Ah....Imperial propaganda. According to them, Anakin died defending the Temple when the Emperor's new servant Darth Vader attacked him and the other Jedi.
vamsi krishna Kaparthi For Disney Canon, nobody. Even Darth Vader hated stormtroopers. In Legends many Sith loved their troops like Darth Malgus, Darth Angral, Darth Marr etc.
Darth Tormen cared for his troops so long as their loyalty never wavered and they never lied to him. For their part, they seemed to prefer his rational, straightforward approach to the raving crazy they might be subjected to elsewhere.
Since a Jedi secretly commissioned the clone army, I got the impression the Order accepted it only as a political decision. And kept knowledge of it being an unsanctioned act generally a secret. Likely because there were senators that thought they started the war on purpose so they could take over. The way Yoda trusted & personalized the clones in TCW was a sign of what most Jedi probably did once interacting with them. So, it makes sense many of the most suspicious Jedi survived Order 66.
While I love the Clones to death (pun), but I got to agree on Kota though. A clone army for the Galactic Republic as a gift from Sifo Deeus, who had become a Dark Jedi beforehand, would sound suspicious. Nonetheless, i’m still a fan of the Clones and feel sorry for them since they were nothing, but tools in the end.
General Coma Yeah no. Those two were just the lucky two. Most clones who chose freedom and deserted were afterwards killed by special assassination squads. No early retirement in the clone army. Or any at all. Clones didn’t have a choice. They’re the _victims_ in this story.
General Coma In theory your statement might have some merit, but reality is where it’s at. And What kind of choice is it if your only option is dying, be it as a “free” man or as a slave soldier?! Morality might demand the clones to choose death in freedom over the small chance of survival in slavery, but humans seldom act according to ethics or morals when under duress. And blaming the victim is the rock-bottom of arguing. It is not the clones’ fault, but rather the Republic’s. I believe the clones didn’t stay out of loyalty to the republic, but rather because of indoctrination, love and solidarity for their brethren and fear of the unknown. You could compare them to geese bred and raised in captivity. Even if if you open the cage, they won’t fly away because they _just don’t know any better_ . „What would the republic do about it?“ You do know that they have the Jedi Order under their control, right? The lightsaber-swinging hypocrites who „value all life“, but send what are basically child-slave-soldiers to their deaths en masse?
ViolentScorl Well if the clones dropped their guns the Republic would've simply created more obedient troopers. Like with the chip that made them carry order 66 without hesitation
he never became a Dark Jedi he was still working for the order when he was killed off the moon of Obideah and the Pykes took Valorums aide Sillman was taken prisoner he surivied the crash that Syfo Dias died in, he was sent by Chancellor Valorum himself to deal with the Pykes while before that the Jedi Concil had sent him to Felucia, it turns out that Palpatine as chancellor had sealed many of Sifo Dias files and when Yoda questioned Palps he pointed at Valorum, which is how Anakin and Obi Wan ended up on Obidiah and met Sillman still alive, by that time Palps as Sidious sent Lord Tyranus (Count Dooku) ton Obediah to retrace his steps and make sure any loose ends are eliminated, he shows up sneaking behind the 2 jedi, and force chokes Sillman before he could reveal the name he about to say, the jedi turn around and Dooku reveals himself, Lightsaber battle ensues, they battle until it leads outside at that point A Pyke Leader Minister Lonng comes out with a bunch of armed Pykes and says to Dooku "You Have No More Business Left With the Pykes, Tyranus!" at that point Obi Wan says "Wait, You are the man that's called Tyranus", then Dooku says " I Told You Everything You Needed to Know All Thise Years Ago on Geonosis, You Shouldve Joined Me, Sifo Dias saw the future, He understood, That is why he Helped me.", Obi Want then said "You Lie" looks at the Pyke Leader and says " Minister Lonng if youre going to help us the time is now" Minister Lonng then orders his PYkes to " Kill Tyranus", however Dooku/Tyranus deflects their shots killing several of them then stabbing his blade through Minister Lonngs chest, killing him, at that point many more armed Pykes come out the door as Anakin and Obi Wan approach him he is completley surrounded he then lets himself fall onto a taking off cargo ship that is coming out from the hangar below, as it pulls away Anakin is force thrown by Obi Wan to combat Dooku one last time and try and stop him, they duel, and Dooku uses his saber to cut and explode the ships right turbo ending causing it to slowly crash unto the ground as his Solar Sailor personal ship arrives and he gets away, then the 2 Jedi report their findings to the council, and at that point they All knew that lead the creation of the clone army Count Dooku did, they decided to bury the secret and work on figuring it out but didnt want to annouce their findings as the Senate and the Public would lose faith in the war effort, and make them look like fools who got duped, to save face they chose to hide it and Play the Siths Game just hoping their Undercover Work would Beat the Sith Lord to his plans completions, Whats funny about all this is, if they wouldve just revealed it, i feel like all the ORder 66 and Empire couldve been avoided..it was the Jedis own twisted hypocrisy and foolishness and worryment about political and self image that led them to their own demise , to which they all knew was coming but chose not to act quick enough or do the right thing to save face is what led them to own and the Republics downfall as a whole, for the whole Senate and Public knowing of the information wouldve been enlough to expose PAlpatine's involvement from the beginning and maybe or maybe not his identity as Darth Sidious, most likely if everyone turned against him and the Clones were given Order 65 instead of 66 then he would most likely had to use his powers to get away which would reveal him as a Sith Lord, if he does get away then he no longer has control over the Republic, but then ofcourse he still has Dooku Grevious and the Seperatists to work for him, so they will continue their war most likely and then he wouldve made so many droids the Republic would be overwhelmed a Seperatist Death Star with battle droids now instead of Stormtroopers, the Republic wouldnt last long and eventually the CIS would overwhelm them forcing even the population of the public to join the remaining Clones against the CIS the Jedi would be all over spread thin, eventually they will fall and then all the assets of Palpatines original Clone Army the new Imperial army and the Droid Army would all now work for him and the Super Empire would rule forever...with Driods Clones and Stormtroopers all their disposal everywhere..
