Tutorial: Wire Removal in After Effects
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2016
- Sean Mullen of Rampant Design teaches how he did the wire removal for our High Fall Action Scene.
Watch High Fall - • High Fall: A Short Act...
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Remember your grain folks!! There were a lot of patches here but no mention of de-noising the original plate and reapplying grain to sit them better into the comp. Even the best shot footage has some grain so its always good to add this to your freeze frames and photoshop patches.
Man you are awesome, ppl don't realize all the sh*t we need to go through in behind the scene to make things happens.
Thanks for your time and this awesome tutorial.
In my humble opinion you guys are amazing!!! I am just starting to get into editing and I have learned a great deal from you. It shows that you guys care about your viewers really learning and getting it. Your honesty and straight forward approach is so refreshing and phenomenal. I love you guys at Film Riot and all the great people you bring on board for us as your viewers to gain the knowledge we need. This is my film school. Thank you guys!
I don't think that your tutorials are too long. Very informative! Keep up the good tuts :) also love how you are so happy to work hours upon hours to make the director happy
really nice tutorial, love this video! thanks a lot for sharing your work! :)
Extremely well done tutorial! I wish there were more of these around UA-cam to give myself a thorough education on VFX work. If you have some time to do a morphing video as well I'd appreciate it. Great work!
Amazing work! love the details. thank you for this!, learned a few new things!
Absolutely loved this tutorial. Very detailed and clear
fantastic tutorial... and not too long. Knowing the basics is huge. I'd personally be interested in seeing more to the last 2 sequences as well
Thank you!
You did a great job with the last one!
That is a lot of work we can't see. ;) Awesome!
A mention of commotion, that takes me back. Used to love using that, all those handy autopaint tools(I know you can do the same in after effects with tracks etc but it always seemed intuitive in commotion - but that might just be rose tinted glasses speaking)
Sean Mullin is an amazing VFX artist. Great tutorial.
Very real tutorial. Some people think there are magic ways for everything, but sometimes it is detailed work.
finally the video I've been looking for thanks for giving me some tips tho we have in common, I just don't know how to do it, really a big help thanks a lot make some more tutorials ^_^
I'm subscribing :D
Excellent tutorial, thanks a lot!
Thank you for all this knowledge
I have search a long time a tutorial like this! thanks
The best help and ideas to use on a 9 wires removal shot. In this case, a "Fix it in post" classic.
Many Thanks!
Thanks a lot! This is exactly what I was look for! I always questioned whether it was okay to move mask points around as the perspective changes (like a point that was previously on the ear now defining a patch of hair), but the answer appears to be: If you do it frame-by-frame... nice to see it works as "dirty" as that. Thank you!!
Also: ROTOOOO TOOOIME!
Really helpful, thanks!
Wow! I really dug this tutorial!
Glad you liked it! Sean is amazing.
ya he is such a cool dude
Thank you Sean!
Thank you! This helped a lot!
Thanks a lot for another Great Tutorial..I'd really appreciate if you could provide us this footage only the one where wire has to be removed.
Cheers!
ROTO TIME! What are your thoughts on tracking limbs attaching solid and using an alpha matte? Great tutorial by the way.
I faced a similar problem, where there was a clamp visible in the shot, that holds the green fabric on the rig for the green screen, while the actor was moving from the left side the the right side of the frame. My approach was masking and rotoing the clamp instead of rotoing the actor, so I needed only to mask the clamp and change the masks shape loosely, so it covers only the visible parts of the clamp, while the actor was passing in front of it. Would this have been a possible solution for wire replacement in this case, to only roto the patch, where needed, instead of masking the actor to get his face back in the patch?
This is SO dope
Good stuff!
Thanks. Very entertaining!
Curious why you dont use the rotobrush? I do vfx on lots of stop motion rig removal shots and it saves soooo muchhh time!
