Cheers for this, I have been researching "what happens if you get a strike in bowling?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Piylivern Remarkable Predominance - (search on google ) ? It is a smashing one of a kind product for discovering how to up your bowling game quickly minus the headache. Ive heard some great things about it and my brother in law got great results with it.
I appreciated the analogy and explaining how to practice it focusing on the last step. I liked the small chunk of information which is something I can focus on. Thank you.
when he demonstrated, it look like his hand on top of ball, who wants to slow roll a ball just so it can hook, got to whip it down there too, that just as important as the hook, the speed to obliterate those pins.
Guys you are headed in the right direction but as you already know there are many videos on UA-cam that show the one step drill. A different and IMO a more helpful kind of video would be one that not only does a one step drill but tell the viewer what are the fingers doing? what is the arm doing? what is the elbow doing? what is the wrist doing? Maybe its a matter of not having the time to fill in the gaps or maybe you guys are such natural bowlers that you don't even think about the micro details of the release. In any case I appreciate what you guys are trying to do for bowlers.
This is the question of the century. I have been wondering what the fingers are doing at the point of release in my entire life. It would be nice if someone can actually answer it. I have watched the USBC channel's videos many times, but none of them have ever speak of what the fingers are doing in the holes of the bowling ball.
If you want to get an explanation of the real technical stuff of the release, or any facet of the physical game, go search for Joe Slowinski's articles. He's the king of technical. If I had to take a shot at answering your question, I think most elite level bowlers would say "nothing". The fingers are just meant to stay in the holes of the bowling ball, it's how we hold onto it. As far as the release, I would say they don't actually do much. It's more about the wrist, arm, and elbow. In short though, you want the thumb to exit quickly, and you want the ring and middle fingers to stay in the ball for as long as possible. The further your fingers are underneath the ball + how fast you "unload" = rev rate. Easy to say, extremely hard to master. I think what these guys could do is get some 120 FPS slow motion of their own releases and actually talk about how it works, especially for them. Watch high quality slow motion of PBA releases on YT to help understand the visual of it.
I guess it's more of my own personal opinion. I don't think the fingers that go in the holes actually do much. They pretty much remain stationary throughout the whole swing and into the release. To simplify, that means to me that the wrist/hand performs most of the release, not the fingers. The fingers imparting revolutions onto the ball is a byproduct of the wrist cupping and uncupping. I would say the only caveat is grip pressure, and you want as little of that as possible. What you say about some players putting emphasis on the ring finger or middle finger is true, but those are really just keys to try and get the hand into a desired position. That's my 2 cents anyway. :)
Definitely agree with you there. Our sport could do with a ton more instruction video, especially stuff involving the release and slow motion, because it happens so fast.
Talk about how you have the finger holes staggered on your bowling ball. It looks like the ring finger hole is higher than the middle finger. Can you make a video on why you had the ball drilled that way? At 2:32 you can really see what I'm talking about.
Its actually quite easy to understand but difficult to master. Basically load up ur elbow and wrist and keep it that way and then unload it while it passes ur toe. Make sure u dont turn your hand to much during the release and keep it behind the ball
i no this is an old post but have you tried to get you hand to bend back in you backswing then at the point of release you snap that wrist forward. 30 years ago I used this release with a Columbus white dot ball and the second have of league play where the pattern was 45 ft flat oil . I actually in the second half of league play averaged 228 for the second half of play and raised my average from 170 to 202 overall. it's a interesting release back then they didn't have a good way to judge your exact speed downlane and your revs but this is how we did it . we put a piece of tape just above the finger holes parallel with the fingers. then someone counted the times the taped rolled over. we we told a pro had about 30 revolutions I had with this release 45 revs.
My question is besides hand under the ball, how about the wrist wrist out and then in doing that process? Otherwise you just need to both forward right?
If you kneel down, don't support yourself with your left hand and try to get under and lift your bowling ball from the right, you will tip over. However, if you bend your elbow inward, in a V-shape from you shoulder to your elbow and back again to the ball, you will have the leverage to get under and crook your wrist so as to impart a side roll. The inside elbow at the start and at the point of release and turn gives you the leverage you need to hook the ball.
Having a 15 lbs ball and only going 11 to 10 mph down the lane, would this be the ball is just heavy for me? Ebonite gyro 1 urethane. Still find my self throw it out on lane on top of the ball.
so im right handed my old ball when i was young would sping to left now with my new ball i got a few years ago spins to the right not sure if the holes are causin it or if its just me
Hey guys. What if you are a bowler like Daughtery, the no thumb style? Is being too much under the ball a problem? Some tell me that my ball goes right through the break point and I don’t know why. Is it my speed?
