WOW!! It does take it almost to perfection!! May be just my ears....40+ years of performing at JET ENGINE LEVELS...I would add just a TINY TOUCH more Gain. Again, probably my ears and just my opinion....which doesn't mean squat!!! Great Demo and thank you for doing it!! R.I.P. Eddie. He will be missed for eternity. 🤘😇🤘
great demo. you are 100% correct. at first, it sounds like it's the right sound without the pedal. but then once the pedal is on, you realize the graphic eq was definitely part of the sound, and it sounds not-quite-there without the pedal. i like both sounds, with and without the pedal. but with the pedal is definitely more authentic.
I own this! It's from the early 80s. It works and I like it. Currently I'm not using it because I don't have an electric guitar. UGH! Someone - no names here - made a video that sang the praises of it and the prices shot up. There's not many on the market currently. You just have to keep an eye out.
Got to Sub any channel that plays the Holy Grail on such a level. The more I review the works of EVH the more convinced I am of his enduring greatness. I grew up on and with the music in the greatest era. I took it for granted to many years. The more I revisit it the more in awe I am of the band and the man known as EVH. The most powerful initials music may ever see.
There's something very emotionally moving and meaningful how and in what you wrote that, I very sure is so very true for most everyone including Valerie. Even saying, Eddie was definitely a superior musician, is an understatement. He had a genius mind for his craft! And, can I remind everyone as, most or many are oblivious to this fact: Eddie was passionate about keeping his tone HIS TONE his own. He verrry passionately wanted to keep it private -exclusice to himself! Is there anything wrong with that or in any way dishonorable about that? No, not at all. So, that included lying about what he was and wasn't using -in the effort to keep it private. Two of the lies he stated, "Alex's drum tone is apart of the "Brown Sound." Or, he also stated "the Brown Sound means, a warm tone." The term comes from, when there was a slight or half power outage, it was called, a Brown-out. So, when Eddie used a Variac which he had his amp plugged into and, he would lower the electricity to his amp thus, he did a Brown-out to amp. THAT is why he called it the Brown Sound. And, the amp he was using was also apart of his secret. It was his 1963 blonde Fender Bandmaster which, he privately said, that amp head into the Marshall cabinet was more important to him than his Marshall head was. He also privately said, he wrote/made the first three albums using his Bandmaster throughout those songs. So, along with several independent boost stages from a) his Boss GE-10 and b) the boost in his Echoplex unit. c) the pickup was the Semour Duncan Custom. Then later on, d) EVH WOLFGANG -a exceptional awesome pickup!!! His "Brown Sound" was him doing a electricity brown-out to the amp head with the aforementioned a) and b).
I was Jack Bruce's tech in Spectrum Road and on his Hartke amps he used the exact same EQ curve on the graphic.and had a punch that reminds of this, so I'd say it's likely that Eddie did that, too... I've met Eddie a couple of times but unfortunately never talked shop...
@Teddy Davis I'm really curious if, by chance, you are related to an old friend of mine in the Memphis, TN area. The late and great Buddy Davis? Looking at your picture, the 2 of you could be identical twins. We used to work together at GC in Memphis before I got transferred to manage the store in my area...I'm no longer with GC. I saw your reply under mine, saw your picture and about hit the floor. He was probably 1 of the top 5 players in the Memphis area and it broke my heart when I found out he had passed. I swear y'all could be twins. Sorry to bother you if you are not. Take care.
I use a Digitech RP3 preamp for my VH tone, always cranked the EQ to simulate a cranked Marshall, Maybe I should get one of these to fully get there!!!
He stated in early interviews he had the EQ pedal to help compensate for differences between his guitars, mainly the destroyer (before he "sharked" it) and the Frankenstrat. The destroyer was his main guitar before the Frankenstrat was completed, and based on my own experience trying to build a superstructure, my guess is the EQ was set to add a slightly thicker tone to the Frankenstrat as opposed to thinning out the destroyer.
Yeah, you got super close. A 5150 iconic through a marshalll 425A cab (any quality speaker plus eq really) sounds super close, eq and speakers definitely make a major difference. I dig your vids, stay dope! Also, thank you!
Fun fact: Tom Scholtz uses the 'frowny face' EQ pattern almost exclusively on his guitar tones for the Boston records. You wouldn't think it given the sonic clarity of the albums but it is how he fit his saturated guitar perfectly in the overall mix.
I got the jackman 2 and the zombie 2, I play them both through seperate 4x12 marshall code 412 cabinets, using a a/b/y splitter to send the guitar signal to both amps. The built in distortion channel on these amps are great, the jackman gives me a jcm sound, and the zombie gives me a mesa boogie rectifier sound. Dont be fooled by their size or 20w rating, these amps are loud as hell. I put my valve heads away and use these nowerdays, that's how much they impressed me.
