A very important mention that wasn't mentioned. The move psychic noise prevents the target from using all healing moves as well as preventing hp recovery. So if you hit a target with a psychic noise as they were trying to bitter blade, the target would not be able to use bitter blade, as if you had taunted a status move.
Not gonna lie I don't like this functionality. I feel like just turning of the recovery effects of damaging moves is more than enough for them, when most are at or below 75 BP, and the few that aren't are signature moves
it's actually the Heal Block status effect that does this, and Psychic Noise is just one of two moves that applies this status effect, the other being Heal Block
This is more for bell than for you, but step can also mean dance in English... Quickstep is a type of ballroom dancing... dubstep is a type of party music made for dancing... There's dance moves like the box step, the feather step, lock step, time step...
Things of note for semi-invulnerable moves earthquake hits mons using dig but it also does double damage to them and surf hits mons using dive for double damage
I know you left it out because it is massive, but I really think Contact moves deserve a brief mention since its separate from physical, not well explained, and interacts with a lot of abilities. If just a "contact moves are a thing but its too big of a category to include."
Not a category but I do just adore the move Draining Kiss because it restores 75% of the damage dealt instead of 50%. I think that's a really interesting variance on the move.
Related to two turn moves, there are also recharge moves. Currently no abilitiy or item interactions - i can see an item like Power Herb but for this in future gens Another odd category is Wish, Future Sight and Doom Desire - moves that only use one turn but have an impact later. Too small of a group to include.
Something to mention is that population bomb isn’t actually random 4 - 10 times, how it actually works is that it has 90% accuracy and keeps hitting up to ten times until it misses
Clangorous soul, as a dance move, is likely based on the Haka, which is a style of hawaiian dance typically used for competition and/or warfare, and is the namesake of Hakamo-o.
5:36 While this is technically true, it doesn't mean much since GameFreak have been very careful making sure a pokemon who can have No Guard doesn’t get access to an OHKO move
And twister, and hurricane. I think some others too... I remember wishing to use a skydrop and thunder/hurricane strat in doubles once, but it was just bad xD
Some things that you forgot to mention: Heal Pulse, when used by a Pokémon with Mega Launcher, will heal the target by 75% of their HP instead of 50% HP. Mountain Gale _doesn't_ interact with Wind Power and Wind Rider, despite its Japanese name translating to "Iceberg Wind." This is because you're attacking with giant ice chunks and not the wind itself.
iirc Sheer Cold has a slightly lower accuracy when used by non-ice types (like 20% or smth), and the game says Sheer Cold has higher accuracy when used by ice types but it's just back to 30% like other ohko moves
A question about trapping moves: how do they interact with tera? Like if they use sand tomb on you, you get trapped, then following turn you tera into a flying type, can you escape on the turn after you tera? Or tera to a ghost type in general. Similarly, if they use leech seed on you, and THEN you become a grass type, does the leech seed disappear?
As far as i'm concerned, tera just instantly gives all the qualities of the type, so grass teras become immune to powder moves, and ghost teras should be able to switch out no matter if they were already trapped.
Even if Rain Dance did count as a dancing move it would never matter since it doesn’t do anything if there already is rain, so I guess its not a big deal lol, though it is interesting that the name difference is the reason.
@@regeterpedro2380 would it? does using rain dance in the rain deactivate the rain? i think the move just fails, doesnt it? in any case, while this is all true for oricorio's ability, there could be a dance-based ability in the future that interacts with them and then it'll be interesting to see if rain dance is made to count or not. like, imagine a pokemon that gets priority on dancing moves. priority rain dance would be kinda huge, and bring that move back as a way to set rain quickly and reliably without having to solely rely on drizzle
Sound is really my fave, tho it's already in the first vid. Going through subs is a really unique property. If they ever add Thick Fog back, I hope Sound is unaffected by the Accuracy nerf, since you're basically just screaming in the opponent's general direction.