CC-2224 Commander Cody: You turn against the dudes you fought with, friendship, or even romance with, and you kill them almost without hesitation. Good soldiers don't follow orders blindly, true good soldiers do what is wright disputed orders. 😐
Kanan wasnt blind at the time of order 66, he wasnt blinded until the end of Season 2 in Rebels and by that time he had already Met with the Older Captian Rex and became friends with him
General Coma Of course it's fictional, I wish it were real. But it was only rigged to an extent. Palp planned the battle, it was up to the armies to fight them. Clones destroyed the Jedi temple, a great achievement.
The clone wars (‘03 and ‘08 version) were both amazing Star Wars animated shows. But what makes me upset is the fact that the Jedi masters we see now as more fleshed out characters, makes you realize how sad that they went out so quick.
droids are predictable and the majority of droids are too dumb to do anything on their own the only droids that were usually smart were the commando droids
Did they ever go into whoever Master Sifo-Diyas was? "Oh, don't worry, there's no mystery here. This huge army of clone warriors? Why, they were ordered and paid for by some Jedi you never heard about, who never mentioned it to anyone else and then vanished without a trace. See, a perfectly reasonable explanation!"
We really need to get into the psychology Pong Krell. It sounds like he has a superiority complex much like Jorus C'baoth, but because he is surrounded by clones it's hard to tell if he feels the same to non-clone sentients. A Jedi values Life and defends the innocent, so I wonder how Krell developed this hatred for the clones and sent thousands to their deaths during the War.
I honestly like Luke's belief in TLJ. Explaining that the Jedi leaned too far towards the light and the Sith towards the dark, whereas with Grey Jedi (or whatever they're called in the new canon) they sit at the center. With balanced Force powers.
@@stevenschnepp576 Honestly, what does it take for people to understand that Star Wars uses the Buddhist view of balance, not the Taoist view? Balance is when the Living Force and the Cosmic Force cycle each other uninterrupted by the dark side. Rian Johnson said he consulted with Pablo Hidalgo, who is supposedly an expert on Star Wars lore, when writing TLJ. Yet somehow he left in the implication that balance requires the light and the dark to reach an equilibrium.
Love that Ave Maria playing in the background when talking about Quinlan Vos. Reminds me of his story of redemption from the dark to the light, which is what Ave Maria is all about. 💖
Awesome video! It gave me the realization how much the Jedi code to refrain from forming attachments really failed the Jedi here. It's interesting that, perhaps apart from Kanan and Kota (though I admit, I don't know much about them), most of the the clone-hating Jedi are unlikable themselves and not just because they dislike clones. Though towards other Jedi Quin-Lan was generally charismatic, Aayla often pointed out how aloof from non-Force Wielders he could become. Your video reminded me how good of a mood he seemed to be in Clone Wars, heh heh. Just goes to show how likable Cody is. ;D I also think that it wasn't necessarily the Jedi trusting the clones that was their downfall (remember that it took time for the Jedi to even see the clones as sentient people), but rather their assumption that clones were automatically loyal to them by default. Granted this was a notion the Kaminoans propagated, but it was up to the Jedi to actually try to gain the troopers' loyalty and trust, to learn from them. This is why I think we see so many failed, as evidenced in Order 66, where Jedi who succeeded, like Obi-Wan, survived. And it's a two-way street too: some clones were brought up cold-hearted and self-centered, never to believe the best in anyone, even their own brothers.