He only used the MXR 6 band on eruption on VH1 and guitars with low output live. The MXR adds almost too much distortion through a cranked Marshall. The Boss GE10 is much cleaner but he didn’t get those until after VH1 when they toured Japan. The key to his sound and the changes he had through classic era is Plexi, EP3 and pickups. He used EQ early on to drive long cables, the EC80 delay with poor impedance or certain guitars. I don’t think the EQ is his secret, his tone is a lot less gainy than most people think.
Well stated, I agree! I will bet what happened is, Ed went in to Sunset Sound to record VH1 without an EQ. Then at some point, either immediately at the mix desk to post production, EQ is added. Ed goes, "WOW, I really like that!" And then sometime later he gets himself an EQ, likely around the time of Japan as you mentioned.
@@freegee3503 I think VH1 was mostly exactly how they played live, and Ed had those MXR EQs already. He definitely used the EQ live and in studio for eruption, possibly for Im The One. By VH2 he had purchased the Boss EQs, hence the cleaner sound from then on.
Thank you, Jake! I was able to figure this out for my Pod Go - it's got the 10 band. Pro tip for the 10 band: -1 -1 +2 +4 +6 +6 +4 +2 -1 -1 It makes the perfect frowny face, and I based it off a screen shot of Ed's old Boss GC-10.
Badassery. Great tone but what’s better is you put your own flavor to Eddie’s licks. Most people don’t get the touch part that made Eddie so extraordinary
I own a couple of Boss GE 10's and I can tell you that Ed definitely used them to shape his tone! Especially Van Halen II, the ge10 is all over that album, you cannot get that huge tone without it. The growling lows and sparkling highs, took me a few years to figure this out. Kept trying to get that tone plugging straight into a super lead and it just can't be done! If you listen to Van Halen 2 closely you can hear the solid-state quality in the tone. They are a great EQ don't understand to this day why boss quit making them,cost i guess. The u.s. voltage ones are hard to find, the 100 volt Japanese ones are fairly easy to find but they are pricey but worth it. Tons of clean boost!
@@theonlysil2375 he uses it on eruption for sure due to the Univox EC80 and it’s poor impedance. He started using the Boss GE10 after they toured Japan. It’s possible he used it on VH2 but I tend to think he used a different pickup, different speakers and either used the 50w or pulled tubes from the 100w. There’s a Steve Rosen interview with Eddie during recording of VH2 where Ed briefly mentions using a ‘low powered amp’ to record with. Possibly referencing his 50w or pulling two tubes.
After watching this and your previous VH Jackman sound video I have to say you're pretty close but the thing missing is a very loud amp and the natural sustain you get from playing that loud a la Dave Gilmour. My J2 arrived today and I'm very impressed but OD channel all the way up didn't work for me but I've only used it for about an hour. Never owned a JCM800 but I did buy a 1978 master volume 100W for 35 quid in the early 90's, people just changed valves and never biased the amps .. Pre amp distortion too fizzy but output valve distortion when you could play it that loud awesome! ( you can remove 2 valves ( 1 from each side) and change impedance to run at 50W.) My J2 I just wish the clean channel would overdrive as much as my last Marshall in the UK did, a DSL401 combo, for the classic rock rhythm as I'm not a pedal person for overdrive, I live in Asia now and over Lazada you can buy a distortion pedal for under $10 with mechanical bypass including postage and it sounds ok. Do the utube and look for KOKKO FDS2, might buy one myself to just push the clean sound for Free/Bad Company rhythm.
That... is cool! Interesting, it not only boosts the mids but cuts the bass and treble, sounds like the bass is being cut more. With the EQ it takes the flubbiness (a word?) away. Just improves the sound.
Even saying, Eddie was definitely a superior musician, is an understatement. He had a genius mind for his craft! And, can I remind everyone as, most or many are oblivious to this fact: Eddie was passionate about keeping his tone HIS TONE his own. He verrry passionately wanted to keep it private -exclusice to himself! Is there anything wrong with that or in any way dishonorable about that? No, not at all. So, that included lying about what he was and wasn't using -in the effort to keep it private. Two of the lies he stated, "Alex's drum tone is apart of the "Brown Sound." Or, he also stated "the Brown Sound means, a warm tone." The term comes from, when there was a slight or half power outage, it was called, a Brown-out. So, when Eddie used a Variac which he had his amp plugged into and, he would lower the electricity to his amp thus, he did a Brown-out to amp. THAT is why he called it the Brown Sound. And, the amp he was using was also apart of his secret. It was his 1963 blonde Fender Bandmaster which, he privately said, that amp head into the Marshall cabinet was more important to him than his Marshall head was. He also privately said, he wrote/made the first three albums using his Bandmaster throughout those songs. So, along with several independent boost stages from a) his Boss GE-10 and b) the boost in his Echoplex unit. c) the pickup was the Semour Duncan Custom. Then later on, d) EVH WOLFGANG -a exceptional awesome pickup!!! His "Brown Sound" was him doing a electricity brown-out to the amp head with the aforementioned a) and b).
