Record number of nurses quitting the NHS in England - BBC News
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Record numbers of nurses are quitting the NHS in England, figures show.
More than 40,000 have walked away from the NHS in the past year - one in nine of the workforce, an analysis by a health think tank revealed.
It said many of these were often highly skilled and knowledgeable nurses with years more of work left to give.
The high number of leavers is nearly cancelling out the rise in new joiners that has been seen.
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It’s happening in America too: Former RN for 18 years. Quit literally 3 months before we knew of Covid. I was too burnt out over the workload, patient abuse and administration demanding unrealistic expectations. My physical and mental exhaustion took over a year to recover from after I quit. I had no life and felt lifeless! And when Covid hit I was like, “hell no, couldn’t pay me enough anyway to go back!!”
Much more happier being a Housewife! We finally started our family after 7 years of marriage and I’m almost 40. Didn’t have the time before to have a family, now we do! Today I’m 35 weeks pregnant and our baby girl is coming on Halloween 🎃 2022!!!
Congratulations 🎉 may your angel have healthy happy long life.
Good for you! Never let a paycheck get in the way of your happiness.
Congratulations!
Probably also too much microwaving inside in corners of hospital rooms on body gave physical exhaustion too.
Wishing you safe delivery.
Nurses are one of the most underrated professionals in the world. They are tremendously vital and key to the healthcare of any community, yet they more or less undervalued, under appreciated, poorly compensated and highly disrespected in the profession. They work their hearts off, while the doctors take all the credit. Sad to see many leave a very noble profession. I hope things change quickly.
I agree with you. As a RN we are expected to assume and do whatever thrown at you without refusing even when it’s done disgracefully.😢
Yes Nkechi they are not as valued as teachers even though registered nurses are usually more qualified now
My girlfriend is a live in carer for a heavily disabled woman , administers various medications , uses hoists etc . Her hourly pay works out at just over £2 It’s a disgrace what carers get paid .
@@403elle two pounds???
They're overworked. It's a joke and it makes me angry.
In the end it’s not just about pay. Nurses get treated terribly by patients, families, and the hospital systems. No standardized nurse to patient ratios, no breaks, long shifts, and now in the US greater liability for mistakes. Why? When you can find jobs that pay comparably where you get an hour lunch, get to use the restroom and drink water at your desk, and won’t be put in jail for making an error.
Excellent point
Ah this makes me sad
Agreed C B…when you’ve done your best for a patient and family and they complain about your care..it is very disheartening
Exactly!! my mum works as a nurse for the NHS and the work conditions are SO stressful she says she has to do the work of 2 or 3 nurses all on her own a lot of the times and even though she's already working 12hour shifts she ends up having to leave work an hour or half late because of the change over system.
She doesn't like working there, and she'd change jobs if she could but unfortunately we need the money and I know a lot of other Asian immigrants who came here to the UK to work for the NHS and build a better life but ended up in that same position. stress, stress, some more stress and NO pay rise. It's absurd and I could go on for ages about how ridiculous it all is and all the problems with the NHS but nothing would change anyways- not when we have a government that only cares if its about the high-income earners, those who make 50k+ a year😐
It's even worse in the United States, as nobody can afford hospital treatments, patients not getting properly treated or accommodated, and republicans still fighting against free healthcare.
My mother, a retired nurse, said "It's the only job which requires you to be trained to a professional standard, buy doesn't pay like you're a professional"
how is a 26k job not a professional pay?
@@firstname4865 It's shit pay you clown.
@@firstname4865 A profession is any type of work that needs special training or a particular skill, often one that is respected because it involves a high level of education, e.g. doctors, lawyers, architects, chartered engineers etc. All people who, coincidentally hold people's lives in their hands. Average salary would be at least 3 or 5 times a nurse's, whereas very often, a nurse carries more practical responsibility. They should be paid the same as doctors. The problem is sexist in its roots.
26k is was shop assistants can get paid for a 40 hour week.
@@jonahwhale9047 What about chefs
They hold people’s lives in their hands too
@@maalikserebryakov How about bus drivers? No, that's not the defining factor of "the professions" in English. A starting point would be "a field of work that has been successfully professionalized". Read up on the definition of "professionalization".
Without looking, I'd suspect cooking is on the level of a craft due to the manual focus/lack of intellectual requirements. I don't know if there are professional bodies for cooks/chefs, if any join them, or whether there are "chartered chefs".
As someone from London it literally feels like the UK 🇬🇧 is falling apart.
cause it is?
Bound to happen when you leave a government in power who has proven time and time again how incompetent they are.
Nothing to do with the influx of illegals floating into London that are a certain religion..oops 😮 , can’t say that
Society is like its bleeding to death at this point
@@xzlemin9569 I know the conservatives have messed the country up , imagine labour or the liberals in no. 10
After the pandemic and seeing how needed us nurses are; they still cannot compensate or give appreciation.
Nurses are an annoying self important lot. They even inject their sassiness into fictional series. They really relished in the COVID bullshit. Even referred to themselves as the "Frontline"
You can't even give an aspirin without permission. The majority of your job can be done by an intern. Like marking a checkbox on a clipboard is an essential role or skill lol.
Plandemic
All these people strangely collapsing and dying "unexpectedly" and you people still cant figure it out. WOW
Agree❤
I once asked a matron who sat next to my desk that the nurses on the Covid wards should be given some sort of supports such as financial supports or a bonus for their sacrifices for caring for the Covid patients. Her answer shocked me. She said "why? They just have to do their jobs." That matron never went to any Covid wards to protect herself from catching Covid.
I am a doctor working in the emergency department in Ireland.
The workload in the emergency department is very high and I feel burnt out for the last year.
I understand the reason for those who are leaving healthcare to do more enjoyable and vast less stressful work than in the hospital workplace.
If I find a career shift job I would do it too.
The problem is at the top mate. Your bosses. The fact today is that if someone requires an appointment or follow up to a scan it's 3 months waiting for the consultant, that's after it's gone from the hospital to the local GP then back to the same hospital for the consultant to speak to you. Its ridiculous. The local GP s most are shutting down or merging yet the head of the NHS all other bosses still scream out for funding when it's there own infrastructure that's fucked
Keep doing your best, appreciate the hard work thank you
Are you at South tipperary general hospital?
@@freshtoast3879 Yes, I am.
How did you know?
@@mosab22 I just googled your name "Dr. Mosaab Abdullah".
Get rid of 12 hour shifts, research shows that empathy disappears after 8 hours. Breaks are not sufficient to make up for the tiredness felt.
I agree. It's 13 hours with two 30 minute breaks. By the time you've gone to sit down and walk back you're down to just 20/25 mins, plus then the time it takes to get to work and home that potentially another couple of hours. In my case from leaving home to getting back it's 15 hours. It's knackering. To then have to do the same the next day.
