Workhorse Performance On Coyotes Copying GTR's, Calling Out America, and 1Stockf30 Race
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- Опубліковано 20 січ 2024
- In todays episode we sit with Tony, Bradlee, and John over at Workhorse Performance home of some of the fastest GTR's In the Country. They breakdown the GTR platform and some of the similarities it has to the Ford Coyote platform. They also break down the Audi R8 platform as well and give us some pretty useful information for those who are looking to build an r8. They also discussed the most controversial race between 1stockf30 and their red GTR. This one was loaded with information and addresses all of what has never been heard before!
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So moral of the story from the last 5 podcasts is NEVER race one stock and his boys, because they clearly cannot pay up
Black box was called g-force lol
Yeah I was planning on racing them guys once my car is built im only doing it for fun now that is sad. Same people we look up to in the car community always got something bad about em
Never street race NYC homies, they cry too much, it's always been that way
What happened is they got finessed. At first when you say something like "Ok, run it back." instead of getting your money it shows weakness. The other boys just said bet and kept up the nonsense until they left with the money. Even if they would loose 9/10 they can keep pushing it back until they win or the other guys car blows up. You gotta get the cams set up right and have no discrepancies. It does sound like a waste of time. Got hustled.
@@joshgross8741 workhorse was simply trying to race all the excuses out of one stock so they would get payed but one stock never plan to pay from the beginning. Finessed/robbed.
You need to get Jon Lund Jr or Alejandro flores on here to preach the gospel of correct coyote information.
Alejandro had a great interview
I actually felt bad for the third wheel......🙏 John we see you homeboy💪 the quiet one's are usually the fastest💯They don't want the 💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨💨😁
Wym
Is the quiet guy fast
My thoughts bro! Why even bring homie🤣
It’s like they stuck him in the corner. Probably the man behind all of it.
@@phantomlimb5649 transmission guy he talks towards end of
Please have Alejandro Flores and Jon Lund Jr on here to set the coyote and Ford record straight once and for all. Coyote copied GTR my ass 🤣 that dude hating hardcore 😂
Lund racing FTW!!!
That shit makes no sense
@mogulme6190 what makes no sense?
He was just joking
I support flores
Alex and Jon Lund JR would destroy these guys, don't do that to em 😂
These dudes def be kissing each other at the shop
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lmaoooo weirdos for sure
says the dude who looks like he got nutted on by a smurf
Don’t hate because they a team… these guys are fast and ain’t scared to say it
😂😂
Tukes, you are absolutely crushing it with these podcasts. Definitely my new favorite channel & I look forward to every episode. I’d love to see an episode with sheepy or UGR.
Agreed best Car Podcast Period
Wait , they said the coyote copied the r35 ? Ford has had overhead cams since 96 , they have the same designed since the 90s and just keeped improving them . Before the r35 what designed did they have before that .....inline 6 motors . And they need a motech to add ghost cams while the coyotes do it with stock ecu . Tx2k and other drag events has been dominated by coyotes for years .
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Exactly, mustang had the 4.6l motor in 96, but the 4.6 has existed since 1990/1991. It was a 20yr evolution from the first 4.6 to the coyote in 2011
Their evidence is comparing a dyno graph and seeing that DOHC heads have similar flow 😂
@@ozzypawsborneprinceofbarkn3249 I wonder what they'd say when they see a K-series head flow and dyno graph lol
@slumygoat yeah big cappin yo more like for a Year lol
Saying that Ford copied the GT-R engine is kinda crazy.....especially since Ford proved that they could make a DOHC V8 that was capable of ridiculous power level through modification via the Terminator Cobra. When I lived in Texas back in 2002-2005, it was common to see 700-800HP Cobras (both Terminator and pre-Terminator) on the street racing Supras. The famous "Texas Outlaws" had a 600WHP minimum requirement in order to be a part of their crew. VVT was on the Lexus IS-F V8 also, which came out before the R35 GT-R....so Toyota copied them too?? LOL And that V8 was just as responsive to modifications as the Cobra was.....if anything, Ford followed Toyota's lead with VVT on DOHC V8's.........if you look at who was doing it first.....
Vvt has been around way before the ISF
@@chandlercameron9977what models?
