'Most of us are tired of it': Douglas Murray slams 'sick' calls for slavery reparations
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Author Douglas Murray has slammed people who engage in a kind of "grievance competition" and cry about the "hurt" they've suffered as a result of slavery centuries ago.
"All history has consequences and ramifications ... if we were to play this fairly we would at least look at all of the countries around the world that engaged in a slave trade who are simply not interested in any form of reparations," Mr Murray told Sky News Australia's Piers Morgan.
Mr Murray claimed slavery persists in Africa today and that there are more slaves globally than during the height of the transatlantic slave trade.
"So some of us are simply a bit bored of hearing people ripping at closed wounds and then crying about their hurt, or presumed hurt," he said.
"Nobody is alive who has actually suffered the hurt and nobody is alive who did the wrong."
He added it's always the "more virtuous" countries, such as the United Kingdom and United States, that are presented as "the worst countries" over this issue.
"It's sick and most of us are tired of it."
Douglas the voice of reason as usual paula stop preaching we are not interested
So true! She is the classic case of "Lights on - no one is home!" She is boring!
Yesteday I watched a documentary on slavery in Qatar where women and female children were being traded.... This is happening today.
Paula has no idea..her voice is giving me a brain tumour...
@@Rachel_M_ Paula only wants to hold the UK accountable! Empty vessels make the loudest noise = Paula.
@@stephenmarshall8367 Oh no....turn the volume down on her...she really does not have anything worthwhile to say!
She is extremely manipulative. Never apologise for something you have not done. You are accountable for your own actions and nobody else.
and at the time that slavery was practiced by Europeans, it was practiced by everyone else and was permitted by everyone. Actually it was in Europe and the Europeans that stopped slavery in the first place. In Mauritania, e.g., it was still possible to legally own a slave until 1979.
what a load of tosh
@@goncalomeneses5611there are actually more slaves today than there has ever been in history but nobody likes to mention it.
To be consistent, she should ask that every African Government from Senegal to Angola should apologise for the role that their antecedents played in the trans Atlantic slave trade. But she won't.
@@richardvaughan4509 They wouldn't be as tolerant. They would laugh in her face and show her the door.
Slavery still exists in Gulf countries, Saudi, Libya, Mauritania etc... Stop that first, before virtue signalling.
Amen! Please add in the child sex slave industry to that list. Just watched “Sound of Freedom” movie and I was shocked. Let’s spend resources to fight these horrors!
You've missed the point, they aren't black so it doesn't fit her agenda
@@Tzhz white people are owned reparations for defective farming equipment
@@Tzhz They are black lol, almost all of them are africans, who are "sponsored" by a family to come to the country and then their passport is taken and they are not paid, not allowed outside etc etc You can buy a slave for as little as £3000 there, they sell them on apps along with furniture and used cars, the reason she doesn't care is because she really doesn't give a shit about slavery or her people, only what crying about it can do for her personally. She's abhorrent and a disgrace to her community.
It exists everywhere, western countries included and it pisses me off that people think it was ever stopped
As an Indian i think European countries should not apologize what they did 100-200 years back
Remember, it was the same people whose ignorance ignited a fire storm which became WW2. Also, the dividing of the subcontinent. Both of these issues was not 100 years ago.
Isn't it strange that these activists try to destroy books, statues and famous names that remind us all of our past but then continue to bring up slavery/racism as a tool to try and blackmail Countries / white people for money over past aggressions that neither race lived through .
I wouldn’t exactly conflate Nazism with Europe itself…
@@jimjames2429the same people that were important enough so that their conflicts became worldwide*
It's not like the rest of the world was less ignorant or warmongering, my dude.
But you want Pakistan to apologize to you? What a shame! These F'**ng British tore apart your country and made two different ones. Stop licking the white people's boot.
Douglas Murray speaks so much sense. Said it perfectly.
Mad respect
He’s right though. The whole world was involved in the slave trade. Why is it only one country that’s being held accountable? Not to mention it’s a bit late to say sorry to the people that actually needed to hear it.
@@cu6upckuu48I think you got that wrong. Better in the sense that free societies that people wants to go to, where there’s freedom of speech and rule of law and less discrimination and longer life expectancy and higher standard of living etc, the list is endless. Those societies ARE better. And they are better because we made them better.
Otherwise people wouldn’t want to go there.
So he’s just stating a fact. That the best societies do get attacked the most by these selective idiots with a very poor understanding of history.
@@cu6upckuu48The truth hurts , doesn't it ?
A lot of people thought Hitler made sense too
The only achievement of underachievers is to cast themselves as victims to get free stuff.
I love this comment!!
That’s a fantastic comment. Not ashamed to say I may use that at some point.
or to live of the hard work endured by others many moons ago 😉
@@melc4308 but you know black people were not the only slaves. You listened to this argument right?
Everything Douglas said was correct. So where are my reparations and where is the black apology for the slavery they took part in.
They are literally shamelessly stealing from big corporations like walmart and target with trolleys, record them and show off. And no one to stop them
Maybe people like this woman could also pay reparations to families who lost family members ending slavery,?
😂😂😂 noo wayyy!!!
you didn't just say that omg 😂😂
these people fam
There was also a white slave trade by the wealthy Africans who came to Europe to take back caucasian slaves hundred of years ago, not many people know this.
There were many black people, enslaving other black people in the past, as Murray pointed out. Since she is a middle-class British black woman, there's a better than even chance that her ancestors were among those, and she has benefited directly from it.
Pay the decendents of Sir Issac Newton, a Britisher, who ended slavery by discovering the laws of physics and ushering in the industrial age to build machines that spared humans from hard labor.
