A Few Things To Check Before Calling For Your First House Framing Inspection - Helping New Builders
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- www.homebuildingandrepairs.com Visit our website today to learn more about your next home building, design and repair projects. Here's a helpful check list of things new home builders need to double check before calling in for your first house framing inspection. Like double check all framing hardware, window and door installations, plumbing, electrical and heating duct holes and notches cut through any structural framing components. Another thing, be as respectful to the inspector as they are to you.
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I’m a building inspector and this was good information for contractors. Also I agree whole heartedly that keeping it clean on day of inspection makes a difference.
@Guns N' Glory Unfortunately in corrupt wayne county,in my neck of the woods, inspectors are paid off. It's absolutely sickening what they get away with.
@@censoreditali-american6487 that's everywhere realtors know who to call when the first inspection fails for what ever reason, and full disclosure agreements only help when your ready to slap someone with the law doesn't make your home safer people lie and cheat we can only do our best and choose who we do business with. That's also true with fire inspections and so on.
It’s a big deal when it comes to cleaning
@@gordo5238 no kidding especially when you see what the big builders and their contractors get away with.
GC for 10 years, inspectors absolutely like job sites tidy. It shows you respect the Owner, have pride in your work, and allows the inspector to see anything at a glance.
as an inspector, i never got mad about anything. it's very unprofessional. whether the inspector & the contractor like each other is meaningless. the purpose of inspections is to have a safe building constructed to code.
Good point, but I can tell you from experience, it was better to have a good, than bad relations with an inspector. The unprofessional or kick back junkies, always wasted my time and money.
First time I called for an framing inspection, it came with the electrical inspection. Didn't know but in my small town, this is how it's done. Learned a lesson
I personally have had many of these issues over the years and your advice is spot on! Always better to be proactive than reactive! Another solid video sir. Thank you!
Thank you Greg. Please make more videos like these which help young builders like myself. Thanks!
Wish I had your channel years ago when I started framing. Great and informative video. Greatly appreciated as always.
I was a first-time home builder with no prior experience when I fulfilled my dream of designing and building my own McMansion. The only thing I missed on the framing inspection was fire-caulk around the plumbing, I was pretty happy with that. I found the overall process pretty easy.
Thanks for sharing!
In my years of commercial and residential construction, the only time fire caulking /sealing//stopping was required in a residential application was between dwelling units , I.e. between apartments with different occupants and between an attached garage and the habitable rooms of a residential unit.
@@dominicm2175 Probably draft stop around vents between floor level. A lot of people use the terms interchangeably.
@@dominicm2175 I have never been tagged with the fireproof caulk on garage penetrations, but a fellow builder has. His inspector couldn't stay in his lane, however, and offered lots of advice under the guise of code violations. He actually disapproved of the house number placement because he opined that the landscape shrubs would obstruct them in 5-10 years!
Getting back to penetrations, most subs will cut a 2" hole for a 1" pipe, so I use hot mud to seal up the gross holes in drywall before the inspector arrives. Canned spray foam has passed on oversize holes in framing on my projects for the last dozen years.
Very well done and should be helpful for builders before they fall for an inspection.
YES SIR..THANKYOU..GOOD VIDEO
I am an engineer in aerospace, love your content! It has been very helpful for me.
are you building a spruce goose?
Thanks for the tips!
Retired now...was Building Inspector/Official for an Oregon County for many years...watching your vid was like a trip down memory lane...all good, valuable advice...was a fun watch...keep up the good work
Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for letting us know how much.
Thank you so much for your videos. They have helped me so much with me not knowing basically nothing and having construction done on my home.
You are so welcome!
Thank you for sharing.
Great video GREG!!
Can you get a framing inspection for just the structural framing, and add partition wall later - just curious how this may have been handled if you've seen it.