@@RD-gs6fq The RCN need to represent nurses, they need to recognise this as an issue. Start speaking to your reps, right to the center. More power to your elbow as a nurse, look after your health. Best wishes
Who can blame them for leaving. They have been run into the ground and abandoned by the government and NHS management.
Too many NHS management chiefs and they need to bring matrons back
Nurses are extremely overworked. Often there is short staffing which increases the risk levels to nurses and patients as they battle fatigue and burnout
We are losing our nurses and doctors in Ontario, Canada as well. We've become a nation of creepy cops and casinos. TPS, OPP, RCMP and their families all doing well, the rest of the province is bankrupt and losing our best talent rapidly. Decades of poor leadership and unaccountable corruption is finally taking its toll in the competitive global economy that demands innovation.
The West is in sharp decline, all self inflicted.
As a farmer I too fell overworked for shit pay, however.. I also stop bothering with my GP with my failing health at age 29 because I feel they don't give a flying fuck. I'll just buy some medicine and hope it does the job, as for my spine.. Theres no fixing that.. Permanently crippled, but still I will work on.. Because someone has to give a shit about the country's people instead of being selfish. 🤷♀️
Healthcare workers don't know that overwork is bad for health?
Would that be tik tok nurses who danced while people died at home and we're murdered in care homes?
@@rachelbarn6011 Well, these overworked workers would've been much more financially stable had Canada not spend money on illegal immigrants, would they? Citizens come first, migrants second.
Yup. I was an aspiring physician, after working in a hospital for 3 years and shadowing doctors, I faced a critical choice. I genuinely was extremely concerned about having a longterm future in healthcare because just in my short 3 years I saw the burnout on physicians and nurses, I ended up switching to engineering. It's really important to be genuine with yourself and I'm happy the first woman is doing better now
How are you finding engineering?
GPs add to the problem as they refer to ED unnecessarily
I remember Boris joining in “clapping for carers” during the pandemic, but then the Tory government refused a significant pay rise for nurses….I would leave too
My partner works at Doncaster Council and last year they were offered a pathetic non negotiable pay rise of 1.75%.
TWO of my sisters who loved their NHS jobs were treated like crap everyday, they would come home full of sadness and depression. Both cried when they realized they had to leave, felt like there were MANY cliques which made them feel excluded, not to mention the hate you also get from the patients themselves (oh and the shift hours don't get me started on those). The political games they play like blaming each other and management not being disciplined for racist remarks or preferential behavior is outstandingly appalling! DONT TELL US TO CLAP FOR THE NHS... REFORM IT!
*Stop moaning. These nurses are murderers.*
*Why don't you also mention the nurses making tiktoks and those nurses who murder babies and poison patients??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!*
yep toxic work environment everywhere, do like the chinese: bay lan
surely there were dozens of places they could have worked as a nurse instead
All of the above still happening up and down this country. Stress levels and suicide through the roof
I'm a junior doctor and my two favourite nurses on the ward are leaving. I don't blame them. They deserve better. I'll be leaving too soon enough.
This was happening long before this has been reported. It's been unsafe on wards for years.
Pay them double pay for their overtime instead of the flat rate through agencies, increase their pay rate... the full time nurse works 37 hours and is paid around £25K.. it's not a living wage for saving lives and caring for the ill... in order to make ends meet they end up working anywhere between 50 to 70 hours a week.. only to raise their annual pay to mid £30's K or there abouts... they are grossly under appreciated, no wonder they are leaving
Here in the US, RN's make (on average) atleast $60k per year. The best top paid 25% of RN's make over $90k a year. I don't know why wages in the UK are so low compared to the US, nursing is seriously lucrative here in the states.
@@d_4492 because it's free, and the government has been cutting the NHS budget gradually until it has become shambolic... only nurses in the capital city earn a little bit better, not much! The medical industry in the US is run like a business, so it's kinda unfair to compare the american and the british health care.. however, we all pay towards the nhs along with income taxes directly, if I personally had the choice, I would choose to pay for private health care instead.. but it doesnt make sense to pay twice! Some companies offer private health insurance and some dont!
What is your solution. If the government prints more money it will just put up inflation and make the situation worse for everyone.
and yet there's millions on 14k a year
I am working in the health system and can tell you: nurses do very little overtime, especially compared to doctors.
Why do you make stuff up?
As a teacher I will be doing the same very very soon! It is only my fourth year in teaching!
Life lesson, people will not stay in a job that treats them horrible for a long period of time with the experience they have.
To be honest they deserve better, they are treated poorly.
Makes my blood boil when people like footballers, celebrities and private companies get paid way more than people that save lives, and have kept this country going when all else failed and they get treated so poorly it's disgraceful.
Yes, most places except for an Amazon fulfillment center.
f the nurses. they deserve disrespect
They could always get a job as a footballer then....or work at Amazon.
One word...
Corruption.
But unfortunately many of the nhs workers have come from abroad hoping to build better lives in the UK but now they're stuck in a job where they have tonnes of stress piled onto them. Yes, saving lives is great but NHS workers are treated terribly, I've seen my mum cry before going to work (she's a nurse for the NHS) and she would leave that horrific job if she could but she's a mother of three and we're in a cost of living crisis so she basically has no choice but to stay in a job that causes her so much stress and pain. My hope is to study and get a good job so that I can support her financially so that she can do what SHE wants to do instead of slaving away day and night (under a broken hospital system) trying to take care of SOMEBODY ELSE'S grandma who's ended up in hospital with dementia or whatever else.
sadly, a lot of nhs workers can't just up and leave their jobs because they have families that they need to support and mouths to feed, otherwise, if they did have an option to move to a better job, there'd be no nurses left in the NHS 😂I wonder what Lizz UN'truss'worthy would do then. Oh right, probably nothing.
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Perhaps these unfit-for-purpose health trusts should get rid of some of their overpaid bureaucrats and pay nurses a better salary.
I quit in June this year after a breakdown. My mental health has never been better. It’s a failing corrupt organisation that doesn’t care about its staff. Some of the crap I’ve witnessed you would not believe.
I can believe it. The nhs is corrupt, woke and they promote people based on colour, religion and ethnicity not skills. Too PC and it has a bullying mentality.
I was a nursing student for abit and I quit because the stark reality of what my days would look like was too much. The way staff are overworked is dangerous and I was left to do tasks that I should not have been allowed to do alone as a first year student. The morale was low and I decided right there it wasn't for me at all with how bad it is.
Gemma you give up so easily
@@kamaldeepjohal9372 she didn’t, she valued herself and understood what it would mean to be pushed to work in such a way.