@@IS3FIDDY_ 1988 lexus ls400 1989 civic vtec and many more way before that 1903 Cadillac runabout
They kinda copied the M156 from AMG
That wasn’t Toyota for the ISF Yamaha designed the 2URGSE
Ford has been doing overhead cam engines since 1996 which was usually reserved for their top performance models i.e Cobra & GT500. GTRs have been straight inline 6s until 2009. You can say they act similar when it comes to boost levels but copying? No sir. Ford just improved on what they have been doing for years. You really need interview someone from Lund Racing bro if you want to talk anything Coyote they hold the most records & have the most experience with that platform. Interview Alejandro Flores or John Lund Jr
Ford had dohc v8s before that, the ford gaa was 1100 cuin dohc v8 used in the sherman tank.
Gtr nut riders are a different breed lol
Facts, they need to interview Lund Sr who actually knows a thing or two about the coyote and just car shit
💯 % correct! These guys are either ignorant or are just running their mouths for the sake of running their mouths.
They also made a dohc v8 way back in 1963 for Indy car racing, it made about 750hp way back then.
At first I was like these dudes arrogant AF after watching the whole podcast they crack my up 😂 they killing the game. I liked this episode 💪
glad you enjoyed! 🙏
Team ru, they all need to run Danru
@StreetAlphaPodcast the black box on the dash was called g-force.. it told you force on launch 0-60 and quarter-mile. Looked like a speed detector kinda 😂
@@user-pn7zl3ei5sthere’s no point in running Dan rue. His gtr isnt anywhere near this level
Nope they are arrogant 😂
R.I.P to the 3rd dude in that far left chair. Did he even talk? Lmao?
He's probably the guy who builds the cars while the other brag about how fast they are...😄😄
@@tunanoketchup4285facts I was thinking the same thing.
@@sajsed2 🤭
He answered the question about the black box in the window
14:56 as I read this, and he looks at the camera like “you talking about me?!” 😂
Shout out from Tx. Love your podcast bro keep them coming
Appreciate it! 🙏🙏
Now I see why I haven’t had my car in a year…..my shop ppls doin podcasts 😂😂🤦🏻♂️
You too? A buddy of mine dropped his r35 off there over 2 years ago and it's still not finished.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@urs6onfuturas975pockets not deep enough should’ve never went there 💀
This was done after hrs just a fyi.
Homie about to find out what it’s like dealing with John Hennessey 😂😂
The V8 that the Nissan VR38 has the most in common with is actually McLarens M838T which itself is a derivative of the Nismo R390 GT1's VRH35Z which McLaren purchased under licence from Nismo.
I think what they mean when they said ford "copied" the GTR is the not the DOHC layout, but the main advantage that layout affords you - Twin, Independent Control of the Valve events (Ti-VCT). It's why the Coyote's respond so well to boost and why the can make so much power with stock cams. When you can control both independently, you can swing each cam the opposite direction - you can reduce overlap down low to gain torque, and add overlap in the mid-top for even more power.
Nissan has been using VCT since 1987, Ford didn't start until 2004. The Coyote DOES closely resemble how the Japanese build V8's - lower displacement, generally higher VE, Square or close to square bore/stroke, 4V per cylinder/DOHC, higher RPM focused power/torque etc.
Yeah...ford technology is far superior than Nissan. The thing that a mustang can do at its price point is unmatched.
Thanks for the breakdown🫡 didn’t know what they meant about that
@@LordJerinzabang for buck?!?!? Iron block ls family enters chat.
@@alecbollinger7748 right cause you got to pull it out of whatever graveyard 🪦 you found it in....do Frankenstein work to it just to make it make horsepower and hold it. It won't be fast in a Chevy so you got to find another car to put it in.... nothing cheap about that....and if you did make it "cheap" I'm pretty sure it's slow.
Lots of cars used VCT, what makes them think the Coyote copied the GTR specifically?
these dudes can build some bad ass gtrs but to say the coyote is a copy of the GTR motor gotta be the craziest thing ive ever heard. The coyote engine was developed from the old 4v mod motors that been in ford cars for the past 30 years. Id even go as far as to say the coyote platform is superior. bone stock gen2 and gen3s will live all day long at 1000 wheel and a sleeved rod a piston motor is good for 2k plus. stock heads and cams
John Mihovetz prepped 4.6 4V has been 5.88 at 256mph with an almost entirely oe parts engine. The Modular is killer too
Please bring on workhorse AND Jon Lund Jr. at the same time. We need someone challenging these horrendous claims that Ford copied Nissan 😂😂
Broo I'm super hype for y'all man!! Congratulations!!!💪💪💪💪💪💪
Bad ass podcast! Thanks!!!
