I like the idea very much ... however, Having been ganked and killed so often, if I expend whatever resources are needed to colonise a system, obviously it'll be open to attack from ne'er do wells and opposition factions. So I'm giving it a cautious thumbs up, obviously dependant on what further information is forthcoming from deepest, darkest Cambridge.
I'd like top know if it'll be possible to get a passive income from your own systems. Otherwise it'll just be like a larger version of a fleet carrier.
Trust me, players will mess it up. Hundreds of new infantile names on player bases to clutter up your nav list like the carriers do, just for starters.
My biggest worry is how cost prohibitive will it be/how many players will be priced out of the colonization features. Is this going to be something that only players with hundreds of billions or even a trillion credits saved up will be able to participate in?
Similar to fleet carriers, I believe the initial investment for establishing a colony would be in the range of 3-5 billion credits. As someone who has accumulated a significant amount of wealth during the mining boom era when fleet carriers were first introduced (holding around 1 trillion creds), not everyone will opt for colonization. Just as with fleet carriers, I think it depends on what players want to achieve within the game. Much like when I help build computers for clients, asking about their needs and requirements is crucial. To better serve you, could you please tell me: What are your primary goals and objectives in the game? What specific features or benefits do you expect from a colony? How do you plan to use the system to enhance your gameplay experience and benefit yourself and your friends?
There a lot of ways to get the easy credits. Credits are not the issue for years. I don't think that the colonisation system will require hundreds of billions. Just start an economics so the system can be autonomous and voilà.
I think this will become a Squadron focused thing. Colonizing and building up a system to self sufficiency then moving outward and onward. A single player may or may not be able to sustain the effort, idk, but a squadron should be able to.
I think this should also come with the ability for us to look up all the systems we've discovered so we know where to plan our next move(s). Clearly Frontier knows that information. With the limits on bookmarks, I know there are a LOT of systems I've discovered but I didn't bookmark for fear of running out of them.
cant wait . however im having great fun in pp 2.0 and a multi purpose ship from on foot package delivery to core mining a rock and bounty hunting ect all in a ddays work . we get more info on the 27 of this month mate
When we talk manufacturing I see players making and selling Ships,Modules,suits, and clothing. Makes me wonder if this will become a living economy. This would really open up the game. Hopefully in a good way. I play Eve Online and if you buy a item a player made that item. I'm sure that won't happen they would have to rewrite Elite to do that.
I want to have the ability to make my system authority so damn lethal that any engineered player will be wiped out in seconds if they try any shenanigans.
Personally i think it's good news in some aspect. But I'm still a bit sad to hear it's all in the bubble. And then again who will this be for? Is it only for player groups with endless money? Leaving everyone els out of this feature? Its for me a question on how they ballance this. I don't think the lone runner explorer is gonna be having the founds to do it. Even the carrier is like 5billion so it's gonna be a very hard round for the lone wolf to find the founds on doing this game play. But I still like the idea behind it. But could still be afraid it will ruin the galaxy in some ways.
I had these same thoughts. Forcing players to play together won’t work. Enticing is better. I for one won’t become some squadrons grind b8tch. It is bad enough I do it on my own.
Everything depends on the rewards for owning a space station. It should be something unique and interesting, not only money or powerplay shenanigans. An idea could be something related to the design of the station, so if you choose a scientific/exploration station one could be rewarded with something like a special SRV, while a mining space station could reward a size 3 mining laser.
I want to know what I need to start saving up for. Credits? Materials? Arx? I suspect we'll know more on the 27th but I really want to know more as soon as possible
Naming Syastems and Stations, how many Bob's and Raxxlas will we end up with? Will we be able to customise our stations like our ships and carriers? Can we allow the computer to handle trading/ mining etc Auto matically or will we have to micro manage things like X or Eve? How much flexibility will we genuinely have?
I wonder if it's going to be possible to have your own? Shin Dez on steroids, can you imagine having every material trader and every engineer in one system? Or are we just getting the basics? Lots of questions.
i think it will be logistically distanced, like Strongholds are in PP2. Your "new" system will need to be within.. like 50 LY of another system with a base/economy, so the BGS can do trading calculations etc. it will probably have a sphere of influence, like in PP2. Wonder how it will tie into PP2 as far as factions go? eg if you're pledged to Winters will your new system be a Winters PP system? this has a potential to be huge and literally game changing, if done right. if it's just Carriers 2.0 then they will end up just being expensive places to store your ships lol auto-harvesting mats is like 80% of the reason i wanted base-building, so i hope this is included somehow.
