The Dennis Smith Jr. and Luka Doncic Dilemma in Dallas
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- Опубліковано 21 січ 2019
- As of this video, Dennis Smith Jr. has been out for the last couple weeks. According to some reports, there's been some tension between him and Rick Carlisle regarding his role in the offense and how he fits in next to Luka. It seems like those issues have went away though, but would it be better for the Mavs to trade Dennis for someone who's a better fit?
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Crazy what a difference a year makes.
2018 = Dennis Smith Jr is the future of the Mavs.
2019 = THIS IS DONCIC'S TEAM NOW!
To be fair Luka is way better then him
No wonder the Mavs will stay a garbage franchise.
No it is doncic and dsjs team
@@gabrieledward7784 Um because he's a fake rookie
@@sportschool3537 LeBron the perfect blend of both and plus he maintains great athletic abilities through working out intensely
All I know is that Luka better stay at point guard. They can experiment with Smith Jr at SG or trade him, but Point Luka is a real beast
Yall sound stupid
@dustin barlow that ain't the real Dion...
@dustin barlow
Bro im just a high schooler. Dion is a GOAT though
Luka is not no fucking point guard. The fuck?
@@blackiechan6078 his playmaking and size makes him a killler at point
Dennis Smith Jr has improved his efficiency and has turned into a good shooter, he is not a good playmaker but when you have Doncic he doesn’t have to be. Obviously both Smith Jr and Doncic have to get better playing off ball but it could work. Smith Jr is going to be a really good player and the Mavericks just have to be patient with him.
Paul and Harden who have similar playstyle can play together. I think they should keep DSJ
dustin barlow that’s exactly what smith SHOULDNT do. smith is an explosive guard who needs the ball. mavs are just gonna ruin another young players future and fun him off ball? no from me. trade him.
Seb I think they should play in motion offense with a lot of handoffs and off ball screens looking for the open shot or going to the rim. Both of them should just constantly move off ball and they should be good together.
If DSJ is running pick and roll Luka should be in the closer corner if help defense comes he just kicks out to him.
If Luka is running pick and roll DSJ should be on the opposite side waiting to cut and get alley or shooting a corner three. Both of them have to shot more open jumpers.
However its too early they have played only around 40 games together. Only time will tell. I see some Wade and Lebron in them as a duo. Although Lebron is miles ahead in athleticism but Luka is better shooter.
@dustin barlow No, you're wrong... DSJ needs to play off the ball and use his great speed for good cuts to the basket and he needs to learn how to play off the ball using off ball screens... remember "RIP" Hamilton? Something like that... Hamilton was a mediocre 3pt shooter but from mid range and in he was deadly because he had learned the UCon method of off the ball SG... DSJ could be great that way... not many guys can keep up with his speed... if Carlisle can set some screens down low for him to run past them he could be very good... and he also needs to learn how to be more elusive... add some pump fakes and dribble feints to his game...
DSJ could be great at EVERY SINGLE ONE of those things... but he needs to adapt and try to get better... he's not a great PnR PG anyway... so why not try to become a great SG? He has the tools... all he needs to do now is listen to the people in his team and not his agent that has never dribbled a ball in his life...
@@nikolatesic1786 That's exactly what Carlisle tries to do... the Mavs do A LOT of handoffs... maybe more than any other team... it's their most used go to move.... but when things get tough he goes to Luka's PnR game because he knows how good Luka is at it...
DSJ listens to his agent more than his coach... that's the real problem... and when your coach is a Hall of Fame level coach you should shut up and listen to him instead of some money hungry agent that only cares of you get a big contract for quick short term money... the agent doesn't give a fuck if DSJ wins a ring or anything... all he wants is max money for his payday...
To be honest the reason the Mavs have been struggling so much lately is because JJ Barea tore his achillies losing them their best bench player.
Harrison Alexander Stop it.
@@whatssogoodaboutindy6696 jj beara is actually really good man
Harrison Alexander oh shit hes injured? Thats why i havent seen him in games
Jeremy Birk jj barea is by far our best bench player
B C Oh, you mean the one game that DSJ played in since coming back?
