An Educated Empath Is A Narcissist & Sociopath's Worst Nightmare
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- An 'Educated Empath' is a narcissist's worst nightmare, because targets are grounded in reality and narcissists are not grounded in reality. Therefore, if the target chooses, it is easy to use the narcissist's and sociopath's weaknesses against them. Narcissists are addicted to supply and very gullible, making them quite easy to counter manipulate. Educated empaths are smarter than sociopaths and narcissists. Empaths are capable of abstract thought and creativity which is why targets are able to come up with very creative ways to counter manipulate abusers.
Counter manipulation is used by targets to STOP the abuser from manipulating them. In my opinion, self-protection is moral, ethical, healthy behavior, and a sign of intelligence.
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Sacha Slone hi can I still be subscribed?
thank you for the reminders Sasha. We are stronger, we are empaths. We don't need manipulation or sarcasm. We are not stuffed shirts or hollow shells. We don't need to stand on principle. We don't need to posture. We don't need to scream and yell and try to threaten and scare people. We are Powerful and the powerful don't struggle.
Don't cower or cringe when a narcissist bullys. It means he's hates himself and he's afraid of you
I was married to a socio narcissist. When I removed him from the home he fell apart.
We are smarter because we are not delusional. We are grounded in reality, and not in the self-fabricated delusions that are the prison bars of the narcissist's reality. We must *always* remember this.
Chet Pomeroy Correct
Have you ever noticed how the narcissist, who is one-dimensional in nature, keeps employing the same tactics over and over, even when they have been proven not to work? You could call them stupid or pathetic, and you might be right, but they are really just boring and predictable. These people don't even make a worthy enemy of the (much smarter and more imaginative) empath. They are destined to lose, which is how it should be.
right on
Finally, kimberly, someone agrees with me. Hint: don't tell them this, because it makes them more dangerous. It's an ego thing, and they've got that in abundance.
Narc,s are a Joke.
Funny that you say that actually, you know, since the rich 1% of the world are basically all psychopaths, sociopaths AND narcissists.
@@dolfyhimmler7487 So le'ts take them down
The reason empaths are superior is merely because we possess emotional intelligence. I would argue that counter psyops against narcopaths is unhealthy because like it or not you are still actively involved in their behaviour. Certainly to avoid entering into any dialogue it is usefull, but trying to maintain any long term relationship this way is equally as exhausting and is at its core manipulative.
I've been in narcopath relationships my entire life and only realised and began studying them in the last 5 years after an extremely destructive one. Again I found myself in another and tried to outsmart her and it ended up being the most destructive of all. Hurting myself and punishing her, finally seeing my life and relationships on a spreadsheet and realising the lowest common denominator is me, and my co dependency issues.
The greatest way to counter attack narcopaths is to understand that co dependents omit subconscious frequencies that open the door for them, it also serves our shame and guilt to not be loved and we blame someone who cannot love us or themselves. If you really want them out of your life you must work from within. Change the frequency you project and you will cease to attract them on interpersonal levels. Narcissists are everywhere, and easy to spot and deal with when they are at the door, it is only when we invite them in are they capable soiling our carpets.
You are on point. Narcs/sociopaths are bolder, not smarter. People seem to mistake boldness with "smarts."
Now that we're on to them, we'd be absolutely remiss not to protect ourselves. To counter negative energy, you send the counter energy - vibrations of love and power. "I don't absorb energies which are around me, I radiate energy to them." This is a quote I recently heard which I thought was very powerful and could be helpful to empaths.
"Counter-manipulate" may evoke a slightly negative connotation, but I think everything you said was brilliant. Excellent video. Thanks!!
As an Empath with a high IQ, dealing with my narc can be easy mostly, sometimes hard, however, vids like this keep me going.
I am happy to know that you have gained value from watching! Thank you for taking the time to comment, I appreciate it! :-)
My sister-in-law is a narcissist and loathes me because she knows I've seen through her from the start. She's cunningly manipulative but it doesn't work with me and I know she finds me 'intimidating'. Now that their marriage is on the rocks, I'm definitely her 'worst nightmare'!
Thank you for taking the time to comment, I appreciate it! :-)
this happen to me a few days ago i was so proud of myself how grounded i was. he was soooo raged! used every little thing ive ever shared to devalue me. the old me would have personalized it and be filled w anxiety i just laughed at how predictable he was
I totally agree. I have never even understood what the word "Narcissist" was until I dated one. I thought I was going crazy and that he was bi-polar because I just couldn't understand how his thought process worked. After 3 bumpy years, being put in jail, kicked out of school and emotionally sucked dry. I remembered what my mom preached about NEVER letting someone beat you down. I was determined not to give him the satisfaction of power over me and decided to take control back! I learned everything about narcissists and what kind he was,. I became one. Well acted anyway. And oh did I relish the fact he was at a loss for words and didnt know how to react! He left me alone and at certain times I felt he feared me. I realize that they are predictable and they do the same thing over and over. I just play dumb so I can observe what he does because if I let on he changes things. I've learned to always act like I do not know anything and they feel they are so smart that they will never be caught. You have to be able to understand and think like them. They hate being around someone like them. I wished I knew this years ago! I now look back on the guys I dated and my eyes are so open when I never saw before what I see now. It is a tool that helps me spot men like that when dating and learning when I can run and not get tangled in the drama again. Thanks so much for the insight!