Franz Schrodinger After Disney took over they've became a legend just as my achievements... Though defeating them is possible... They use a form similiar to Jedi Mind trick.Less chances to work on the strong minds. Give them a sense of safety... Try to fool them into believing that you are the one who is fooled. Lure them into a ship, and give them a ride to the world or moon without civilization, without colonies, and finally without sencients... The fun part should have started already several hours ago on the ship, but if you are skilled enough, you will survive long enough to approach the planet or moon. Now the only challenge you have to do is bring them out of the ship, but if you have managed to lock them in your cargo bay, this won't be a problem... Once Anzat is stuck on the planet,moon without sencients, the time will do its job for you... They will starve to death... Know your enemy...
Boba Fett Actually in the cantina scene in the first movie one of them is there he’s the one claiming how he has the death sentence in six or seven systems He’s the one who tried to attack Luke and got his arm cut off by a Jedi so unlike you not getting digested the Anzat are still cannon And no one counts Disney canon at least no real fan.
To be honest they do say that it was a Jedi Master who ordered the clones to be produced in the first place, while the Jedi were suspicious upon learning this, with the fact that war was upon them, they needed all the help they could get, and so that along with how effective the clones were seemed to hold of their suspicions for the time being (at least for most Jedi).
I think that's an important thing to keep in mind. The fact that all of these close-minded and bigoted Jedi.... were right! And because of their views, all of them survived Order 66. The ones who simply blindly trusted their clone troopers, most of them ended up getting murdered by them. And it's not as though the Jedi didn't know that their troopers were programmed to be loyal to the Republic, not to the Jedi. Truth is, if you can program any creature; you can literally program them to do anything at all. Including turn on those whom they deeply respected and that respect was mutual.
1 I think they can do for more sci-fi series. And Babylon 5 is one of the greatest sci-fi series to come out of the golden age of science fiction television(1970 to 2008).
Babylon 5 really have physics invoved, intelligent plots, true actors and of course, real ship design. If you have the time needed, just give Babylon 5 a try, you wont regret.
Wow. Interesting info about Rahm Kota. I did NOT know that he was leading military forces since age 10. That’s younger than when, here on Earth, William The Conqueror started leading armies (William started in his teens).
Few of these are obvious like Rahm Kota for instance. Problem was they was too trusting. Seems basically some these people were neoJedi.. Exactly how Disney should've done it in the current movies
Almost every Jedi was taken by surprise when Order 66 was issued. Those who survived were either lucky enough to have no Clones near them (Kota) or were too powerful to take out, like Yoda and A'Sharad Hett (later Darth Krayt). Jedi could sense hatred and the urge to kill, but the Clones were given a pre-programmed order and therefore felt no hatred when gunning down their generals and sometimes even friends. Many did feel remorse afterwards, but almost no clones disobeyed the order. Disney canon had all Clones be equiped with a biochip in their brains, legends puts it down to the Clones simply being indoctrinated to follow orders to the letter from their earliest days.
Despite being a bit mean to the clones, I think Kota and Voss had some healthy skepticism. If I knew that an army of superior warriors was being mass produced, I would want to oversee every single step and nuance of the cloning process. I would want access to every single room in that facility. I think the Jedi should have focused more on at least investigating the Kaminoans. Its very naive of Obi-Wan to just be like "yep...I've got a clone army now" in AotC. And I'm surprised that Shak Ti didn't find anything amiss...especially after overseeing cloning operations for literally YEARS. If we count EU Old Republic times, we can see that the Jedi are pious beyond belief. More open-minded Jedi like Revan, Anakin, and Voss are almost always looked down upon by the rest of the Order. This is why the more military-minded Sith always seem to return.
The only two I know who hated their clones before the video begins are General Kota who saw them as being unfit for battle and relied on his own milita and General Krell who saw them as lab rats which later lead him to falling to the dark side and subsequently got him killed by the Clone Trooper Dogma.
Pong Krell might have had a good reason to hate the clones, maybe he had foreseen that the clones would betray the Jedi order just as he had foreseen the rise of the Empire
I relate to master plo koon and Jedi who wanted to treat their clones fairly but I also would hate the idea of me investing time into forming relationships with someone for them to shoot me in the back because of a graphics card in their head
This is a neat and interesting video, although I think the word "hated" is a bit too strong for most Jedi on this list. Krell was the only one who actually hated clones. Being skeptical and untrusting of clones isn't the same as hating them.
Hi Alan, in this video you alluded to something that I've noticed but haven't been able to find any more info about: the different characterisations of Quinlan Vos in Legends and Canon material. When I read the Republic comics, Vos seemed to be a very grimdark character. Last week I read Dark Disciple and his characterisation was more of a brash, almost Han-Solo-esque scoundrel. Could you possibly make a lore video investigating this disparity? Peace.
I don't know why the Jedi would be suspicious. Like Alan, the clones were perfect examples of humanity and should be given lots of likes. These four are just obviously anti-humanist. /s
Dr Tygsn Clearly he never heard or saw any of the achievements Clones pulled off like Rex, The 501st, Arc Troopers or even Delta Squad to name a few. Clones > Kota’s Militia.
Nadav Banks I hope that they do an inferno squad vs earth or Thrawn and 1000 Chiss armed to the teeth vs earth. Please do something cool like that, Allen!