Bron said "he should be a Knick"
Well, you got what you wished for Bron lmao
Downside is that they could've gotten him during draft night so they would have not traded porzingis; they would have both porzingis and smith jr together. tbh it looks ridiculous now
Tobias Wilson no they wouldn’t. Porzingis demanded a trade, they didn’t get rid of him for no reason
This video didn’t age well
Here we have a rookie and a sophomore player struggling to play alongside each other while golden state plays with 5 all stars with no problems. I think its just a matter of pride tbh
It's not that simple, everyone has a role on the warriors and doesn't play outside the role, they are also more established players so they don't play for stats and only care about winning, with young players on the other hand, they want to prove that they can be the man and don't always put the team first( i think that this is also one of bostons main problems)
The playstyle of most of the players on the warriors complement each other very well, they have had the most effective system in the NBA, and with so much garnered from their stars everyone else can thrive because there isn't much a single team defense can do to guard them. They are in a good situation, and no one on that team has players that go against their system. DSJ and Luka's playstyle's are very similar because they need the ball in their to be at third best, it's nothing wrong about that but they gotta get it together. So please don't not compare them or anyone to Golden State.
more so than pride It's a matter of time. KD and Westbrook couldn't play together but Westbrook now understands how to play with George. He had to mature
Golden States revolve around the Big 3 of Steph and Klay and Draymond
No matter what big star comes in they are the foundation of the team (not to mention they won a champ before KD came in) so people know their place
Many PG coming out of the NCAA still need polishing in running the game etc it's just tough for DSJ that while he is still under development lol and behold a player who has played four years of pro ball under his belt already takes the ball off him
Hope they work sth out together
Deyan T. Oh. So pride ?
Dennis should make this work. Luca is a better player than he is at this stage, but he could show that he will adapt in any situation and show he doesn't mind being the "Robin" in a duo. He shouldn't do it for Dallas, as they were willing to just let him go, but more for his overall value. He'll be second fiddle wherever he ends up (except maybe Orlando) so development should be the focus... he doesn't have to be the man there so it's the perfect time. Ego is a championship killer.
@dustin barlow Nah, maybe teams like Cleveland would also be a good fit as they're solely dedicated to development of through the draft and 2nd/3rd year players. Orlando has no direction, and Miami is going to need the services of a slasher sooner than later when Wade retires. Depending on how their draft goes Dennis could be perfect for them. He has options, plus China isn't some kind of D league, they're paying players big bucks to go there so don't play them trash now.
Correct option MR.Bradly i think though.. from philippines.. GO Mavs.. good Move!
@dustin barlow
God your delusional. Best pg in the game? The hell you on?
@dustin barlow
Except he's still not winning. He can play great all he wants give Curry the Mavs and he'd do great there too. Give Kyrie the Mavs and he'd do great there too. Give Luca the warriors and while he'd do great, he wouldn't be as good as Curry and that's just obvious. How could Luca compete with Curry carrying the Warrior's early slump this season? You think Luca would've put up 30ppgs early this season with 50-50-90 shooting until Curry got his injury? You think Curry wouldn't be great being on the Mavs. Let me remind you how great these warriors were before Steph. You have to literally be delusional to call Luca best pg in the league. Westbrook is like 23% from 3 this season and his jumpshot is wack right now and I'd still say he's better than Luca.
@Shawn Kemp Dennis "pouts and moaps" yet Luka is the one crying and kicking the ball in the air when it doesnt go his way.
I somehow want to believe that they can work together. They could be an awesome duo.
True the last time they had a top 10 draft pick was 1998 however they basically drafted Devin Harris 5th overall in a pre agreed upon trade with the Wizards.
It’s the young Jason Kidd mavericks all over again
Lol Jason Kidd's playstyle is different than this guy and his playstyle adapts to any team with a better chance of helping teams.
"Since Dennis Smith has been injured, Luka has had more bad games." before his last 2 games, Luka scored 25 or more in 5 straight games.
The Knicks reportedly will receive Dennis Smith Jr., DeAndre Jordan, Wesley Matthews and future first-round draft compensation from the Mavericks. Courtney Lee, Tim Hardaway Jr. and Trey Burke would head to Dallas as the Knicks look to create cap space for free agency this summer.
