Why isn't the Salamanders named the Dragons instead? It irks me to no end. WHY? It would instantly make them so much more awesome and awe inspiring. Anyhuu can some kind soul point me in a direction of a more appropriate venue for the Dragons of Vulcan discussion. Come on I want, Nay need Vulcan to be a flying destruction of superfire, and not a ground crawling bug eating lizard. Am I alone in this?
Khorne definitely would not refer to the space wolves as “ strange “ , have you seen the shit under his command? Space marines cosplaying as werewolf’s are normal compared to shit he has
-Teleports infront of an entire grey knights detachement and asks who broke the armistice? -Grey Knights grandmaster steps forward and asks for forgiveness. -Before anyone can react, Grimnar slices the grandmaster and four other grey knights open like fucking tomatoes. -Refuses to elaborate and teleports back to his damaged battle barge and makes the 10.000 year old flagship of the grey knights eat shit for good measure. What a fucking legend.
@@SvenTviking it is noted many places skilled users can sprint, any terminator could sprint, but the experience makes you better suited to not face planting, though I imagine the average marine already has much grace
I love it when the writers give Khorne and Khorne-aligned characters sort of a code of honor. They’re all about the slaughter, but respect, if you slay our champion that’s a job well done, and another skull for the throne regardless.
@@DJROCKSTAZ Sure, while we're at it, let's just bring ALL the heresy we can...Xenos, Mutants...Have at it, boys, girls and various alien monstrosities!
The image of Bjørn demanding to be teleported up to that ship to break up the battle has always struck me as potentially humorous. Just the idea of an Iron Priest questioning the order, followed by a dreadnought bellowing, "Did I f@#$ing stutter?!?"... well, it makes me smile 😁
@R O while I get where you're coming from, the inquisition is actually an *essential part of the imperium*. Sure they're a bunch of jerks, but the services they provide keep the empire from falling apart. If I remember clearly, those rejects you play as in Darktide come under the authority of the inquisition.
You don’t piss off Logan Grimnar. But more importantly, you do not gain the Ire of Bjorn the Fell Handed. Anyone that charges Magnus, and tackles him off the top of the Fang, crushing him under his dreadnought body. Is a badass.
months of shame is my favorite peice of 40k lore. inquisition laying siege on fenris: no chapter can stand against the inquisition. logan grimnar: how about a fucking legion.
He has one of the greatest, if not most subtle, lines in the emperor’s gift. Let me just set the stage for you: when grimnar meets with the inquisition there is a psyker woman trying to chastise him for not allowing them to study some chaos vessel that they destroyed. He turns to her, looking her dead in the eye and says, “Hush, witch. Don’t make me kill you.’ God damn still sends shivers down my spine reading that.
Space Wolves sure hate psykers; Wolf Priests aren't psykers tho, they channel spirits from Fenris, not at all anything to do with daemons, nope, just friendly animal spirits, yep yep /s i feel like it taps into that whole Norse thing of hating magic, with the exception of Odin's whole schtick about like giving up his eye and the Fates and runes and any other time it's convenient
I like the people saying "there is no wolves on fenris" space wolves : litteraly using thunder wolves for pulling the land boat of their chapter master
Well, I think you're not aware then, that those aren't wolves, but original colonizers of Fenris, that after being gene-modded to be able to survive the harsh climate, devolved and mutated. As such, there are no wolves on Fenris, because those are people. Probably.