Can you make a video about RKKV’s (relativistic kinetic kill vehicle) in the Star Wars universe. An example is in the Last Jedi when Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo engages FTL at Snoke’s mothership. It is the first example on screen, but has it been done before?
hi I have a question what are those blue "shields" called that are in the hangars that protect the halls from vacuum and why aren't they in the resistance bombers
I think he means more of an extended version of episode III's short jedi-killing scenes. Having many more jedi, and longer scenes for each of them before order 66 was commenced. Could probably work as a tv show more than a movie.
0:01 it was at this moment, Allan had broken the world record for amount of fan girls creaming themselves since Man Zelmerlow was the 2016 Eurovision host.
Ironically both Kanan and Kota were blinded by someone voiced by Sam Witwer.
One could argue that Kanan is just a heavily retconned version of Kota.
J3SS3 H and a significantly worse version, at that. General Kota was so cool, Kanan is a pussy who whines all the time, imo
JC Garage It's not "IMO" it's the truth
Kannan and kota barely have any similarities.
Ironic
Everyone who has watch the clone wars knew that pong krell is on this list
deadshot 500 I expected him to be #1
He wasint that bad
Yeah! And, Everyone who has watched the Rebels knew that Kanan is on this list!
deadshot 500 I thought he was going to be number 1
deadshot 500 yep
Who wants the clone wars back?
Anthony Reyes me
Sadly it won't happen due to the novels and stills counted as canon.
Darth Fenrir489 sad
Darth Fenrir489 fuck Disney
I would love to have The Clone Wars back
Did Cody just beat Obi Wan while he had The High Ground.
Definitely Not Ben, Cody is a BADASS!
is Cannon > High Ground?
Well, Obi-Wan survived, so...nope. 😝
But Anakin survived even when Obi Wan had the high ground. So I don't think survival really matters
Yup
Anakin treated his Clones well and that's why he survived before being cut down by Vader.
Ah....Imperial propaganda. According to them, Anakin died defending the Temple when the Emperor's new servant Darth Vader attacked him and the other Jedi.
It’s true, from a certain point of view.
Anakin is Vader
@@aydenmercado8474 you don't say
Anakin IS Vader he was cut up and burnt by Obi Wan and became Vader, but i get it, what you say is true FROM A CERTAIN POINT OF VIEW!!!
Sith who liked their troops
Anakin Skywalker gets the top spot on that one.
vamsi krishna Kaparthi For Disney Canon, nobody. Even Darth Vader hated stormtroopers. In Legends many Sith loved their troops like Darth Malgus, Darth Angral, Darth Marr etc.
Darth Tormen cared for his troops so long as their loyalty never wavered and they never lied to him. For their part, they seemed to prefer his rational, straightforward approach to the raving crazy they might be subjected to elsewhere.
Jedi who hated their padawans
212th attack battalion clone trooper no Jedi hated their padawans. Jedi weren't supposed to love or hate their padawans.
Since a Jedi secretly commissioned the clone army, I got the impression the Order accepted it only as a political decision. And kept knowledge of it being an unsanctioned act generally a secret. Likely because there were senators that thought they started the war on purpose so they could take over. The way Yoda trusted & personalized the clones in TCW was a sign of what most Jedi probably did once interacting with them. So, it makes sense many of the most suspicious Jedi survived Order 66.
You would think someone would look into it,
Or they did and got "Accident-ed"
I took a glance at the thumbnail for a moment and i thought I saw "4 Jedi who hated clothes."
If it were so, then the list would be all Wookiees
Except they are walking carpets.
Aayla Secura
There was a small but influential Jedi cult that venerated nudity in legends
BOI
While I love the Clones to death (pun), but I got to agree on Kota though. A clone army for the Galactic Republic as a gift from Sifo Deeus, who had become a Dark Jedi beforehand, would sound suspicious. Nonetheless, i’m still a fan of the Clones and feel sorry for them since they were nothing, but tools in the end.
General Coma Yeah no. Those two were just the lucky two. Most clones who chose freedom and deserted were afterwards killed by special assassination squads. No early retirement in the clone army. Or any at all.
Clones didn’t have a choice. They’re the _victims_ in this story.
General Coma
In theory your statement might have some merit, but reality is where it’s at.
And What kind of choice is it if your only option is dying, be it as a “free” man or as a slave soldier?!
Morality might demand the clones to choose death in freedom over the small chance of survival in slavery, but humans seldom act according to ethics or morals when under duress.
And blaming the victim is the rock-bottom of arguing. It is not the clones’ fault, but rather the Republic’s.
I believe the clones didn’t stay out of loyalty to the republic, but rather because of indoctrination, love and solidarity for their brethren and fear of the unknown. You could compare them to geese bred and raised in captivity. Even if if you open the cage, they won’t fly away because they _just don’t know any better_ .