I love how Andy mastered the art of barely reaching the 10 minute mark for the money.
it's amazing how analytics can play out, the stat you used in this video is actually the reference they used to get rid of those players. Barnes, Mathews, DSJ, etc
You just got a new subscription just because your prediction keep it going ✊🏾
Mavs could run a deadly Doncic Smith 2 man play
@dustin barlow i think mavs should just give DSJ some time to adjust with luka. Both of them are good kids
@Lakers fan CP3 changed his offball game - he's shooting more 3s per game than ever and raised his 3pt percentage. I've even seen him do this nice play where he's on point but then hands the ball to Harden and screens Harden's man.
So yea, with good 3pt shooting, high basketball IQ, a willingness to assist each other, and playing good defense on the other end, you make it work. Wade fits that mold too (although you have to substitute 3pt with high strength in the other areas - we are talking about the greatest SG blocker of all time) . Unfortunately, DSJ is lacking in these areas, and it's not something you can fix overnight.
As for Durant/Curry, Durant has always been a forward, sort of like how Jordan played where he doesn't usually bring the ball up. Instead, he's looking to get into an advantageous scoring position, for example a good post-up position.
@dustin barlow remember cp3 and harden. I know 1 year is a very long time.
@dustin barlow doesnt change the fact that he still almost matches hardens usage rate last year while being more efficient. The only problem here is that dsj will never develop the IQ on how to play with another ball dominant player. Another good example is kyrie and LBJ.
dustin barlow So what if Luka only had one shot in the 1st half? Mavericks had the lead at half time and went on to win the game yet Luka was over there pouting on the bench and ripping his jersey. Mavericks couldn't win any games while dsj was out and Luka running the show. He comes back, and low and behold they win a game..
Both Luka and Dennis are young and they have what is needed to be stars.
Big fan Andy. Could you do a video on how amazing the first round was in the 2014 season? Amazing matchups, multiple game 7s, game winners etc that’ll be great!
Great video. I swear on god that today is my birthday please do a prediction video or a video on Dirk Nowitzki's prime
This is what I wanna know for quite sometimes. Thanks for yet another great video Andy.
IMO I'd love to see how DSJ and Luka will panned out together but I agree that if the offer is good enough they should trade DSJ.
I’m in class but I have to watch your videos right away
1:09 I just noticed the fact that J Cole went to DSJ's game in College
Your stuff really is good Andy.
Good to see a current story
Dennis Smith and Doncic kind of remind me of Ricky Davis and Rookie LeBron. Ricky Davis was a great player with the Cavs, although he was very inefficient and wasn’t a good fit alongside LeBron. Also LeBrons rookie year was clearly better than the season Ricky Davis had that year, and shortly after, they moved on from Ricky Davis, even though he was a 20 PPG scorer in his prime.
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Love this channel
It sucks for me cuz I’m a mavs fan but I’m only 16 so I wasn’t even aware of anything when we won so I never really expierenced dirks greatness and the mavs have sucked since 2011 so when DSJ was lit last year I bought his jersey and now they gon trade him like I have money to buy a Luka jersey💀💀💀😭😭😭
I feel you man. I am a sixers fan and when Jahlil Okafor had a good rookie season, I bought his jersey, but he fell off and got traded. I don’t have enough money to buy a Joel Embiid jersey. 😂😂😂
I’ve been a mavs fan for close to 40 years. If you think they’ve sucked since 2011, be thankful you weren’t around to see them in the 90’s.
@@munchingchamak7134 Wolves fan here. Bought Wiggins' jersey after his sophomore season lol. Don't have enough to buy a Towns/Rose jersey RIP
Damn that man Durk was a monster
They didn't suck since 2011. They won The Finals in 2011. You really are a kid.
Hi andy what do you think about Gallinari? This season he's doing great i think, he gas an interesting careeer i think maybe a little underrated let me know your thoughts thank you :)
U know, always here Andy, always here. Just saying
You ever heard of Wilson, he literally makes me cringe. Andy hoops and mike k are the best
I think Mavs found three gems in Luka,DSJ and Jalen, but its up to the organization and those players, how they’ll make it work..if they do, Dallas could make a lot of noise in the playoffs.
I believe it’s dennis’ agents trying to create tension so that he can maximize money/popularity on another team.
Creating tension does not equate into maximizing money
@@wesleyantrim6648 I agree, NBA is not boxing lol
Well, that didn't work out lol. With Dallas, he was a promising, young and athletic point guard that appeared to have a long nba career in front of him. He wanted out, got traded to the Knicks and now appears to be on his way out of the league. Be careful what you wish for.