@@Miestwin That idea has never been confirmed and since Fenrisian wolves are bigger than both normal wolves and humans it's unlikely that the blending of canid essenses into human genetics would create them. I'm going to offer the counter proposal that the wolves of Fenris aren't wolves because they aren't from Terra. Fenrisian wolves are simply xenos that look like enormous Terran wolves
Logan Grimnar sprinted in terminator armor, making strange noises come from the joints. This means that it wasn't the terminator armor powering Logan, it was Logan powering up the terminator. The inquisition understood that they couldn't mess with Logan Grimnar. I'd love to see the space wolves humbling the minotaurs, these guys are beasts tho. Even a custodes was afraid of their chapter master Chapter master of Minotaurs and Logan are some of the strongest space marine ever. Toghether with Kharn, Sigismund, and Dante I have my opinion, that if the strongest humans can take down an average space marine, then the strongest space marines can take down the average custodes. So yeah, in my opinion Logan has a chance to beat a normal custodes, but that would be a really hard fight
Made even more badass by the fact the scene was narrated by the grey knight who broke a deamon primarch's sword and who then proceeded to shit in his power armor at the destruction Logan was dishing out including dropping both him and his partner like they weren't even there while they were mind linked. Respect to the Great Wolf.
@@tirannusmark7ita679 you got a point surprised any stuck around after see this guy not only sprint but then stop and do a standing vertical leap that would put LeBron James to shame while still dragging said tank.
Yeah if they said: "This is Chaos, this is why it might tempt you, and this is what it will do to you." That would stop 99% of cults from forming. Some especially arrogant people might think they can control it, but still.
@@myself2noone Exactly. My pet peeve is the inquisition. Anyone with knowledge of them and their work must be executed, but they run around shouting' STOP. INQUISITION ' and flashing their badge 📛 If your an imperial commander and some random flashes his badge at you, you have 2 lore accurate options 1: Deny knowledge of the inquisition and get shot 2: Acknowledge the inquisition and get shot
@@myself2noone Even Satanic-panic era of State/Corporate PSAs on the civil public of Imperium's planets prevents 99% of the cult members from even establishing, it would redirect their public attentions to be productive yet healthily growing members of Imperium while having their development (and even innovations) doesn't got corrupted so easily by Chaos This is like horus heresy main problem is due to Emperor of Mankind being a bad dad, so it is humanity mostly messing up themselves for millennias of Warhammer settings, especially during Age of Apostasy, Month of Shame and the times they ruins xenos-alliances from taking down more of Chaos/Warp and Tyrannids/Orks infestations, it could even culling the problems of Drukharis if they could be more civil and patient in diplomacy, it's just idiocracy all around, despite "The End Times"/Wolf Time/whatever it is will probably never happens At least they can go All Tomorrows route but Space Marines looks cooler, Cawl being creatively productive for The Imperium in current 40K timeline is a boon for "movement and progression" as Fanfiction TTS EoM said about Magnus' confessions in episode 19
Space Wolves- constantly slandered by being called furries. Are actually a good legion and says "fuck off" to the Inquisition. [Always been my favorite legion.]
People who says that are either edgelord Iron Warriors or just a peasant who cant think for themselves. Space Wolves defenetly one of the best legions, and strongest "natty" (non chaos-sauce) primarch.
Russ is a retard who is basically directly responsible for the emperor getting fucked up and consequently the death of the human race and the dream of the Imperium. Couldn't stop Horus, didn't think twice about killing Magnus (Who is an example of a primarch far stronger than him and I think Magnus is boring as shit) because of his own petty shit and ignorance, his legion are so dead end and mutated they couldn't figure out how to make stable successors, encourages his own space marines to act like toddlers and shit talk other primarchs. It seems like he and his legion just exists to be as grating as possible
The video about guilliman meet other chapter master and their legions to give them primaris and how their reaction can be good idea, anyway good video👍
Plot Twist: Khorne planned to give the Axe of Morkai to Logan. As the he is not only the God of Blood but also the God of Martial Pride and Honor. And no one represents these more than Logan ot the Space Wolves. Bloodlust - kills Inquisition leader and grey knight's leaders but still continues to slaughter Martial Pride - Tactically sound in beating Khornate forces plus spared the lives of the Grey Knights and Inquisition after victory Honor - Defended the weak and innocent from the Inquisition
going to be honest, inquisition was in the right during the months of shame. Not even looking at what happened to hospital world guilliman set up because he also took issue with the inquisition's post-chaos executions, in the vary book it happens in several of the ships that the space wolves help escape caused warp incursions before they were destroyed. that said, the inquisition was being really stupid in how they went about it. They should have simply told grimnar that it would be 100% on him and his legion to rehouse, quarantine, and monitor the survivors for chaos corruption and it would fall squarely on the space wolves to deal with whatever comes of it. Could have even offered to take some of the guardsmen in as inquisitorial Regiments as a show of good faith since they could never be allowed to go back to their own worlds.