I'm a qualified nurse since 2009 in 4 countries. I quit NHS in 2020 due to heavy workload and very low pay. Now, I'm taking care of the elderly and with challenging behaviours. They're like my family now and the pay is better. If the UK can increase the nurse's wage like in the US then you'll have more nurses here instead.
But in America nurses are paid by medical companies that have a vested interst in keeping them. Nurses in the UK are paid by the state
Spoken like the true jobsworth you are. "Increase the pay and il care"
Paid very well according to the BBC articles last week. Same as the striking train drivers, mail service, all paid way way above average, some double.
taking care is my passion but at the same time it won't pay my bills if we would give care for free or low pay right? it is what it is... There are many competitors to hire nurses especially after Pandemic. The world nearly stopped all activities during the crisis and many industries were closed or shut down. Only necessary industry was open such as the Healthcare Sector. The disparity of USA wages versus UK is just huge. Like for example, one of my friend's earning was around £100k yearly after tax. In California some reached 200k GBP but yeah we need to consider the cost of living and the healthcare insurance in the US plus the mass shootings.
@@joodebritannia6345 plus in the US nurses are paid 4 by canopies not the government
I would love to work for the NHS as a nurse but they make it so hard for people with family's (I have no family or friends to help with childcare).. they should offer people more flexible hours, instead they expect people to work 12 hour shifts as standard
I feel like that too, I couldn’t stand up for 12 hours because of my own health but I feel that nurses do such a valuable job, I wish I could be part of it.
I survived 3 years as a qualified nurse and then my mental health broke down from work. I dunno how I survived that long! I re-trained in an allied health role. Much less stressful and much more support :)
Stay blessed - our Government doesn't give a shit about Doctors or Nurses and instead, exploits your good hearts and care-giving natures.
Hey, im an NQN and im just wondered what you trained in afterwards i have only been working for 5 weeks and i can't see myself doing this for years
I'm doing speech and language therapy now and love it ❤️
@@sineadbanfield7668 I'm very happy for you 😌
@@Umar_1994_ Thank you :) I hope all works out for you whatever you decide to do!
I have worked in NHS as a doctor for a while and the Nurses being harassed by their seniors is unbelievable in the UK.
Not to offend anyone,but nurses say they work hard, ok , but why are majority obese, is the extra weight making them exhausted?
@@thebeesnuts777 Due to the long hours at work, nurses suffer from high amounts of stress. That stress in turn might make them eat ''comfort food'', which is basically unealthy food (chocolate, cakes, late dinner full of carbs, etc...). So, doesn't matter how much walking around they do at work when their eating habits and probably lack of sleep will affect your weight gain. Sometimes they are not physically exhausted but mentally instead, which is worse.
Next time, pls do your research before you comment on such sensitive topic like this.
@@petersouza1682 ❤
@@petersouza1682 Plenty of people work poor hours in stressful jobs and get paid less than these people and they get on with it.
If youre not being bullied you know ur doing ur job right x
I qualify in a year and honestly can't wait to join the NHS as a nurse, but you can really see the NHS takes advantage of the vocational aspect of nursing and doesn't take their staffs complaints seriously.
Go private, more money.
Lol you’ll soon regret your decision! Speaking as someone who was a RN for 18 years. Good luck! It took me well over a year after I quit to emotionally, mentally and physically heal from the abuse, anxiety and trauma.
Congratulations on nearly qualifying 🎉🤗
@@LadyInWhite741 can I ask what you are doing now.
8 years qualified now. That will soon change , u will so realise not even being good at ur job matters. U will never be good enuf !!!
This winter will be hell for health services and for nurses. I am a nurse of 25 years and nursing in the public hospital system is hard hard work. I don’t think people truly understand the pressure, responsibility, hard work, terrible work conditions, bad pay and we are finding patients are more demanding, rude and the work load is beyond what is acceptable in order to do our job properly and give our patients what they deserve. The exhaustion you feel after a shift is daily, not only is is physically demanding, but emotionally draining and you are always expected to be professional, kind, helpful and on the ball every second! You can’t just go have a lunch break! Most of the time you do not get a break or even a chance to finish a cup of coffee. We sacrifice our family life and social life due to the horrible hours we do and you never get any thanks, not that you want thanks as this is your job, but people can be very rude sometimes, it’s a tough job. The public defiantly do not know the pressure day by day by day we are under and it doesn’t take long for burn out to set in. We have just gone through one of our busiest winter here in the Southern Hemisphere (NZ) after hours clinics having to close due to staff sickness snd overloaded waiting rooms.Lengthy wait times, occupancy at over 110% grid locked and really sick patients. The flu was back with a vengeance this year, as was RSV, noro virus and Covid, patients that had not seen Drs due to the shortages over the pandemic are now presenting very unwell as their conditions were not treated or diagnosed earlier. Our winter was mild but I really fear for the northern hemisphere gong into a cold winter with the energy crisis looming. It’s going to hit you all hard this winter season. Best of luck to my fellow nurses who are going to be working there butts off! Try look after yourselves my treasured nurse family. Good luck x
Sounds like you've never worked another job.
I mean we're all treated bad a work, but millions only get just 14k a year, less holiday than nurses, get no pension, don't get sick pay, millions of people! everybody has to work hard, part from lazy people who can be found in all work places.
You take care too ❤
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"
Matthew 5:44
@@firstname4865 maybe should have tried harder at school!
I work in the NHS everyone is having a nervous break down
Not me
I wouldn’t b surprised, 😞
Imagine spending 3 years plus in school and all that money on tuition to become a nurse just to work 50 hours plus and still have to skip meals. Whatever happened to getting a good job and working hard so you could get a leg up on life?
Farmers don't need to go to school to learn their craft but we guaranteed work way more than 50 hours a week and the pay as probably worse.
However, at least we save some money as we can't drink alcohol or celebrate holidays as we're working.. Christmas and New year included. I havent had a holiday for 20 years now, since I was 9.. Even then, it was in the same country I live in.. It was from the Friday night to the Sunday morning, I was also working on the farm then, for free of course.. Still am but 🤷♀️ I dont get to quit.
@@Kat-mu8wq Well, the one single notion coming to my mind someone mentioning alcohol is desinfection and chapped hands. The average drugs of choice are either dope and/or food, or prayers and sports. shrugs
And work shift work, have no family or social life, your exhausted and the pay is crap!
if they're skipping meals on their salary how do you think the millions on 14k a year eat?
@@firstname4865 I'm in that situation myself due to disability and its a daily struggle, I'm not coming at this from a point of privilege. At least here in Canada there is a decent amount of support. The thing is I spent 9 years becoming an electrician before my injury so I know how hard it is to scrape and claw your way out of poverty and then to be brought right back to that level even as you're busting your ass at work would just be an extra slice of BS. .