Man Corbin Johnson has come a long way. I remember when he did Subaru tuning. Now he has a deal with Shelby and tunes gtrs. Love seeing the 350s and 500s outside of his shop. Amazing tuner
I love this channel!! minute 44 is GOLD!!!
So...skip Coyotes should just skip the S/Cs, and just get TTs. Comparing Coyotes to a GT-R is high praise. 👍
The early 90s modular DOHC was a 4.6l 300-320hp in the Lincoln town car and Lincoln coupe that was eventually used in the 96-02 cobra mustang except SVT version of that motor was hand built. Revved to 7,500 rpm I believe. The same relative powerband as the Early Coyote motor.
The modern GTR was a figment of the imagination when Ford started to release the modular 4.6 aluminum block DOHC which I BELIEVE the 5.0 Coyote is built in the same factory in Ontario as the old 4.6l from the early 90s.
Bro once I get my gtr these boys are building it... I freaking luv their vibe out of all the casts... even Dan rue
Best podcast yet from this show
I like these guys. Great podcast
The best episode that i have been waiting for. 🔥
Beautiful conversation this was well put together shout out to the work horse dudes and everyone’s favorite host our boy tokes 💪🏽
have you tried the turbosmart egate or straight gate. electrnocally controlled.
I would like to see them call out, frustrate, e.g., all-wheel-drive 😂
🙄🙄🙄🙄 they have to be some other civic that can step up, of the 1000s of civic only frustrate has to be the Honda guardian or Honda knight/savior . Kinda sad.
Miles maybe?
frustrate doesn't have the mph for the gtr
@@sajsed2 Speedfactory civic could give them the business
On the street 8th mile heads up make every foot count.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 “I’m definitely not sitting in that car” 🤣 that took me
This episode was GASSSSS
😮💨👌🏻👌🏻
Actually Coyote Didn’t Really Copy The GtR. People Forget That The Coyote Wasn’t The First Dual Overhead Cammed Mustang. The Terminator Cobra Which Came Out In 03-04 Was The First DOHC Mustang
Compare a 4g63 head to a Coyote head. They are extremely similar.
Can't really say that a GTR copied a Coyote when Ford has been doing dohc motors back when Nissan was still messing with inline 6s.
Classic GTR guys know 0- talk everything trying to be 100 not understanding ford has been setting bars since before the 80s modular motors made in 2003+ " Terminator" example, coyotes can chop with lockouts.
🥱🥱🥱 oding on copium
@@BigWetSucc awwwww IDC
Awesome video man, definitely would love to see some Lexus content! A good shop making good power!
"Bobby is not racist, he's the president of a predominantly black bikers club" 😂 son what
They exist lol
T1 Tony episode would be sick
We definitely need the honda Ep after this 😂 that's a big call out tryna violate the AWD civic crazy lol don't get me wrong gtr are fast but don't come at honda that's suicide mission
Amen brotha.
Frustrate will humble him
@@JaeRush1didn't he already?
U know damn well hondas are for zesty man that try to act straight
And u probably drive ur moms honda odyssey
Sick Pj!! That’s my old GTR yeah boi
"If it ain't trying to kill me, I don't want it"! Lol
Awesome vid. Gotta bring back 1Cock though 🔥🔥🔥
I love this crew they make me laugh. Keep on doing what you’re doing guys. Love you no Homo.
Curious if anyone knows any suggestions to the podcast for racers that have gotten caught or have crashed. Not looking to push the negative but it’s out there and it happens. Just would be cool to see if people quit or bounce back.
the third guy just sitting their waiting for a question or to get involved in the convo. got to get everyone talking and feel involved dude prob wanted to walk away but didn’t want to make it awkward.
I’ve been around seeing these guys race since 2013-2014 good dudes.
this might be the best one yet
Gtr festival in November at Texas motorplex will be a great event . Line up against some of the Aussie guys
Exactly what happened back in 96' 8n nasty city with Stokeless vs Drag-on someone didn't want to pay up and shizzz went down 😂
Nah these is some upstanding gentlemen I need some yt friends like this 😂💯
We need Kaiju on the podcast at this point lol his name comes up a lot.
I live in downtown Baltimore that’s cool that’s your a fire man. Hopefully I see you in the street
The reason you are here 1:15:00
Thank you
Thank you
It chops hard!