As a son of Russ, I completely agree with your depiction of Lion's return leading to some suspicion for Russ returning as well. My fan theory has been that the Nachmund Gauntlet falls, leaving the Imperium Nihilus eternally trapped, prompting Russ to return from 10,000 years of fighting in the Eye. My hope, as a hobbyist, is that Loyalists get a primarch model to rival Morty, Magnus and Angron. I want a Beast Primarch! A Russ who has aged, who has been obviously tainted by chaos, but whose honor and virtue make him an undeniable tool for tne imperium. I like that it can undo the recent codex-compliance in a way that would please the long-time wolves players, while also bringing a new moral quandary for the Imperium.
So basically...the Gray Knights kind of saved the day back then, terminators teleporting in... they never saw it coming (the Daemons). The Gray Knights are a bit too cool for school but...they dont seem to be that much of a secret to some of the other marines. Of course the Inquisition had to step in and fk everything up and make the Gray Knights look kind of stupid in this one.
@@SandmanofTerra would be surprised if it always goes smoothly between them and inquisitors. But I do get they respect the law of the imperium to the letter.
From what I read the knowledge of the Grey Knights is handed out on a "need to know" base. Once the job is done any surviving Space Marines gets a "free" mind wipe by the Inquisiton to remove that knowledge from memory.
I would love to see Grimmar and Russ standing side by side on the great field of battle especially in font of Johnson and Azireal and Leman steals a victory of Johnson this time and then cleans his clock and tell the DA " when he awakens tells him we are now even"!!!
Space Wolves, Dark Angels and Grey Knights fighting alongside each other...now that’s the 40k version of the Christmas truce. Not gonna touch that back by Thorpe though; don’t care much for his style and I haven’t forgiven him for his edlar-novels.
Grimnar has the rage of a Khornate greater demon, but his absolute loyalty to the Emperor means that every ragefull kill he gets is credited to the Emperor in the warp instead of Khorne.
So ... this first part is all in one book? "the emperors gift"? ... because i obviously am missing this story. And at some point our man Sandman should get some recognition from GWs Black Library for all the sales they propably do because of his videos. So should others maybe. :D
This is one of the many things I never understood. How is Logan not corrupted by the Khornate Axe and Fulgrim a Primarch got corrupted by the Laer Blade?
There is a difference tbf between a chaos weapon and a daemon weapon. Though I think it certainly does show quite the character that Logan hasn't been corrupted
I think its more to do with Fulgrim already being weak, filled with self-doubt and the like. That combine with the prophecy that half of the Primarchs had to fall to chaos. Would imo make Fulgrim more easily corrupted than a staunch chapter master. Primarchs aren't the best at everything remember, for example Drach'nyen itself stated that stars would die before it could even begin to corrupt a single Custodian, but I am sure it could corrupt a Primarch faster.
@@SandmanofTerra But it's still a weapon of Chaos. It's still daemonically corrupted. The only difference is that the Laer Blade had a Daemon of Slaanesh inside it, while the Khornate Axe is IMBUED with the powers of Khorne. It literally has Khorne's power running in the Axe and Logan is not corrupted. I feel like Khorne can corrupt Logan with the snap of his fingers, but for some unknown reasons does not want to.
Lets just say that Third war for Armageddon was very awkward with both Inquisition and Wolfs present on the planet. And when this whole clusterfuck with Celestial Lions happened everyone involved were happy that Wolves were not aware of this situation or things would really become pear shaped for the Imperium forces.
