Arc Trooper Null No. Why does every little thing have to be made into spinoff movie? There's already tons of lore that humanize clones so what's the point of a film?
The Sam it's a good question, but I last watched the series a year ago. I remember the good bits rather than the bad. There were some episodes I was 'so-so' with, but I can't give you any details, my apologies.
The Sam it's funny you ask the question as I've almost finished re-watching the earlier Tartakovsky Clone Wars and I'm planning on then going back and watching sequel to this series.
Beginning of the War: Alright! We finally get to see some action and scrap some clankers! All while being led by the legendary jedi. End of the War: Really, the jedi is ordering another frontal charge? Ugh, I wish I could just shoot that incompetent; hold on, I'm getting a phone call.
@@z-man1237 eh depends how you died. vehicle crash, explosives, falling, being crushed, eaten, set on fire, sucked into space, etc. Also, "...screaming or the blood..." doesn't necessarily mean literal blood. Can also be metaphorical for the massive death tolls in the clone wars
Cat mandu Well the trooper meant “the blood” during geonosis where they were fighting droids and getting shot at, is what I meant🙂. But yeah you’re right about that to.
Many of the good characters where butchered . For example in legends General Grievous was a force of nature that the only general who could possibly defeat him in a duel or a battle was Kenobi . His past was also better in legends . He was a kaleesh general who fought for his people but the republic with the support of the jedi forced him and his people to leave their planet and forced them to cut contact with the rest of galaxy which started the famine of the kaleesh people . After years they had permission to return to their former planet but general grievous' ship exploded by a time bomb of the separatists and he was heavily injured. Count Duku resurrected him and told him that the Jedi tried to kill him . He also said that if Grievous accepted his cybernetics , his people will get the support of the banking clan to survive the famine and return to their normal life . Grievous was forced to accept . WHY they changed this story ? WHY ?
I wouldn't call Jango a narcissist, he was only following the advice of Roz as she was dying. Have a kid, move on from the life of bounty hunting. That's what he did, but do you think a man who went from a farm boy on Concord Dawn, to a mandalorian supercommando, MANDALORE HIMSELF, and then a notorious and despised bounty hunter, would be willing to endanger a woman and make her a target for thugs and people trying to get revenge on him? Boba was his way to have a kid and not get attached to a woman, it wasn't narcissism, it was his way of actually protecting himself and someone else, from needlessly being killed if someone decided to come looking for family (And scumbags will do that, they don't go after the person that wronged them, they go after that person's family, because the only way to exact revenge is to take something away from them that they cherish.) With Jango, all he has is Boba, and just like Jaster trained Jango, Jango raised Boba until he was killed. This in turn made Boba mirror his father in that he also couldn't really fall in love with someone for very long. They're not narcissists, they're just not emotionally equipped to settle down. They at least tried though.
What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word.
With the fall of Coruscant and the elimination of the traitorous Jedi, Palpatine's rise to power was complete. In recognition of our service and loyalty to the Emperor, the 501st were placed under the direct command of Lord Vader. Armed with deadly new weapons, blazing new ships, and shining new armor, our presence let the galaxy know that the days of the Old Republic were well and truly over. We were establishing a new era: An era of order and peace.
The 501st Journal will always be my first step into the humanisation of the Clones and Stormtroopers for me. Seeing that the faceless men i played as and watched charge into battle were just as human as the commanders who lead them to their deaths.
when mandalorians are habitual adoptionists it would be very hard for him NOT to be a mandalorian. anyone a clan feels worthy can be adopted into a mandalorian family and become a mandalorian themselves what ever their race. the whole Jango isnt a Mando probably comes from his armour. Jango's armour was plasteel not beskar'gam to cut down the weight
They didn't have the mind of a 9 year old though. Yes they were technically 9, but just like their bodies their brains developed fully into adulthood which means they had the mental faculties of an 18 year old even though they were only alive 18.
A: Wanting to have a son is not narcissistic. If you read the Bounty Hunter books you'd see how much Jango cares for his son. B: Jango wasn't just an actual Mandolorian, he was given the title of Mandalore, leader of all Mandalorians, before the Jedi wiped out most if the True Mandalorians warriors and Satine was allowed to usurp Mandalore. Jango is the exact opposite of a narcissistic psycopath.
Um.... You're kinda mixing Legends and Canon here. Especially the Jedi involved. In Canon, only Obi-wan and Qui-gon were there. In Legends, it was Dooku, his padawan, and 18 unnamed Jedi.
James Jacobs The thing making Boba being Jango‘s son narcissist was the fact that it was literally a child-version of himself. As in „I love myself so much, I can only raise a miniature of myself as a son“. Or that’s what Generation Tech‘s reasoning was, anyway.
Mandalorians are a heterogeneous immigrant society. They are arguably the more progressive in accepting others (outsiders) to be inducted among their culture and people than our own modern immigrant nation cultures. If you become a citizen in these people are called labeled as ___-American or _____-Canadian. In Mandalor they just call you Mandalorian. That is far more progressive than us. That means Jango is a Mandalorian regardless. He might not be a native under out world's rules of classification but to Mandalorians he is in fact Mandalorian. They have a different thought process and cultural views than ours regarding immigrants how they become inducted in as a member of their society. They view the word Mandalorians as a title of a culture and what you are suppose to live up too and not a name of a ethnic group. You could argue it can be best described being Mandalorian is like a exclusive club. Members either have to be born into it or invited to be accepted in. (You may ask a member to help you learn how to go through the cultural tradition to invited in and accepted. They however are still very strict.)
It still doesn't disprove the fact they'll still allow of those people of the ethnic group they slaughtered to still be within their group, though. Tarre Vizsla was a Mandalorian and a Jedi. (Mandalorians slaughtered Jedi and etc.) I am not discrediting how messed up it is or any wrong doing they do. I am pointing out they really do have a different cultural mindset and way of thinking than we have regarding the concept of national ethnicity, at least for their own cultural nation. It's more pourous. In our world we focus on race and place of birth for nationality. Apparently Mandalorians follow a different set of rules. They leave out race and species out all together. This was the same for the Taung that gave birth to the culture. This means they focus more on where you are born, bloodline (Are one of your ancestors a Mandalorian or got inducted inducted in? If so you are part of the ethnic group), or you went through the process of becoming inducted in as their society as a member if you are a foreigner. This means anyone can be accepted in as a Mandalorian.