So I hope I can still an answer, but I've been throwing a backup ball for a little while and I'm doing ok. I avg out in the 180's peaking around 250 in my usual game. I feel the need to move over to a normal right hook, but have no clue how to adjust myself to make it happen. I've tried alot of throws and worked on the approach but I always get hung up in the wrist action of the throw. Now I can throw a decent no thumb right hand hook but I tend to let go to early so my ball just hooks super late..any thing you can advise?? P.S it was awesome to watch you in this last week's Roth Doubles
Perhaps you guys can do a video series of how the previous steps can mess up from staying under the ball? I like the videos that show a general idea of what we're trying to achieve but in bowling, it's very hard to get to this "under the ball" position if there are a few technical errors going on during the approach. One thing I have recently found that kills staying under the ball is letting the bowling shoulder rotate forward too early and you have no choice but to come over and around the ball early too. Thanks for all the great content!
Brad and Kyle if I haven’t bowled since 93-94 what are some best ways to get back into it the last time I picked up a bowling ball it felt like it weighed 30Lbs
hey guys, I'm thinking about taking up bowling as a hobbie. As a beginner, is it a good idea to buy a good ball like a Motiv Venom Shock or something of a proline?
Brad & Kyle that's the thing. i don't know what weight ball to use or if a Hammer ball would be better for me than a Venom shock. can you give me some pointers how to go about this?
Go to a pro-shop and talk to them about what you are looking to get out of a ball. I have a Motiv Venom Cobra and while it is a nice ball it isn't suited to an every day lane. it's a good ball when there is a lot of oil still on the lane before they break down, but once the lane breaks down it starts going too crazy. So I will switch to my Ebonite Mission Unknown which seems to be a little more consistent to medium-high to medium oil conditions. If you are just beginning, I would suggest to not try to get something that is going to be real early/aggressive. Try to find something that is more consistent that you can throw to work on your approach and mechanics. Get your feet right! Get comfortable with your steps and release. Pay some money to take some lessons to help with that. Once you get to where you are able to shoot a consistent shot and basically just move your feet to adjust while maintaining the same steps and release, then entertain a monster ball. Again, have the pro-shop help you, and see about taking lessons. I've been bowling league for 25+ years and I'll still take a few lessons to work out some issues with my mechanics. Oh yeah, and don't get frustrated! Bowling gets much worse the more frustrated you get. Lol
Ron Balch thanks man. i really appreciate your advise, i think your right. I'll go and take a few lessons and find out what ball would be right for me. thanks again bro!
Injured my wrist trying to do this with a 15lb ball. Holding your wrist straight at the release creates a lot of leverage, not to mention there’s already centrifugal force. I’d suggest warning beginners about the dangers of starting too heavy without a wrist brace.
Beginner bowler here... are there any tips you have on how to keep the wrist in the right position. I've been bowling with house balls for 2 years and used 2 fingers while cradling the ball to get hook on the house balls. I was to do a more traditional release with the new ball I just got but I cant seem to go under it. I'm thinking maybe 12 is too heavy but I was using 12 lbs on the house balls already so I dont think it's the weight
Hold your index finger as far away from your middle finger as is comfortable on the ball (nearly every pro does this, just watch one of them setup to see what I mean), then apply pressure with the index finger pushing into the ball as you execute the swing. This will help your wrist to not break back. Follow through the swing and focus on the last thing to touch the ball being your middle finger... don't try and accelerate the swing, just let it happen at whatever speed it is already going for starters. Don't try and rotate the ball either. It'll turn your hand on its own, its heavy enough. Hope that helps, takes a while to get used to it. I'm sure there are other ways, but that is how I get a fair amount of hook.
I'd like to suggest a video regarding timing of the release and tips to keep it consistent. I see a lot of bowlers (including myself) that get a tad early on their release. Also, a video showing the different styles of hook and how to achieve them. I have a friend who would like to master all of them (stroker, tweener and cranker).
If you redo the video but step to the left to watch your shot so the camera sees what the ball is doing. Maybe do a close up slow motion so we can see the twist in the wrist as you go from bowling straight and finishing with the twist and release. Maybe include a southpaw to the tutorial. Fanks for doing this tutorial.
Despite doing a lot of wrist curls and exercising to strengthening forearm after a motorcycle accident I have a problem trying to stay under a 14 pound ball. I'm thinking of getting a 13 pound ball despite knowing it won't won't hit with the same energy as a heavier ball. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
My perfect teaching taught my little brother and many others the most simplest way to learn hook. It's called the hand shake and it's how my hook is strong too.