The Space Wolves were my 1st love in warhammer, but the change that turned them into drunken frat boys turned me away. I still like them tho, just not as much.
@@SandmanofTerra Started playing the Wolves when they were still more "partying space vikings with long teeth and a slight wolf fetish", aka 2nd/3rd edition. Even the 5th edition codex and the background created there was alright. But then this whole super-wolf stuff, integration of the Wulfen etc. happened. Couldn't even argue against the tired "hurrdurr Team Jacob" joke anymore...
What I remember all so Logan as well forced Grey knights to tell how they are and what is their chapters purpose at the front of the hole Space Wolfs chapter. And this all so made forced that they and Inquisition cannot mind wipe Wolves when they meet in the battle field. So the Sons of Fenris as well are one of the rare out side of Malleus how know Grey Knights
If only Chaos could be erradicated by simply not letting anyone know about it... But sadly the 4 buggers have a tendency to whisper sweet nothings into the ears of those who will listen.
I have this image in my head of Grimnar talking to Guilliman and the conversation being something like "You just want to take over command of the Wolves." "You could not pay me enough to want to take command of Leman's Furries alright. What I want is for you to take all these reinforcements and go be somebody else's problem for a while until your father gets home and can keep you guys occupied."
I still think this average Citizen doesn't know about Chaos Thing so incredibly stupid, Not just on a Reallife Perspective but even on a 40K way. I am pretty Sure, there is even a children's Song about Chaos in the 40K universe.
there are planets who know and planets that don’t, obviously a planet like Cadia that is bordering the eye of terror knows of chaos and is taught to hate them, but planets that don’t and won’t know won’t be told.
Imagine. Just imagine. This poor bastard Inquisitor lands in the Fang, presumably to "teach the Wolves what's what" and is met by none other than the oldest living being in the whole Imperium, bar the Emperor himself, and the only Imperial subject still living to have ever fought in the Great Crusade. Who also casually happens to inhabit a Dreadnought sarcophagus. That, my friends, is the epithome of a brown pants moment.
Lemann Russ is the greatest Primarch and the Lion, or Lionel Johnson (hearing his name sounds like a black-splotation movie character), is a fallen primarch and is chaos undivided.
I just got to say. I fell in love with Warhammer 40K Lore before I even knew what it was. Space Wolfs are my favorite if I was ever to play. Why does Games Workshop not make any of this into an Anima? just reading isn't enough I want to see Logan sink his fangs into that chaos losers' neck.
What i dont understand is, even tho it is undoubtedly cool, wouldnt wielding a khornate axe be considered an act of heresy? After all it is a chaos weapon with corruption potential, even after it was reforged it still had chaos energy within it..
I really wanted to not like the Space Wolves because of their inherent cringe, but they are easily in my top 3 chapters/legions (HH) after learning about them.
Honestly, Wolftime showed Grimnar to be the stupidest space marine yet, and that's saying a lot. They had to resort to the time-honored Black Library tradition of "tell, don't show," calling him charismatic and a superb tactician while repeatedly doing the least sensible thing possible even before Guilliman showed up. I suppose in that way he's a worthy successor to Russ.
@@SandmanofTerra It's pretty bad with all the space marines, like they'll spend a paragraph talking about how smart they are and then they just do a frontal charge into a pit full of spikes or something, but the wolves really are the extreme of it. At least Grimnar hasn't wiped out a loyal planet or anything I guess...
Are you zara khane? You have a very similar voice. If you are I am very interested in speaking to you, I am a CMHC student and study some things that I think with your testimonial, could help people, especially with both your brilliance and circumstance.
I am not Zara, although have had Zara on the channel funnily enough! You should be able to reach out on Instagram im pretty sure, or UA-cam? Hope that helps
@@SandmanofTerra that's super cool, I will. Happy to see the respect. You had just as a professional GSC video as her which is saying a ton, subscribed and looking forward to more!