Thank you for this knowledge.... I used to hate myself for being an empath after I encountered a narc but your vids brought me realization that at some point we are capable of challenging them and shattering their perception of their imaginary grandiose
There's a cult of ''turn the other cheek'' (ignore the abuser's abuse) - instead of analyze and address - when it comes to human behavior in general. IF you look, you'll find that control is at the core of nearly every societal strata - instead of understanding the concepts of individual morality/rights/responsibilities and their outcomes in group dynamics .
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I can't thank you enough Sacha, you are doing an incredible service.
I couldn't agree more. I got one of my narcs to leave me the hell alone (mostly) because I knew his soft spot is/was his fragile ego. I poked at that ego in ways I knew would piss him off, and he huffed off like a little child and I haven't had to see his pathetic face since. He thinks he's punishing me by staying out of our lives, but of course in reality it hasn't been this pleasant in a long time since he now refuses to be anywhere that he thinks I might show up (naturally, I do the same)....so No Contact is reinforced (at least for him, not for his wretched wife, yet) on both sides.
Me From Maine llh
Medical alert narc alert...
"Never argue with stupid people , they will drag you down to their level and beat you with expireance."
-Mark Twain-
+Abuser abuser
Wonderful quote! Arguing/negotiating with a narcissist is an absolute waste of time, because there is no such thing as conflict resolution with a toxic person. All interactions with sociopaths and narcissists should be about the target using their creativity and intellect to get the toxic person to voluntarily disengage. Over time targets will become so adept at repelling narcissists and sociopaths, that the target will not need to exert any effort to keep them away!:-)
Sacha Slone
I agree , I would try to sidestep the conflict as much as I could , but when a narc is determined to get their supply , there's no stopping them , they'll make up the stupidest reasons to abuse their victim.
As I got older , bigger and smarter , the physical abuse started to diminish , then the psychological abuse would ramp up , they always had their tag team smear campaign as their default weapon , buttressing each others lies about me , making them true.
Sometimes I would check mate one or the other of my two narcs , boy did that piss them off.
I'm an artist at heart , I would withdraw into my art , it was my port in the shit storm I grew up in.
In retrospect , my art saved me from losing my mind.
They are good at manipulation because they practice more. That doesn't mean they're smarter, but it does mean they're worth taking serious. What I've found in my limited experience is that they seemed to be so used to operating under the radar, that when you become wise to them, they can't seem to figure it out, even when you hint to them that you know what's up.
Nothing is more attractive about a woman than intellect.. I hope I can find a woman with high IQ like this some day.
Sure
I would just like to say we are absolutely smarter but not smart enough. I detest the fact that most all of us are caught in a continuous cycle of wanting validation that proves we are not crazy. I have yet to meet a survivor whose wounds are completely healed. but I am grateful for the validation you offer from videos such as these.
This is one of the most insightful comments I've read. I agree and that's why I make these videos ... I want to encourage and empower targets to 'get smarter!' :-D // I also want to send three very direct messages to abusers: 1.) The gig is up 2.) Educated empaths are on the rise 3.) Educated empaths strike back [with jedi mind tricks :-p] :-D
It's not about being "smart enough", it's about being healed enough from past trauma. Once you are, these assholes don't even enter your territory... or they attempt it but it just doesn't work out.
Gosh, you are soooo right !!!!
Exactly this is , what keeps me " alive".... knowing, I am the more intelligent one and that I can feeeeeel .And this drives him nuts....to the point of even getting violent , or saying something, he knows that'll hurt me for decades and will remain in my brain and heart forever. Like :" I don't have the skills like you have , but I had a Mother , that loved and took care of me" ....knowing, I suffer from my mother's abuse until today. He said that in public in infront of our 12 year old son and then just left us standing there in the middle of Bankoks huge airport, before he threw our passports and check-in papers at both of us. I stood there, absolutely in shock, not even able, to reply....in anyway , until my son took my hand. Flying back to Germany was horrible....sitting next to this aswho......I still and will forever hate him for that even though I know , forgiving is the way to heal. 18 years of grieving broke me. But since last year I AM COMING BACK ...in tiny little steps. And he hates it. Saying, he "wants his wife back".....lol...I told him , she's gone and won't come back !!!
next time he wants you back see if you can get him to start sending you money
Daniela Kempf Power to you, miss! Stay strong, and raise your kid exactly how a human being should be, unlike your ex-husband! Be the mother you never did have, I send you and your child lots of love and support ❤️
I agree with all that you are saying in this vid. An empath has intuition as an additional form of intelligence which, in my opinion, a psychopath would lack. imtuition is a powerful tool and it's important that an empath listen to their intuition because it will help keep them safe. That's my opinion, anyway. :)
Thank you for taking the time to comment, I appreciate it! :-)
absolutely I am not feeling guilty for the position I am now in because he discarded me, he doesn't understand my ability to carry on he thought it was something that he could stamp out of me throw me aside and stride off he doesn't understand he took his disorder with him....Thankyou for your uploads.
"He took his disorder with him". That's like a rush of pure oxygen ! Great comment !!!