Y’all remember when BBALLBREAKDOWN was saying Milo Teodosic was the best PG in the NBA already and was gonna be way better than any Euro player ever? 😂😂 What even happened to that dude. Doncic literally made everyone forget about him!
Teodosic was labeled as the best PG outside the NBA before playing for the clippers. And milos is kinda old to be compared with luka
His style of play is just not very well suited to the NBA. He's a Jokić type playmaker when he has the ball, but when he doesn't, he's borderline useless. In Euroleague, that isn't the issue, as point guards handle like 85% of ball handling duty, but in NBA, that responsibility is shared, reducing Teodosić's overall impact. Also, the guy is older player, he grew up with "old school", he loves mid range and floaters, and that's not something coaches want in modern day and age.
he's a great playmaker but he's too unathletic and doc used him mostly as a spot up shooter rather than a primary ball handler, on defense he's terrible and he's over 30
Teodosic only accepted to go into the NBA for money, he really doesn't seems to care
@@MrMattonico Not really, he was offered twice as much money in CSKA Moscow. He just wanted to try himself out in the NBA
Andy .... making a lotta assumptions in this video are there quotes from Dennis to support his frustrations?
Damn NBA Authority ! cheers Andy
Push the narrative to get these 2 bak together
That’s crazyyyyyy I’m watching this video today on January 31st and I just got a notification on nba twitter and the mavs traded DSJ and deandre Jordan for porzingis and more 😂😂🤣🤣
It’s simple trade barns problem solved. Idk why this is even a topic they both are obviously young and can get better playing together with time. I just feel like the organization is impatient and want to contend faster than they really can. Maybe it’s the ambition of mark cuban? Either way it’s simple to just make dsj the secondary ball handler.
I love that jazz song in start of video
After watching the Mavs vs Pistons where Smith scored 19 and Luka 32, i think it is best that Smith and Luka continue playing together.
They should try and incorporate both at least
Andy and dom got the some of the best videos out here
Rafiq Mangi I like Andy better. He’s much more objective
How Long Can They Keep The Same Coach and have him have issues with Point Guards (Deron Williams Rajon Rondo Darren Collinson and Dennis Smith Jr) because Rick always wants to call the plays
KingKGP15 IKR he’s been coaching the Mavs since 2008
He’s had issues With mark Jackson and Reggie Miller too
@@hughesmovesgaming8748 because they can expect Dennis Smith Jr to get better as a Point Guard if they have a Coach who dosen't let the Point guard Actually run the Offense. Because as a Point Guard you're have to read and be in situations like know/reading the Offense and defense
What about Jason Kidd, JJ Barrea, Devin Harris and now Luka Doncic? Are those PG have problems with Carlisle? Nope.
So the problem isnt on him. U're too close minded to even think that way.
@@raditoprakoso6334 I'm not saying it's mainly his fault I just saying that he has a history of having issues with Players Rajon Rondo,Darren Collinson,Deron Williams,Dennis Smith Jr,Reggie Miller,Mark Jackson OJ Mayo and Jason Kidd but he has a history of getting the best of his Players like Monta Ellis,JJ Barea and Devin Harris
mavs should be patient on them they could be a killer combo if they put the right player around them.. this year is not about winning games so coaching should figure out how to fix it..
DSJ situation somehow reminds me of Larry Hughes during his Sixers days with Iverson.
Here are my thoughts.
1) Mavs are trying to hide him while further developing him alongside the young Antetokounmpo and unleash them together next season.
2) DSJ's agency won't perhaps allow him to play in G League like what Lakers is doing with their young talents (Clarkson before and Isaac Binga now), which is somehow in line with...
3) Carlisle trying to be nice with that statement, where in truth is notorious for heavily playing only pro veterans.
Luka may be clutch, but there are still plenty of opportunities in developing his shot selection and assist:TO ratio.
I don't see why they can't play together. I mean, they just need more time to adjusting into each other play style. Mavs has to keep DSJ and figure a way out to make that duo work well
The problem with other nba team is the pressure of immediate results, if you dont have that you'll be fired if your a GM or a coach but if your a player you'll be traded immediately thats why San Antonio Spurs have the best development program for players or even coaches. They are patient and with kawhi situation thats just one in wrinkle in a decade of dominance.
