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The Ultimate Guide to Minelab E-Trac & CTX 3030 Deep Iffy Signals Metal Detecting Live Digs
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- Опубліковано 3 січ 2017
- This is the ultimate guide to deep signal targets on the Minelab E-Trac and Minelab CTX 3030. I have put together several of my live digs on supper deep iffy targets and show you the different FE numbers as well as audio signals that those deep targets produce.
He is 100 % right I find deep silver coins with high fe numbers as high as 27 fe. I run wide open etrac with only 30 to 35 fe notched out. And don’t use any disc in upper left hand corner like many people do as well as stock programs because you will likely miss silver dollars and some half dollars. Using less disc. Will allow your machine to go deeper and react more naturally to a targets I.d.
When I bought my Etrac 4 months ago this made no sense to me but now it makes so much sense! Too much discrimination you won’t find very deep targets or good targets in the iron. Goes to show they are in fact tone machines. Brilliant video thank you.
Pretty much the best video on Etrac. With your instruction i have found multiple rings
Thanks Adris! Glad you liked the video and it has helped you find some cool stuff =)
Thanks for the kind words Andris glad the video has helped =)
Thank you very much for the excellent informative video. I bought an Etrac four months ago and your videos have taught me a lot.
Glad they have helped comments like this are what keeps me posting =)
Thank you. I've been using E-Trac for 5 years maxed out, just month ago I upgraded to CTX 3030. And I have learned a lot from your video... I'm now guessing how much deep goodies I have missed(not dug) in the past... :D
Maybe go back to your old sites and find some more =)
This is the best video, on how to focus on the good audio that you want to dig with minelab that I have ever watched. Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words Chuck glad you liked it =)
Believe it or not, I just bought a new E-trac new. I have a Nox 800, but they're running the E-trac out in Australia for like $550usd, so I grabbed one. I'm just trying to get the basic gist of a few things before it turns up tomorrow, to get me started. I'm super interested to see how it goes. A couple of my older friends still swear by it with a 13" or 15" coil and think that I'll get finds from places I've hunted out with the Nox....we'll see :)
Had my etrac about a month now and this video makes so much sense. Thank you for confirming what I thought I had figured out
Just got the E trac today because the deus doesn't wanna hunt. My hunting buddie has hunted our town out almost with it, so ima try to give him some competition. I hear there is a serious learning curve, so I'm off to the races. Nice helpful info...now I have to get a NEL...
No town is ever hunted out, especially by a Deus =)
@@cutaplug Love your response Cutaplug. I am retarded and cannot program a metal detector, or struggle doing so. I owned a deus, and hated it. Only thing I liked, it had a clock, and it's so nice to know what time it is when you have to be somewhere.. I think the dues was made only for Europe.
I learn a little something from every video you put up. I sat my CTX next to me this time and said .. Just watch, okay? We did, Thanks Rusty.
hahaha too funny thanks for the kind works! GL and HH =)
Some of my best finds have been 9+ inches with the etrac. I rarely pay attention to the numbers. If the sound is consistent with any kind of squeak, it is dug. Got 3 halfs, numerous dimes/quarters, and a Draped Bust in 2016 that way. Low and slow when I find any old coins. Love that machine!
Good video. I am a NEW CTX3030 user. Never had the FE numbers explained this well. I was thinking they had to be along the 12 line.
thanks for making this video! Too many videos only show the digging part, and sometimes not even that, when people like me need to see the numbers and hear the sounds. Thanks again
Glad you like the video Dennis GL in 2017 =)
I made an Etrac screen protector out of an iPad version 1 oe version 2 screen protector. You can get a number of protectors if you cut it up properly and the entire sheet only costs $5 on Ebay.
I recently bought an Etrac and have been trying to understand all the sounds. I have read the manual and the additional book. I am getting better about shallow targets and to my folly have passed up signals like this. Your video was very helpful and greatly appreciated!!! I know I have to go back and work those tones!! I subscribed too. Thanks again !!
I'm thinking about buying the NEL 12x13" coil for my ETRAC after watching your ultimate guide to Minelab E-TRAC & CTX 3030 deep iffy signals metal detecting live digs. I was considering buying a Deus but decided to get the coil and give it a try. I have a lot of places to go back and see if it will pick up the iffy signals I was getting with my stock and 6x8 coils. I have watch a lot of your videos and you seem to explain how to use the E-TRAC to where I get what you are saying. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us, I really enjoy watching.....................
