Are you planning to watch those Wrist Rockets and Execute Order 66? Let me know in the comments below! I'm tempted to maybe stream the game in the future! Also, if you want to buy the Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection, you can buy it here! - store.steampowered.com/app/2446550/STAR_WARS_Battlefront_Classic_Collection/
For us Xbox users. It's such a mystery how unoptimized the file sizes are. It's 57GB when the original back compat games are 7GB combined which already ran at 4K60.
I used to love chilling on BF1. I loved storming that beach, playing hoth and the jet pqck was fun af. It was fun but it was very limited aside from the missions with flying vehicles as mentioned in the vid. Those were fun albiet annoying taking you out from the air lol. Second one didn't feel good it just had a bit more content. I never liked heroes being a major mechanic.
SWBF1 has prettier skyboxes, less particle occlusion, more open maps. The gunplay is also different from the sequel; sometimes I just don't care for the award weapons and bonuses of SWBF2. I think Battlefront II's maps are more closed off to mitigate the short draw distance.
Same with the victory theme and the objective complete sound. The victory theme is very low in pitch and the new objective completed sound is very different from the iconic original sound. The overall font of the text in the game is a little off too.
🤢🤮😭They just can’t get nothing right,the nostalgia is there strongest card,it helps the terrible story and character writing and to f that up is a no no
@@BunnySlopeStation-House “terrible story and character writing”? We’re talking about Battlefront 2 (2005) right? That story only has one real character and they’re unnamed bruh 😭
I always believed that the first Battlefront still had some charm despite the second improving a lot. I will personally being trying to play both online.
the original semms more balanced, no jedis, also is a slower game u run more slow and for some reason this and other details it give more immersion, and scale, i remember that
Thanks for raising awareness. My experience on PS5 is horrendous. 20 year old game and it’s a jittery, buggy mess and 90% of the time the server list doesn’t even refresh. The purpose of this collection is multiplayer and that’s the worst part of the game right now.
The thing that hurts me is just the fonts. So much charm is missing and it makes it look like a fan made amateurish concept piece. I hope they add the og fonts back. And the BF1 loading sounds, they NEED to add the og sounds back
Agreed, I see exactly what you mean, the fonts, and even looking at the lighting on some maps just looks awful.... it's why I will not buy this game on steam only keep to switch for now as that's where I've always dreamed of playing these games.
It wouldnt suprise me if there was licensing issues depending on the font, granted i doubt they would see anyform of backlash for using the fonts regardless.
@@jasperfox6821 perfomance is worse, AI upscaled textures aren't even noticable, it's the completely opposite, graphics are ruined, HUD is displaced for no reason and looks ugly, new font is awful, sounds are awful, multiplayer is laggy(I live in eastern europe but even other people had this problem judging by negative reviews on steam), many bugs and glitches from original games are left unfixed, cut content isn't even fully back, because there is no Bespin Platforms map. This game is a scam.
@@why3994 that's obvious. But with multiplayer, both games and texture updates you'd expect a small price increase. Even £20 some may say is too much. £28.99 is ridiculous, but people bought it for nostalgia.
@@inertiaarch3798 I would love to be the guy that designs the multiplayer to a battlefront 3, no starcards or one weapon only or battle points for heroes and vehicles unless it’s for reinforcement classes. Basically Battlefield but Star Wars.
Don’t forget the neutral factions, going prone, far more open and wide maps if that’s your thing, and each individual class for each faction had a lot more small unique quirks about them
@@inertiaarch3798dude, BF2 literally feels the saga + the Clone Wars Multimedia Project and the 2nd actually has maps from the movies. Why are you BF1 fanboys so toxic and hateful?
I’m really looking forward to this game. Edit: After watching the full review, damn it really does seem like Asyper put in the bare minimum amount of work into this game. That’s really disappointing. Let’s just hope that they can fix the multiplayer issues asap.
Lol bruh the MP is gonna be dead in like a month. If you've never played the og MP, it was broken AFFFFF. I'm sure they didn't go into balancing things lol.
why on earth would you play this game when you can play the star wars battlefront 2 remake from 2017 thats 10x better. Only reason you would wanna buy this is for nostalgic reasons. I'll stick to the remake thanks
Say whatever you want about these games - the *ABSOLUTE BEST THING ABOUT THESE GAMES* is the *TOTAL ABSENCE* of *_ANY_* "di$ney war$" *_GARBAGE_* in them. Now *_THIS_* is STAR WARS... UPDATE: Yeah, that still doesn't excuse launching 2 broken games with only 3 servers, crashes, lagging, other issues and a $35 price tag...
Not gonna lie, when they announced that battlefront 2 was going to have all ground levels feature hero assault, I figured that at the very least, they would have added a sprint function to the first game.
The maps are balanced without sprinting taken into account. If they put sprint into BF 1, they would all play like garbage, especially in regards to pacing, but also cover positions would be FAR too generous.
You will probably find that the bloated GB and quieter sound is because they have used uncompressed audio for a higher audio quality however that means the audio will generally be quieter and take up a lot more space
I'm so conflicted about Aspyr. On one hand, I love how much they love the KOTOR and the Star Wars brand in general-- on the other, they seem to have the worst luck in the world and a lot of their output (and lack of) shows it.
I really love Battlefront 1 & 2 classics and still play them on steam. I pre-ordered this classic collection for the switch just so I could play while traveling to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu competitions. Also you can't beat playing hero assault on every map! So its worth buying for me, and it will show how good aspyr really are at handling older games.
Maybe this is already somewhat known, but the reason why the original BF2 still has PC multiplayer is because an update from years ago restored the servers after GameSpy died. Considering I've played the OG versions of both games for almost 2 decades now, I feel like I've already seen the best of them. I'm thrilled that both games got a remaster for new and old fans, but for me, the lack of mod support kills this version even more than crossplay I think. OG BF2 mod support is so expansive and great that it makes it tough for me to get excited for something like this. Not to mention all the bugs mentioned in the video. Also, 60 GB install? That seems to happen a lot these days and I hate that.
I think the reception of this collection will really depend on the platform. On PC, it seems not worth it and cheap. On every other console, it feels like a really great release because a lot of people haven't been able to access it for a long time
@@basdegroot3615 That's true, but many people can't be bothered to do so with a piece of technology they might not use very often. I think there's a lot to be said about the convenience of having it in an instant on the Switch or PS5 that people are likely to be using far more often.