Meanwhile I'm thinking wow that 4 banger has an exhaust leak 😂
What color is the 3rd gtr from the right. Idk if I’m colorblind but I cannot tell if that is green or like a nardo grey. Looks nice
Grey
@@iLEAGL3thanks, yea I just literally got to a point in the video where they stated it’s “Arabian grey” a mercedes color
I see this guy in the middle talk and he just makes my day
Great podcast! Knowledgeable guys . HOWEVER… 1. Ford ain’t copy slack from Nissan lmao
2. And a coyote and VR38 ain’t nowhere near the same price range to build at any damn power level lol.
Other than that, great podcast.
Calling out AWD Honda’s is wild. We been spanking y’all 😂😂😂
U probably be taking showers with your sister still
Like who 😂
@@alexmotors4172He says everyone but their are literally only two hondas in existence that can play with GTRs and those hondas cost hundreds of thousands, Speed Factory and Frustrate that's it and all the honda boys will dick rid them like all hondas can do it lmao
@@alexmotors4172Texas killer gtr
I got a Mach 1 if you want to check it out. Saw in one of your previous videos with the dude that only works mustangs he said you might like it. I can drive it up so you can check it out to see if it's your thing.
Much respect for these guys 🫡 Everyone wants to win off of stips now and don’t want to actually win by beating somebody 🤦♂️
It funny that a 6 cylinder calling out a 5 cylinder the dollar for dollar just call out the R8
Harrisburg native here, been to Bobby’s Annual roast he throws for the club and others, he’s not from Perry county where there are racists, he’s far from it. He’s genuinely a good dude. That situation had absolutely nothing to do with race as in skin tone, as they said Bobby is a wild card, and like many men take no shit from no one. I’d ask so you’d allow someone to lock in with you, and when they have clearly lost, take the money and run, you’d be ok with that, I think not. Awesome podcast Tooks keep up the awesome work.
Appreciate you bro. Some people just don't understand, it's more the principle than anything. Respect goes along way, and them boys don't have none. I'll b the wild card. If your close to me you know wat it is💪💪
@@knuckleheadtv7155 indeed bro trust I know, the principle’s we live by is frowned upon in this new internet era, but mess around and get to the intersection of Fu#% around and find out, and suddenly your the bad guy, crazy.
Idk who bobby is but he sounds interesting. What’s his @ ?
Sounds like 1 stick got off lucky
Bobby is good people he just don't play no shit. He's a great business man but a g when need be.
Either platform is good. For a budget, the 5.0 coyote is the way to go for me. Got a 94 foxbody from a coworker, put a stock gen 3 460hp 5.0 with the 10spd. Timed the 0-60 at 3.3 seconds. That's without boost. Stock s550s do 3.9, so being about a 1k pounds less makes a difference. Boost, they can be 8 second cars easily in a 1/4.
you should link up with Midnight Performance or Pray performance next!
Man these gentlemen are so humble because of the work they have put in. How can anyone challenge them? More so why would anyone? I am enjoying watching this! Words can’t describe. Great vid! Thank you to everyone who made this happen! More so the ppl who aren’t seen! ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
awd for drag racing is the equivalent to T ball for baseball imo
I fw your message and yes you are right about a lot points and I used to think this, however a modern 1000cc bike is so fuckin unforgiving. And after owning one there’s not a chance I’d ever recommend one as a first bike. It’s an entirely different dynamic than driving a “fast car.” Mfs aren’t gonna want to hear this but sincerely buy something that’s suitable for your skill level. You’ll thank yourself for it in the end. You’re impeding on your development as a rider getting something 200hp+. Nothing wrong with 300s 650s 500s 400s 750s. They resale for great value. Easy to learn on. And can actually accelerate your development on a motorcycle period to get you on a 1000 quicker and be a more efficient rider. This throttle control talk is only a small part of riding. Nobody talks about how heavy these bikes are, what to do carrying too much speed into blind corners, how riding becomes more complex on a bigger bike etc. You don’t want to be that guy riding a 1000 in a group or around other bikers on a track and can’t handle it for shit because you never learned how to ride properly. Trust me. You’re putting your life at risk, other riders, and everyone around you.
Not them calling out 1Stock Lmao! Need to see them RUN IT!
lol i was part of the group that put asphalt in the pot holes.funny as night
Yooo did they turn homie in the back mic off lol
I am so happy I saw this Video.. I tried reaching out to Visconti tuning and was turned down, he didn't have time for me.