For those wondering about what to do about the top plates when bored through - Look up R602.6.1 - Drilling and Nothing of Top Plate
Nice job! As one of my inspectors used to say, I need the rough plumbing, HVAC and electrical needs to be completed prior to the framing inspection because those guys come in after the framer and create many of the problems we find with the framing. As a retired PE and CBO I appreciate the comments about getting the engineer involved to remedy any structural issues.
agreed my question to plumbers and hvac is how bad are you going to hack up my house sparkies aren't as bad
@@jameskollmann3616 Until they drill 50 holes in the double top plate above the electrical panel or cut it out entirely!
Great point!
+1 from Interesting American. GREAT channel with extremely useful information. You are my goto guy for structural information on youtube!
Glad to help
Thanks!
No problem!
I must admit being an owner occupied / remodeler I had some major inspector itis to the point of putting off inspections for longer than I needed to cuz when they came it wasn't all that bad you know some fire blocking maybe a lally column in the basement you know fun stuff
learned a lot, thanks!
Glad to hear it!
I agree, clean up the job site. I noted the messy site during the video and was going to suggest it. A clean site does make your inspections go better just from a psychological perspective as if I am inspecting a messy job site that someone cannot bother to keep clean, I feel that there probably are several other details that are also lacking on the site that need looking into.
Thank you
You're welcome and thank for watching.
I'll agree with him keep the job site clean always it makes the job safer and when not only the inspector but the home owner may stop by to see the progress and it makes the job look better and like I said safety first always
Thanks for sharing and your other helpful comments.
Good to see. No framing and roofing inspektion in germany .😅😅
😁
Ya he's right if your not ready for the inspection don't call but when getting a rough framing ins. you don't need all Windows & doors in at least not in the chi only final inspection you'll need all that done
Lol, those are much more common than people think. People don't realize deviation from plans and/or degrading the structural integrity of structural members from a simple little careless cut can costs tens of thousands of dollars to fix and delay the project for days, weeks, even months!
The other common oversights is backer blocking for hand rails, cabinets, closets, towel bars, shelving, plumbing fixtures, not to mention around the exterior of fenestrations and corners that'll be cased with wide lumber like 2x6's, leaving no nailers for siding to nail to, and so on.
Ideally one could develop a standard checklist for all jobs like a preflight for pilots
For anyone who doesn't know, see the Codecheck flipbooks. They're a Godsend for the DIY and handyman sorts. They've kept me close to honest on nearly everything I've done after discovering them. And by the way, spend a year or two of weekends with your local Habitat for Humanity folks. I learned SO MUCH from our contractor. I swear, the man had levels and plumb-bobs behind his eyelids.
@@50srefugee Yes, I wish they were around when I started back in the 70's, they would've sped up the learning curve. 👍
@@Oldhogleg Figured you'd know about them....
I completely agree with your cleanup idea. It may not matter but it keeps everyone in a good mood. I always do a walk around my car before I get it inspected and make sure nothing stupid is broken like a taillight or a wiper. They usually let those things slide but I'd rather they talk to me about a bigger problem and maybe let me go fix that later. It just makes sense to keep everyone in a good mood.
I've seen inspectors leave the site before, because they didn't want to walk through the mess.
Inspectors check framing before I even start my HVAC. CAP
also safer workmans comp insurance is expensive if you have good record crazy if you have claims due to stupidity
good work on the content
Glad you like it
I didn't learn anything so I hit the thumbs up button.
An electrician friend once told me that "little" things can give your inspector the impression that you either are or are not detail/workmanship oriented and that will affect how your inspection proceeds for there. One thing he noted was the electrical panel. He said that if you have clean well laid out wiring there, the inspector will probably not check every box but if it is a mess, you can expect him to check the wiring in every box since he will expect it to be a mess too.
Very good video and info. Your thumbnail caught me because sometimes I require the hold downs to be set high - where anchors are glued into slab foundations. You never said if that was the problem, or the undersized plate washer in that frame.