Best info on finding deep coins with the E-Trac / CTX-3030 that I have seen yet. I have been paying way to much attention to the "12" on my CTX. Can't wait for the weather to let my use this information. Thanks!
Thanks for the kind words Ralph! GL and HH =)
For all the new detectorists out there watching this for the first time, do not dig a massive plug like this in a public park. With accurate pinpointing the plug should be half this size and the sod should always be cut with a hinge of grass attached to the original sod so the grass has a chance to recover. We are losing the rights to hunt in many locations because of poor recovery and plugs popping out with mowers. Don’t leave a trace and we will have a future for this great hobby.
Agree 100%
I was thinking the same thing and cringing as I watched this and his other videos. The only thing I'll say to the contrary is that sometimes, a very deep and narrow hole doesn't leave a lot of room to maneuver, but the solution is to dig wider toward the bottom of the hole. Avoid making the top of the hole wider if you possibly can.
Totally agree with everything. I’ve been using the etrac for about 12 years. I go mostly by sound though as well. I look at the numbers to see what I have. Have mine setup so the silver is a little higher toned.
I have a new CTX 3030 (First Minelab) that is supposed to come Fed X today 2/28/17... :?) Needless to say I've been watching UA-cam videos Day and night to learn it before it gets here ! I want to thank you Cutaplug... This is absolutely the best explanation of how to understand and successfully use Minelabs discrimination (I watched it at least 5 times to drum it in!). This video will make it likely that I will do well first time out !!! Kudos to you dude !
How did you get on with it ?
That is exactly what I was thinking. One day I hope to move up to the E Trac. Thank you again. I will put your advice into practice.
Cuta. Just wanted to say that your videos are some of the best if not the best I've seen on digging deep silver. I hope Jewelry hunting is going good and hope to see some of those videos soon. Thanks a bunch
Hey Rusty, Thanks for such a great video, as usual. I got an Etrac last year and primarily used AUTO +3. After watching this video I went out to one of my hunted out locations. I used 22 manual. I dug my first DEEP silver, not one but two. Last year I would go over something iffy and put it in quick mask and the signal would improve drastically! So my brain always said alright something good. NOPE..... Key thing is after watching this video I understood that if a iffy target doesnt change after going to quick mask chances are its a DEEP keeper. I dug about 6 deep coins. All 8-10 inches deep. One was the whole length of my TRX PP. Found 2 Merc's this deep. Also, I noticed you like the Nel Vs the Ultimate. I dont see very many people down the Ultimate coil.
The question I have for you is during this hunt I was running the Nel Big 15x17 coil. What I was going to do is get the 18x15 Detech SEF coil, then do some comparing with the too. Just wanted your thoughts and have you ever used the 18x15 SEF coil?
Thanks Pal
Glad you were able to get some deep coin! I don't have any experience with the huge coils but would love to hear your feedback once you give them a try. GL and HH =)
Ok, I just bought a Etrac and its in the way. My hunting buddy is doing really well with his. But I have to smile when you call a deep target at 10 inches. But yes I think silver is silver and I really dont care about targets over 10 inches. This video really helped me understand the manual I read online.
The Etrac is great for silver coins and I think you'll be really happy with it. I'm not sure what you mean when you say you have to smile about a 10 inch silver coin. Do you think that's an exaggeration or do you think 10" is shallow on a silver dime?
Cutaplug Metal Detecting ten inches is normal unless your in boost mode on a F75. But I really enjoy the videos. Thank you for sharing
I really want to see you do a video on the conditions necessary to successfully and consistently find deep silver. You mentioned doing one but I haven't see it. Thanks for sharing your wisdom and experience.
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Thank you so much for the education! I love it! Found myself dictating notes
Thanks for sharing your experience! Plus your dig. Very well done, a 3030 is in my sights after using a ATX. I'm looking for more info as to whats in the dirt. ATX is incredible & will find metal slivers & BB's 8 to 10" in sand. BUT....about to leave the lake shore for inland adventure & there's a lot of "stuff" the old man would rather have more info on before committing the shovel. I subscribed so keep it coming, thanks again,
rusty thanks for the video appreciate the time you put in to help other people your the man hope all is well with you i had back surgery a month ago so im out of commision till march probly H.H.