Instead of looking up at this issue, they Must consider giving dirk more minutes as we all know this may be his last season.
Crazy thing is they mesh well on the court but they are friends off the court and hang out all the time
Luca and dsj is like generic harden cp3 combo. They just need to adjust to esch other and trade for off ball player. Maybe letting barnes and wes could improve their system.
DSJ is now a Knick! You called it bro 🤯
I didn't think I was dyslexic but every time I keep read Dennis Smith Jr as JR Smith.
This situation reminds me of Derrick Rose & Jimmy Butler. It was Rose's team for a long time until he got injured then it became Jimmy's team. No room for both.
Dennis Smith Jr is a combo-guard, him and Luka supposed to be a dynamic duo, but Dennis Smith Jr ego took control of him. Damn G Dennis tripped out on this 1 G
Dennis is overrated he's a freakish athlete with his hops but that's it
He's more than that. He creates his own shot as well as for others. His handles are good enough for him to get any shot he wants. Please don't just look at his dunking highlights.
@@14thabz 😂😂😂 nah he's just athletic that's it
Yep all athletic guards are being obsolete in this game
you just describe 90% of the rookies in the nba, just athletes with no skill to create actual plays
Carlisle's system is based heavily with the scheme of having 2 playmakers running the offense. DSJ and Luka mesh extremely well, but when a 3rd guy like Matthews or Barnes starts to hold the ball a lot, their scheme starts to buckle. I believe the Dallas media itself turned on DSJ with trade talks, because of Luka's dominance and their belief that guys like Barnes and Matthews dont hold much trade value in a scenario where the Mavs do try to shop for another established all star.
This is gonna turn into another Dirk and Steve Nash situation mark my words.
Yea Luka is Nash and KP is Dirk
I hope the Mavs and Dennis Smith Jr. get all this figured out
I would give it a little more tome atleast a year or 2 them make adjustments for there.
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I think dsj agent thinks if he's plays secondary or 6th man there will be less money in the future. So he told him to stay away and force the Mavs to trade him but we love Dennis and I hope be stays here for his entire career.
Mavs should try Dennis at SG. He's really explosive, and should be able to play off ball. Both are very young and still have huge potentials, but they also come with uncertainty. Injuries can be disastrous so it's better to keep depth for a team. There's still no way for Mavs to beat the Golden State or OKC so why not let the young duos turn more potential into assets?
Can you post more often? Lol
DSJ is like Westbrook, and Luka is like Harden. Dallas would regret trading DSJ unless it was for someone that could slot in as a starter or be a good backup PG plus draft picks.
I just love that melancholic trump sound in the back...
Does anyone know name of that song ?
On the cool side by kevin macleod
it's as melancholic as DSJ play this season hahahahaha :-)
As a mavs fan, I want them to wait but it would diminish his growth. It's hard to watch :(
As a Sixers to stay at number 3 and draft DSJ two years ago but we took markelle fultz.
I think he would be a great 6 man on that team. He would dominate the second unit
In 2019 DSJ is with the knicks
@andyhoops what happen to reggie jackson?
I love the NBA but American sports can be a bit weird...how about the novel idea of Luka and Dennis playing and growing together? After all by all accounts they are both high character young men
So do they go to high school in his country? Because playing pro ball at 13 is hard to believe when I was in 8th grade at 13.
He’s been hanging out with Kawhi Leonard’s uncle.
Problem is Dennis wants the ball in his hands so he can ISO dribble dribble, he doesnt create for anyone or himself, Dennis is great going to the rim. Luka needs ball in his hands if Dennis cant get over that than he needs to be traded. Luka is a HOF talent player.
If Mavs actually get some talent, Luka would probably be the assist boy..
@B Z Don't talk nonsense!
@B Z I do not see just one side, like you do. I like and support Denis, but do not talk stupidity, that they won because of Denis. This is the greatest nonsense.
@B Z Look, I'm also a Mavericks fan. But you are blind, and you do not see the essence.That's all!
@B Z You can get hurt quickly! Children, go your way and prefer to play with a video game. Calm down, kid!