„What would the republic do about it?“
You do know that they have the Jedi Order under their control, right? The lightsaber-swinging hypocrites who „value all life“, but send what are basically child-slave-soldiers to their deaths en masse?
ViolentScorl Well if the clones dropped their guns the Republic would've simply created more obedient troopers. Like with the chip that made them carry order 66 without hesitation
he never became a Dark Jedi he was still working for the order when he was killed off the moon of Obideah and the Pykes took Valorums aide Sillman was taken prisoner he surivied the crash that Syfo Dias died in, he was sent by Chancellor Valorum himself to deal with the Pykes while before that the Jedi Concil had sent him to Felucia, it turns out that Palpatine as chancellor had sealed many of Sifo Dias files and when Yoda questioned Palps he pointed at Valorum, which is how Anakin and Obi Wan ended up on Obidiah and met Sillman still alive, by that time Palps as Sidious sent Lord Tyranus (Count Dooku) ton Obediah to retrace his steps and make sure any loose ends are eliminated, he shows up sneaking behind the 2 jedi, and force chokes Sillman before he could reveal the name he about to say, the jedi turn around and Dooku reveals himself, Lightsaber battle ensues, they battle until it leads outside at that point A Pyke Leader Minister Lonng comes out with a bunch of armed Pykes and says to Dooku "You Have No More Business Left With the Pykes, Tyranus!" at that point Obi Wan says "Wait, You are the man that's called Tyranus", then Dooku says " I Told You Everything You Needed to Know All Thise Years Ago on Geonosis, You Shouldve Joined Me, Sifo Dias saw the future, He understood, That is why he Helped me.", Obi Want then said "You Lie" looks at the Pyke Leader and says " Minister Lonng if youre going to help us the time is now" Minister Lonng then orders his PYkes to " Kill Tyranus", however Dooku/Tyranus deflects their shots killing several of them then stabbing his blade through Minister Lonngs chest, killing him, at that point many more armed Pykes come out the door as Anakin and Obi Wan approach him he is completley surrounded he then lets himself fall onto a taking off cargo ship that is coming out from the hangar below, as it pulls away Anakin is force thrown by Obi Wan to combat Dooku one last time and try and stop him, they duel, and Dooku uses his saber to cut and explode the ships right turbo ending causing it to slowly crash unto the ground as his Solar Sailor personal ship arrives and he gets away, then the 2 Jedi report their findings to the council, and at that point they All knew that lead the creation of the clone army Count Dooku did, they decided to bury the secret and work on figuring it out but didnt want to annouce their findings as the Senate and the Public would lose faith in the war effort, and make them look like fools who got duped, to save face they chose to hide it and Play the Siths Game just hoping their Undercover Work would Beat the Sith Lord to his plans completions, Whats funny about all this is, if they wouldve just revealed it, i feel like all the ORder 66 and Empire couldve been avoided..it was the Jedis own twisted hypocrisy and foolishness and worryment about political and self image that led them to their own demise , to which they all knew was coming but chose not to act quick enough or do the right thing to save face is what led them to own and the Republics downfall as a whole, for the whole Senate and Public knowing of the information wouldve been enlough to expose PAlpatine's involvement from the beginning and maybe or maybe not his identity as Darth Sidious, most likely if everyone turned against him and the Clones were given Order 65 instead of 66 then he would most likely had to use his powers to get away which would reveal him as a Sith Lord, if he does get away then he no longer has control over the Republic, but then ofcourse he still has Dooku Grevious and the Seperatists to work for him, so they will continue their war most likely and then he wouldve made so many droids the Republic would be overwhelmed a Seperatist Death Star with battle droids now instead of Stormtroopers, the Republic wouldnt last long and eventually the CIS would overwhelm them forcing even the population of the public to join the remaining Clones against the CIS the Jedi would be all over spread thin, eventually they will fall and then all the assets of Palpatines original Clone Army the new Imperial army and the Droid Army would all now work for him and the Super Empire would rule forever...with Driods Clones and Stormtroopers all their disposal everywhere..
Why all the hate? We’re people too.
CC-2224 your allways right sir
You betrayed Obi-Wan who saved your ass countless times and just blast him without a moments hesitation.
That is why I missed it so he could live :)
CC-2224 Commander Cody: You turn against the dudes you fought with, friendship, or even romance with, and you kill them almost without hesitation. Good soldiers don't follow orders blindly, true good soldiers do what is wright disputed orders. 😐
He was forced do...
Discrimination against clones!
Palpatine: Execute order 66
Ki Adi Mundi for like 2 seconds
Kanan wasnt blind at the time of order 66, he wasnt blinded until the end of Season 2 in Rebels and by that time he had already Met with the Older Captian Rex and became friends with him
Rip to the greatest military in the Universe. Clone troopers have done what no military has ever done.
General Coma Of course it's fictional, I wish it were real. But it was only rigged to an extent. Palp planned the battle, it was up to the armies to fight them. Clones destroyed the Jedi temple, a great achievement.