J Nice legends originally had him be Mando but George Lucas changed that with the Clone Wars and so in new Canon the only information on Jango's mandoness is a line by a Death Watch aligned leader in TCWs. Still easy to make him mando once more.
Draco Eris I’m confused is legends the new canon or the old canon? I like some of the new stuff but I like the old stuff more because well, it was already established and almost nothing wrong with it....
Is it canon that Jango isn't mandalorian? I thought that was just the new peaceful mandalorian government disavowing and condemning him for his actions.
Nicholas Czernek he's from Concord Dawn, a planet in the Mandalorian system. He's been disavowed by most mandalorians due to their value of honor and his extremely immoral actions.
He is I used to own one of the official movie breakdown annuals for attack of the clones and states he’s a disowned mandalorian but i kinda like the legends version of Jango
Tom Ives I might be wrong but I seriously doubt most Mandalorians disavowed him. Most New Mandalorians would, but that’s a pacifist faction, a splinter of Mandalorian culture. Jango was Mandalore of the True Mandalorians and hand picked to succeed their founder. Bounty hunting and mercenary work isn’t necessarily wrong to True Mandalorians and before the Mandos splintered they were seen as pretty normal professions.
ViolentScorl That and they never bothered to add anything for Jango after that. (the Boba plot to kill Mace Windu doesn’t count since Jango was already dead)
Its alleged that the next film has a planet in the unknown regions where slaves are building weapons for the FO. Why hide a arms business? You wouldn't....unless.... Oh goody its a Super Death Star Killer Base Destroyer Mk.4.v2 WOOHOO! Well I guess we now know what Lando will be doing.
Dis-interesting? Not if you have never seen Rogue One, A New Hope, Return of the Jedi, or The Force Awakens. So Rian Johnson should love it! Perhaps this time, instead of a Star being consumed by a Planet, they will go with fitting engines to a Star that brings Death to Planets. Lets see the Rebel Scum destroy that with a pew pew fighter. We could name it.....The Death Star?
Looks like a Apple store, lol. I never thought about it much before, but Camino was a very sterile looking environment. They really could have used Sabine as an interior decorator. I bet she could have painted the walls some really bright and cheerful colors and either brightened up the moods of the clones or sent them off the deep end.
That video was beautiful. I love listening to you talk star wars because you put actual rational military thought into your assessments. This discussion about Clone Troopers makes me think about my own military service and my own growth through those years. Awesome video
I loved the now non-canon republic commando novels because it painted clones as real people. And basically the republic as grey at best, if not the ones in the wrong, and shined light on the absolute absurdity of some Jedi teachings. Those books will always be my staple for Star Wars: gritty, realistic, morally grey.
Makes you think that maybe Palpatene was right and the empire were the good guys ... besides the Death Star and the ships that emphasize big guns and the poorly equipped fighters with highly experienced pilots
In a lot of ways, a clone trooper is a lot like a Jedi Padawan. They're both indoctrinated ideally from birth in the philosophies of their respective organizations. One thing that can be said about the mind of a child is that it is absolute. There are no gray areas with the mind of a child and with that comes the potential for infinite kindness or cruelty. It could even be said that the clone troopers were treated worse than slaves. They were treated like droids. The existence of the Clone Army makes the Droid activist from Solo all the more silly. If the Republic didn't care about the rights of people( cloned or otherwise) why then would the Empire care about droids?
Mike Vasquez not really. Clones are engineered and worked on from embryo state. Remember? They insert the inhibitory chip in the 3rd development stage. The jedi younglings are just taken to the temple when they are of age. Sure, they are worked on, and modified by the force, but it's not the same as the clones. The Clone Army is basically a GMO chicken farm and the jedi order is a high end private school.
I really love your analysis on CW lore. Some people always just bullshit parts of their videos, or misinterpret things, but you actually see things how they are. I also love the appreciation shown for some Legends material. One correction I have to make is that the first Battalions of Clone Troopers was 10 years old when they were first deployed on Geonosis, but this doesn't really change your facts at all.
Alan, really enjoy all of your videos. You are informative and entertaining. I was wondering if you would do a video about what would happen if a clone star destroyer had a mishap and somehow crashed on a planet populated by a low tech race. Cut off from the republic and then the empire. How do you think their new world would do? I mean they are genetically the best warriors. Thus, would they dominate the other race either accidentally (providers) or purposely (for the greater good). Or you could split the video into time spans like the first ten years, the second ten years and so on. Would be fascinating and fun "what if". Another interested idea would have been to have a Jedi on-board who is critically wounded. He/She finds surprisingly that one of the clones takes her away from the crash. In the one year before he/she dies they teach the clone what it is like to be a Jedi. The clone understands some and we find that he takes on the mantel of the Jedi. But mixes in his own clone feelings and opinions. Would love to see this video.
Jango is a real Mandalorian any that say otherwise speak false truths. Especially to those pacifists cowards who slandered the name Mandalorian during the clone wars.
Jango wasn't a narcissistic psychopath. He had a big heart deep down as we can see his care for his son in the movies. Jango was also a Mandalorian, he was part of a mandalorian clan. He was born as a farmboy and lived with his parents and sister before they were killed by the deathwatch and Jango was saved by another mandalorian clan and became the adopted son of the leader. What evidence is there to say Jango was ever psycho. Its clear that Jango and Boba were neutral. The people that said Jango was a pyscho were the Kaminoins when they were covering up the inhibitor chips. Almec said Jango was a pretender to coverup his own scheme. In conclusion, Jango was just a simple man trying to make his way in the universe. I'm disappointed Alec.
Broba Jett I blame Lucas for throwing Jango’s legacy out the window while ordering Filoni and Hidalgo to say “Oh Jango only stole some armor and isn’t a Mando.” And I thought Grievous got screwed over in the new Canon.