@@basdegroot3615yes that’s basically what he already said, pc users don’t need to buy this but most console players don’t have an easy way to play bf2 so it’s more useful for them
100% agree. Granted, I bought it for PC for the splitscreen. But outside of that, it's really not worth it. The Remaster Project and Shader Patch mods already look 1000% better than any AI upscaling. There are already mods to restore the Xbox content and add hero assault to every map. Literally no real reason to buy this on PC unless you want the splitscreen. All the mods are still going to be for the classic game anyway! Especially now that so many mod authors have moved on and won't be updating their mods for the classic collection.
@@-CrimsoN-online is kinda janky and laggy in the og tho, that the only thing I hope they fixed and reworked for the collection. If not, its not worth a single dime for pc tbh
While it is disappointing that Aspyr have only done minimal improvements over the original version I think people are missing the point of this collection: it gives people who only own the latest generation of consoles the chance to play these legendary games. Not everyone has a PC and can play the original games and even less people have a PS2 at home nowadays. Nevertheless the price is a bit exaggerated, without sale it costs 35€ which is equivalent to over 38$, so almost 40$ for a port with slightly better textures.
its been fully playable on xbox one (x,s) and series (s,x) for years. you can buy each games for a couple of bucks and visually this looks exactly the same but costs 3x the price.
@@mechayamcha I don't have an xbox, nor would I want one. I already have a ps5, pc, and a steam deck so for me to have native controller support on pc is better for me and I'll gladly pay the price they want just to enjoy it on the go on my steam deck.
The answers no, need for 18min of it. Eventually if they show the respect to the Battlefront community, people like me who streamed high quality streams, got others to buy it, the enthusiasm we showed, our sadness when BF2 2017 was over with no mention of BF3, talked with developers, made players excited to even play one weekends worth after they spent 60 usd....then, maybe. This was just about the last straw, there's no excuses for what this launch felt like.
The first one for me was more fun. Seeing the heroes running around being as strong as a hero should be and the yellow team being able to fight back and win. If they added AI heroes and the yellow teams into the 2nd I would never look back.
That’s really what they ought to have done is just splice the campaigns together, add the little bit of cut content from BF1 into 2, and just have it be a single game. They’re similar enough that I don’t see why they couldn’t have
It's really depressing and bizarre now that we went from indie developers/studios making better games and content than most AAA studios to modders making games much better with more content than an actual studio developing or upgrading one.
If someone wants to play BF1 or BF2 Pandemic, just bought them on pc on steam. Very low computers can run both of them, with multiple mods/steam workshop :)
I really hope they fix the issues with online. Growing up, I only ever played Split screen. So I am really excited to try playing games full of actual players.
In my opinion (I have both of the original Xbox releases & unfortunately this re-release by Aspyr) the original versions (by Lucasarts, which are also made backwards compatible with the Xbox One & Series X/S) are still far superior in all regards IMO (they're both cheaper, take up less file size, the graphics have already been enhanced from their original 2004 & 2005 version back in 2018, the play control is great, inverted controls are available, they have all cutscenes, they have all music, they ave all sound effects, they have all legendary rewards, hit detection works great, flight controls work great, camera options work great, they have all DLCs add ons - characters & locations, they have the 4 player couch co-op spilt-screen and no glitches, bugs or other such issues - like the Classic Collection still has to this day...the only thing it doesn't have is the online multiplayer - but since no a lot of actual people are playing at an given time anymore, what does that matter in the end? IMO)...I personally removed the Classic Collection (and got fully refunded) and kept the original Battlefront 1 & 2 (via backwards compatibility on my Xbox), which I do play quite often & still enjoy. My recommendation, get the originals (either by backwards compatibility on your consoles OR on computer via Steam). Peace ✌️.
I love battlefront 2 but personally I think the first one is better, I like the maps it has more than in the sequel. Does suck you can't use heroes in it though
I'm not surprised that the Classic Collection is subpar. I literally only bought it for the Splitscreen so me and my wife can play. The original is still better because of the mods. The Remaster Mod and Shader Patch are especially amazing looking mods and are handcrafted textures versus AI upscaling.
To be honest this will get boring really soon without mod support. Every now and then I hop on Battlefront 2 on PC and the most fun is the mod content. Vanilla has been played for years, I don't need a upscaled 60gb Xbox One Port to play it a week and then hardly ever touch it. A shame because I LOVE the original Battlefront
They took what was already available through community mods for many years, packaged up the existing work, and are charging extra instead of making this a game update for the games which are already released. Terrible behavior, though not surprising from Aspyr and Disney.
i dont know about you but back in 2004/2005 having wireless internet was rare so playing online is a completely new thing to me and i get to come back to probably to one of the best and nostalgic games of my childhood? SIGN ME UP SAILOR
@@jcgalvan26 pretty sure it stands for extra large but there is like 2-3 times the amount of units on the field at any given time. You could adjust the amount but I always set it to maximum. I always thought it would be cool to put ALL of the units on the battlefield and just have a free for all...
I just don’t understand how it’s so poorly optimized. Like all the other stuff I can see them patching later, I personally am not that upset by it, but it should NOT be 60gb.
“Significantly improved visuals” is being very generous. I’m glad they kept the gameplay & all the original modes, but there’s so much more they could’ve done to improve the graphics. That’s my only complaint.
Its nice they included Battlefront 1 , but honestly after i bought BF2 all the way back in 2005, i didnt touch the first one much. Bf2 just improved it in pretty much every way
@@michaelandreipalon359tomb raider remasters gladly didn’t let us down and its only getting better with the patches and mods coming. Hoping for a tr 4-6 remaster ( for 6 it should be a remake since it was never fully finished and hopefully they bring back all the cut content)
Very disappointing that this is the second time a Star Wars remaster got released in a borderline unacceptable state Granted, from my understanding of the Restored Content DLC, that wasn't *entirely* their fault, but it's still a huge sore spot
I was hoping you could clarify something for me as this is a huge factor whether I get the game or not. Does this mean that Galactic Conquest can be played online and with friends? Is it only for Battlefront I or II as well? 5:36 Is the campaign for either game support online CO-OP with a friend? I assume not on this one.