John wouldn’t even answer my email!! He’s a Jack ass!!
The guy in the middle seat looks like a guy from gone in 60 sec movie 😅😂
This is getting good.
How do you verify what these guys are saying?
They all text eachother before the podcast and said “ make sure u wear your Yeezys“ lol
"WAHP, WAHP, WAHP"
LMAO
Being from Maryland love seeing the local shops get their shine. I wanna see the red gtr run los_broke civic
Ugh… no the coyote is not a copy of the VR38DETT…. The BARRA 4.0l had a lot to do with the coyote development… both with head flow and variable DOHC timing. The first BA barramundi was introduced in 2002 ….your welcome….
Gtr is one of my dream cars, no offense but these guys are just being complete haters. Alex was right. Understand something, it doesn’t matter who copied who the fact is from a RACING perspective the coyote is superior. It costs less to supercharge/ turbo a coyote than a full AMS exhaust system for the gtr. It would effectively take a gtr 140k in (Including a car) to run a 7 second pass. Meanwhile there’s a guy out here running a 7 on a stock sealed engine and boost for less than half that price.
Daniel with the Honda Frustrate k24 is more than welcome to come to Fl to give you a honda nightmare 😂
Gotta get the AV boys on the podcast
Gtr went a 7:56 in the qtr and he’s calling out 6 second Honda. 😂
We Outside 🔥
Ford had 427 SOHC 1964. INTECH 4.6 DOHC 1993, Cobra 4.6 DOHC 1996, Lincoln Navigator 5.4 DOHC 1998. 2003 Terminator, 2007 GT500....The 5.0 Coyote is the evolution of those motors.
That bozo talkin down on Hondas like it’s nothing🤣🤣
Hahah facts
For real yo, like, dude you are calling out Hondas with 2 less cylinders and about $100,000 less put in the Honda! Call out r8’s Porsche’s trackhawks etc but hey, if they feel good about talking reckless about the Honda gang let em. Someone will show up soon enough and gap them in a eg awd lmao
I would love to meet one of them in person ❤
Does the third guy talk? Why is he there.. asking for a friend😂
That must be the very 1st Travis stepping on oil
I can understand the competitiveness and critiquing others' work, but would like people to remember one thing: We are all building off of someone else's work and someone else's knowledge who came before us. Whether it is designs that someone else thought of and created as a platform we use, or learning from mentors and friends. We wouldn't be shit. We'd be driving buggies or riding horses.without what we inherited and fell into. I respect what everyone is doing but a humble and hard-working attitude makes a person special.
I feel bad for the third guy, just spacing out bored 😂
Felix Performance would be a nice podcast to see get done, Im curious to see what all the fast Subie guys are doing lol
They messed up my built WRX, I would not recommend
Why is the other dude even there 😂
No lie saw this episode 3 times already lol fire episode!!!
Not factual. Coyotes are not a Vr38 copy .
But it has the exact same linear curve .
It has to be the same science 😂😂😂
No the coyote is based off of the 4v motor in the 03 cobra and Mach 1
Correct these guys a dumb. The coyote is still based off the modular engine design that ford has done forever
Only reason I’m watching is to try to learn dudes logic on this
He caught me off guard once he start talking 😂
Who? The guy with the perm that can't pronounce words worth o's in them?
My boy brad will see you back at crusin OC
I feel the same about the the hellcat copied the LS motor
John is a whole vibe Silent but deadly 😅
You notice that none of these GTR guys are calling out Nth Moto vipers or calvo vipers, just civics and bmw's. I wanna see a Nth Moto built viper vs one of these GTR's.
I think they are focused on 1/4 mile runs more than roll races.
@@MrSxty8goats maybe so but GTR's roll race a ton because like they said they can't run a pro tree...
@@MrSxty8goats @nthmoto
Vipers are in the deep 7s and mid 6s in the 1/4
Those cars only fast in the half mile 😂
You aren’t wrong tho them vipers are different I rode in one once and I thought a McLaren was fast lol
Different tiers:
A Viper is a 2 seater super car. You don’t need to mod a Viper to run against an exotic car.
A GTR is a four seater tuner car. A GTR needs to be modded to compete with exotics.
It’s like comparing a civic against a mustang.
Bruh I thought the 3rd dude was literally gonna stay silent for the entire pod. 😂