Ok im confused with population bomb combined with loaded dice. If you’re saying it will have one accuracy check, why would it hit from 4 to 10 if this move is set to hit 10 times unless a miss (which wouldn’t happen as long as it hits the first one according to what you said). Can somebody explain, please?
I would add accuracy weather dependent moves. Hurricane, bleakwind storm, thunder, blizzard, I dont know if landorus and thundurus feature moves also work this way, maybe.
Actually pretty sure population bomb does t inteact with wjther skill link or loaded dice. It hits 1 to ten times and it just has a 10% chance to miss in each whoch is why wide lens makes it so you always hit 10
Chloroblast is no an explosion move. It does not interact with the ability damp, it simply causes the user to lose half its health after use. Magnet pull, shadow tag, and arena trap are all abilities that trap, not moves.
Didn't know that Big Root had those extra interactions. I always was unsure of what moves bar Bind and Wrap that Binding Band, and Grip Claw interacted with.
i think rain dance being "rain prayer" could still count as a dancing move, because i think rain prayers typically involve doing some sort of dancing ritual in so many cultures across the world. but at the same time, it really doesnt need to count, because there's really no point in oricorio copying rain dance immediately after it was used lol, it would change basically nothing about the battle. i guess any future dancing related ability will have to reconcile with it later, but for oricorio's ability, it really doesnt matter also unrelated but it's kinda surprising that there's actually so few recoil moves when you list them out like that. i couldve sworn there were dozens and dozens of recoil moves but you know, i guess not lol. never really thought about that
What about Steel Beam, its not considered recoil? (ik its not an explosion move because its not affected by damp), either way its interesting, you lose 50% hp like mind blown, but it doesnt interact with rockhead
@@akashdutta4406 OK, since I do have the vanilla Emerald ROM, I used a downloaded .sav to play and test and dear Arceus it took forever to encounter a Liquid Ooze Gulpin. Good thing this player have a Trace Gardevoir or I would have been shooting everything with Leech Seed. Anyway back on topic, Leech Seed damaged Shroomish. It would say "It sucked up the Liquid Ooze" every time Leech Seed activates its draining effect. So at least now I know that's how it is in Gen 3. Now I'm curious what happened in later gens. I can't run DS emulators on my phone (too old) and even if I can, I've lost all my DS ROMs and .sav, except for B2 and that's stuck in my (broken) PC. Anyone else here can test for us?
@@PhonyBread it’s honestly so ridiculous at this point when every topic has multiple parts what even is the point other than making another half assed attempt
Your Pokemon videos pull in decent numbers, but it seems your Smash related vids are hindering your channel's growth, so I'd recommend creating a separate channel for the other content and making this a strictly Pokemon focused one. Same thing happened with Moxie Boosted with his scripted and livestream vids and he seems to be doing better now
A very important mention that wasn't mentioned. The move psychic noise prevents the target from using all healing moves as well as preventing hp recovery. So if you hit a target with a psychic noise as they were trying to bitter blade, the target would not be able to use bitter blade, as if you had taunted a status move.
It also prevents the 2nd turn of Wish from activating which is a cool feature.
Not gonna lie I don't like this functionality. I feel like just turning of the recovery effects of damaging moves is more than enough for them, when most are at or below 75 BP, and the few that aren't are signature moves
it's actually the Heal Block status effect that does this, and Psychic Noise is just one of two moves that applies this status effect, the other being Heal Block
Fun fact: in spanish, Aqua Step is called "Aquatic Dance" so it makes more sense to it being a dance move
This is more for bell than for you, but step can also mean dance in English... Quickstep is a type of ballroom dancing... dubstep is a type of party music made for dancing... There's dance moves like the box step, the feather step, lock step, time step...
Things of note for semi-invulnerable moves earthquake hits mons using dig but it also does double damage to them and surf hits mons using dive for double damage
I know you left it out because it is massive, but I really think Contact moves deserve a brief mention since its separate from physical, not well explained, and interacts with a lot of abilities. If just a "contact moves are a thing but its too big of a category to include."