Great video, love the technical details. I agree that It doesn't make too much sense to have BF1 here, they should have just made the maps from that available on BF2 and left it at that, in everyway that game is an upgrade to the original. THANK YOU for calling them out for trying to act like that and the DLC was new content and calling it what it is, an upscaled port that you might not play if the servers were still open for the original. A few things I have questions about, things I decided I would have fixed when I played SWBFII to 100% on the 360 version I own on stream recently, things that should be fixed if they actually put some care into it and did more than just upscale it and open the console servers again. 1. Have they added any of the dlc content to galactic conquest or added any kind of randomization to the planets? 2. have they made the characters available through the leader bonus more random? (In the original, the character for the leader bonus in galactic conquest was locked in by the planet you are on and it felt like you only got to use one or two instead of the whole cast; for example playing as CIS you will never play as count dooku, ventress or the emperor, you will only play as maul or jango) 3. Have they made the AI smarter at all? does it still do stupid and infuriating things like attacking the same planet over and over again in galactic conquest or getting stuck and standing around having a seizure in a corner on the edge of the map somewhere? 4. Also, did they fix the map on Naboo where the AI gets stuck in that corner next to CP 3?
1. I didn't play through enough GC but I didn't see any DLC planets. 2. I think it's still context locked. (Heroes on their specific planets etc) 3. They were still pretty dumb to me so I couldn't confirm. 4. I don't think so.
As long as this Battlefront doesn't have a story that was promised to be a fascinating tale about imperial soldiers but in the end it was just another generic "becoming a Rebel" tale, I will gladly buy it 😊
@@route77productionswell the first one I don’t think was even going to have a campaign, it just kinda happened and bf2 had a year so🤷♂️🤣 but there still amazing
I will stick to the next gen version of Battlefront 2 I’m not a fan of this 360 graphic and glitchy sliding movement should’ve just gave the next gen versions another update
I’m really hopping there is 32:9 support and if there is proper split screen with it then I think the game will be worth it for me on pc. I am having doubts though that it will be executed properly. The audio delay and multiplayer frame rate is atrocious though, I’d be curious to see if there the fps is still as bad on lan.
@@basdegroot3615 Yeah I have been looking man can’t find any information about ultrawide support. I also want 4:3 support because I game on a high refresh rate crt too, I will be super surprised if 4:3 doesn’t work.
@@100StarWarsI do have a question though. On the original BF games on PC, you could bind a key to changing between 1st and 3rd person views. However the console version of BF2 does not have this. Does the remastered version have this?
Thing is these things shouldn't be patched to begin with. It shouldn't release broken at all, especially when there's a much cheaper version without these issues.
I played these games a ton back in the day, both solo and with friends. If I can convince some of them to come back to this, well let's just say: "This is where the fun begins!" Really good review! Also i love that the medical droid actually started to "heal" your character even though the grenade killed you. 5:54
@@basdegroot3615there’s always still original guys. this isn’t a remake so they can’t fine tune everything and modernize it perfectly like we would like. honestly even if they completely botched this (which doesn’t seem so just minor differences) we should still support this collection and show we care because this might bring around battlefront 3. it’s greedy ass ea they like money if the numbers on this are strong that shows battlefront 3 is just free money sitting on the table and they’ll hopefully make it more like the OG battlefront instead of the godforsaken reboot versions.
Yeah, lol. It's like they added lighting where it wasn't before, but butchered it where it should be. Cloud City looks shitty based on his video. I was excited for this, but leave it to a fucking company to fuck up small shit, when they are literally being paid to get everything right.
7:22 Hard disagree. Id rather have all classes layed out in front of me and directly click on the one i want, instead of having to 1D scroll on a list like im using a controller thus limiting myself even further.
The fact that you have to pay 30USD for a fucking RE-RELEASE is crazy, it's not even a remaster. And the worst thing is that people will buy it - it's insane how we as a gaming community are allowing to be fucked in the ass.
for 20 year old games? still too high and they're just PORTS too why excuse this?just because it's not $70 its ok ? Raise your standards people like you are why the industry is in shambles. Do Better for God's Freakin sake@@youtubeisracistx
As bad as I feel for those who got this game for multiplayer, I for one am terrible at multiplayer shooters and couldn't care less about playing multiplayer. My favorite thing to do when I played all those years ago was to buddy up with a random npc ally, protect them until they died, then go full rampage in a mourning angry killing spree... I can't wait!
@@nighthare19 Never hurts to try them though. Many people have once adamantly refused to play games like Sins of a Solar Empire and Star Control II, and ended up regretting their lateness when they changed their minds a long time later.
I'm not convinced on paying nearly double or triple the price I paid to get these classics on PC 12 years ago. Just for multiplayer. I'm going to buy this game when it's cheaper and even then I think I'll only play it for the usual single or co-op gameplay aspects not online gaming. On a side note people should check out the remaster mod for BF2 2005 because this really makes it a fresh experience.
Whenever I run the multi-player for the second game on the original, the servers seem like they're made with rubber bands, I can't fight anyone or anything without teleporting or the shots not registering correctly. You experience with lag on that server is what I experience on the current battlefront II servers for the og game, so I'm really hoping that won't be a problem for the rest of this version when it launches.
9:47 how can anyone see this and think the new version looks better? original looks way better. better lighting w/ bloom. new one just has some crappy high rez textures but no soul or aesthetic sense. some extra pixels on some textures while retaining the same poly counts just looks bad plus without the lighting it looks totally sterile with no atmosphere.
my only disappointing for this battlefront classic collection 1. could added psp spin off like elite squadron and renegade squadron into the collection 2. mod support on pc for mod community
It might be great, but I’d argue that we should all stop buying remastered games. It’s just lazy gaming companies trying to milk more money from a previous games popularity.
Thank you soooooo much!!! I have been waiting to purchase. Guess I will wait a little longer till they get rid of the issues. If they don't then I will just stick with og ps2 version from time to time not online.
For some reason, they've removed the original SWBF2 crosshair settings. I always liked disabling most of the crosshair and leaving just the small white dot. Also, I can't stand the yellow heat meter on the crosshair, I want to disable it. This has really disappointed me...
Bought this on PS5 and god, I regret it. I don't understand how they fumbled so terribly hard. This was probably my most anticipated game in a long while and its just...ass lol, due to all these issues plaguing it.