Ah that sucks hope you get to feeling better. Guess you'll have to play some Uncharted or something to keep busy lol
The first CTX video that actually gives me the info I've been looking for! Thanks!
Thanks for all your help .. just picked up a CTX .. and def a learning curve
Dumpsite Digger the more learning curve the more potential =)
Great training video !! Thanks for doing it....
Awesome video learning a lot heading out with my NEW E-Trac tomorrow
Rusty, you hit it out of the ballpark!!!! Great job & information !!!!
Thanks Jersey GL and HH =)
Thanks for taking the time to do this video. I really want to find those silver coins. Don't have the E Trac but I think the info you provided at the beginning will help me. GL&HH
I'd pay attention to the consistency and especially the moving part as it applies to a lot of different machines. GL and HH!
When I detected was sound alone was no vdi on first machine Garett TR machine and back then were low high tones back in the 90s
very helpful...getting my etrac Monday. ..this is the most helpful video I've come across so far....nice one dude☺
Glad you liked it! Good luck with that etrac I'm sure you'll love it =)
Thanks for sharing your experience once again !Awesome video!!
Looks like you only did 1 dig with the CTX. Then went back to E-TRAC, So how does CTX compare to the E-TRAC? Other than that awesome video!!! Just curious if the CTX was worth the purchase if E-TRAC is already owned.. I sent yea an email also...
Excellent video Rusty ! Can't wait till it warms up enough to unfreeze the ground .
haha it's that time of year isn't it lol Sometimes I forget cause in my area it's been unrealistically warm for this time of year. I live in TN and still have a single little flower in my flower bed =)
Thank you Rusty for a great video and all you do for us fellow detectorist.
Glad you like the video thanks for the kind words =)
Love this detector it does all that all these over hyped new ones
That was an awesome video! I don't use Minelab, but it makes me want one.you rock with silver, love to watch you dig those deep coins!
Thanks Fred! Maybe you should pick up a new minelab and go back to all your old spots never know what you'll find =)
Do we get those ctx settings for deep coins or a video anytime soon?
Greets
I also use the quickmask on most targets...thanks for posting
Ya it can tell you so much info when switching between the two =)
Just dug a barber and act like its nothing more than putting on your socks in the morning. Guess Im gonna love the etrac I just picked up.
Something really cool happens when you start to find silver coins. The more you find the more your brain learns to recognize them and the easier it is to find more. This snowball effect thing sort of happens. It takes a lot of work and hours to get to that point but once you're there it is sort of like putting your shoes on in the morning lol. JD and I got 25+ silver together in a single day TWICE within an 8 day period. Sort of makes you jaded after that.
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Lol. Got mine 3 months ago and ALL I dig is deep iron nails. Not fun at all. How's it been working for you?
Some of the best info out there for E-Trac
Thanks for the kind words Robert GL and HH =)
Thanks Rusty!! Love these informative videos.. great job. I've had the etrac for about 2 years now and love it! Keep these types of videos coming! HH man! Can you run down your settings, that silver sounds soooo sweet!
Thanks and HH to you too! I have a video on those exact settings on my channel if you want to check it out.
A very informative video Rusty. I learned a lot from it. Nice job!
Glad you liked it thanks for watching =)
OK, I want to learn detecting and not knowing how to start bought a minelab etrac and trying to learn how to use it. I am very near quiting cause I just don't understand the numbers and tones. Your you tube is very good and helped me but I need even more basic. Thanks.
I quit 3 times...lol. Just stay with it. I just bought an Etrac today.
Congrats on the silvers! Especially those deep Barber dimes! Great video and digs. GL & HH
Thanks GL and HH to you too =)
Great videos man I just got my etrac a month ago and have found a few silvers and a toasted Large Cent with it so far in a park I've hunted for two years with an F2 and an F70....been watching your videos to get a feel for finding the deep ones.Did the Andy S pattern you have the how to video on and I guess I need to set up a TTF pattern now too.
I had set up that TTF pattern for that site just cause I wanted deep stuff and felt lazy about going full TTF lol. The main part to keep open is the FE side when looking for deep coins. You can descim out some of the CO and still find really deep stuff. You do run the chance of a lower conductivity target masking a high conductivity target but the chance is very slim I'd say.
I want to find a crap load of silver! Great video!
