Bilstein 5100 Shocks installed on 2016 Ford F450
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Bilstein 5100 Series Shocks
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I do like your videos, with a balanced informative way. I have to correct you when you say Ram is the only manufacture of trucks that offer Bilstein as factory equip. Also in no Toyota fan boi by any stretch, but on the TRD packages plus I believe some Nissan PRO4X you also get them!! I may be wrong, but seem to remember that! Also adding Bilstein shocks on anything will be an improvement!
+Kevin Voyer: You are 100% correct. I should have clarified that I was specifically referring to 3/4+ trucks. But I didn't, so you are correct and spot on.
I have a 15 F350 drw with the fx4 setup that just rolled past the 30,000 mark. I've noticed two problems that my Ford dealership checked and gave me the "its within spec" song and dance. The first issue was cupping on both inboard front tires. I took it to Ford and had an alignment done. The service advisor said the alignment was fine and went on to tell me that it's a known issue with these trucks. His advice to me was to rotate the tires more often.
The other issue was the feeling of the front end (I bought this truck new and remember what it felt like). Small bumps, freeway driving (expansion joint) or potholes really upset the front end . It seemed to take more time for the front end to settle down. After reading several blogs about tire cupping and the killer "death wobble" I felt like it could possibly be either shocks or worn bushings. All the bushings were in great shape and the tie rods looked good.
I had just watched your video about the Bilstein 5100's and figured it was time to swap the old Ranch'o's out. As you said, it's a pretty straightforward job. I took all four of the Rancho's and cycled them twice. I left all four in my truck bed fully compressed. After 24 hours, all of the shocks were still fully compressed. All four went to the trash can after I saw that.
I took it out on a test drive and it felt like it did when new. The potholes, bumps and expansion joints didn't unsettle the front end as it used to. To me it was a noticeable improvement. Will the new front shocks take care of the tire cupping? Only time will tell 🤔. I enjoy your videos, keep up the good work....
I did this Bilstein four shock upgrade on my 99 F250 SD Lariat Ext Cab V10 @ 145,000 miles and added a Bilstein steering dampener. They are a high quality product. The most noticeable difference was under a load for me. My truck still has the like new feel when I drive it. 👍👍🇺🇸
I have the same truck. Did you put the boots up or down?
I love my 5100 series shocks. They really stop any extra bounce after a bump or dip.
I also own a 2016 F450, when pulling my large 5th wheel the truck rides GREAT. When I am not pulling I lower the tire pressure by 10 PSI ... 90 PSI to 80 on the front and 80 PSI to 70 on the duallys because the ride is so rough I will have to look into the Bilstein 5100 shocks.
Mick Martin: I also do this.
@@BigTruckBigRV I drop to 70 on my 450..also fill aux fuel tank ...Mine has stock shocks...watching your video to decide on brand and style...thanks .....tow a 20k 5th wheel ....
This is the video that brought me to your channel.
I put them on my 2006 Sierra 1500 SLT Z71 last year and they were fantastic. Then some jackass ran a light at 110kph and nearly killed me.
Now I’m about to put the same shocks on my 2003 Silverado 2500HD LT 4x4. Looking forward to the improved ride.
Its common for OEM's to put their part number on parts they don't manufacture themselves. Many specialty part's/assemblies are not made by the OEM but are spec'd out by them. This is done for many reasons, like trace ability for quality control, not only for the vehicle build but also the individual part/assembly build. Also, this a way to make it easier to look up a part number for replacement, keeping track of spec changes over the years, operator/station build information, etc.
I put some Bilstien 5100's on my '78 Jeep CJ & they've really improved the ride & handling tremendously
Hi Big Truck Big Rv I own a 2004 F250 and it has the Fx4 package and the rancho shocks on it and replaced them after 30,000 miles to the same ones and after 20,000 the ride was bad without a load and towing are 10,000 pound camper it was all over the place so I got the Monroe max control and they have been great
That was the first upgrade I did to my Duramax
I enjoy watching your product reviews and test drives. Based on the videos I have watched I believe when and if you decide to upgrade to the 2017+ many of these issues will be addressed. Ride quality, cab vibrations, def gauge, push to start, door seals, and soft open tailgate have all been upgraded. Same Rancho shocks though...Ride quality on the F450 is always going to suffer with the 19.5 wheels and tires.