Hold ups is what I call them. Because sometime they hold you up from finishing your wall. Have to leave out certain members or they don’t have any HD 14’s in the state.Maybe on the next barge, try back next month. “Ahhhhh damn HOLD UPS “
I’ve never had a bad experience with an inspector when the job site is clean. I’ve gone to job sites for inspections where other crews/subs have left messes from a prior day and the inspector has always looked around at it, and been much more critical of what he’s looking at on those days. Don’t let your subs leave a messy site.
Yes, the other guys, I couldn't get the subs to clean up when working with them and always looked forward to working with out them.
@@gregvancom I had a concrete sub pour at a job, on the first day when they laid out the footings they left water bottles and soda cans all over, including 1 tucked into a cell of the block wall that was to be filled. Mind you there is a trash can and dumpster on site. I took pictures of it, showed him the pictures the next day when he came by to do any last minute prep prior to pouring and I had it all picked up in a pile. I told him that if guys left my site like that again, I wouldn’t hire him for any more jobs and that his guys needed to clean up their mess when they got their. He apologized, he asked me to send him the pictures, he took pics of the pile, he cleaned it up, and he chewed their ass when they arrived.
Guardrails are minimum 36" for residential, 42" is for commercial.
36 above top finished tread above riser
42 above deck or landing finish
No such thing in IRC. What standard are you quoting?
Guardrail heights might be different in different parts of the country and throughout the rest of the world. You should always check with your local building department to verify them.
It’s not paramount, but a clean job site helps in job completion quality in countless ways.
Many of these problems can be avoid by following the KISS principle when designing the house. The simpler it is to build, the cleaner and more straightforward with less co flicks it will be
There is a reason you have zero thumbs up for this comment and probably never wiill... building codes have nothing to do with simplicity. Some are about safety but mosty about beuacracy. I am gonna guess from your comment you spent a lot of time on Reddit.
@@kevinmach730 shows how much you know, I’ve never been on Reddit. I’m not here for likes, I’m not a validation chaser. If this comment helps one person avoid the architect trap of trying to push more and more complex buildings on them because the architect wants to charge more money for a more complex building, or because the architect prefers a certain look, then I am more than happy with it. The more complex your building, the easier it is to avoid these conflicts pointed out in this video; which is not something you even tried to dispute. Instead you attempt a false equivalence fallacy stating building codes are about bureaucracy, which in some cases may be right, and some are about liability, but most are about preventing failures that have happened enough times that the way to prevent them is now the minimum standard. For example, you can span 12’ with a 2x8 floor joist on 16” centers, it’ll be a trampoline but it’ll pass yet a while back a group of kids fell through a floor that collapsed, despite it being built to code. The codes are a minimum requirement that I always exceed when it comes to structural. Have a nice day and good luck with your bitterness and ignorance which prompted your comment, I bet you’re lots of fun at parties.
1:05 That break in the plate on the right needs another nail to complete an overlapping nail plate break repair, as seen on the left.
I don't understand what you're suggesting, feel free to provide more details.
Is a fireplace out of wood OK in USA? (I realize that the surface will be covered in eg tiles)
That hold-down at the thumbnail can't hold down itself!...😅
As an engineer, if I go to a site that is sloppy, 8/10 times I'm going to find something wrong. Most of the time it's improperly installed hardware, or notched posts or beams, but occasionally it's wholesale deviation from the plans. Contractors and subs that care enough to keep the site clean, care enough to do the work correctly.
True!
At 0:30 , it sounds like you said I have to have all the windows in, as well as the plumbing , electrical, HVAC trades having finished their rough work. Is that correct? Specifically, do I need to have my windows in before I call for the first inspection? Thanks!!
I've always been told cleaning up your work place is important one safty and productivity, two inspectors see it as you have your stuff together, and three makes your insurance's (work comp, biz insurance and so on) happy if your protecting your lively hood then your probably doing things right. The more reasons you give osha, mshaw, any AHJ to dig deeper the more they will.
