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Do NOT Buy a Miyoo Mini V4! (here’s why)
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The Miyoo Mini has been heralded as one of the best handheld emulators, but I wasn't too impressed with how things were after going from the Miyoo Mini Plus to the Miyoo Mini V4. With the lack of Wifi and other features, I can't recommend this and would rather go with the Miyoo Mini Plus instead.
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I’m someone who went backwards from a mini plus to the v4 just because I really wanted the blue edition. I figured I’d probably still mostly go for my plus and was happy to spend $50 on the mini v4 just to have as a collector piece to play around with occasionally. Gotta say though as soon as I got it in my hands I knew it was something special and immediately understood the hype that I missed out on when it originally came around. I’ve had it for about a week now and honestly haven’t touched my plus since then. There’s just something really special about a device that small capable of playing my entire childhood on such a nice vibrant screen. The pocket ability makes it practically unrivaled for me for 30 minute to an hour long game sessions just about wherever I am. There may be some concessions and overall I’m glad I have the plus as well as it’s likely gonna be better for long game sessions in the long run but again the compact form factor of the og mini is just truly special imo. It would have seemed like a pipe dream when I was a kid or even a teenager in high school and I think the fact that any of these devices exist let alone in these small easily pocketable form factors is something that’s really easy to take to for granted. Overall loving the heck out of the mini v4
opposite for me. i got the smaller version. but once i tried the plus it just felt more comfortable to hold and the screen size is perfect for me. the original is still good for packing very light when traveling
I love my V4's. I purchased a yellow and a blue. I've got two V2's and two V3's as well. I have no issues with any of the screens. I think people are far too nitpicky about the screen. All i hear is Russ' opinion on everything these days and everyone just repeating what he says. Just try it for yourself. I like the pocketablity of the original mini. The plus is good too. I have the grey and the black.The 35xx to me was a waste of money. Crappy dpad. I own a Steam deck, RG280V, RGB30, RG405M, Odin Pro, Switch, and many older systems. I take my mini to work with me every day. I use it multiple times a day. It's really good. Just another opinion.
WTF, why do you have six versions of the same product?
@Phafanapolis they're all different colors and different models. Some I've customized. I enjoy collecting them. Not a new concept.
@@2nd_rate_artThey're not all different models, they are all Miyoo Minis. I can somewhat understand collecting different chips and screen sizes and form factors, but to triple down on the same (cheap, shitty, low end) model is baffling to me.
You do you. Waste your money how you see fit.
@Phafanapolis lol yeah I'll definitely be doing that. I hope you're ok.
I have the OG Miyoo mini,the plus and recently bought the mini v4 as a gift for a friend.While I was installing Onion OS I noticed how washed out the screen and the colors were specially compared to my other minis.So its usable but its not good.Cry me a river now
The Miyoo Mini v4 with latest Onion release candidate (V4.3), is incredible. The screen is very sharp. I have it and the Miyoo Mini plus and the screen difference is notable to me.
Miyoo Mini + is perfection, comfortable, wifi, multiplayer, nice screen. No need for a smaller version. Although it is supercute.
Yeah. I get that. The V4 just didn't live up to the expectations that I had after everyone hyped up the V2. The Miyoo Mini Plus is the go to for me.
Question is it possible to be able to transfer Pokemon so that they evolve, and if possible I don’t know if you could explain the process. I bought the mini myth +
@jasonortizreyes5876 if you bought the Miyoo Mini +, then you can use Onion OS and toggle it on in the settings.
I don’t know if I have big hands or not. But the MM+ is already a pretty small device so something smaller would make me want glasses and smaller hands. I absolutely love the MM+ and think that’s kinda the best overall machine.
Dude. It's so small. I'd definitely stick with the MM+.
@@baldlyrudy I legit one-hand the MM+ playing Pokémon on it.
@thedadamer heck yeah dude. 🙌
Mini is abit small for me, but i wont invest in v4 is the game ply etc is pretty much the same
@khanimania it's not worth it, IMO.
I love my Miyoo mini plus. It isn't rare to find it right now. I and two of my friends have bought them recently. It's probably the best handheld emulation device I have ever used.