Hebrews should be first in line for reparations , because of Egypt(blacks). Moors(black) slave traders ,captured and sold blacks into slavery. Usa was the first to abolish it , and most of the world followed. That lady is probably using a phone made by slave-labor in an Asian country,,,,
As a British man of Caribbean origin, Douglas is absolutely right. Reparations for what exactly? Slavery has been a part of history for thousands and thousands of years. The sins of the father are NOT the sins of the son.
The only response that most woke people have upon being confronted with an ironclad argument is to form a smug grin.
and just a quick question, a very simple question... please explain to the congregation here just exactly what "woke" means
this should be good 😂
I'll await your response
@@blackmagik6544it means an idiot like u
@@blackmagik6544 Woke- a type of Maoism based around identity+race rather than class issues, at its core is a deep racial hatred of European whites and often Jews...
You could also argue it's a new and emerging Nazism.
@@blackmagik6544blah blah blah stay on topic
@@20carrocks why when you people flip flop all the time when you see fit. 🤣
if you ain't got nothing to say or no argument to argue with instead of blah blah blah
shut your dirty disgusting despicable worse than nazi mouth.
Why should people who never owned slaves pay reparations to people who never have been slaves?
Utter absurdity.
That's how stupid people in American government are. The only people's more stupid are those who voted for them.
Is it absurd for people who never owned slaves to pay compensation to slave owners?
@@KneegrowthPeriodTV The British Government did just that. That's how Britain ended the slave trade, all those years ago. The Government borrowed so much money from the Bank Of England. The debt wasn't paid off until 2015.
@@Armadacon I know, just wanted to know if the guy I was replying was aware of this
and some of us are from irish ancestory. The slogan was "No Blacks, No Dogs and no irish" ....we were put after the dogs!. So why should we have to pay those more privileged to be at the top of the list!
Its an outrage ;)
Douglas Murray brilliantly expressing what every civilized European is thinking.
@DouglasMurray is not brilliant. You’ve been fooled by his fake Etonian accent. He is completely ignorant about payments still being made to European countries for ending slavery. Do your research.
Douglas is absolute right!
😂😂😂 you got more chance of getting blood from a stone then getting him to buy a round.
There are many individuals, organisations and institutions that benefit financially this very day from the profits and investments made during the slave trade. Those investments and purchases like landed estates still exist, they didn't disappear the day slavery was abolished! The Church of England is one example. The Banks are another. The Royals and extended family are a third example. Universities, a forth.
@@ohdearismYou talk absolute nonsense 🤷🏻♂️🤡🤣
Still….I guess it fits your narrative, yes?
Douglas is always right. Should be PM
@@ohdearism If that reasoning would be effective then no one on earth would resist or endure to such type of analysis. Including in African societies, in which slavery and other issues that nowadays people regard them as evil existed prior to any involvement of Europeans in the continent. The point is that one is not responsible for past events. No one blames the current Germans for what happened during WWII e rightly so. People move one, including because in the end, we all are sinners and have skeletons in the closet. Everyone. And not has the right to pass that kind of judgments over others, including judgement on past generations, considering themselves as better than those past generations, completely ignoring the circumstances and context of their life. If you act like, one day, in the future, your descendants will judge you in the same manner, as make not mistake, often live is surprising and perhaps many of today´s individual that are so keen to pass judgment on the past generations and past events, perhaps they will get a real surprise how their one choices and behaviors will be judged in the future. It is called hubris.
we need to apologize for something that happened before we were born to people who were not alive at the peak of the problem who use this is as a means to generate an income, people are building careers on the back of this narrative. if the UK and USA, etc are so bad, so dangerous and inclined to slavery why then are we allowing these people to speak? why are they so emboldened that they feel they can make these accusations and have these conversations and expect to be treated with respect and in many cases demand reverence. surely they should be in fear of speaking out. it is not just boring, it is a bare faced lie.
Victimhood is a currency, it can make you richer.
have to take over West , as long as West exist there will be no peace for the rest of the world , RIP West
If I tried for weeks, I could not sum it up as well as he has just done. Honestly, this is hit on so many notes for me and is exactly what needs to be said and heard by everyone.
Douglas Murray is so on point, what a fantastic eloquent speaker of a factual, thoughtful mind.
yes and many people are tired of another world war 2 movie and the nazi and the jewish community LIKE ENOUGH ALREADY, MOVE ON
Paula had a job trying to be as good as him.big fail just a whinger they are boring
So was Thomas Jefferson warning in: "I trimble when I reflect that God is just and his justice can't sleep forever."
Galatians 6:7 "Be not deceived[ in your narcissistic systemic bigotry thoughts] for God is not to be made fun of, for whatever you European killers, raping pirates did to people of color, that shall/must you receive" soon enough!!!
Genesis 15:13-14, marked by HR1242, HR40, Alkebulan uniting itself, China & Russia respect alliance support against the western falling powers of control, Deuteronomy 29:1-7, Isaiah 14:20-21 justice in motion via Obadiah 1:2-9, Revelation 18:4-6 Black's leaving & preparing for what must be, as Revelation 14:8 unfolds before your very eyes, should prompt everyone of European British pirating of blacks to their knees in repentance!!!
Here comes the real YHW judgements of western greedy inhuman bigoted murderers & their children crimes to pay!!!!
IT’s emotional blackmail … and unfortunately the inner city wine bar woke liberals fall for it every time!
It’s ridiculous how blind the woke are to their hypocrisy…. many go on protests wearing clothes and shoes the sl@ve class in Asia made! 😅
@@kathleenrose3545 People like her are getting a bit desperate now. They've tried all the guilt-trip stuff. A joke in itself. Why should I apologise for something a distant relative might have done. Likewise, I can't take credit for anything great they might have done either.
Would this woman be here today without the past?
No!
@@StarLightPlanets exactly. This is going on everywhere. So sick of these people, never happy, so go home again.
