Mahalo to Jeremy Lee and the team at KITV for sticking to this story, so many of us appreciate your efforts to shed more light on all this. It's getting more and more damning as the county tries to ignore requests for answers and pieces of the puzzle are being put together..
You want answers? Go to the people on the news who are not being interviewed. They are the real one’s telling real stories. They are picking ones to fit the narrative which is all falsely BS witnesses
It'll never happen unfortunately. Bissen to scared to show his face. Green will stay on Oahu, and determine how we rebuild from there, lining his pockets, selling maui out.
Are you telling us HECO, those downed powerlines blocking the roadways OUT of Lahaina were not energized?! Is this an admittance Maui PD unnecessarily blocked exit routes because of downed powerlines which were not energized?! Truly?! People were prevented from escaping as a result of no communication between HECO and Maui Police Department and other emergency services? Neglect! Neglect!!! This is murder.
To be perfectly honest this is much more common then you think. Its not murder, it is incompetence. That falls on all the people who failed to take initiative as well. Why didn't anyone get out of their vehicles and talk to the cops to figure out what was going on?
@@LauraVillasenor-bf8ni I hope you recognize that Hawaii Power is dealing with multiple lawsuits and is engaging in a campaign to clear their name and/or cast doubt. Until Discovery within the lawsuit it's all conjecture.
This looks so bad for all involved. They need to be drug down main street straight to the harbor, while we the people line the streets and pelt them with rotten fruit on their way to being shipped off island. Gross negligence caused a disaster. The response has been a tragedy. We are Aloha strong!
As someone that lived 40 years in south Florida’s hurricane alley, I can only say that this is the worst thing I’ve ever seen. Not getting emergency notifications means the death rate will be astronomical in any situation. Timely notifications should be standard EXPECTATION for every American taxpaying citizens.
ESPECIALLY IN HAWAII WHERE THEY HAVE CONDITIONED THE PEOPLE TO RELY ON "OFFICIALS" TO USE THEIR SIREN SYSTEM IN CASE OF EMERGENCY WHICH THEY TEST ONCE A MONTH - NO EXCUSE FOR THIS!
The utter hypocrisy of all of this is that if any Hawaii citizen was delinquent or resistant to things like jury summons, paying their electric bill, not registering their car, not paying estimated taxes, etc. - these entities are on us like flies on stink. BUT try to get any of these entities to be responsible, accountable or truthful to the people - its all about pass the buck, cover up, stonewall.
Here’s another question, who was manning the civil defense aka. Maui Emergency Management Agency office at the county building during the high winds and eventually the devastating fire in Lahaina and Kula? My knowledge is that during times of an emergency the Mayor would have all his department directors and deputy directors at the civil defense office. All communications coming in and going out occur in that room throughout the duration of the emergency. The person in charge in that room is the key communicator to the Mayor’s division heads and then they communicate to all sectors of the community as and where needed. Obviously, there was a massive failure OR the Mayor’s division heads were never in that civil defense room to begin with and THAT is why the Mayor was quoted “ I don’t know who was in charge”. Book um Dano!
@@LonnieBrewer-dd4wi Are you saying your original comment was sarcasm? Or are you saying my response to yours was sarcasm. You suck at communicating on the internet. Nobody can read your mind.
What a joke that the county wants to blame H.E for the county;s failure to warn the public to evacuate. The mayor, the police chief and the governor are responsible for not doing a thing when things started, sounds like the meeting they had on Oahu was more important then peoples lives. Just saying it is way to coincidental for everything to happen after the governor wanted Maui to have the first smart city and now trying to think of ways to take the land from the people as we saw a clip in an interview. They must be hiding something in Lahaina when you put up fencing and have a no fly drone zone or a media blackout of the area, I can understand the drone thing where alot of people would be stupid enough to have hundreds of drones buzzing the area but fencing and media blackout....yeah right
And still won't let people go to their homes in the affected area that have pets trapped inside. Today is the 35th day since the fire, so most have probably not survived this long without food and water. 😿 🐕
I reviewed the Governor message the evening of the fire just on a hunch. His so called new path forward was a plan and that original message page is now gone. Why they take it down?
I do not understand why not use the warning sirens and police sirens and loudspeakers to *warn* the folk in every street! Why starts to blame this private organisation or that government organisation do this or that wrong? That not helps really. I thinking every adults should known that typically wood houses burn in fire - so that they evacuation the folks early helps. Why they wait for the fire after they talk before that they think, it could happend a power line (with plastic around!) make a fire! Exactly at this point... 😮
@@OldLordSpeedybecause they wanted the ppl who owns the land to die, simple as that and those that managed to survive are expected to sell for pennies on the dollar. It's not a coincidence that the same happened in 2017 fires. Believe it or not but the powers that be are indeed capable of such atrocious acts on their own citizens.
All emergency management leaders "just happened to be" on Oahu that day discussing emergency management. How convenient. Considering the fact that the exact same type of fire happened in the exact same place 4 years ago. Petitions and public outcry were sent to the county to correct the county failures that created the environment that allowed that fire 4 years ago and they did NOTHING. Now we have this. When incompetency and dereliction of duty become so egregious, one must consider the possibility of intention neglect.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been watching KITV's broadcasts since the fire. Is it possible the only major network affiliate in the country that actually tries to report facts is in Hawai'i?
That seems to be the same across the US - if you want to know what's really happening in a city/area check out the LOCAL newscasts. You're more likely to find coverage there because the locals live in the area and are impacted by the events more personally than any of the talking-heads on the mainstream media mega-channels be it cable news or broadcast channels.
Mahalo nui loa for referring to it as a "self evacuation of Lahaina" as that's exactly what it was! Reliance only on instincts and each other to get out and survive or perish in the chaos! Keep pushing the truth of what happened that horrific day.