@@patrickc1193 Grevious was super fucked in rots and the clone wars. His entrance in the original clone wars cartoon was his only true form imo. But yeah the bounty hunter game and legends comics on Jango Fett explain how much of a true mandalorian he is and how much he values the culture and honor despite being a bounty hunter. Same with Boba as he followed the same code at heart and often in the clone wars we see Boba is conflicted between true justice and his personal ambitions which seperates him from other bounty hunters. Like when Plo Koon and Hondo tried to get kid Boba to tell them where Aurra singh was running off to with the hostages. Its easy to make the Fetts look like cold blooded killers because of the job they chose and how threatening they look. The truth is that both Jango and Boba had a lot of character and reasons to choose bounty hunting and its because they want to take justice into their own hands since one of the most clear problems in star wars is a power struggle and a lack of a strong government at times.
I just realize, Luminara was with Yoda in the battle of Kashykk, did Yoda left the planet without Luminara? Didn’t Yoda attempt to rescue Luminara when Order 66 executed in the midst of battle?
Captain Rex so Yoda forsake Luminara? Thats kinda bad if Yoda didn’t think of rescuing Luminara cause they were like near to each other... they didn’t even made a scene how that happened
SquirrelsRockify Which sucks because not only was Legends Jango awesome, but he had numerous accomplishments and character. Canon? Aside from Attack of the Clones and getting a few references here and there along with Boba’s plot to kill Mace, there’s nothing about Jango and it’s a shame.
One thing that always made me love the clones above all other soldiers In the Star Wars universe, was their undying loyalty, and the and the fact that they carried out order 66 was no fault of their own but in reality mind control. But what really showed The loyalty of the clone troops was demonstrated by fives, the moment the control chip was out he effectively was a free clone, and the very first thing he wanted to do uninfluenced by anything else but his own will was to warn his brothers and the Jedi order of the coming threat, not only that but later after Rex removed his he also refused order 66 and went more or less in to rebellion to protect Ashoka, in both cases it showed that without the chips the clones during order 66 would’ve probably sided with the Jedi against the Emperor and most probably even against the Senate.
Whatching this made me loves clones even more all the while seeing them in a different understanding of them.... now when I’m watching TCW I’ll be paying attention on the attitude difference throughout the seasons
Generation Tech please make a theory video about what if obi wan kenobi left the jedi order to be with Duchess Satine after his padawan mission to protect her.
Uh, Jango was indeed a Mandalorian, and fought against Death Watch with the true Mandalorians until his allied were all killed. Also at first he did not want to be the clone template, but Dooku offered him an extrodinary amount of money, plus the knowledge that the clones were really designed for Order 66. Jangi wanted a son because it's something he otherwise could never have, because of his lifestyle.
This is why I love The Clone Wars animated series so much. Not only is it one of the last pieces of original Star Wars content we have and still gritty and real, but it delves into the complexity of these clone troopers and just how badass, but also just human they are. Barring episode one, it's my only real complaint with Episodes I-III, how poorly represented the Clones were.
9:30 "the clones who survived up to this time were very different than the chinese that marched in to geonosis" - thoughts of a military historian regarding the end of the korean war
You should totally do a video that would go over the little fixes and changes that could of been made to better help the clones and get rid of their flaws.
jango was a mandalorian he was tooken in by the leader mandalor him self in the comics and even became mandalor his self after the leaders death so he was given the armor and didn't steal it smh I like that story since he seemed to be more of a mandalorian rather than just some human and mandaloroans in most comics are of other species that had the same beliefs
This is why I loved Republic Commando... Kal Skirata saw the clones as an admiral form of what the Mandalorians once represented and stood for so he began to show compassion to every clone that fell during the war.... And even had a memorial built with ever dogtag that the clones carried
I really enjoyed the Clone Commando book series, especially around Order 66. What I liked most about the commandos is that while growing more independent and obeying their trainers more than their Jedi generals, there were still Jedi that they respected - and even with varying degrees (they respected those that fought alongside them more than the - for lack of a better term - armchair generals). By the fifth book, it was easy to see how and why each clone had developed their own views of the Jedi, the war, and the galaxy in general.
1:20 Excuse me but what are you on about? Jango Fett was adopted by Jaster Mereel after his family was killed by the Death Watch. This isn’t like a normal adoption. This is a Mandalorian adoption (“Family is more than bloodline” remember that?) anyways due to that adoption Jango is Mandalorian, not everyone is born a Mandalorian because you can adopt the culture as your own no matter where you came from, even some Jedi became Mandalorian and the Mandalorians hated Jedi. No Mandalorian except the dik’utla Death Watch would say Fett wasn’t Mando’ade and they’re complete scum. So I’m afraid to say you’re wrong there.
Jango is basically a mandalorian. His home was pillaged by them as a child, his birth parents were killed. For some reason that chose to take him in, that’s where he was raised.
My only problem is yes they are only nine years old but like you said they were aged twice as fast and brain growth effects how you act, a normal nine year old ask that way because their brain is still growing and developing.
Naivety is not something that is not just a symptom of the Young. It is a symptom of deliberately withholding information from an individual or individuals.
IMO the control chip is a stupid idea, and I wish it never came up. I have no idea if it came from official star wars or not, but I remember reading that Order 66 is an internal clone trooper policy that they were all ready for, and meant that they had been betrayed by the jedi. Seeing as a lot of the jedi treated them like trash, I don't think they'd have a hard time believing that.
You say a lot about them being 9 year olds but they aren’t. Yes, they have the experience of a 9 year old but a 9 year old isn’t capable of abstract thought because their brains haven’t physically developed. A clone’s brain is fully developed to that of an 18 year old. They just have much less experience than an adult soldier.
what do you mean he's not a real Mandalorian? he was born on a Mandalorian world, raised by Mandalorian, trained as a Mandalorian. If it walks like Mandalorian and talks like a Mandalorian it's a duck.
I have been watching these videos for a while now and I looked down to like it and then I saw that I wasn't subscribed and I was thinking. "Why am I not subscribed?" (In the end I did subscribe)
The Clones before the War: *"Alright! We're gonna scrap some clankers and it'll just be like the training drills and simulations!"* The Clones after the War: *"I saw thousands of my brothers die in hellish conditions being led by a Jedi who literally viewed us as living droids and ordered us into suicidal charges. Good thing Order 66 came through"*
Jack's Echo Ignore the idiotic Filoni/Disney versions and look up „Jango Fett: Open Seasons“, then follow it up by reading the Republic Commando novels. A million times better than anything the bull-headed idiots now in charge of Star Wars could ever come up with.