I've run bilstein and had a rough ride. The best I've ever had are Icon shocks (what I run on my 16 f250).... hand made in the US and they are great. But most people have don't know the difference dont get fooled by the placebo effect. IMO Icon all the way. Shocks have everything to do with ride less than your springs. I've swaped and lifted many trucks.
Powerstroke 6.7: I'm very familiar with ICON shocks. I've used them on other trucks I've owned. To me, they felt literally identical to Fox 2.0 shocks in terms of calving. A little to harsh for my taste personally
On a side note, I'm only lifted 2.5-3" stock tires & wheels and made a trip to Dallas from Austin for Fathers day and averaged 20mpg on the way there and about 19.5mpg on the way home, unloaded. Loaded I'm getting 12 give or take towing 10K or less. A cool video would be what the big 3 are getting for mileage.
I’ve been running Icon for the last 60000 miles. Their shocks are trash and have to be rebuilt or replaced every 20000 miles. I’m about to go buy some Bilsteins.
Saw one other comment on here about the tundra, but also the Tacoma with the TRD Off-Road and I believe the Sport come with Bilstein 4600 series. I personally have the adjustable 5100s on my 07 Toyota 4Runner and I absolutely love them!
Just put them on my 12 f250 that we use for our truck camper, not that huge of a difference in ride quality with the heavy payload but no more death wobble.
Have them on 2010 f250 not a huge difference but a lot better. And also look badass
A dad joke on father's day? I'll accept it. Also running bilsteins on my ram 3500. It's so much nicer.
Should probably add that the 2nd gens didn't come with Bilsteins. Plus the old shock would rebound for about an actual day.
The back ones go with the rubber boot down because it has holes on it for the water to go out of.
Different set of tires may help the ride as well.
Tundra have 4600 bilstein oem on trd package
What was the part numbers for the shocks you installed? Most websites do not offer a DWR option when putting vehicle information in the compatibility database.
Hi BTBR, I have been looking for solutions to ease the bumpy ride primarily in the back seat of my new 2017 RAM 3500 Limited Mega Cab. I was looking to have the Sulastics installed on my new truck, but after visiting a very reputable frame and alignment shop in Huntington Beach, CA, they recommended dropping the rear tires air pressure from 80 psi to 45-50 psi when not towing. I could then air them back up while towing my big 5th wheel. They also recommended these same Bilstein 5100 series shocks due to their industry leading incredibly fast valving at highway speeds. They also dissuaded me from the Sulastics for which I went to them in the first place, per your video. They told me, while the Sulastics will help, they won't give me the results I am after for the $$$. They said they would put them on for me, but felt I would not be as impressed with the results as much as I expected. The Sulastics, being essentially "heavy duty rubber bands" supporting the rear of my 8500+ pound truck will wear out after 2-3 years and need replacing. Another interesting thought is that my RAM dealer offers to refill my tires with Nitrogen for free whenever needed, which I suspect is another way to get me into the dealer so they can find another way to sell me something. This same shop explained to me, that while Nitrogen is an inert gas which does not expand with heat which is good, the new truck dealers do not inflate the new truck tires with Nitrogen in a vacuum environment, so there is still plenty of "normal" air in the tires. Just a heads-up to those who think they need nothing but Nitrogen in their tires.
Thanks - Phil
Phil Salsbery is it a srw or drw? Especially if it is srw I ran 45 to 50 psi in the rear and 55 in the front and it helped tremendously. I have a 2500 though so I have to deal with the low tire pressure light at all times.
Thank You for info ... Much appreciated ...
Bilsteins are the best! I love mine
what about some type of cab mount that helps isolated the cab from the chassis more?
Now would a true Corpus Christi person would know that
I’ve been looking for these shocks on line and all I can find are shocks with 0” lift in the rear and up to 2” on the front (as a set). I’m looking to replace shocks on 2015 F 450. Any advice would be greatly apprciated! TY
Why don’t you try the 2.0 Performance Series w/ CD Reservoir Shocks?