He never used an EQ live outside the controls on his amp, which I recall also had a push in the mids. EQ pedals in general are great for clean boost, it's the first pedal in the signal chain on my board and its the only boost I use with a high gain amp like a 6505 or Boogie Rectifier. It goes EQ into Crybaby into front of the amp. I leave everything else in the FX loop. In the studio the producers used EQ on every track and I think you nailed the curve with the mids being pushed.
We can't forget the variac also can't forget the EQ on the mixing board. We'll never know the truth about that but certainly it played a part. Having said that, when you triggered the Boss EQ it certainly sounded closer.
whats funny is i remember ed saying somewhere that he cuts the mids out, that he hated mids. but like you, evertime i cut the highs a bit and add more mids i get much closer.
Thank you for the awesome video. I do use a Marshall DSL 40CST with a Celestion Greenback Speaker that I bought new from Sweetwater. If you also want to have the Marshall Plexi sound try using a Boss Powerstak ST 2 pedal.
Great VH SOUND .. Jake ..in the PEDALBOARD ORDER WHERE DO I THE BOSS G7 ? AFTER DISTORTION PEDAL OR IN FRONT THE DISTORTION PEDAL? THANKS FOR YOUR HELP CHRIS FROM AUSTRIA!🤟😎🤟⚡⚡⚡
Its been awhile back when you posted about the pitch box as I bought one after seeing your video on it. How would that pedal work with this one and can you do a video of that , if it would work.
Ed started using a Harmonizer around Fair Warning I believe. If I remember correctly from old articles, he ran a line out of his main amp, went into the stereo harmonizer, then into two power amps and two speaker cabinets. He set the harmonizer about 3 cents sharp on one side and 3 cents flat on the other side. You can get a very similar sound with a Boss PS6 in Detune mode. If you run mono, there are -5 cents and +5 cents settings, and play with the Balance knob to get a desired mix of wet/dry sound. If you run stereo, there is a setting with -5 on one side and +5 on the other. Also very importantly, in a “normal” rig, this has to be done after distortion into a clean amp or in an effects loop if you use the amp gain. Unless you have three amps and do the wet/dry/wet setup like Ed did, and the two wet amps for the harmonizer are clean.
Hey Jake. Great video, insight, tone, and playing (as always👍) Kinda Off-topic question here. On the joyo jackman - have you opened it up and had a look inside? On mine there are four little orange trim-pot type things, any idea what these are and what adjusting them might do ?
Nice tone, but before his Peavy line came out EVH brown sound was from a lower voltage going through a cranked Marshall. There are videos of him out there stating this.
I realize he lied a lot but he said in the interviews he had the guitar doing what it was supposed to do. But in the beginning I think he didn’t use it. Great video sounds great
Well when everything is on 10, you need to get your EQ somewhere? I think that is the curve he went for, maybe just pushed up a bit. What cab were you running the Joyo into? Know any amps that do the Super Lead? I have a Princeton so I need to get a new amp or use a plexi style overdrive. Been looking at a few Marshall in a box pedals. I also have the Velvet fuzz which is supposed to emulate a driven Plexi with a fuzz, it can get you there on the tight setting with the fuzz at noon or lower and on the "tight" setting.
HI JAKE, CAN I USE THE BOSS GT1 MULTPEDAL IN THE FX LOOP OF THE JACKMANN.. ONLY FOR DELAY AND REVERB!!!??? THANKS SO MUCH AND REGARDS FROM AUSTRIA CHRIS
I have a different opinion...I "Thought" like most Guitarists,That the Magic was a MidRange BOOST, But from foolin' around... I saw/Heard the best tone was in a Mid CUT, I never used any EQ I use my Marshall for that (I'm not saying exactly how I do this) BUT will say, I turn my bass and treble all he way up and slap that MIDRANGE all the way off, With a few tricks in between.Makes it more ...Transparent"
I hear the difference and it sounds much closer with the EQ but don’t think it’s quite “strong enough”. Maybe add an EP booster in there? Still good take on it tho 🤘🤘🤘
I think there's an interview of Eddie where he says he'd turn all of the amp EQ knobs to 10. So I guess he'd do that with an EQ plugged into the amp? could he have dialed back some of the knobs to get a similar tone or is there more to it?