Jason Skeans Why should I care for what a group of money-crazed businessmen dictate as canon and what not? I prefer the _good_ stories, thank you very much.
A brilliant summation of what can and does happen in real wars, as history shows time and again. Stalin's attitude of callousness towards his own soldiers was a real analog to the Republic's view of its clone warriors. The only difference being that the Republic didn't have its version of NKVD troops shooting retreating clones; the clones, themselves, were expected to police their own and deal with deserters.
The best way at the difference in the efficiency of the close at First Battle of Geonosis and Camino Rebellion during the reign of the Empire in Star Wars Legends.
Before: "Just like the simulations!"
After: "This is nothing like the simulations..."
"there's a four armed lightsaber wielding cyborg with tuberculosis running around killing all my brothers, this is nothing like the simulations"
Before: Sector is clear.
After: NOT CLEAR! NOT CLEAR!
"sector not clear not clear!!!"
simulations:shoot some f00king clankers and grab a flag.
reality:hope u purchased our DLC $670 main character armor
Black Commandments of course
Anybody else just want a war movie with the clones in it? Maybe a Jedi General?
no
Yes
maybe
Arc Trooper Null No. Why does every little thing have to be made into spinoff movie? There's already tons of lore that humanize clones so what's the point of a film?
a film just makes it better
The Clone Troopers was one of the best things to come out of The Clone Wars series!
Agreed
The Sam it's a good question, but I last watched the series a year ago. I remember the good bits rather than the bad. There were some episodes I was 'so-so' with, but I can't give you any details, my apologies.
The Sam it's funny you ask the question as I've almost finished re-watching the earlier Tartakovsky Clone Wars and I'm planning on then going back and watching sequel to this series.
well... I cant argue with your logic.
The Sam the new episodes
Beginning of the War: Alright! We finally get to see some action and scrap some clankers! All while being led by the legendary jedi.
End of the War: Really, the jedi is ordering another frontal charge? Ugh, I wish I could just shoot that incompetent;
hold on, I'm getting a phone call.
More like PTSD.
WAKE ME UP, WAKE ME INSIDE
Do you hear that is that * CCR FORTUNATE SON PLAYS
During the war: WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS!
Sith: Commander Cody the time has come Execute Order 66! Cody: yes my Lord. BLAST HIM.!
Justafan IV lol
“...All that breeding, all those years of training... it doesn’t really prepare you for all the screaming or the blood does it?...”
65Bailey1995 I really wish they would’ve made a second season that shit was great
By blood you mean circular scorch marks?
@@z-man1237 eh depends how you died. vehicle crash, explosives, falling, being crushed, eaten, set on fire, sucked into space, etc. Also, "...screaming or the blood..." doesn't necessarily mean literal blood. Can also be metaphorical for the massive death tolls in the clone wars
Cat mandu
Well the trooper meant “the blood” during geonosis where they were fighting droids and getting shot at, is what I meant🙂. But yeah you’re right about that to.
@Kekistan Shitlord battlefront 2
R.I.P. Jango Fett.
Murdered by Mace Windu, and got his legacy butchered in the new Canon.
TheCommenter71 How?
Many of the good characters where butchered . For example in legends General Grievous was a force of nature that the only general who could possibly defeat him in a duel or a battle was Kenobi . His past was also better in legends . He was a kaleesh general who fought for his people but the republic with the support of the jedi forced him and his people to leave their planet and forced them to cut contact with the rest of galaxy which started the famine of the kaleesh people . After years they had permission to return to their former planet but general grievous' ship exploded by a time bomb of the separatists and he was heavily injured. Count Duku resurrected him and told him that the Jedi tried to kill him . He also said that if Grievous accepted his cybernetics , his people will get the support of the banking clan to survive the famine and return to their normal life . Grievous was forced to accept . WHY they changed this story ? WHY ?
I remember when Jango was a the ruler of mandalore
Bubbles_the_Douchefairy And when he killed several Jedi only with snow, a rock, his helmet and bare hands.
@@patrickc1193 tbh as soon as they started dissing Jango I stopped the video
I wouldn't call Jango a narcissist, he was only following the advice of Roz as she was dying. Have a kid, move on from the life of bounty hunting. That's what he did, but do you think a man who went from a farm boy on Concord Dawn, to a mandalorian supercommando, MANDALORE HIMSELF, and then a notorious and despised bounty hunter, would be willing to endanger a woman and make her a target for thugs and people trying to get revenge on him? Boba was his way to have a kid and not get attached to a woman, it wasn't narcissism, it was his way of actually protecting himself and someone else, from needlessly being killed if someone decided to come looking for family (And scumbags will do that, they don't go after the person that wronged them, they go after that person's family, because the only way to exact revenge is to take something away from them that they cherish.)
With Jango, all he has is Boba, and just like Jaster trained Jango, Jango raised Boba until he was killed. This in turn made Boba mirror his father in that he also couldn't really fall in love with someone for very long. They're not narcissists, they're just not emotionally equipped to settle down. They at least tried though.
Irisviel I love you my fellow mando'ade..
Ni kar'tayl gar darasuum
Oya manda!
Oya Manda!
This is the Way
every single clone that died felt like a stab to the stomach
I just thought of ones I didn't like as droids
so true I get so sad it’s like getting shot every rime a clone died
Foxxe.
God. Thats true but still....Waxer, Hevy(yes that is how you spell it) and Fiv....Fives😢
BlasterSW MW poor waxer he didnt need to die
Man the Kaminoans were marketing masters!
Gotta admit, their product WAS true to form, killing all those Jedi. Palpatine got his money's worth, even if a few escaped.
Apollon it was all a part of Palpatines plan to take over the galaxy.
Apollon, has anyone ever told you your A looks like Amuro rays logo? Because it does
Thank god their not real otherwise they'd take ALL OUR OILLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!
Well they are Space Apple
The clones were and probably still are my favorite part of the clone Wars...and maybe all of Star Wars in General
What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word.