Ok, expansion/colonisation is good; in fact, I'd say it's a must for the game. BUT with it comes another must, Law and Order. Take America, in the mid 19th century, 'The Wild West', was a place of murder, robbery, etc. The government and big business knew it had to stop for expansion/ colonisation to happen, and it did. I have played ED exclusively in Solo but fully appreciate that it would be better if everyone was in Open, especially now with Powerplay 2 and whatever they have in mind for colonisation. Sort Law and Order, and I'd seriously consider joining Open play.
would be so cool if you could use these systems and like generate ur own materials / engineer mats by setting up like production lines on a surface like miners and stuff... would also be good if it dosent cost like 50B or smth insane to start
My first questions are - how do we lose a system we colonize, and how do other players take it from us (if at all). Will it be some form of upkeep, like a fleet carrier? Is this going to be a constant PvP or powerplay defense worry? If it can be taken from a player (by PvP or powerplay), how will that translate for solo players? Would my colony as a solo player be taken from me by a group because they have more people to grind powerplay against me?
@@RicardosGaming Incredibly -- I "misplaced" my track IR hat clip so I haven't played in over a week until my replacement gets here. Talk about bummed.
There shouldn't be any distance constraints. I wanted to be the bubble and not a part of the bubble. It would have been a lot more fun and interesting to see micro bubbles pop-up all over the galaxy.
I think it’s a great thing to help the game keep its life span how long will be determined by the devs and player base. I’m hoping that it’ll let us create a more immersive and interactive galaxy with new empires vying for control and making power play go from factions in a empire to a just a single ruler with minor factions that help influence the leaders decisions. From peace to conflict to secession to coups. I like the concept of power play but I feel like it’s been poorly implemented. For example I’ll use the empire it’s multiple factions make it feel like it’s in a civil war rather than a unified empire and yet they are all apart of the empire. It just doesn’t make sense to me same with the federation and alliance the three factions shouldn’t exist since how the members act. Maybe I’m missing something due to forgetting it or never coming across it but for power play to make sense to me it mostly needs to stop the factions police from attacking you and have it split up to police and a secret police/ intelligence agency. Using the empire again you should be allowed to travel within imperial space freely no matter who you pledge to with and only be declared hostile if you enter federation/alliance space or if secession happens with your power that you pledged to. It should still allow you to undermine the faction leaders to put your leader in charge or have greater influence that’s where the secret police/ intelligence agency will come into play and if they know you are a spy they will intervene and try to stop you by any means.
Will mortal Cmdrs like myself thats not in a huge Corp/Squad just my little sole Trader Corp, be able to build and afford the cost and upkeep of the Station, or will it only be affordable to a large Corp? As the thargoid thingy didnt interest me but this does in so many ways.
Old players have too much $. They need another sink in the game. My bet is the stations will be like bigger fleet carriers with much higher monthly costs. Carrier owners theoretically can make $ but most don’t.
I'm one of those players who has accumulated too much wealth, and I'm not sure what to do with it all. Establishing a colony seems appealing to me because it could potentially allow me to achieve my goals in the game. Having the ability to administer my own fleet carrier and ship manufacturer for alliance and Lakon ships would be a significant bonus. To enhance the fleet carriers, I'd suggest adding an à la carte shipyard and outfitting packages, along with bulk discounts on ships and parts. This way, players wouldn't have to pay full price for everything. The introduction of player factions and squadrons could lead to more engagement as people would work towards building their own systems. I think this feature would encourage collaboration and community involvement, making the game even more enjoyable.
Power play in the 2nd week is a bit over powered. Colonization? It is still the same format of the same stuff. I just struggled 3 days with one of my second week pp2.0 assignments and got handed 2 rebuys and ai npc's camping my carrier. They don't seem to have figured out how to balance the pp2.0 so I don't trust this will be a staying factor for me. I don't much care for the Thargiod stuff but at least I made credits. Good video Ricardo thank you...frustrated.
- Can 1 poor person start in any system? - is that system then owned and blocked for others forever, or is this always a cummunity cooperarion? - is a colony losing progress if not funded or activities are paused? - is the system back for new 'owner' if progress is zero or negative? -
Too early to tell, really. I am more of a casual player, and I don't know if I can muster the required time and dedication for something that looks like it's going to be a long-term project.
That is wonderful but sad at the same time, why? what sort of people will the game draw? will this open up more cheaters ? not only cheaters but , How many of these stations will get abandon in years? once the hype is died down , will there be countless number of stations like there is PMF just abandon, and how many FC are out there just abandon, but they remain as there is stupid amount of credits still in the bank. Is this just another grind fest? Things were great back in days of beyond the grind was nice but over the years it became more and more unbalanced, will this just add to the Ka-oss? Lastly are the thargoids going to have free right to attack our stations?