I think there were moments in the video where you could definitely see the value and effectiveness of keeping your hand underneath the ball as shown in do's and don'ts diagram where cocking the wrist back as though you will get extra action on the ball is actually very counter productive and that the throw doesn't need to be that hard. I would also like to see them show how to hold the ball, whether the thumb should be lined up behind the two fingers and whether or not you should try to rotate the wrist as you release the ball. You could comment for immediate feedback while you think about redoing the video or another video as a response. I have watched a lot of golf videos and the best ones are from instructors who respond positively to questions or criticism.
Some complaining are off base cause at 2'30" they showed ball reaction down lane. Also, the main POINT was demo using the ONE step drill while trying to keep hand 'under or behind' the ball, not releasing from top. But he should have moved left out of way. And to any haters bagging on these guys, I've seen both of them on Fox sports TV in PBA tournaments.
I need help cos I’m in a disability lead in Frankston in Melbourne at zones Bowling the only thing the i need help with is my hand cos im a straight bowler I only having trouble with my hands and need help with it and I don’t want any low games next year cos there reasons why I can’t say I just need help with the hands any tips on the for me please
Thank you for the tips i'm in a bowling league at capital plaza and I took down notes so this helps me a lot so thank you again and this is Nariah Claire Coleman here so thank you
I’m so frustrated. I’m dedicated to figuring this out and I just can’t. I can fire it down the lane straight into the pocket but can’t get any rotation or curve. So frustrating, when I try the ball just spins or doesn’t curve.
How do I keep myself from grabbing the ball right at the release of my swing, it might be because I'm just getting back into bowling after 5 years of not playing, but I've noticed myself grabbing it right on release
could be a few things: You could be grabbing because your fit isn't quite right. You could be grabbing because your shoulders are either too open or too closed. You could be grabbing because your swing timing isn't matching up with your feet.
You could focus being smoother in your approach and timing, also just letting the ball roll off your hand. Instead of forcing the ball to your breakpoint.
I saw bowling on tv last night for the first time in a long while. When did peopel start using two hands? And not even putting the fingers in the holes? I missed that change.
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How can I loosen a controlled, muscled backswing. I’d like to have a more free flowing pendulum backswing. The funny thing is I can’t feel that it’s this way, I’ve been bowling so long like this it just seems natural.
First off are you a 4 or 5 step approach bowler? For a 5 step, practice the 1,2,3 step to get timing right and let gravity take over, for a 4 step it's 1,2 step ofcourse. On the 5 step, make sure to put 2nd step and ball into motion when your toes from first step touches ground. Think of it like putting on the gaspedal in a car, it's the momentum you put everything else into motion. When you practice this excersise you might notice some changes in your timing, but that's ok. Look up timing point 1 on bowling to see where you should be at when the ball is at it's lowest. Let someone film your practice session. Together with the 1 step drill it's one of the best excersises i give my students and after 3-4 of these sessions they seem major changes and far more relaxed swing, no muscles needed anymore.
Great advice. I'll add in something that has really helped me. I'm a 4 step bowler and I developed a bad habit from my younger stronger days of starting off with the ball down low like next to my hip. For the last couple of weeks in league I started with it up shoulder height and it has really helped. Let gravity be your friend!
Hey dudes - so I am a 200 average bowler and I've bowled for over 10 years, 15-16mph and low-medium revs. I've been struggling for a while trying to get my revs up in order to open up the lane. One thing that often ends up happening is that I cup my wrist to try and keep my hand under the ball and subsequently end up pinching the ball with my fingers/thumb. Then when I go to release I don't get a smooth motion because it often sticks when my thumb isn't relaxed in the thumb hole. Any advice?
most drillers dont give the right pitches to have the ball clear your thumb at a good time. you probably need the thumb pitched at least 1/8 reverse and 1/8 left and the fingertips probably need to be at least 1/4 reverse also.
I'm not "doing something wrong"... I've bowled the same stroker style my whole life with a straighter wrist at release. I've just began practicing a more cupped wrist release in order to achieve more revs in an attempt to gain higher entry angles to the pocket so I can strike more consistently and increase my average. For example, just because I have a 200 average with one hand doesn't mean I know how to bowl a 200 average with two hands.
Brad and Kyle....I've got a question that's been bugging me for years. My question has to deal with what target(s) the pro's are looking at when they're releasing the ball. I've seen some pros initially look down the lanes (at the break point or arrows) and stay focused on those points throughout the approach. Then, there have been pro's that initially look down the lane at the arrows then just before they release the ball....they're looking near the foul line. Then finally, I've seen where the pro's target a pin or arrow down the lane,...go into the approach and look at the foul line or dots.....then just as they're releasing the ball....they look up again at something up the lane either arrows or the break point. In your opinion....what is the best thing(s) to focus on? I'm thinking my last example is the best....what say you?