@@jaketanis3069 Thank you. Been a long time since I heard Feel your love tonight. Sounded awesome. Brought back some great memories. PEACE from Philadelphia
Somebody gave me that EQ cos it was lyingh around uselessly. Playing around with it - its warmer and more natural sounding than the ge7 which i also own. They really are rather different, frequences aside ….
I've used a MXR 10 band GEQ for years with great success. I have one also and specifically for a certain amp - Genz Benz El Diablo 100 head and it is the secret recipe for that amp, as folks already have a hard time dialing it in becuase of the "active" EQ of the amp. The MXR tames all the harsh frequencies that make it difficult to control... So yes, I think you may be on to something here... Nice job and thx for the video! ✌🏼
Eddie's secret sauce was power amp distortion..
WOW!!
It does take it almost to perfection!!
May be just my ears....40+ years of performing at JET ENGINE LEVELS...I would add just a TINY TOUCH more Gain.
Again, probably my ears and just my opinion....which doesn't mean squat!!!
Great Demo and thank you for doing it!!
R.I.P. Eddie.
He will be missed for eternity.
🤘😇🤘
Thank you very much!
Awesome.... I do agree with The More gain tho. Although Ed played pretty clean. The lead needs a bit More gain but The main parts are perfect
Keep the eq curve, turn it up another 3-4db, and then turn the overall gain of the eq up 6db and it should get you right there
great demo. you are 100% correct. at first, it sounds like it's the right sound without the pedal. but then once the pedal is on, you realize the graphic eq was definitely part of the sound, and it sounds not-quite-there without the pedal.
i like both sounds, with and without the pedal. but with the pedal is definitely more authentic.
Rocking the Walter Becker look. I like it! Great playing!
Totally. 70s Walter Becker.
I own this! It's from the early 80s. It works and I like it. Currently I'm not using it because I don't have an electric guitar. UGH! Someone - no names here - made a video that sang the praises of it and the prices shot up. There's not many on the market currently. You just have to keep an eye out.
How are the Bass Treble and Mids set on your Amp before you use the pedal?
OMG!!!!THANK YOU! THAT SOUNDED AWESOME!.I can't wait to try it
Sounds great with and without EQ. You've got some chops. 🤘
Thanks Mickey!
Wow, something I always suspected but never saw discussed. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Got to Sub any channel that plays the Holy Grail on such a level. The more I review the works of EVH the more convinced I am of his enduring greatness. I grew up on and with the music in the greatest era. I took it for granted to many years. The more I revisit it the more in awe I am of the band and the man known as EVH. The most powerful initials music may ever see.
Thank you!
There's something very emotionally moving and meaningful how and in what you wrote that, I very sure is so very true for most everyone including Valerie. Even saying, Eddie was definitely a superior musician, is an understatement. He had a genius mind for his craft!
And, can I remind everyone as, most or many are oblivious to this fact: Eddie was passionate about keeping his tone HIS TONE his own. He verrry passionately wanted to keep it private -exclusice to himself! Is there anything wrong with that or in any way dishonorable about that? No, not at all. So, that included lying about what he was and wasn't using -in the effort to keep it private.
Two of the lies he stated, "Alex's drum tone is apart of the "Brown Sound." Or, he also stated "the Brown Sound means, a warm tone."
The term comes from, when there was a slight or half power outage, it was called, a Brown-out.
So, when Eddie used a Variac which he had his amp plugged into and, he would lower the electricity to his amp thus, he did a Brown-out to amp. THAT is why he called it the Brown Sound.
And, the amp he was using was also apart of his secret. It was his 1963 blonde Fender Bandmaster which, he privately said, that amp head into the Marshall cabinet was more important to him than his Marshall head was.
He also privately said, he wrote/made the first three albums using his Bandmaster throughout those songs.
So, along with several independent boost stages from
a) his Boss GE-10 and
b) the boost in his Echoplex unit.
c) the pickup was the Semour Duncan Custom. Then later on,
d) EVH WOLFGANG -a exceptional awesome pickup!!! His "Brown Sound" was him doing a electricity brown-out to the amp head with the aforementioned a) and b).
I was Jack Bruce's tech in Spectrum Road and on his Hartke amps he used the exact same EQ curve on the graphic.and had a punch that reminds of this, so I'd say it's likely that Eddie did that, too... I've met Eddie a couple of times but unfortunately never talked shop...
Very cool!
What was he like in person
What is the story?