Agreed! The Miyoo Mini Plus is fantastic, and much better than the Miyoo Mini V4, IMO.
I’m comparing both side by side, an GBA looks slightly larger when integer scaled on my v4 than my plus. It also seems to be scaling 3x to 720x480 on the v4, and I’m noticing Retroarch is making use of the full 560p display and not just stretching 480p image to 560p, so it looks pretty sharp. I mostly use it for GBA, and the other consoles I play on my Retroid Pocket 2S, so it’s been working better for my use case than the plus.
I’m finding the miyoo mini+ gives me massive letterboxing when integer scaling gba. I had a v2 before u bought the plus, and the plus felt like a downgrade to me other than the screen size and WiFi. Just picked up the v4, and I think the resolution issue being referred to by the video was fixed in a firmware update, and I’m noticing I can actually use usb-c to usb-c and higher wattage chargers with the v4 (not the v2), unlike the plus, so I can actually use my iPad charger to charge my v4. To straight up call the v4 a downgrade is a bit of a simplification of the user base, to be honest.
I believe the Miyoo Mini V4 has been updated to correct a lot of the issues that were present at the time of publishing the video.
@@baldlyrudy It looks like mine came with the latest version of Onion pre-installed, looking at the patch notes I see what you mean. I do wish the overlays were redone to account for the 560p screen. The ones that rely on integer scaling or grids are based on a 480p screen, so I ended up altering them in PS to make them work on the v4’s screen. Overall I’m still happy with the device, though the battery life could be better.
@The-Eric-Cartman nice! I'm glad Miyoo is going that route then.
Please update the review, the problems have been fixed
Yeah, with how similar in price this is to the MM+ it would be crazy to get the V4 over it. At this point, the MM seems like more of a novelty now that the MM+ is on the market. MM+ is bigger, has a better screen and wifi. Literally no reason to ever go with a V4 imo.
Personally I'm in the market for one of these and its between the MM+ and the 35xx. The 35xx screen looks amazing, but no wifi and a worse Dpad seems like the deal breaker for me to go the MM+ route.
The screen on the MM+ still looks really great in the videos I've seen. And I'm going to assume that if I didn't see it side by side with the 35xx I wouldn't even notice it was slightly worse anyways.
Agreed.
And yes, if you didn't see them next to each other, then you wouldn't even notice the difference in the screens between the MM+ and the RG35XX.
@baldlyrudy awesome. Appreciate the confirmation. Think I'm going to pull the trigger on the MM+ today.
No worries. Game on. 🙌
I bought the V4 in transparent blue, I love the colour (I wish the Mini+ came in this colour). The build quality isn't as good as the Mini+, as my unit has a somewhat lose battery cover. I find the Mini a good console for Gameboy games and anything that doesn't need use of both shoulder buttons, switching the triggers around so L2 is L1 and R2 is R1 does make it more comfortable when playing GBA and SNES (it's great for Pokémon). I do think that for PS1 the Mini+ is far more comfortable. Where the Mini shines is playing it for short bursts, like if you are waiting in a queue or have a few minutes spare. Sure, I would have liked if the Mini V4 had wifi but it doesn't bother me that much.
I know there are complaints about the V4 not having a screen as good as the V2 / V3 but seeing as those are being scalped I don't mind paying a lot less for a somewhat inferior screen. I did find turning contrast down to 0 made the screen look less washed out. Hopefully the upcoming firmware might make the screen perform a bit better.
That's the hope. Maybe software can improve the handheld a bit. I love the 16-bit era, so I'm all about SNES games. GB/GB/GBA games are great on the MM+, and they could potentially be better for the MM V4, but getting used to the size is another issue. The MM+ just feels more comfortable for me.
The screen is actually better than the V2 and V3 now after the software updates to properly scale the screen.
Each has their strength. The mini+ is better gaming experience, comfortable, but it takes too much space in my pocket for me to carry it everywhere I go.
I absolutely LOVE my Miyoo Mini v2! It's so awesome and feels great in the hands to me, fantastic screen, superb battery life, etc. It's perfect to me and very portable. Now what I don't understand is the complaining about how small it is and that there's no WiFi for Retro Achievements, but you're not going to aim for achievements using this tiny little device anyway, right?