Space wolves are bigger Mary sues than the ultramarines. They are big and strong, they are wild and can surrender to the beast, but are also master tacticians. They also protect humans from the inquisition, despite being some of the biggest assholes in the loyal legions. I mean the grey knights are Mary sues and a half. But when they are against space wolves they become cannon fodder
Logan goes to smash Magnus with the Axe, Khorne looks over “lmao it would be funny if the nerd got smashed by my axe, I’ll let that happen”
More like "I HATE WIZARDS EVEN MORE THAN I HATE THE EMPEROR, KILL THAT WIZARD, YOU STRANGE VIKING MAN!!!!"
Khorne watching thousands of years of the wolves charging into battle recklessly like madlads "I like these guys"
Why isn't the Salamanders named the Dragons instead? It irks me to no end. WHY?
It would instantly make them so much more awesome and awe inspiring.
Anyhuu can some kind soul point me in a direction of a more appropriate venue for the Dragons of Vulcan discussion.
Come on I want, Nay need Vulcan to be a flying destruction of superfire, and not a ground crawling bug eating lizard.
Am I alone in this?
Khorne definitely would not refer to the space wolves as “ strange “ , have you seen the shit under his command? Space marines cosplaying as werewolf’s are normal compared to shit he has
@@Ewil.Bluetoothsalamander's are also mythological creatures of european folklore, theyre giant fire loving(fire breathing?) lizards
-Teleports infront of an entire grey knights detachement and asks who broke the armistice?
-Grey Knights grandmaster steps forward and asks for forgiveness.
-Before anyone can react, Grimnar slices the grandmaster and four other grey knights open like fucking tomatoes.
-Refuses to elaborate and teleports back to his damaged battle barge and makes the 10.000 year old flagship of the grey knights eat shit for good measure.
What a fucking legend.
You forgot that he sprints in terminator armour.
@@SvenTviking it is noted many places skilled users can sprint, any terminator could sprint, but the experience makes you better suited to not face planting, though I imagine the average marine already has much grace
Ah yes the cheese puppies games workshops favorite mary sues. Rules are for everyone else.
@@clydecraft5642the average Marine is a complete beast, each and Every one of them, which is awesome
@@clydecraft5642 Unlike Gabriel Angelos who can fucking jump.
Bjorn shows himself and the Inquisition starts fangirling basically.
I would too tbf
i mean the guy has fought alongside the emperor, no way they wouldn´t react that way, basically anybody short of girlyman would
Björn is legend walking. If I remember correctly he reminded an inquisitor that he know the emperor.
@@perjohanaxell9862he did and then flirted with Fenrisian born Inquisitor.
Logan is a such a boss even Angron saluted him after he defeated his champion
That wasn't Logan, that was Ulrik.
@@bobbobertbobberton1073 I’m pretty sure it was Logan because he took his axe off a dead Khorne champion
@@jeremystanley216 Yeah he did. But the nod from Angron was to Ulrik. Google it.
I love it when the writers give Khorne and Khorne-aligned characters sort of a code of honor. They’re all about the slaughter, but respect, if you slay our champion that’s a job well done, and another skull for the throne regardless.
They tried to kill Santa! Let give them some Christmas spirit and bolter fire.
🔫🎅
Will some pulse rifle fire be acceptable too?
@@DJROCKSTAZ Sure, while we're at it, let's just bring ALL the heresy we can...Xenos, Mutants...Have at it, boys, girls and various alien monstrosities!
@@monkeybusiness673 You heard him, Shas'Os! I want rail, fusion, EVERY conventional weapon in our arsenal pointed at the Inquisition!
The Moment a Space Wolf Starts Runnig in Terminator Armor you should start thinkin about you live decissions
The image of Bjørn demanding to be teleported up to that ship to break up the battle has always struck me as potentially humorous.