I'm a student nurse due to qualify in January and I have been looking at other options to nursing when qualified.
My cohort has been treated appallingly by our university, placements team, recruitment and the staff on the wards.
The amount of discrimination I have seen and dealt with personally towards BAME and disabled students is horrendous, from both uni and placement areas.
I am not alone is saying that a number of students on my course are not going into the nursing field.
BAME students face so many challenges including racism at the hands of supervisors , patients and university lectures, it's shocking
same here in Australia. Before working as a student nurse in the hospital I never knew in 2022 people still have so much prejudice against others. I have been told to my face that i was "taking over their country by coming here like a plague", and so much racism against Aboriginal people and other coworkers with darker skin. It does take a toll on my mental health as I hear it so often. I am finishing my degree next year but making an exit plan from nursing already. Life is too short for this nonsense. And the pay is enough even worth it.
@@Lyvice I finish in January and I've already started making plans
@@evie9202 good for u. take care of yourself.
I’m an RMN go into computer science or some such. There is so much work in that field particularly at the moment.
Take care of you ❤
Just like how restaurant customers can be sued for being rude to servers, I personally think patients should be sued too for being rude to nurses. They're already overworked, they don't need the bad vibes.
Thank you! We are treated like shit by patients anc have to grin and bare it other wise you are in jeopardy of being fired!
Agung I understand what you are saying, but conversely patients are often spoken to as if they are non-persons. The Patients Charter etc. are often ignored. Patients are used as teaching aids without consent, told they must do as the health care professional tells them to do. Little regards for a patient's dignity. Consent should be obtained and not disregarded. Put on mixed wards against their wish in a bed next to patients of the opposite sex.
And patients should be able to sue rude nurses. It goes both ways.
Regarding suing, It is not just nurses it is all health care professionals and ancillary staff and that includes those who are employed in the private wings of NHS hospitals. The current complaints system is broken
I'm not up for the suing of rude patients, but I'd be be totally up for pushing for criminal charges against a patient who attacked me.
A lot of Nursing Students left my course alongside me when I studied nursing in 2014.
There were way too many bullies in the workplacements and we couldn't even learn properly as students.
It was just that year though may I add.
Even our teachers back at uni were saying that this was such a large number complaints that they've never had before.
I had a colleague gossiping about me toward the manager. This colleague wasn't even a nurse herself, only the manager, but that is because they didn't have enough placements, so they would just send you off to a place where you learn nothing about nursing.. ended up with the horrible manager lady yelling at me and making up stories with me in it, telling me if you were doing this I would have fired you right on the spot. All that instead of being the mature one here and asking me what happened, or pulling the colleague into the convo later on. I cried and barely made it out there with a meagure pass. 2nd placement also horrible. Nursing home side job alwasy understaffed, constant backpain and migrains and being a nursing aid taking care of the whole unit of 8 to 15 people by yourself with barely any guidance.. best thing ever was quitting nursing
@@vivalarance1840 omg I'm sorry that you went through this! I went through similar to this, where there was so much negative tension between myself and the nurses that I couldn't wait to finish my placement, it was absolute psychological hell. It took me years to recover from the shock.
I hope you're in a better place now and that you have somewhat healed?
@@tea-chip-cookies same! After the 1st placement I was so anxious and worried to start the 2nd internship.. they sended me to a highcare mental institution. It was exactly the nr 1 place where I never would see myself work and made it harder. I had in 6 weeks 5 "mentors" who were never there. They ended up blaming me for not doing the job, while no one btohered to guide me. I quit in week 7. After 2 days i didnt have to take 10 paracetamol per day for the headaches that was caused by the stress of it. The changing sleeping patterns made it worse and the unpaid placements made you have to look for a side job that wasn't even possible. Not a minute of time for yourself.
I started a new bachelors just now and hope to becone a teacher. It was suprising to me how much lesser hard the study load is and due to the 9 to 5 monday to friday I got plenty of time extra to work, sleep and relax. Nursing is amazing, but as they say; your highschool bullys all become nurses, making it a bad place for you or, in a lot of cases the patiënts as well. How did you cope with it, and what problems did you face for those years after quitting? I still find myself feeling very anxious sometimes after this, especially when thinking about the placement in this field I am starting in Februari. I'm afraid my previous experience will make it hard to ask for help, questions or yet again being bullied to the point of crying.
I'm a 3rd year now and I find placements horrific. It really puts you off being a nurse when staff aren't nice. Dont get me wrong there are some lovely ones but a lot I just find aren't pleasant. It's hard enough with the long hours and workload without the need for people to not be nice to each other. I'm seriously considering not going into nursing when I qualify.
@@RD-gs6fq if they would treat the interns better, put some more staff there to take the workload of the nurses and have better scheduling, Im pretty sure that more people would not leave the field so fast. Here in NL a lot of people that graduate quit the nursing field within 5 years.
Government needs to stop the bullshit agenda
Why do we have exactly the same problem in Denmark.
Same problem in Finland. We have a massdismissal going on. People are leaving their jobs in healthcare and even the government had to make a law that forces anyone with a licence to work so now everyone is invalidating their licences so they don't have to do it forced.
@Norma Neumann NHS junior doctors get only half the pay of tube drivers at about 29000 pounds per year.
@Norma Neumann Doctors in the NHS aren’t paid well. Obviously, everyone refers to the salary of junior doctors (which is of course very low) but even the salary of consultants (£80,000) whilst of course being a lot of money, doesn’t pay “well” after going to medical school for 6 years, training for 10, all the while studying for high-stakes exams back to back and having to pay for membership and courses out of your own pocket alongside a mountain of student loans and, in some cases, loans taken out during training.
The Western Nations are all falling apart.Love your country.I was a sailor on board one of your ships named "Marius Nielsen".🇬🇧Stay safe.
You think Denmark is bad? Come to the US. We will give you a heart attack when presenting your first medical bill...🤣 You will do anything NOT to seek medical help
For all the constant harping on about how much the British people love the NHS, for the last 12 years the people have voted for tax cuts over public spending, and have seen the NHS being dismantled piecemeal. Then the people voted for Brexit, with the main goal being keeping foreigners out, heedless of the fact that the NHS was very heavily reliant on foreign workers. Nurses perform a vital and difficult job and are paid a pittance. It's a wonder more are not quitting
People hate paying taxes and foreigners taking jobs but they love benefiting from what those taxes pay for and what those foreigners do. Boggles my mind how people can say "taxation is theft" and yet be oblivious to how many things they benefit from every day that are paid for with that supposedly "stolen" money.
