Astros used electronic devices to steal signs in 2017
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- Опубліковано 11 лис 2019
- A recent report alleges the Houston Astros went above and beyond in their sign-stealing practices during the 2017 postseason, and the Michael Kay Show crew breaks down the ramifications of that. Subscribe for daily sports videos!
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As a Phillies fan, I suddenly feel glad the the Nationals won the World Series.
No disrespect but I feel like everyone would've guessed you were a Philly fan haha
philly_ sports As if it matters... Everyone should’ve been rooting for the Nationals, the Astro’s are the most obnoxious team in baseball
Didn't you say this on Jomboy's video too?! Haha
As Mets fan I wanted the Nationals to win. I felt like it would was the best result to further improve the competition in the NL east between it's 4 teams. Also I agree the Astros are pretty fucking annoying.
no one asked you
During the 2017 World Series, Clayton Kershaw got 11 Innings and 1 Earned run at Dodger Stadium. In Houston, he pitched 4.2 innings and gave up 6 runs
EDIT: There’s a guy who keeps copy/pasting this comment and putting it on other videos that discuss this same exact topic. This comment is the OG and I’m not the one who keeps posting it.
Yea and what did the nats do to him in this year's playoffs, were they cheating too? Or maybe he is a choker in big games😂
@Danny White others teams have done it dummo. Lol that same year the red Sox were accused of using apple watches and the Yankees getting help from yes network cameras lol
Arturo Gomez Im tellin ya, take away their rings!!
And why was Yu Darvish terrible in game 7 at home?
A weak ass argument. How do you explain his meltdown against the Twins!! Kershaw is a choker. He didnt pitch well in the playoffs before 2017 either.
*Imagine losing to the Nationals while stealing signs*
Lmao
Lol!!
Nationals gave them a taste of there own medicine by cheating too. LOL!
Calm down.
WITH BUZZERS!! NOT TRASH CANS!!
As a Dodger fan, I am extremely mad. 2017 was the Dodgers year. Somehow our pitchers who were the best in the league get destroyed when we play at Minute Maid park. It pisses me off and I hope the Astros get punished.
I've watched your playoff pitching the last few years, and I would like to dispute your "best in the league" assertion. See UrinatingTree's videos
Definitely not Jeffrey Epstein I’m talking about 2017. In 2017, we had the best pitching in baseball. Even Kershaw was doing good up until game 5 of the WS.
I'm a Dodger fan, so why were they able to win game 4 in Houston and lose games 2 and 7 at home? The Dodgers lost on the field, so we better stop complaining.
Michael Lepe as a Yankees fan I’m just as pissed
You are an idiot, stop crying like a girl. Game 2 in LA , the Astros beat up LA's pitching without the help of cheating. Game 3 in Houston, Yu Darvish gets knocked around because he sucks. That is why the Rangers got rid of him. Game 4 @ Houston, how do you explain Alex Wood giving up only 2 hits????
As a Dodger fan I don’t want the trophy, absolutely not. But a bittersweet ending would be a No Contest. We don’t get the rings, but you win the shame.
The Dodgers got their championship in the end in 2020. The Yankees have yet to get theirs.
I remember watching the World Series and they were hitting pitches like they knew what was coming! We all thought that the Dodgers were tipping pitches but it was again and again and again so something didn’t add up! Now we know!
They should have all their number one draft picks for the next five years taken away and their championship revoked! You need to make an example so this doesn’t happen again!
All of their draft picks should be given to the Dodgers as compensation.
Conner C
I like it!
Agreed!
Bro I still remember a George Springer at bat vs Yu Darvish in game 7. He was on every pitch and eventually homered. I thought Darvish was just nervous and threw every pitch down the middle but now it makes sense!
Look at what they did to Brandon morrow
Carl Marks
Cheaters opinion doesn’t count
Stealing signs by visual observation of a player's habits or tendencies is part of the game....using electronics to gain an advantage is clearly cheating. Obviously a title won't be taken away, but if proof is presented there should be a cost, either monetarily or thru draft picks, or both.
