Testing GRYPHONS ZEPHYR RING SAW! (Stained glass cutting machine)
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2024
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I bought this machine and so did my neighbor! My machine is coming today so I can't wait, super excited !
My neighbor, unfortunately speaking, her machine just froze up so I decided to re watch this you tube,, thank you 🙂
Awesome!! So fun!! Is she all set??
@@MakenzieHallie yes, her belt was a bit off so put it back on and all going great now
Thanks for the honest and thorougher review. It is time for me to update my Taurus ring saw, it has served my faithfully for 7 years, I have used it consistently practically every week and have never had “Chunks of glass” get inside the blade housing and or break anything! And I can tell you that I put my Taurus through it’s paces. Based on your review and the fact that the Zephyr stoped working (luckily didn’t break the blade or cogs) on its first use I for one will NOT be purchasing one! I’ll stick with a brand that I can trust. Considering you received a free ring saw from Gryphon you could have easily edited the video and we would be none the wiser however you didn’t, your integrity as a reviewer is second to none. Great to see someone giving honest and unbiased reviews on UA-cam. Thank you 🙏🏻
Hey guys!
QUICK NOTE FROM GRYPHON- " The best way to add water is to add a little at a time, until you like the flow. You can run the saw dry til the cows come home, as LONG AS YOU ARE NOT cutting anything." Matte Wolfe - Gryphon
Thank you guys so much for watching, subscribing and for your support! You guys make this all possible.
So I watched your video where you unpackaged the first ring saw. I found myself coming back to you because I also had that issue with the loud noise. You absolutely told me exactly what I needed to do so I cleaned it out put freshwater in. I opened it up and after trying and trying to do righty tidy lefty, Lucy, I realize the screws work in the opposite direction! Ha ha! Thank you thank you for your authentic open self and for all the beautiful information that you’ve given me so far. This is my very first ring saw. I have used the Taurus ring saw. This ring saw by far is more comfortable to use.
Absolutely agree. I largely cant even put my finger on why i prefer this ring saw over the taurus sometimes. I just do. Its the one i grab first! So glad your enjoying my videos and find them helpful. Thank you so much for watching! 🖤🙏🏻🥰
I ordered and have received my Gryphon thanks to you Makenzie!! I watch your videos over and over again. You are the reason I have learned what I have in regards to Stainglass appreciate you.
I love my Gryphon-- and, at least at the time I bought mine, it cost a bit less than the Taurus, despite having the extra ring blade. I also noted that the cutting clearance both up and down and back to front was bigger than the Taurus, allowing for more maneuverability of the glass. I found mine splashed more than yours was doing, which was easily fixed by slightly tilting the whole thing back, resting the front edge on a couple of pencils-- then the water was still there for cooling the blade and catching the glass dust. I also got a step on/step off foot switch from Harbor Freight, which makes it easier to stop if you are in the middle of a cut and need to for any reason. Just like using a sewing machine. I've also found mine useful if you want a continuous piece of glass for a background and you don't want to risk a bad cut, losing the continuity of the glass if it is streaky, or has a pattern. I also use it for glass that is misbehaving and cutting badly, since I don't want to waste glass if I can avoid it.
Also, about the motor noise: I find it calms me to wear earplugs while using the saw. I also put on a full plastic face shield "just in case", as I am very "gun-shy" about the possibility of the blade breaking, which has never happened to me (yet).
I have a Taurus band saw and have been waiting for you to make this video. I watched your unboxing. Currently my band saw is resting because the ring is not moving. After watching your video today I am looking for a stray piece of glas to be the reason mine is idle. I have been pleased with my band saw for over ten years but after watching the speed of the Zephyr I am considering adding it to my tool supply. Your videos are extremely informative and after doing stained glass for over 30 years I still learn new techniques from watching your video.
Definitely check it out! If a chunk knocked it off the track you'll see that right away when you open it to clean it and stuff. So glad your enjoying my channel and still feel like your learning something new!! Thank you so much! And good luck!! 🖤🖤
Oh-my-goodness! I have always enjoyed your videos, but this one will change my life! I am so excited to receive this product and you gave the best recommendation on where to purchase, too! Anything in Stained Glass had the best price by far & I can't wait to receive this & get to work on my creations. Thank you so much!
This is the last piece of equipment I needed to complete my SG arsenal. Thank you for the thorough review.
Thank you for the honest and thorough demonstration❤
I have become obsessed with your channel, I’ve watched them all and purchased most of your equipment you have recommended and very happy. I will say with my Zephyr grinder and ring saw, for clean up I bought a battery operated dental water pick for like $40 at Target it is amazing to get both products clean.