Dennis has been THE GUY since 7th grade. It would be a lil jolting for anyone to all of a sudden become second fiddle. Just give him time to adjust and I think he’ll be fine. But the talent is undeniable
But isn't mav still no where near the playoff and on rebuilding? Then why be in such a hurry? Can't they experiment with Luka and Dennis Smith Jr at the same time? Both DSJ and Luka are still developing?
Finally the Mavs are getting media attention and coverage!!!
I think they're already a good one two hit. Let them grow with DJ and the surrounding cast. Him and doncic at 1-2 or 1-4 is a great great line up with DeAndre
It depends a 100% who can they get for dsj
wes matthews and harrison barnes chucking 15-18 shots a night while only converting 3 or 4 of them is a bigger problem tbf
Dennis Smith Jr will improve a lot in the following years, Jalen Brunson is another good asset for the Mavs
Lbj likes DSJ a lot....
KCP needs a starting role..
Mavs could use KCP shooting and will blend with Luka.
This is an interesting case for Mavs-Lakers as trade deadline approach soon
I remember an Interview where DSJ said LuCa was his rookie.
i cant help wondering, is skill set overlap really a core-problem? i mean look at rockets. they did figure a way out, right? so maybe its "how they could work together?" before"if they could work together" i think. cause after all they are both very talented young player.
DSJ looks like a JV player next to Luka. He is good defensively though so if they trade him they better get some good player back that can improve the team like a good 3 and D guy!
They have to trade the guy and they will, the question is for what?first round pick, solid roleplayer/s or young prospect?
Whatever happens, I hope DSJ can develop into an all star.
Last time Mavs has a dual turned out one of them heading to Phoneix and a championship drought for a decade
they are probably not trading him as it seems that they haven't received a good offer for him.
MAVS gave up on DSJ too early.
The Mav's aren't contending right now, so why would they trade him? Wait a little bit for him to develop, and if they can't play together, trade GSJ for a huge haul.
They should keep him. DSJR looks similar to Llull the shooting guard that play real madrid with Luka. Simply put, Llull is older, more experience, so the fit was easier, but DSJR could be a very good fit with Luka. they just need time to develop!
Llull is more like Luka. Can run PnR, spot-up, pass, go 1v1 after swap. DSJ is ballhog, can't really spot up, can't pass consistently. He's a good, explosive cutter and volume off the dribble Shooter. Llull and Luka, understand the game, the pace, the sets and adjust, they have high basketball IQ. Hardly someone could say that for DSJ...
Llull is over 30 now, when he first came to real madrid, the biggest deal with him was his low iq, and that he made bad passes. He rush over plays and made bad decisions. It is a normal thing with young point guards. Dsjr is explosive, a good shooter (still improving), has a very high motor, and when he is motivated he is a good defender. He looks pretty much as young Llull. Point guards take time to develop, can't compare a guy of 20 years with one over 30. Only a guy as special as luka can compare with players way over his age.
Just to add to the comparison. Both are more like traditional shooting guards too small to play that position that ended up playing shooting guard. What some people call combo guards.
As of right now the Mavericks are 13th in the West... they realistically can’t afford to lose either which makes this debate redundant.
As a Mavs fan I’ll be furious If DSJ gets traded. Watch if he gets traded he’s going to win an mvp next season
dustin barlow I love Luka but hell no 😂. Dearon Fox is currently just as good or better than Luka. DSJ could definetly get there with a higher usage rate. I think Luka has a much higher ceiling but c’mon as it stands right now you re overestimating
@@alfredoizg789 DeAaron Fox is slept on just cause he's on the Kings
Alfredo Izg DSJ would have a hard time becoming an all star at this point let alone an MVP lol
He's athletic, a good player, but he does look awkward on the floor. He just doesn't look like an NBA player. Not to be confused with individual talent, of course. Players like Kyrie Irving is rare. At one point or another, you just need to calibrate your game to the NBA. It isn't high school or college ball.
mavs need to play a bit more defense especially on the 3 point line
Dennis is cool. I like his play. Could be an all star. Had a decent rookie season and he seems like he is improving efficiency. But maybe Mavs need more versatile player to complement Luka. But, in other young team, like, maybe Knicks, Dennis could become a leader. He is pretty ball dominant. Not really a ball hog but likes to have ball in his hands.
Next video on kevin love's time with wolves?
mikica stanic Yes!
That was nice