British voted torries and torries put NHS to the grave with cuts, so they can privatise it. I don't like Labour at the moment but at least they're better for NHS.
A few years ago I applied to nursing school and passed all my tests and interviews. Week one of school they asked me to sign a form agreeing to pay £27,000 a year. This is because despite having a uk residence permit and living in the country for 15 years I still hold a foreign passport!! I had to quit the course. So when I see such stories I shake my head in disbelief. The NHS Is obviously not desperate enough if they can’t change the policy on international fees for non-national uk residents. I think one should be allowed to pay home fees if they already live in the country and pay taxes, just a suggestion. There must be a lot of people out there like me. We are part of this community- our children go to the same schools, we stand together In hospital queues, the country is already overpopulated, give us a chance before importing? It might reduce the work load.
Your suggestion is far too sensible and the clowns in the UK Govt would never accept such good logic !
@@abeonthehill166 well let’s wait and see. like someone once said; we are all in this together.
thats a deliberate policy to stop/invert national wage rise, push locals out and force cheap foreigners in.
Sadly your suggestion touches what politicians care more for, *money* . So sadly, when money is involved, changes like you've suggest never going to happen.
@@angelsv mind that a reason for "bay lan" is the sheer impossibility to "climb the ladder", whether it is financial, social, ... cos a rigid, corrupt, broken system.
How can they treat nurses like this it’s distressing…..
Those nurses are suffering witnessing all kind of horrors and the system fueled by our taxes fails them🤦🏻
Taxes went to hep Ukraine be nice
It really annoys me to see rude and smart comments on this tread, not many but enough to make me really angry. UK are 40,000 nurses short already! Just because 4,000 new graduates are coming through does not mean that they will all work for NHS plus they are juniors who have to be supervised for the first year. Having experienced nurses leave is dangerous. We are not here to complain, we are speaking up because we care about the lack of quality care that our patients are getting. Nurses join the profession to make a difference and help people, well we don’t have the time of the resources to even care for our patients up to the stand that we would like to see. It’s expected of us and it’s impossible.
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Dangerous for who? Old people? Fat people with comorbidities? Foolish people who injure themselves? GOOD. The less we have of those plebs, the better!
Just leave then ,go work in Amazon or Aldi. Plenty more nurses in the world to take your place.
@@jablot5054 😂 no there aren't
Ignore the flakes....
The nhs can NOT recruit fast enough to replace staff that left and still leaving...
I worked in a hospital and in the Nursing home and there were plenty of Bullying, Racism and Discrimination. Who have time for all that b.s.?
SO TRUE DEAR. THAT'S WHY I LEFT🙏🏽.
The bullying and alienation was too much where I felt much better walking out.
They need Jesus
@@MrJuulia01 Even at churches here I noticed the micro alienation using body language. But I agree I felt more included in churches than anywherelse.
That's, it blame everything except the jab mandates.... typical BBC.
I work in recruitment for the NHS. The pay for our nurses is far, far too low in my opinion. With the work they do for this nation, they deserve so much more.
Oh, so you're an authority on the pay of our health care professionals, simply because you put a few people into temporary work for the council?
@@danielmoran9902
No, I employ nurses and doctors on permanent contracts within a NHS Trust. They earn very, very little compared to what they should be earning.
So sad, our nurses are amazing. Had such great service after my kid was hospitalised recently.
You’re lucky then. My Mum’s experience wasn’t up to standard on the intensive care unit. The nurses are too busy and too stretched.
We were in the children's ward for a week, the nurses were wonderful. It helped that the ward wasn't that busy.
Sadly the nurses / Doctors are not amazing , kept insisting my wife that there's nothing wrong even when we showed her the CT scan from a private hospital. They just don't want to treat you, they just want people to die so of course bad Karma is hitting them hard too
All such fraudulent doctors and nurses should be made redundant and licenses taken away
@@travelwell6049
That's sad to hear but I'm not surprised as many most shifts are so busy pace that as staff I feel patients now are not getting the care they deserve due to not having time. This breaks your moral because what staff want is enough on shift to provide the care patients deserve.
amazing? FAR FROM IT
I'm not surprised. When going up at night after work to give some fresh clothes to my brother when he was in hospital. The one nurse on ward was rushed off of their feet tending to the whole ward alone :( the amount of patients and some patients needing more attention than other. It was hard for the nurse to juggle patients and opening door to family members dropping off things for the patient.
Some people that work hard will always be under paid in this sinful world.
NHS workers have a good deal compared to most.
I have just decided to retire totally from nursing. Why? Managers demanding more and more data. Nurses spend most of their time clattering away on keyboards creating meaningless data using computer systems that don't work to send to commissioners who can't count.
I lasted 3 years from qualifying before I had a total breakdown, both physically and mentally. I'm not the same person I was before I started nursing. Lost my spark. Sometimes I feel like a failure, that it was my fault I couldn't hack it and I just needed thicker skin. But it destroys everyone; you either stay and eventually become a bitter, cold person just to cope, or end up quitting. It's tragic. Patients need us, but because of the overwhelming pressure you soon become a patient yourself. And the sad thing is that having witnessed the state of the NHS as a member of staff you know that as a patient you are screwed. It's terrifying.
Thank the Tories for their management and treatment of doctors and nurses and support staff in the NHS.
Sad to see such skilled, talented and just generally hard working grafters go to waste… governments a shambles.
my mum quit the NHS and is now making more in a week doing agency work than she was in a month on the NHS. she was so sick of the toxic work environment as well as how intense it was, along with the terrible pay. its no surprise this is happening. nurses are overworked and underpaid. they deserve so much more than what the government is doing to them.
You can't blame the government for a toxic environment
Are u paying the right tax ?
I've always had terrible service from GPs and other doctors. They just give you a prescription and send you on your way, money machines. No knowledge or care to solve the underlying problems and outdated ideas like eat a Weetabix a day, no stupid you will add to the carb issues.
Nurses then pick up the mess when you are seriously ill. Cut doctor pay by half, pay the nurses.
GP's are extremely busy they work long hours and having to deal with people like you I don't blame them for what they do because they work long ours sometimes not see family members for hours on end we need to support doctors and nurses it's the top people in the office that need a pay cut to pay the nurses and the doctors ect
Cut doctor pay in half? Are you insane, in that case no doctors would go into the work force and many are quitting already because of similar bad working conditions and long hours.
I work for the NHS as an Occupational Therapist and I feel similar. All the responsibility that gets put onto our shoulders sometimes makes me think to just do a simpler job like stocking shelfs that would keep me less up at night.
I also have to throw in that leaving the EU did not help to convince external nurses from the EU to stay as I myself am from a EU country can say that staying in England was a difficult decision!