Oh heck yeah. I loved using the Miyoo Mini Plus for its WiFi to play Pokemon and other games with my son.
Then going from that to the Miyoo Mini V4 that is lacking Wi-Fi is a big drawback for me. Retro Achievements was why I started using the Wi-Fi, but playing with my son is what I've used it most for.
I just purchased a plus and I'm happy it's the available one cause I think the mini is too small to be my main device, I still am glad they make them though. I think it would be cool to have a transparent blue one and just use it to play stuff like pokemon/jrpgs one handed and to have a truly ultra portable device that is still big enough to use fairly comfortably
I have the plus and trust me the mini is tiny.... too small for a daily driver
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I love the form factor of the v4. So far it looks really good to me. Onion 4.3 beta , GBA and PSX looks amazing (have to check other console) Button‘s work easy. My best small form factor device. Love it. In my collection is RG351v, DS lite, Pocket Go v2, Switch lite and GBA Advanced.
PS: Would I buy it again?
Without thinking.
I skipped on the MM+ worrying about the size being too small so I went with the 35xx instead. When I got it I was thankful I went with my gut but even then the 35xx feels a tad unconfortable, can't imagine the regular miyoo mini size tbh.
Yeah. The RG35XX and the MM+ are perfect in terms of size and form factor. Playing the games on the go is nice.
Its a bummer i also recieved the V4 but its my to go to handheld over the plus. I always took my MM+ on my commute in tokyo and loved the size and pocketability and now its even smaller, so small that I'm able to play simple games one handed on the train!
Love it, maybe i can find one of those black berry screens some people in the comments have said and do a replacement myself. Would love to get that sharp original look out of my games.
That would be a nice project. 🤔
It's a China product what do you expect? Sure the V2 might have a better screen but you're going to have to pay scalper fee for an old version of this. New ones might or might not ever get that kind of screen again. I have a newer 2.8 miyoo mini and am very happy with it but I haven't gone to the lengths of comparing colors to another system to make sure that I don't like it LOL
I'd expect a company to improve with each iteration of the device that they release, regardless of where it's from.
I didn't really start thinking about comparing the screens until my comparison of the Miyoo Mini Plus and the RG35XX. Now I can't help it. Lol
You do realize that 80% of the stuff you buy is manufactured in China right buddy?
Good review! I was planning on gifting a retro gamer friend of mine a simple retro handheld. This one does look a bit too small to comfortably play for awhile.
I will definitely have to check out your video regarding the comparison between the Miyoo Mini Plus and RG35XX as I'm really torn between those two. They both seem like good options.
Thank you! Much appreciated. I hope the comparison video helps you make a decision.
rg35xx or miyoo mini plus, much more size comfortable
2.8” screens are very cute but for actual use a 5” screen is waaay more comfortable.
I know we’re all trying to recreate our childhoods in a way and “back in the day” these devices had dogshit screens but, be an adult, buy a big beautiful screen, you’ll enjoy it more.
Didn’t know they restocked the mini till today just ordered it lol
I remember my first smartphone, it was a 2.4" LG Vue that I bought secondhand from some 3rd party cellphone recycler at a kiosk in the mall. It was all I could afford at the time. I remember taking it to another kiosk to buy a case for it and being blown away when the guy running that kiosk showed me his iPhone 3G with its massive screen at the time lol. Nowadays, I consider 3.5" to be the absolute bare minimum screen size on my electronics, and that goes especially for these retro handhelds. Anything smaller is just too much of a strain on the eyes and hands IMO.
Also, I am loving my MM Plus (which I bought because of your previous video), seriously I find myself reaching for it more than my actual Nintendo Switch lol. Keep up the great content Rudy! (feels weird to call you that when it's my name too lol)
Haha! From one Rudy to another, I appreciate it. I've been loving my experience gaming on that thing. Though I have been reaching for my Switch for Super Mario Bros. Wonder. That game is all sorts of good times.
I honestly think the V4 is the best! Screen has a better viewing angle and is sharper. Also you can charge it from a regular fast charger.