Meh. I never cared about carriers, never cared about space legs, never cared about power play, and I don't care about colonization either. I command my ships.
Hm. If it is as shallow as carrier gameplay… yea, thanks. But no thanks. What would drive me in would be some sort of political gameplay besides the superpowers. But as it sounds the player driven systems are only satellite systems for the established superpowers. Which are a hot mess of boulevard press ideas of political ideas. Nothing for me, sorry. I already get eye cancer if I have to read anarchy systems as synonym for lawlessness instead of some sort of self organizing society with (strict) rules.
I like the idea very much ... however, Having been ganked and killed so often, if I expend whatever resources are needed to colonise a system, obviously it'll be open to attack from ne'er do wells and opposition factions. So I'm giving it a cautious thumbs up, obviously dependant on what further information is forthcoming from deepest, darkest Cambridge.
I'd like top know if it'll be possible to get a passive income from your own systems. Otherwise it'll just be like a larger version of a fleet carrier.
Technically you can get a passive income if you sell Sidewinders near the galactic core so the people can use the Braben teleport XD
@@azog23 only 1 week to wait for more info
@@AnotherOne-Retro-Paladin oh that is so cheats. You’d need to have admin to turn in exploration too.
Two questions Grind and Cost, let's wait and see
Grind will be soul draining which is fine since the cost will be your very soul lol.
I don’t know that I trust players not to mess it up.
Trust me, players will mess it up. Hundreds of new infantile names on player bases to clutter up your nav list like the carriers do, just for starters.
Just wait for the colonia bridge to be turned into a peen and balls.
@@brandongarrett2309 you already have silly system names in game now
@@brandongarrett2309 You can filter carriers out tho in the Nav Menu
@@brandongarrett2309 it might just be the thing that turns me off the game, Powerplay 2.0 is already spoiling it.
I'd like the ability to earn cosmetics through gameplay rather than just 400 ARX per week.
Urban sprawl... Another night stuck in the drive-thru at the Hawking's Gap Taco Bell.
My biggest worry is how cost prohibitive will it be/how many players will be priced out of the colonization features. Is this going to be something that only players with hundreds of billions or even a trillion credits saved up will be able to participate in?
Similar to fleet carriers, I believe the initial investment for establishing a colony would be in the range of 3-5 billion credits. As someone who has accumulated a significant amount of wealth during the mining boom era when fleet carriers were first introduced (holding around 1 trillion creds), not everyone will opt for colonization. Just as with fleet carriers, I think it depends on what players want to achieve within the game. Much like when I help build computers for clients, asking about their needs and requirements is crucial. To better serve you, could you please tell me:
What are your primary goals and objectives in the game?
What specific features or benefits do you expect from a colony?
How do you plan to use the system to enhance your gameplay experience and benefit yourself and your friends?
There a lot of ways to get the easy credits. Credits are not the issue for years. I don't think that the colonisation system will require hundreds of billions. Just start an economics so the system can be autonomous and voilà.
I think this will become a Squadron focused thing. Colonizing and building up a system to self sufficiency then moving outward and onward. A single player may or may not be able to sustain the effort, idk, but a squadron should be able to.
They should make it accessible
@@RicardosGaming I agree
I think this should also come with the ability for us to look up all the systems we've discovered so we know where to plan our next move(s). Clearly Frontier knows that information. With the limits on bookmarks, I know there are a LOT of systems I've discovered but I didn't bookmark for fear of running out of them.
@@stevenposey hopefully this will appeal to the explorers
cant wait . however im having great fun in pp 2.0 and a multi purpose ship from on foot package delivery to core mining a rock and bounty hunting ect all in a ddays work . we get more info on the 27 of this month mate
i hope they upgrade their servers, already notice a fair bit of degradation with pp 2.0....
Further more can't wait for more to do in this great game.
You're right there. Often solo is the only way I can connect..
this is definitely gonna be Awesome
When we talk manufacturing I see players making and selling Ships,Modules,suits, and clothing. Makes me wonder if this will become a living economy. This would really open up the game. Hopefully in a good way. I play Eve Online and if you buy a item a player made that item. I'm sure that won't happen they would have to rewrite Elite to do that.
I don’t think there is much I can impact as a solo player, but it will be cool to see what player groups can accomplish.
I agree, it would be cool as solo myself if we could have our own little system out in the black somewhere.
Well, about upkeep.
I don't mind upkeep charge similar to FC upkeep, but ONLY if you can later develop system economy to be self sustainable.