Not a category but I do just adore the move Draining Kiss because it restores 75% of the damage dealt instead of 50%. I think that's a really interesting variance on the move.
Oblivion wing goes brrrrrrr
@@Gatebeaker That too. But it was signature
Related to two turn moves, there are also recharge moves. Currently no abilitiy or item interactions - i can see an item like Power Herb but for this in future gens
Another odd category is Wish, Future Sight and Doom Desire - moves that only use one turn but have an impact later. Too small of a group to include.
Healing wish and lunar dance now fall under that second category to some extent
•Weight/Defense-based moves.
•Protection moves.
•Charge-up/Cool-down moves (multi-turn moves?).
•Set-damage moves.
•Ignoring [X] moves.
•Outside of battle effect moves.
•You could always talk about gimmick mechanic moves (z-moves, dyna/giganta-moves, tera-moves).
Something to mention is that population bomb isn’t actually random 4 - 10 times, how it actually works is that it has 90% accuracy and keeps hitting up to ten times until it misses
It’s actually 1-10 unless using loaded dice
@@Pi-eipp that’s not true
@@declanflannery ?
@@Pi-eipp no it’s not random at all it’s keeps hitting until the move misses
@@TobyWells-y1k that’s what i meant
Clangorous soul, as a dance move, is likely based on the Haka, which is a style of hawaiian dance typically used for competition and/or warfare, and is the namesake of Hakamo-o.
5:36 While this is technically true, it doesn't mean much since GameFreak have been very careful making sure a pokemon who can have No Guard doesn’t get access to an OHKO move
Actually, Liquid Ooze does affect Leech Seed; it effectively prevents the mon that would heal from doing it by dealing an equal amount of damage
Thunder can also hit an involnerable fly pokemon.
R.I.P pilot
And twister, and hurricane. I think some others too... I remember wishing to use a skydrop and thunder/hurricane strat in doubles once, but it was just bad xD
Some things that you forgot to mention:
Heal Pulse, when used by a Pokémon with Mega Launcher, will heal the target by 75% of their HP instead of 50% HP.
Mountain Gale _doesn't_ interact with Wind Power and Wind Rider, despite its Japanese name translating to "Iceberg Wind." This is because you're attacking with giant ice chunks and not the wind itself.
iirc Sheer Cold has a slightly lower accuracy when used by non-ice types (like 20% or smth), and the game says Sheer Cold has higher accuracy when used by ice types but it's just back to 30% like other ohko moves
You forgot to mention that No Retreat traps the user instead of the opponent
A question about trapping moves: how do they interact with tera? Like if they use sand tomb on you, you get trapped, then following turn you tera into a flying type, can you escape on the turn after you tera? Or tera to a ghost type in general. Similarly, if they use leech seed on you, and THEN you become a grass type, does the leech seed disappear?
As far as i'm concerned, tera just instantly gives all the qualities of the type, so grass teras become immune to powder moves, and ghost teras should be able to switch out no matter if they were already trapped.
If you Tera Ghost you definitely can escape.
I think for Sand Tomb it would remain though not positive.
Even if Rain Dance did count as a dancing move it would never matter since it doesn’t do anything if there already is rain, so I guess its not a big deal lol, though it is interesting that the name difference is the reason.
It would deactivate the rain
@@regeterpedro2380 would it? does using rain dance in the rain deactivate the rain? i think the move just fails, doesnt it? in any case, while this is all true for oricorio's ability, there could be a dance-based ability in the future that interacts with them and then it'll be interesting to see if rain dance is made to count or not. like, imagine a pokemon that gets priority on dancing moves. priority rain dance would be kinda huge, and bring that move back as a way to set rain quickly and reliably without having to solely rely on drizzle
@@gwen6622 actually im not sure, i know that happens with trick room, but with weather i vould be wrong
Sound is really my fave, tho it's already in the first vid. Going through subs is a really unique property. If they ever add Thick Fog back, I hope Sound is unaffected by the Accuracy nerf, since you're basically just screaming in the opponent's general direction.