I'm in the same boat is you with wanting a miyoo mini but not getting one and getting larger handhelds instead, I ordered the v4 the first day it was available and immediately it became my favorite handheld. It is not really meant to compete with the mini plus or 35xx, it is to have a small handheld you can chuck in your pocket and not even notice and for that it is absolutely perfect. The screen to me is not noticeable at all that it isn't Pixel Perfect, only hard-core retro gaming elitists will even be able to notice tbh the screen looks fantastic imo. There is no better handheld to keep on you 100% of the time than this one.
I started with a Mini Plus with RTC chip. Ended up downsizing to the v4 because I wanted better pocketability. Only downside to the mini, for me, is that it doesn't have wifi or the RTC chip, but other than that, I prefer it over my mini plus.
Yup. Those two downsides are why I lean towards the Plus over the V4. The V4 has gotten some updates since its release and it fixed some of the issues I mentioned in the video.
You dont have to make your title like that man. It is so cute and beautiful. At this point people should already have goten all the other devices. But hey, you gota accept how cute it is. Come on man its only 58 dolla. 😊😊
the miyoo mini v4 is great, u should buy it
I'm personally not a fan. It felt like a downgrade when compared to the Miyoo Mini Plus. I'd recommend that easily over the V4.
The screen issue has been completely fixed with the new firmware. Now it looks better than a MM+ color wise, it really is fantastic now.
Durability wise, I don't see how this is any more fragile than the MM+, they both have thin bezels and use the same plastic.
I found myself being able to play on my V4 for hours withour cramps. It's all about holding it with your fingertips.
Honestly prefer the V4 over MM+. Does the same thing besides wifi and is just that more convenient on the go. The hardware is nearly identical to its bigger brother which is great.
V4 is dope now. Screen Res and colour has been fixed for a while. If you want a mini hand held it's still the Donnie
My only problem it's the form factor, I just want something "mini" but horizontal, like the old pocket go or the rg280m, Linux based focused on gaming not Android with a launcher
RG35xxh?
@@SIQmai close, but not quite yet, I've got high hopes for the miyoo mini horizontal
@@Sr.D me too 🤞🏻
RG28XX is mini and horizontal too and much better chipset than the Miyoo A30
@@Cauzmiklor and yet it's lacking the analog sticks having the space for them
Do you think this would be better for 1 handed use? Like for rpgs and or slower games?
Most definitely.
Everyone said that you could use a case meant for a deck of cards as a case for the Mini. I picked up a deck of cards and held it like I was playing a game. Uh uh. Way too small. I do have a V90 but that's different somehow. I still wouldn't want to play that for a long time.
I’m color blind so the screen issues don’t bother me as much, I have an RG35XX+, Miyoo Mini+ and soon to be a V4 owner, looking forward to it!
Legit! Enjoy. Though I will say that I enjoy the features on the MM+ much more than I do the size and form of the V4.
@@baldlyrudyI definitely have concerns about the form factor, i bought an RG280V awhile back and I feel like it'll be similar to that in terms of comfortability, but as soon as I saw that yellow colorway it was only a matter of time before I pulled the trigger on this. I still think the RG35XX+ is the best of the 4 devices available in terms of comfort, build quality, but the custom FW situation is such a mess I started looking into other handhelds available. The Miyoo MIni+'s FW options are definitely better at this point but I think RG35XX+ will catch up. I just hope Miyoo doesn't release a V5 in a month and all of these shortcomings go away (wifi, screen resolution, speaker, etc.), I feel like as soon as I get one of these handhelds they release the next iteration.
@daniel-nguyen yeah. I also hope that Miyoo will launch a model that has a better overall performance to play more powerful games. Mainly because I really, really like Onion OS. It's my favorite custom FW.
@@baldlyrudy Onion OS is great, I played around with it on the Miyoo Mini+, and coming from an RG350M with Adam image it's leaps and bounds better, being able to scrape game art directly on the device blew my mind and the ability to easily add community generated custom themes was great. It seems like all of these devices max out at about PS1/N64 with limited PSP capabilities. I think if you want something more powerful you need to be willing to pay a $150+ for devices that can reliably handle more powerful consoles, but at this form factor, would you really want to play more powerful games? I feel like the screen sizes are just too small to show that amount of information on screen for say a PS2 or Gamecube game.