Here comes the 10 year olds
Nik Name
Not the soldiers we wanted but what we needed
Never Missing Any Shot
Im going to go up to the nz government and get them to clone temaura morrison so we can have a clone army.
The clone wars (‘03 and ‘08 version) were both amazing Star Wars animated shows. But what makes me upset is the fact that the Jedi masters we see now as more fleshed out characters, makes you realize how sad that they went out so quick.
Clone who hated their jedi commanders
Xavier Jones Bly
Neo, Baraca, and alsoBly
Quinlan Gauna No Bly got along well with Aayla Secura.
Xavier Jones Pretty much every clone at Umbara.
General Coma What’s your source?
This why I use droids.
So uncivilised!
General Grievous so you use yourself, you over glorified droid.
A cyborg rather
Hello there
droids are predictable and the majority of droids are too dumb to do anything on their own the only droids that were
usually smart were the commando droids
Did they ever go into whoever Master Sifo-Diyas was?
"Oh, don't worry, there's no mystery here. This huge army of clone warriors? Why, they were ordered and paid for by some Jedi you never heard about, who never mentioned it to anyone else and then vanished without a trace. See, a perfectly reasonable explanation!"
They did in clone wars season six
Steve Jimmy Ah, thanks. Guess I'll have to hunt down a copy of the series
tba113 if you have Netflix it's there
Well, he didn't vanish, he died
Actually, Quinlan's tattoos in Legends were cultural. They displayed that he was a human subspecies known as the Kiffar.
We really need to get into the psychology Pong Krell. It sounds like he has a superiority complex much like Jorus C'baoth, but because he is surrounded by clones it's hard to tell if he feels the same to non-clone sentients. A Jedi values Life and defends the innocent, so I wonder how Krell developed this hatred for the clones and sent thousands to their deaths during the War.
I honestly like Luke's belief in TLJ. Explaining that the Jedi leaned too far towards the light and the Sith towards the dark, whereas with Grey Jedi (or whatever they're called in the new canon) they sit at the center. With balanced Force powers.
I see you don't understand Star Wars any better than Disney does.
@@stevenschnepp576 Honestly, what does it take for people to understand that Star Wars uses the Buddhist view of balance, not the Taoist view? Balance is when the Living Force and the Cosmic Force cycle each other uninterrupted by the dark side. Rian Johnson said he consulted with Pablo Hidalgo, who is supposedly an expert on Star Wars lore, when writing TLJ. Yet somehow he left in the implication that balance requires the light and the dark to reach an equilibrium.
Love that Ave Maria playing in the background when talking about Quinlan Vos. Reminds me of his story of redemption from the dark to the light, which is what Ave Maria is all about. 💖
Awesome video! It gave me the realization how much the Jedi code to refrain from forming attachments really failed the Jedi here. It's interesting that, perhaps apart from Kanan and Kota (though I admit, I don't know much about them), most of the the clone-hating Jedi are unlikable themselves and not just because they dislike clones. Though towards other Jedi Quin-Lan was generally charismatic, Aayla often pointed out how aloof from non-Force Wielders he could become. Your video reminded me how good of a mood he seemed to be in Clone Wars, heh heh. Just goes to show how likable Cody is. ;D
I also think that it wasn't necessarily the Jedi trusting the clones that was their downfall (remember that it took time for the Jedi to even see the clones as sentient people), but rather their assumption that clones were automatically loyal to them by default. Granted this was a notion the Kaminoans propagated, but it was up to the Jedi to actually try to gain the troopers' loyalty and trust, to learn from them. This is why I think we see so many failed, as evidenced in Order 66, where Jedi who succeeded, like Obi-Wan, survived. And it's a two-way street too: some clones were brought up cold-hearted and self-centered, never to believe the best in anyone, even their own brothers.
Did Obi-Wan Kenobi’s mount survive the fall on Utapau or do me and my men need to finish that of as well
212th attack battalion clone trooper Boga survived as well.
Well, waddya know...
212th attack battalion clone trooper
I F***ing love these people’s names
She died in the book.
Guardian Stalker your right
That is why jedi are also hated by the public,they just find everyone useless.
jboweruk And that is why they fail... They don't take us non-force sensivitives as a real threat...
Darth Vader Is this coming from the guy who strangled his own wife and killed a bunch of children
Boba Fett You still failed against windu child And as an assassin you are nothing against a true monster like an Anzat
Franz Schrodinger After Disney took over they've became a legend just as my achievements... Though defeating them is possible... They use a form similiar to Jedi Mind trick.Less chances to work on the strong minds. Give them a sense of safety... Try to fool them into believing that you are the one who is fooled. Lure them into a ship, and give them a ride to the world or moon without civilization, without colonies, and finally without sencients... The fun part should have started already several hours ago on the ship, but if you are skilled enough, you will survive long enough to approach the planet or moon. Now the only challenge you have to do is bring them out of the ship, but if you have managed to lock them in your cargo bay, this won't be a problem... Once Anzat is stuck on the planet,moon without sencients, the time will do its job for you... They will starve to death... Know your enemy...