Great game
Greatest game in history and I like how the clones in game sound American but the 501st journal guy sounds brutish
_Ju5tCarn4ge _ *New Zealand*
With the fall of Coruscant and the elimination of the traitorous Jedi, Palpatine's rise to power was complete. In recognition of our service and loyalty to the Emperor, the 501st were placed under the direct command of Lord Vader. Armed with deadly new weapons, blazing new ships, and shining new armor, our presence let the galaxy know that the days of the Old Republic were well and truly over. We were establishing a new era: An era of order and peace.
What game
The 501st Journal will always be my first step into the humanisation of the Clones and Stormtroopers for me. Seeing that the faceless men i played as and watched charge into battle were just as human as the commanders who lead them to their deaths.
I really dont like how they imply jango isn't a mando. I really hope they fix that.
Rogue Toa That seemed to be a purely political move on Mandalores part. I don’t know why anyone takes the politician seriously.
in legends de fett's are mandelorians so h=i hope it's just some sort of propaganda
Agreed he is mano theirs some comics out their that say he is and give light to his back round.
He's still from Concord Dawn in Canon which was/is a Mandalorian world.
when mandalorians are habitual adoptionists it would be very hard for him NOT to be a mandalorian. anyone a clan feels worthy can be adopted into a mandalorian family and become a mandalorian themselves what ever their race.
the whole Jango isnt a Mando probably comes from his armour. Jango's armour was plasteel not beskar'gam to cut down the weight
Hmm.... the minds of a 9 year old....wait....it all makes perfect sense now...palpatine is actually pedobear
Palpatine's PewDiePie
Lololololololol
ever heard of mara jade?
They didn't have the mind of a 9 year old though. Yes they were technically 9, but just like their bodies their brains developed fully into adulthood which means they had the mental faculties of an 18 year old even though they were only alive 18.
A: Wanting to have a son is not narcissistic. If you read the Bounty Hunter books you'd see how much Jango cares for his son. B: Jango wasn't just an actual Mandolorian, he was given the title of Mandalore, leader of all Mandalorians, before the Jedi wiped out most if the True Mandalorians warriors and Satine was allowed to usurp Mandalore. Jango is the exact opposite of a narcissistic psycopath.
Just do some research before you make these videos.
James Jacobs Correct
Um.... You're kinda mixing Legends and Canon here. Especially the Jedi involved. In Canon, only Obi-wan and Qui-gon were there. In Legends, it was Dooku, his padawan, and 18 unnamed Jedi.
James Jacobs The thing making Boba being Jango‘s son narcissist was the fact that it was literally a child-version of himself. As in „I love myself so much, I can only raise a miniature of myself as a son“. Or that’s what Generation Tech‘s reasoning was, anyway.
Idk
Jango Fett will always be a mandalorian in my eyes
Well, duh! ;)
Mandalorians are a heterogeneous immigrant society. They are arguably the more progressive in accepting others (outsiders) to be inducted among their culture and people than our own modern immigrant nation cultures. If you become a citizen in these people are called labeled as ___-American or _____-Canadian. In Mandalor they just call you Mandalorian. That is far more progressive than us. That means Jango is a Mandalorian regardless. He might not be a native under out world's rules of classification but to Mandalorians he is in fact Mandalorian. They have a different thought process and cultural views than ours regarding immigrants how they become inducted in as a member of their society. They view the word Mandalorians as a title of a culture and what you are suppose to live up too and not a name of a ethnic group.
You could argue it can be best described being Mandalorian is like a exclusive club. Members either have to be born into it or invited to be accepted in. (You may ask a member to help you learn how to go through the cultural tradition to invited in and accepted. They however are still very strict.)
Ya, the Mandalorians are amazingly progressive, especially when they slaughter innocents.
It still doesn't disprove the fact they'll still allow of those people of the ethnic group they slaughtered to still be within their group, though. Tarre Vizsla was a Mandalorian and a Jedi. (Mandalorians slaughtered Jedi and etc.) I am not discrediting how messed up it is or any wrong doing they do. I am pointing out they really do have a different cultural mindset and way of thinking than we have regarding the concept of national ethnicity, at least for their own cultural nation. It's more pourous. In our world we focus on race and place of birth for nationality. Apparently Mandalorians follow a different set of rules. They leave out race and species out all together. This was the same for the Taung that gave birth to the culture. This means they focus more on where you are born, bloodline (Are one of your ancestors a Mandalorian or got inducted inducted in? If so you are part of the ethnic group), or you went through the process of becoming inducted in as their society as a member if you are a foreigner. This means anyone can be accepted in as a Mandalorian.
They're a meritocracy, you have to prove yourself worthy of being a mandalorian
Whoa. WHOA! You did NOT just diss my boy Jango?! You did NOT just do that. No no. No. You take that back.
Hey hey I’m just repeating what I heard from some mandos ok
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Well . . . If we get more videos then we know that they escaped
Generation Tech what you heard do better research next time you can diss anyone but jango
Thanks boys... This ones just bantha fodder
@@mandickthetittysmithy5117 Jango is the father of Boba Fett....
I hate the bullshit of “oh jango wasn’t a mandalorian.” Really? Last I checked he was mandalore after jaster mereel died but whatever
J Nice legends originally had him be Mando but George Lucas changed that with the Clone Wars and so in new Canon the only information on Jango's mandoness is a line by a Death Watch aligned leader in TCWs. Still easy to make him mando once more.
The passive government of Mandlore probably said that to distance themselves
I feel the same :P
The only reason I call bs is the mandoness of the clones that still stuck around.
Draco Eris I’m confused is legends the new canon or the old canon? I like some of the new stuff but I like the old stuff more because well, it was already established and almost nothing wrong with it....
Is it canon that Jango isn't mandalorian? I thought that was just the new peaceful mandalorian government disavowing and condemning him for his actions.
Nicholas Czernek he's from Concord Dawn, a planet in the Mandalorian system.
He's been disavowed by most mandalorians due to their value of honor and his extremely immoral actions.
He is I used to own one of the official movie breakdown annuals for attack of the clones and states he’s a disowned mandalorian but i kinda like the legends version of Jango
Tom Ives I might be wrong but I seriously doubt most Mandalorians disavowed him. Most New Mandalorians would, but that’s a pacifist faction, a splinter of Mandalorian culture. Jango was Mandalore of the True Mandalorians and hand picked to succeed their founder. Bounty hunting and mercenary work isn’t necessarily wrong to True Mandalorians and before the Mandos splintered they were seen as pretty normal professions.
lol fuck canon jango
Blaire Russ Legends Jango FTW.