Hopefully it DOES get revoked. Inexcusable if this ends up getting proven to be true. Better yet give it to the Dodgers, I'm sure Darvish would be more than willing to take what the Astros stole.
@@CosbyTheCaterpillar Although that would seem to be the right thing to do, there is no chance the Astros title will be vacated. No chance.
@@tektoniks_architects I have hope in the MLB, I find them to be far more likely to take action than say the National Corruption, ur I mean Football League.
@@CosbyTheCaterpillar I'm pretty sure MLB will take action...but I think vacating their 2017 title isn't going to happen. Fines, suspensions, draft picks yes, title revocation? I don't see it.
@@tektoniks_architects If the Astros lost in 2017, then you'd be right. The problem here is that they won a title in 2017 when, it appears for now at least, they shouldn't have even won.
We will see what happens but I hope to God it gets revoked. Teams shouldn't have titles they don't deserve.
The Houston Asterisks
This comment is gold. Anyone who doesnt know what an asterisk is, it's the little * they put next to bullshit that needs excusing or explaining.
This is a brilliant comment. I cant stand those cheaters.
From Houston and I can't stand the Astros... The fans are delusional and the team is just classless. Anyone who disagrees can talk to Yuli, who literally mocked Yu Darvish... And Dallas Keuchel, who said the Astros are "not the Cubs." And of course, this incident. Congrats on putting a front on Astros! No more world Series for you in a while.
Alejo and Yanni oh no he mocked yu darvish what Hispanic hasn’t mocked an Asian.
Wouldnt be the astros without a few stars***
Wouldn't Alex Cora know about this since he was a bench coach for the Astros in 2017, and later moved on to manage the Red Sox? The Red Sox won all 3 games in Houston in the 2018 ALCS.
That’s probably how the Red Sox beat them by having a inside man
Maybe Alex Cora had to sit on the information, like some sort of non disclosure agreement. Because it could be seen as tarnishing the Astros reputation. I’m just spit balling an idea.
Interesting observation
They had tom brady banging on a trash can with a deflated football
😂😂😂😂
Shut the fuck up that was a long time ago
Any Dodger fans upset?😡🤬
Yep
Fuck the Astros😠 Go 2017 L.A Dodgers Champs the real Champs period
Alex Estrada Even if the championship was taken away they’re not gonna give it to you because it was three years ago
Astros should be sent to the minors
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Lmao, I wanna see that! An entire swap between major league and AAA 😂
Astros broke Clayton Kershaw. You had him at his lowest... and you did it because you are cheaters. Absolutely disgusting...
get out of here. kershaw is post season trash just like verlander
Kershaw has always sucked in the post season lol
I honestly feel for kershaw the most out of all this and I’m a yankees fan. He’s looked at completely different if he gets his ring.
@@dave-cd7jd Except Verlander has a ring
@@worldtraveler721 whats the excuse with losing to the redsox
Strip them of their title and just had no winner in 2017.
JAZ Drummer yes Dodgers
Agreed that is cheating
Have*
Danny White true
@@joshuaazenberg4664 have*
As a Yankee fan I hope its starts the Astros curse and its 100 + years till they win again
I hope they never win again
Astros wont win again. Tainted title doesnt count.
Only Us We have more faith in the MLB than we do in the National Corruption League
@@iser72ify BITCH SHUT THE FUCK UP
@@iser72ify Fuck u and the warriors
-AJ Hinch needs to be fired
-The person who started this whole thing needs to be fired
-Draft picks need to be taken away
-Anyone involved needs to be suspended
kate1603 people are hating on us and the people who started this are the problem ! I feel bad for Houston and me! (I’m and Astro fan) This hurts me a lot
@@bruhmoment5039 almost the whole league is hating on you right now
Whoever started it- permanent ban
What Not To Do At a Stoplight they’re professional athletes, they’re grown ADULTS. They knew what they did wrong, it was a whole inside job that went on for months or as new information comes out even years! They knew exactly what they were doing and they deserve to pay the highest consequences.
