The Frozen in Time Effect!
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- Опубліковано 24 кві 2013
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I'm laughing at the idea of anyone watching this tutorial being able to do this.
Lol sees red cam and automatically thnks it's impossible. Well aftereffects cc comes with c4d and it has a decent tracker. Or you could just get the student version of maya and motion builder is also free just go to autodesk's site. So all you really need is people standing still with aftereffects and modeling 3d objects is easy. If you don't get a good track just put contrasting markers all over the place to get you 3d to stick better. You only need the expensive camera if your digitally zooming or putting it up on a biggscreen and you only need the motorized rig if your doing a long complex shot.
I know this late but it is possible. The only reason they need that rig with the camera to do the same motions over and over again is because there are mutiple shots of Kessler fighting people and he has to be in a new location. If you had two different people interacting at different intervals just standing in their positions already then you can do it in one motion. Then if you do some research and learn how to use 3d software viola! I did the same effect but went about 360 degrees around my actors and Bammy Wham!
***** The medium difficulty is for the first part, combining the actors together, not the second half. The second half was in there just to give a look at a higher end way to do that. Half of the 3D assets (Flames, rocket, bullet, etc...) were put in using only After Effects with Element 3D (which we use on the show all the time and is very affordable)... Those assets were also tracked in using AE's built in tracker... Also, if you have AE you have Mocha, which has one of the best trackers out in my opinion.
For the camera, you don't need a RED Epic. Any DSLR would be just fine.
Makes me sad to see so many people miss the point of an episode like this. You might not be able to do this right now, but this is good info to take and make your own, in your own way... And to give you a leg up in the event you find yourself with this gear.
***** What are you talking about? You don't need a RED to get a good track. A DSLR works just fine. Get a good lens and go outside in the daytime. Look at that, no noise. If motion is a problem then bump up the shutter speed and don't wave the camera like a madman. Problem solved. But lets say you do have some noise. Do you think these 3D tracking programs are weak. They are powerful tools and that is why they are expensive. If you get rid of bad tracks, average out your high and lows, and make sure the best tracks are on screen for long periods of time then these programs can usually handle it. Better yet, before you go home and pop the footage into your computer make sure you have a clean shot before you start to put effects on it. Nobody said it was easy but you also don't have to make it this difficult.
***** You mentioned a very clean noise free output. Also, about chroma sub sampling, you are making things more difficult than they need to be. Talking about an encoding scheme doesn't help your argument that this can't be achieved. I can understand peoples frustration that many of the things used in this video were high end products but the reason this was medium difficulty was because the concept is not hard. Good equipment doesn't automatically mean it's difficult. Look you are already familiar with 3D software(I watched your little video of particles) and you know that you can do this effect so why argue it. Are you still arguing because you truly believe people can't do this or are you at the point now where you see a notification to this conversation and feel you have to defend your opinion?
Guys, why are you all complaining? Just suck it up and buy the damn thing. I bought mine about a month ago and I love it! Sure I went bankrupt, lost my house, my car, my job, my wife, my kids and my entire life but it was totally worth it! I now have more free time to shoot these awesome frozen effect videos whenever I want to!!! :D
Chris Wolfe / MysticNRG 531
You forgot to mention the kidney.
Lowkey Chris yeah , I hate seeing everyone freakin complaining , if you can't do it ... than don't do it !
I'm sure somebody could build it in wood with some gears. For this one shot that would make do. No need for "fully controllable", if you keep the set simple. If you have some money left over, you could buy the controllable slider from Edelkrone for 2 Grand, it's more than enough.
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Watch this
Please
Or you could rent it, just saying dude from 1 year ago. I doubt they bought it.
Difficulty: Medium.
Does that mean it's medium difficulty because you had a Red + a wildly elaborate digital camera rig - each of which probably cost about the same as a small economy car - and handed off the incredibly complex editing that was beyond even the scope of AE...
or you just think this is medium difficulty in general?