Larry L most pro bowlers visualize where they want the ball to go, basically they draw a line from the pocket to breakpoint to arrows or wherever your looking. When you draw that path you can look anywhere on that path, you just have to hit that path and be most comfortable where your looking on that path.
Larry, I'd echo what TSlim said as well. In your pre-shot routine, you should draw a line on the lane where that ball should go. Freeze that picture into your head as you start your approach. As to where on the lane to target this is somewhat subjective and preference by bowler. As long as you can use your method to consistently hit your target you are doing fine. I personally keep my eyes at the arrows in the initial approach and then look down at the foul line at time of release. I do this because I can see the boards at my feet and it gives me a better idea of where I'm trying to throw the ball. Good luck and good scores!
Suggestion. When you want us see how a ball goes into the gutter or spin or whatever, you might not want to stand in front the camera and blocking the entire thing. Throw the ball and then step to the side so the camera can catch it hence us seeing it.
If you want to practice the proper hand position and releasing the ball with your fingers, go get a football. Then try to throw the football underhanded and get a good spiral on it. That is the same hand position and finger release you want when throwing a bowling ball.
2:38 "Okay, lets see it."
*Stands in the way so we can't see it*
Couldn't have put it better myself.
And I was about to attempt just that before I saw your comment.
Couldn’t of they put a difference angle
XD you said it best!
I was there so I saw it
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Don't worry I definitely saw that hook by watching your back.
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Jeff Allen you're supposed to look at the release not the hook
It is the release not the lane, you can’t control something out of your hand practice and get back to me
You can tell by the remaining pins where the ball struck. It would have been nice if he stepped aside though
Cheers for this, I have been researching "what happens if you get a strike in bowling?" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Piylivern Remarkable Predominance - (search on google ) ? It is a smashing one of a kind product for discovering how to up your bowling game quickly minus the headache. Ive heard some great things about it and my brother in law got great results with it.
why does it look like a green screen
Hahahahha
Too much light
I legit was thinking that and looked down at the comments.. and there it was😂
They in the matrix.
Looks like a green screen because of the straight shot, if they had the camera off to the right or left 2-3 feet it would look more natural.
Practise at home
Not everyone has a bowling alley
Practice the motion not throwing the ball.
Exactly my thought 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@austinclifford1986 I just throw into a chair
Wii Sports 😂
ijsbeer 😂
1:31 listen when he takes out his fingers
Pop
Okay?
LMAO!!!
The only thing I learned from this is how not to make an instructional bowling video.
Lol
I don’t get it
@@ssuperant6537 it means their tutorial video is so bad that no one can understand how to bowl by watching this
The camera bounce when the ball hits the lane is priceless. Thanks guys.
I appreciated the analogy and explaining how to practice it focusing on the last step. I liked the small chunk of information which is something I can focus on. Thank you.
Legend says that he is still talking, and not actually throwing the ball.
when he demonstrated, it look like his hand on top of ball, who wants to slow roll a ball just so it can hook, got to whip it down there too, that just as important as the hook, the speed to obliterate those pins.
I see guys hook, but I can let them throw, wait like a second, then throw mine, and beat them to the pins.
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Me: *sticks fingers inside bowling ball holes*
Bowling ball: Daddy
Me: WTF
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Do u guys play fortnite
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Since most of my gutter balls are to the right side of the lane this video has helped evenly disperse my gutter ball failures.
Thanks Brad and Kyle!
1:31 I've heard that sound before but not from a bowling ball! LOL!
it can be from a bowling ball :/
Guys you are headed in the right direction but as you already know there are many videos on UA-cam that show the one step drill. A different and IMO a more helpful kind of video would be one that not only does a one step drill but tell the viewer what are the fingers doing? what is the arm doing? what is the elbow doing? what is the wrist doing? Maybe its a matter of not having the time to fill in the gaps or maybe you guys are such natural bowlers that you don't even think about the micro details of the release. In any case I appreciate what you guys are trying to do for bowlers.
This is the question of the century. I have been wondering what the fingers are doing at the point of release in my entire life. It would be nice if someone can actually answer it. I have watched the USBC channel's videos many times, but none of them have ever speak of what the fingers are doing in the holes of the bowling ball.