Hi! Thanks a lot for a very useful video! Do you know where I could find some footage with wires to practice the knowledge? I tried searching the internet, but didn't see any..
"hey, check out the work you can't see!" lol thank you sir
No invisible wires, for wire work?
great video... so good..
Subscribed! 🤩
Muy bueno!
i know this video is a bit old but on 34:56 can you just track the mask now to make it easier because if im correct the mask can be tracked now right?
what tools did u use to morph?
Can you please do a video explaining roto in after effects in depth, please, I still, after watching plenty of videos, don't understand how it actually works, I've been trying different things myself but it's killing me. Either that or reply as to how you roto. Thank you!!!
Can anyone recommend any practice footage to apply these techniques to?
Could you make a video about '' how to make 'mission impossible' movie intro.
How long did this take you, and can I hire you for a project?
where do i get wire? i might need it plz tell me where to buy it thanks
Props to the guy being thrown back and forth over a 1000 times for this video give him a juice box
UA-cam compression is absolutely terrible... Really noticeable here...
Did you make sure you were 1080?
+Film Riot Yep! It's just the artifacting in the shadow areas that drove me nuts!
Hi there Sean. Is there a way for Wire removal using a free software such as Shotcut or any other free software? you guys are doing a great job.
can you do a more difficult shot please :P? i have a rig removal with trees moving besides it.. any ideas?
why do you not use the rotoscope tool? i'd imagine that would make this whole process to a lot faster. also, why no mention of the wire removal tool... since that's kinda what its there for?
Question(s): Are you doing these vfx shots before or after the picture is graded?? Are you working with RAW footage, and how did you deliver it to the editor? Obviously retaining quality is a must and making the workflow as non-destructive as possible.
Also, that morphing technique is incredible! Would love to see a more in-depth look for what you did with that particular shot.
Always before the grade. I sent Sean uncompressed quicktime files.
i rarely see people on youtube use the rotobrush for well, rotoscoping lol is it a bad tool (im still fresh off the after effect noob boat) or just force of habit?
great video but what if you don't have a clean plate, like if the camera moves in the shit?
Why not just use the wire removal preset for some of these frames?
Forgive me if it was mentioned in the video, but why not roto out the wire itself rather than roto-ing the actor? Wouldn't you achieve the same results by masking out the wire and placing it over the empty shot you tracked? From what I understand in this video, you are separating the actor from the wire, and placing that over the empty still. Couldn't you get the same results by separating the wire from the actor frame by frame (which would be much less keyframes since the wire is generally a straight line)?
Great Tutorial because you should how bad wires can be. Nobody really shows how tough wire rigs are. Thanks. OMG he said Elastic Reality. ;-) Old Pro. Wish you could do a tracking Mark removable as well, with c-stands. Thanks.
Hi, It amazes me how complex this looks, yet when I look for someone to show mew how I can add an image on a simple clear and clean straightforward object, they refer me to Mocha saying these things are too difficult... Yet I see something as complex in this video ???
You can't even tell the difference at 360p ;)
LoL
@@SeyhanK17 laughing in 240p
how to download quality footage ?
Man I wanna use wires for some video work but ima make the shot as simple as I can
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I'm curious, why is it that they don't green screen wires(like paint them that fluorescent green)? Wouldn't that speed up the removal process, or does that cause some other issue?
Green screen doesnt work or cannot be edited when the camera moving. Unless you have Special Camera that can Replicate the first camera movement exact 100 percent. Just like in the movie like Transformers or any Hollywood blockbuster movie. Usually indie filmmaker didnt have that equipment.
I experience a little (minimal) loss in quality when exporting from photoshop. I've tried several different export setting now but it keep losing (the same amount of) quality every time. The video file seems to be 8-bit after export what ever I do. Any thoughts?
Found a solution for this: footage should be imported as dpx image-sequence then it will retain the bit values (10 bit in my case)
How to tie up the wire first of all ?
Which software??