Just the idea of an Iron Priest questioning the order, followed by a dreadnought bellowing, "Did I f@#$ing stutter?!?"... well, it makes me smile 😁
"Did I f@#$ing stutter?!?" cost me a coffee...and a keyboard. Bravo, take my like!
@@Kieran0410 Thanks! 😁 Sorry about the keyboard, though
He's not any dreadnought show some damn respect to the Fellhanded
Then the Mad lad hit on one of the lady inquisitors in orbit afterwards.
Grey knights fire on space wolf
Bjorn fel handed “ do we need to kill a 4th chapter of space marine”
Lol, i mean, since they're an actual Legion, if they rally, they can wipe out any Chapter in a 1x1.
I absolutely adore grimnar for saying "Go fk yourselves" to the inquisition. Nothing like an inquisitor being put into his place
I hoped the Celestial Lions were indirectly avenged by the Space Wolves during the months of shame.
@@brianaguila6925 They're still around.
With those ' innocence is not enough' types, you sometime just have to give them a firm direct !f&ck off!
I can't wait for the arc that the Inquisition becomes the main villain and gets purged from the empire.
@R O while I get where you're coming from, the inquisition is actually an *essential part of the imperium*. Sure they're a bunch of jerks, but the services they provide keep the empire from falling apart. If I remember clearly, those rejects you play as in Darktide come under the authority of the inquisition.
Leman watching Logan from the warp
* that’s definitely my son*
The best feeling a man could ever bask in.
You don’t piss off Logan Grimnar.
But more importantly, you do not gain the Ire of Bjorn the Fell Handed. Anyone that charges Magnus, and tackles him off the top of the Fang, crushing him under his dreadnought body. Is a badass.
Id love more of these long form lore videos, always loved your shorts and just want more
Thanks so much! Planning on making more!
months of shame is my favorite peice of 40k lore.
inquisition laying siege on fenris: no chapter can stand against the inquisition.
logan grimnar: how about a fucking legion.
I love the Space Wolves.
Logan Grimnar, killing all those grey knights, was so awesome.
Only terminator able to sprint in terminator armour, yet is so lazy he takes a sled to battle.
I accidentally read this as the only terminator to terminate in terminator armor
All tartaros terminators and that one blood raven
He has one of the greatest, if not most subtle, lines in the emperor’s gift.
Let me just set the stage for you: when grimnar meets with the inquisition there is a psyker woman trying to chastise him for not allowing them to study some chaos vessel that they destroyed. He turns to her, looking her dead in the eye and says, “Hush, witch. Don’t make me kill you.’
God damn still sends shivers down my spine reading that.
Space Wolves sure hate psykers; Wolf Priests aren't psykers tho, they channel spirits from Fenris, not at all anything to do with daemons, nope, just friendly animal spirits, yep yep /s
i feel like it taps into that whole Norse thing of hating magic, with the exception of Odin's whole schtick about like giving up his eye and the Fates and runes and any other time it's convenient
I like the people saying "there is no wolves on fenris"
space wolves : litteraly using thunder wolves for pulling the land boat of their chapter master
Well, I think you're not aware then, that those aren't wolves, but original colonizers of Fenris, that after being gene-modded to be able to survive the harsh climate, devolved and mutated. As such, there are no wolves on Fenris, because those are people.
Probably.
@@Miestwin devolve and mutate into freaking bear-sized wolves
Yup, I think you misunderstood the quote... Magnus said that because he knew the truth about the wolves of Fenris... Just like Miestwin have said...
@@Miestwin That idea has never been confirmed and since Fenrisian wolves are bigger than both normal wolves and humans it's unlikely that the blending of canid essenses into human genetics would create them. I'm going to offer the counter proposal that the wolves of Fenris aren't wolves because they aren't from Terra.