Thank you for asking these kinds of questions. Keep pushing for answers. Authorities want this stuff to be forgotten and to just go away. Please keep pressing for answers. 🙏
Wait, if the power was turned off, then the lines that were on the road weren’t live and posed no threat to people. So…people could have driven right over the power lines. If the lines were not receiving electricity by, how did the original fire, which I’ve heard had been put out and had firefighters monitoring it for several hours before being called away, start up again? And how was that fire put out if the water was turned off?
Even if the lines are dead, they will get caught up in the wheels of vehicles trying to cross them, people can't get past the poles and many of them were down. Take a look at the first minute of this video, cars are getting tangled up in lines. Were the police supposed to wave them into a mess like that with no escape possible. At least the people in the cars stuck in traffic could run into the ocean. ua-cam.com/video/Qg2sfqTiGnc/v-deo.html
@@BRS5 I suppose so. I hadn’t seen the video with the poles down. It just seems like there were a lot of efforts made to keep people in danger. Idk why people just didn’t get out of their cars and run. Perhaps they assumed that any minute the traffic would get going and that they wanted the speed of the car. But at the same time, I wonder why the officers, who must have been able to see what was coming, didn’t start running from car to car telling people the road was blocked by power lines and get out and run! Plus I saw a video yesterday made by a survivor that showed electric company trusts blocking two lanes trying to replace downed power lines! Wait! There’s a fire! Please clear the poles and lines away!
Really?? You think “they” whoever that is was trying to kill everybody?? Wow!! That is pretty crazy!! I don’t think so. Crazy wind blew down the poles…nobody could communicate.
And what about August 7th at 10:46PM when we see a flash in the woods via the Maui Bird Conservatory security camera, then flames, then we're shown the next morning and two people attempting to put out the fire on the grass across the road from the conservatory. Why is that video of the two people in the morning missing the time stamp?
I hear that all the time and yet checking I don't find that at all Hawaiian Electric Industries, Inc is parent co of. Hawaii electric company and the owner is Thomas B Fargo
@@msheart2 Check again. He's chairman of the board as of 2020. NOT the "owner". Shareholders NameEquities%Valuation The Vanguard Group, Inc. 11.33 % 2023-01-24 - BlackRock Inc. has filed an SC 13G form with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) disclosing ownership of 10,211,814 shares of Hawaiian Electric Industries, Inc. (US:HE). This represents 9.3 percent ownership of the company. In their previous filing dated 2022-02-01 , BlackRock Inc. had reported owning 9,627,036 shares, indicating an increase of 6.07 percent.
@@jaybleu6169 Normally, probably not, no…. BUT yes it is weird when one is the worse mass sh*%ting in US history and the other is the worse wildfire in history.
There's no conspiracy, relax!! The company is keeping quiet to protect themselves from liability, and I'm sure there's some idiot lawyer telling them to do it.
@@shake741 You are so off base it is sad. When did it become cool to oppose every "conspiracy theory" and only believe what government and media say? You think you are the smart informed person who knows what's up, but you are actually less intelligent than the average teenager who has no life experience.
@@shake741 you are a perfect example of what the government looks for in its people - a person who is naive enough to accept what they say and not ask questions. if you are not asking questions, you are not a critical thinker. be open in learning to be one
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdomcurious how The very ones receiving the raise were the very ones who voted on it ,you would think this should be up to the community...
@@nicholasholloway8743 Yeah, you would think so, but look at the US Presidents, when has US civilians ever voted on the raises that US Presidents have gotten? Never! A US President can be impeached, but look at how hard a process it is & US citizens have no part in it, although they SHOULD. When government officials are voted in, there should be biannual votes to see if he (or she) is allowed to continue as President, that’s how impeachments SHOULD work. Same with raises, the people should vote in it. And even taxes, each citizen should be able to dictate where they want their tax money to go when they do their taxes… this percentage to schools, this percent to infrastructure, this percent to welfare services etc etc. And all government spending should be transparent where citizens can go online and see where money is going. Citizens should be granted veto power over bills & spending (like billions upon billions going to aid foreign countries). But, that makes too much sense for them to do it, and it would make it impossible for them to swindle money.
I was up in honokowai early am on August 8 talking to my dad at 4 am and the power went off in Lahaina and Honokowai. We actually got up that morning and drove thru Lahaina that morning and there was still no power in Lahaina or at our home in Honokowai. When I was talking to my dad the power went out around 4 am! He works and I called him to see if he was ok which I usually do because he always gets home late! He is 80 years old
Hawaiian electric has to be a trillion dollar company by now. They are the only electric company in all of Hawaii! Their rates are ridiculously high! And I don’t recall if they have packages to choose from but think about it. They get to charge their ridiculous rates to all the businesses and residents. I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a hand in this fire for long term gain by being the only supplier for a green city.
The police, the county, and Hawaiian Electric all pointing fingers at each other. The videos from citizens speak the truth. They are all to blame. Please continue to report on this and keep the pressure on.
Kihei south to Wailea/Makena is one giant deadend with the Government allowing more and more development without building a road up to Kula. A fire there with strong northerly tradewinds would trap everyone. Not such great planning.
It's obvious to me that the EOC wasn't stood up properly nor were there communications with all the personnel! They didn't have any idea what to do so these police units freelanced. Yes freelanced` because of panic caused by the EMO not doing his job during the past 5 years. This incident ideally should have been handled as a unified command. The Mayor ,the EMO, the Police Chief, Maui County Fire Chief, the Airport Fire Chief, The EMS Chief, Public Works Chief, HECO Chief , and National Guard should have all been in the EOC communicating with their people . The EMO should have had a binder in his hands labelled Urban Interface Fires ,and one for each other type of incident, It's obvious he didn't. who's ultimately responsible? The Mayor, the EMO, the Fire Chiefs, Police Chief, the Public Works Chief,HECO Chief should be thoroughly investigated, and held responsible.