Im with miyoo mini plus's on onien os 4 ,2 i tealy love it with my swich i never have im bord nothing to play naw its what do i realy want to do
love my v2, i rarely play games on it with 2 hands, i mainly use it for jrpg srpg anything turn base with 1 hand, cant beat the portablility
i understand what you mean but consider in the 80's and 90's we dit not have these many games on one system for this prise so i am not complaning it is small oke but you can take it anywhere and when you have some time to kill bro i am not complaning. but for that i would never by it from a scalper
My thoughts exactly bro. The Miyoo Mini Plus is easily available though, and plays the same.games with better battery life. Not to mention that there's WiFi for easy updates.
Nah man. It should be titled Buy this! If it’s for you. I love my v4 and plus for different reasons and don’t regret purchasing it. It may not be for you but I do see people preferring this system to others that are “more comfortable”
As a small woman with small hands, it feels great to play. I imagine if you have larger hands, probably not so much.
I'm an average man. 5'11". My hands are too big for this device. Take it as you will.
If all you want is a small handheld that plays gameboy and snes fairly well, then the Anbernic 280v is a good option and easy to get. The Miyoo Mini + is great for something that lives in your pocket, imo.
I love the Miyoo Mini Plus. It's so well done!
The v2 is the version that had a superior screen saddly luckily I got a miyoo mini v2
Not sure if you realize, but you actually ended up picking up the worst version of the Miyoo mini. The original and the V2 had absolutely phenomenal screens. Better than the mini plus even. Beautiful colors, 480p native. The reason the screen is what it is is because they ran out of the past screens. Some say the original and V2 screens were those that were used on blackberries, which tended to have small but wonderful screens.
Simply speaking, it's not the same product that it used to be. It's a significant downgrade from the v1 and V2. Honestly, I feel bad for people picking this up thinking this was the original experience. If you're on the market for this device you're much better off just picking up the Mini+ or 35XX.
In terms of build quality, yes. It will break if it drops. The original Miyoo mini is notorious for screen shattering with as little as a two-foot drop onto a carpeted floor.
Oh yes. I'm very well aware and have been wanting a V2. I just can't justify the markup. Currently, my go to is the MM+. I'm having a blast with it.
Wich Miyoo + is the best overall?
I would say the Miyoo Mini Plus is the best one.
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How did you installed Mario64 ?? 😢
It came preinstalled in the "apps" sections. 08:09
I’ve Mini V2 with Onion 4.2.3 but there isn’t any M64 in apps, can you help me? Thank a lot@@baldlyrudy
Let me know when we can charge with a standard USB-C to USB-C cable with a standard USB-C PD charger.
Unlike the older versions, the v4 has always worked with a usb-c cable using a PD charger.
I just bought the v4 to play pokemon one handed
If you like gba, the miyoo mini v4 is the best!!
It’s your video so not my business, but you could have saved a lot of time by just saying your hands are too big so for you it’s better to go with the plus or maybe a bigger device. Maybe even mentioned your hand measurements for other potential buyers.
The only reason I say this is because the small devices have the least options (because it’s difficult to make them) so it’s annoying when people say they suck because they’re small. If you don’t want a small device then it wasn’t made for you lol. Google the measurements and find an object of that approximate size before buying something where size is a factor.
Not trying to be rude, but people did this with the Funkey s as well. Of course it’s not as good as playing on a steam deck. But I can’t shove my steam deck in my pocket and play it on the toilet at work for 5 minutes a day.l or whip it out in line to get food or checkout with groceries.
Appreciate the feedback. Thanks! 🙌
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From one Rudy to another, cheers. 🍻
You know what is the biggest waste of money? The Analogue Pocket
Can't wait for mine to come in the mail. 🤣
The only reason I want one is to play Gen 3 Pokemon and other sRPGS with one hand on the subway and I don't want to risk dropping my preferred device, which is far too risky to use in that way.
Then it's well worth it for you. I'm using the Miyoo Mini Plus for playing games that I missed out on in my childhood.
Hot damn, sounds like Mini is on the menu after all. Thanks! I think I might wait to see if the next revision can reclaim some of that V2/V3 glory, though.