I'm hoping to run through this machine like he does... This guy knows his detector
I set up the andy pattern last night mine didn't have the manual but i aint worried it is easy to use
Hi Rusty! I have a challenge for you! Your videos are AMAZING for helping us get DEEP silver...but..i'd like to get DEEP nickels too! Can you suggest a pattern for those as well? Also - on the CTX - what seperation option are you using? Low Trash/High Trash/FE-Coin or Ground-coin? And where are your tone breaks? Thank again for posting these amazing, helpful videos!
Silver dimes will hit around 44 or 45 but hit 46 quickly before going Down to 44 also.
In the first dig I noticed when you pinpointed the fe # went to 35, on my ctx I'm getting a lot of falsing from iron reading from 8-46 - 11-46 sometimes 12 fe is in the mix, I go to quick mask and shows to be iron with 33-35 fe # I feel I'm leaving coins behind sometimes when I decide not to dig (After the fact) what's the average of digging those type signals and indeed finding there was a coin with the iron? I replicated your E-Trac pattern for my CTX do you recommend any other changes using this on the CTX? (I know theyre pretty much the same other than audio. Thanks for your information, my coin count is going up since watching this video. HH!
Hi from Perth Australia. I have just purchased the etrac and CTX 3030. Can you let me know which uploads you have showing how to drive these things please. I've been four years on aGarrett AT Pro which of course is so basic in comparison to these guys. Many thanks. Subbed and liked. Cheers Chris.
Howdy:) Great video as always on this topic:) Haven't watched detecting videos in a while but had to see this:) This will help a lot of people if they get the basics. Tone first then investigate:) Was nice seeing you swapping programs like that. I don't think people do that like they should. That said, I don't have the TT program you are running. I've always used the basic relic then the changes. Might help me at the fairgrounds this spring if you have a link or video with that TT program. 140+ years of junk in a small area I'm still trying to get through, Plus that TT looks like it won't give me a headache as quick LOL:) I'm still trying to run a bigger coil there but so hard with all the iron!!!!!!! I know there is more deeper LOL:) Glad someone can put this into words and show, hard for me to explain. Sixth sense but so much more LOL:) All the best:) Axel P.S. Did get one silver washington, silver ring, and 14K earring so far to start this 2017. Now I'm done:( Lake Michigan shoreline is freezing now:(
Tone first then investigate is exactly right =) Too many people get caught up in numbers that they forget to listen and learn/grow with their machines. That TTF was something I put together because I was being really lazy that day and didn't feel like looking down every time there was a pull tab or can slaw. The idea behind it was to be able to take advantage of the TTF, open screen, and depth on super deep silver while discriminating lower conductivity targets. To be honest I don't even know what I had it set at but you can probably get really close to the descrim numbers by the screen shot. I know exactly what you're referring to when you say sixth sense. I've thought about that phrase a lot when seeking out highly productive sites to detect =) Grats on silver and gold already in 2017 I haven't even been out yet lol
Cutaplug Metal Detecting LOL, is hard to explain the sixth sense and tone first to people. I was thinking of the screen shot thing LOL:) All the best this new year:)
great ground you are on!
I live in Michigan & I've found on several occasions that I hit what seems to be a good silver target. Good FE & CO#'s and nice tone and the target stays in place. When I go to pinpoint, it'll hit with the FE in the high 20's to 30's and is off to the side of where I was originally getting my target. I've dug many of these and just pull up nails/iron. I always check my holes and nothing. Is what is happening a false halo effect? or should I be just digging deeper and more after I remove the iron. Thank you and thanks for the video's..!! Love watching and learning..!!
Pay attention in the future and see how many of the nails you find like this are bent at a 90 degrees. Sometimes bent nails really can trick you and you just have to deal with them. If you're digging straight nails like this I would pay attention to the FE number and if it goes over about 25-26 skip it. The FE in the 25-30 range is where you start to lose efficiency. GL and HH!
nice vid! wish we could all look in fields with low grass :)
Thanks! I look really hard to find those types of places =)
You say the FE numbers are the key? It seems to me the Co numbers are more consistent and the Fe is jumping all over the place?
You mention you have a video on how to set up your pattern on the E-Trac and I'm guessing it's the same on the CTX. Trouble is, I can't find the video. Can you, or someone following you, point me in the right direction. Thanks.