If you want to get an explanation of the real technical stuff of the release, or any facet of the physical game, go search for Joe Slowinski's articles. He's the king of technical. If I had to take a shot at answering your question, I think most elite level bowlers would say "nothing". The fingers are just meant to stay in the holes of the bowling ball, it's how we hold onto it. As far as the release, I would say they don't actually do much. It's more about the wrist, arm, and elbow. In short though, you want the thumb to exit quickly, and you want the ring and middle fingers to stay in the ball for as long as possible. The further your fingers are underneath the ball + how fast you "unload" = rev rate. Easy to say, extremely hard to master. I think what these guys could do is get some 120 FPS slow motion of their own releases and actually talk about how it works, especially for them. Watch high quality slow motion of PBA releases on YT to help understand the visual of it.
I guess it's more of my own personal opinion. I don't think the fingers that go in the holes actually do much. They pretty much remain stationary throughout the whole swing and into the release. To simplify, that means to me that the wrist/hand performs most of the release, not the fingers. The fingers imparting revolutions onto the ball is a byproduct of the wrist cupping and uncupping. I would say the only caveat is grip pressure, and you want as little of that as possible. What you say about some players putting emphasis on the ring finger or middle finger is true, but those are really just keys to try and get the hand into a desired position. That's my 2 cents anyway. :)
Definitely agree with you there. Our sport could do with a ton more instruction video, especially stuff involving the release and slow motion, because it happens so fast.
I found this video on Berts bowls guide - there are plenty more useful videos there that should help you
Move out of the way. Nobody can see the ball motion
its about the technique anyways
1:31 pop
Lol
Talk about how you have the finger holes staggered on your bowling ball. It looks like the ring finger hole is higher than the middle finger. Can you make a video on why you had the ball drilled that way? At 2:32 you can really see what I'm talking about.
We need another vid on this. Is it more so your fingers or thumb that help with keeping your hand under the ball?
hey brad & kyle i did the drill but my arm was tired afterwards is that normal or am i doing something wrong keep up the maken them videos
You the man I rolling gutter balls first four took a break watched your video started getting spares and strikes
First throw was texted book, I watch it while practicing, thank you
Didn't see anything but his back....lol
Emanuela Davis exactly
Its actually quite easy to understand but difficult to master.
Basically load up ur elbow and wrist and keep it that way and then unload it while it passes ur toe. Make sure u dont turn your hand to much during the release and keep it behind the ball
I'm researching bowls and found a great resource at Berts bowls guide (look it up on google)
Emanuela Davis same 😆
That ass
Love the way the guy on the left cuts across the other guy at 3:08
liydah1 noticed that too 😂
i no this is an old post but have you tried to get you hand to bend back in you backswing then at the point of release you snap that wrist forward. 30 years ago I used this release with a Columbus white dot ball and the second have of league play where the pattern was 45 ft flat oil . I actually in the second half of league play averaged 228 for the second half of play and raised my average from 170 to 202 overall. it's a interesting release back then they didn't have a good way to judge your exact speed downlane and your revs but this is how we did it . we put a piece of tape just above the finger holes parallel with the fingers. then someone counted the times the taped rolled over. we we told a pro had about 30 revolutions I had with this release 45 revs.
My question is besides hand under the ball, how about the wrist wrist out and then in doing that process? Otherwise you just need to both forward right?
Should show (slo-mo) close up of hand during release. And at different angles.
If you kneel down, don't support yourself with your left hand and try to get under and lift your bowling ball from the right, you will tip over. However, if you bend your elbow inward, in a V-shape from you shoulder to your elbow and back again to the ball, you will have the leverage to get under and crook your wrist so as to impart a side roll. The inside elbow at the start and at the point of release and turn gives you the leverage you need to hook the ball.
Having a 15 lbs ball and only going 11 to 10 mph down the lane, would this be the ball is just heavy for me? Ebonite gyro 1 urethane. Still find my self throw it out on lane on top of the ball.
so im right handed my old ball when i was young would sping to left now with my new ball i got a few years ago spins to the right not sure if the holes are causin it or if its just me
Please explain the ball rolling onto the fingers as it comes down without the thumb engaged.
I normally cant pick up any spares except today, today i did awesome.
Hey guys. What if you are a bowler like Daughtery, the no thumb style? Is being too much under the ball a problem? Some tell me that my ball goes right through the break point and I don’t know why. Is it my speed?
Great video This Helped Me a Lot! 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
So I hope I can still an answer, but I've been throwing a backup ball for a little while and I'm doing ok. I avg out in the 180's peaking around 250 in my usual game. I feel the need to move over to a normal right hook, but have no clue how to adjust myself to make it happen. I've tried alot of throws and worked on the approach but I always get hung up in the wrist action of the throw. Now I can throw a decent no thumb right hand hook but I tend to let go to early so my ball just hooks super late..any thing you can advise?? P.S it was awesome to watch you in this last week's Roth Doubles
J R Raymond has some advice for a back up ball release some kind of practice band to go from wrist to elbow. No disrespect to Kyle and Brad of course
03:33 he said 'ball motion', that was pretty kool
Thanks for the tips just made 2 strikes in a row!