Boba Fett Actually in the cantina scene in the first movie one of them is there he’s the one claiming how he has the death sentence in six or seven systems He’s the one who tried to attack Luke and got his arm cut off by a Jedi so unlike you not getting digested the Anzat are still cannon And no one counts Disney canon at least no real fan.
To be honest they do say that it was a Jedi Master who ordered the clones to be produced in the first place, while the Jedi were suspicious upon learning this, with the fact that war was upon them, they needed all the help they could get, and so that along with how effective the clones were seemed to hold of their suspicions for the time being (at least for most Jedi).
I think that's an important thing to keep in mind. The fact that all of these close-minded and bigoted Jedi.... were right! And because of their views, all of them survived Order 66. The ones who simply blindly trusted their clone troopers, most of them ended up getting murdered by them. And it's not as though the Jedi didn't know that their troopers were programmed to be loyal to the Republic, not to the Jedi. Truth is, if you can program any creature; you can literally program them to do anything at all. Including turn on those whom they deeply respected and that respect was mutual.
I just saw the Title and thought: when Pong Krell isn’t on this list I’m going to use my youngling slayer 9000
Real size of Babylon 5 starships please.
Barry Bend why are you always saying that and what is Babylon 5
1 I think they can do for more sci-fi series. And Babylon 5 is one of the greatest sci-fi series to come out of the golden age of science fiction television(1970 to 2008).
Well said
Babylon 5 really have physics invoved, intelligent plots, true actors and of course, real ship design. If you have the time needed, just give Babylon 5 a try, you wont regret.
We live for the one, we die for the one.
Wow. Interesting info about Rahm Kota. I did NOT know that he was leading military forces since age 10. That’s younger than when, here on Earth, William The Conqueror started leading armies (William started in his teens).
Love the Back Stories.
Congrats on 200k,been here since 500 subs.
Scraggy been here since 100 you don’t have to believe me but it’s true
"A boy? Months of attacking Imperial targets and Vader sends a boy to fight me?"
Great vid GenTech. Glad you included Kota on this list.
Few of these are obvious like Rahm Kota for instance. Problem was they was too trusting.
Seems basically some these people were neoJedi.. Exactly how Disney should've done it in the current movies
@@callumwright7459 I didn't like him for killing that surrendering stormtrooper, but his world view was on point about the clones
Almost every Jedi was taken by surprise when Order 66 was issued. Those who survived were either lucky enough to have no Clones near them (Kota) or were too powerful to take out, like Yoda and A'Sharad Hett (later Darth Krayt). Jedi could sense hatred and the urge to kill, but the Clones were given a pre-programmed order and therefore felt no hatred when gunning down their generals and sometimes even friends. Many did feel remorse afterwards, but almost no clones disobeyed the order. Disney canon had all Clones be equiped with a biochip in their brains, legends puts it down to the Clones simply being indoctrinated to follow orders to the letter from their earliest days.
Rebels Feb 19, more rex and Kanan arguments!
Ayla Sakira was suspicious of her clones but she was still kind to them and treated them with respect. But she knew there was something off about them
not blind enough you say hmm?
"Lose your Eyes, Save Your Lives!" (put it on a shirt)
Rip that lizard that who obi wan was riding second saddest scene
Despite being a bit mean to the clones, I think Kota and Voss had some healthy skepticism. If I knew that an army of superior warriors was being mass produced, I would want to oversee every single step and nuance of the cloning process. I would want access to every single room in that facility. I think the Jedi should have focused more on at least investigating the Kaminoans. Its very naive of Obi-Wan to just be like "yep...I've got a clone army now" in AotC. And I'm surprised that Shak Ti didn't find anything amiss...especially after overseeing cloning operations for literally YEARS.
If we count EU Old Republic times, we can see that the Jedi are pious beyond belief. More open-minded Jedi like Revan, Anakin, and Voss are almost always looked down upon by the rest of the Order. This is why the more military-minded Sith always seem to return.
When i saw the title i instantly knew that Pong Krell will be on the list lol.
Quinlan Vos is one of my top 10 favorite jedies, too bad clon wars season 7 was canceled and then cut to half a d we wont see what happened with him.
The only two I know who hated their clones before the video begins are General Kota who saw them as being unfit for battle and relied on his own milita and General Krell who saw them as lab rats which later lead him to falling to the dark side and subsequently got him killed by the Clone Trooper Dogma.
Poor Caleb
Dex hated his clones... uh I mean pong krell
Pong Krell might have had a good reason to hate the clones, maybe he had foreseen that the clones would betray the Jedi order just as he had foreseen the rise of the Empire
Even Laudal Breivik, but he wanted to join that order so he should like the clones.
TheAllPowerfulChicken But when he joined the order the clones wasn’t created yet
I meant that he wanted the join the Empire and that he shouldn't have hated the clones because they wee the ones who made the Empire.