@@vivrowe2763 I Agree, They Have That Option, Go Back Home !
That’s a dumb ass question! God creates, not man!
Douglas needs a standing ovation for his statement.
Hear Hear.
No he doesn't. He's factually wrong, just an arrogant racist that thinks he's smart.
Douglas speaking sense and saying what we would all like say.
@@garypautard1069because you may not want to admit it, but you are very racist
You didn't appreciate what that scholarly black woman said?
I'm an American with Scottish, Ulster Irish, Welsh and English heritage and I'm still a little irked at Rome and Anglo-Saxons and Norse and Irish and English and Scotii and the Normans.................. 😂❤🇺🇸🏴🇮🇪🏴🏴
They don't want justice, they want money.
Always do. Race grifting is a profession.
And once they get it they will want more or something else. This will set a dangerous precedent if they cave to it.
BLM in a nutshell
@@ziggywiggThey ain't gettin' sheeeeiiiittttt nikka
It's symbolic. You don't understand..
Do we still hold Germany and Japan to the fire every day. No, it got sorted and we moved on. There must be many people with much more recent grievances that we have moved on from. Cannot undo history, it was very messy.
I'm an Irishman and, to this day, the hurt is deep. Everytime I see a potato I break down and cry. Feels like the famines were only yesterday! Be it boiled, baked or roasted, the tears flow.. Chips are even worse, because they look like skinny, malnourished potatoes. Reparations now!
Sounds like you’ve got a chip on your shoulder. Stop digging up the past … I mean potatoes
I sympathize with your anguish. I can't look at them either, it's very painful. When I'm in Tesco's I have to bravely fight my way past the potatoes, even the sweet potatoes, with tears in my eyes to get to the carrots. I know my children eat potatoes behind my back and it's tearing my family apart .The trauma is with me every day. I really need counselling but I don't have the money. I desperately need a payout, sorry I mean reparations.
😂😂😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
😂😂😂
Ah, yes--the taters. Boiled, mashed, in a stew--I cry every time.
What would the sane world do without a Douglas Murray?
She literally chose to ignore everything he said. His argument was so well articulated and concise. But she just completely chose to ignore it and made herself look foolish
Exactly. She Said she wants an apology...ask the African nations to apologise First and See what Happens.
Any black person when you try and talk about slavery
She had no other option tbh, her argument was owned and had no comeback.
It’s because people like her don’t like hearing that facts are not feeling and hurt feelings do not change facts. The fact remains whether she likes it or not slavery is not a white phenomenon nobody ancestors regardless of skin color stand guiltless or victimless. The word slave actually comes from the slavs, who inhabited a large part of Eastern Europe who were all white were taken as slaves by the Muslims of Spain during the ninth century AD right now in Africa there still slave owners who are infiltrating the pain of slavery on people and the slave owners.
I’m black and everything the man said is true. Human beings are evil every where including Africa
‘Glammed up’ Paula makes her living by dissing the country that feeds her and pays her wages. Completely disingenuous.
Wages paid to her hairdresser could support an African family for a year.
@@richardshortall5987 Well, how do you glam up? ;0)
Exactly. Don't know what the word respect, grateful and thank you means. I doubt she even use it or can spell it.
Victims will always want to be victims and be 'owed by society'. Douglas absolutely nailed it.
Cassius Clay was the first woke leftist
Pretty weak hammer 🥴
Tell the Jews to forget about the so called holocaust
From west Africa
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Absolutely right. It is the last refuge of the "no-hoper". Better and more efficient to change cultures that don't expect effort from the next generation or make decisions that trend toward success, than to celebrate lawlessness and stupidity and continuously reduce the effectiveness of police powers to combat crime through selective reporting and bias from complicit multi national corporate media that want to protect the funnelling of cheap labour into the west to continuously depress wages. As a life long high tax-payer in my country, I really think that this concept of society being open to those who quite obviously don't want to be a functioning contributor is outdated. Fling the openly hateful, openly free-loading dead-wood into the wilderness where they can steal and kill each other without bothering me while I'm busy trying to provide for my wife and kids and instil in my children a work ethic and the ability to make good decisions out of the options available.
Exactly, Those Palestinians claiming to be victims of a Zionist invasion of their land as a direct result of Colonialisim!
Palestinians are just playing victim! Israel never killed any children, never invaded Lebanon and never ethnically cleansed Palestinians and Lebanese.
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If you hate the country you are in, leave!
As a Nigerian man living in Nigeria but keenly attentive to events around the globe, I am deeply appalled at some of the madness I hear my fellow Africans regurgitate on international media on matters like slavery and reparation, colonialism and migration. From my perspective, I don't even think any African with a shred of pride in him or herself should be running off to Europe to escape the disgustingly hard living conditions in Africa. Yes, there is wholesale misgovernance, there is corruption and decay everywhere one looks, but remember, we hurled the same Europeans out of our shores claiming we were adults enough to manage our own affairs and govern ourselves. It didnt take long for everyone to see all of that was BS. But now guess where "our tired, our poor, and our huddled masses" troop to: it is to the same Europe that we thumbed our noses at not more than a half a century ago. I have told as many as would care to hear me that we Africans are mighty lucky I'm not European else I would've driven every last man-jack migrant back with the helpful advice to go back to their god-given land and to run their affairs there. The fact that the white man in trying to make amends (though I wonder what for) has flung open his doors, is no justification to subject him to such discomfort in his own god-given land. We all know what would've happened to any migrant doing the same any other place in the world. Our arrogance and temerity when we should be meek and compliant in another man's land is what kills me. And I must repeat that every black African migrant in Europe is mighty lucky I'm not European else they would've learnt a lesson in manners by now.
Well said.
Whites are on a path to non-existent, brought to you by Jews
I'm a Nigerian too and I agreed in totallity to every single Alphabet you brought together to frame the comment.
