Writing Rate Laws of Reaction Mechanisms Using The Rate Determining Step - Chemical Kinetics

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    For everyone wondering on why it’s not 2h2o2 for the last one it’s because overall reaction is solely determined on slow process

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      Isn’t having I in rate equation a violation to one of the conditions? And then replace it using rate formed = rate reversed?

    • @LKOO7
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      If it is soley determined on slow process, why is there no I-?

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  • @pelumiemmanuel7965
    @pelumiemmanuel7965 2 роки тому +34

    Since the rate law is determined by the coefficient of the reactants…
    Then why is 2H2O2 written as “k[H2O2]^1” instead of “k[H2O2]^2”

    • @Kamal17824
      @Kamal17824 8 місяців тому

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    • @Kamal17824
      @Kamal17824 8 місяців тому +7

      Turns out it’s because we only write what the slow step is. Since the slow step only has H2O2 we only write that since we follow the slow step only

    • @RichardMwaba-g4e
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      Now does mean also the overall reaction also depends on the slow reaction or what??😢

    • @TheNobleQuran11462
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      @@RichardMwaba-g4e exactly that's what he said in the video "The rate will always depend on the slow step"

    • @JuayryahRU
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      Its because the rate law is affected by the stoichiometric coefficients only for the elementary reactions, not for the overall reaction

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  • @animefan7628
    @animefan7628 4 місяці тому +6

    13:15 there are two NO2's so why is it not third order. when you had 2A + B -> C you did [A]^2 [B], so why dont you also put it to the power of 2 in that one. Thanks

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  • @sheetalkonda7280
    @sheetalkonda7280 3 роки тому +35

    Question: at time 13:20
    Since there is one molecule of O3 and 2 molecules of NO2, Shouldn't k= [O3] [NO2]^2?
    Then the reaction would be first order with respect to O3, second order with respect to NO2 and third order overall?

    • @kingpyrrhusofepirus6686
      @kingpyrrhusofepirus6686 3 роки тому +15

      So you only look at the rate determining step when writing rate law. The rate determining step will al always be the slow step.

    • @morathicasas7520
      @morathicasas7520 3 роки тому +19

      No, the rule that you are thinking of, about the molecularity and how the coefficients equal the reactant order, only applies to "elementary reactions". It does not apply to this overall reaction because it is a multistep reaction. He says this at 9:05 . The reaction order(s) of an overall reaction that is multistep depends on the rate law of the determining step.

    • @keanupie8399
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    • @kingpyrrhusofepirus6686
      @kingpyrrhusofepirus6686 2 роки тому +3

      @@keanupie8399 It's been awhile for me, but I think they will usually either give you the rates of each step, or they will simply tell you one of them is the slow step depending on the question.

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    Question for the last example wouldn’t the rate constant be= k[H2O2]^2?

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    • @prestonrossi7597
      @prestonrossi7597 2 роки тому +18

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      For a multi-step reaction, the slow step (rate limiting/rate determining step) determines the rate of the whole chemical reaction even when your overall reaction has different molar coefficient/s. In other words, stick to the slow step at all times when writing the rate law of the reaction.

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    Why we can't write the intermediate in rate law even its rate-determining approximations?

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    @01FrozenFuze 2 роки тому +3

    In 13:20 wouldn't it be Fast Rate = K [ NO3 ] [ NO2 ] rather than Rate = K [ O3 ] [ NO2 ]?

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    what happened to that other fast/slow step video where u had an example of a slow step being in the middle of the reaction? im trying to find that vid and i cant find it did you delete it? in that vid you showed us why the overall order is different from whats in the slow/fast steps, it was rlly helpful, on this one u gloss over it like in 13:18.. why is NO2 not raised to the 2nd power? :(

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    • @kxkxsxi6305
      @kxkxsxi6305 3 роки тому

      NO2 isn't raised to the second power because it depends on the slow step of the reaction. Usually at this level they give you all the information about the system in the question . Rate determining step = first slow step

  • @christiatannous2877
    @christiatannous2877 3 роки тому +8

    shouldn't [NO2] in the overall rate be [NO2]^2 ? since it has 2 NO2 in the equation?