I’m a Phillies fan and after hearing this I’m so glad the Nationals won this year! Cheating sucks!
I still ask how Altuve hits a breaking ball (like he knew what was coming) off a guy (Chapman) who throws 100 mph?
For real!
Bingo
The reason he hit the slider was because Chapman could not find the strike zone with the fast ball, watch the video, stop being a sore looser
Altuve may not be as good as we thought. A report came out saying a player got mad when the camera wasn't up for a home game. Makes you think if Altuve is that player who benefits off the camera
Sean Gregory Altuve has been one of the best hitters in baseball since he came into the league. You can't throw a hanging slider to one of the best hitters. I'm not denying that the Astros cheated, but Altuve ain't no slouch in the batters box.
Put an asterisk next to their championship
As a Dodgers fan ... it all of a sudden made sense.
Hack Attack Look at the 2017 Astros Wikipedia article, someone literally did lmao
Or just strip it away
Hack Attack *strip them of their championship
Hell yea strip that championship.
Look at Altuve’s home and away stats during the 2017 series. It’s actually unbelievable
As a Dodger fan, I agree I wouldn’t want some pity two years removed championship, but honestly I’d be very down if they made an exception for a blank title year and stripped the Astros of their WS. I just lost respect for so many players I liked on that team (Correa, Bregman, springer, altuve).
Yes it’s cheating
There’s no rule against it, and it’s considered by every manager, coach and player as just part of the game. So why do some managers, coaches and players get so wound up when they think the other team is stealing their signs?
jugssports.com/blog/if-stealing-signs-is-part-of-the-game-why-do-teams-get-so-upset/
@@blue8thgen IGNORAMUS! RIDICULOUS!
I feel this is the reason Gerrit Cole wants to leave.
Maybe. I think it was Boras protecting him.
Cole Games
I’d be damned if the Yankees acquire Gerrit Cole at this point.
gerrit cole is leaving because the astros cant afford him
I'm sure $325 million has something to do with it.
Cole Games I think it’s the money that he could get from a different team
"You're not just playing with the score of the game, but people's livelihoods.
Goodness..I didn't think about all the ripple effects
Have the dodgers go 7 with yankees to redo that years ws 😂
Unfortunately it wouldn't be the same because players have come and gone since
Unless you could have a quick 7 game reunion.
Fuck the Astros, it isn't even just the cheating, but we'll never know who should have legitimately been the best that year
Sorry for you guys
Yes I’d love to see a dodgers x yanks WS
Wow fuck the Astros!! I feel so bad for the Yankees and dodgers they both got robbed !!
In my eyes just remove everything from the astros and remove draft picks or lower them dramatically and put a trade ban and lower there payroll as punishment for at least 3 years
Honestly it wouldve and shouldve been
As Joe Buck would put it. With no emotion
For the first time since 1988 the Dodgers are World Champs
41Brother Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope...
Dodgers would have won the WS title in 6 games if not for the Astros cheating.
How do you not strip them of their title in 2017, now? That’s such a shame because that 2017 yankee team was absolutely magical. Probably got robbed of a classic Yankees and Dodgers World Series. Shameful by the Astros. MLB should come down hard on the Astros.
ApparentlyEric cry
The Yankees offense got shut down in Houston, so I don't know if they would've still won that series.
Jon Dough imagine being so much of a loser that you’re on Yes Network videos and you don’t even like the Yankees lmao. That’s a special breed of loser right there
Jon Dough I never refuted the point dipshit, but the point remains the same why are you on a yes network vid if you don’t like the Yankees lol. Fucking losers with too much time on their hands lmao
Imagine if the Yankees did this, everyone around the league would want blood. Astros need to have their title stripped.
I have to agree.
I'm a Texan and I cheered to the heavens when they won because of hurricane Harvey.
This is cut and dry cheating.
Cheating is disqualification.