I also agree. I remember one time working on a project where at the end of the day I was exhausted, because I had to step over all of the plumbing pipes, trash and scattered lumber.
DIY guy here. This is, to be honest, daunting, and even frightening. I have to wonder how many mistakes I've made TRYING TO FIX A PROBLEM that would get a structure condemned if it were ever inspected. I'll likely never see any of the specifics mentioned here, but this is a serious wake up call to the subtleties that can trip up the unaware.
This is located in California and some of these building codes might not be used in other parts of the world or even in the United States.
Oh for sure. My rule of thumb was ... More nails,, more wood,, more concrete... No inspection lol then a few times I've had an inspection come much later it has been... Whoever did this must expect two hurricanes to throw a dump truck on top of this lol ... I'll never forget framing out a window bay with 4x6 . If that building came down it wasn't going to be my fault
It's crazy how many things are missed by "professional builders" that regular people who decide to build a home don't miss. It's almost like when it's your project and you're gonna live there it's suddenly easy to follow the rules and safety standards.
Do you know how to frame and select eye bolts to install between joists for, which I assume is what one would do, for the upper end of a vertical ground anchor cable system, holding down the edge of a mobile home? Thanks Island John
Maybe contact the manufacture for installation instructions. You can email me a drawing or picture of what you're trying to do for another opinion also.
HI Greg,
Can you do a video on how they frame vaulted ceilings with a main exposed ridge beam and exposed rafter beams that's mounted either on the face or top of the ridge beam, but without showing connectors? I'm still confused how that is done.
Here's a link to our website that might help. Let me know if you can't find what you're looking for.
www.homebuildingandrepairs.com/framing/index.html
Definitely check out some of the roof framing or roof remodeling videos. Also the ceiling framing and ceiling remodeling videos.
@@gregvancom thanks.
Always clean up before an inspection. If the inspector’s first impression is “this is a shit show” the inspection probably won’t go well. If their first impression is “this builder cares and pays attention” you will have a better outcome.
No competent inspector will overlook out of code or dangerous items, but there can be a lot of grey areas.
I've been a carpenter for 40 years, when I see a messy jobsite it tells me a lot about the builder. Upon closer inspection, I've always been right in these assumptions.
Good point.
Always compliment the inspector on his appearance when he arrives. Always laugh at his stupid unfunny jokes and stories. You will pass inspection every time..😮😊
Nice one, but it doesn't always work for me:)
that deep door header needs to be dry lumber to avoid shrinkage problems
Building code does allow approved framing anchor to replace mudsill bearing plate & j bolt IRC 602.11.1
Thanks for the information and building code reference number.
Sometimes you don't even need inspections.
I don't believed I heard him say when sheeting walls and that wall is on concrete there will be towns or inspector that will want that plywood a quarter inch off the concrete depending where you live or the inspector
Glad this is a Global thing. From NZ feeling less lonely being called "difficult b@st3rd" (building inspector)
P.S. plans are shit.
Always clean up after yourself unless told not to by the G.C. HIMSELF!
I worked as a plumber before. Never knotched a top plate like that. That's pretty bad. Also, I would only go through the top plate once, not twice. Connect the plumbing vents in the walls.
Sometimes this method leads to over notching walls studs. It can be a difficult decision to make.
@@gregvancom Those vents are 1.5". Shouldn't be a problem, especially just going through 2 studs. The real problem comes in when you have to put a 2" fitting into the hole in the stud. Won't be much meat left in it after that. Stud is just there for show at that point.
Minimum guarding height for residential application is 36". That is if your code follows the IRC.
Check in newer books for updated codes.
@@gregvancom I do this for a living. In CT we use the 2021 IRC. 36" minimum guard height. In the IBC, it's 42".
@@jamesswift5545 It won't be code in all areas. This might make sense, check with local building codes before building.
I never understood why in the past railings only had to be 3 foot high, it was too easy to fall over it.
Just lid backing
I think people go out of their way to make houses more complicated than they need to be trying to make a house around rooms instead of fitting rooms in a rectangular box.