That eq definitely adds the emphasis of the note being played, spot on!
Thank you!
Dude you nailed it. The on off takes show just how important the eq pedal is. That’s a big deal.
@Teddy Davis
I'm really curious if, by chance, you are related to an old friend of mine in the Memphis, TN area.
The late and great Buddy Davis?
Looking at your picture, the 2 of you could be identical twins.
We used to work together at GC in Memphis before I got transferred to manage the store in my area...I'm no longer with GC.
I saw your reply under mine, saw your picture and about hit the floor.
He was probably 1 of the top 5 players in the Memphis area and it broke my heart when I found out he had passed.
I swear y'all could be twins.
Sorry to bother you if you are not.
Take care.
@@keithdarling8290 m
I use a Digitech RP3 preamp for my VH tone, always cranked the EQ to simulate a cranked Marshall, Maybe I should get one of these to fully get there!!!
Do it!
He stated in early interviews he had the EQ pedal to help compensate for differences between his guitars, mainly the destroyer (before he "sharked" it) and the Frankenstrat. The destroyer was his main guitar before the Frankenstrat was completed, and based on my own experience trying to build a superstructure, my guess is the EQ was set to add a slightly thicker tone to the Frankenstrat as opposed to thinning out the destroyer.
Very cool! Nice tone & playing too bro!
Just wow! U nailed the tone!
Yeah, you got super close. A 5150 iconic through a marshalll 425A cab (any quality speaker plus eq really) sounds super close, eq and speakers definitely make a major difference.
I dig your vids, stay dope! Also, thank you!
Fun fact: Tom Scholtz uses the 'frowny face' EQ pattern almost exclusively on his guitar tones for the Boston records. You wouldn't think it given the sonic clarity of the albums but it is how he fit his saturated guitar perfectly in the overall mix.
Nice tone exploration!
I got the jackman 2 and the zombie 2, I play them both through seperate 4x12 marshall code 412 cabinets, using a a/b/y splitter to send the guitar signal to both amps.
The built in distortion channel on these amps are great, the jackman gives me a jcm sound, and the zombie gives me a mesa boogie rectifier sound.
Dont be fooled by their size or 20w rating, these amps are loud as hell.
I put my valve heads away and use these nowerdays, that's how much they impressed me.
He only used the MXR 6 band on eruption on VH1 and guitars with low output live. The MXR adds almost too much distortion through a cranked Marshall. The Boss GE10 is much cleaner but he didn’t get those until after VH1 when they toured Japan. The key to his sound and the changes he had through classic era is Plexi, EP3 and pickups. He used EQ early on to drive long cables, the EC80 delay with poor impedance or certain guitars. I don’t think the EQ is his secret, his tone is a lot less gainy than most people think.
Well stated, I agree! I will bet what happened is, Ed went in to Sunset Sound to record VH1 without an EQ. Then at some point, either immediately at the mix desk to post production, EQ is added. Ed goes, "WOW, I really like that!" And then sometime later he gets himself an EQ, likely around the time of Japan as you mentioned.
@@freegee3503 I think VH1 was mostly exactly how they played live, and Ed had those MXR EQs already. He definitely used the EQ live and in studio for eruption, possibly for Im The One. By VH2 he had purchased the Boss EQs, hence the cleaner sound from then on.
Thank you, Jake! I was able to figure this out for my Pod Go - it's got the 10 band. Pro tip for the 10 band:
-1
-1
+2
+4
+6
+6
+4
+2
-1
-1
It makes the perfect frowny face, and I based it off a screen shot of Ed's old Boss GC-10.
Really good info, and your being a re-he-he-heally strong player does not hurt one little bit. This is another piece to the puzzle well done.
Badassery. Great tone but what’s better is you put your own flavor to Eddie’s licks. Most people don’t get the touch part that made Eddie so extraordinary
I own a couple of Boss GE 10's and I can tell you that Ed definitely used them to shape his tone! Especially Van Halen II, the ge10 is all over that album, you cannot get that huge tone without it. The growling lows and sparkling highs, took me a few years to figure this out. Kept trying to get that tone plugging straight into a super lead and it just can't be done! If you listen to Van Halen 2 closely you can hear the solid-state quality in the tone. They are a great EQ don't understand to this day why boss quit making them,cost i guess. The u.s. voltage ones are hard to find, the 100 volt Japanese ones are fairly easy to find but they are pricey but worth it. Tons of clean boost!