The need for truthful information on just how those poles came down. Including that very first one. That was when the winds were not bad enough to be blowing over poles. Why would they have poles being repaired at a time when evacuations are going on along with the horrific fire????
Jeremy Lee and his crew Full Deserve an Award for Investigative Journalism... And the Management at KITV Deserves an Award for Standing by this reporter and airing The TRUTH. Mahalo... Thank You for being a news station that Actually Does what the citizens Expect the news to do... Report the Facts. Prayers for Kula and Lahaina 🙏☮️✌️🌎✌️☮️🙏
A lot of crazy stuff happened that day. Fires on the dry side of an island with wind nobody saw coming. No communication miscommunication, and the State of Hawaii the county just being useless as usual. If you lost friends, family, livelihood or possessions. You have every right to be pissed off.🤙🏿
The weather service issued a red flag fire hazard warning due to dry conditions and expected high winds. People who paid attention to weather warnings were aware that high winds were expected. Once the fires were started by downed power lines, there was little chance that the fire department could stop them all. The county of Maui didn't start the fires. HECO did.
@@frankmartin8471how are we certain that this was "downed power lines" from what I've been reading, those lines are comm lines with no current, this doesn't add up.
Were there any high wind warnings and preparations as they knew a hurricane was passing by? I know it wasn't coming ashore, but they must have known it was going to create high winds.
Kaua'ula Wind(Google it) is known to occur in that exact valley and blow toward Lahaina. But I don't think the weather service has studied the circumstances that produce it in particular. They did issue a Red Flag warning for Aug 7th to the 9th. I assume Red Flag means "high wind" and "fire danger".
Here’s the thing, Lāhainā is known for strong winds even without a hurricane nearby, because there’s long valleys right there and wind going over the mountain from the other side of the island get trapped in the valley and come flying out at the bottom (where this fire started & where all wildfires start, as far as I know, in Lāhainā), so even if the wind in the rest of Hawai’i wasn’t strong enough to warrant a wind advisory, the concentration of wind out of the valley in Lāhainā would be much stronger typically. The winds out of the valley there are famous, people spoke of it even before colonizers arrived… the difference is we had a lot of trees throughout Lāhainā to act as a shield from those winds. Then colonizers came, brought plantation owner land grabbers who diverted water out of Lāhainā to their plantations which caused Lāhainā to dry up and on top of that cattle ranchers moved in and replaced all of the native fauna with non-native dry grasses for cattle feed. And since then Lāhainā has essentially been a kindling box with the valleys blowing any small embers into wildfires.
If county officials were meeting on the 3rd floor of the county building, wouldn’t there be records of it (ie officials using county issued laptops/computers or images of county officials entering/exiting the county building at specific times)?
Yet ppl are eating up the "downed lines narrative". DEW more than likely. You seen those green lasers ppl be popping balloons with? Imagine that scaled up by a Factor of 50. That's what caused this fire.
You need to get your information correct. What I saw was a truck with the logo ROKSTAD not Hawaiian Electric. Before reporting you folks need to go frame by frame and report accordingly.
The book Fire & Fury came out while the fires were still going! The author was quick to blame climate change. It was on Amazon for a while but pulled off
So you have very dangerous fires knocking down power lines during an evacuation and the power company is saying to themselves, "Well boys, we better get these power lines back up."
@0:52 you say HECO claims to have _”shut off power to ALL of west Maui as of the morning of August 8th”_ but the resorts in Ka’anapali were lit up that night, were they using generators or some backup system that’s capable of running that long?? Ooooor what?!?
How's holding folks back in a barricade (because orders) hence causing extreme casualties not a form war, especially since the kamaaina are held back from THEIR land and said land may never be returned to the rightful owner??
Thank you for not letting this go. We shall know if the screws have been tightened as we will go looking for justice for Lahainans in the coming months and years.
Who is going to pay for all these lawsuits?? Everybody in the state will triple electric bill. We will pay for it. The winds blew over trees, tore roofs off of houses, and blew over utility poles!! The blown over utility poles cause fiber optics to be cut. I believe that happened around 12:30 and 1:00pm I believe nobody had ability to communicate BEFORE the 3:00 raging wild 🔥 fire. Why does everybody gotta blame somebody??? It was the WIND. We ALL experienced it in Lahaina that day. Why do you have to hold someone responsible? It was the wind
@@kaohelomusic8046 What was neglected?? When you see what I saw….those HUGE power poles did summersaults. It was unbelievable!! Huge trees down Everywhere. I am here looking at it every day. I see metal roofs stuck in the trees. It’s beyond crazy
Just to let you know, those trucks on the roads look like communication company trucks. At 0:54 seconds, those are comm lines being cut down. Power company would not be cutting those lines down. The news needs to do a better job when researching their info. At 2:29, those are comm lines on the ground and the truck looks like a comm company truck. This is common during storms for comm lines and poles to fall due to the weight of the cables.This happened on Oahu during hurricane Iniki.
Jeremy just provide more and more questions stirring the pot, a lot of insinuations and very little information. Some how for Jeremy HECO responsibilities are the firefighters and police fault.
Hawaian Electric is judged based on after facts. They were not communicated properly about evacuation and it is commendable that they started the restoration efforts quickly. So the scapegoaters are moving the goalpost, kind of pathetic
Here' and idea. All the people who have been misplaced b/c of the fire should start calling out Oprah to open her acreage for the people. The more people do it and have you ad others like you post it. Call them all out, ie. Besos, Duane, Zucker berg, Hanks, and the others have have taken the Hawaiians land.
A home owner knocked over a power pole,then THEY blamed the electric company,it's really horrible what's going on, trying to live for free and not accept it as a accident as it really is
Even if emergency management didnt communicate wi th maui electric, they could see that there was a fire.i think that this was arson.this was intentional, but i dont know who is respondible.