You picked a good road to test them... I avoid Rodd Field in my Ram 2500 if possible
Looks cool
Can you maybe do some reviews of some older pickup trucks and compare them to each other I think it would be interesting
Dominic Valentine: that's a great idea. Finding comparable models, years, and trims is probably the hardest part. What trucks do you think?
if you are shopping older trucks I don't think chevy vs ford vs ram is super applicable because your primary concern should be about condition vs price the newer truck generations get more capable in several orders of magnitude so I would always recommend going for a newer truck even if You have to give some bells and whistles like leather/sound systems ect.
I now own this truck, July 2020, and there is still no Bilstein listed exactly for a non lifted front shock. I have a part number of 24-186018. It does say 2 Inch lift, but their site does not list a zero lift shock for the 2016 F450. Any chance you can confirm the part number you used for this video? I have the original ranchos, and they have gained a three bounce minimum at 60,000 miles. Thanks, I have really enjoyed your videos as well.
Good evening ( the boots on the
Bilstein 5100 they are supposed to be down ? Sorry I saw another video the guy replacing rear shocks on F-150 and he say the customer service tell him to put the boots down
So I'm just little confused now
Thank you very much for the video sir
How often should the shocks be replaced? I have a 2015 F250 and tow RVs for a living. Should I go with the 4600 or the 5100? First of your videos that I have watched and enjoyed it and did subscribe.
Ford F53 motorhome chassis come with Bilstein's as standard equipment.
I have 4600's sitting in the cab of my 2015 f150 SC 5.0 right now. I would expect them to make a little more of a difference than on your 450. I've been getting some porpoising when towing my 6000lb TT. Hopefully they will dampen some of that over what I call the "soccer mom" factory shocks. Or at least change the harmonic enough to make things better. What do you think? (Small tow package, Equalizer hitch, D rated STs on the TT). Will also add Timbren bump stops for a little extra margin which should have no effect on non-towing I think. Just another layer of stability when the towing gets rough.
Asher Stanton: Timbrens will definitely help, but with the F150s soft rear leaf springs, you'd probably be better with an Add a leaf or Super Spring added
Asher Stanton I put Firestone Ride Right 5000 airbags on my 2011 F150. I prefer airbags over adding a leaf you don't notice any ride difference when the truck is empty.(If you decided to up airbags on buy the kit with the higher rating. You don't have to run as high of pressure in them to carry the weight and you'll get a better ride.) Also D or E rated tires will help also. I get about 65k out of Bfgoodrich ko2 275/70/18
Nope, my rock warrior came with bilstein 4600 series when I purchased the truck. So not only the rams come with it ;).
PS great videos. Valuable.
I have a set of 2.0 fox coming for my f350 not sure if there any better, but look better then them yellow shocks.
pentecost66: awesome! but mine are not yellow...soo..... Fox2.0s are great (had them on my last Super Duty) but they made the ride too stiff.
I just bought 5100 for my tundra.
Hmmm, old Ford Tech Makulucho says rubber boot should go down. But on front, it cannot.
I would like to know the part number of the 5100 shocks you put on. I have a 2014 f450 and I need shocks and would like to put 5100 instead of 4600. Thanks
I'm looking for something to smooth out my standard/short Silverado, and this might work. Thanks!
jw '46 hi I put in my f150 and is to Stif and went you turned around and take one hole the truck moving around I scared and I put falcon shocks and I tell you the difference is better so good and driving like car
@@barbaromatos8198 yes I've heard they are stiff,
I just got mine, I personally like them, always liked the harder suspension feel
Need your opinion. I have a 2019 Ram 2500 and I’m looking to get the Bilstein 5100 for my truck. I have a 34ft travel trailer and my current shock are skyjacker Max and they’re absolutely horrible.
Would you say changing shocks can change towing capabilities at all? Meaning making a setup feel better or worse? If you wanted to improve the feel when towing, would a shock upgrade help?
Scott Baker: depends on the load. They should benefit regardless though since they offer more dampening than the stock.