It can never be said better!
It stems from BLM in the US, a lot western countries are influenced culturally by the US so we end up transporting their tribal issues to our countries. The Uk is far more diverse and possibly too accepting and its created a rod for our own backs. You give people an inch and they will take a mile and massage themselves in Victim culture
Absolutely well said sir.
Once again , So basically those who did not commit the crime shall pay those who are not the victims ...
Canadians pay for the atrocities attached to the culling and desecration of the natives still.
its the left playbook. Same with student loans they tried to force onto us... those who already paid o never went to college forced to pay someone elses student loans.
And on top of that they ignore those that enslvd their ancestors and sold/shipped them off in the first place, which happen to be very much black! Not to mention the Arabs who traded even more b ppl.
By a leftie wokes logic.. yes
U fell to mention Jim Crow and racist policies after slavery? The whole world is subjugated by white supremacy. Those three countries are only powerful because of slavery.
It’s funny how Douglas nailed it and she is still hateful. It seems no amount of logic will convince a "victim"
It's because she's ideologically possessed. There's no reasoning.
@@everyman1 100 percent ! These people don’t need convincing , they need a paradigm shift
Especially a 'victim' who has their eye on the money. Some states in the US are considering paying out $1 million per ( black) person in 'compensation'. Good luck with that.
I think her hair is covering the massive chip on her shoulder
She is hateful because that's all they know.
Apologising for the past is ridiculous. Different time, different values, different people.
Great. We're not going to make Democrats pay because they historically enslaved people to run their southern plantations are we?
Actually its worse than that. That "past" isnt even properly understood because when you actually look at how the UK ended slavery for itself and many other countries by force its something to be very proud of
@user-SubvurzIV how many times are you going to move the goal post and redefine what words mean in order to suit your social agenda? When the "prison industrial complex slavery" is ended, what is the next "slavery"? "Low wage slavery"? "Not enough paid leave slavery"?
The only slavery that persists in the Western world is weak minds being shackled to an ideology that's only acceptable to someone without the capacity or moral integrity to take accountability for their own lives. No one is coming to save you, and no one should. Can't provide value to the village, don't eat at the village table. End of discussion.
@user-SubvurzIV Is that your alternative history as taught by you ? If anything the prison system in the Uk is too soft, too many crimes are ignored and sentencing too short mainly because they have too few prison spaces. By Disparity i assume this is another example of what we have been talking about ? Victim culture, self pity ? Lol I hate to break it to you pal, if most of the people committing crimes are one ethnic group or another then they are going to deservedly "dis-proportionally" dominate in prison.
Are you proud of your country's achievements? I'm proud of the UK role in world war two, the industrial revolution etc. Is that as silly? I didn't do anything personally there either. What's the difference?
As a Scotsman, I fully support the motion for reparations for the Viking invasion of my country in the 9th century. Scandinavians, get your wallets out (PayPal will also work).
The problem is that people seek empowerment by being the victims, or being "offended" instead of by their own merit. I suppose it's less work that way.
Actually, it IS probably harder! It takes a LOT of energy to maintain that false 'rage', day in, day out!
The victim card seems to trump all others...for now. But I sense old whitey's starting to get fed up with this crap.
The problem is BAD government that even listens to this crap!
yea because Australia/Australians have everything off of their own merit
right 🙄
the delusion is real
Comes with that race sadly. They haven’t accomplished or invented anything of note and never will. I wish we could just be done with them altogether. Our countries would certainly benefit
No one does it better than Douglas! A great intellect plus a great knowledge of history.
why dont this turdy bitch eff off to another country .....is she getting wealthy on my tv licence
Exactly, Those Palestinians claiming to be victims of a Zionist invasion of their land as a direct result of Colonialisim!
Invading oil/gas/gold/uranium rich countries to take what they have Never happens/is happening.🫡
Palestinians are just playing victim! Israel never killed any children, never invaded Lebanon and never ethnically cleansed Palestinians and Lebanese.
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And captain of the debating society at Uni, no doubt.😁
We need more murrays speaking the truth !
At least 1 of my ancestors was thrown on a prison ship approx 180 years ago & forced to leave England & come here to Australia, all for allegedly stealing a loaf of bread! A bit harsh, I want an apology, from the Brits🏴
As usual, Douglas advances a devastating critique of humbuggery.
Do you agree with what Douglas states?
On the contrary, Murray is the ultimate humbug and a thoroughly nasty bigot. 😮😊
@@doriangray6985 Yes, on the issue of confected reparation for slavery. I say that with an abundant awareness of of what a pernicious evil it was and continues in the form of human trafficking and exploitation of refugees.
Spot on Douglas. I want reparations for how I was treated at school by the teachers who bullied me and prevented me from getting the grades I wanted and making me suffer by significantly impacting my life. I want £2 million from them. Where does this end? Douglas spoke with such finesse. Amazing.
I want reparations for all the years of bullying in primary and secondary school and the workforce I suffered for being Neurodiverse
@@Dancestar1981 Hhah. Exactly
@@Dancestar1981Same here.
I want compensation from the native Australian guy who stole my t shirt during gym class in 1985 - I knew it was mine because it didn't fit him the next time i saw it on him.
It’s an inherent problem with this race. Seems no matter where you go, they are always so miserable. Honestly if they hate where they live so much be it America, UK, Australia etc then why don’t they all just go back to Africa?
Why does Douglas Murray have the ability to reach into my mind, grab hold of my ideas and express them so much more eloquently than I ever could!?
🙂you're no the only one 😁🫡🙏
He is brilliant
He tells it as it is 👍
Because he is in control of emotions very well lot of debates he has done he knows he who can control emotions will win battle of words
Because you're both Idi0ts!