Ok that makes more sense, and it is a good point
When the dark side found me... I have seen everything
I relate to master plo koon and Jedi who wanted to treat their clones fairly but I also would hate the idea of me investing time into forming relationships with someone for them to shoot me in the back because of a graphics card in their head
Yeah
No
"She was lying." Jesus man. thats cold.
Can you do a video on the mighty Yuuzhan Vong empire in Legends?
And the two Droid empires that caused chaos in their home galaxy.
I can't wait for the grryssk to be expanded upon in canon. they are the replacement for the vong, and were created by timothy zahn himself
Regretful that Rahm Kota is no longer Canon he made a total bad ass like Quinlan Vos
I wish Master Kota was Canon. I think he'd be killed by Vader or an Inquisitor
Tarlo The Boar don't doubt koda
Wish Starkiller was canon...
man i really have warmed up to this guys voice. great presenter and great content
Pong krell vs general grevious
This is a neat and interesting video, although I think the word "hated" is a bit too strong for most Jedi on this list. Krell was the only one who actually hated clones. Being skeptical and untrusting of clones isn't the same as hating them.
No, Kanan hated the clones too
Cool vid 👍🏽
I like how he’s just so casual but knows his stuff
Happy 200k
Hi Alan, in this video you alluded to something that I've noticed but haven't been able to find any more info about: the different characterisations of Quinlan Vos in Legends and Canon material. When I read the Republic comics, Vos seemed to be a very grimdark character. Last week I read Dark Disciple and his characterisation was more of a brash, almost Han-Solo-esque scoundrel. Could you possibly make a lore video investigating this disparity? Peace.
Yas
Can you explain us the chrushgaunts, they seem so useful for certain situations. Besides they're amazing.
I don't know why the Jedi would be suspicious. Like Alan, the clones were perfect examples of humanity and should be given lots of likes. These four are just obviously anti-humanist. /s
Jonathan Schmidt perfect examples of humanity?
Dante McMahon. Thanks, forgot the "/s"
Cloning is so ethically unsound
Jonathan Schmidt I just clicked the vid so I don't know if Rahm Kota is in this but he saw them not fit compared to his militia
Dr Tygsn Clearly he never heard or saw any of the achievements Clones pulled off like Rex, The 501st, Arc Troopers or even Delta Squad to name a few. Clones > Kota’s Militia.
Hi allen and de boys i just want to tell you that i love these videos!
Btw i wanna know whats your upload schedule
So when is the next earth vs Star Wars coming out
Nadav Banks I hope that they do an inferno squad vs earth or Thrawn and 1000 Chiss armed to the teeth vs earth. Please do something cool like that, Allen!
Already liked cause I knew it was already gonna be great. You're my favorite allen!!
It’s My Birthday 😆,also nice vid
Can you make a video about RKKV’s (relativistic kinetic kill vehicle) in the Star Wars universe. An example is in the Last Jedi when Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo engages FTL at Snoke’s mothership. It is the first example on screen, but has it been done before?
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Not going to lie, he had us in the first part
Hmmm. Interesting
Can you do a video on the Clones(Republic) vs Stormtroopers(Empire) ?
Hi. I like turtles
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Those 4 Jedi when Order 66 came: This is where the fun begins
Hi
We can't all be popular.
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Love the sarcasm
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Imagine if Krell still lives.
Clones were fine my me before order 66 becaose they did death sticks with me
Wow didn't know that much about Kanan before this video
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4:34 what episode is that
Notifications squad were u atttttt
hi I have a question what are those blue "shields" called that are in the hangars that protect the halls from vacuum and why aren't they in the resistance bombers
Like if you agree we should have a Jedi purge movie!
episode 3?
TheWakkaSquad he means like Vader killing the Jedi that survived order 66
I think he means more of an extended version of episode III's short jedi-killing scenes. Having many more jedi, and longer scenes for each of them before order 66 was commenced. Could probably work as a tv show more than a movie.
There were a lot of blind jokes in this video, I didn’t see coming.
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NO GOD PLEASE NO NO NOOOOOOOO
Awesome Video!!!
Shit I’m early am I first
The Legendary Gonk Droid No sadly you ain't first
The Legendary Gonk Droid do not cus
Dang
It's coll seeing order 66 from canan jarus's point of view in the bad batch
Could you do a video on the most peaceful planets in the Star Wars universe? Besides alderaan because you know .. destroyed
you forgot Quinlan Vos power that psychotemetry thing? it made interacting with clonse a tad odd.
Great video
I want to see a Pong Krell vs General Grievous fan animation.
TRIGGERED
Go to 3:01, the Jedi getting in to the gunship, his lightsaber drags across the surface of it and bounces off the gunships deck
I remember how PROXY said Kota hated his clones and used militia.
0:01 it was at this moment, Allan had broken the world record for amount of fan girls creaming themselves since Man Zelmerlow was the 2016 Eurovision host.