I actually think I have an explanation for the framerate being capped under 30 fps. You’ll see a lot of older games where the physics and other gameplay elements are directly tied to the frame-rate of the game, the original Skyrim is probably the most famous example, but another example is what happens when you try to play Titan Quest multiplayer on modern systems, it becomes an unmanageable lag fest on modern systems unless all players have manually gone into their graphics cards and capped the framerates at lower settings.
I actually preferred the original, and I never really got into 2 as a kid, though I’ll still go back to 1. It’s hard to describe, but the gameplay just felt better. I preferred the lack of heroes, as everyone being a normal soldier who could die easily was a big part of the appeal. And BF2 really toned down some of the classes. The droids were definitely broken in 1, but being able to launch people in are with the Super Battle Droid’s rockets was a lot of fun, for example. The maps in the original are also much better.
Are you planning to watch those Wrist Rockets and Execute Order 66? Let me know in the comments below! I'm tempted to maybe stream the game in the future! Also, if you want to buy the Star Wars: Battlefront Classic Collection, you can buy it here! - store.steampowered.com/app/2446550/STAR_WARS_Battlefront_Classic_Collection/
Did you know there’s 2 hidden attacks for kit Fisto that the game won’t tell you and I can tell everyone how to do them both
my jaw dropped when you said it was 60 GB. what on earth happened there??
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It’s 30gb on ps5
AI upscaled everything
For us Xbox users. It's such a mystery how unoptimized the file sizes are.
It's 57GB when the original back compat games are 7GB combined which already ran at 4K60.
People are saying AI upscaling but it's still absurd.
I feel attacked for hearing that really no one would be here for battlefront 1.
I used to love chilling on BF1. I loved storming that beach, playing hoth and the jet pqck was fun af. It was fun but it was very limited aside from the missions with flying vehicles as mentioned in the vid. Those were fun albiet annoying taking you out from the air lol. Second one didn't feel good it just had a bit more content. I never liked heroes being a major mechanic.
I’m playing battlefront 1 right now
SWBF1 has prettier skyboxes, less particle occlusion, more open maps. The gunplay is also different from the sequel; sometimes I just don't care for the award weapons and bonuses of SWBF2. I think Battlefront II's maps are more closed off to mitigate the short draw distance.
Cloud City in Battlefront I was way ahead of its time, by far the beast map ever made!
Man same that was my favorite one. Idk why maybe cause it was my first but cmon
the lack of crossplatform multiplayer still completely puzzles me, it would have been the easiest selling point of this collection on PC
Console players don’t wanna play with pc cheaters though. Look at what u people did to warzone
@@UFCWWE69Console players have autoaim cheats right out of the box, lol.
@@UFCWWE69”You people” lol. PCMR
@@UFCWWE69Turn off cross-play if you're that concerned. And it's activision's fault for releasing a terrible anti-cheat, not PC.
First off you can play with PC players. Seccond to other ppl. Autoaim is mostly disabled on the servers
The new beeping loading screens is not the same. 😤
We need those og beeps..
Same with the victory theme and the objective complete sound. The victory theme is very low in pitch and the new objective completed sound is very different from the iconic original sound. The overall font of the text in the game is a little off too.
Its a sham
🤢🤮😭They just can’t get nothing right,the nostalgia is there strongest card,it helps the terrible story and character writing and to f that up is a no no
@@BunnySlopeStation-House “terrible story and character writing”? We’re talking about Battlefront 2 (2005) right? That story only has one real character and they’re unnamed bruh 😭
I always believed that the first Battlefront still had some charm despite the second improving a lot. I will personally being trying to play both online.
Oh it does for sure.
the original had better graphics, more bots and bigger maps with aircraft.
the original semms more balanced, no jedis, also is a slower game u run more slow and for some reason this and other details it give more immersion, and scale, i remember that
@@andresinchausti3841the 2nd one is still immersive though. I felt like the actual OT, PT abd 2D Clone Wars
@@FatherOMalleyBF2 was still the better game overall
Thanks for raising awareness. My experience on PS5 is horrendous. 20 year old game and it’s a jittery, buggy mess and 90% of the time the server list doesn’t even refresh. The purpose of this collection is multiplayer and that’s the worst part of the game right now.
60 gig? wtf?
Awful file optimization.
It's rough.
If you’re in us just change Region to New Zealand
New textures and all the content of course it's gonna go up no big deal get more storage if 60gb makes you worry
That's almost as much as Helldivers...
The thing that hurts me is just the fonts. So much charm is missing and it makes it look like a fan made amateurish concept piece. I hope they add the og fonts back.
And the BF1 loading sounds, they NEED to add the og sounds back
Agreed, I see exactly what you mean, the fonts, and even looking at the lighting on some maps just looks awful.... it's why I will not buy this game on steam only keep to switch for now as that's where I've always dreamed of playing these games.
It wouldnt suprise me if there was licensing issues depending on the font, granted i doubt they would see anyform of backlash for using the fonts regardless.
@@jasperfox6821I played it - I refunded it, don't buy this game.
@russianoverkill3715 please do elaborate, what did you find, what went wrong?
@@jasperfox6821 perfomance is worse, AI upscaled textures aren't even noticable, it's the completely opposite, graphics are ruined, HUD is displaced for no reason and looks ugly, new font is awful, sounds are awful, multiplayer is laggy(I live in eastern europe but even other people had this problem judging by negative reviews on steam), many bugs and glitches from original games are left unfixed, cut content isn't even fully back, because there is no Bespin Platforms map. This game is a scam.
Let's be honest. When it was announced, I was expecting it to be no more than £20
The funniest thing is, the originals are cheaper 😂
@@why3994 that's obvious. But with multiplayer, both games and texture updates you'd expect a small price increase. Even £20 some may say is too much. £28.99 is ridiculous, but people bought it for nostalgia.
The inflated harddrive space is almost certainly uncompressed sound files.
That and all the upscale FMVs. Those take up a surprising amount of space
I love the original, it may not have sprint, space battles, or heroes, but at has air vehicles in ground battles unlike BF2.
Which is what I used to love. Using the dropships and raining fire down on infantry / vehicles
Yeah the first one has always been my favorite. It has so much more charm imo and the map selection is so much better.
@@inertiaarch3798 I would love to be the guy that designs the multiplayer to a battlefront 3, no starcards or one weapon only or battle points for heroes and vehicles unless it’s for reinforcement classes. Basically Battlefield but Star Wars.