This will get taken the wrong way but I'm confused why you chose a career in therapy but don't like too much pressure 🥴 I dont think the responsibility is just an NHS thing. maybe that wasnt the career path for you, which takes a lot of courage to admit
You're not a nurse , stop glorifying your job. Only real nurses need to comment
@@winkblue6851 I studied and worked in a different EU country. It did not feel like that there as much as I did here in the UK. So I guess there must be something different here in the UK. Here it feels like you have to cover yourself for everything you do, which is not nice and keeps you up at night... Another thing is also that wherever I go in the NHS they are all missing people. At one point working in the community mental health team we had 25% staffing during covid.
@@daniyalbbd5281 I work closely with nurses together and we basically do similar jobs. When the nurses pay rise came through last month I got it as well just fyi.
And I have in no way glorified my job... i just try to give people a bit more inside for what they can't see.
I wonder if it's also how corporations slowly undermine the British system to bring in their 'much better' corporate system, read start the robbery so successful in the USA.
I have been a uk Paramedic for 18 years. To those people who say if you don’t like it quit. We are. The problem is that no one is replacing us. The NHS has been ripped apart by successive governments and patient demands. I was sick of not ever being given an inflation MEETING pay rise, never having leave, the violence, the abuse, missing every family event from birthdays to parents evenings. To being constantly tired. To never being able to do my best for the Patients who actually needed me. I, like tens of thousands of others have had enough. The NHS has lost and too few people actually tried to fight for it.
They can always import more healthcare workers from India
Don't blame them you can do a tech job and work from the comfort of your own home and earn more. Without putting your body through physical labour and the stress of being overworked
The mandatory jabbery has nothing to do with quitting? Likes the SADS has nothing to do with it?
NHS is in the gutter.! I couldn't believe the amount of people on my flight back from Turkey who went over there to pay for their own medical treatment because they was in unbelievable pain waiting for operations in the UK, its absolutely disgusting given the huge amounts of taxes we pay in this country.
Nurses should earn far more than they do, they worked dam hard through the pandemic some even giving their lies to care for others, this should never be forgotten, give them the wage they deserve and better working hours
yes those tik tok dances are very exhausting
Hear, hear, hear !!!!
I am
A nurse of 25 years. What you would call senior and in a higher earning bracket. I get the same pay as unqualified men that drive diggers in construction sites! My husband earns 13 dollars more than me an hour as a drain layer. My eldest son earns more as an first year apprentice than I did when I first graduated with a degree in nursing ! It’s terribly unfair and a slap in the face. For the resisability we have it’s peanuts. Everyone thinks it’s the drs that do everything! Lol it’s not we are the eyes and ears of the Dr we assess and act accordingly to patients that are not right, having to act and think quickly, if someone is unwell, everyday we are dealing with kids and death situations and we are the knes who are on the front line of that. We give medications that could seriously endanger someone if we got it wrong. It’s crazy!
@@NGRevenant Dullard...
@@KiwikimNZ You think anybody can drive diggers sites with no qualifications? You also seem to think wages should have stayed the same over the past twenty fives years. Did you bother to covert what you were getting then, into a modern equivalent?
30k say in 1997 would be £52,721.85 in today's money.
How you were kept on for that long, being this dim, is the real crazy here.
Paediatrics is probably the most challenging an stressful field in the profession. It takes a very special person.
This is why I have decided to become a Adult Nurse myself hopefully in the next few years because I wouldn't be able to cope with seeing children hurt and dying on a daily basis in the first place to be honest with you especially children with terminal illnesses such as cancer.
Bottom Line is that Nurses have been treated like garbage for years. COVID was the last straw. I've been a Nurse for more than 25 years. We have 2 daughters and doing everything we can to convince them NOT to go into nursing.
It's exhausting and we don't get the right amount of pay what the amount of work on and off duty. Expected to study so much in our own time, we have no time.
I left my role as a neonatal midwife for a less stressful job, but made every attempt to join NHS professionals/bank so that I could still work if I chose to. The sad truth about that is, they rejected my application! The system is seriously broken.
The people at the top with all the ideas and answers to improve services need to reconsider what influences supposed changes and improvements, because clearly it is not their invaluable, skilled staff!
Yep Covid is the nail in the coffin for most nurses, I would imagine. Not enough money for all the stress and abuse on top of this, means goodnight nurse.
It's the twelve and a half hour shifts that killed me
You don't have to work 12.5 hours. If you're not up to it work somewhere else
@@kamaldeepjohal9372 unfortunate your attitude is the same as the hospital managers. So lots of nurses are.leaving.
@@kamaldeepjohal9372 and I did 😁
@@beebeelicious good on you. Many people just grumble but you have been proactive
@@beebeelicious did to go and work were?
Pay and working conditions are really bad in NHS and UK If you compare that with Australia or US. Here in NHS the nurses with 5 year or more experience make a maximum of £33K. In US Australia and Canada as we hear it the nurses make at least £65-75K. Working conditions are much better. My friend who recently moved to Australia says their shifts are always fully staffed and if not the managers will find a replacement somehow. They also have less number of patients to look after. The Law is not choking them so hard like here in UK. Overall they have more job satisfaction and hence they stay and we keep trying to move from one job to the other and realise everywhere it’s the same and then quit. I seriously think it’s worth leaving this country and migrating to somewhere like Australia or Canada or something. Here the nurses are treated like shit. Many managers also makes our life hell. No flexibility. No kindness. No one to talk to if you have an issue. Lots of racism! Can’t explain enough! It’s only getting worse! There was never a day after Covid started we were fully staffed. If you were they pull your staff elsewhere. So much of recruiting happened. But 0 improvement seen. HCAs are also seriously short. They already have a minimum number, when it’s short we all break our backs! 😢
You are right I am a nurse and have a friend I met online who works for NHS I can’t believe the things she tells me. I’ve worked in Australia and New Zealand and although still extremely busy the UK sounds bad!
The UK is rationed healthcare. You are comparing apples to oranges. If you want professional healthcare get rid of national healthcare system. Until then, you will always just be a tool in the machine of providing only the most basic healthcare services with virtually zero negligence standards. Don’t for a second think your services compare to the quality that the nurses provide in a private healthcare system.
nurse we lived next door too ..has emigrated with here young family to Australia ..husband is a ambulance driver..better life for her and the kids there ..
We have a niece in Canada, and the same problems are occurring there, staff burn out, staff shortages, staff leaving.
JUST LEFT MY NURSING JOB IN AUSTRALIA. PROBLEMS IN EVERY LEVEL, JUST LIKE THE U.K U.S.A AND CANADA. NO ONE CARES ABOUT NURSES IN GOVERNMENT AND ADMINISTRATION 👎🏽👎🏽💔💔.