@@ritotron5752 they still had to play defense and hit the ball so it's not as nearly.as bad. But its bad
Marty Jacqz yeah they had to hit a ball that they knew what pitch it was, any major leaguer could do that
@@justino5222 true lol...I'm a salty fan then damn...2017 is now known as a cheating year. In which I actually am more excited to see how the astros bounce back 2020 from losing the ws at home and more motivation to ball out. It could be good for us in a bad way.
@@martyjacqz7901 yeah it's really sad. But fair is fair.
I like how people only think the astros do this.
@Get to the CHOPPAAA The Patriots Syndrome lol
Everyone tips pitches but teams have avoided using electronics(cameras) because it was made illegal by the league
Gabriel Montoya give me some proof
AND THE RED SOX TOO
The astros were the only team to win the World Series in 2017 so that’s why it’s important
I think it's an addiction for them now since when they've started cheating they couldn't stop looking for other ways to cheat to win they probably got a better way then the way they was doing it in 2017 smh
exactly....cheating is Astros, and Astros is Cheating...smh
Strasburg said they were stealing signs in game 6 in one of his postgame interviews.
Yeah but I don’t think that one was illegal. Stras had a tell in the first inning with his glove and then changed what he did. He started to shake his glove with every pitch so they couldn’t tell what he was doing
Chase M personally I think stealing signs is still cheating. It doesn’t show real Athletic abilities at bat if you know what the pitcher is throwing. Even the worst player can hit a home run if he knows the pitcher is throwing his favorite pitch to hit or if it’s going to be called a ball or strike.
@@maritzaacosta3391 That's baseball. If you tip your pitches, it's not stealing. Using a camera like the Astros is cheating.
Maritza Acosta its not cheating if you can pick up on a pitchers giveaways, that’s on the pitcher, and kudos to the other team for being focused enough to notice it, now using technology to steal signs is much different and 100% illegal
Astros werent stealing his signs He was showing the Stros what he was pitching. Once he stopped telling the Stros what he was pitching they had a hard time hitting.
as a dodger fan, yes i would take the championship. thanks for coming to my ted talk
That would be lame given the WS drought
Yankees are your 2017 ALCS and WS Champions
Idk about WS Champions. But it should've been Dodgers vs Yankees
@@OwenGrylls Guess we'll never know. We'll both share the WS title, either way take it away from Houston.
Astros need to get investigated more by Mlb and conduct inspections !!
"In the last two games they couldn't score a run"...so....the Yankees didn't hit because the Astros we're stealing signs off Yankee pitchers??
Yeah
As a Yankees fan I’m mad
As a Yankee fan, I don't care.
That doesn't take away from the fact that they probably don't even get enough wins to make it that far. Or even get to the alcs
Yankee fans are really stupid
As a Red Sox’s fan, I’m offended at this cheating.
as a dodgers fan im pissed as well.
Didn’t the Red Sox get caught cheating too in 2017?
LXUIE I think you’re confusing them for the Patriots.
As an A's fan that always goes to see A's vs. Astros, this will make the Coliseum very interesting next season
Luis Travieso they used apple watches to steal signs from the Yankees in 2017 if I remember correctly, maybe I’m wrong idk
AJ Hinch to the media: That whistling is ludicrous, ridiculous, we're not cheating!
AJ Hinch in the clubhouse: Quick, boys, come up with something else, they're onto the whistling!
I was waiting to hear this from Kay
“Surviving Houston” documentary coming soon hahahaha. They ruined many lives
All I can do is laugh at the Astros and the players that were involved in this😂😂😂.
Imagine them looking at the 2017 rings and knowing that they cheated to obtain it. I’m laughing just thinking about it 😂😂😂😂
As a Dodger fan we had the best record in the league. There was corruption happening in the ALCS. By Vintage MLB Standards that's a forfeit from the AL. We should be World Series Champions of 2017
I WISH THAT WE COULD GO BACK IN TIME AND REDO THE POSTSEASON!!!