Yep. As a former roofer I can add ridiculous “ cutup” roof with endless dormers, rakes, etc.
@Guns N' Glory I have a theory that some trades, architects included, are desperate to try and “justify their existence” by adding crap like that. I built a covid cabin this year that could easily pass for a monopoly house😁. Simple steel roof with zero holes through it. Sidewall vented everything.
How can inspectors approve using particle board in second story bathrooms it gets wet and falls apart
I'm guessing it wasn't inspected or had permits, but I've seen it before in mobile homes, but never in any projects I've ever worked on.
How can we tell from the plans if the trimmer needs to be a 4x or 6x6 post?
Look at the structural blueprint, it should literally say right on the drawing what it should be.
It should be called out on the structural drawings.
I have a new home being built and the lumber they used has me concerned. I'd love to send you some pictures so you can tell me what you think.
Yes, email some pictures, but keep in mind I can only provide an opinion.
@@gregvancom what is your email address
I bet if you measured from outside to outside on those black plumbing pipes you’d get 29,5”
Doesn't look like he has nosing on his stairs but ya thereare times the architect gets it wrong but a good carpenter will no what to do to fix it but always talk to the architect about the mistake and let him know what the problem is and how you will fix it and get his OK first
Lol, strap on. 🤣
the structural design needs to be coordinated with the plumbing design
I could be wrong but I think you met maximum height of 42 inches on hand rail usually 36-38 " But I could be wrong not trying to attack you make great videos overall
Thank you and you're right about the grip able handrail codes, I was referring to the guardrail, but said handrail.
@@gregvancom usually I go to you for code clarification so I guess I can pay that one forward thank you for your informative videos I really enjoy them
Want your house to pass inspection first time every time ? Take it from a 40 year expert you just leave a few joist hangers off the inspector sees them then tell him how smart he is and how great full you are for him catching that and how stupid you were for missing it . Then you have them in the back of the truck run out get them start putting up two hangers and bingo !
Is this one of my old construction foreman's:) I had a couple of bosses that wouldn't let me finish each house, because of your trick.
great info!...I am guessing they used a sawzall instead of a chainsaw. =oD
6" chainsaw saves lives
Does the plumber have to pay for a repair/fix like that?
Something like the toilet location and double joist damage could be blamed on the framer or engineer. If I was the plumber, I wouldn't have installed my pipes until the repair was approved by the engineer.
The need for Fire blocking on interior walls always blows my mind when there is a huge stairway “ hole”
Trust me I had to cut hundreds of fire blocks when I remodeled a 300-year-old house but what I learned was it's about what happens behind the walls that they're concerned about and it makes sense if you get a fire starting in the first floor you just created a chimney for that fire that just go right up to where you're sleeping
@@arlenmargolin4868 In a 300 year old house I wonder if the blocking was more about sheer strength than as a fire stop.
@@dominicm2175 let's see I'm trying to get my thoughts together here I just woke up but let me think I seem to remember that that house had four different editions put on to it and the original House was sort of like a log cabin that was baby 11x12 and when I got in the house I saw all these different styles of building from like I say log cabin to balloon frame to western style and some really nice timber frame construction so it was definitely interesting to say the least as far as making it all happen the inspectors used to come there to almost take a break from there normal everyday stuff since this was New Brunswick New Jersey and the town was being completely revamped yeah this is an old city for sure supposedly my house owned all the land of the farm it owned all the land to the Raritan River which is probably probably hundreds of acres but I would like to get more of the history on this house supposedly there was a 96-year-old lady two doors down who said that her great great grandmother was born in the house anyway I'm probably rambling here but yeah there's so many stories attached to this house that I could probably write a book I wish I had some of the pictures maybe I'll find them one day oh and PS most of the fire blocking was used in the section where the balloon framing was prevalent since they used studs that went from the sill to the Attic
I think they look at it as you do what you can to stop the fire, but good point.