    • @teacherdanz3794
      @teacherdanz3794 3 роки тому +6

      The slow step in elementary reaction is considered to be the rate determining step. It is always the slow step for the basis of overall rxn. The reason why we only have [NO2] in the overall.

    • @christiatannous2877
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  • @fearnot02
    @fearnot02 8 місяців тому +1

    anyone know why the H2O2 is in the first order for overall reaction and not 2 ? confuse a bit

    • @aminapatel
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  • @AD-wg8ik
    @AD-wg8ik 3 роки тому +7

    18:03 this contradicts Khan Academy. They included catalysts in the overall rate law

    • @shimshonbalakhani5446
      @shimshonbalakhani5446 3 роки тому

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    • @jailen.e
      @jailen.e 3 роки тому +3

      @@shimshonbalakhani5446 so would the overall rate law be rate=k[H202][I^-]

    • @mohanned4279
      @mohanned4279 2 роки тому

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  • @diablopm.1
    @diablopm.1 Рік тому +1

    in the overall reaction, why didnt you raise the rate overall for NO2 to the power 2? maybe i missed out on something

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  • @flyorwalk1743
    @flyorwalk1743 3 роки тому +10

    Wait at the end....why the rate equation doesn't become "rate=k [H2O2]^2" but only to the power of 1??

    • @taongakasanda9487
      @taongakasanda9487 3 роки тому

      Yes I have also noticed, because the coefecient of the overall reaction is #2

    • @quyumkehinde2683
      @quyumkehinde2683 3 роки тому +1

      I think it’s simply because we’re to consider the slow reaction, and not the overall equation.

    • @aadygoel4837
      @aadygoel4837 3 роки тому

      @@quyumkehinde2683 on the contrary we are only supposed to see the slow reaction . I feel you meant slow but typed fast .

    • @quyumkehinde2683
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    • @wajdy2620
      @wajdy2620 3 роки тому

      @@quyumkehinde2683 but that is the overall reaction?

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    • @kxkxsxi6305
      @kxkxsxi6305 3 роки тому

      Hey he said the first reaction they give you is usually the slow step unless they specify otherwise. At A- level dont bother learning the actually systems they will tell you a you need to know in the question

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  • @colbyswayze149
    @colbyswayze149 Місяць тому

    at 12:47 why is NO2 not raised to the power of 2 in the rate law?

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  • @kagamer21
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    Hey, I think your rate law at 13:19 is off. Aren't there 2 NO2's?

    • @MarkSmith-vo1vn
      @MarkSmith-vo1vn 3 роки тому +4

      No, he said that the reaction is dependent on the slow step, therefore since the slow step had a order of 1, the overall reaction has to be 1.

    • @kagamer21
      @kagamer21 3 роки тому

      @@MarkSmith-vo1vn Thanks a million friend!

  • @aleenmohammad1313
    @aleenmohammad1313 2 роки тому

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  • @nazlifa7788
    @nazlifa7788 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you ! :)

  • @kaleabyohannes7909
    @kaleabyohannes7909 3 роки тому +1

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  • @althaz8623
    @althaz8623 3 роки тому

    Thank you!

  • @MilesFS-bt1cy
    @MilesFS-bt1cy 3 роки тому +2

    Euclidean Algorithm please!!

  • @carpediem2789
    @carpediem2789 3 роки тому +1

    Should the orders be experimentally determined and not by the coefficients? This is what I’ve learned in rate law. Are we just assuming that the coefficients are the order or reaction? But may show a different order in an experiment?
    Thanks

    • @elijah4145
      @elijah4145 3 роки тому

      I believe in elementary reactions, the coefficients correspond to the order, although they are normally determined experimentally

  • @munaawol6722
    @munaawol6722 3 роки тому

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  • @aylatyy4385
    @aylatyy4385 3 роки тому

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  • @vjosaveselaj3788
    @vjosaveselaj3788 3 роки тому

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  • @ofosuaanyarko6153
    @ofosuaanyarko6153 2 роки тому +1

    Please, why is the overall rate of reaction for the second question, first order?
    H2O2 has 2 Infront of it in the overall reaction.
    Please explain further, I don't get it.