Don’t forget the neutral factions, going prone, far more open and wide maps if that’s your thing, and each individual class for each faction had a lot more small unique quirks about them
@@inertiaarch3798dude, BF2 literally feels the saga + the Clone Wars Multimedia Project and the 2nd actually has maps from the movies. Why are you BF1 fanboys so toxic and hateful?
I’m really looking forward to this game.
Edit: After watching the full review, damn it really does seem like Asyper put in the bare minimum amount of work into this game. That’s really disappointing. Let’s just hope that they can fix the multiplayer issues asap.
Are you still getting it?
Lol bruh the MP is gonna be dead in like a month. If you've never played the og MP, it was broken AFFFFF. I'm sure they didn't go into balancing things lol.
grenade spam to the max lol@@jakemensik2842
Lmao what did you expect? Its a cash grab
why on earth would you play this game when you can play the star wars battlefront 2 remake from 2017 thats 10x better. Only reason you would wanna buy this is for nostalgic reasons. I'll stick to the remake thanks
How does a game in 2024 not have an option to invert the Y axis?
Cause it’s not a 2024 game 😂😂
@@kennypowers1945Re-released in 2024, the original versions had this option
why would you want to fly a plane incorrectly? pushing down brings you up, pushing up brings you down. it's simple bruh just learn to play
Me: *Hears KOTOR 2 music in the video
"I see you are a man of culture as well."
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Say whatever you want about these games - the *ABSOLUTE BEST THING ABOUT THESE GAMES* is the *TOTAL ABSENCE* of *_ANY_* "di$ney war$" *_GARBAGE_* in them. Now *_THIS_* is STAR WARS...
UPDATE: Yeah, that still doesn't excuse launching 2 broken games with only 3 servers, crashes, lagging, other issues and a $35 price tag...
Desperate Cope😬
Not gonna lie, when they announced that battlefront 2 was going to have all ground levels feature hero assault, I figured that at the very least, they would have added a sprint function to the first game.
The maps are balanced without sprinting taken into account. If they put sprint into BF 1, they would all play like garbage, especially in regards to pacing, but also cover positions would be FAR too generous.
Sprinting is not needed in the first one
Nah thats like saying they should put sprint into Halo CE, 2, and 3. It wasn’t part of the game and it was a unique experience compared to now
You can sprint
@@nunyabidness8281He said the first game, and you cannot sprint in the first game
Glad I watching this before getting my hopes up. Thanks for always being honest, dude
You will probably find that the bloated GB and quieter sound is because they have used uncompressed audio for a higher audio quality however that means the audio will generally be quieter and take up a lot more space
Jesus Christ the bootlicking doesn’t end does it? It’s lazy and half-assed. Nothing else.
@@popcornfilms1yep no one should buy this on steam
@@popcornfilms1They’re just explaining the poor optimisation, calm down
@@popcornfilms1 Don't pop a blood vessel.
@@popcornfilms1 🤣🤣 oh no someone explained the reason I must attack them because they are smarter than me!
I'm so conflicted about Aspyr. On one hand, I love how much they love the KOTOR and the Star Wars brand in general-- on the other, they seem to have the worst luck in the world and a lot of their output (and lack of) shows it.
What is there to be conflicted about? They’ve only ever done ports and just about every port they’ve done has been dogshit.
They are just vultures preying on the carcass of Lucasarts and throwing out half-assed cash grab ports. Nothing to like about them.
@@jamese3114this one’s the same sadly
They love Star Wars so much they dropped a big turd on it.
All of Aspyres ports were literally the absolute bare minimum. I dont know where you see their "love" for Star Wars
If they really have 4k textures, the size really grows. The quality is about “how the 4k textures were made”.
I really love Battlefront 1 & 2 classics and still play them on steam. I pre-ordered this classic collection for the switch just so I could play while traveling to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu competitions. Also you can't beat playing hero assault on every map! So its worth buying for me, and it will show how good aspyr really are at handling older games.
Good luck in your competitions!
@@NineToFiveGamerUC0079 Thank you! 🤙
11:16 I’m crying in tears when he said “it’s just.. unacceptable” 🤣
:O
got my refund, servers are actually horrendous and 60gb is beyond ridiculous 🤣 can’t believe i fell for this nostalgia bait
Maybe this is already somewhat known, but the reason why the original BF2 still has PC multiplayer is because an update from years ago restored the servers after GameSpy died.
Considering I've played the OG versions of both games for almost 2 decades now, I feel like I've already seen the best of them. I'm thrilled that both games got a remaster for new and old fans, but for me, the lack of mod support kills this version even more than crossplay I think. OG BF2 mod support is so expansive and great that it makes it tough for me to get excited for something like this. Not to mention all the bugs mentioned in the video.
Also, 60 GB install? That seems to happen a lot these days and I hate that.
Yeah I know! And it runs better :S
Addon folders for both games are already known to be there, the game is moddable.
@@grannytoes7221being moldable and supporting the mods already out there are 2 different things to be honest.
@@Kolonol1 people say "the lack of mod support" and act as if it's un-moddable, which isn't true.
It not 60gb you get the ps5 version and the ps4 version and both versions are 30gb
For those of you saying 60 gigs its for both the old gen and next gen versions combined. It’s actually 30. I dont know and or care if thats bad
I think the reception of this collection will really depend on the platform. On PC, it seems not worth it and cheap. On every other console, it feels like a really great release because a lot of people haven't been able to access it for a long time
I almost agree, however, you can run the old BF games on a laptop from 2010, hardware lots of us probably already has access to.
@@basdegroot3615 That's true, but many people can't be bothered to do so with a piece of technology they might not use very often. I think there's a lot to be said about the convenience of having it in an instant on the Switch or PS5 that people are likely to be using far more often.
@@basdegroot3615yes that’s basically what he already said, pc users don’t need to buy this but most console players don’t have an easy way to play bf2 so it’s more useful for them
100% agree. Granted, I bought it for PC for the splitscreen. But outside of that, it's really not worth it. The Remaster Project and Shader Patch mods already look 1000% better than any AI upscaling. There are already mods to restore the Xbox content and add hero assault to every map. Literally no real reason to buy this on PC unless you want the splitscreen. All the mods are still going to be for the classic game anyway! Especially now that so many mod authors have moved on and won't be updating their mods for the classic collection.