@@ДмитрийФокин-з3й there has to be an economy to accompany it
I want to have the ability to make my system authority so damn lethal that any engineered player will be wiped out in seconds if they try any shenanigans.
Personally i think it's good news in some aspect. But I'm still a bit sad to hear it's all in the bubble. And then again who will this be for? Is it only for player groups with endless money?
Leaving everyone els out of this feature?
Its for me a question on how they ballance this. I don't think the lone runner explorer is gonna be having the founds to do it. Even the carrier is like 5billion so it's gonna be a very hard round for the lone wolf to find the founds on doing this game play. But I still like the idea behind it. But could still be afraid it will ruin the galaxy in some ways.
I had these same thoughts. Forcing players to play together won’t work. Enticing is better. I for one won’t become some squadrons grind b8tch. It is bad enough I do it on my own.
Everything depends on the rewards for owning a space station. It should be something unique and interesting, not only money or powerplay shenanigans. An idea could be something related to the design of the station, so if you choose a scientific/exploration station one could be rewarded with something like a special SRV, while a mining space station could reward a size 3 mining laser.
I want to know what I need to start saving up for. Credits? Materials? Arx? I suspect we'll know more on the 27th but I really want to know more as soon as possible
I'm excited about this, anything is better than ship interiors though 🤣😍
Naming Syastems and Stations, how many Bob's and Raxxlas will we end up with?
Will we be able to customise our stations like our ships and carriers?
Can we allow the computer to handle trading/ mining etc Auto matically or will we have to micro manage things like X or Eve?
How much flexibility will we genuinely have?
I wonder if it's going to be possible to have your own? Shin Dez on steroids, can you imagine having every material trader and every engineer in one system? Or are we just getting the basics? Lots of questions.
i think it will be logistically distanced, like Strongholds are in PP2. Your "new" system will need to be within.. like 50 LY of another system with a base/economy, so the BGS can do trading calculations etc. it will probably have a sphere of influence, like in PP2. Wonder how it will tie into PP2 as far as factions go? eg if you're pledged to Winters will your new system be a Winters PP system? this has a potential to be huge and literally game changing, if done right. if it's just Carriers 2.0 then they will end up just being expensive places to store your ships lol
auto-harvesting mats is like 80% of the reason i wanted base-building, so i hope this is included somehow.
Everyone: Let's expand the bubble!
Everyone on day 1: Unpopulated system in the bubble.
The grind and cost worry's aside, would this let us make a roads so to speak to famous areas for ease of access.
Ok, expansion/colonisation is good; in fact, I'd say it's a must for the game. BUT with it comes another must, Law and Order.
Take America, in the mid 19th century, 'The Wild West', was a place of murder, robbery, etc. The government and big business knew it had to stop for expansion/ colonisation to happen, and it did.
I have played ED exclusively in Solo but fully appreciate that it would be better if everyone was in Open, especially now with Powerplay 2 and whatever they have in mind for colonisation. Sort Law and Order, and I'd seriously consider joining Open play.
would be so cool if you could use these systems and like generate ur own materials / engineer mats by setting up like production lines on a surface like miners and stuff... would also be good if it dosent cost like 50B or smth insane to start
Who knows, there has to be some incentive
Hoping this gets released soon.
My first questions are - how do we lose a system we colonize, and how do other players take it from us (if at all).
Will it be some form of upkeep, like a fleet carrier? Is this going to be a constant PvP or powerplay defense worry? If it can be taken from a player (by PvP or powerplay), how will that translate for solo players? Would my colony as a solo player be taken from me by a group because they have more people to grind powerplay against me?
All I want to know is: cost.
@@Tamburello_1994 exactly
@@RicardosGaming Incredibly -- I "misplaced" my track IR hat clip so I haven't played in over a week until my replacement gets here. Talk about bummed.
How much (more) grinding will be involved?
It's great, but I'm looking forward to a "science update"
@@franader science would be good
just an aside, Meta put out a pc update today . noticeable improvement in quest 3 stability and sharpness , especially in odyssey 2d mode
Interesting
There shouldn't be any distance constraints. I wanted to be the bubble and not a part of the bubble. It would have been a lot more fun and interesting to see micro bubbles pop-up all over the galaxy.
Colonisation is an excellent idea, in principle. We now just have to wait and see how FD screw it up.