@@arlenmargolin4868 always dead end water lines throughout the subfloor. I've seen it save a place. Unless you have sprinkler systems.
With insight into the building of homes I offer the following for the people having the homes built. Without the building inspector and without the engineer, the crap that you may end up with and the trouble you may have during the life of owning that home is unbelievably bad. Before the drywall and insulation goes in and on, the only chance to catch the mistakes are now. I know people do not like building permit for the most part the same for zoning however these are things that were designed to protect the homeowner who have little or no knowledge of construction. Good video. I hired a contractor to put on addition to an existing home I bought and re-roof the entire home with 40 year shingles and they put the shingles on wrong. At the time I didn’t know it, but I found out once I had a problem between the garage and the family room in a valley were two different roof lines met. Wet ceiling in the family room and insurance claim for $3000. It happens to all of us but you need the inspections.
I like it and thanks for sharing.
I personally avoid it unless it's an insane project. It's a money extractor for sure.
@@vanderumd11
My first new home was an owner builder, prefab. I was impressed with the quality of the material and the fit of windows and all other things that they were responsible for. I had an electrician do the wiring and I needed an inspection. The electrical inspector showed up walking with two canes, could barely make it to the basement where the circuit panel was with the electrician and his helper and said the following; how many outlets and switches are in this house I said I don’t know he said go countdown. I came back and I said there are 99, he said, that will be $110. Now I do admit that was in the early 80s. So much for him doing any inspecting at all but I knew the electrician and I knew his work. When I subsequently sold the house, the home inspection turned up one ground wire at a duplex outlet not properly attached. I know lots of horror stories.
@@yt650 true. Residential wiring is so easy.. if it's done improperly you just have a idiot lol it's literally 4 wires max down to the panels. You get into commercial building and that's a can of worms
@@vanderumd11
In my current business I have an electrician with all of the accreditation needed. I understand. I may have been easily fooled in the 80s but I learned to trust but verify and that includes everyone.
It depends on "THE MOOD" of the building inspector lolololol
There's no way I'm going to argue with that comment.
.might have to "treat:" the inspector to a night out (titty bar style) get him drunk and take a few compromising pictures...your inspection worries are over. =oD
Never ask him (How is your day going).
These are the reasons you need a full time superintendent that checks these issues before they become a major problem
It definitely makes a difference to have someone who knows what they're doing involved in a project like this.
Yes... Another 40,000 added to the job. Great lol
Where is this project located?
In California
@ 2:41 ....what are these "straps" called? And what is their purpose? Anyone know?? Thanks 😊
You can find them at a lumber yard or home improvement center and they're called straps. Maybe wood or lumber connection straps in the building hardware section of the stores.
@@gregvancom yeah, I kinda already knew they were called "straps" 😆. I was wanting to know "why" a strap was used in the areas you pointed out in this video. It would also be nice to know the actual name of the strap as I'm pretty sure they are not just called "straps". An example would be "hurricane straps , etc.... thanks
@@number1pappy Simpson Strong-Tie straps and plates join and reinforce joints with simple, versatile solutions for a wide range of connections. Available in many lengths
land of the brave and the free?
sure...
It's a point of contention I know but for a plumber trying to run pipes through walls, especially 2 story houses, with the framing and nailing requirements the plumber spends more time pulling nails so he can drill a hole for his pipe, many get frustrated and notch the plate or member and put a structural strap. And really when running a 2" pipe through a 3 1/2" top plate you have to drill a 2 9/16" hole leaving 1/4'' to 3/8'' on each side of the pipe under best case scenario. I find it hard to believe that 1/4'' 0r 3/8'' give any structural integrity to speak of. Drilling or notching still requires a structural strap. Personally I think the wall should have a 2x6 plate or a chase to accommodate the plumbing. People have no idea how hard it is to get some of these pipes from point A to point B. For those of you that have no empathy for that task I would say to you, imagine how much your house would be worth without that Toilet or Shower! Licensed Plumbing Contractor of 30 years.