*****
Yes, renting is a fantastic option for those who live in a country where this is available. I work overseas and there's not a chance in hell I could rent something like this.
Not to mention the idea that if I did rent it and have it sent by mail, I'd probably have to pay 20% just to get it into the country.
Not everything that requires a camera happens in big cities in the US.
I haven't tried it, but you should be able to make trade offs like using Film Riot's diy slider if you don't need such a complex shot, or using blender for the cg + motion tracking. I agree though, to pull off this type of shot you need a lot of 3D training
***** There's a very good reason there are no serious international equipment: A person could just rent stuff and keep it. A $25000 RED? Pocketed. Want to put a lawsuit? Don't think for a second it will cost anywhere near that.
A partner company with ours is involved in a lawsuit for 1.3 million dollars against a US defendant and a TW defendant. They are considering it "not worth the effort" to go after the TW defendant.
The only alternative to it would be to go the insurance route - which often ends up costing the insured more than the cost of the equipment in the long run.
Also, consider the fact that the renting person would probably have to pay both ridiculous shipping *and* (which often approaches the cost of the stuff for the stuff that isn't RED cameras) possibly get stung for import taxes (can *sometimes* be claimed back later, but paperwork and initial outlay...)
I am constantly trying to buy stuff from the US like man-sized shirts, underwear and deodorant and it's often just as much for shipping... If I also had to send it back....
Imagine renting a $500 jib crane, renting it for 50 bucks for the weekend, paying $150 for shipping, $150 to send it back and getting hit for $100 on taxes and import fees. $450 for a crane for a weekend.
That's why it's not that great of a business idea.
That's why I own all my own equipment and DIY most of my accessories. I have full 4 foot tall soft boxes (made by me), sliders with weight based timers, specialized tripod heads, a Merlin II (and a better DIY version as well) as a "50 Cal" and many other goodies.
DIY on a setup like in this video is a bit more than my wrench-twisting can handle though.
No editing was handed off. But I did have help with the 3D animation, is that what you meant? Either way, the main idea behind this is the actors frozen in time, which I did. The RED EPIC wasn't needed for this, a DSLR would have worked fine, just would have taken a bit more set up.
For the CineDrive... Are you saying that we should never show how to use pro gear? Or teach anything beyond beginning amateur projects? How would that help aspiring filmmakers? The episode following this one gives an idea of how to do the same thing with none of the high-end gear. The point here is to see behind the scene of how we did this so others can do the same if/when they get the budget for the gear... What makes me face-palm a bit from your comment is... Would you want to go to a film school that only showed you how to do things using your iPhone?
We are trying to offer info to hopeful filmmakers, it may not all be for you.
Film Riot Oh I was just being cheeky about the fact that it was described as "difficulty - medium". I'm totally fine with using better gear and more advanced equipment. Perhaps my word choice was wrong when I said "editing" was handed off. I should have said "a big chunk of the post-processing workflow" was handed off. Certainly this is acceptable as it is the standard for how these types of specialized FX shots are done in many film efforts.
I just found some irony in the idea of a "how to" showing step 1, step 2, step 3, then hand it to a company that can do this sort of thing, step 5 step 6...
It's a bit like saying "how to install cabinets - clear your kitchen, set up a ladder and an extension cord, then call a cabinet installer, and clean up when he's done". I'm a pretty small scale video maker, but as the complication factor goes up, I usually find that I have *less* available resources/friends/money etc that can help me do that stuff, so I just have to buckle down and learn it myself. I think I am not alone here in your audience. Let's face it, not everyone is going to have the chance to go to film school.
For the purposes of a video like this though, I think it's fair that the wildly complicated 3D anim portion was handed off. I just thought it was ironic.