Jango was from concord dawn and was adopted by the true mandalorians after the deathwatch killed his family. This is legends, but i consider it Canon
Wtf? I thought it was canon...
TriggerHappy TheTriggered I may have been mistaken
TriggerHappy TheTriggered It was. And then Filoni and afterwards Disney came and threw it all into the pyre of OG Star Wars material.
ViolentScorl That and they never bothered to add anything for Jango after that. (the Boba plot to kill Mace Windu doesn’t count since Jango was already dead)
"When you are living in a place run by Psychopaths, that happens to look like an Apple Store."
xD What?!
I just want to know how the second Starkiller Base in episode 9 has evolved. How big will it be and what does a partially built Planet look like.
I want to know too, Lol!!
Its alleged that the next film has a planet in the unknown regions where slaves are building weapons for the FO. Why hide a arms business? You wouldn't....unless.... Oh goody its a Super Death Star Killer Base Destroyer Mk.4.v2
WOOHOO!
Well I guess we now know what Lando will be doing.
Dis-interesting? Not if you have never seen Rogue One, A New Hope, Return of the Jedi, or The Force Awakens. So Rian Johnson should love it!
Perhaps this time, instead of a Star being consumed by a Planet, they will go with fitting engines to a Star that brings Death to Planets. Lets see the Rebel Scum destroy that with a pew pew fighter. We could name it.....The Death Star?
just a movie? Lets go the whole Porg and get a multi series cartoon!
MrBiggrim All your Super Duper Starkiller Base are belong to us.
You have clearly never heard about PewDiePie's army of 9 year olds
and 14 year old white girls
And the other 32 non genders
Then there's Logan Paul's army of children.
Tac Son nothing compared to the army of 9 year olds with 65 million soldiers
Largest child army
The thumbnail looks like the phase 1 armour clone is flipping us off with his right hand
Looks like a Apple store, lol. I never thought about it much before, but Camino was a very sterile looking environment. They really could have used Sabine as an interior decorator. I bet she could have painted the walls some really bright and cheerful colors and either brightened up the moods of the clones or sent them off the deep end.
Haha yea some nice graffiti to make it feel more like home
You don't really need Sabine. Any human will do, Even if they're colorblind! The clones are begging! lol
They have a special type of sight so to them there is color
I dont think she was born yet
Zac Wayne I was about to say that
That video was beautiful. I love listening to you talk star wars because you put actual rational military thought into your assessments. This discussion about Clone Troopers makes me think about my own military service and my own growth through those years. Awesome video
1:19 now we know
Jango is a mandalorian
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I loved the now non-canon republic commando novels because it painted clones as real people. And basically the republic as grey at best, if not the ones in the wrong, and shined light on the absolute absurdity of some Jedi teachings. Those books will always be my staple for Star Wars: gritty, realistic, morally grey.
Makes you think that maybe Palpatene was right and the empire were the good guys ... besides the Death Star and the ships that emphasize big guns and the poorly equipped fighters with highly experienced pilots
0:26 that clone running on top of the crab droid is seen with a barrel shaped grenade on his back and then in the next shots is missing
Harry Wu holy shit of all the times I've watched this I've never noticed this
Harry Wu I noticed that too! Small continuity error I guess
I love how focused on the clones this channel is, they’re my favourite part of Star Wars for sure
In a lot of ways, a clone trooper is a lot like a Jedi Padawan. They're both indoctrinated ideally from birth in the philosophies of their respective organizations. One thing that can be said about the mind of a child is that it is absolute. There are no gray areas with the mind of a child and with that comes the potential for infinite kindness or cruelty. It could even be said that the clone troopers were treated worse than slaves. They were treated like droids. The existence of the Clone Army makes the Droid activist from Solo all the more silly. If the Republic didn't care about the rights of people( cloned or otherwise) why then would the Empire care about droids?
Mike Vasquez not really. Clones are engineered and worked on from embryo state. Remember? They insert the inhibitory chip in the 3rd development stage.
The jedi younglings are just taken to the temple when they are of age. Sure, they are worked on, and modified by the force, but it's not the same as the clones. The Clone Army is basically a GMO chicken farm and the jedi order is a high end private school.
I never really thought about this until I read the republic commando books where there's a section where they compare jedi kids with clones
I really love your analysis on CW lore. Some people always just bullshit parts of their videos, or misinterpret things, but you actually see things how they are. I also love the appreciation shown for some Legends material. One correction I have to make is that the first Battalions of Clone Troopers was 10 years old when they were first deployed on Geonosis, but this doesn't really change your facts at all.
Alan, really enjoy all of your videos. You are informative and entertaining. I was wondering if you would do a video about what would happen if a clone star destroyer had a mishap and somehow crashed on a planet populated by a low tech race. Cut off from the republic and then the empire. How do you think their new world would do? I mean they are genetically the best warriors. Thus, would they dominate the other race either accidentally (providers) or purposely (for the greater good). Or you could split the video into time spans like the first ten years, the second ten years and so on. Would be fascinating and fun "what if". Another interested idea would have been to have a Jedi on-board who is critically wounded. He/She finds surprisingly that one of the clones takes her away from the crash. In the one year before he/she dies they teach the clone what it is like to be a Jedi. The clone understands some and we find that he takes on the mantel of the Jedi. But mixes in his own clone feelings and opinions. Would love to see this video.
This is a phenomenal episode. I actually shared it with my non Star Wars friends who are in the military.
"But if you are living in an environment designed by psychopaths that looks like an Apple store..."
_("...but_ _I_ _repeat_ _myself...")_
You just made a short exposé into why Clone Wars are among the best Star Wars there is. Kudos!
"Jango is not a real mandalorian."
That aged badly 😂
Really well written, and goes really deep into the topic.
Jango is a real Mandalorian any that say otherwise speak false truths. Especially to those pacifists cowards who slandered the name Mandalorian during the clone wars.
He's a coward!