@@theonlysil2375 he uses it on eruption for sure due to the Univox EC80 and it’s poor impedance. He started using the Boss GE10 after they toured Japan. It’s possible he used it on VH2 but I tend to think he used a different pickup, different speakers and either used the 50w or pulled tubes from the 100w. There’s a Steve Rosen interview with Eddie during recording of VH2 where Ed briefly mentions using a ‘low powered amp’ to record with. Possibly referencing his 50w or pulling two tubes.
I absolutely loved your articulation of the running with the devil riff
After watching this and your previous VH Jackman sound video I have to say you're pretty close but the thing missing is a very loud amp and the natural sustain you get from playing that loud a la Dave Gilmour. My J2 arrived today and I'm very impressed but OD channel all the way up didn't work for me but I've only used it for about an hour.
Never owned a JCM800 but I did buy a 1978 master volume 100W for 35 quid in the early 90's, people just changed valves and never biased the amps .. Pre amp distortion too fizzy but output valve distortion when you could play it that loud awesome! ( you can remove 2 valves ( 1 from each side) and change impedance to run at 50W.)
My J2 I just wish the clean channel would overdrive as much as my last Marshall in the UK did, a DSL401 combo, for the classic rock rhythm as I'm not a pedal person for overdrive, I live in Asia now and over Lazada you can buy a distortion pedal for under $10 with mechanical bypass including postage and it sounds ok. Do the utube and look for KOKKO FDS2, might buy one myself to just push the clean sound for Free/Bad Company rhythm.
Thanks Jake, I am now convinced I need another pedal 😂😂😂 great demo 👍
Thank you! You always need jut one more ;)
MXR 10-band EQ is a good one. The Boss GE-7 is great tho. Fun vid, bro. Keep rockin!!!😎👍🎸🎸🎸🎸🍕
Yep I've had both.
Thank you!
Sounds great. Awesome tone
That... is cool! Interesting, it not only boosts the mids but cuts the bass and treble, sounds like the bass is being cut more. With the EQ it takes the flubbiness (a word?) away. Just improves the sound.
exactly!
Curt
You have just described
A studio compression sound. Big in the 70s.
Sounds awesome!
Absolutely his secret weapon and there’s so much you can do with the GE-7!
All the pictures of Eddie’s 1978 live set up shows one of those old blue 6 band mxr EQ’s
I’m sold. Thank you for helping me make up my mind 🤘🎸rock on! Evh rip
Tom Bukovac, Tim Pierce and Philip McKnight have sung the praises of this pedal...think I might have to splurge.
Go for it!
They're all right. It's a fantastic pedal for boosting and tone shaping!
I heard Eddie say he only used an eq to make each guitar sound similar??
Either ways you've nailed a really good eddie tone there bud !
Yep Jake EQ I need one👍
Rip.... EVH😢
RIP indeed
Sounds sick what cab are you using ?
Even saying, Eddie was definitely a superior musician, is an understatement. He had a genius mind for his craft!
And, can I remind everyone as, most or many are oblivious to this fact: Eddie was passionate about keeping his tone HIS TONE his own. He verrry passionately wanted to keep it private -exclusice to himself! Is there anything wrong with that or in any way dishonorable about that? No, not at all. So, that included lying about what he was and wasn't using -in the effort to keep it private.
Two of the lies he stated, "Alex's drum tone is apart of the "Brown Sound." Or, he also stated "the Brown Sound means, a warm tone."
The term comes from, when there was a slight or half power outage, it was called, a Brown-out.
So, when Eddie used a Variac which he had his amp plugged into and, he would lower the electricity to his amp thus, he did a Brown-out to amp. THAT is why he called it the Brown Sound.
And, the amp he was using was also apart of his secret. It was his 1963 blonde Fender Bandmaster which, he privately said, that amp head into the Marshall cabinet was more important to him than his Marshall head was.
He also privately said, he wrote/made the first three albums using his Bandmaster throughout those songs.
So, along with several independent boost stages from
a) his Boss GE-10 and
b) the boost in his Echoplex unit.
c) the pickup was the Semour Duncan Custom. Then later on,
d) EVH WOLFGANG -a exceptional awesome pickup!!! His "Brown Sound" was him doing a electricity brown-out to the amp head with the aforementioned a) and b).
Eddie used Variac as well. For the amp.
What other pedals did you use for effects? I hear reverb and delay
Just a TC flashback mini
@@jaketanis3069 Tape delay setting
He never used an EQ live outside the controls on his amp, which I recall also had a push in the mids. EQ pedals in general are great for clean boost, it's the first pedal in the signal chain on my board and its the only boost I use with a high gain amp like a 6505 or Boogie Rectifier. It goes EQ into Crybaby into front of the amp. I leave everything else in the FX loop. In the studio the producers used EQ on every track and I think you nailed the curve with the mids being pushed.