I agree totally. If there's not going to be much left over after drilling, then why not cut the plates out completely, especially if you're going to have to strap it anyway. I would also like to suggest to any plumbers out there to try and cut out the bare minimum or near the bare minimum, because there's no need for cutting 4 inches out if you only need 3 inches:)
On your 1st point,.....Doesn't simpson make a bracket for when you need to completely cut through a double top plate? Similar for a shoe when you cut too deep into a wall stud? We never had to use any, but I was aware they were made. Maybe I spent too much time reading simpson literature.
They might, but an engineer would still need to approve it.
Only a load bearing plate will require a strap. Partition plates can be completely cut through. An engineer is not needed as the IRC has a prescriptive fix for a load bearing plate that is over bored, or notched.
Clean up the job site. Actually, that's #1. DOES make a difference. Especially for those who run an especially sloppy, trip-hazard-ridin' site. Inspector can be put in the wrong frame of mind before he even starts the inspection. A frame of mind you REALLY don't want him in when looking at your work and deciding how hard he/she is gonna hit you.
Great Advice.
Is that a chicken coupe or house?
4 fly by night fraudulent contractors/builders did not approve of this vid, clearly. So I will take it upon myself to thumb it up with my 3 ID's Bahahahahaha
An inspector should never let their emotions enter the equation. But they all do, and that's why they are all hated...
You need an architect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I kept my entire construction site neat, clean and orderly throughout the entire project. The subs didn't like it...too bad. My inspector found one small problem I easily corrected myself as the framing contractor had been paid and gone for several months.
The biggest problem I personally had was with the electrical contractor. There were several places where he drilled through the floor joists too close to the top or the bottom of the joist. The building inspector still passed it. Maybe it helped that many of my joists were placed 12 inches on center.
It was no fun playing GC when I built my home. I would not do it again.
I here you and other contractors are probably the reason why I have no more interest in working as a General Contractor myself.
“ wouldn’t want to be the person who nailed the strap on”... 🤔
Exactly!!!
If a inspector has mood he shouldn't be a inspector.
That should include other professions also.
I dont get that people have to make changes to make something fit. Probably some people in the chain thought it was the end of their responsibility, and there was no one to fill up that gap. Leading to situations, in which a subcontractor took on a job from the contractor, and came to the conclusion some other subcontractor did not do as expected. Or the subcontractor was payed money for the job, and his job specified a toilet at that spot so thats what he did. Not really interested in the final result, while that costs him money. For example...
So it was the contractors responsibility to get the job checked out to see if there are any issues, while the contractor is in the end responsible for the final end result.
So everything what a subcontractor does, should be checked by the contractor to see if it is done right. Now in the real world it is not really feasible to do that. So you depend on subcontractors you know that can do the job right, and you get those every time (preferably). Separate the wheat from the chaff. Some times chaff is what you get.
Greetings,
Jeff
Yes, somebody needs to know what is going on. One job I worked on I had over 4 pages of problems, so they sent out the engineer and the architect.
@@gregvancom Yeah they should know what the deal is. But having that many problems says a lot about those plans. There should be no room for people to fill up the gaps, because the plans are not clear. So that means the engineer and the architect didnt do their work correctly, and now they have to go and visit the job site. If the plans are detailed enough, and it is clear what is expected. Then the tradesman can do their work. Always have someone check the plans before it goes out to the contractor. However if the contractor signs the deal, with the plans then presented. And he does as the plans state and its somehow wrong, its not his fault, and it should not cost the contractor money. So i guess it were some costly mistakes.
I really liked the video, it really show well what goes wrong on job sites, and you should really read into the plans before (sub)contracting. You dont want to get into messes like this (unless you make a lot of money of it, and it wont cost you (your (companies) name)).
Greetings,
Jeff
Ta hell with the inspector. There's too damn many regulations and codes.
Wow that house is a mess!