@@-CrimsoN-online is kinda janky and laggy in the og tho, that the only thing I hope they fixed and reworked for the collection. If not, its not worth a single dime for pc tbh
Western gamedev optimize the game size and compress textures challenge (impossible)
While it is disappointing that Aspyr have only done minimal improvements over the original version I think people are missing the point of this collection: it gives people who only own the latest generation of consoles the chance to play these legendary games. Not everyone has a PC and can play the original games and even less people have a PS2 at home nowadays.
Nevertheless the price is a bit exaggerated, without sale it costs 35€ which is equivalent to over 38$, so almost 40$ for a port with slightly better textures.
I bought it because it has native controller support on PC so it's perfect for my steam deck.
its been fully playable on xbox one (x,s) and series (s,x) for years. you can buy each games for a couple of bucks and visually this looks exactly the same but costs 3x the price.
@@mechayamcha but it has never been for Playstation 4 and 5
If online worker properly I’d be 100% onboard
@@mechayamcha I don't have an xbox, nor would I want one. I already have a ps5, pc, and a steam deck so for me to have native controller support on pc is better for me and I'll gladly pay the price they want just to enjoy it on the go on my steam deck.
Public service announcement: There is NO OPTION to invert your Y-axis in this game.
The answers no, need for 18min of it. Eventually if they show the respect to the Battlefront community, people like me who streamed high quality streams, got others to buy it, the enthusiasm we showed, our sadness when BF2 2017 was over with no mention of BF3, talked with developers, made players excited to even play one weekends worth after they spent 60 usd....then, maybe. This was just about the last straw, there's no excuses for what this launch felt like.
The first one for me was more fun. Seeing the heroes running around being as strong as a hero should be and the yellow team being able to fight back and win. If they added AI heroes and the yellow teams into the 2nd I would never look back.
That’s really what they ought to have done is just splice the campaigns together, add the little bit of cut content from BF1 into 2, and just have it be a single game. They’re similar enough that I don’t see why they couldn’t have
If theres 1 thing this collection made me do. It was to buy the originals before they get delisted off steam
I still play this game. That's how good it is.
It's really depressing and bizarre now that we went from indie developers/studios making better games and content than most AAA studios to modders making games much better with more content than an actual studio developing or upgrading one.
The fact that Aspyr can keep putting out slop and people open their wallets for nostalgia alone is really disappointing.
If someone wants to play BF1 or BF2 Pandemic, just bought them on pc on steam. Very low computers can run both of them, with multiple mods/steam workshop :)
I really hope they fix the issues with online. Growing up, I only ever played Split screen. So I am really excited to try playing games full of actual players.
Unpopular option.
Battlefront 1 is the better than 1 😶
"this collection is pretty cheap"
My brother in Christ they are charging $40 for two games that they just slapped some up texture mods onto
In my opinion (I have both of the original Xbox releases & unfortunately this re-release by Aspyr) the original versions (by Lucasarts, which are also made backwards compatible with the Xbox One & Series X/S) are still far superior in all regards IMO (they're both cheaper, take up less file size, the graphics have already been enhanced from their original 2004 & 2005 version back in 2018, the play control is great, inverted controls are available, they have all cutscenes, they have all music, they ave all sound effects, they have all legendary rewards, hit detection works great, flight controls work great, camera options work great, they have all DLCs add ons - characters & locations, they have the 4 player couch co-op spilt-screen and no glitches, bugs or other such issues - like the Classic Collection still has to this day...the only thing it doesn't have is the online multiplayer - but since no a lot of actual people are playing at an given time anymore, what does that matter in the end? IMO)...I personally removed the Classic Collection (and got fully refunded) and kept the original Battlefront 1 & 2 (via backwards compatibility on my Xbox), which I do play quite often & still enjoy. My recommendation, get the originals (either by backwards compatibility on your consoles OR on computer via Steam). Peace ✌️.
What a flop this was...Aspyr should be absolutely ashamed of themselves for this trainwreck.
Battlefront 1 is a masterpiece.
I love battlefront 2 but personally I think the first one is better, I like the maps it has more than in the sequel. Does suck you can't use heroes in it though
Mods do fix that I believe?
Things i wanted in a shooter and an xbox player
-no PC players
-no hosted games
-old school gaming
This game is the shit. Way better than the new ones
Same honestly, I am having a good time on PS5 for the same reasons. But still if they can fix the problems it would be even better!
I'm not surprised that the Classic Collection is subpar. I literally only bought it for the Splitscreen so me and my wife can play. The original is still better because of the mods. The Remaster Mod and Shader Patch are especially amazing looking mods and are handcrafted textures versus AI upscaling.
To be honest this will get boring really soon without mod support. Every now and then I hop on Battlefront 2 on PC and the most fun is the mod content. Vanilla has been played for years, I don't need a upscaled 60gb Xbox One Port to play it a week and then hardly ever touch it. A shame because I LOVE the original Battlefront
They took what was already available through community mods for many years, packaged up the existing work, and are charging extra instead of making this a game update for the games which are already released. Terrible behavior, though not surprising from Aspyr and Disney.
i dont know about you but back in 2004/2005 having wireless internet was rare so playing online is a completely new thing to me and i get to come back to probably to one of the best and nostalgic games of my childhood? SIGN ME UP SAILOR
XL mode was my absolute FAVORITE!!! Before my computer went down and I never got a new one, those are some of the only maps I played
What is XL? I’ve only played on the Xbox version
@@jcgalvan26 pretty sure it stands for extra large but there is like 2-3 times the amount of units on the field at any given time. You could adjust the amount but I always set it to maximum.
I always thought it would be cool to put ALL of the units on the battlefield and just have a free for all...
I just don’t understand how it’s so poorly optimized. Like all the other stuff I can see them patching later, I personally am not that upset by it, but it should NOT be 60gb.
“Significantly improved visuals” is being very generous. I’m glad they kept the gameplay & all the original modes, but there’s so much more they could’ve done to improve the graphics. That’s my only complaint.
Its nice they included Battlefront 1 , but honestly after i bought BF2 all the way back in 2005, i didnt touch the first one much. Bf2 just improved it in pretty much every way
Aspyr knew they needed to win the fans back after botching kotor 2 restored content
But they failed.
Indeed...
Tomb Raider oldie fans can disagree. Also, PC gamers like me.