This needs to go national but it won't
Yet it is.
It's been national. WTF? ESPN, FS1 and pretty much every other major sports network has covered it, that's as national as it gets in sports.
It was not on first take, undisputed, the herd, the odd couple or get up
It wont be a really big deal because everyone is doing it. So like the other guys said noone wants an investigation because they dont want to get exposed.
They won't do anything about it though. It has gone National but they won't strip the Astro's of their 2017 title.
DODGERS ARE 2017 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS
This is such an unfortunate situation for the Astros. So many class act members of the team and to see this hurts as a Houstonian.
Put an astrik next to 2017 world series win and move on... Cause ain't nothing gonna change but a slap on wrist...
As a Dodger fan let’s do a redo of 2017 WS Yankees vs. Dodgers
Lets not.
Love that the Astros lost every single game at Yankees stadium in the 2017 alcs
Now that’s what I call “home field advantage” 😂😂
I have been saying this for 2 years and was called crazy by anyone who was not a Yankee fan. Astros should be stripped from that World Series and give it to whoever they beat. I think Dodgers.
Mike Fiers wants to make up some story about the Astros so people wont talk about him using pine tar for his NO HITTER in Oakland. Hmmmmm
They learned from Red Sox who do the same thing
Richard Kucklinski no the Red Sox didn’t do anything close to this did they both use electronics yes but the Astros were more intricate and effective in doing so the Red Sox only did it for a couple of games where they used an Apple Watch and used there eyes to catch the signs the Astros went over the top by using a camera and then using a trash can and the monitor in the dug our broke regulations because by MLB rules it needs to have an 8 second delay but this was real time the Red Sox didn’t do anything like that
Aditya G you don’t know how long they were doing it. They had a pretty successful season
I love how these guys are just assuming they actually did all of this with no actual evidence of it happening
Aaron Rodgers: Im with you on that one. They are just as bad as the salty fans here who only want to see the Astros lose there 2017 WS at any way possible.
*Oakland’s hill has been this steep the whole time?!?*
I called this shit real time
As a dodgers fan strip the Astros from their 2017 WS can you imagine game 5 of the World Series with out cheating?
wackedout13 if they were cheating it wouldn’t have gone 11 innings
10*
Drippedout Boy kershaw has a great postseason including a game one WS win at home he pitch 7 inning 11K and 1ER. Game 5 kershaw pitch 4 2/3 innings 4H 6R on the road at Minute Maid park. Tell me that’s not cheating when kershaw was clutch all postseason and game 1 of 2017 WS and let’s not forget game 4 where darvish has a bad game maybe because of the Astros cheating
The article was about the entire MLB stealing signs?
They should take away there world series "win"
Jomboy breaks this down..
I hope the Astros will never win another World Series again because of this
in an episode with MLB Tonight about stealing signs Joe Giradi admitted to the fact that teams use cameras to steal signs, whether he thought it was only the astros or not it’s still a sign that probably more teams have some sort of system like this- you can look up the video on UA-cam
Take a look at home/away splits for Y. Alvarez
Does anyone know when after game 7 when Correa proposed to that girl in the stands??? I hope she breaks up with him bc she realizes he cheated to win.😂😂
They actually got married yesterday 😂😂😂
Anthony 1445 one they did cheat and two it was a joke..... I’m sorry bro
Paola Victoria wow😂😂
They did it this year against the Yankees whistling & banging it’s on videos people are going over them now
Their point is the PUNISHMENT must be severe enough to disway these behaviors. World Series title must be stripped.
2017 should've never went to a game 7.
If this is true, then how did my Nats beat them at Minute Maid? Even won all games there
Nats were immune obviously. Lol
@@jonton6541 hmmmm....Still, to win EVERY game at Minute Maid.....I just don't know.
Umm a lot of different signs from the catcher to the pitcher by the Nats and good clutch hitting
This was in 2017
@@_____0__ I know....still, if it worked back then. What would have precluded them from using the same tactic for the WS this year? I understand the risk of mounting suspicion but still.