Generally yes, but dont think they'll allow you to safely tow loads that are beyond spec. They will improve your towing "experience."
Just picked up my 19 F-250 Lariet Sport. Seems I made a tactical error in only test driving FX4 and not a 4x4 like I bought.
Truck is really skittish over bumps and harsh. Seems the FX 4 shocks made the truck feel more composted. I loved the ones I test drove but this one feels heavy to drive vs effortless of the others.
On your front shocks what setting did you use? I'm thinking of getting a set for my 15 F-250....not lifted.
Hey you gonna get me in trouble. When you do some to your f450...I do the same to mine....lol after I get approval from the wife. She don't always approve.
Kelton Boyd: lol sorry brother, its only going to get worse for you then :)
Do u have sulastic upgrades in both the front and back of your truck. And if so could i ask you what the installation costs were. Thank you for your time.
ford puts motorcraft on everything if it goes on their vehicle. doesnt matter if its made in a ford plant or not its part of the deal
hey, i have a 2014 ford f450 wrecker tow truck. its got a really bumpy right. you think these would help? thanks
I'll probably slap fox 2.0 or bilstein 5100 on my 15 denali hd. Rancho shocks are alright but could use improvement
PCGonline: Fox 2.0s are a little too stiff for me.
So, do you think it is worth the investment in time and money to replace the OEM so soon?
Alexander McKay: it is but barely. if that makes sense.
Big Truck Big Tv in your opinion what are the best shocks for a F350 srw
Harrison Brown: stock with no mods, I would say the 5100 Bilstein. I use to hear really greats things about the Rancho 9000, but lately I've heard of lot of negative feedback on them.
Check out the FOX 2.0. i think they are of equal quality to the 5100s.
I am running Rancho 9000 on my F350 SRW for about 5000 mi now and no complaints. A big improvement over the stock shocks. I also added Rancho steering stabilizer and it feels solid up front when I hit bumps.
Regal2800: Fox shocks are nice, but are much stiffer (more racing inspired) and only carry a 1 year warranty (VS bilsteins lifetime). A plus for Fox is that they are rebuildable (serviceable)
i ended up with 5100 for my ram as well, but the FOX shocks were a real nice product. If i am not mistaken you could also change the valves in them to custom tune the shock to your needs.
would ford have payed Rancho to use there name that mite explain the moter craft on the factory shock
Brandon B: I'm sure using a Ford Motorcraft stamp was required by Ford as part of the deal.
I use to work for brembo in their rotor factory. Usually each oem manufacturer requires their own logo and the brembo logo is not put on. Take any dodge mini van and look at the rotor, you will not find a brembo logo anywhere, but brembo makes them all. You will find a brembo part number on the hat, but unless you worked for brembo, you would never know what it meant. This goes for almost every part on a vehicle. The vehicle manufacturer makes just a handful of products anymore.
On the front shocks, did you have an issue with the piston spinning as you tightened the nut? How did you get it tightened down?
I believe Allen wrench in top of shaft
hey Big Truck Big RV what type of mpg highway do you get? this coming Saturday or Friday I will be buying a new f250 or 350. I like the 350 dually because I tow alot of weight but not often. the 250s came with a 3.55 axcle ratio which to me isn't nearly enough I think I should need at least a 3.73
Robert McGuire: I have a 4:30 rear end and I get between 13-17 City/hwy not towing and between 11-13 towing.
Shocking.
If you had a choice of only one to install would it be the Sulastic spring or the Bilstien shocks?
for a smoother ride? Easily Salastics. For a firmer ride, Bilstein.
What is the exact part number for these? I'd like to order a set for my 2011 F450
Nissan Pro4x truck models also come standard with bilstein shocks.
Great videdos can you let me know the name of the hydraulic jack you use? Thanks.
SafeJack.
Excellent video and site. I am soon taking delivery on a 2017 Ram 3500 SRW 4x4 Mega Cab Cummins/Aisin setup. For sure I am having the Sulastic Shackles installed (Ram dealer recommended them and your video review confirmed it for me).