The comment above about the RED was in reference to the idea of an international rental company. High dollar items would never be returned and it would be very expensive and difficult for the company to do anything about it. Moderately priced and lower priced items wouldn't be worth it due to shipping costs and import duty hassle.
that node bade compositer just blew my mind
Medium Difficulty hmmm ..
yea, with a rig it's not hard to do it. Without the rig it's nearly impossible the get the same shot. they did it with a rig
xD "Its So Hard We Agree"
After watching this video, I've just realized how noob I am.
Lol same af
you are not alone lol
soon as he got to the lighting in the 3d software ..i respectively stop watching because clearly I'm not on that level yet *sad face * lmao nah seriously I'm really crying fr
you are not alone...
haha right!
welcome to the club 😂😂
Thanks for the efforts of showing us this EXTREMELY "medium" difficulty stuff, really appreciate! I'll rewatch when I built my next DIY Ipad controlled camera rig ;-)
The medium difficulty is in the technique, not obtaining the gear. You get the gear through renting, etc... This specific tut is not a DIY tutorial. Our show covers everything from DIY to pro. If you want to be a filmmaker, you need all of that, not just no-budget ideas. Hope this helps.
Of course it's about the technique, and i was actually intentionally sarcastic seeing what amount of work you consider "medium difficulty" On my bachelor (game audio design) i did a lot of work using advanced game engines what included building an entire working game level with all its mechanics, playability, user interaction, all working audio and all the stuff.
Some parts of it were pretty similar to what u showed in the 3d software part, It took me 3 years of studying to get to that point and i was rather good in that!
So after watching this tut i asked myself if this is medium then what is "expert" building my own a camera? ;-)
Don't get me wrong, i like your videos and i like ur sense of humour but i think in this one u got too far beyond what a youtube tut really should look like and i think you dissapointed some or made them feel like total amateurs :)
It should generally be something that any smarter casual film maker will be able to do... other than that ...keep doing the great job ! :-)
Nah man. That's the wrong attitude. Our show is about showing how to make films - from every department and experience level. If someone just wants to do it as a hobby on the side and never really go pro, that's fine and we have plenty of videos for that. But this episode is for those that are looking to go beyond that, or are at this level and just need inspiration. Episodes that are too simplistic will disappoint our more advanced views, and episodes that are more advanced will disappoint our more amateur viewers. It's a balance, and a needed one for sure.
I thought so too in the beginning but tbh even if you can't get the expensive gear I think you can really use some aspects of it in a DIY way. I mean of course not everything exactly, but you can figure some out right, ;) that's where the fun is
+Film Riot well done nearly 900000 subs
Watching these videos make me feel smart
I know aye
Difficulty: Medium.
what.
Which song is used?
If you know than please tell me
just asking, who has a 5k camera with a rig for like 75,000$ to do this?
gamelerfish well shit...
you can always film normally without any kind of rig, all you need to is stabilise the footage later
Peter Valente
Then you wouldn't be able to get the exact same shot needed to recreate the original clip (thus after effects masking process)
People who are professionally considering this as a career.
The people that rent out cameras for indie films...
Medium difficulty... if you have $50,000 in loose change.
ikr
I have no idea why they even made this tutorial. If people are getting this for their filmmaking then they probably and should already know how to do this
Film riot is amateur when it comes to vfx.
DDIY! Don't Do It Yourself! It's hurting my brain!
I feel sorry for your brain mate... :P
gaminger1 dont feel sorry for his brain m8 , its jus phantom pains trickin him as a ghost ;)
Too many dots 😂
Sometimes things happen. Just be more excited for when the episode does go live :)
Why does this have the old player?
Weird you're right
Because this video is frozen in time :D
+AshTheMinecraft you're right
+AshTheMinecraft
It both has the old player, and it won't play for me
What is happeninggg
+AshTheMinecraft yeah??
I am so glad to finally see a really big indie/DIY filmmaker channel show the professional side of things. Keep it up!
I was like OMG this is the coolest effect ever, then I figured out it was just my connection buffering.... LOL great job guys!