+Brad McEwen glad to help out....it's like here take your dirty washing with you... LOL just thought I'd add that for good measure. If I could go back about two years with the knowledge I have now hmmmm I would have some serious fun ....it's Sacha, s upload it's got me wishing I could do him some serious damage ! LOL
I couldn't agree more about a do over. But at the time it was not our natural instinct to be argumentative & confrontational. So that's to our credit trying to be kind empathic human beings. My narc was a professional negotiator. Yet her narcaholic behavior was stereotypical. She has a BS degree in chemical engineering yet sells real estate. Never got a clear answer on that but it doesn't matter. Would probably just be another lie anyway. While we move on to or back to normalacy we must continue to learn. I believe thats a common sentiment among targets. Goal is never to be narc'd again. Thanks to Sacha my standards and awareness are through the roof now. Its how I get my "Healing Vibe" : ) ! xo
Brad McEwen it's tiring just thinking about all the ex bull....... micro agitations. ..gaslighting, outbursts etc etc etc . I love peace
HE TOOK HIS DISORDER WITH HIM! Best thing I've heard in a long time. Simple, concise, true! BRAVO!
a Narcissists would rather self destruct than admit they are wrong.
+Bill Weiss
Ain't that the truth!
+Bill Weiss Sometimes, it depends on the situation. I got some narc to admit while they cry then get very angry. Of course I hide after to not to get killed though.
I agree!!!! We must NOT SHUT UP and let them walk over us!!!!
Thank You for watching!
yes I have been with a narcissist for 41 years and before that a mother who was straight out of hell. for the bulk of my life I could not figure out what was going on because therapists rarely would even validate emotional abuse until Patrica Evans and Alice Walker shown light on the subject. yes we must be smarter and wiser. we must validate each other and be a strong support system as we build a solid foundation that will not waiver no matter how the storm rages.
Narcissistic mothers prime us for abuse, which is why so many targets end up with an abusive partner. :-(
They think they are the first to do all these terrible things ! And they think we don't understand evil because we are so easygoing and never call them out. When in fact we understand evil quite well and that's why we hate it and will not be it!
You are so right. I have BPD and I can wreck every single narc I've ever met😂
It's like taking giving someone a gift and then taking it and breaking it at a later point in time.
We are smarter than them. That is what totally pisses them off.Ha. Ha. It is really funny once that information finally gets lit up in your brain!Then, no body, and I mean no body, ever gets the best of us...not for long anyway.Great information! Makes me feel so good and confident again.
+Johannah Patterson
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I agree, I am now realizing how truly stupid they are!
Anyone that feels the need to be deceptive, manipulative and tell lies are obviously cowards and lack intelligence. When confronted with the truth and their lies exposed they just can't handle it and the best they can do is to deny it constantly. Often see them so frustrated and getting worked up and they try to come up with more lies as an excuse to cover up their exposed lies. Very pathetic, these children never grow up and are losers.
I am a sociopath. Due to trama probably..I'm actually friends with a empath that knows I am one. She thinks more of me tho. She think I have PTSD. But I told her I'm a sociopath. I know I am. I can hurt anyone really without regret. But I try to be a good person or at least blend in. Everyday I have thoughts of killing people or walking over and smashing someone with a bat. But do I? No...I was created like this. Wen I was a kid I use to love things now I don't at all. I can't stay in one relationship. I try to have control cuz I'm afraid of abandonment. I try to contain my sociopath side. I love animals...but sometimes my sociopath side gets the best of me. We do feel emotions just in different ways. I don't feel guilty wen I hurt people but I only hurt people who mess with me. Simple as that.
Her knowing doesn't scare me cuz It keeps me in line and it's a relief.
She's a educated empath to. But now she's starting to see what I am. But she seems to still like me
SO good to hear this-- gullible is the word-- I have never listened to someone who is SO educated behave so unknowing and childlike... ?? and then accuse me of being uneducated... DO Narcissists really have no idea how shallow they are??
Nope, they don't..
sociopaths have an unconscious attachment to old feelings of being marginalized and rejected. Their narcisistic and manipulative behavior is a psychological defense used to hide their unconscious entaglement with these negative emotions of unworthiness. Of course the victims of sociopaths also gravitate unconsciously towards emotions of helplessness and powerlessness. So basically the sociopath and his victim have the same unconscious unresolved issue.
No, they are assholes who feed off of those who still have their love and trust to offer. It's a conscious choice. It's a clinical thing to defend the perpetrator.
Jeffrey--> Actually the victim unconsciously endorses and invites the perpetrator to harass him. Both the narcisist and his victim share the same dysfunction. Once the victim fixes his own attachment to the feeling of being manipulated and disrespected, he automatically gets rid of any narcisist anywhere.
Jeffrey---> if you go deep into this issue you will notice that our unconscious mind entertains a strong attachment to those old negative experiences. The inconscious mind is quite irrrational. We constantly replay those old emotions through the situations of eveyrday life. Once we become aware of this inner dynamic we can get rid of this old painful game. I suggest you to read the articles of this website: www.whywesuffer.com/basic-principle/
I prefer The Bible.
the one does not exclude the other ;-)
I like these straight to the point videos. Always a little bit of fresh air. Thanks Sasha.
+reallife828
you are very welcome! :-)
It's like blocking a punch to the face only to be accused of attacking the narc's "innocent" wayward fist.