Nurses get more sympathy than much lower paid workers at the NHS. The BBC never does a story about the much lower paid NHS porters or catering staff.
Or all the other jobs that are just as important that nobody thinks of.. Yes nurses are important, but surely those that grow the food for the shelves working dawn til dusk every day are also important? For us it costs up about £200 to raise a sheep to be sold, feeds, etc ..then we sell said sheep and if we're lucky we'll get 200 for it, if we're very very lucky 500.. The electricity bill is 7k a year now. We only have a select amount of sheep to sell, and as its a business, no financial assistance like private homes.. These nurses will get help with their home bills.
@A.K. Aung Kaung Myat a warm smile from a sheep you will be slaughtering soon. Ridiculous response
I worked assisting the OT department in a public hospital in northwest on the wards during both covid and our heatwave we had a couple of summer ago. It was dreadful. The amount of pressure and stress that came with covid as well as the extra PPE in insane heat on the wards was unbearable. No air conditioning could be used due to covid and infection control. And there was no breeze even with windows open. It was almost 30 degrees outside and all thr stuff were working on wards several stories up. The pay did not then, and does not now reflect how hard staff work to make sure patients get the time and care they need.
There are a million other reasons it is difficult which I have not mentioned. But staff understand. A strike is due soon much like the railway service. Can't say I blame them.
I moved into a less stressful job which is still within the service but a non clinical role now. More emotional support based. Got to say, I feel sorry for all my colleagues in my MDT that still have all the crap to deal with.
I quit being a 2nd years nursing student last year. My side job in the nursing home i quit a little later too. The heating would go up very high for these people, but it was an older building. No airco or fresh air coming in. Not even with all the windows open. I think because of the airquality i had terrible migrains and puking for hours once i got home. Since i quit working in the field i haven't had these migrains anymore and the aweful placements and bullys of nurses, patients and their family i feel so much healthier.
Well clapping for us nurses did not really mean anything isnt it? When you try to save someones life and youre paid pennies compared to other professions. It is very demoralising.
Why opt for a job which is supposed to be a calling? I had several of my family in nursing g who deemed it an honour.
@@johnwright7895 So would you agree that your family members do not deserve getting a proper wage then? I cannot pay my bills with just a debt of gratitude and good will especially in a living crisis we are all living in.
@@johnwright7895 That's an outdated view. "You shouldn't be doing this job for the money". All jobs are for the money, John and if any job is worth a lot of money it's the ones where you're constantly dealing with blood, shit and piss.
This's the bizarro world, the government no longer represents the people.
Governments are corporations obeying orders from the World Economic Forum and are no longer serving their peoples, Turn your back on them and show them the contempt they deserve for their psychopathic behavior and genocidal intent .
Some years ago changes in shift systems across many parts of the country meant that nurses were made to work internal rotation shifts. Previously, nurses could work nights, days or even weekends. This meant that they could work shifts that enabled them to dove-tail into their family needs. Many could manage without paying for childcare because family members were able to help. The amount of sickness during school holidays I believe is not coincidental. Nurses are torn between working or staying home with their children. This causes stress and stress causes illness. The length of shifts is often 12 or more hours. Collecting children from school after a shift, or taking them to school before a shift is I believe dangerous as the nurse parent is exhausted. There is no opportunity with rotational shifts to establish a sound and healthy circadian rhythm. Shift work has been proven to contribute to illness through lack of sleep and proper meal times. Food for main meals while on duty is often fast-food from a machine which lacks in goodness and presentation.
Standards of personal presentation once expected from nurses has declined. Wearing a decent uniform to include a cap and belt has impacted upon the nurses self-pride and feeling of being a professional.
CB said it is not just about pay and I concur. Nurses do bully patients but we need to ask why. Patients are often treated as non-persons and react accordingly. One reason may be nursing staff tiredness.
Hospitals used to have their own Occupational Health Departments staffed by regular appropriately qualified nurses, now to save money occupational health provision is often contracted out at the expense of nurses health and wellbeing.
She didn’t say nurse’s bully patients she said patients, families at times treat nurses badly
But this is true for lots of jobs that pay far less. 12 hour shifts 4 or 5 days a week is quite normal ,and without the benefits like sick pay , pension and holidays above the minimum. Nurses will be surprised when they leave how bad things are outside..Think twice.
The decisions being made by dumb managers who cannot do nursing with skill led to this. Statistics applied to human beings always fails. Get the schedule human, get the pay reasonable, and focus on respecting everyone and the nhs works
Yes agree 👍
No job choice on many wards for duration of shift.. nhs is not supporting staff to have work balance and with family to support and no extended families to help cause a dead lock.
Long 12 and half hour shifts means... getting up at 5.20 am... for me. Start at 7... finish at 19.30 to arrive home at 20.15... whole days pass with no family interaction as whole day passed child going to sleep... no quality of life. Day of shattered body hurts and in recovery... this is nhs
@@xsentfromuk8938 I worked nights for decades. I retired last year. I feel great now. I doubt I could have retired at 57 if I’d stayed in the uk. Efficiency and micro control has destroyed so many lives for nothing gained but endless meetings and poor quality managers having a role in things they cannot comprehend
careworkers also give up after a while. There is a huge culture issue in many care homes.
I’m a clinical pharmacist and I completely understand…. I left hospital for general practice and I’ve been happier since
Nurses save lives. I have a lot of respect for these underpaid, overworked people. don't you think we ought to pay bankers and paper shufflers a little less and nurses a little more?
Unless the government want to nationalise the banks then it's got nothing to do with it. How about taking the 6 million pounds per day we spend on hotel rooms for 'refugees' from Pakistan and paying nurses properly?
@@Arthur_King_of_the_Britons always blame foreigners for your own failures right? It's always easier to blame others instead of owning your own s**t
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An agency nurse can earn anywhere between £40 and £60 an hour which means the agency is earning between £70 and £100 per hour if not more, if that agency nurse is there for 40 hours she's earning from £1600 a week and the agency is earning from £1200 for each nurse per week, added to that the 6 figure salaries of management and then you get an idea of where the vast amounts of money that the tories are telling us is being poured into the nhs is going, so money for employing more nurses cant be funded but huge amounts can be found for the supply of bank nurses on upwards of £40 an hour can............what is happeningn is the nhs is being ripened for privatisation. People need to read their history, the toriess were apoplectic when Nye Bevan first promoted the idea of a national health service, the tories kept voting against it. They fought tooth and nail to oppose it and ever since have wanted to undermine it and find a way to profit from it...the nhs is not safe in tory hands.....do some research and find out whats happened to the dental service of this country, people are doing their own dentistry in the 5th largest economy on the planet.
Good for her
Lots of nurses leaving because of body autonomy too!