Love the video but do backward bowlers are allowed in the league?
Perhaps you guys can do a video series of how the previous steps can mess up from staying under the ball? I like the videos that show a general idea of what we're trying to achieve but in bowling, it's very hard to get to this "under the ball" position if there are a few technical errors going on during the approach. One thing I have recently found that kills staying under the ball is letting the bowling shoulder rotate forward too early and you have no choice but to come over and around the ball early too. Thanks for all the great content!
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which arm is a better throw the ball...
left arm hand or right arm hand...
no matter ether way arm / hand what player prefer throw ball
Brad and Kyle if I haven’t bowled since 93-94 what are some best ways to get back into it the last time I picked up a bowling ball it felt like it weighed 30Lbs
I am there with you. Amazon has a 7 piece wrist and forearm strengthening kit for 24 dollars, gonna give it a try.
Name a more iconic duo, I'll wait.
Great vid thanks for the tips guys
hey guys, I'm thinking about taking up bowling as a hobbie. As a beginner, is it a good idea to buy a good ball like a Motiv Venom Shock or something of a proline?
Brad & Kyle that's the thing. i don't know what weight ball to use or if a Hammer ball would be better for me than a Venom shock. can you give me some pointers how to go about this?
Go to a pro-shop and talk to them about what you are looking to get out of a ball. I have a Motiv Venom Cobra and while it is a nice ball it isn't suited to an every day lane. it's a good ball when there is a lot of oil still on the lane before they break down, but once the lane breaks down it starts going too crazy. So I will switch to my Ebonite Mission Unknown which seems to be a little more consistent to medium-high to medium oil conditions.
If you are just beginning, I would suggest to not try to get something that is going to be real early/aggressive. Try to find something that is more consistent that you can throw to work on your approach and mechanics. Get your feet right! Get comfortable with your steps and release. Pay some money to take some lessons to help with that. Once you get to where you are able to shoot a consistent shot and basically just move your feet to adjust while maintaining the same steps and release, then entertain a monster ball.
Again, have the pro-shop help you, and see about taking lessons. I've been bowling league for 25+ years and I'll still take a few lessons to work out some issues with my mechanics.
Oh yeah, and don't get frustrated! Bowling gets much worse the more frustrated you get. Lol
Ron Balch thanks man. i really appreciate your advise, i think your right. I'll go and take a few lessons and find out what ball would be right for me. thanks again bro!
Hey Brad and Kyle is there a difference between a non-conventional and a conventional drilled ball
LaterClips vid about a fight in a bowling alley brought me here lol. I saw a “hook” and a “swing” but not like this 😂
Injured my wrist trying to do this with a 15lb ball. Holding your wrist straight at the release creates a lot of leverage, not to mention there’s already centrifugal force. I’d suggest warning beginners about the dangers of starting too heavy without a wrist brace.
Beginner bowler here... are there any tips you have on how to keep the wrist in the right position. I've been bowling with house balls for 2 years and used 2 fingers while cradling the ball to get hook on the house balls. I was to do a more traditional release with the new ball I just got but I cant seem to go under it. I'm thinking maybe 12 is too heavy but I was using 12 lbs on the house balls already so I dont think it's the weight
Hold your index finger as far away from your middle finger as is comfortable on the ball (nearly every pro does this, just watch one of them setup to see what I mean), then apply pressure with the index finger pushing into the ball as you execute the swing. This will help your wrist to not break back. Follow through the swing and focus on the last thing to touch the ball being your middle finger... don't try and accelerate the swing, just let it happen at whatever speed it is already going for starters. Don't try and rotate the ball either. It'll turn your hand on its own, its heavy enough. Hope that helps, takes a while to get used to it. I'm sure there are other ways, but that is how I get a fair amount of hook.
I'd like to suggest a video regarding timing of the release and tips to keep it consistent. I see a lot of bowlers (including myself) that get a tad early on their release. Also, a video showing the different styles of hook and how to achieve them. I have a friend who would like to master all of them (stroker, tweener and cranker).
1:30 ‘It’s a great drill because it’ll break your floor’
If you redo the video but step to the left to watch your shot so the camera sees what the ball is doing. Maybe do a close up slow motion so we can see the twist in the wrist as you go from bowling straight and finishing with the twist and release. Maybe include a southpaw to the tutorial. Fanks for doing this tutorial.
I'm using a 14ib ball....and at times struggle to get spin on my ball or hook. Do I need to work on technique or maybe obtain a lower weight ball?
Thanks for this video, I'm beginner on this thing.