MORE TRUTH, girl! I became enlightened while in the throes of this, my LAST, relationship of any depth whatsoever I will EVER have with a Narc. In the end, counter manip wasn't required, though I had some ideas. I simply started being VERY honest, VERY firm, and responding to her loud and ludicrous insults VERY quietly. When I called her out, she told me "YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING. You don't live in reality!" The more frank and honest I became, the more real questions I asked, the more she accused me of being crazy, dishonest, and manipulative. Very many of my responses were simply, "L*, I really don't think that's the problem here."
In the end, she outed herself left and right, spewing hatred one second, saying she was confused and hurt the next, contorting into a raging demon the next, saying I must be in love with her..... then saying it seemed like I wanted to end the friendship...then saying I was creepy, then switching and saying, "Oh sure you're a great friend....in SOME WAYS."
Until the VERY end of a weeks long crap fest that was the discard, I kept coming back to "Ok. Well, what made you feel that way? Can you help me understand?" This would make her SO ANGRY. "You're patronizing me! You KNOW what you've done!" (she would rant). My response would be along the lines of: "Look, I'm sorry but I really don't. I want to work it out I care about you. Please please tell me. HOW did I break your trust? WHAT hurt you? What did I do that made you think that? How can I fix it?"
Oh she got so mad, but I felt okay about it even though I had moments of doubt because I felt in my heart that this person NEEDS to see what it feels like to be loved unconditionally. Obviously, no one in her life has ever done that for her. Even if it makes my heart explode, I will be the one to show her that. Because THAT IS WHAT I REALLY AM....her behavior cannot turn ME into what SHE is. That is the power I have.
I know she will never respond, but I even reached out to her after she finally stopped speaking to me at all, after a fiery shit tornado of hatred and me finally standing up for myself. which of course drove her insane, and then ran her off for good. But I told her I wanted to make very certain there was no more confusion, and that I understood how she may have misunderstood some things BUT I care about her and am forever open to making peace. It won't happen. BUT I have behaved with integrity for the most part. I wasn't perfect....I fell apart a couple times, gave in to those intense feelings those Narcs do love to provoke. But I stayed true to myself and tried to treat her with respect though she barely deserved it.
A part of my heart can't help but feel sad for a human being who cannot love without ulterior motives, nor comprehend how someone ELSE could love HER without ulterior motives. I left her with full and clear understanding that is exactly how I felt for her.
I always feel that much closer to healing & regaining my true & authentic self that includes my sense of humor... feeling lighter each time I watch your vids, Sacha
thank you!
I agree! Humor is a huge indication that I am moving forward! ///
+Sacha Slone it's impairative to healing :) laughter is the best medicine after all.
Yes! You're the only one I've found so far who is talking clearly about counter manipulation. This is exactly what I have been doing and looking for other ways to combat these things. Much love.
oh girl, you rocked it! i needed to hear this td although I....I have heart strangers know it but my own family DONT! I get it ! manipulation is the NAME of the narcissistic GAME! BE proud U HAVE HEART!
Sacha....in the end I discarded HIM!! That was my way of counter manipulation. Gave me great pleasure! :)
+Johannah Patterson hell yeah! Totally agree. :)
This is what my ex-narc despised about me. I didn't realise he was a narcissist at the time and it was hell. Now, when I supervise visitation with my daughter I will not tolerate his mind games and when he tried putting me down last week, I cancelled the visit immediately. Now I have to figure out where to go from here. I will not allow him unsupervised access due to previous behaviour, but if I continue the visits, I have to find the best way to let him know I have the upper hand.
Thanks so much for these videos Sacha. This knowledge is so important and even life saving.
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yes !!!! I've acquired so much more intelligence since my introduction to Narcissism thanks to video's like this one and others. Woot Woot !!! Historically I first was introduced by a couple friends who knew the Narcissist I was involved with at the time. 2004 was the year, one I'll never forget. These friends suggested I start reading about Narcissism and lead me to rethinking about people I've known and so many lights came on !!! Yes , it was a reality check for me and since then. I thought I had all that was needed to avoid Narcissists but I was wrong, I had one more lesson to learn and that was the reality that there are Covert Narcissist waiting and looking for people like me ...Yep, that was after the fact and a bigger impacting lesson than the first experience... but one that I needed in order to wake up and well the lesson learned is that there's no such thing as too much intelligence .... thanks Sacha, your so grateful and kind to share your hard earned knowledge and experience... keep up the good work, we all appreciate all that you do !! Experience isn't always a permanent loss because we get stronger and wiser as we learn... Narcissist loose when there's intelligence in the picture YES!
+GGator Country
Aww, thank you, that was very sweet of you to say. //// Part me of gets really sad that 'we' the targets have had to 'get smart' and learn how to communicate with evil people. ugh.
*Thank you for sharing, I really appreciate hearing from my peers*. :-)
WOW I was just thinking about this when I was going to take a shower. Iwas asking myself why I do feel so guilty sometimes when I meet narcs and be able to use or manipulate them in order to get them out of my way. But then I asked myself, why I must feel guilty if I am not doing it to someone who doesn't deserve it or didn't do anything to deserve it? If this is to save yourself or keep your sanity it is best to do what ever needed and wish you don't have to do worst things... I think this guilt trip was injected into us from since childhood so we wont be able to say or do what we have to do to defend ourselves, always feeling shame and "bad" for standing in our own groud with power and confidence.