The local Maui government is suing the power company for failure to maintain their infrastructure and starting the fires. What condition were those power lines and poles in, and why were their response trucks blocking roads during an active evacuation, and why weren't the police removing the blockades instead of creating their own?
The wind also blew over HUGE trees and tore roofs off of buildings. Yes the wind blew over utility poles too. Crazy WIND that day!! We ALL saw it in Lahaina. Try check your cell phone….when was the last text or phone call??
Yes! Keep asking the right questions and please continue to do it publicly. With all the press conference's and hall meetings that's been going on and let's not forget the emergency proclamation from the governor is not making any sense. Mahalo Jeremy
Maui Emergency Management just didn't manage the emergency. They hadn't planned well enough. The "state of the art" emergency siren system was not used. Some idiot turned the water OFF because of "equity"??!!. People have said their cell phones weren't working that day. Police blocked the main (or only paved?) evacuation route?? Communication was horrible. A citizen improvement group had previously requested the building of another fire station in Lahaina and had been turned down!!. To top it all off, literally the local to national who's who of emergency management for that Region was a stone's throw away on another island at a big FEMA conference. Going forward, the need is only too clear for solid comprehensive proactive evacuation, coordination, & communication emergency management PLANNING! I hope it will be DONE to prevent another disaster like this from happening. Oh, and the officials here should apologize and RESIGN. They let chaos consume a whole TOWN and so many innocent lives. Just awful.
You are 100% right. And on top of that, when asked questions in the press conference, they were arrogant and had an attitude. No regret/remorse. They truly don't care.
I'm saying from 5,000 miles away, The Princess Nāhiʻenaʻena Elementary School has solar panels meaning that their security cameras worked and sent video to "The Cloud" of whoever was near the origin of the afternoon fire. I'm sure that many other businesses had video sent to the cloud, before the fire destroyed their homes/businesses.
The response from MEMA, the governor, mayor and all elected positions is the disaster. What happened in Lahaina is a tragedy. Props on asking the questions, shoeing the footage. Unreal they blocked the roads working in coordination with the police obviously. Time to clear out the entire county building, we're good on our own. Maybe we could house families there for a while.
The fire was started by Maui, state, and USG officials on behalf of real estate developers and the WEF using directed energy microwave weapons. Burn it down and come in and buy it up at pennies on the dollar. The electric power lines were deenergized six hours before the fire started.
Mahalo to Jeremy Lee and the team at KITV for sticking to this story, so many of us appreciate your efforts to shed more light on all this. It's getting more and more damning as the county tries to ignore requests for answers and pieces of the puzzle are being put together..
Kitv is doing a great job of dramatizing the situation, and blowing the story out of proportion, to up their ratings. This is true.
@@redeyestones3738keep licking boots
Thank you for pursuing this!! We want answers about what happened! The people of Lāhainā deserve answers!
You want answers? Go to the people on the news who are not being interviewed. They are the real one’s telling real stories. They are picking ones to fit the narrative which is all falsely BS witnesses
It'll never happen unfortunately. Bissen to scared to show his face. Green will stay on Oahu, and determine how we rebuild from there, lining his pockets, selling maui out.
Are you telling us HECO, those downed powerlines blocking the roadways OUT of Lahaina were not energized?! Is this an admittance Maui PD unnecessarily blocked exit routes because of downed powerlines which were not energized?! Truly?! People were prevented from escaping as a result of no communication between HECO and Maui Police Department and other emergency services? Neglect! Neglect!!! This is murder.
To be perfectly honest this is much more common then you think. Its not murder, it is incompetence. That falls on all the people who failed to take initiative as well. Why didn't anyone get out of their vehicles and talk to the cops to figure out what was going on?
The power was turned off according to Maui Electric Co.
@@LauraVillasenor-bf8ni I hope you recognize that Hawaii Power is dealing with multiple lawsuits and is engaging in a campaign to clear their name and/or cast doubt. Until Discovery within the lawsuit it's all conjecture.
This looks so bad for all involved. They need to be drug down main street straight to the harbor, while we the people line the streets and pelt them with rotten fruit on their way to being shipped off island. Gross negligence caused a disaster. The response has been a tragedy. We are Aloha strong!
All of those lines as far as I saw were deenergized, many as early as 0430 that morning.
As someone that lived 40 years in south Florida’s hurricane alley, I can only say that this is the worst thing I’ve ever seen.
Not getting emergency notifications means the death rate will be astronomical in any situation.
Timely notifications should be standard EXPECTATION for every American taxpaying citizens.
ESPECIALLY IN HAWAII WHERE THEY HAVE CONDITIONED THE PEOPLE TO RELY ON "OFFICIALS" TO USE THEIR SIREN SYSTEM
IN CASE OF EMERGENCY WHICH THEY TEST ONCE A MONTH - NO EXCUSE FOR THIS!
The excuse is they wanted their land
The utter hypocrisy of all of this is that if any Hawaii citizen was delinquent or resistant to things like jury summons, paying their electric bill, not registering their car, not paying estimated taxes, etc. - these entities are on us like flies on stink. BUT try to get any of these entities to be responsible, accountable or truthful to the people - its all about pass the buck, cover up, stonewall.
It's already being pushed under the rug. We can't let that happen! They want us to forget all about this horrible mass murder.😢
It was a natural disaster and all kinds of people made bad decisions. It's not a mass murder and quit blaming others! Grow the Frick up!
LoL mass murder?
@@cameronk544 you think it's funny eh!
Video takers need to put a date stamp on their videos so there’s no questions when events take place.
Maui County sued HECO so they don't have to answer questions regarding Aug 8. Calculated and deliberate move. Smart.
I think it's called "cover your...?..." I can't remember.
Diabolical.