QUESTION: What are your thoughts on leveling kit for front end and going with slightly larger tires? Factory tires are 275/70R18 Firestone Transforce HT. I'd like to go with BFG KO2 or Toyo A/T II in a 295 (same size as my '99 Ford F-250 PSD Lariat CC that I've been driving for the last 18 years). Many thanks! -Dave
Dave Smith: thanks! I'm not a big fan of leveling kits unless you also replace the alignment caster shims to return your steering angle to the factory positioning. Otherwise, it will make your steering feel loose and like you're steering on a ball.
Have you done any videos on leveling or lift kits? That would be very technical and interesting. So I guess I'll be limited to the 275/70R18 factory tires. I don't like them. They look like bicycle tires on such a heavy duty truck. :(
You forgot "Or just driving in Illinois"
Hi there. Mind posting the Part #'s?
I wasn't impressed at all at first either, but let them break in, and they get better
Where did you find part numbers for Bilstein 5100's for a 2016 F450? I am having trouble finding. Thx!
Go to bilstein site, punch in vehicle and it will tell your part # front and rear
He explained fit in the video
Let's get past the foreplay and just get bags on all 4 corners
New rims?Black with white would look nice.
So I just get them for a f350?
Put 5100’s on my F150 today and have not had chance to drive it yet. Want to get wheel alignment done first. I probably won’t be able to sleep tonight lol.
How do you like them 1 year later? I just ordered a kit. Also did you install the rears with the boot down?
Did you ever tow with them
Hey Big Truck Big Rv, i have a question. So my Dad has a 2014 f-350 King Ranch, and i was wondering what is the difference between a f-250 and f-450?
*f-350, besides that it is a one ton
Grant Fleming: F450 can tow roughly 15,000lbs more (nearly twice as much), has an additional 3000lbs payload capacity over th F250, a much stronger rear axle, 4:30 gearing, much bigger brakes, a much beefier front frame section and commercial 19.5" wheels and tires, plus a widened front axle
Grant Fleming: Depending on the year, the difference are similar to an F450 if its a dually. in 2014 if you're referring to both trucks being a SRW truck, then its mainly payload capacity and tow rating. The F350 generally has an overload leaf spring standard as well as a taller rear suspension block and low gearing. That's about it though.
thanks
thank you
As I've said before swap out you tires to Michelins even if you jut swapped the steers you will notice a smoother ride running XZE rib highway tire.
Graveltrucking: might be an upgrade soon.
Graveltrucking I run toyo open country AT's due to work environment, but my dad runs those on his 350 dual and swears by them.
Brandon Phillips I like Toyos as well I'm currently running CTs on my truck they sing a little on the highway but I'm happy with them.
Graveltrucking, I agree! There is Michelin Tires, and there is everyone else. It's just a fact that Michelin tires are the best! Period!
P J With 19.5 tires Michelins have the best ride, the stock Continental tires on F-450/550 trucks are horrible they ride like crap, never cheap out on buying 19.5 tires that are used on your steering axle.
Do you happen to know are the 4600 series monotube
Yes, they are
I had rancho QuickLift loaded Ranchos on my Silverado, the difference between those and Bilstein 5100s RHA is incredible, ranchos are garbage
I have a 2000 F250 7.3
Oh look it says rancho it must be better than stock Motorcraft I'll pay more for that option than I should. That's my opinion.
Kevin Shackelford: Well, the Shocks are just part of the FX4 packaged which includes far more important upgrades, such as a locking rear differential and additional skid plates.
Your videos are great! Just bought a 2016 f350 6.7L to pull my 36ft grand design TT and am in love with it! Would love for you to do a video on diesel delete kits. It seems like all the EPA regulations are horrible for the engine and your thoughts would be appreciated!
Best shocks you could ever buy-> www.monroe.com/en-US/products/shocks-struts/load-adjusting/monroe-load-adjusting-shock-absorbers/ Once installed you will really notice a difference.
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I have put them on my 04 Chevy 2500hd w/ 8.1 litre gas hoger. I really like them a lot. Great videos as always. Keep up the good work!
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Rancho is garbage
Tiny tires.