Thank you so much for such a thorough review complete with your recommendations (slow down). Thank you for your excellent video's and your husband/your service.
Thank you so much Cindy. Happy to help!! ♡♡
Just received this machine for Christmas....I absolutely love it!
Awww yayy!!! Im so glad, merry Christmas and enjoy it!!!
I have the gryphon and
Love it! Like you Makenzie I was cutting glass, when a horrible sound happened and it stopped
Cutting I took it apart fully expecting to change the belt to be pleasantly surprised. I have since learned to move my
Scraps out of the way so they don’t get sucked up!
Absolutely! I've had some bad pieces get sucked in on my taurus. I was fully anticipating a snapped blade with the gryphon. Totally just feels made better.
I really appreciate the detail you go into when showing us a new piece of equipment or tool.. Thank you.
Thank you so much Fran!
I had a second hand Taurus for years until it died. I loved the results, but it was not easy to use and the ring saw blade ‘jumped’ off its track quite often, without there seeming to be a good reason. Thank you Makenzie for your thorough review. I love the look of the Gryphon, and am very impressed with what you have shown of its performance. Definitely on my wish list too. Ann x
I would agree with that assessment of the Taurus. It took awhile for it to do it to me, but I never really put it to hard use before that. I do think it's a good machine. I just think the zephyr has those extra elements taking it up a notch.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one that's noticed the Taurus blade jumps off without putting too much pressure on it. I was worried iw as doing nothing wrong
Just received this for a gift and excited to try it! TY,
Great as usual! Congrats on 10K
Thank you !!
When I say I ran to the sale, I legit RAN!! I'm stupid excited to try this out ......then put it on the shelf 😆
Congratulations on 10k babes!!
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 I hear that. But good!!! Im so glad your excited!!! So fun!!!!! And thank you so much!!
Not sure how I missed the unboxing video, but I just saw this one and immediately ordered this saw! Was thinking about the Taurus, but with such a good sale price, I'm going with the zephyr. Thanks for this video!!
Awesome!!! So glad you were able to see the Taurus and the Zephyr before making a decision!
Not gonna lie here, but when you initially started cutting & sped the video up, the safety professional in me FREAKED the F out!! Yeah, it cuts fast, but please take your time! But, it’s a very cool tool and it on my wish list.
🤣🤣🤣 imagine if it was THAT fast!!!!!
@@MakenzieHallie if it WAS that fast, I think you would’ve lost a nail to two!!! 😱😂🤣😂
At the VERY least. 😱😱🖤🖤🤣🤣
Thank you. Wish I got one when it was on sale. I could use it. Appreciate your opinions 😁😁❤
It is on crazy sale! Anythinginstainedglass.com
Thank you for watching!
Ten THOUSAND subscribers, you go girl ❤️
THANK YOU REBECCA!!! 🖤🎊🎉
Really impressive, can handle side to side as well as frontal cutting, I'm not at this level yet but maybe one day..... Always learn so much from your vids, thanks Makenzie 😁
Totally. I wouldn't have gotten one of these earlier in my career, just isn't necessary yet. But absolutely a cool option when your ready!
Just purchased one online from Delphi Glass....really looking forward to learning how to use it! Great video!!!!
Awesome info! Thank you! Let’s get this woman to 25,OOO views!👍🤗🧡😎
Wohooooo!!!!!
Thank you for the demonstration. My dad said that he would get a ring saw for me for my birthday I wasn't sure which one to get
Want to definitely look into the saw reminds me of scroll saw action? Getting into satins glass
Well welcome to stained glass my friend!
ring saw vs glass shards it would be nice to have you mention how important it is to properly tension the ring saw blade after cleaning the saw. From my personal experience it tough getting the saw to operate again . All said I love my saw, but sometimes help is needed with the tiny details. Love your videos.
Did you ever do the head to head video comparison of the Tarus vs the Zephyr? I see the Tarus has a light, does the Zephyr? I’m still so torn between the two.
NEW SAW Used mine 2 times maybe 15 min total, belt keeps coming off and could not find any broken glass so I'll be calling tomorrow.
Any chance you can show us a piece of glass you've cut with the Gryphon. I just got my saw and my cuts are too rough to cut right on the cutting line. I have to cut outside the line and the grind.
I'm having the same issue. Did you ever find a solution to this?
hello, thank you for this video... you still need to grinde after cutting with this machine?
I got my saw yesterday ... I've been so excited to try it!! But I've noticed some things and only have 72 hours to return. 😩 Did you noticed it leaking out of the seam above the splash guard?? Did you have a hard time getting the tray to sit flat & not wiggle?? Please help 😆😆😆
Water should not be leaking from the seam, it is either not snapped completely shut or the face shield isn't clicked in. As for the tray idk how to help that, once it sits in place it's in place, I'd have to see it!!