The may well surprise us , this year has been a blast
I think it’s a great thing to help the game keep its life span how long will be determined by the devs and player base. I’m hoping that it’ll let us create a more immersive and interactive galaxy with new empires vying for control and making power play go from factions in a empire to a just a single ruler with minor factions that help influence the leaders decisions. From peace to conflict to secession to coups. I like the concept of power play but I feel like it’s been poorly implemented. For example I’ll use the empire it’s multiple factions make it feel like it’s in a civil war rather than a unified empire and yet they are all apart of the empire. It just doesn’t make sense to me same with the federation and alliance the three factions shouldn’t exist since how the members act. Maybe I’m missing something due to forgetting it or never coming across it but for power play to make sense to me it mostly needs to stop the factions police from attacking you and have it split up to police and a secret police/ intelligence agency. Using the empire again you should be allowed to travel within imperial space freely no matter who you pledge to with and only be declared hostile if you enter federation/alliance space or if secession happens with your power that you pledged to. It should still allow you to undermine the faction leaders to put your leader in charge or have greater influence that’s where the secret police/ intelligence agency will come into play and if they know you are a spy they will intervene and try to stop you by any means.
Will mortal Cmdrs like myself thats not in a huge Corp/Squad just my little sole Trader Corp, be able to build and afford the cost and upkeep of the Station, or will it only be affordable to a large Corp? As the thargoid thingy didnt interest me but this does in so many ways.
Old players have too much $. They need another sink in the game. My bet is the stations will be like bigger fleet carriers with much higher monthly costs. Carrier owners theoretically can make $ but most don’t.
That's ANOTHER reason I think we need space poker in the stations!
I'm one of those players who has accumulated too much wealth, and I'm not sure what to do with it all. Establishing a colony seems appealing to me because it could potentially allow me to achieve my goals in the game. Having the ability to administer my own fleet carrier and ship manufacturer for alliance and Lakon ships would be a significant bonus. To enhance the fleet carriers, I'd suggest adding an à la carte shipyard and outfitting packages, along with bulk discounts on ships and parts. This way, players wouldn't have to pay full price for everything.
The introduction of player factions and squadrons could lead to more engagement as people would work towards building their own systems. I think this feature would encourage collaboration and community involvement, making the game even more enjoyable.
Power play in the 2nd week is a bit over powered. Colonization? It is still the same format of the same stuff. I just struggled 3 days with one of my second week pp2.0 assignments and got handed 2 rebuys and ai npc's camping my carrier. They don't seem to have figured out how to balance the pp2.0 so I don't trust this will be a staying factor for me. I don't much care for the Thargiod stuff but at least I made credits. Good video Ricardo thank you...frustrated.
@@the4thj I hear you
They might surprise me, but i dont see any use for it. What will make it special?
This not PP2 is the reselling point of Frontier's efforts in Elite
So like me Frontier are getting into x4?
- Can 1 poor person start in any system?
- is that system then owned and blocked for others forever, or is this always a cummunity cooperarion?
- is a colony losing progress if not funded or activities are paused?
- is the system back for new 'owner' if progress is zero or negative?
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@@GDLRenoBlade more news as it breaks
I don't see a reason why wouldn't system colonisation include base building too
Is it really 42, that is my question ❤
of course
I know where I want to colonize
Too early to tell, really. I am more of a casual player, and I don't know if I can muster the required time and dedication for something that looks like it's going to be a long-term project.
@@vonSchmettern this will also no doubt, effect the BGS
That is wonderful but sad at the same time, why? what sort of people will the game draw? will this open up more cheaters ? not only cheaters but , How many of these stations will get abandon in years? once the hype is died down , will there be countless number of stations like there is PMF just abandon, and how many FC are out there just abandon, but they remain as there is stupid amount of credits still in the bank.
Is this just another grind fest? Things were great back in days of beyond the grind was nice but over the years it became more and more unbalanced, will this just add to the Ka-oss?
Lastly are the thargoids going to have free right to attack our stations?
I'm a simple person, I just want the servers to work properly so that I don't get a Mauve Adder every other jump.
Well, PP 2.0 is a mess, and don't think this will be much better. Just more 'grind' I am afraid. We now just have to wait and see how FD screw it up
I predict a patch on the 28th
Meh. I never cared about carriers, never cared about space legs, never cared about power play, and I don't care about colonization either. I command my ships.
o7
Hm.
If it is as shallow as carrier gameplay… yea, thanks. But no thanks. What would drive me in would be some sort of political gameplay besides the superpowers. But as it sounds the player driven systems are only satellite systems for the established superpowers. Which are a hot mess of boulevard press ideas of political ideas. Nothing for me, sorry. I already get eye cancer if I have to read anarchy systems as synonym for lawlessness instead of some sort of self organizing society with (strict) rules.
Personally believe ED is out dated with a identity crisis ntm beating a dead horse
goodbye then