Playoff Kershaw was gonna get rocked regardless
11 innings pitched at home in 2017 world series. 1 earned run.
The Washington Nationals are record stating they used multiple signs before pitches.. and there are videos of the Asstro's attempting to sign steal Sherzer.
Sweet Peter Rosenberg! I was just waiting for him to say 'it was repug'
Congratulations 2 the Houston Astros..the Patriots of the mlb smh
KILLA.MODE.ONE.818 KILLA.MODE.ONE.317 Don’t disrespect the Patriots like that. Patriots are royalty compared to these chumps.
Cheatstros!
Can someone explain what a fastball is, what a sign is, and how knowing that can help win that sport ? I don't understand who plays against who in this sport. This is confusing.
Is the person throwing the ball in the same team or in the opposite team as the person trying to hit it ? What about the person trying to catch it ?
Did they find the metal trash can?
6:57 Oh that's another good point. Looking at how good these hitters are in their stadium. Is much of it because of the sign stealing? I guess maybe. They're still great hitters but now they have an unfair advantage. Also they're complicit in the cheating too!
This should be stripped from all their awards and titles
I think the MLB is mad that the Astros won the world series in 2017.
As the great Ben Maller would say “ BANG BANG “ hahahaha
Should have their title stripped
They can’t because someone has to win and they don’t know who would win so they can’t just give it to the Yankees or the dodgers
Chromies They can, the other team cheated so that would be the reason Astros won. They would have to crown the other teams.
@@Musicandgames13 ik im just saying they should even though it won't happen
What a stupid logic. So you find out people are cheating, but let's not investigate it bc others do it🤦♂️🤷♂️
You clearly didn't live through the steroid era
@@krakenmetzger I'm 32.
So do we get our 2017 championship or what
They should fine every single player who was on that team. The GM's and Manager should be fired and banned from the MLB and the Astro's should lose every single one of their draft picks next year.
Still no proof. This video is not proof. Beltran says it never happened wonder why he would risk saying that and losing his new job with the mets rather than just keeping quiet.
Mlb needs to suspend AJ Hinch 20 or more games next year
Astros still do this
Each team has their own network that travels with them. Who’s to say that they didn’t do it at away games. It’s their own camera operators and live feed. All of those camera feeds come into a Tri-Caster. We only see the feed that is broadcast. All of the other feeds and angles are seen by the engineer.
Astros: *Sign Stealing*
Nationals: Do i look like a fucking joke to you?
There's a huge bias all over this channel 😂
mch23 facts are bias?
mch23 how is a fact bias? This is cheating plain and simple.
Thanks for your worthless opinion!!
I said this years ago and pine tar on there hats
pine tars different everyone uses that
If it didnt help they wouldnt use it
It ain't cheating till you get caught. This has been going on over 25 yrs fellas with the evolution of new technology, stop acting like this is brand new and get mad. Punish them or don't, but this will continue.
NONSENSE!
All these people didn’t even read the article saying astros shouldn’t have won the WS but the article even said they couldn’t do this in the postseason and they didn’t
Those dirty little cheaters
Thumbs up if the Astros should have their 2017 World Series vacated. #TakeItBack
They set up a camera in center field in their home stadium to read the pitchers signs being laid down by the catcher. It's the definition of CHEATING. Strip them of whatever they won during that time period. Institute a BIG $$$ penalty every.single.player on that team, including the entire Staff all the way up to the Owners.
The fact that the Astros cheated and the Yankees & dodgers still took them 7 games tells you how much better both teams were compared to the cheaters lol
In 2017 I actually felt like the Astros k ew what pitch was coming! Now I know that was the case! Thanks for stealing the Dodgers WS you bunch of cheaters!
They better crown the dodgers World Series champions
and the saints better get a rematch with the rams lol gtfo
it should be easy to go back to games in 2017 and listen for these noises, it would be very easy to confirm
Took a page right out of the patriots play book! Lol classic