I use the boss ge-7 eq and the Beringer Eq 700 together, it's amazing when there set at the same settings.
yep tell dime that
My favorite evh guitar is the Kramer 5150 guitar love it
Sounds great
Thank you!
I miss my GE-7. I was partial to the "V" shape.
Great tool to have. Might not use it all the time, but definitely worth keeping around.
We can't forget the variac also can't forget the EQ on the mixing board. We'll never know the truth about that but certainly it played a part. Having said that, when you triggered the Boss EQ it certainly sounded closer.
Do you mind sharing the settings on the joyo amp please?
Great recording and playing too. Did you mic a real cab? Sounds like it
Yup! EVH 1X12
Ed used the EQ to cut the mids and as a boost alongside his wireless which also boosted his signal. Running with the Devil.... close but...
Hello!! :)
What is the name of the solo or song you play at minute 3:43?
Great video!!
Great ! Thank You 👍🏻
You are welcome!
I 've been putting a pedal board together and couldn't find a ten band eq so I bought a 6 band one and hope that works for now!
Check out the Caline 10 Band Eq, awesome little pedal. Got mine for around $45 on Reverb
Eddie using a 6 band is also rumored
whats funny is i remember ed saying somewhere that he cuts the mids out, that he hated mids. but like you, evertime i cut the highs a bit and add more mids i get much closer.
That's crazy considering his tone is basically all mids
What speakers / Cab are you running that Joyo through? Sounds Great :)
Thank you for the awesome video. I do use a Marshall DSL 40CST with a Celestion Greenback Speaker that I bought new from Sweetwater. If you also want to have the Marshall Plexi sound try using a Boss Powerstak ST 2 pedal.
Very cool! I haven't played through a powerstack pedal in a long time.
Great VH SOUND ..
Jake ..in the PEDALBOARD ORDER WHERE DO I THE BOSS G7 ?
AFTER DISTORTION PEDAL OR IN FRONT THE DISTORTION PEDAL?
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
CHRIS FROM AUSTRIA!🤟😎🤟⚡⚡⚡
EQ is usually last in a chain although others may prefer it elsewhere.
Do you put in front or in the loop? What is the order in the signal chain?
Ran it in front
Awesome !!!
Do you have changed the tube of the amp? Or the Original tube is inthere?
THANKS so MUCH!
What speakers did you use on this please?
is their a difference with the jackman you have and the red one? I know the gold one is limited but im not sure if its just a colour thing?
What aboute amp settings?🙏🏻
Everything at 10!
Yes really.
Its been awhile back when you posted about the pitch box as I bought one after seeing your video on it. How would that pedal work with this one and can you do a video of that , if it would work.
Ed started using a Harmonizer around Fair Warning I believe. If I remember correctly from old articles, he ran a line out of his main amp, went into the stereo harmonizer, then into two power amps and two speaker cabinets. He set the harmonizer about 3 cents sharp on one side and 3 cents flat on the other side. You can get a very similar sound with a Boss PS6 in Detune mode. If you run mono, there are -5 cents and +5 cents settings, and play with the Balance knob to get a desired mix of wet/dry sound. If you run stereo, there is a setting with -5 on one side and +5 on the other. Also very importantly, in a “normal” rig, this has to be done after distortion into a clean amp or in an effects loop if you use the amp gain. Unless you have three amps and do the wet/dry/wet setup like Ed did, and the two wet amps for the harmonizer are clean.
I've done it. It still sounds great. Man I still love the pedal!
The pedal is superb.
You run in the loop or up front? :) Thanks
Hey Jake. Great video, insight, tone, and playing (as always👍)
Kinda Off-topic question here.
On the joyo jackman - have you opened it up and had a look inside?
On mine there are four little orange trim-pot type things, any idea what these are and what adjusting them might do ?
Thanks 🙏🏻 Jake 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
You are welcome!
Nice tone, but before his Peavy line came out EVH brown sound was from a lower voltage going through a cranked Marshall. There are videos of him out there stating this.
Everyone knows that
the EQ pedal is on the FX loop or on the input?
nice!!! doesnt seem like you are volume boosting with the eq pedal much, correct?
Correct. Left it flat
Nice video and playing. What is is the signal chain? Where do you put the eq?
EQ is usually last in a chain but there could be those who place it elsewhere. 👍
I realize he lied a lot but he said in the interviews he had the guitar doing what it was supposed to do. But in the beginning I think he didn’t use it. Great video sounds great
You are on it, just need an Echoplex........i know they are expensive and rare
Well when everything is on 10, you need to get your EQ somewhere? I think that is the curve he went for, maybe just pushed up a bit. What cab were you running the Joyo into? Know any amps that do the Super Lead? I have a Princeton so I need to get a new amp or use a plexi style overdrive. Been looking at a few Marshall in a box pedals. I also have the Velvet fuzz which is supposed to emulate a driven Plexi with a fuzz, it can get you there on the tight setting with the fuzz at noon or lower and on the "tight" setting.