Here is a thought maybe the inspectors are the problem once a inspector gets to know the contractor they buddy up with that contract .. if inspectors were rotated every two weeks that would help bad inspectors as well.. I know this for it was a bad inspector that came to my job telling me I was wrong even after showing codes I followed was correct and said change the inspector went on vacation a new one with better since came in and asked me why I changed ... I said I just get tired of arguing with inspectors because it's not worth making them made .. he said no piss them off go over there heads if needed .. this guy taught not only my profession in a class but was the main inspector that also taught inspector class .. he said piss them off if I know I'm right... In which I don't like doing .. it was also as stated here architect planners bad design and so on .. my rookie caught the mistakes I gave them a raise ... So I don't care if we piss you off if we are right we will fight .. also I pissed of a inspector after I pulled all permits and was ready for inspection the inspector came in without looking at what was done said ok it's good .. I told him hold up come and do your job I paid for them to do he said I did I know the home owner for years he has always had good worker on job .. hmmm that was the reason we were there nothing was good or code .. so before you post don't piss of inspector maybe you should first know what kind inspector you have on the job one that's just collecting money or one that's just power hungry or one that only thinks they know codes because they can spout off numbers from code book .. I have had awsum inspectors and more bad ones .. so yes piss inspector off but also take pride in your jobs as well just holding a contractor license does not make you or a contractor business a good either ... Bosses go to your job sites inspect your employees job no matter how good you think they or they're doing you are sure to bet you will find cut corners... So yea if you can show why the problem accured to inspector than that inspector needs to back you up and go to designer.. everything looks good and works on computer.. oh yeah I am talking about hospitals and major projects not just residential all construction ..
Not all inspectors or contractors are honest and you bring up some good points.
all depends how copident inspecters are i have lived in areas wher the inspecters are known as drive by . and a town who thinks 2.5 mininutes is ok for a a/c change which costs 110 dollars . and of the 3 things he checked were already in the house wnen built 16 yrs before unnecessart permit just to make city 100 bucks . roof dry in and final he never notified he was on my roof i just heard fiot steps
fortunatly i versed enought i inspect the work as its dne and before i paid . i will never trust a government inspecter or a home inspecter if there contract has pages of legal exceptions
other problems international code, state or town code as written and installed if he dont like it he can fail you then there claiming qualified immunity on a case i saw that every single inspection he signe off was way off code including lumber size the town said no liability and last heard hes still employeed
Sounds like you've has some experience. I've got plenty of inspector and plan check stories. Thanks for sharing.
We install a temporary stairway that is never the finished staircase rise and run so the stairs aren’t really something the inspector can flag because they’re installed in such a way they can be removed after drywall
That framing is “Mexxed Out”.
Obviously! Hacks.....
If you think this video is gonna help you because you are thinking this is easy. Save yourself the money you will get fined with and the headache and hire a consultant for the love God.
Building inspectors assume that you know all the requirements before an inspection and don't try to find a guidelines it's all tribal knowledge.
He, he, him… not all engineers are men
I agree and it's not an easy habit to break.
Same BS we get from cops that shouldn't be cops. Why does the building inspectors "feelings"' have anything to do with what the public has hired them to do? Statements like "It depends on the inspectors mood that day" is again BS and you need to find another job. If you're in it for the power trip (like a bad cop) you need to get a different occupation.
It's the same in any business and people need to be aware of things they should not take personally.
OK, but let us not behave as if "code" is an onerous proposition. "Code" is the absolute minimum allowed by law for safety, moral and ethical reasons. When enough (not just some) people die, the code is upgraded. "Code" is a "D-" at best! We can, and SHOULD, build better than the "absolute bare minimum" as a matter of course. Anyone dancing on the edge and focussed only on barely getting to "code" is a person of questionable ethics and quality. What is everyone's opinion? Who votes for doing the bare minimum to escape from Dodge, and who feels we, as an industry, should rise to a higher quality level??