+Maestra Ana
Only abusers want targets to remain submissive. *Self-care, self-knowledge, and self-protection are all signs of mental health, intelligence, and in my opinion these are virtues!* :-)
Sacha Slone
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+Maestra Ana LOL this stuff is on our minds everywhere we go, huh? I think about it in the shower, driving to work, walking on a break, eating lunch ...I love it. Countermanipulation strategies. Love it. Keep it coming please... We all need to brainstorm.
Eliza Raffles
Kind of sad though... but that is how most people end up in this world to survive... otherwise... yes, lets keep helping each other
Thankyou Sacha, your video's have helped me immensely, I love your smile and your sense of humour, and that you talk slowly and clearly. You have opened up a new world for me, and now I know what to do with the narcissists in my life. I can't believe how many there are in society. xxxx Lotsa love
I thank God I found your channel, I'm a borderliner and my life has gotten so bad since I'm married, but now I'm realising I married a narcissist and my father in law is one too,and my father in law is even worse then my husband..I intuitively countered my father in law when I was stonger the first years, but over time he got control over our lives (due to financial involvement) now I'm doing everything I can to get him out..I hope this channel is going to help because I don't want my little empathic daughter being messed up by his involvement..
if you have bpd I hope you're also growing, healing and learning about yourself, since some of us unwittingly hurt the people around us
Why does it sound like she is talking to an audience of 3 year olds?
faceless127 ye its annoying and looks like a singer in a video, the way she moves her mouth 😄
I like her information, but I have to agree. The way she talks is very strange--it feels like I'm listening to a female version of Captain James T. Kirk talk about narcissists... If... you...run...into...a... narcissist... you should... protect...yourself....
i care more about the message than worry about the delivery of it.
I have auditory problems preventing me from being able to listen because of the way she speaks. Could you transcribe it for me, please? Respect
This video has (cc) but you have to mouse over the lower bar to see it.....click on the cc and voila you will have a printed transcription on the screen. Most videos have this set up, although sometimes that option was neglected by the poster of the vid. I hope you can enjoy you tube with this enhancement.
oh I love you Lady! Yes!! I have had to do this with a narc in my life (several actually) and the guilt has made me ill, however, after seeing this I'm gonna think again about why I am actually feeling guilty in the first place
Don't ever feel guilt over engaging in self-protection!
A very short but absolutely powerful video, thanks! Subscribed.
I'm happy you liked it. Thank you for subscribing.
Spot on again. After researching and listening to countless videos for months, I am now stronger and during another rage episode last night (4 hours of no electricity with a N ) was truly able to observe and not absorb. Honestly it was a struggle but I know see the situation so much clearer. I'm ready to make my move and leave. Always had guilt before not anymore my sanity and safety is my priority not his "feelings "
+Leah Reeder
*.. observe and not absorb.* One of my favorite Ross R. quotes!! :-)
If you look closely at long-term narcissistic couples: both partners use manipulations all the time.
A "leading narc" manipulates a co-dependant (an inverted narc).
But an inverted narc counter-manipulates the leading one all the time.
Unfortunately it is called "marriage wisdom". And people are encouraged to "be wise".
The point is empaths refuse to counter-manipulate as it feels ghastly on inside.
One must be narcissistic to the core to live in counter-manipulation.
The best way to drive any sort of narcissist away is to be sincere. And sincerety includes honesty.
Neither leading or inverted narcissists can stand a life of honesty. They prefer the life of ambiguity. No empath would choose this way of life as it is sickening.
Yes! My EX-Narc said, "You're too smart!" Stay ahead of them because some NEVER go away :-(
Thank you for taking the time to comment, I appreciate it! :-)
I really enjoy your videos! Thank you for the validation!
you are awesome girl! spot on! thank you 💚
+Intuitive Bets
Thank you!:-)
Another great video Sachs ! Thanks. 💜💜💜
According to Myers Briggs one of my strong traits in my personality type is an empath. And a hate narcs. Had some really bad experiences with two narcs in my life, that is their evil games. Great video thank you for letting me know these things.
Intelligence/education IS an advantage!
EcceSignumRex nope
Notice how psychopaths aren't included in this,
Psychopaths:1
Empaths:0
A trait of a psychopath is calculated manipulation and naturally higher intellect
That ''tis me. He hates how smart and educated I am. He said that my education was from the internet.hahaha years of college and other courses and careers. I can use the internet for many things with an educated eye to enhance or debunk info according to the source and how it's written. BOY THEY REALLY ARE SIMPLETONS BRAGGING THAT THE ARE GENIUSES. HE SAID HE HAD A HIGH IQ
however, I said I do too, but that test is outdated and there are all different kinds of intelligence that are counted today. I asked have you read the book emotional intelligence ? It came out at least 15 years ago. He looked blank couldnt wrap his head around what I said OF COURSE. By the way I'm using your videos to strengthen my no contact and feel stronger and turned off my the sick fucker. I'm a RN that has been in device sales and many other similiar jobs
Theresa Brewer ya, but the absurd amount of videos this woman is posting about narcissism / sociopathism leaves concern she might be suffering from an underlying case of schizophrenia. The amount of videos and obvious passion for calling out sociopaths and narcissist is a clear indicator she will easily see false narcissistic and sociopathic behavior in ANYONE she meets. Listen to her videos but in small doses to avoid being to judgemental on people. My mom is a RN herself and when I showed her this woman's lengthy and excessive amount of videos leaves her with concern as well
Appears to me, Trilicit thatyou are a narcissist! Did your boyfriend watch Sacha's video n dump you?????