Ok im confused with population bomb combined with loaded dice. If you’re saying it will have one accuracy check, why would it hit from 4 to 10 if this move is set to hit 10 times unless a miss (which wouldn’t happen as long as it hits the first one according to what you said). Can somebody explain, please?
I would add accuracy weather dependent moves. Hurricane, bleakwind storm, thunder, blizzard, I dont know if landorus and thundurus feature moves also work this way, maybe.
Actually pretty sure population bomb does t inteact with wjther skill link or loaded dice. It hits 1 to ten times and it just has a 10% chance to miss in each whoch is why wide lens makes it so you always hit 10
I could be wrong but doesn’t leech seed actually interact with liquid ooze? (~9:00)
It does, I made a mistake
A side note, chloroblast is an explosion move you forgot to mention
Also, would magnet pull, shadow tag, and arena trap be counted as trapping sub category, because they do trap the opponent
Chloroblast is no an explosion move. It does not interact with the ability damp, it simply causes the user to lose half its health after use. Magnet pull, shadow tag, and arena trap are all abilities that trap, not moves.
Oh ok, that clears up some stuff, thank you
Nice video ❤
Thanks!
Didn't know that Big Root had those extra interactions.
I always was unsure of what moves bar Bind and Wrap that Binding Band, and Grip Claw interacted with.
7:57 how about "Insta-Heal"?
Could mention the Recharge moves (Hyper Beam, Giga Impact and their various clones) if you ever revisit this
i think rain dance being "rain prayer" could still count as a dancing move, because i think rain prayers typically involve doing some sort of dancing ritual in so many cultures across the world. but at the same time, it really doesnt need to count, because there's really no point in oricorio copying rain dance immediately after it was used lol, it would change basically nothing about the battle. i guess any future dancing related ability will have to reconcile with it later, but for oricorio's ability, it really doesnt matter
also unrelated but it's kinda surprising that there's actually so few recoil moves when you list them out like that. i couldve sworn there were dozens and dozens of recoil moves but you know, i guess not lol. never really thought about that
What about Steel Beam, its not considered recoil? (ik its not an explosion move because its not affected by damp), either way its interesting, you lose 50% hp like mind blown, but it doesnt interact with rockhead
That’s because it deals 50% of your hp regardless of how much damage you deal. Recoil moves deal self damage based on how much damage is dealt
Wait, Leech Seed don't interact with Liquid Ooze? I remember the opposite. Did it changed across gens?
I too wanna know
@@akashdutta4406 am playing an Emerald ROM hack (I don't have a vanilla .sav). I guess I'll check in it for now.
@@akashdutta4406 OK, since I do have the vanilla Emerald ROM, I used a downloaded .sav to play and test and dear Arceus it took forever to encounter a Liquid Ooze Gulpin. Good thing this player have a Trace Gardevoir or I would have been shooting everything with Leech Seed.
Anyway back on topic, Leech Seed damaged Shroomish. It would say "It sucked up the Liquid Ooze" every time Leech Seed activates its draining effect. So at least now I know that's how it is in Gen 3.
Now I'm curious what happened in later gens. I can't run DS emulators on my phone (too old) and even if I can, I've lost all my DS ROMs and .sav, except for B2 and that's stuck in my (broken) PC. Anyone else here can test for us?
It does, I made a mistake
Liquid Ooze does interact with Leechh Seed at least in Pokemon Showdown.
Correct, I made a mistake
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Shhhhhh, you'll give away the secret!
@@PhonyBread it’s honestly so ridiculous at this point when every topic has multiple parts what even is the point other than making another half assed attempt
@@PhonyBread i did myself a favor and unsubscribed, googling the info myself would be faster
Your Pokemon videos pull in decent numbers, but it seems your Smash related vids are hindering your channel's growth, so I'd recommend creating a separate channel for the other content and making this a strictly Pokemon focused one. Same thing happened with Moxie Boosted with his scripted and livestream vids and he seems to be doing better now