Here’s another question, who was manning the civil defense aka. Maui Emergency Management Agency office at the county building during the high winds and eventually the devastating fire in Lahaina and Kula? My knowledge is that during times of an emergency the Mayor would have all his department directors and deputy directors at the civil defense office. All communications coming in and going out occur in that room throughout the duration of the emergency. The person in charge in that room is the key communicator to the Mayor’s division heads and then they communicate to all sectors of the community as and where needed. Obviously, there was a massive failure OR the Mayor’s division heads were never in that civil defense room to begin with and THAT is why the Mayor was quoted “ I don’t know who was in charge”. Book um Dano!
That's where you're wrong..
@@LonnieBrewer-dd4wi Oh, great explanation of where and how he's wrong. Amazing comment!!!
@@thefalsehero A bit of sarcasm..
@@LonnieBrewer-dd4wi Are you saying your original comment was sarcasm? Or are you saying my response to yours was sarcasm.
You suck at communicating on the internet. Nobody can read your mind.
What a joke that the county wants to blame H.E for the county;s failure to warn the public to evacuate. The mayor, the police chief and the governor are responsible for not doing a thing when things started, sounds like the meeting they had on Oahu was more important then peoples lives. Just saying it is way to coincidental for everything to happen after the governor wanted Maui to have the first smart city and now trying to think of ways to take the land from the people as we saw a clip in an interview. They must be hiding something in Lahaina when you put up fencing and have a no fly drone zone or a media blackout of the area, I can understand the drone thing where alot of people would be stupid enough to have hundreds of drones buzzing the area but fencing and media blackout....yeah right
And still won't let people go to their homes in the affected area that have pets trapped inside. Today is the 35th day since the fire, so most have probably not survived this long without food and water. 😿 🐕
I reviewed the Governor message the evening of the fire just on a hunch. His so called new path forward was a plan and that original message page is now gone. Why they take it down?
I do not understand why not use the warning sirens and police sirens and loudspeakers to *warn* the folk in every street! Why starts to blame this private organisation or that government organisation do this or that wrong? That not helps really.
I thinking every adults should known that typically wood houses burn in fire - so that they evacuation the folks early helps. Why they wait for the fire after they talk before that they think, it could happend a power line (with plastic around!) make a fire! Exactly at this point... 😮
@@OldLordSpeedybecause they wanted the ppl who owns the land to die, simple as that and those that managed to survive are expected to sell for pennies on the dollar. It's not a coincidence that the same happened in 2017 fires. Believe it or not but the powers that be are indeed capable of such atrocious acts on their own citizens.
Well stated and on point.
All emergency management leaders "just happened to be" on Oahu that day discussing emergency management. How convenient. Considering the fact that the exact same type of fire happened in the exact same place 4 years ago. Petitions and public outcry were sent to the county to correct the county failures that created the environment that allowed that fire 4 years ago and they did NOTHING. Now we have this. When incompetency and dereliction of duty become so egregious, one must consider the possibility of intention neglect.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been watching KITV's broadcasts since the fire. Is it possible the only major network affiliate in the country that actually tries to report facts is in Hawai'i?
That seems to be the same across the US - if you want to know what's really happening in a city/area check out the LOCAL newscasts. You're more likely to find coverage there because the locals live in the area and are impacted by the events more personally than any of the talking-heads on the mainstream media mega-channels be it cable news or broadcast channels.
Mahalo nui loa for referring to it as a "self evacuation of Lahaina" as that's exactly what it was! Reliance only on instincts and each other to get out and survive or perish in the chaos! Keep pushing the truth of what happened that horrific day.
#SelfEvacLahaina
Pelletier blocking roads, Vanguard/Blackrock(HEI) blocking roads. Wake up people.
Thank you for asking these kinds of questions. Keep pushing for answers. Authorities want this stuff to be forgotten and to just go away. Please keep pressing for answers. 🙏
Wait, if the power was turned off, then the lines that were on the road weren’t live and posed no threat to people. So…people could have driven right over the power lines. If the lines were not receiving electricity by, how did the original fire, which I’ve heard had been put out and had firefighters monitoring it for several hours before being called away, start up again? And how was that fire put out if the water was turned off?
Even if the lines are dead, they will get caught up in the wheels of vehicles trying to cross them, people can't get past the poles and many of them were down. Take a look at the first minute of this video, cars are getting tangled up in lines. Were the police supposed to wave them into a mess like that with no escape possible. At least the people in the cars stuck in traffic could run into the ocean. ua-cam.com/video/Qg2sfqTiGnc/v-deo.html
The fire was not out completely but it was considered “under control”… the fire “started back up again” because of the heavy winds.
If the lines were dead, why weren't they just cutting them to let people get through to safety? That was more important.
@@BRS5They could have got out of their cars and made their way out of there instead
@@BRS5 I suppose so. I hadn’t seen the video with the poles down. It just seems like there were a lot of efforts made to keep people in danger. Idk why people just didn’t get out of their cars and run. Perhaps they assumed that any minute the traffic would get going and that they wanted the speed of the car. But at the same time, I wonder why the officers, who must have been able to see what was coming, didn’t start running from car to car telling people the road was blocked by power lines and get out and run! Plus I saw a video yesterday made by a survivor that showed electric company trusts blocking two lanes trying to replace downed power lines! Wait! There’s a fire! Please clear the poles and lines away!
Its as if they were there knowing that blocking the escape rout was the reason for being there????
Really?? You think “they” whoever that is was trying to kill everybody?? Wow!! That is pretty crazy!! I don’t think so. Crazy wind blew down the poles…nobody could communicate.
It was not an electrical fire...wake the heck up
What kind of fire was it then?
@@kaohelomusic8046
I think he (or she) is one of “those people” who think it was some kind of secret government weapon 🤪🤭🤦🏽♀️.
Microwave weapons arent a secret
And what about August 7th at 10:46PM when we see a flash in the woods via the
Maui Bird Conservatory security camera, then flames, then we're shown the next morning
and two people attempting to put out the fire on the grass across the road from the conservatory. Why is that video of the two people in the morning missing the time stamp?