When you realize the creators of deadpool watched filmriot.. xD
I mean.. Yeah. xD I was joking because its the same idea. xD
"The other guys" made first at 2010.
Dang, this is their version of "medium" difficulty....
First post ever: watching for several years, so glad to see you guys getting the attention of some major players. The effect looks great. Just spreading the LOVE.
You guys are brilliant! Please keep it coming!
You guys are getting really professional, good work!
@@kartikeysrivastava7864 and u too
#mannequinchallenge before it was cool
Ant Vic lol
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As khan my channel
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I found this channel the other week. Thank you soooo much. Your videos are extremely helpful.
My favourite film riot effect that I've seen ever!
The original mannequin challenge
Step one: Have all of the moneys
I cannot stop watching these effect, cool stuff no doubt.
loved this! got so many ideas floating around from it.
So inform! Wow! now all i need is a fucking Red. Plus a thomas the choo choo train track with a jarvis programmed into it and a james bond ipad.
You don't need a RED. A BMPC4K would handle the scene absolutely fine.
+theeltea even a camcorder could do
LMFAO
Next, can you guys make a video on how to make a Saturn V rocket? It would be really helpful.
+Bryce Washburn
Haha! Or the Taj Mahal all over again, real time, real life!!!
That effect is so smooth!
Film Riot Coolest thing I've seen on UA-cam. Ever.
If this is medium what will be difficult...
SaNiN Ek right?
"MORE OF AN IN-DEPTH" haha
Film Riot is my Motivation to Film and Also my heart for Filmmaking. But mainly Film RIot!
Truly breathtaking work with virtually no glitches. The only slightly distracting bit I saw in this was right at the beginning when you look past the door and through the window to the fence. During its time on-screen you can see how some of the pickets jump, indicating a splice. That's the only blip in a mind-blowing shot. But don't sweat the small stuff - in the soon-to-be-legendary opener to CSI Season 10 their Medical Examiner doesn't have a cane in his hand...then he does. With thousands of digital elements moving around and production spread over the course of a month and a half, there are going to be mistakes. :)
+Film Riot is this how the mannequin challenge start?🤔
the original mannequin challenge
Wow thank you so much for this episode, I just learnt one of the most important things in compositing I will ever learn!!
i started watching this channel when my vfx software of choice was final cut pro X and i was 11. the second half of this video boggled my mind. now i'm at scad for VFX, i'm learning maya and nuke (still much more confident in blender and AE) and despite the older software, i fuckin understand all this shit!!! hell yeah !!!! thank you film riot for starting me on this path
OMG i never knew this is so easy
freeze time:
everyone does the mannequin challenge
I couldn't afford to go to film school so I learn everything from Filmroit. These guys are the best..
Holy cow. Those VFX man, that's incredible. Really though, knowing how to do all of that, that's amazing. Mr.Stark indeed.
you helped me a lot! I will be using this on my videos! earn a new sub.
Really?
Hello
Mannequin challenge was 3 years early 😂
Thank you, This was a great episode.
I really admire all of you guys like Paul and Stark(ybabyboo) who have practiced and work so hard simultanious lay above and below the creative line, doing this very creative yet incredibly technical craft.
mannequin challenge? hahaa
this reminds me of the start of deadpool
exactly what I was thinking
same here! xD
Difference was that that entire sequence was CGI. So they could actually animate that in slow motion from the get go. :P
As a young film maker, I aspire to do things like this. I really need a place where I can learn beginer things so I can move on to more advanced stuff like this.
Wow! You guys did an amazing job.
DO YOUR OWN QUICKSILVER SCENE!!
He did
+vincetoms like in slow motion??
Yolostabber99 no, his qs scene was more like flash or when qs played ping pong
I think I got a migraine from the Tracking and 3D Part @_@
+Ray Digital All those lines and geometry haha
Lol
Great work guys. Keep it up 👍👍👍
This is amazing! I know this took a lot of hard work to do this, because I know how long it takes to edit stuff and get it perfect! I love love love to edit and I'm hoping to get just as good as this. I'm 16 and I want to major in media production, and I think this channel will help me out soooo much :) Thank you for doing what you love because it helps other people like me. Keep it up :)
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AWESOME!!! But yeah...never going to do it !
however, flying objects can be done more easily with wires.
no 3D software, just more masking
That's how we did the paddle ball in the back.