Ive been using the Etrac for a few seasons with success. Today i followed the instrucrions at a area that has given up lots of old coins. Dissapointed to find a nail a the bottom of a hole a few times . Using the Andy S pattern following the video. Can you please help me address this issue? Thanks
Running the CTX3030 for about a year now. Switched from the CZ-3D. It performs meh-ok but I am having trouble getting any decent find deeper than 5-6 inches. My CZ seemed to outperform my CTX and was more accurate on determining the depth of coin sized targets. Read Andy Sabisch's book. Tried multiple target separations, hunt primarily open screen, mulitple modes. IDK what im doing wrong but the thing does not want to perform like what i think a 2500$ detector should. Nulls a lot, falses a lot, iron infested areas are a total bust. Even purchased the 6" coil. That thing gives me a coin tone and ID for every piece of iron there is. No separation at all, no iffy signal. Im at the point where I want to send it in just for piece of mind. Im just pretty frustrated when I watch videos and people get iron in the hole with a coin and its sounding and reading like I think mine should. Im not sure about mineralization. Ive tried the ferrous coin and ground coin and tried enabling ground balance a few times with worse results. High trash seems to be the most stable but im still struggling.
Having trouble pinpointing too. IDK if its my technique but I dont think so. I spent years detecting mines and IEDs in Afghanistan so i have a fairly decent technique for pinpointing and sweeping, ive tried cross method and the DD specific wobble-back or whatever that is.
Anyway.. thanks for making these vids. Would like to get a channel going myself. Here in the midwest we dont have many people with channels. Maybe I should put some time into editing vids as i have tons of footage from my go pro. Good luck this year! HH
What state are you from and what are the soil conditions there? It sounds like you are in an area with very high mineralization or you are hunting sites with very high levels of trash and iron which is not what the CTX is good at. 10" silver dimes are possible in low to medium trash areas without a lot of minerals in the soil. But I have found 9" coins in TN red clay too where it is pretty high mineral content. I also use a larger coil when looking for deep coins so that helps with depth too. GL and HH =)
I live in Minnesota. Im not sure how to measure mineralization. And yes, I do hunt trashy old sites often. Maybe Ill just try to go slower. Thanks for the advice man!
ctx go low go slow
So ? Your saying "Quick Mask" is.... "Open Screen" on the CTX ?
Thanks you for the information friend
Using a ctx3030 with a 17" coil. I'm looking for a pint glass container of pennies buried 70 years ago at the base of a tree. Of course there's no way to tell how big the tree will be at this point. Any chance something like that will still be detectable? I'm thinking if still there I won't be able to get the coil directly over the jar. I know that's a hypothetical; just need an opinion. Thanks for the excellent videos.
Sure it will stll be detectable. Just remember to use an open pattern because it's hard to tell what metal the lid will be made of. GL!
Hi sir what is the deepest maximum range underground if it is bigger object gold maybe let say 2kls or bigger?
Cutaplug.....I am looking forward to going out again just to see if what you say is correct, and I don't have any reason not to believe what you are saying. Are you from the Pacific Northwest? Aside from that, I have gotten those signals while out and didn't dig them, but from now on I am digging them, for sure!! I have a difficult time understanding how coins can sink that far down!! I can tell you that if someone was to put together a class I would pay to play!! Your videos should help keep me from passing up any more squeakers.....
I don’t see any of your links in the description.
nice video think ive missed some silver. time to go back and dig in the snow
GL Ed hope you find lots =)
Great video very informative I have been using the Andy s pattern I programmed into my etrac from your other video, I love this pattern use it all the time with the help of quick mask 😷 I find I can quickly go from 1 to the other so that has helped me out heaps.. I also have had a lot of iffy signals like that I ignore normally now I will have to go back and detect all the old sites again ha. I subscribed to your channel would be cool if you check out a few of ours cheers from cointector Australia
Great Video Rusty. Thanks for Sharing Your Knowledge! All The Best for 2017! Gregg
Thanks Gregg! Best of luck to you in 2017 too =)
Hi! Nice video.. I was wonder what do you think about Coin Master metal Detector?
Great finds!
Thanks!
You mentioned one of your video has the pattern (Andy S), which video is that?
Are you going to post any new video soon
Eventually yes! I'm still alive just busy =)
awesome video! I feel like I should pay you for this.. thanks.
What do the numbers 14 35 or any of the etrac numbers mean and why? how does it relate to the tones?
By the way, which shovel are you using? (and a source if you would) Thanks!!
Never mind. I saw the link and description on another video. Thx.