@@michaelandreipalon359tomb raider remasters gladly didn’t let us down and its only getting better with the patches and mods coming. Hoping for a tr 4-6 remaster ( for 6 it should be a remake since it was never fully finished and hopefully they bring back all the cut content)
@@lecljone2566 I'll just be OK with The Last Revelation as expansion DLC or something. The stuff that came after are just plain bad to me.
Very disappointing that this is the second time a Star Wars remaster got released in a borderline unacceptable state
Granted, from my understanding of the Restored Content DLC, that wasn't *entirely* their fault, but it's still a huge sore spot
Not a remaster. It's a re-release, a port.
No, it's not worth buying. It's only 2 players, the original was 4. This is a downgrade.
Why they changed the typography?
I was hoping you could clarify something for me as this is a huge factor whether I get the game or not.
Does this mean that Galactic Conquest can be played online and with friends? Is it only for Battlefront I or II as well? 5:36
Is the campaign for either game support online CO-OP with a friend? I assume not on this one.
The answer to both questions is no unfortunetly.
@@100StarWars what about split-screen on XL modes
I would assume so yeah.
@@100StarWars That’s a bummer. Thank you so much for answering my questions. I really appreciate.
That would be really cool if they’d done that. 20 years later, I feel like they could have but hey I’m not a software developer
Great video, love the technical details. I agree that It doesn't make too much sense to have BF1 here, they should have just made the maps from that available on BF2 and left it at that, in everyway that game is an upgrade to the original. THANK YOU for calling them out for trying to act like that and the DLC was new content and calling it what it is, an upscaled port that you might not play if the servers were still open for the original.
A few things I have questions about, things I decided I would have fixed when I played SWBFII to 100% on the 360 version I own on stream recently, things that should be fixed if they actually put some care into it and did more than just upscale it and open the console servers again.
1. Have they added any of the dlc content to galactic conquest or added any kind of randomization to the planets?
2. have they made the characters available through the leader bonus more random? (In the original, the character for the leader bonus in galactic conquest was locked in by the planet you are on and it felt like you only got to use one or two instead of the whole cast; for example playing as CIS you will never play as count dooku, ventress or the emperor, you will only play as maul or jango)
3. Have they made the AI smarter at all? does it still do stupid and infuriating things like attacking the same planet over and over again in galactic conquest or getting stuck and standing around having a seizure in a corner on the edge of the map somewhere?
4. Also, did they fix the map on Naboo where the AI gets stuck in that corner next to CP 3?
1. I didn't play through enough GC but I didn't see any DLC planets.
2. I think it's still context locked. (Heroes on their specific planets etc)
3. They were still pretty dumb to me so I couldn't confirm.
4. I don't think so.
As long as this Battlefront doesn't have a story that was promised to be a fascinating tale about imperial soldiers but in the end it was just another generic "becoming a Rebel" tale, I will gladly buy it 😊
Believe me you are in for a treat with the story of the 501st
These campaigns are minimal effort, "due to budget and time constraints" but they are pretty good.
@@route77productionswell the first one I don’t think was even going to have a campaign, it just kinda happened and bf2 had a year so🤷♂️🤣 but there still amazing
@@JulianchoNemoga90 you mean story of 501st legion aka Vader fist
@@grimtrazzd6043 still better campaign than EA battlefront 2017 campaign
I will stick to the next gen version of Battlefront 2 I’m not a fan of this 360 graphic and glitchy sliding movement should’ve just gave the next gen versions another update
Thanks for the review. Really appreciate the honesty
Lucky for me I still have Battlefront II on four cds, and it works on Windows 10.
Wish we got a Battlefront set in the Yuuzhan Vong Wars. Imagine the possibilities with the amazing and unique Vong technology!
Underrated take. Those books were great!
never happen under disney but at least there is mod community has answer
for me personally i am getting it on PC for the splitscreen . so yeah, i do think its going to be worth it . still great review !
I’m really hopping there is 32:9 support and if there is proper split screen with it then I think the game will be worth it for me on pc. I am having doubts though that it will be executed properly. The audio delay and multiplayer frame rate is atrocious though, I’d be curious to see if there the fps is still as bad on lan.
Im also hoping for Ultrawide support and even windowed mode, and not ONE reviewer have watched even shows the options. -_-
@@basdegroot3615 Yeah I have been looking man can’t find any information about ultrawide support. I also want 4:3 support because I game on a high refresh rate crt too, I will be super surprised if 4:3 doesn’t work.
The fact that it didn’t launch with steam workshop support is infuriating. Such a missed opportunity
Can you play with the extra player count offline? Can you have 60+ bots for example?
Indeed!
@@100StarWars Woah that is awesome. It must make the game feel very different! Thanks for the reply.
@@100StarWars But can you play XL battles online?
Sadly not.
Are the trophies obtainable offline, or are the majority exclusively online?
Of course!
@@100StarWars thank you, I am really relieved to hear that. I have autism, and was worried due to lack of friends
Is it me, or did the original with the lava look WAY better than the new HD version?
i love how he literally says its not a remaster when it is shows you how little effort was put into this...
Most of the "bad" things seem patchable, so I really think patch updates will be rolling out as soon as it releases.
Yeah, it's very possible and I'm really hopeful it's all fixed come release!
@@100StarWarsI do have a question though. On the original BF games on PC, you could bind a key to changing between 1st and 3rd person views. However the console version of BF2 does not have this. Does the remastered version have this?
It does yeah.
@@100StarWars Great. Thank you so much.
Thing is these things shouldn't be patched to begin with. It shouldn't release broken at all, especially when there's a much cheaper version without these issues.
I played these games a ton back in the day, both solo and with friends.
If I can convince some of them to come back to this, well let's just say: "This is where the fun begins!"
Really good review!
Also i love that the medical droid actually started to "heal" your character even though the grenade killed you. 5:54
The upscale textures removes lighting and glow
I agree. The Mustafar example he showed actually looks worse in the new one.
@@basdegroot3615there’s always still original guys. this isn’t a remake so they can’t fine tune everything and modernize it perfectly like we would like. honestly even if they completely botched this (which doesn’t seem so just minor differences) we should still support this collection and show we care because this might bring around battlefront 3. it’s greedy ass ea they like money if the numbers on this are strong that shows battlefront 3 is just free money sitting on the table and they’ll hopefully make it more like the OG battlefront instead of the godforsaken reboot versions.