“Or a stand-alone obi wan movie” How abt a whole show ‼️‼️‼️
Jango wasn't a narcissistic psychopath. He had a big heart deep down as we can see his care for his son in the movies. Jango was also a Mandalorian, he was part of a mandalorian clan. He was born as a farmboy and lived with his parents and sister before they were killed by the deathwatch and Jango was saved by another mandalorian clan and became the adopted son of the leader. What evidence is there to say Jango was ever psycho. Its clear that Jango and Boba were neutral. The people that said Jango was a pyscho were the Kaminoins when they were covering up the inhibitor chips. Almec said Jango was a pretender to coverup his own scheme. In conclusion, Jango was just a simple man trying to make his way in the universe. I'm disappointed Alec.
Broba Jett I blame Lucas for throwing Jango’s legacy out the window while ordering Filoni and Hidalgo to say “Oh Jango only stole some armor and isn’t a Mando.” And I thought Grievous got screwed over in the new Canon.
@@patrickc1193 Grevious was super fucked in rots and the clone wars. His entrance in the original clone wars cartoon was his only true form imo. But yeah the bounty hunter game and legends comics on Jango Fett explain how much of a true mandalorian he is and how much he values the culture and honor despite being a bounty hunter. Same with Boba as he followed the same code at heart and often in the clone wars we see Boba is conflicted between true justice and his personal ambitions which seperates him from other bounty hunters. Like when Plo Koon and Hondo tried to get kid Boba to tell them where Aurra singh was running off to with the hostages. Its easy to make the Fetts look like cold blooded killers because of the job they chose and how threatening they look. The truth is that both Jango and Boba had a lot of character and reasons to choose bounty hunting and its because they want to take justice into their own hands since one of the most clear problems in star wars is a power struggle and a lack of a strong government at times.
I freaking love this guy's deadpan delivery and scathing sarcasm. I was laughing the whole time!!!
I just realize, Luminara was with Yoda in the battle of Kashykk, did Yoda left the planet without Luminara? Didn’t Yoda attempt to rescue Luminara when Order 66 executed in the midst of battle?
Mace Windu I she was killed off screen.
Jacob Clark According to Rebels, she survived long enough to be captured by the Empire and executed by the Grand Inquisitor.
Apparently, they were separated at Order 66. Yoda just left for Coruscant, Luminara was detained by the clones.
Captain Rex so Yoda forsake Luminara? Thats kinda bad if Yoda didn’t think of rescuing Luminara cause they were like near to each other... they didn’t even made a scene how that happened
Mace Windu well, in his defense, she was down on the beach surrounded by the 41st legion... saving her would be quasi suicidal.
Awesome video, great supplement to the CW arcs surrounding Rex and Fives
Wait, who said Jango stole his armor? I read a comic a long time ago where he was a real mandalorian and fought in the mandalorian war....
That was before Disney took over. Now they're wack
Actually Lucas and Filoni changed the Mandalorians and Jango's history before Disney took over.
I consider that the true jango fet
SquirrelsRockify Which sucks because not only was Legends Jango awesome, but he had numerous accomplishments and character. Canon? Aside from Attack of the Clones and getting a few references here and there along with Boba’s plot to kill Mace, there’s nothing about Jango and it’s a shame.
Yes I did...
One thing that always made me love the clones above all other soldiers In the Star Wars universe, was their undying loyalty, and the and the fact that they carried out order 66 was no fault of their own but in reality mind control. But what really showed The loyalty of the clone troops was demonstrated by fives, the moment the control chip was out he effectively was a free clone, and the very first thing he wanted to do uninfluenced by anything else but his own will was to warn his brothers and the Jedi order of the coming threat, not only that but later after Rex removed his he also refused order 66 and went more or less in to rebellion to protect Ashoka, in both cases it showed that without the chips the clones during order 66 would’ve probably sided with the Jedi against the Emperor and most probably even against the Senate.
Trystan bennett that’s true
I thought jango was a Mandalorian? Wasn’t he the leader of a whole faction of them?
Yeees generation tech, the Separatist cause appreciates your continued loyalty and support.
Can we have a top ten Order 66 survivors vid
This is now one of my favorite videos
This is how pewdiepie trained his army of nine year olds
Begun, this T war has...
Clone, indoctrinate and sub to pewdiepie
Whatching this made me loves clones even more all the while seeing them in a different understanding of them.... now when I’m watching TCW I’ll be paying attention on the attitude difference throughout the seasons
Actually he is a mando but I understand you don’t have the god of groggy yet
The GAR is such an interesting and complex system, I love it.
Generation Tech please make a theory video about what if obi wan kenobi left the jedi order to be with Duchess Satine after his padawan mission to protect her.
It’s funny to think that those buff Epic Clone Troopers are just little kids.
Uh, Jango was indeed a Mandalorian, and fought against Death Watch with the true Mandalorians until his allied were all killed.
Also at first he did not want to be the clone template, but Dooku offered him an extrodinary amount of money, plus the knowledge that the clones were really designed for Order 66. Jangi wanted a son because it's something he otherwise could never have, because of his lifestyle.
This is why I love The Clone Wars animated series so much. Not only is it one of the last pieces of original Star Wars content we have and still gritty and real, but it delves into the complexity of these clone troopers and just how badass, but also just human they are. Barring episode one, it's my only real complaint with Episodes I-III, how poorly represented the Clones were.
9:30 "the clones who survived up to this time were very different than the chinese that marched in to geonosis" - thoughts of a military historian regarding the end of the korean war
You should totally do a video that would go over the little fixes and changes that could of been made to better help the clones and get rid of their flaws.
I just finished reading the Clone commando book series and I now hate kaminoans more than ever
Forge Master Arx Should ve never trusted them :( but the money!
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This was amazing! Thank you for uploading!
jango was a mandalorian he was tooken in by the leader mandalor him self in the comics and even became mandalor his self after the leaders death so he was given the armor and didn't steal it smh I like that story since he seemed to be more of a mandalorian rather than just some human and mandaloroans in most comics are of other species that had the same beliefs
There are soo many things wrong grammatically with that statement😐
two questions,
1- why didn't they use metal bullets
2- why didn't they just user a super strong laser at far range to kill of the enemy
Star Wars: Become Human
Colin Thorneycroft The clone wars: become human
This is why I loved Republic Commando... Kal Skirata saw the clones as an admiral form of what the Mandalorians once represented and stood for so he began to show compassion to every clone that fell during the war.... And even had a memorial built with ever dogtag that the clones carried
Wasn't Jango Fett a foundling?