Lesche Pro T Handle Shovel in case anyone else wants to know =)
Is the Andy's program a custom program or is it one of the factory programs on the e-trac. If it is a custom program are the factory installed programs good for finding deep coins? Awesome finds btw Cutaplug I am hopeing to get a E-Trac this Spring. GL&HH
The Andy S. is a custom pattern and I have a video on my channel that shows how to set it up. The factory settings are OK for finding coins but I would work my way up to a more open screen and higher manual sensitivity eventually for the deeper stuff. Spend some time with factory and auto +3 for a while and then try Andy S. =) GL and HH!
I notice you have the sensitivity off, Smart, I'm finding I get more depth that way....
I saw 1 guy... that ran his on Ferris instead of conduct. and seemed to have a more pure tone on silver. Have you ever experimented with that?
What do you mean when you say more pure tone on silver? I would consider the CTX to have a more pure tone on silver (it doesn't jump around as much) but it makes it harder to distinguish a silver coin from non silver. With practice on the CTX it can easily be done. I have run a lot of TTF before but haven't messed with multi Ferris.
I'm considering a E Trac... I currently run a Explorer II. The CTX would be way out of reach for my budget. About the more pure tone on Silver.. I saw a guy do air test of different silver coins... in Conductive mode then on Ferris mode.. and the silver seemed to give a more pure tone ID ... to the ears in ferris. He had a explorer II but I'm thinking the etrac would do the same. Logic or my logic says the conductive mode would work better on silver... now I'm not so sure. That guy's video is titled ... Minelab Explorer Air Test... UA-camr... Mike Leary. Was interesting. I'll be doing some experimenting.
I do all my experimenting in field because I feel it provides the best results. What I would do is set up both user modes and have them ready. One for deep coins in conductive and one for deep coins in Ferris. Then spend some time finding deep signals in one setting, when you get one switch to the other. You will soon realize which works best for you in your area. GL and HH!
Just wanting to start hunting and was wondering for the money is the ctx3030 that much better than the E-trac ?
I am currently looking to upgrade from my whites v3i. You think this CTX 3030 would be the best for coins or do you think there is a better one?
I have a E-TRAC and sometimes when I'm detecting I get a signal that is close to the surface. When I go to pin-point it the depth drops way down say to 6-12 inches how come it dose that? what would it be?
Honestly I don't use pinpoint so I have no idea. Sorry I couldn't help =)
I was digging everything thing tonight found a quarter spill
Question: when choosing tones. I don’t like the 50 CO that it’s usually set as. If I switch to 4 tones. Which one do I want to use to find Silver? 4 FE or 4 CO?
To be honest I don't have that much experience with 4 tone FE. I like running 50 CO because there is a lot more information in the tone and I can cherry pick easily. I do know that the FE numbers will jump all over the place on very deep coins so I would be careful about the FE tones. For example the FE tone will be cut off at a certain number (maybe 17FE?) but if you're only digging the high tones you can miss a deep silver coin if it reads in the 20's on the FE line (which often happens). I have found the CO numbers to be much more stable than the FE numbers on very deep coins so I would probably stick to CO. The reason 2 tone FE numbers will sound louder and more clear than 50 tone is because with FE it's almost like an analog audio signal (beep or don't beep) but if you're comparing 4 tone vs 4 tone I'm suspecting the results would be similar. A good test would be to go to an area where you know there are deep coins, find a deep coin signal, then switch between the two and see which you prefer. Or you could just bury a super deep merc and test that way.
what is the other settings with this silver programme cheers Dave
Awesomeness! Does this FE scenario apply to non silver coins such as wheaties?
Edward Deaton yep same on copper =)
Rusty,
On my E-trac, When I set it up like your and bring the sensitivity up, it makes constant noises like its going crazy. I usually have to tone it down a few. When you machine does this, am I to assume you do the same thing? Or are you keeping it up and ignoring all the noises until you find a good signal.