Hold your hand down on one corner of your work surface and push down while going all the way around to the opposite side of the surface snapping in one corner at a time. Make sure your saw is completely seated in the slot at the bottom of the pan.
@@matthewwolfe6848 Thank you! Yes, i just have to push down on all sides to make it go into place. I was also able to remedy the water coming out of the top. :)
@@Jaim- That's great, glad to help!
I just got one of these today and im hyped to use it
Awesome!!!! It's so neat. Have fuuunnn!!!!!
Mine seems to be leaking from the purple casing between where the face shield connects. It trickles down under the face shield and drips from the same place the normal water does. Is this normal? It doesnt seem like its supposed to leak from the two halves of the casing.
I would reach out to Matt, gm of gryphon. I do believe I've heard him say before to someone the the face shield isn't in place all the way or something if that's happening. But I'm not 100 percent sure. Definitely shoot them an email, there super helpful!!
@@MakenzieHallie thanks i will
Let me know if you can't get in touch for some reason 🖤
Do to your video I have bought the ring saw thank you very much
Any tips on cutting and grinding really small pieces?
Awesome!! Hope you love it and have fun with it!! Well, due to my nails I have built in little pliers to help hold those small pieces lol! When your doing those small pieces on a normal grinder you may like the grinders mate, a grinder cookie etc. Tools to help hold the pieces.
Thank you for the video! Do you like the Taurus or the zephyr better? Does one provide a better quality cut?
Hey McKenzie I am thinking of getting this saw but alot reviews say it gets stuck or stops abruptly due to glass getting caught in the blade. Have you had alit of trouble with this?
When using the saw is water coming out the seam in the top? I can't tell from the way the camera is facing. I know you said the owner of the company told you to make sure you leave the safety shield on or it can leak. Mine is on but still leaks. I was just wondering if the one you're using leaks there too while using it.
Thanks for this video. I bought this on your recommendation. My problem is the work surface does not seem to fit. It doesn’t click in to place and is wobbly. Gryphon help center seems to be non-existent. Can you help, please.
Yes i can, absolutely should just snap into place like any other grate. Where are you reaching out to gryphon? And when?
I tried to contact Gryphon on the address they have at the back of the manual. This I did yesterday right before I contacted you.
Ok yea so because its the weekend, no one would respond yet. I would give them a chance to read your email first!
Problem solved! TY!
This is interesting - I've never seen a ring saw in action and never been tempted before but now I am! Could you maybe show some video of you cutting at normal speed? Maybe include in your next vid? Do you need to grind after using the saw?
Congrats on 10k subs! 👏🥳
Hey Vanessa! So you can see the ring saw cutting on my taurus video at normal speed. I would say the gryphon is about 35% quicker. It's insane. I can absolutely include some real time footage in my next video with the zephyr. I apologize!! Oh and no. So any side you cut with a ring saw does not necessarily need to be ground. However 9 times out of ten I'm taking it to a grinder to just perfect the stencil line.
@@MakenzieHallie Thanks for replying and please don't apologise, I love your videos🤩. Thanks for the info. Now I just need to start saving my pennies for this new toy!🙂
Have a great day x
P.S well done for rescuing cats! And hope your arms are better soon. x
You might like the "Bat" Lamp Mold-Kit. They used to make a Mosaic Bat Base too.
Oohhhhh 😍😍🦇🦇 bats you say??!!
@@MakenzieHallie For anyone interested Chaz Smith in Pennsylvania makes the Bat Mold-Kit, it`s about 17" and is an hexagonal shape.
Odyssey Lamp Systems makes a "Spider and Web" lamp mold-kit, but the bronze Spider is very expensive.
Bruce Wong, in China, just started making Bat bases in brass with a patina. With these, if you want to, you add your own Mosaic.
Who is that and where do I find??!! Lol!!!
hello! do you still grind the glass after cutting on this machine?
Awesome videos. Thanks. Question. Is it easier to draw on the design to the glass or cut the pattern out and glue it to the paper?
So it’s been a month since this video, do you prefer the Gryphon or Taurus?
I still enjoy them both. However the speed and extras like the blade will always make me recommend the Zephyr if your choosing between the two.
@@MakenzieHallie thank you so much, I’ve been trying to decide for a week now which to buy. Decision made!! Enjoy your videos so much, are you on TikTok and do lives?