Douglas Murray hit the nail on the head, and I'm pretty sure many people in Britain would agree with him. Will Paula be looking for an apology from the African countries that sold her people into slavery? Will Paula also be looking for reparations from those same African countries? I very much doubt it, because she knows full well that she would be wasting her time and it would be far easier in shaming Britain into paying up. I don't see why people who have never owned slaves should pay reparations to people who have never been slaves.
If You Were Wrongfully Convicted Of A Crime That You Didnt Do/Commit And Ended Up Spending 10 Years In Prison For That Wrongful Conviction Or If You Were Diagnosed With A Terminal Cancer ♋ As A Result Of Your Work Place Negligence Would You Be Justified In Murdering Innocent 😇 People To Get Back 🔙 At Society For Those Injustices?.
@@cadejust6777 No, but I also don't see the relevance of your reply to my comment.
@trevorcarre6452 And yet, the United Kingdom took out a loan to pay reparations to slave owners in 1833 and only paid off the debt in 2015. So any British person (including black Brits) who paid taxes up to 2015, contributed to the slave owners' reparations. Why aren't you outraged about that!?
@@bburg0408exactly
@@bburg0408 So you are saying the UK paid to free the slaves? And they paid so much that it took 178 years to pay off the debt. Sounds pretty altruistic.
I don't get the whole apology thing like it makes no sense to apologise for something you had absolutely no involvement in.
Exactly ever since our governments apologised unnecessarily thieve dickheads have been coming out of the woodwork and causing trouble
Or, be apologized to for something that never happened to them.
Because once we do, you know what is next…..
And yet today's British taxpayers, who had no personal involvement with slavery, were on the hook until recently for paying off British public debt incurred when the government compensated slaveowners in order to abolish and set slaves free. Murray knows this but such historical facts would get in the way of his grifting.
They want that free money. Nothing more to it than that. I say put ‘em all in prison
My grandma lived on a plantation in Louisiana, I'm 34... we fell behind because of this shit. Your bitch ass grandma was free and slanging pussy
Except it costs an average of $200K per person to have them in prison....
Exactly. They're self entitled. That's all they are
Yeah, because imprisoning people you disagree with always works out well.
That’s where they belong
God bless USA & England. Brothers forever. ❤️
I literally just nodded all the way through Douglas's speech...spot on
Me too.
I think the lady can appologise to the british people for allowing her family to come over here and then her ingratitude of the life she now has and calling us racists. I dont need to change or appologise to anyone.
Well said 💯
What LADY?
But you ARE racists, your history of trying to colonize half the world until just a few decades ago proves it.
As a black Caribbean person I'm sorry I have to listen to this woman defend a point that goes nowhere except I'm black and I blindly agree. Mr. Murray needs way more airtime....I always enjoy his comments.
That bloody woman was so infuriating I had to stop watching
Yeah, because black Africans are all related, right? Douglas Murray clearly needs to play catch-up. Hasn't he heard that Africans are the most genetically diverse people on Earth? Also, would he refer to WW1 and WW11 as Europeans killing their brothers and sisters?
yes. insufferable jackass.
As a multiracial Caribbean person, I concur with - bang on! Used that term as a teenager, late 70s - 80s, in the Land of Many Waters!
@@SexRealist301 Well, it was only a short clip, thank goodness, but she's pathetic trying to be relevant. Douglas Murray should be on his own show.
Douglas, you hit the nail right on the head! For goodness sake look at what our ancestors did to the Native Americans. Living on a reservation isn't FREEDOM. They had no choice. They are living with this in real time. Everyday.
But of course, there's no comparison to people who have ancestors who were slaves two centuries ago. Much, much worse. Yes, sarcasm.
Tired. Tired. Tired.
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" The most virtuous countries are presented as the worst countries." Boy did he nail THAT! Murray is tough debater. I would not want to go up against him. Cheers to Douglas Murray.
Read 'the war on the west'
80 years ago WW2 happened. 30 years before that WW1. The issues in the middle east or india are because of europe. For goodness sakes, read a book.
Yeah, everyone says Britain, France and America are evil for practicing slavery in the past but don’t call out the Arab or Ottoman slave trades. The Great Wall of China and the Giza pyramids were built by slaves too! And nobody especially calls out how brutal and barbaric the Japanese were during WWII! It’s a complete double standard. The west is the most tolerant part of the world today. I’ve been to parts of the world where being gay is illegal! It’s shocking!
@@fiveplates right because the Ottoman empire & the Persians were not hunting Christians and slaughtering them long before that🙄🙄🙄
@@fiveplates U're are largely right. BUT the countries in the middle east or on the indian subcontinent can fix their own problems now, today - nobody but themselves are stopping them after all. But they won't. Also some if not most of the issues predate colonial times - such as incompatible religions & cultural norms. The colonial powers just kept the lid on those issues as letting it erupt would - if nothing else - impact on their profits, but it still prevented the bloodshed we see today.
Spot on piers , we’re all sick to death of this so called hurt that happened hundreds of years ago
"I''m a victim! Give me money!"
Exactly the attitude of these feckin people
Why should anyone apologize for something they weren't a part of and to those who never experienced it. It's insane and flat-out ridiculous!
Because British tax payers only ended paying the loan the British government took to compensate the slave owners in 2015.
It's because we have a great social system. Paula, apologising makes no difference because these people want money and power, full stop.
All of that without giving a ... on the people that built the Europeans countries where they have decided to live and have beneficiated from the generosirty, openess and solidariety of said countries and peoples.
She knows he's right and she has no argument, "justice" is for people who have actually suffered.
Jim Crow victims still alive, buddy.
How would you know? She wasn't given an opportunity to speak. She was shouted down. The Black woman. The two white men were given all of the air time.