One finger pointing forward, three pointing back!
Sounds like some OCD as well
Theresa Brewer oh my God, this shit narc would use big words, but his sentences would make NO sense. I thought I was the dumb one because they made NO sense. Then he would pull the "people think I'm pretentious, but I'm misunderstood" card. No, buddy boy, you're pretentious as fuck. AND he would act like I was a child and he was the adult as if he needed to educate me on life. And don't get me started on his mansplaining
Trilicit the fact that you needed someone to back up your claims that she is schizophrenic is rubbish your mom is a registered nurse in what psychiatry or psychology. Sorry no such thing the fact you are diagnosing someone over UA-cam you have a problem I watched a few of her videos and they are spot on. Jealous much?
Trilicit Stylus I’m an Empath, who because of people like Sacha making many brilliant videos, have learned to see right through Narcissists like you.
Plain as day and soo obviously toxic you are. I work with nurses and no nurse would diagnose someone on the amount of videos they make, your thinking, lying and story telling are coming from an insane place and that’s your mind, the only insane thing around here is YOU!
Yup. You're right. My boyfriend dumped me. And he's a sociopath. He tried to play mind games with me and tried to bait me so many times and it didn't work. He tried to manipulate and bait me into an argument with him. Tried playing the victim. Didn't work. I smile and keep it moving. I speak proudly I have self love and that nobody can break that. I been through shit. And I mean horrible things. But I am not broken. No way.
Thank you for taking the time to comment, I appreciate it! :-)
Merry Christmas sasha! I just used your video to KEEP STRONG. Thanx for doing these videos! your super 💪..
I'm happy you gained value from watching.
I don't feel guilty about it. I call them on their ship asap
I know this video is old, but I had to make a remark in case you're still monitoring, You have really nailed it. I was diagnosed as an empath three years ago after long counseling. I find sociopaths to be blowhards, stuffed shirts, empty shells . I divorced one after many years. I learned exactly how to handle all of that pathology.
I know several narcissists and they are basically cowards. Which accounts for all the bullying and posturing. What a shame
Amen! I like this idea. Sascha! We are strong.
Sacha Slone: It is not about thinking it is wrong, but feeling guilty even by thinking about it. It becomes a philosophical and ethical question. "You should give your other cheek", let's say. That is the main issue, no been unaware of the manipulation but not even trying to fight it for moral reasons.
OMG, that is SO TRUE how a narc is GULLIBLE! They don't really consider the notion that you see their flaws and are secretly on to them. Also, this is sort of related to being gullible but I used to find that so perplexing that she could be so fake with someone (actually she was just using a different mask) but then seem to be truly buying into the fake personality, fully embodying it. For example, she would be on the phone with someone who's butt she was kissing and she would be icky sweet that we would be rolling our eyes and you half expected her to hang up the phone and then make a snide comment about the person as a follow up but she never did because her icky sweetness was adopted as her real mask in that dynamic with that person. It was so weird. I think that is actually a good way to tell a narc from a normal person, when they seem to believe their fake personality but it is real to them (with that person - they have different masks with different people). It's so bizarre and hard to explain but when you see it you will know what I mean. THAT is a narc!
I've been living the nightmare for over 20 years, now that I am becoming educated it's time I start dreaming, he can take his nightmares back to where he makes them.
My experience with a narc was strictly online, we did talk on the phone a couple times, the first time I talked to him it wasn't at all what I had expected. He was not interesting or exciting to talk to at all, it was difficult to even have a conversation, I was leading the conversation the whole time. Kind of makes me feel good looking back and knowing what I know now about him!
I've seen very intelligent (nearly genius level) narcissists, and incredibly dim empaths.
Empaths so dumb in fact, that even when describing how they were being manipulated precisely they denied it by claiming that "that kind of stuff only happens in Disney movies" and that there are no real "bad guys".
I think this is generally true, but not always.
+Mikaila Van Otten
Yes, I agree, there is an endless spectrum of variables and constants that contribute to the creation of an endless variety of results when measuring someone's intellect. // *I personally think that if the Narcissist is not grounded in reality, is delusional, and is bordering on psychosis, and the Empath is grounded in reality, then in my opinion, the empath is automatically intellectually superior* . /// I suppose it depends on how you choose to measure intellect: reality vs delusions
I just started watching you today.. I am one of those that thought that counter manipulation is no better then the narc doing it.. Thank you for this video!!!
You are very welcome! Thank you for your comment :-)
Love you so much for this encouraging video, absolutely agree, could feel speaking out every single word with you
I am happy you liked it. Thank you for your comment!
Thank you Sacha SO MUCH! You are bad ass amazing and fun to watch. Many of the videos I've been watching about healing from narcissistic abuse have been helpful but also heavy. Your videos are not only helpful and uplifting but they make me laugh my ass off! THANK YOU!
you got guts to deliver the message like you do!! but so real, I started taking control of my life once a former victim of a narc educated me!! life changing!! keep it up!!