One thing.....
Slaving...
Dimarzio super distortion.... thata what eddie did in evh1
eddie plugged straight into a used and modded marshal amp that was cranked all the way up
HI JAKE,
CAN I USE THE BOSS GT1 MULTPEDAL IN THE FX LOOP OF THE JACKMANN.. ONLY FOR DELAY AND REVERB!!!???
THANKS SO MUCH AND REGARDS FROM AUSTRIA
CHRIS
HI BUDDY..
WICH BOX DO YOU USE FOR THE JOYO AMP?
GREEDS FROM AUSTRIA
CHRIS!!!🤟🤟🤟🤟⚡⚡🍺🍺🍺
Nice playing tone is good. The amp is brown enough it doesn't have that low end choppiness
i heard his amp had a weird mid pot of 50k instead of 25k. hence the mids
along with eq pedal
I have a different opinion...I "Thought" like most Guitarists,That the Magic was a MidRange BOOST, But from foolin' around... I saw/Heard the best tone was in a Mid CUT, I never used any EQ I use my Marshall for that (I'm not saying exactly how I do this) BUT will say, I turn my bass and treble all he way up and slap that MIDRANGE all the way off, With a few tricks in between.Makes it more ...Transparent"
The trick is to boost the 800hz BEFORE distortion, then cut the 400hz AFTER distortion.
What were the AMP eq settings?
Ikr
Right!
Secret Weapon ??
Guitarists have been using equalizers to boost their tube amps since the 70s...
I hear the difference and it sounds much closer with the EQ but don’t think it’s quite “strong enough”. Maybe add an EP booster in there? Still good take on it tho 🤘🤘🤘
Agree. A little push would help. Just boost the master level on the EQ
@@jaketanis3069 That will probably do it! Nice clean playing btw ! 🤘
And get a plexi
Yes, those Echoplexes had a preamp that boosted slightly.
It was part of it, no doubt. But it was one of several components needed to be combined together to get the Brown Sound.
Kerry King, EVH and a bunch of people make the frowny face on the EQ. Boogie Mark series users do the opposite and make a smiley face mostly.
I think there's an interview of Eddie where he says he'd turn all of the amp EQ knobs to 10. So I guess he'd do that with an EQ plugged into the amp? could he have dialed back some of the knobs to get a similar tone or is there more to it?
This is fantastic, just curious what delay settings did you use 🙈 toneprint or user and what set time too plz 👍🏼🎸
Not a tone print user.
Feedback/delay at 11 o'clock
Fx Level at about 9 o'clock
I use the mini by the way.
@@jaketanis3069 that's cool thank you 👍🏼
@@jaketanis3069 Thank you. Been a long time since I heard Feel your love tonight. Sounded awesome. Brought back some great memories.
PEACE from Philadelphia
Has anyone run the EQ in the amp FX loop before?
Yes, it works great to shape the tone.
But not with this setting, though.
That need to be in front.
most of us knew this. "heavy eq" was the term I remember Donn or Ted or Rudy or anyone who knew
Somebody gave me that EQ cos it was lyingh around uselessly. Playing around with it - its warmer and more natural sounding than the ge7 which i also own. They really are rather different, frequences aside ….
I've used a MXR 10 band GEQ for years with great success. I have one also and specifically for a certain amp -
Genz Benz El Diablo 100 head and it is the secret recipe for that amp, as folks already have a hard time dialing it in becuase of the "active" EQ of the amp.
The MXR tames all the harsh frequencies that make it difficult to control...
So yes, I think you may be on to something here...
Nice job and thx for the video! ✌🏼
I talk about this pedal all the time with
anyone will listen when I have had a few
too many TaNg and Vodkas🤪
What does the EQ do
Well EVH created the Brown Sound by Messing with the Voltage of his Amps with the Variac Voltage Attenuator really . 💯😶🌫️🧐😳🤨😵🤯🤔💫🌟✨💥🔥👀🙃🎸👍😉🫡💪😎
What a difference the GE7 makes. You made it sound 99% like Eddies tone. Let’s not forget the type of guitar and pickups matter a ton as well.
🤓EVH......ACTUALLY USED A 6 BAND MXR EQ BLUE PEDAL 1ST....B4 USING THE BOSS 10 BAND EQ🎸
Se parece un 10% al tono de Eddie.