Let's all remember who the major shareholders in Hawaiian Electric are:
Vanguard and Blackrock.
Wow! Another coincidence!
Yeah, I'm sure it's fine. We're just being paranoid.
I hear that all the time and yet checking I don't find that at all
Hawaiian Electric Industries, Inc is parent co of. Hawaii electric company
and the owner is Thomas B Fargo
@@msheart2
Check again.
He's chairman of the board as of 2020. NOT the "owner".
Shareholders
NameEquities%Valuation
The Vanguard Group, Inc.
11.33 %
2023-01-24 - BlackRock Inc. has filed an SC 13G form with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) disclosing ownership of 10,211,814 shares of Hawaiian Electric Industries, Inc. (US:HE). This represents 9.3 percent ownership of the company. In their previous filing dated 2022-02-01 , BlackRock Inc. had reported owning 9,627,036 shares, indicating an increase of 6.07 percent.
@@msheart2 "and yet checking I don't find that at all"...people with agendas don't need facts!
Change natural fires 🔥 , for CRIMINAL Fires 🔥! 👀Ahah now looks Better!
One thing this teaches me: if there's a dire emergency better to be fined for driving around the road block, if possible.
Please don’t stop bring the truth to light
Yea good luck with expecting MSM to be anything but propaganda.
KITV The Police Chief in Maui is THE SAME Police Chief as the Las Vegas massacre.... The connection is too weird. Please investigate 🙏
wow!!!!!
What's his name?
Is it really weird that a cop with a long career has been on the job when two disasters occurred?
I am not that familiar with the Las Vegas incident. But is a lone gunman killing concert goers, the same as a wildfire taking out a town?
@@jaybleu6169
Normally, probably not, no…. BUT yes it is weird when one is the worse mass sh*%ting in US history and the other is the worse wildfire in history.
It's so good to hear REAL news again
Thank you Jeremy for your investigative prowess and persistence in bringing information to the surface about the fires in Lahaina.
Jeremy you are the only local Hawaii reporter asking the right questions. Please continue investigating where the other controlled reporters are not.
There's no conspiracy, relax!! The company is keeping quiet to protect themselves from liability, and I'm sure there's some idiot lawyer telling them to do it.
@@shake741 You are so off base it is sad. When did it become cool to oppose every "conspiracy theory" and only believe what government and media say? You think you are the smart informed person who knows what's up, but you are actually less intelligent than the average teenager who has no life experience.
@@zelda-qo4dr And this is how Trump became President. People like you believing all the BS stories because you think it "makes sense"
@@shake741He’s a reporter, and this is his job.
@@shake741 you are a perfect example of what the government looks for in its people - a person who is naive enough to accept what they say and not ask questions. if you are not asking questions, you are not a critical thinker. be open in learning to be one
This is what government does. Now you know why they pay themselves so well.
And they just voted to give THEMSELVES a huge pay raise not too long ago here in Hawai’i.
@@The.Hawaiian.Kingdomcurious how The very ones receiving the raise were the very ones who voted on it ,you would think this should be up to the community...
@@nicholasholloway8743
Yeah, you would think so, but look at the US Presidents, when has US civilians ever voted on the raises that US Presidents have gotten? Never! A US President can be impeached, but look at how hard a process it is & US citizens have no part in it, although they SHOULD. When government officials are voted in, there should be biannual votes to see if he (or she) is allowed to continue as President, that’s how impeachments SHOULD work. Same with raises, the people should vote in it. And even taxes, each citizen should be able to dictate where they want their tax money to go when they do their taxes… this percentage to schools, this percent to infrastructure, this percent to welfare services etc etc. And all government spending should be transparent where citizens can go online and see where money is going. Citizens should be granted veto power over bills & spending (like billions upon billions going to aid foreign countries). But, that makes too much sense for them to do it, and it would make it impossible for them to swindle money.
I was up in honokowai early am on August 8 talking to my dad at 4 am and the power went off in Lahaina and Honokowai. We actually got up that morning and drove thru Lahaina that morning and there was still no power in Lahaina or at our home in Honokowai. When I was talking to my dad the power went out around 4 am! He works and I called him to see if he was ok which I usually do because he always gets home late! He is 80 years old
Hawaiian electric has to be a trillion dollar company by now. They are the only electric company in all of Hawaii! Their rates are ridiculously high! And I don’t recall if they have packages to choose from but think about it. They get to charge their ridiculous rates to all the businesses and residents. I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a hand in this fire for long term gain by being the only supplier for a green city.
Go Solar and Be grid independent, it’s Hawaii you have sun for atleast 7 hrs
The police, the county, and Hawaiian Electric all pointing fingers at each other. The videos from citizens speak the truth. They are all to blame. Please continue to report on this and keep the pressure on.
Kihei south to Wailea/Makena is one giant deadend with the Government allowing more and more development without building a road up to Kula. A fire there with strong northerly tradewinds would trap everyone. Not such great planning.
Isn't that where Oprah and that other billionaire live? Oooops😜
What’s done in the dark will come to light
It's obvious to me that the EOC wasn't stood up properly nor were there communications with all the personnel! They didn't have any idea what to do so these police units freelanced. Yes freelanced` because of panic caused by the EMO not doing his job during the past 5 years. This incident ideally should have been handled as a unified command. The Mayor ,the EMO, the Police Chief, Maui County Fire Chief, the Airport Fire Chief, The EMS Chief, Public Works Chief, HECO Chief , and National Guard should have all been in the EOC communicating with their people . The EMO should have had a binder in his hands labelled Urban Interface Fires ,and one for each other type of incident, It's obvious he didn't. who's ultimately responsible? The Mayor, the EMO, the Fire Chiefs, Police Chief, the Public Works Chief,HECO Chief should be thoroughly investigated, and held responsible.