Yeah, lol. It's like they added lighting where it wasn't before, but butchered it where it should be. Cloud City looks shitty based on his video.
I was excited for this, but leave it to a fucking company to fuck up small shit, when they are literally being paid to get everything right.
@@domsantiago5444 You're a moron
They delisted the originals after announcing this. This thing didn’t pass the sniff test from day 1
I have the OG star wars battlefront 2 for xbox original and i have never seen that hero before. Maybe it was added for later copies
7:22 Hard disagree. Id rather have all classes layed out in front of me and directly click on the one i want, instead of having to 1D scroll on a list like im using a controller thus limiting myself even further.
I mean that's fair enough. It's an artistic choice.
as someone who upscales content regularly i can see how upscaled content can eat up a lot of file size
The fact that you have to pay 30USD for a fucking RE-RELEASE is crazy, it's not even a remaster. And the worst thing is that people will buy it - it's insane how we as a gaming community are allowing to be fucked in the ass.
That is what I’m saying. It’s literally a modern day, broad daylight scam 😭
Its only 30$ 🙄 better than 69.99$
THANK YOU and people are bragging about PREORDERING a 20 year old game?! geez
for 20 year old games? still too high and they're just PORTS too why excuse this?just because it's not $70 its ok ? Raise your standards people like you are why the industry is in shambles. Do Better for God's Freakin sake@@youtubeisracistx
@@youtubeisracistxthe original with mods is better at cheaper price and mods are free.
As bad as I feel for those who got this game for multiplayer, I for one am terrible at multiplayer shooters and couldn't care less about playing multiplayer. My favorite thing to do when I played all those years ago was to buddy up with a random npc ally, protect them until they died, then go full rampage in a mourning angry killing spree... I can't wait!
I’d rather get this instead of buying a whole ass computer
Your loss though. You'll be missing out on other classics like TIE Fighter and Empire at War.
@@michaelandreipalon359 debatable because some may not like those types of games
@@nighthare19 Never hurts to try them though. Many people have once adamantly refused to play games like Sins of a Solar Empire and Star Control II, and ended up regretting their lateness when they changed their minds a long time later.
@michaelandreipalon359 Yeah, you aren't wrong
never played the first one, but the second battlefront (classic 2005) was my go to game for playstation 2, absolutely smashed it everyday lol
I'm not convinced on paying nearly double or triple the price I paid to get these classics on PC 12 years ago. Just for multiplayer.
I'm going to buy this game when it's cheaper and even then I think I'll only play it for the usual single or co-op gameplay aspects not online gaming.
On a side note people should check out the remaster mod for BF2 2005 because this really makes it a fresh experience.
Heard the original steam version has a lot of outdated issues that not even mods can cover up. Controller support is one. Hackers is another.
Whenever I run the multi-player for the second game on the original, the servers seem like they're made with rubber bands, I can't fight anyone or anything without teleporting or the shots not registering correctly. You experience with lag on that server is what I experience on the current battlefront II servers for the og game, so I'm really hoping that won't be a problem for the rest of this version when it launches.
At least your honest and don't have your head up Disney's butt. Thank you for accurately reviewing the PC version and letting people know what's up.
"I don't think people will play the multiplayer"
HAH, you didn't grow up clocking over 1000 hours into these bad boys online.
9:47 how can anyone see this and think the new version looks better? original looks way better. better lighting w/ bloom. new one just has some crappy high rez textures but no soul or aesthetic sense. some extra pixels on some textures while retaining the same poly counts just looks bad plus without the lighting it looks totally sterile with no atmosphere.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.
Yup, and Cloud City looks.... Eeeesh. Not good.
@@100StarWarsObjetivity exists. If it is missing visual effects from the original, the product is inferior.
Do you think you'll make any sort of update video depending on if the proper release has any patches?
If it improves the game I may!
my only disappointing for this battlefront classic collection
1. could added psp spin off like elite squadron and renegade squadron into the collection
2. mod support on pc for mod community
It might be great, but I’d argue that we should all stop buying remastered games. It’s just lazy gaming companies trying to milk more money from a previous games popularity.
Thank you soooooo much!!! I have been waiting to purchase. Guess I will wait a little longer till they get rid of the issues. If they don't then I will just stick with og ps2 version from time to time not online.
For some reason, they've removed the original SWBF2 crosshair settings. I always liked disabling most of the crosshair and leaving just the small white dot. Also, I can't stand the yellow heat meter on the crosshair, I want to disable it. This has really disappointed me...
Is there ultrawide support?
Bought this on PS5 and god, I regret it. I don't understand how they fumbled so terribly hard.
This was probably my most anticipated game in a long while and its just...ass lol, due to all these issues plaguing it.
I think I'll just stick to the original and all my mods tbh... do you know if they're adding mod support?
I have no clue.
I actually think I have an explanation for the framerate being capped under 30 fps. You’ll see a lot of older games where the physics and other gameplay elements are directly tied to the frame-rate of the game, the original Skyrim is probably the most famous example, but another example is what happens when you try to play Titan Quest multiplayer on modern systems, it becomes an unmanageable lag fest on modern systems unless all players have manually gone into their graphics cards and capped the framerates at lower settings.
Great review! I'm glad you didn't go into this game with your rose tinted nostalgia googles turned up to 11 like most other reviewers did.
Gotta be as neutral as possible
I actually preferred the original, and I never really got into 2 as a kid, though I’ll still go back to 1.
It’s hard to describe, but the gameplay just felt better. I preferred the lack of heroes, as everyone being a normal soldier who could die easily was a big part of the appeal. And BF2 really toned down some of the classes. The droids were definitely broken in 1, but being able to launch people in are with the Super Battle Droid’s rockets was a lot of fun, for example. The maps in the original are also much better.
Great video as always! i think i'm going to stay with my trusty old steam copy and my ps2 copy for the true nostalgia :)
You must do what you feel is right, of course!
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My guesss for the 60 Gigs is just mostl likely that Aspyr Fucked up the FIle Compression or that it's the new 4k textures taking up so much space.
Textures and sounds being uncompressed
The ps5 has piss poor storage capacity for a new age comsole, and games cannot stop making thier file size absurdly large
The Game has 30 GB on Ps5
2tb ssd 200 plus taxes wtf 🤣
Yeah that's why it's well worth the investment in getting more storage for console. Especially given how cheap ssd's have become in recent years