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+Marian Iancov Ott is a slang for weed in germany :D
Hi. Im not sure I understand why you say this sir.
Marian Iancov You said the budget is ott :D
The First and Best mannequin challenge ever!
It makes so much sense now ! ❤
10:32 ...haha, and then this gentleman says he can/will do an "IN DEPTH" tutorial with this, hahhahhahahaahahahahahah...
why was this medium difficulty?
Olov Svedjeland Ödlund 6:50 gods software is why
This is amazing! Thanks for sharing
Very informative episode. Thank you.
Reminds me of deadpool opening scene
Anybody else give up half way through?
Elijah Greg yeah
*tongue snapping against roof of mouth sound* noice... really nice guidelines to creating your own frozen effect! This looks like a fun project i can do over the weekend and/or week, i’m trying to recreate the intro from the deadpool movie but a more ghetto bobo way of it 😹. This really helps!!!
dude that looked AWEEEESOME!!!! holy shit!!!!
They predicted the mannequin challenge from 2016.
Medium my ass
Ok my favorite new action funny guys! Great work!!!
This is so coool! I've always wanted to learn this. Thanks
I should've done this for the mannequin challenge
Video says DIY.....Yeah because everyone got that 5k expensive ass rig
i kind of just sat there and was like "Yeah, I totally understand this."
Awesome effect
Nailed the Mannequin Challenge
i think this difficulty is hard!
whau!!! a lot of great work!
amazing guys. well done.
It might be easier to sync about 1000 gopros and throw some stuff into the air. Probably cost about the same as well. #Sarcasm
its really hard to understand....and they should tell everything in detail
+piyush sharma i agree
i just fell in love with it. its so good
What you'll need:
Actors
After Effects
a BaJillion dollars playa!
Muahhahahaha!! :)
This was a great BTS of what it takes for a shot like this. It was as complicated to do as it looked! Respect!
R.I.P. Softimage :(
Great tutorial, no way to achieve similar effect without expensive gear ?
My dude, if you're willing to get a little "creative" you can still get it... And other software as well as games, movies, and other media that's become unavailable. And also stuff that's available but is a little too expensive for you... If you catch my drift ;)
DIFFICULT:MEDIUM!!!???
Aaaah!!! I can´t believe this is 8 years old already...!!! 😲😲😲
oh man this is awesome! now i got ideas running through my head like crazy! kudos! =)
mannequin challenge before it was cool
Anyone else' UA-cam layout look like the old one?
me
It's b/c it's frozen in time. Duh.
IKR
me
How did he do that?
I totally agree with you and my goal is to get to that point, however I am currently only in highschool and do not have a job...I don't even have my own camera haha. I'm just using my teacher's T4i. Mainly what I was asking was how hard it would to be do it with a DIY pvc dolly system, but your Easy Freezy video answered my question haha....thanks Ryan! and keep up the awesome work!
The song is "It's My Life" by Gregory J. Hainer
thank u so much
*****
God bless you, I couldn't find it anywhere.
is anyone having an old youtube video player like me?
Yeah! Never saw this before..
yeah... its weird
lmao yea
its weird
Glad I'm not the only one lol
how the fuck your computer can handle all that shit??
+DontE make sense
You guys are getting so much fucking better. Holy crap.
Great episode :)
Or... just do the mannequin challenge
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Watch this
This was well worth it
old youtube video player
yes
Yeah why is that?
Very beautifully done
I completely forgot I'd helped out in this episode. Glad I did a search - I'm teaching a university class and some students wanted to know about this effect. Now I just have to dig up all the source files.