Really informative, but I can't help but notice that for some reason it looks like you guys are standing in front of a green screen!
2:48 Got to remember to get out of the way of the camera so we can see. :-)
Good idea of the video and a good reminder. This video will help me control my ball hand properly. Thanks guys.
Thanks guys for a useles video...P.S MOVE OUT THE WAY''
Despite doing a lot of wrist curls and exercising to strengthening forearm after a motorcycle accident I have a problem trying to stay under a 14 pound ball. I'm thinking of getting a 13 pound ball despite knowing it won't won't hit with the same energy as a heavier ball. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
My perfect teaching taught my little brother and many others the most simplest way to learn hook. It's called the hand shake and it's how my hook is strong too.
Great video it helped a lot
Is it valid to just stop at the foul line and swing your arm 3-4 times before delivery?
How do you slow your ball down to get that hook, if your more of a speed or power bowler down and end.
I think there were moments in the video where you could definitely see the value and effectiveness of keeping your hand underneath the ball as shown in do's and don'ts diagram where cocking the wrist back as though you will get extra action on the ball is actually very counter productive and that the throw doesn't need to be that hard. I would also like to see them show how to hold the ball, whether the thumb should be lined up behind the two fingers and whether or not you should try to rotate the wrist as you release the ball. You could comment for immediate feedback while you think about redoing the video or another video as a response. I have watched a lot of golf videos and the best ones are from instructors who respond positively to questions or criticism.
I'm 135 lb and it feel like my 12lb ball alittle to heavy for me to hook it, some time it will feels like it slipping off of my fingers.
I'm a social bowler I bought a tiger visaball and had it drilled for myself, but I was told it was a straight ball not a hook ball, is this right?
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Thats exactly what i thought
Hey Brad and Kyle. Any tips on developing a CONSISTENT release?
Just practice honestly.
@@BradandKyleBowl can you guys do a video on how to add a power step to your game for those of us who doesn't have one?
Some complaining are off base cause at 2'30" they showed ball reaction down lane. Also, the main POINT was demo using the ONE step drill while trying to keep hand 'under or behind' the ball, not releasing from top. But he should have moved left out of way. And to any haters bagging on these guys, I've seen both of them on Fox sports TV in PBA tournaments.
Yeah the drill is great. The problem for me is getting it right in my regular approach. Ahh always end up on top of the ball!! Very difficult!!!
What is the rule for how heavy ball you should use?
Lots of odd whining in the comments. This is actually the best description I've ever seen/heard of the yo-yo method.
Wesley Stafford have u heard of that song u can’t play it my yo yo
I need help cos I’m in a disability lead in Frankston in Melbourne at zones Bowling the only thing the i need help with is my hand cos im a straight bowler I only having trouble with my hands and need help with it and I don’t want any low games next year cos there reasons why I can’t say I just need help with the hands any tips on the for me please
Hey I'm a right handed bowler but I can't throw off my left foot it feels unnatural. Any tips on that?
Muchas gracias x tu ayuda. Hice pleno nada más verlo. Bendisiones
guys im fullroller bowller oil trace beteween fingers, what should i do to change to semiroller,
Thanks for the video you gave me good advice
What about the inside to outside hand motion?
Me: Has only played bowling once in his life many years ago
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Thank you for the tips i'm in a bowling league at capital plaza and I took down notes so this helps me a lot so thank you again and this is Nariah Claire Coleman here so thank you
cool name...!!
I’m so frustrated. I’m dedicated to figuring this out and I just can’t. I can fire it down the lane straight into the pocket but can’t get any rotation or curve. So frustrating, when I try the ball just spins or doesn’t curve.
I couldn't get my ball to hook until I stopped using the holes. Much easier for me to position my hand and spin the ball.
Blaze Fury Exactly, I can do it too if I don’t put my fingers in
Good info. Keep it up.
I found a useful collection of videos that will help on Berts Bowls Guide
1:30 When you pull your fingers out of your stepsister.
Wtf
Uuuuummmm what the hell??
I always try to keep my hand behind the ball, but it's so difficult. My hand always is on the top of the ball when I swing the ball... :(
How do I keep myself from grabbing the ball right at the release of my swing, it might be because I'm just getting back into bowling after 5 years of not playing, but I've noticed myself grabbing it right on release
could be a few things: You could be grabbing because your fit isn't quite right. You could be grabbing because your shoulders are either too open or too closed. You could be grabbing because your swing timing isn't matching up with your feet.
You could focus being smoother in your approach and timing, also just letting the ball roll off your hand. Instead of forcing the ball to your breakpoint.
I saw bowling on tv last night for the first time in a long while. When did peopel start using two hands? And not even putting the fingers in the holes? I missed that change.