@@jenniferwarren4034 welcome!! They are both great machines. Just look around at all available suppliers, look at all those extras and make the right call for you. You cannot go wrong with either. I do not have tiktok, my 30 year old blood has been strongly resistant. Lol. However I have recently decided I will start using tik tok, of coarse as soon as I do I will let you guys know here, on my IG and link it in my bios!
Between Gryphon Zephyr and TAURUS which would you recommend? (I cannot buy both ) :-)
Thank you very much for this. I am from South Africa - I had a surprise when I unpacked the Gryphon grinder that was delivered today (The ring Saw in shipping status at the moment). I will have to purchase an additional Step down voltage converter...?). Will this be similar with Gryphon Ring saw?
Just ordered one. Can you touch base on the different kinds of glass and there use. I have a patriotic table lantern pattern I would like to do but not sure on glass selection, any recommendations? You make great videos
Hi Keith! Was your question in relation to cold glass, fusible, etc? Or more purely color and texture? And thank you so much for watching!
@@MakenzieHallie I think cold and textured,just so the light can show through. Thanks for getting back to me
My pleasure. Ok so essentially "cold glass" is for stained glass only. Cold glass is final form, if you will. Fusible can be used for those folks who fuse glass as well as used for normal cutting up stained glass. So it's a combo. Fusible will also be more expensive because it has "two functions". Everything else is all preference. Personal preference or project preference. Color, texture, thickness is all totally up to you and up to your specific project. I will use cold glass and fusible, it's whatever catches my eye. If you wanted to fuse glass, (melt it to make jewelry, or *fused* glass panels) you would have to use fusible. Hope this helps! And don't be afraid to just Google those key words. There is alot of written info out there and there will always be some much smarter then me information!! Lol!
Thank you, you helped me decide!
Does it work with mirror? Or only glass?❤
Yes it'll work with all glasses, stones, etc. I'll reach out to gryphon and get an exact list of everything this ring saw can cut through. Like granite, etc.
Which do you like better. Gryphon or Taurus
Loved the demo. Do you recommend any particular cutting surface
Is the output of water normal and busy something to contend with? I find it hard to see my lines sometimes
Do you have any tips on keeping the black marker on the glass while cutting?
Ok so I haven't ever needed to try it but ALOT of people comment about it. I've seen chapstick, Vaseline, doing the sharpie the day before, but I haven't tried any. So I just can't confirm. I would imagine chapstick or any oil based product would help repell surface water!
Maybe I'll do a video testing different methods
Straight up need a solution for this too! Makes me never use a band or a ring saw even though they’re so needed sometimes!
@@duckiemace Try a little less water. Again, empty the reservoir and then activate the saw while empty. Add water incrementally until the water just starts to flow then stop adding. The vaseline technique works really well too and wont hurt the saw.
Someone said on a blog that they use sharpie paint pens that are oil based. I just ordered some so hopefully it works!! Can’t wait to get the saw, ordered yesterday :) hope you’re being sponsored!!
Will this saw cut soft lead crystal blocks which are 15 - 18 mm thick?
Hello, can you stick the blade through a hole you made in the glass to cute out a shape without touching edges?
Yes, it's called a separating blade. I do believe I show it in one of my taurus ring saw videos!
Yes, I think I show it in this one!- ua-cam.com/video/XDq0ry6mruI/v-deo.html
@@MakenzieHallie just watched it. Thank you. The blade is a closed loop, there’s no way you could make fretwork
Love your glass videos. I saw your demo video of the Gemini Taurus ring saw and was so excited I ordered one for myself. Now I know I should have done some comparison shopping but I like to fly by the seat of my pants. Even after seeing this demo I’m still super happy with the Gemini. I don’t have problems with too much water or the speed or how it’s made. Even my hubby thinks it’s awesome and he’s a diyer and owns ever other tool out there. I am jealous of the extra blade though. The reason for my comment is to tell people to compare machines and get what works for them. Maybe you could do a side by side actual time comparison video with sound so people can really see the performance difference. Just a suggestion. I appreciate your detailed videos. Have a great day!
Definitely, that's why I have dedicated videos for each ring saw! I will still be doing a head to head battle soon! Stay tunnneedd! 🖤
Let's hear this beast!
You may not like the results. Lol. I'd say just as loud as any other glass ring saw, but noticeably more powerful.
@@MakenzieHallie yeah with power comes noise. How did the water spray on the table top do with running the glass through the machine? Wondering if there was more water on the bench actually cutting the glass. I have the Taurus 3 btw
Quite literally ZERO water. The entire time. I would have updated saying there was water spray, cuz that drives me absolutely batty about the Taurus. So messy. The only time water hit the table was after I took the grid off or something like that. No direct spray from the blade. And talking to Gryphon, they said we can also run it dry as long as we want to slowly add water to our desired flow, as long as we don't grind it dry. So that's pretty cool too. I think overall I would sum it up as cleaner, more powerful, more options, more extra parts, just as loud as any grinder, easier to use.