He was at first, then he wasn't, now he is again. Is all really confucing
I really enjoyed the Clone Commando book series, especially around Order 66. What I liked most about the commandos is that while growing more independent and obeying their trainers more than their Jedi generals, there were still Jedi that they respected - and even with varying degrees (they respected those that fought alongside them more than the - for lack of a better term - armchair generals). By the fifth book, it was easy to see how and why each clone had developed their own views of the Jedi, the war, and the galaxy in general.
1:20 Excuse me but what are you on about?
Jango Fett was adopted by Jaster Mereel after his family was killed by the Death Watch. This isn’t like a normal adoption. This is a Mandalorian adoption (“Family is more than bloodline” remember that?) anyways due to that adoption Jango is Mandalorian, not everyone is born a Mandalorian because you can adopt the culture as your own no matter where you came from, even some Jedi became Mandalorian and the Mandalorians hated Jedi. No Mandalorian except the dik’utla Death Watch would say Fett wasn’t Mando’ade and they’re complete scum. So I’m afraid to say you’re wrong there.
Its the new canon. It just plain sucks.
WrightyPegz Ignore Disney, cherish the old legends. Oya!
ViolentScorl Oya manda!
Screw New Pew Mew Canon.
Im the real deal!
WrightyPegz Ori‘kandosii, another Mando‘ad!
2:01 That was exactly what I was thinking, when I saw Episode 2 for the first time 5 years ago.
Jango is a mando. It's pretty obvious.
Excellent video man. Thank you
There are quite a few hardened elite soldiers who are subscribed to pewdiepie so are they clones?
Jango is basically a mandalorian. His home was pillaged by them as a child, his birth parents were killed. For some reason that chose to take him in, that’s where he was raised.
My only problem is yes they are only nine years old but like you said they were aged twice as fast and brain growth effects how you act, a normal nine year old ask that way because their brain is still growing and developing.
They may have the brains of a 18-20 year old but they but they were still naive like a 9 year old
@@jasonskeans3327 are you so sure the chemicals in your brain contribute to personality, memories, judgement, Etc.
Naivety is not something that is not just a symptom of the Young. It is a symptom of deliberately withholding information from an individual or individuals.
'like KotOR 3 or an Obi-Wan movie' - you got my subscribe buddy.
IMO the control chip is a stupid idea, and I wish it never came up. I have no idea if it came from official star wars or not, but I remember reading that Order 66 is an internal clone trooper policy that they were all ready for, and meant that they had been betrayed by the jedi. Seeing as a lot of the jedi treated them like trash, I don't think they'd have a hard time believing that.
Dude did you just said at 9:33 "they werent like the Chinese who marched into Geonosis" legendary
You say a lot about them being 9 year olds but they aren’t. Yes, they have the experience of a 9 year old but a 9 year old isn’t capable of abstract thought because their brains haven’t physically developed. A clone’s brain is fully developed to that of an 18 year old. They just have much less experience than an adult soldier.
That's implied too
Your videos are AWESOME! THANK YOU!
When people say Jango wasn't a Mandalorian because some stuck up, corrupt, lying, pacifist Mandalorian said so. #trigered
Ah but he and Boba are now both confirmed being being Mandalorian
what do you mean he's not a real Mandalorian? he was born on a Mandalorian world, raised by Mandalorian, trained as a Mandalorian. If it walks like Mandalorian and talks like a Mandalorian it's a duck.
If the clone that threw his brother to safety at 9:15 were a U.S. Marine, he would likely have been awarded the Bronze Star for his actions.
I hope a KOTOR III comes out
MaximilianMus never going to happen the house of 🐁 killed that off
Matt Kinsella :((((
Well, we may not get a KotOR III, but we can still pray for a similar Star Wars game. Why not make the Old Republic canon?
MrMetal457 That’s what i ask myself everyday
wasnt a seperate game developer team working on some star wars game ?
I have been watching these videos for a while now and I looked down to like it and then I saw that I wasn't subscribed and I was thinking. "Why am I not subscribed?" (In the end I did subscribe)
Jedi were no general or strategist ... Greavoius that a general
when Allen mentioned KOTOR III i felt something deep down
The 9 year old army lead by pewdiepie
Ken Ken you misspelled Jake Paul
The Clones before the War: *"Alright! We're gonna scrap some clankers and it'll just be like the training drills and simulations!"*
The Clones after the War: *"I saw thousands of my brothers die in hellish conditions being led by a Jedi who literally viewed us as living droids and ordered us into suicidal charges. Good thing Order 66 came through"*
Absolutely wasted 5000+ Clone Commandos....
In loving memory of CT5555. Rest in peace 5s.
did you actually do research on the history or jango or boba that was accurate?
Jack's Echo I think he went with the cannon version.
He was born on Concord dawn witch is a mando world but he was disavowed because of his actions
Jack's Echo Ignore the idiotic Filoni/Disney versions and look up „Jango Fett: Open Seasons“, then follow it up by reading the Republic Commando novels. A million times better than anything the bull-headed idiots now in charge of Star Wars could ever come up with.
@@violentscorl697 it's not cannon anymore so it's meaningless
Jason Skeans Why should I care for what a group of money-crazed businessmen dictate as canon and what not? I prefer the _good_ stories, thank you very much.
A brilliant summation of what can and does happen in real wars, as history shows time and again. Stalin's attitude of callousness towards his own soldiers was a real analog to the Republic's view of its clone warriors. The only difference being that the Republic didn't have its version of NKVD troops shooting retreating clones; the clones, themselves, were expected to police their own and deal with deserters.
FYI jango fett is a foundling from the mandalorian creed as was his son boba fett and thats how he got the armor.
My eyes twitched with bewilderment when you brought up the Canadian General.
The best way at the difference in the efficiency of the close at First Battle of Geonosis and Camino Rebellion during the reign of the Empire in Star Wars Legends.
So that's how pewds have so many subs, he's gone and got himself a clone army
My favorite channel on youtube
There is a quick but deep joke in this episode that was GREAT