Thank You for watching!
Being grounded in reality also helped me, and eventually I came to the point where I just didn't accept the lying game of the narc anymore. Sometimes I just shrugged her statements off with a reluctant "uh-huh", which gives me the possibility to still say afterwards that I didn't agree ("sorry, didn't hear you what you were saying"), at other times I just corrected her "No, that's not correct", which is especially advisable when there is proof of my version of the truth, sometimes I just seemed to agree with a surprised "That's unbelievable!", letting her know I didn't really buy it.
Let them hear what they want to hear (they accept half-agreement very easily), and if you're in the mood you can let them know what you really believe, but in your mind always stick to your truth and never let yourself get dragged down to their emotional arguments. Just give them a "Oh, you're wrong on this one" and walk away, ignore the sure to follow rage and give them a little feeling that they don't exist for you.
P.S: Disagreement works best in public places - when there are people around, you can have fun watching the narc struggle to keep their cool, while you are perfectly relaxed. Don't do it too often though, save it for the big points. Mine sometimes even made concessions, so that I'd drop the topic - kind of using narc's own tactics against them. Of course she later on wouldn't remember she agreed, but just stay calm and insist. It freaks them out :-)
+Free Your Mind
"...and if you're in the mood you can...." I love this quote of yours, because how I respond/don't respond to toxic people often has to do with how much or how little mental energy I have to exert in that moment! I can really relate to what you are saying. ❤Thank you for taking the time to share.❤
+Sacha Slone
That's very true! With their lying and being emotional and being personal, they try to unsettle you, which you just mustn't allow. Shrug it off, ignore it, give half- to none-agreements "oh, well...", "didn't expect that" "is that so", "wow", just don't let them take the battle to your head. It's you who's to decide which fight to pick, not them. And if you pick one, stay true to yourself, be decided and firm and friendly, maybe a little condescending, parenting and solicitous, and watch them go nuts. Walk away when you've had enough. At first it's hard to not let them in, but once you see them not as sincere people, but as the evil attention-draining lost souls they are, it's absolutely possible and can be even fun.
Besides, it's absolutely easy to upset a narc, as they are masters in upsetting people, all and foremost themselves. Just by being yourself you will drive them crazy. They are raging toddlers, and you don't argue with toddlers either. You beat them by not getting drawn into the emotional fight, just calmly telling them what's true. "Nevertheless you owe me money/that I have a good reputation/won't buy you an ice cream now". Watch them explode.
Texted my ex narc today for her to finally fetch her stuff she still has in my garage, she tried to lure me in an argument by insulting me etc, I stayed a friendly brick wall conveying my points and she went just the more abusive with her deranged accusations. To me it wasn't insulting, but it was sad, but also amusing and also uplifting, because it's her who has the grudge, not me.
Love your channel by the way! I really like your attitude to take it easy, to see it as a game somehow, and they are not even real opponents, because once you got the hang of it, they're astonishingly predictable. Never take them serious, stick to yourself and your own thoughts, disconnect and let them do the harm to themselves. Have a nice sunny evening, your channel is great for healing! :-)
How could someone feel bad about firing back on some piece of garbage?
Brilliant and beautiful video full of profound insight.Thank you Sacha.You are Amazing!
yes yes..I learned this awhile ago from having a boyfriend that was a total narc and I didnt know that they actually want us to defile ourselves but in retrospect I see it all now that it was actually that which he was trying to do..so, I stopped giving a shit and just gave it back to him as he handed me his crap...TURN ABOUT IS FAIR PLAY remember that saying ? I think it applies to us...absolutely do not feel bad for manipulating the little asshole. thank you for the vid :D stay strong
You see this myth perpetuated in shows like "Sherlock" too.
God you remind me of my second grade teacher. She was Very Live as you are and explained at an emotional level. She didnt want me to repeat the 2nd grade a 3 times.
Love the way you deliver.
Dgui
Than you for helping. I wasted my time with unnecessary guilt.
Your spot on and I firmly believe that you and others who do similar work are changing the world for the better in very tangible ways bravo!
needed that.been doing a little of that intuitively. Thank you.
thankyou for clearing up that common misconception about narcissist being 'smart' - just because someone is manipulative does not make them smart. I would say most narcissist are pretty stupid on the whole
the thing about counter manipulation is that it is essentially playing the narcissist's little games. I think No contact and ignoring is the best strategy
Thanks to you and all the other great people that teach us we are WAY smarter .....Thank You
As an educated empath, doing what I do best for over 26 years now, I can only say that my life has been crushed and destroyed. I took everybody's side but mine..waste of a life. Walk away people, even the ones you help end up not being grateful..
"even the ones you help end up not being grateful.." ...... I'll add, not only are they not grateful but they actually laugh at us for falling for their con and being 'stupid.' vomit.
"But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth; I humbled my soul with fasting, And my prayer kept returning to my bosom. I went about as though it were my friend or brother; I bowed down mourning, as one who sorrows for a mother. But at my stumbling they rejoiced and gathered themselves together; The smiters whom I did not know gathered together against me, They slandered me without ceasing.…" Psalm 35:12-15 Sounds very familiar, doesn't it?