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How can I loosen a controlled, muscled backswing. I’d like to have a more free flowing pendulum backswing. The funny thing is I can’t feel that it’s this way, I’ve been bowling so long like this it just seems natural.
First off are you a 4 or 5 step approach bowler? For a 5 step, practice the 1,2,3 step to get timing right and let gravity take over, for a 4 step it's 1,2 step ofcourse.
On the 5 step, make sure to put 2nd step and ball into motion when your toes from first step touches ground. Think of it like putting on the gaspedal in a car, it's the momentum you put everything else into motion. When you practice this excersise you might notice some changes in your timing, but that's ok. Look up timing point 1 on bowling to see where you should be at when the ball is at it's lowest. Let someone film your practice session. Together with the 1 step drill it's one of the best excersises i give my students and after 3-4 of these sessions they seem major changes and far more relaxed swing, no muscles needed anymore.
Great advice. I'll add in something that has really helped me. I'm a 4 step bowler and I developed a bad habit from my younger stronger days of starting off with the ball down low like next to my hip. For the last couple of weeks in league I started with it up shoulder height and it has really helped. Let gravity be your friend!
Great video, thnx🙏
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Hey dudes - so I am a 200 average bowler and I've bowled for over 10 years, 15-16mph and low-medium revs. I've been struggling for a while trying to get my revs up in order to open up the lane. One thing that often ends up happening is that I cup my wrist to try and keep my hand under the ball and subsequently end up pinching the ball with my fingers/thumb. Then when I go to release I don't get a smooth motion because it often sticks when my thumb isn't relaxed in the thumb hole. Any advice?
most drillers dont give the right pitches to have the ball clear your thumb at a good time. you probably need the thumb pitched at least 1/8 reverse and 1/8 left and the fingertips probably need to be at least 1/4 reverse also.
How can you possibly assume his pitch from a UA-cam comment unless you’re suggesting that he reverse his current pitch by and eighth
If you're a 200 average bowler shouldn't you already know what you're doing wrong?
I'm not "doing something wrong"... I've bowled the same stroker style my whole life with a straighter wrist at release. I've just began practicing a more cupped wrist release in order to achieve more revs in an attempt to gain higher entry angles to the pocket so I can strike more consistently and increase my average. For example, just because I have a 200 average with one hand doesn't mean I know how to bowl a 200 average with two hands.
Add some vaseline it won't stick again
Brad and Kyle....I've got a question that's been bugging me for years. My question has to deal with what target(s) the pro's are looking at when they're releasing the ball. I've seen some pros initially look down the lanes (at the break point or arrows) and stay focused on those points throughout the approach. Then, there have been pro's that initially look down the lane at the arrows then just before they release the ball....they're looking near the foul line. Then finally, I've seen where the pro's target a pin or arrow down the lane,...go into the approach and look at the foul line or dots.....then just as they're releasing the ball....they look up again at something up the lane either arrows or the break point. In your opinion....what is the best thing(s) to focus on? I'm thinking my last example is the best....what say you?
Larry L most pro bowlers visualize where they want the ball to go, basically they draw a line from the pocket to breakpoint to arrows or wherever your looking. When you draw that path you can look anywhere on that path, you just have to hit that path and be most comfortable where your looking on that path.
Larry, I'd echo what TSlim said as well. In your pre-shot routine, you should draw a line on the lane where that ball should go. Freeze that picture into your head as you start your approach. As to where on the lane to target this is somewhat subjective and preference by bowler. As long as you can use your method to consistently hit your target you are doing fine.
I personally keep my eyes at the arrows in the initial approach and then look down at the foul line at time of release. I do this because I can see the boards at my feet and it gives me a better idea of where I'm trying to throw the ball.
Good luck and good scores!
I'd like to thank both TSlim COD and you Jeremie Grund for your response. You both have given me something to think about.
He be a perfect cop with that obstruction there
how about a Video on thumb fit and tape !
How to be consistent at hitting the pocket on a house shot.
Suggestion. When you want us see how a ball goes into the gutter or spin or whatever, you might not want to stand in front the camera and blocking the entire thing. Throw the ball and then step to the side so the camera can catch it hence us seeing it.
I learned how to spin a pin if that counts
If you want to practice the proper hand position and releasing the ball with your fingers, go get a football. Then try to throw the football underhanded and get a good spiral on it. That is the same hand position and finger release you want when throwing a bowling ball.
I made the bowling team,but I need a lot of more tips
Good Video...Thanks !!!
The camera work reminds me of my gf videoing me and missing the one and only strike I did the whole night
Honestly breaking your wrist is a correct way to create revolutions. Many people do not understand this