@@jazzmack7647 She spoke there & has spoken many times before - she's got NOTHING to respond with - just a whine that she's "oppressed"...she will never give up these ridiculous claims because she's PAID to defend them.
@@jazzmack7647 Opportunity? She twisted Murray's words in her very opening statement. Not a shred of logic bur lying outright about what he said. 😄 . Talk about a wasted opportunity. That's on her.
Exactly, Those Palestinians claiming to be victims of a Zionist invasion of their land as a direct result of Colonialisim!
Invading oil/gas/gold/uranium rich countries to take what they have Never happens/is happening.🫡
Palestinians are just playing victim! Israel never killed any children, never invaded Lebanon and never ethnically cleansed Palestinians and Lebanese.
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FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT! THANK YOU DOUGLAS MURRAY YOU LEGEND!!!!!!
Exactly, Those Palestinians claiming to be victims of a Zionist invasion of their land as a direct result of Colonialisim!
Invading oil/gas/gold/uranium rich countries to take what they have Never happens/is happening.🫡
Palestinians are just playing victim! Israel never killed any children, never invaded Lebanon and never ethnically cleansed Palestinians and Lebanese.
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Douglas Murray is thoroughly acquainted and knowledgeable about the great achievements and enormous gifts the West has given to the world. He makes no apologies, nor dwells in self loathing or guilt. I am with him in this matter. The fact that people go out of their waythese days, to a preposterous degree, order to lavish praise other cultures, no matter how miserably primitive and repellent they are, in order to score points in the game of virtue signalling, is a tedious and tiresome exercise, that has grown old, stale and cringeworthy. No other area in the world has created the vast storehouse of cultural riches produced in the West. And yes, it's one of the reasons so many desire to come to the West, in order to indulge in those riches, which are sorely lacking in their native countries.
She wants ppl that never owned slaves or weren't alive to apologise 😅😅😅😅 shes insane
If I was black and not doing very well, I'd be grifting on it too.
Most of the ones that start this crap are not even black!
What's your excuse if theirs is genetic?
He’s doing great 👍
@@usnen I fell off my potty when I was a baby.
I agree.. The other day, someone said TIN to me!!! REPARATION$ PLEA$E !!!!!
douglas nailed it !,
Douglas is unbeatable. He knows his history and facts and does not fabricate stories.
He does fabricate the notion that the US and UK are the most virtuous… lmao. That’s the marketing: how many gvts have yours ovethrown in the last 80 years alone? What a joke. The migrants come bc they know english and french… why? Bc those countries colonised them and now they speak it, and bc theyre following the wealth that has been drained from their countries.
Love these guys. He destroys an emotional argument with facts.
He thinks the Ottoman Emprie is still a thing. It hasn't existed in over a century
Somebody failed geography.@@ranwolf7650
@@ronnie_5150An absolute Jodrell Banker. What Public School spewed him out I wonder. Millions of Europeans caught up by Barbary coast slavers. Millions? Really? British taxpayers finally paid off the £30 that was borrowed to compensate the slave owners for the loss of their property in 2016!! Suckers. But hey, circle jerkers on this thread. Keep toadying up to the descendants of the ruling classes of the day. What a conga line of suckholes.
Maybe Africa should also pay since they sold their own kin to the rest of the world. Oh wait that would be basically also blaming themselves.
We shouldn't apologise, they should say thank you!
You can only apologise for what you’ve done in your lifetime, not a time we didn’t live in.
💯Agree, I’m sick and tired of the Paula’s of this world
@@janbrown9195because your kids are not being shot down in the streets for no reason, your continent you should call home has not been pillaged to make someone else's rich. The only after effect of slavery you have witnessed is the spoils of it. We are meant to forget what happened and just move on, let you guys whitewash history again make it look like it's just normsl because that's just what everyone was doing. Imagine if a Catholic priest felt up your child and when you went to complain to the Pope he says, well it was a long time ago, all the priests where doing it so you should just suck it up and move on. Are we still not getting enquiries and apologies for Hillsborough disasters, the head of the police force then wouldn't be the same guy as now would he? Institutions and nations have to be held accountable when they carry out such hineous acts. I guess you think the Jews should move on aswell because Hitler is dead now and it was a different time we didn't live in?
But then we shouldn't benefit from that time period either.
@@Noblility - Explain how 'we' are benefiting from that today. And explain why only white people should not benefit from it as everyone who lives in the UK profits from its history just like inhabitants from every country in the whole world profit form their respective histories.
British looted our country India for 300 years. I don't want people who are living in England right now to appolize for it beacuse they are not there and I was not there stop with virtue signalling it is disingenuous.
This Murray guy is making a few pretty solid points…
i am black and i say: Thank you Douglas Murray! =) it's hard to find good sense like yours these days!
Every one of us on the planet are here, each and everyone of us, because of the past, if the past had never happened, none of our bloodlines would exist.
If this is the case then is Africa going to chip in for selling those slaves 🤔
Why the hell should we apologise for something we weren't guilty of?!
because we're hopeless pu****s???!!
ffs people, how about standing your ground?!
we have NOTHING to be ashamed of. history is brutal. life is brutal. and the world is NOT your mom.
We shouldn't and we won't.
Well there is one argument that you’re living the lifestyle you are today on foot of previous slavery, invasion and theft of land etc. England wouldn’t be what it is today without it. That said, I think it’s wrong that the focus is always on the same countries when others did it too.
Would people that identify as Democrats ever apologize for their kind enslaving people to keep their southern plantations running?😢
@@BASSER81 How far should we go back in time back? You could also say that we are living the lifestyle we are living today because large meteors hit the planet.
So basically I must apologise because I’m white. Got it.
Like he said, slavery still goes on in Africa. But people like her would never talk about that…
Because shes a racist.