Bryan, Vero
This is normal and part of getting better. The more you practice the more your brain will learn to distinguish good from bad signals. Eventually you will be able to detect very quickly at high sensitivity. You will receive a lot of information and be able to decipher it and primarily dig the good tones. I think an important part of being able to find a lot of silver is to be efficient. This means 1. covering a lot of ground quickly, 2. being able to distinguish good from bad targets so you don't waste time on the bad ones. The 3rd part is gaining an advantage by finding deeper targets running higher sensitivity. So basically I detect fast with the etrac, receive a lot of signals, and decipher those to find the good targets. You have to be careful though because you will get "brain fatigue" if you are running your sensitivity too high for your ability and at that point you will start to even miss the good signals. Even I do it sometimes and have to take a break by reducing it some. If I feel like having a lazy day I will either add more discrimination or reduce sensitivity so I can relax =)
I have both ctx 3030 and etrac and I will tell you the 3030 is not any more powerful than etrac. I actually like my etrac more because it has better sound for high conductors like silver. Silver is actually higher pitched than the clad. The etrac has variability setting that the ctx lacks. Not sure why minelab did not put in ctx but it’s a bit disappointing.
Hi bud, I've got the CTX-3030. my question is I get a high squeak tone when on coin mode and end up digging rusted nails and beer caps . why does that happen . those targets should be discriminated out . Very frustrating. Any advice. Thank you Big Mex
Big Mex Etrac is the same damn way. Its starting to piss me off. Not very fun when you're digging your ass off and come home empty every time.
I like your you tube but I am a first timer. Can you please get more basic and have a detector to show us what you are speaking of. Please explain the terminology definitions, why do the numbers jump all around? what do they represent? explain what I am seeing on the screen. Please explain different numbers for different metals? What is quick mask and how does this relate?
can you add a link to the u tube channel please so I can copy settings your using. ....thanks fella
It's on my channel.
OK, great video, I love all the info. Now, do I need, or maybe, if I get a larger coil will I be able to get even deeper. And if so, which one would you recommend? You were refer'd to my someone of Friendly Metal Detecting dot com.
Some really great info. Learned something new. Is this the same pattern that is in Andy's book on page 135? if so do you use all the same settings? I have heard you talk about 2 tone fe. You tried 2 tone fe on the ctx to pull deep coins in iron? If so what settings do you use for 2 tone fe. I usually hunt using a open pattern with a little disc. but, want to try this pattern in the video to see if works better than mine. Thanks
It's been years since I set the pattern up so not sure what page number it was on. I'm not even sure it's the exact pattern but I'm sure the settings are different. The settings are something I created based on Andy S., Goes4ever, earthmansufer, and my own experience with deep coins. I have a video on my channel of my exact settings and pattern I use for deep silver and I've used the same ones for years with great success. I got the CTX in TN and almost all the coins here are shallow so I haven't dug that many deep coins with the CTX. The CTX and e-trac are extremely similar so I would say it will perform the same way as the e-trac in that regard. An open pattern is great for finding coins but you have to find the right balance so you don't get brain fatigue and start missing good targets. If you hear 100 signals in an open scene and miss the 1 good signal in there then it would be much better to have discrimination on and hear one good signal and dig it.
Would love to see some videos of you hunting deep coin targets using the CTX. I have learned a lot about what I know from my friend Ed Huffman. Have bought several CTX's from him. Mainly interested in the patterns you use and where you set your fe line in combined. Do you know if there is a way to set the CTX up to give that high pitch flutty sound on silver like the etrac gives you? Just wondering Thanks
There is a live dig in the video with the CTX but to be honest there are way more shallow coins here in TN than deep ones. The CTX will act pretty much identical to the e-trac on deep stuff. As far as the combined settings I messed around with combined a little but wasn't that impressed with it so switched back to the multi tone conductive. The last stretch of detecting I did I found 136 silver in less than 3 months using the CTX, Andy S., and multi conductive so i'm absolutely positive that it works. I think too many people get caught up in trying to find the perfect settings when it's actually about using as much of an open screen as you can and learning to quickly analyze the audio signal and number readings to dig good targets. As far as the flutty sound you can't produce the same flutty sound on the CTX I think due to the more stable circuitry. You can definitely tell silver from non silver coins by looking at the numbers and though.
I guess I will have to try 50 tones cond. I have always used combined on the CTX. I have always used a almost totally open screen until I seen the pattern you were using in your videos. Seems like most the places around my area have iron in them so I deal with iron falsing. Was hoping your pattern would help with that. And yes silver coins are a lot deeper in my area.( North Vernon, Indiana ) Most silvers are 7 inches plus. Most the places I have hunted are spots that most have given up on. Older sites that are high in iron or trash. Thanks for your help and keep the great videos coming.
Great Video!!! Thanks so much for sharing your deep silver knowledge 😃
Hey what's the best coil for the etrac? For digging deep signals?