Communication failures that's a underhand MORE LIKE CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE.. GOD BLESS THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE OF MAUI MAY YOU RECLAIM YOUR LAND
God Bless the people of Lahaina, Maui 🙏🏼🕊
Great coverage Jeremy Lee!! Keep going!!!
Imagine if all media practiced journalism like this.m
The need for truthful information on just how those poles came down.
Including that very first one.
That was when the winds were not bad enough to be blowing over poles.
Why would they have poles being repaired at a time when evacuations are going on along with the horrific fire????
Real journalism folks 👍
I appreciate this kind of information, thank you.
Jeremy Lee and his crew
Full Deserve an Award for Investigative Journalism...
And the Management at KITV Deserves an Award for Standing by this reporter and airing The TRUTH.
Mahalo... Thank You for being a news station that Actually Does what the citizens Expect the news to do... Report the Facts.
Prayers for Kula and Lahaina
🙏☮️✌️🌎✌️☮️🙏
A lot of crazy stuff happened that day. Fires on the dry side of an island with wind nobody saw coming. No communication miscommunication, and the State of Hawaii the county just being useless as usual. If you lost friends, family, livelihood or possessions. You have every right to be pissed off.🤙🏿
The weather service issued a red flag fire hazard warning due to dry conditions and expected high winds. People who paid attention to weather warnings were aware that high winds were expected. Once the fires were started by downed power lines, there was little chance that the fire department could stop them all. The county of Maui didn't start the fires. HECO did.
@@frankmartin8471how are we certain that this was "downed power lines" from what I've been reading, those lines are comm lines with no current, this doesn't add up.
Were there any high wind warnings and preparations as they knew a hurricane was passing by? I know it wasn't coming ashore, but they must have known it was going to create high winds.
Kaua'ula Wind(Google it) is known to occur in that exact valley and blow toward Lahaina. But I don't think the weather service has studied the circumstances that produce it in particular. They did issue a Red Flag warning for Aug 7th to the 9th. I assume Red Flag means "high wind" and "fire danger".
Here’s the thing, Lāhainā is known for strong winds even without a hurricane nearby, because there’s long valleys right there and wind going over the mountain from the other side of the island get trapped in the valley and come flying out at the bottom (where this fire started & where all wildfires start, as far as I know, in Lāhainā), so even if the wind in the rest of Hawai’i wasn’t strong enough to warrant a wind advisory, the concentration of wind out of the valley in Lāhainā would be much stronger typically.
The winds out of the valley there are famous, people spoke of it even before colonizers arrived… the difference is we had a lot of trees throughout Lāhainā to act as a shield from those winds. Then colonizers came, brought plantation owner land grabbers who diverted water out of Lāhainā to their plantations which caused Lāhainā to dry up and on top of that cattle ranchers moved in and replaced all of the native fauna with non-native dry grasses for cattle feed. And since then Lāhainā has essentially been a kindling box with the valleys blowing any small embers into wildfires.
I live in Northern Idaho where we unfortunately have lots of wildfires. We do get alerts when strong winds are expected.
Governor Josh Green Needs to Resign & Leave the State of Hawaii
If county officials were meeting on the 3rd floor of the county building, wouldn’t there be records of it (ie officials using county issued laptops/computers or images of county officials entering/exiting the county building at specific times)?
Please more courageous journalism, thank you!
Excellent Jeremy. Thank you.
I've never seen an administration faltering so fast right before my eyes
"I've never seen an administration faltering so fast..."voters don't care...they elected this mess..
There is no way this was caused by a “wild fire”. Glass melts at 2500 degrees. No way that fire got hot. This doesn’t add up.
Yet ppl are eating up the "downed lines narrative". DEW more than likely. You seen those green lasers ppl be popping balloons with? Imagine that scaled up by a Factor of 50. That's what caused this fire.
Keep up the good work KITV
Great reporting Jeremy!
You need to get your information correct. What I saw was a truck with the logo ROKSTAD not Hawaiian Electric. Before reporting you folks need to go frame by frame and report accordingly.
The book Fire & Fury came out while the fires were still going! The author was quick to blame climate change. It was on Amazon for a while but pulled off
Great work Jeremy !!!
Ohhh this is getting good 👍 keep it coming 🎉
Keep asking questions Jeremy, we all want to know!
So you have very dangerous fires knocking down power lines during an evacuation and the power company is saying to themselves,
"Well boys, we better get these power lines back up."
@0:52 you say HECO claims to have _”shut off power to ALL of west Maui as of the morning of August 8th”_ but the resorts in Ka’anapali were lit up that night, were they using generators or some backup system that’s capable of running that long?? Ooooor what?!?
"Island style" has a steep price.
Thank You for Your Inegrity in Reporting Facts
Appreciation & Respect for All You Are Contributing
How's holding folks back in a barricade (because orders) hence causing extreme casualties not a form war, especially since the kamaaina are held back from THEIR land and said land may never be returned to the rightful owner??
Mr Lee we don't need no water... No need to panic
This is ridiculous… Get ‘Em Jeremy!!
Thank you for not letting this go. We shall know if the screws have been tightened as we will go looking for justice for Lahainans in the coming months and years.
You’re the brave ones. Admirable. ❤
Who is going to pay for all these lawsuits?? Everybody in the state will triple electric bill. We will pay for it. The winds blew over trees, tore roofs off of houses, and blew over utility poles!! The blown over utility poles cause fiber optics to be cut. I believe that happened around 12:30 and 1:00pm I believe nobody had ability to communicate BEFORE the 3:00 raging wild 🔥 fire. Why does everybody gotta blame somebody??? It was the WIND. We ALL experienced it in Lahaina that day. Why do you have to hold someone responsible? It was the wind
Dig deeper… there is way more than just wind… it is imperative you do… Maui’s future depends on it… if you really care …
It was NEGLECT
Because blame has to be shared, and blaming the wind is a cop out.