And she owns a phone that was manufactured by Chinese slaves using minerals mined by African slaves
Of course she wouldn’t because that would fly in the face of her victimhood status. Getting a dopamine rush out of being a false victim is the chief form of racism practiced by people of color on this planet. I’m still trying to figure out how Black people reconcile the claim that they are our equals, with the claim that they are subject to every oppressive whim perpetrated by the evil white scourge.
How is that relevant tho??
@@aliciafletcher9739because the topic and debate is about slavery? Lol
The day my country starts paying reparations is the day I stop paying taxes.
It won't happen. Our politicians might be useless but even they can see such a move would be disasterous and let in the far-right through the back door.
@@vordman shove your far right bs up where the sun doesnt shine.
@@vordmanThe far right? Who??
@vordman you mean 'populist right'. I know it's fashionable to label any right wing opinion as 'far right' these days, but the actual far right in AUS/UK is vanishingly small.
@@Markielee72Actually global politics is becoming more far right and the brainwashed US think anyone slightly left or centrist is a Socialist or communist because they don’t know what socialism is ! I mean they think Bidens socialist !! Insane !!
Douglas: Delivers crushing assessment.
Paula: So what you’re saying is…..
We’ve been down this road before, we’re wise to your tricks.
They just use that phrase as an excuse to completely change what was actually said 😮💨
You should never have to apologize for something you had absolutely no hand in doing.
You had no hand in it yet your were the benefactors.
@@newjerseyselfdefense6199 What a load of nonsense, everyone has the exact same rights and opportunities, if you are doing poorly, you have nothing to blame but your poor decisions.
@@kerravon4159 yeah if you want to ignore the realities of where white folks started in this country with their economic tribalism and group economics, also if you want to ignore the effects of
Redlining
Blockbusting
Jim Crow
Imminent Domain
Urban renewal
1955 highway commission act
Cointelpro
The purging of AA communities like
Tusla
Ocoee
Elaine
Slocum
Wilmington etc
Denial of FHA loans
Racial housing covenants
Realtor steering
Low ball appraisals for AA home owners
Mass incarceration / war on drugs
And that fact that’s white folks have always disproportionally controlled all the economic opportunities - and burned out all black competition.
Do you want to continue this conversation?
@@newjerseyselfdefense6199how are we the “benefactors”?
Nobody ancestors regardless of their skin color stand guiltless or victimless when it comes to slavery and right now in Africa there are black people who still buy, own and sell slaves
I owe them nothing
I'll pay reparations when they show me their lash and shackle scars, trying to leech off those who did actually suffer is the most disgusting and shallow thing imaginable.
Think you will find that those subject to slavery have died. They would be 170 at least
Uh, what about the hundreds of thousands still alive today day that lived under Jim Crow? You're nothing but an arrogant clown who probably thinks we're in an equal society. Get a clue.
@user-SubvurzIV No they're demanding, ask implies civility
@@Amathusukx slavery was wrong but time to move on
@user-SubvurzIV Slavery was very wrong but time to move on
Douglas Murray always spitting FACTS - ❤️ him!!!
Imagine being born on this world, you've done nothing but good in your life and suddenly some group expect an apology from you because something happened before you where born 🤣 these people are something else.........
Complete aholes
Don't have to imagine it, I hear it constantly
@@73N5H1 I live in The Netherlands and even our King (King Willem Alexander) made a public apology for what happened in the past, things that didn't even happen in his lifetime. It is so cringe. I lost all respect for the people that demanded it and didn't even experienced these events themselves.
If you are literate, free (not a slave), and have one pair of shoes, you are in the 5% most privileged class in all of human history.
This is peak performance Douglas. Brilliant.
Douglas Murray is a National Treasure and a champion. Meanwhile, can that lady please explain how can anyone apologise for something they didn't do? (she obviously missed the bit where nobody who committed or suffered is alive).
Well said Douglas so so true we are sick and tired of people that keep on going on and on about the crap that went on hundreds of years ago 👍👍👍👍👍
This self-flagellating nonsense about the past should never have started in the first place.
Never participate in a ritual of humiliation
Douglas Murray is right on the money........ People need to move on and stop pretending they are victims
Douglas Murray completely nailed it. I always love listening to him ❤
Exactly, Those Palestinians claiming to be victims of a Zionist invasion of their land as a direct result of Colonialisim!
Invading oil/gas/gold/uranium rich countries to take what they have Never happens/is happening.🫡
Palestinians are just playing victim! Israel never killed any children, never invaded Lebanon and never ethnically cleansed Palestinians and Lebanese.
🫡
She wants an apology so bad, she should go to Africa and demand one from the tribes that captured her and sold her to the Europeans. Some of My ancestors died fighting to end slavery in the civil war.
Then she can pay reparations to herself.
@user-SubvurzIVyeah, the Democrats have a habit of doing that.
All the freed slaves had an opportunity to return to their homelands, but they chose to stay. If you truly are descended from slaves, you should feel fortunate that they didn't return to Africa. Imagine what your life would be like if they had. Consider that before you say the word "reparations" again.
@user-SubvurzlV there is no outrage as the British were more than happy to free the slaves
The civil war wasn't fought to end slavery.
Islam is Hamas and Hamas is Islam LOL jajajajajajajajajajajajajajaja
Trying to extort money from the government is a federal crime! Give them the maximum term of imprisonment.
It's a gift like they al have been. See BLM.
😊😊😊😊😊 2:59 pp 3:21 3:21 3:22 😊😊
Oh, if we did that we would have to lock up half of the country! Public schools teachers around the country do it almost yearly. Senior citizens on Socialist Security? "We will have to eat cat food if you don't give us more cash" sure sounds like extortion to me.
LOL
Bloody loved what Douglas said. Paula then tried to twist his words.