I have a question. I just got into the industry, and I think like me, a lot of people got assigned a particular job, wire removal :), my question is that, you mentioned in the vid that you can always paint the wire away, I have encountered a problem doing this, but I did this for larger number continuous frames, the "fixed" area flashed quite noticeable, I tried my best to used similar pixels... is there anyway to fix this??
If you were using content aware in photoshop, you'll always get a slightly different result in each frame resulting in flashing. If you're painting out a string that stays in the same place, use a patch like he did in the first part of the tutorial, so it's the exact same pixels every frame and no flashing is visible.
you can just use wire removal plugin from tara arts
What wires do they even use??
Hey i have a question wouldnt it have been easy to just use the after effects wire removal thingy just saying i mean guide me if i am wrong thank you :)
Wire Removal FX is too simple, you'd also have to deal also with shraph ending points or sometimes the background does not allow you to do it, however you won't be able to get such clean result as this one, never!
+Julian Abreu there's no such thing as "too simple" :p if it works, it works. But in this case it doesn't work so you're right lol.
By too simple i meant that you have little control over it. :)
oh thank you so much :)
That second to last shot is guaranteed to give me nightmares.
It wasn't long, it was beautifull!
so... is there really not just an eraser tool for this? all that rotoing looked like it took forever. why cant you just go frame by frame and erase the little bits of the background that are clipping over his face???
Why roto the face and not the wire itself? I mean, I would think a wire has a simpler shape, right? So, wouldn't that be less work?
In my experience, it's because then you could have the problem of a morphing nose and eye, while the other one stays put. if you morph the whole face, you don't have to worry about having to match your morph with his face too.
Noone's morphing anything. I simply just wouldn't touch anything in the video, except the wire.
awesome!
Doing roto on just the wire has more potential to show up, as your eye will notice a slim line, even when feathered. The best thing to do is use larger soft patches and then roto back on top the original plate - it takes more time but you're guaranteed not to see a small area where your wire once was. You can see this in the video when he demonstrates After Effects cloning to paint out the wire itself.
Oh, okay, thanks for the explanation.
is there any reason why you didnt use rotobrush? It's kinda slow when you play it back a it can sometimes do weird stuff, but it does a lot of work for you...thansk fr the video :)
Rotobrush isn't always as accurate and can actually introduce more problems than solve.
Oh, I have a question. Is it possible to open an after effects file in mocha PRO or do I have to render it out in AE (or premiere) and then import it?
You can simply selecting the layer in After Effects you wanna track in mocha, then go to Animation --> Track in Mocha AE. The bundled version of Mocha opens up allowing you to check if the fps, par etc.. are correct, after that you can enjoy your tracking in Mocha! :)
why not roto the wire out on the clean plate instead of the guy...
He said "Commotion". He has a lot of experience. ;-)
i want a morphing tutorial!!!! but im not demanding....haha
agreed!
that would be cool! at least a simple one, or recommend one!
Man, that's a shit load of work. Kind of relieved, I was making some stupid shit in AE and some of the editing took so long. Hats off, I guess this line of work can be as tedious as an accountancy role. :|
One person is like "whaaaaat?"
footage
a like it
You mean I can't just press a button?
I just came here 3 years later to say... I hate roto like I hate a nail in my foot.
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the good stuff wasn't mentioned ;-)
Well…
there are about 20 wires in that first shot. I even saw ropes!!!
One wire?! What lazy kind of wire removal is that?
Well, only in the colonies … LOL.
20 hours for one shot?!
You are totally inefficient.
TIME - COST - QUALITY, pick *one*
20 hours for a difficult VFX shot is not a lot at all. Unless you are doing a half-ass job with no revisions.
I thiiiink he's playing a character. But you're both right.
Film Riot A"difficult VFX shot"? Tell that to the Star wars VFX slaves from 1976 or to a Disney in-betweener from the 1950s..
This here was just zapping a single wire...
Ah gotcha, you are trolling.