@@kaohelomusic8046 What was neglected?? When you see what I saw….those HUGE power poles did summersaults. It was unbelievable!! Huge trees down Everywhere. I am here looking at it every day. I see metal roofs stuck in the trees. It’s beyond crazy
Keep on it!
Just to let you know, those trucks on the roads look like communication company trucks. At 0:54 seconds, those are comm lines being cut down. Power company would not be cutting those lines down. The news needs to do a better job when researching their info. At 2:29, those are comm lines on the ground and the truck looks like a comm company truck. This is common during storms for comm lines and poles to fall due to the weight of the cables.This happened on Oahu during hurricane Iniki.
We love & appreciate you Jeremy! Keep up the good work-your integrity and investigative journalism sets you apart! Thank you
Jeremy just provide more and more questions stirring the pot, a lot of insinuations and very little information.
Some how for Jeremy HECO responsibilities are the firefighters and police fault.
Well done, keep asking!!!
Hawaian Electric is judged based on after facts. They were not communicated properly about evacuation and it is commendable that they started the restoration efforts quickly.
So the scapegoaters are moving the goalpost, kind of pathetic
Here' and idea. All the people who have been misplaced b/c of the fire should start calling out Oprah to open her acreage for the people. The more people do it and have you ad others like you post it. Call them all out, ie. Besos, Duane, Zucker berg, Hanks, and the others have have taken the Hawaiians land.
A home owner knocked over a power pole,then THEY blamed the electric company,it's really horrible what's going on, trying to live for free and not accept it as a accident as it really is
Even if emergency management didnt communicate wi th maui electric, they could see that there was a fire.i think that this was arson.this was intentional, but i dont know who is respondible.
So if it’s that easy for an electric fire to happen then that seems like it would be much more common in that area
Agreed, ppl are still eating it up though.
The local Maui government is suing the power company for failure to maintain their infrastructure and starting the fires. What condition were those power lines and poles in, and why were their response trucks blocking roads during an active evacuation, and why weren't the police removing the blockades instead of creating their own?
The wind also blew over HUGE trees and tore roofs off of buildings. Yes the wind blew over utility poles too. Crazy WIND that day!! We ALL saw it in
Lahaina. Try check your cell phone….when was the last text or phone call??
We need more satellites internet alerts vs land based fire prone systems. Loss of cellular before actual fire hindered warnings and communications
Yes! Keep asking the right questions and please continue to do it publicly. With all the press conference's and hall meetings that's been going on and let's not forget the emergency proclamation from the governor is not making any sense. Mahalo Jeremy
Jeremy Lee ❤ Mahalo Braddah!
I hope they can bury the powerlines in the future.
Mayor and police chief need to be removed from power and held accountable.
Jeremy is doing a great job.
bullying down the chain of command has led to excuses like communication failure and authority intervention has created a excess destruction and waste
Too many Chiefs with too much control?
I cannot believe they were blocking the streets like this😢
@@guitarnine Stop being a gullible sheep.
Thank you Jeremy Lee!!
Isn't Hawaiian electric Co. Partially Owned by... Vanguard & Black rock??
Maui Emergency Management just didn't manage the emergency. They hadn't planned well enough. The "state of the art" emergency siren system was not used. Some idiot turned the water OFF because of "equity"??!!. People have said their cell phones weren't working that day. Police blocked the main (or only paved?) evacuation route?? Communication was horrible. A citizen improvement group had previously requested the building of another fire station in Lahaina and had been turned down!!.
To top it all off, literally the local to national who's who of emergency management for that Region was a stone's throw away on another island at a big FEMA conference.
Going forward, the need is only too clear for solid comprehensive proactive evacuation, coordination, & communication emergency management PLANNING! I hope it will be DONE to prevent another disaster like this from happening. Oh, and the officials here should apologize and RESIGN. They let chaos consume a whole TOWN and so many innocent lives. Just awful.
You are 100% right. And on top of that, when asked questions in the press conference, they were arrogant and had an attitude. No regret/remorse. They truly don't care.
I think communication was cut between 12:30 and 1:00 because the WIND blew over utility poles….and huge trees….and roofs of buildings. Blame the WIND
Nobody turned off the water...no electricity to the water pump therefore the reservoir went dry
I'm saying from 5,000 miles away,
The Princess Nāhiʻenaʻena Elementary School has solar panels meaning that their security cameras worked and sent video to "The Cloud" of whoever was near the origin of the afternoon fire.
I'm sure that many other businesses had video sent to the cloud, before the fire destroyed their homes/businesses.
Inbound lanes should have been used for egress
It's also not good to be on your phone while driving
😆
There was talk about 15 min cities on the islands before any of this happened..THAT'S KIND OF INTERESTING..
Disaster? Tragedy. Massive. Human loss in a close close family community. #Ohana . Ashes on #SacredLand . #Lahaina rip
💙💙💙🙏🏼
HECO crews look like they aren’t aware of the fire risk. It appears they are following normal safety protocols.
The response from MEMA, the governor, mayor and all elected positions is the disaster. What happened in Lahaina is a tragedy.
Props on asking the questions, shoeing the footage. Unreal they blocked the roads working in coordination with the police obviously. Time to clear out the entire county building, we're good on our own. Maybe we could house families there for a while.
Wthell??? 😱Those poor ppl 😢❤️🩹
What!??
And not one Hawaiian wen jump out Dey vehicle and tell them wtf? It’s an evac there’s ppl stuck in traffic wayyy back. They going burn 🔥
The people of Hawaii need to band together and hire a group of fire litigation attorneys to sue the county and the utilities
The fire was started by Maui, state, and USG officials on behalf of real estate developers and the WEF using directed energy microwave weapons. Burn it down and come in and buy it up at pennies on the dollar. The electric power lines were deenergized six hours before the fire started.
At what point we stop saying that it was incompetence and mishaps?