As a Canadian I'm tired of it. Every year on CANADA day (July 1st) for the past ten years there are calls to "cancel" it. Because you know, we're horrible people. Things done hundreds of years ago by people not even related to me were horrible and yeah that sucks. Instead of celebrations I guess we should all cry and hate ourselves... I'm tired of it too. Its disgusting
I’m sick of the shit they’re pulling in Australia
I am sick of being told Britain is shitty. I am proud of my country (mostly)! Sending admiration and respect to my Canadian and Australian cousins 👋
By their standards, all countries should cancel all national celebrations since all were formed by war, genocide, and colonization. Things could be worse. I’m also Canadian, and my family is from Portugal. If one views Portuguese history, before Portugal became a country, there were indigenous people living there (the Celtic people and the Iberian people) who were essentially obliterated by Roman and Moorish invasions. The Iberian language and culture is gone. Much like the decimation of ancient Egyptian people and their culture and language (which would have been completely lost if not for the discovery of the Rosetta Stone). Those cultures weren’t given reservations or a chance to keep their traditions anything. I’m not minimizing the loss for the indigenous people of Canada, especially with the residential schools scandal, but the history of humanity is filled with these stories, except that in most nations, the indigenous were just wiped out and/or assimilated.
@@doggieclaudeit is shite though, not because of its past but because of its present
@@73cidaliabro the natives in Canada where the cucks, they seen a superior force to kill thier enemies and bent over for it. They deserve nothing, but Canada coddled them, fuqqem
My parents always taught me to treat everyone as well as possible and to be there for others. Pain is real. I’ve more recently found out that some Arab countries have slavery and it’s devastating cause I’d never heard of it before a few years ago. I grew up knowing all kinds of people from different backgrounds. Some where kind and some weren’t. Some were of the same country as me and they were terrible.
What do we do in an unfair world to better get along?
Btwn 15000 and 50000 women and children are forced into sex slavery in the USA each year. What are you talking about?
@@fandie42 This is done by illegal immigrants and cartels. Just look at the mugshots. A picture is worth a thousand words.
Don’t Judge our Ancestors’ Actions by Today’s Standards, you should be learning by the past to make sure that the bad actions aren't repeated. Well said Douglas Murray.
Douglas Murray is right about all of it, AND we are so sick of the constant talk about this subject.
We don't give af. I'm sure most of the slaves were sick of being in bondage for hundreds of years too.
you can never do enough to placate the Blacks. The hypocrisy is the wealthy entertainers do not go back to the ghetto.
@@taroman7100 Reporting you, racist.
You're sick of hearing that your relatives were bad people? That atrocities and crimes were committed? So what's to prevent it from happening again?
@@doug6723 Have a lovely day. ❤
Always nice to see a well to do British person of colour making statements regarding slavery, without being subject to it
I would have taken her back to the slave traders and asked for a refund 😂😂😂
@@cliveo3 They would have demanded payment to take her back!🤣
and the people with their hands out having been subject to it either.
She's living a better life than I am being able to live in the UK then myself who is a white South African. I would love to trade places with her but I bet you she would never want to come live here
The British were subject to slavery , from the Vikings ,Romans , Norman's, ect ect, a lot of the slaves from Africa were sold by their neighbours in the next village to the slave traders ,our present generations have nothing to apologise for we have no control over the past. All these descendent's of slaves have they stopped to look at the country's their ancestors came from and ask themselves would they have been doing if they were still living in those country's,
Not that I think slavery was a good thing but we all went through it at one time but most of us don't think of ourselves as victims. The past is the past where it belongs.
I usually get annoyed when Piers interrupts his guest but its very clear that there was no reason to allow her to speak a word of her nonsense. Well done, Doug you nailed it as per usual. Its a shame we still have to suffer people like her
I’m Irish, and I demand £1 billion for my ancestors’ pain
would you like in cash,gold,or diamonds ,sir.😊😊👍👍
My family is both English and Irish. I would like my English side to pay reparations to my Irish side. Never mind those people are all dead and we are all now mixed, someone better pay up!
People like her have victim mentality.
I'll tell you what, you inflicted Westlife, Boyzone and Jedward on us....well call it quits.
@@aalan4296 😆😆
Nobody cares, go get drunk somewhere, ginger.
Gotta love Douglas Murray spot on everytime.🇬🇧
Can't wait till the flag of britain gets censored cuz it has a history of colonization
First comes apology, then comes guilt and then the money starts flowing to these suffering liars. It's about getting undeserved reparations. It's always about the money!
Agreed it's greed.
Then there’s an industry built up around dispensing the money. And soon those getting paid start to see racism everywhere. And those hoping to get paid start siding with those alleged victims.
I want reparations as scottish person for England's invasion of Scotland in the 13th century. I need apology for hurt.
Slave owners were NOT compensated. They were paid for their human cargo, which they insisted was their right as slavery was at that time a legitimate trade worldwide. The British people bought those slaves their freedom!
and along with enforcing the ban on slavery, one can truly state that Great Britain engaged in tangible action, moral deeds, that speak far more forcefully than hollow apologies centuries later.
They turn a good dead into something bad just by using manipulation. It teaches us that it doesn't matter what we do anyway.
And still GB is bad, but the African nations that enslaved their own people and sold them are the good guys.
We live in a 🤡 world, u can't make this shit up.
And as Douglas said, there's a lot of slavery around the world still taking place, and the African continent is no exception
the descendants of slaves are in a much better position today than the descendants of the ones selling their own people
The british started the transatlantic slave trade and hence should be commended for ending the slave trade? is that your argument? How about if someone is raped everyday for 10 years, should the person who stops raping be commended too?
Well said Douglas, at last someone speaking up for common sense. Douglas just tells it like it is, he’s absolutely right
Douglas is always spot on. I love him.
Well said, Douglas !