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It is not just nurses that are quiting but health care professionals across the board, what about operating department practioners (ODP), accociate nurses, radiographers to name a view. I feel the stasticis are a much higher.
Similar thing happened with the nurses and other NHS workers in the 1980's under the Thatcher regime.
I was too, and left.
Not just nurses HCA’s also.
Last Friday at work just felt to leave but my conscious wouldn’t allow me. The patients need us 😊
Same thing here in Australia but instead of improving quality of life and pay increase to meet demand they are pushing unqualified nurses still doing their studies into emergency departments
Most nurses should not be nurses. They should change their profession
Happening in pretty much every country I know of- no surprises there. Go through worst heath crises in memory, treat them as disposable, pay them poorly....then wonder why no one wants to stay in it if they have any possible alternative options...
There was no health crisis and the health workers deserve all they get for supporting the scam.
Deliberate destruction of the west.
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@Pure Valyrian wrong conversation dude : I'm talking about people who put their own heath on the line, to help others. Not interested in engaging with selfish nutjobs willing to risk the live of the young,old & compromised because they either are too stupid to understand science or just like idiotic conspiracy theories.
It seems to be the past 10-15 years where things have gotten worse in almost any public facing job. I work in hospitality and even before lockdown the industry was haemorrhaging staff for pretty much the exact reasons these nurses are leaving, maltreatment from management and abuse from customers/patients.
Too much entitled people nowadays unfortunately who are very demanding and very rude towards those working in public facing jobs such as Healthcare professionals, Public transport workers and Hospitality staff which is why these industries are having severe staff shortages especially since covid happened back in March 2020.
Its a hard work. I quit that job and Im much happy now on my new Job not medical related. 😊
Same thing in Canada. Something isn't right.
@Norma Neumann explain.
I know a few nurses and doctors who’ve quit the profession! It’s sad but can also understand why. They’re short staffed, over stretched and underpaid. In the end, they also have to focus on their own mental health and well-being because being stressed 24/7 is not good for anyone’s well-being or for the patients they’re looking after.
Truss did say Britain need to work longer hours to stay competitive, she liken to the Chinese 996 model and suggest UK should be on 48 hours week.
Why would anyone want to work in the public sector. The paperwork is excessive and the working conditions are hideous.
This is very upsetting news
Totally relate . Currently a dental nurse working in an NHS practice with some private as well . We had about 6 nurses quit due to stress .
I think the NHS is putting so much pressure on us to see 30 patients in a day for only 10 to 15 mins and we as nurses have to both help the dentist , sterilise the instruments and also do the job of the practice manager !
Next year I’m going to University to do dental hygiene and hopefully get into the dental private sector .
Dealing with the NHS is truly stressful .
I think it’s a rewarding profession but changes have to be made .
It has to be more private …
But why nurses have to work 12 hours instead of 8 .
Always been that way since 1970's,if you do nights it's actually 13 hours, as was in my case. And also on nights maybe 2 staff member's if you were lucky for 30+ patients.
So you're saying... standing outside and clapping for them did not do anything!? I am beyond shocked.
So privatisation of area's that are socially mandatory to have, doesnt seem to have been 1 of the greatest of ideas, has it? There was a time that working for parts of government was very attractive, untill they privatized them. All under the assumption that a free market would have the effect of delivering faster, better and cheaper healthcare. Couldnt be further from the truth: it's harder, less-paid, longer queues, and no benefits over commercial jobs.
what are you talking about?! these nurses are leaving the public sector, not the private sector
Move to Australia 🇦🇺! The money is better and so are the working conditions. I am registered nurse of many years and never looked back.
That IS why Many of your CItizen are leaving !?
@@aghileshemdani3144 also to become an NHS manager you need to have both a mental health problem and an extremely low IQ.
After your government's draconian pandemic response, North Korea would be more appealing 🤣
Right, like the mandates that have left thousands of health care workers without jobs? Australia has become a joke. My auntie in Australia was a nurse, frontline during Covid and got tossed aside for not wanting to have the vaccine forced upon her.
I know how she feels within, 3 months of doing a NHS Radiography course I suffered a stress seizure. Took 3 months to recover and was out of work too.
Teachers left as well at least 25 yrs ago
Too many people in the country.
You should consider investigating how student nurses are being exploited as Health Care Assistants under the pretext they are doing this for learning experience and to get practice signed off. It is a disgrace because, as students, we keep on reporting these problems but no one is doing a thing. We miss basic learning opportunities and we pay this course (£9.250/year) to work! At the end we are expected to function as nurses not HCA's.
Currently, I am on placement on a very busy ward and every morning during handover I get very anxious seeing that I could be by myself and if I am lucky other student, no health care assistant for the team. I have to do all the personal care, Observations, care and risk assessments, etc for 12 patients. I feel like I am being used at max capacity with no regards what so ever... I have reported the problem several times, but all I get is "not too long untill you finish, be part of the team" -> I am the team!
Maybe because the nhs are not retaining staff due to the over expectations put onto them. I get you are speaking from a learning perspective and what you need to be saying is why have we got no hca staff...
@@xsentfromuk8938 why NHS does not have enough HCA is not my place to say, but I do not want to pay a tuition fee to fill in some jobs. It is beyond disgrace.
NHS needs a major revision. In my trust, the pharmacy closes after office hours and nurses have to dispense medications for discharged patients. NHS pharmacy is just inefficient. Nurses also have to manage ventilators which shoudl be done by resporatory therapist. Plus the rididculous nurse patient ratio. I’ve worked in other hospitals in other countries and NHS has the worst system in place. And of course the minimal payment.
After 38 years, 35 in the NHS, I am glad to be leaving on 31st October. The NMC are next to useless, unions have been crap since the late 80s and you get screwed when you retire too
Its not only in England or USA, its all over the world..all because of the pressure covid in the last years. Another thing is the increased number of private hospitals that pay alot better.
My Aunt was a nurse, she said her experience was horrible, not with the patients (she understood their actions around their situations) but the nurses, the other nurses didn’t treat the patients properly. A patient would be screaming in pain and say that they are just exaggerating, they’d beg for just 1 painkiller and the nurses wouldn’t give it because they were ‘overreacting’.
My daughter had similar problems one nurse couldn't take her temperature properly
Well as a nurse she took an oath to be an advocate for her patients, so she failed them. What's the point of complaining to her relatives but still go to work with the unprofessional nurses. She is as guilty as them. You need to talk to your bad Aunt.
Nurses like that ruin the reputation of the profession. They should’ve been referred to the NMC
@@ludy41 Exactly
I find that a bit curious. You're telling me ALL the nurses are doing the same thing and she didnt feel the need to report it? That is a cop out for something else on her part