"Educated" target is the key word.
It's not that Narcissists are smarter, it's just that they, like a magician, have the advantage of knowing that they're trying to trick us. Even when we know it's a magic show, we still don't know how the tricks are done. Another advantage that a Narcissist has is that an empath's guard is usually down. They usually presume that most people are well intended. I lived most of my life without knowing these monsters even existed. Last, Narcissists have the advantage of more practice manipulating people. They are better, because they do it more. What they're NOT used to is people getting wise to them. Thanks to the internet, us empaths can now communicate and compare notes. Knowledge is power.
"an empath's guard is usually down" // This has been and *still* is a huge problem for me! // I don't think I'm capable of having my guard up 24/7 and that *is* a huge problem when one's colleagues are toxic. Instead of having my guard up 24/7, I now try to think through ways to safeguard myself, as much as possible, in advance. // Having a toolbox of counter manipulation strategies has helped, because now I know that when/if someone tries to start something I can shut it down. :-D
Could you please give an example of counter manipulation?
I have a playlist with a lot of different types of counter manipulation tactics:-) My favorite is using Body Language, that was my very first YT video. :-D
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I used counter manipulation, and it cost me my job of 17 years. The narc, made severe accusations and got rid of me so he wouldn't have to be held accountable for his very dysfunctional behaviors. Of course, he convinced everyone that I was the problem...it was a very interesting experience for me. I could've reacted, but I didn't. I felt a huge relief to be released from the toxic connection and environment.
I am sorry that happened to you.
You're so animated...
I like the way you drive : )
Thank you Robb, I appreciate that :-)
I think the narc seems smarter than us because they are so good at manipulating us. Normal people don't spend every moment of their lives honing that skill so naturally we can't win against the narc in that game so they are always one step ahead of us...until, as you said, we get educated. Then I agree we have the advantage.
Fantastic! One more for the collection. COngratulations, Sacha! ANd thank you. s2
you are adorable. you have highly educated me about what the people in my life really are and who I really am. I was raised by a narcissistic parent. it was incredibly confusing and painful later on. my other parent was also a victim. you have defined much for me. thank you!
You're the "Mother Load of powerful knowledge"
+Sheila Schneider
Thank you for the lovely compliment! :-)
Absolutly love your channel and insights,thank you!
great help,keep reading and becoming educated Ther are a lot of really great books out there .Always go with your Gut over anything or anyone else.
Hi Sacha, you are a great teacher. thank you for your work, you are so clear, great help.
lots of love
You are welcome! Thank you for the positive feedback. :-)
I don't know how you came to the conclusion narcissist targets aka supply are grounded in reality. If targets were grounded in reality, the narcissist attacks would have no effect. The entire effect of the sociopath/target relationship is to remove the target from reality, so the sociopath can control them.
subg88 empaths are naturally grounded in reality this is why they feel all the emotions that are going on around them. the narcs purpose is to remove the empaths from reality, and they usually successful because the empaths is unaware of whats happening.. that why she said in the video "An educated empath" .. ones you study them good (and yourself) they cant affect you in any way (they can still affect your emotions because this is a big part of the empath, but if youre well educated you can learn how to turn off your emotions and empathy around these people.. just think about all the bad stuff they probably did to people and how many lifes they have destroyed. i believe this thinking automatically will turn off your empathy and emotions for them)
Subscribed . I cant describe it but your amazing . Very masterful what you do !
Thank You :-)
Thank you for helping me again and again and again.
I keep coming back to listen and understand
Thank you
Thank You for watching!
I don't feel guilty so much as regretful if I send them running, because I wanted them to stay in the game and keep pace with me
+QuartuvLarry
lol :-D
Thank you for this video.
Those counter manipulation tactics are great! The covert Narcissist I know isn't the grandiose big word type. She like coming off as a holier than thou know it all. One thing I noticed about her though, she hated it when I focused on my phone. She used to call it my girlfriend. I never thought of it as triangulation, but in a way, it actually is! Good thinking!
Thanks! The goal of CM is not about being a jerk, it is about self-protection. It is a way to covertly get an emotional abuser to quickly and peaceably voluntarily disengage, without knowing they have been counter manipulated into disengaging. lol! :-D
In other words, be so annoying that the emotional abuser decides 'you' aren't worth the effort! :-D
I wish I knew how to stop my narc- he's my chour director and he's horrible to me. He doesn't want me in the choir even though I'm strong vocally. My pastor told me I should sing in the choir but the director still won't listen and has even lied about my pastor.
I would leave the choir ; bad for you and your mental health.
I am documenting his behavior currently. I feel that leaving would let him win and I won't allow that.
your welcome, thanks for your input,it took me a while to work it out,now when she starts trouble,i refer to,,fun with your narcissist,, she,s totally predictable,you have helped me gain an even better understanding of my own situation,even if im a bit down,ill make sure im positive around her
This is true, I found myself frequently reframing my own thoughts before presenting them to my narcissist partner during the idealisation phase I was sensitive with my words despite a lack of evidence. It ended in no contact my end. Later he returned claiming amnesia this is a lie, i filled in the his blank with a lot of misinformation which as he can't remember he cannot dispute either.
Thank You :-)