@@MakenzieHallie awesome I'll consider this down the road for when the T3 bites it. Btw I sent a PM to you on Instagram. Asking about youtube stuff .
Definitely, and kk, what is your IG name?
Great video. Thanks
Thank you so much for this video! 🖤🖤🖤 I'd love SO much to lay my hands on this saw but I'm struggling to find it in Europe. I saw that Gryphon makes it with international voltage but they just have shipping option for US on their website. I tried to contact them but no answer. Do you maybe have a direct contact with them that could help me figure out if they can ship to Italy or point out an European reseller?
Thank you very much in advance 😊
The GM of gyphon has been responding on your other comment thread, his name is Matt. I responded there as well so hopefully you see it!!
@@MakenzieHallie Thank you so much for always being super willing to help! I truly appreciate this SO much!
I didn't notice a light. Does it have one?
The instructions say to pour the water into the hole on top of the is this incorrect?
The blade constantly falls off the belt for me. Even after just 5 minutes. Anybody have any insight on this?
Oh no!! Yea deff something isnt right. Ive had my belt fall off my zephyr and taurus 1 time each and 1 time only. I think because it could be many different things, i would reach out to gryphon. Matt himself should be able to help! 🖤
Hi Mackenzie, I received this saw on December 13th and used it once….the belt keeps popping off I cannot use it. Tried to contact Gryphon.. no customer service…on answer…
I responded to your other comment- I would say something is not right/defective. Still use mine everyday over the Taurus! But that's just it, something I could love, you could not. It is my job to review products and give my own personal experience. Where are you emailing gryphon? I need an email to be able to reach out to gryphon with to get some help!
@@MakenzieHallie I have called the main # and left a message for Matt. I appreciate your videos on unboxing and trying out products, please continue. I have been a stained glass artist for 25-30years and just now changed my saw and grinder. You have a Happy and healthy New Year and thank you for your videos. Great fun and informative
Ok so I rarely call but I am in contact with them frequently through email. Just waiting for a response now. We'll get it sorted, that shouldn't be happening. I'm surprised Matt hasn't seen this comment yet, he's usually hanging around the comment section from time to time. I imagine the holidays are pushing all contact back. But again, I have a gut feeling your going to have to go through the place you purchased it from. I'll keep you posted!!
We take a week off from Christmas to New Years and will be back in the office Jan 3. That being said i see Kathy left a message Dec 28 and i left a message with her today on her machine.
Fantastic, thank you so much as always Matt!!
I'm so torn between the Tuarus and the Gryphon - I keep leaning more towards Gryphon because I have heard Matt is great - but I'm so torn!
Matt is great. I wouldn't be surprised if he saw your comment! BUT I will say, they are both great machines. You need to objectively look at the pros/cons of both and see which suits you and your wallet best. I am confident in both machines. I would personally pick zephyr. But I use the Taurus and it's separating blade too, because I already had that blade for it.
@@MakenzieHallie follow up question.... lol - I also do a lot of cutting of old china and ceramic pieces (cups, plates, bowls etc) In your opinion having tested them both, which do you think would be able to power through tiny delicate cuts of thick ceramic better? Or more importantly... which do you think could handle that long term / life expectancy. I keep leaning towards the gryphon due to the bigger size, cheaper parts and faster delivery.... but maybe cheaper isn't always better! UGH! lol
Would you say this would be the better cutting tool over a cutters mate?
I would say that's comparing apples to oranges. They both are made to do completely different things! Both great tools if you have the $! Cutters mate is for normal glass cutting. A ring saw is for the rare times you need a specific shape cut out that you cannot possible get cut with any glass cutter.
@@MakenzieHallie Thats the answers I needed. Thank you!
Can this cut acrylic also?
Just remember that intricate cuts are also areas that are more likely to crack over time.
Is it possible to slow down the video? I think it’s a great video but I have a brand new ring saw and I’d like to see it done in slow motion or at least not speeded it up. Thanks so much.
Hello! Is there a specific question you have or something? You can control your playback speed on any video you watch on the video settings, and put it down to .25 speed!
@@MakenzieHallie Thank your for getting back to me ,I found it! Now if I could only use it even close to the way you're gong it I would be happy.
Np! Is it not working correctly? What ring saw do you have?
"Anything in Stained Glass" has these for about 310 dol.
Indeed, I provided that link on my first zephyr video! 🖤
Please send price cif thats machine . Ok. Whit send