So it… leaves a lot to be desired?
It does leave a lot to be desired.
RG Nano with FunKeyOS is much better in every way
Really? I felt like the RG Nano was much smaller and felt uncomfortable for me by comparison.
I feel that all these handheld emulation devices we've seen over the last few years are a rip off. Every time a new one drops, its just a tad more powerful than the last giving similar results. I believe Wolfden already admitted any standard smartphone can already play these games without any problems. Just need to find a decent smartphone controller. I know what I said is highly subjective because some people do not want to tie up their phones and want a dedicated device for emulators, but have they considered getting a second hand phone instead? Far more powerful and capable. Just my two cents.🤔
For sure. That's definitely an option and there's plenty of versatility to it. I think the reason these handhelds are gaining traction and have an audience is because of their dedicated form factor with a touch of nostalgia. For sure you can slap a Backbone on a cellphone and call it a day. Heck, even some of these handhelds run Android as their OS. It all comes down to preference. Same as emulating modern day hardware vs simply owning the dedicated hardware.
@@baldlyrudy I respect that, well said. 👍👏💯
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Miyoo handhelds are impractically small imo. They look great and are cute and super pockitable, but i think most of us want a device that isn't overly uncomfortable to use, even if we don't know it. i don't have the Miyoo mini, but i don't find myself wanting to use uncomfortable devices, handhelds or otherwise. These super compact handhelds really are just novelty.
The Miyoo Mini Plus is a little tiny bit smaller than a Gameboy Pocket. It's great for me, because I missed a lot of games growing up.
Now, that RG405V is a whole other conversation. That thing is chonky.
Mini Plus is not a novelty, it's actually a great handheld where you can play all you'r retro games. It's a little bit smaller than a Gameboy Pocket, so unless you are a twat that was born in 2005, I don't see how it can be uncomfortable for you
Reviewers complaining about mini consoles being small is like complaining about a tow truck being slow...
Miyoo Mini Plus is still a better overall experience. 🤷♂️
@@baldlyrudy And?... A PC is an overall better experience than any of these handhelds. What if I want the smaller console to better carry around with me?
@RenigadeWarrior1 then get the smaller one. Lol
So didn't compare it at all to a v2 tf...click bait ass title.
Where in the title did I say I was going to compare the V4 to the V2?
It is utterly utterly utterly stupid for people in the comments to complain this device is too small. Thats like complaining MicroSD cards are to small! my gosh people just ......don't...get it. If you dont like MicroSD cards guess what? FULL size SD cards exist and if you dont like tiny almost invisible USB flash drives that dont hang out and possibly crack your usb port if you hit it by accident...they sell bigger ones that will just do that exact thing for you. Sheesh people are pathetic.
Why would someone complain about the size of the microSD card? What?
@@baldlyrudy Many have...saying its too easy too lose or those Sandisk Cruzer Fit USB Flash drives (that I absolutely love). If they have big hands let them buy the plenty of BIG flashdrives availabe. As for me I love that I can conceal these tiny flash drives.
@eijentwun5509 whatever floats your boat. 👍
I would say that the Miyoo Mini is vastly overrated today. I have a V2 myself which I got hold of for 50$... and even though I still love the device to death, It seems like the emulation handheld space has moved on. What makes the "the Mini" SO great is its genuinely small form factor, and also the beautiful 480p display, offering insane value by having cheap price point, high quality while being purposefully designed for 2D specifically (+ Playstation with d-pad focus). This is literally what was SO great about it! Today however, I think for a lot of people would appreciate the Miyoo Mini Plus more, with bigger screen, better grip, better shoulder buttons etc. What the Miyoo Mini still has is a legacy of greatness. Which forced the whole market to step up their game. However, it seems like the V4 has a 540p screen with imperfect upscaling and washed out colors. 480 upscaled unevenly to 540p, making for worse scaling than the V1-V3. So although I am happy it's here, I still think the "Plus" model is a better overall purchase to most people.
Agreed! It's funny because I saw the V4 and got really excited, but it seems like a downgrade in every way. The Miyoo Mini Plus is the way to go.
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