Fenrisian wolves are simply xenos that look like enormous Terran wolves
It always seemed pretty obvious to me that the wolves on ferris were failed aspirants
It's indicative of the fandom that the fantastic background artwork seemingly NEVER runs out and almost never repeats :D
I like it when Bjorn called Grimnar a pup. LOL
I mean relatively speaking despite Grimnar being very old, Grimnar is nothing but a child to bjorn
Logan Grimnar sprinted in terminator armor, making strange noises come from the joints. This means that it wasn't the terminator armor powering Logan, it was Logan powering up the terminator. The inquisition understood that they couldn't mess with Logan Grimnar.
I'd love to see the space wolves humbling the minotaurs, these guys are beasts tho. Even a custodes was afraid of their chapter master
Chapter master of Minotaurs and Logan are some of the strongest space marine ever. Toghether with Kharn, Sigismund, and Dante
I have my opinion, that if the strongest humans can take down an average space marine, then the strongest space marines can take down the average custodes. So yeah, in my opinion Logan has a chance to beat a normal custodes, but that would be a really hard fight
I wouldn't put it past him!
Logan so pissed off he isn't powered by terminator armor, Terminator armor is powered by him.
Made even more badass by the fact the scene was narrated by the grey knight who broke a deamon primarch's sword and who then proceeded to shit in his power armor at the destruction Logan was dishing out including dropping both him and his partner like they weren't even there while they were mind linked. Respect to the Great Wolf.
@@kylegraves8043 to be fair, if I saw 2,5 metres tall dude, running towards me while dragging a fukin tank, I'd shit myself too
@@tirannusmark7ita679 you got a point surprised any stuck around after see this guy not only sprint but then stop and do a standing vertical leap that would put LeBron James to shame while still dragging said tank.
If you look up the word Gigachad in the dictionairy, there's a picture of Logan Grimnar next to it.
That imperial citizen don't know chaos exist is grimderp.
Great video 😌
Thanks very much!
Yeah if they said: "This is Chaos, this is why it might tempt you, and this is what it will do to you." That would stop 99% of cults from forming. Some especially arrogant people might think they can control it, but still.
@@myself2noone Exactly.
My pet peeve is the inquisition. Anyone with knowledge of them and their work must be executed, but they run around shouting' STOP. INQUISITION ' and flashing their badge 📛
If your an imperial commander and some random flashes his badge at you, you have 2 lore accurate options
1: Deny knowledge of the inquisition and get shot
2: Acknowledge the inquisition and get shot
@@myself2noone Even Satanic-panic era of State/Corporate PSAs on the civil public of Imperium's planets prevents 99% of the cult members from even establishing, it would redirect their public attentions to be productive yet healthily growing members of Imperium while having their development (and even innovations) doesn't got corrupted so easily by Chaos
This is like horus heresy main problem is due to Emperor of Mankind being a bad dad, so it is humanity mostly messing up themselves for millennias of Warhammer settings, especially during Age of Apostasy, Month of Shame and the times they ruins xenos-alliances from taking down more of Chaos/Warp and Tyrannids/Orks infestations, it could even culling the problems of Drukharis if they could be more civil and patient in diplomacy, it's just idiocracy all around, despite "The End Times"/Wolf Time/whatever it is will probably never happens
At least they can go All Tomorrows route but Space Marines looks cooler, Cawl being creatively productive for The Imperium in current 40K timeline is a boon for "movement and progression" as Fanfiction TTS EoM said about Magnus' confessions in episode 19
I wish we could see the Space Wolves and the Emperor's Spears in a campaign. Norse and Celts together 🐺🔱
Ooo love that idea!
The Storm Wardens are also celtic
@@colonelsanders1349Yo you can bring the chicken lol
Byt yeah European themed campaign of space marines would be awesome
Space Wolves- constantly slandered by being called furries.
Are actually a good legion and says "fuck off" to the Inquisition.
[Always been my favorite legion.]
People who says that are either edgelord Iron Warriors or just a peasant who cant think for themselves.
Space Wolves defenetly one of the best legions, and strongest "natty" (non chaos-sauce) primarch.
Russ is a retard who is basically directly responsible for the emperor getting fucked up and consequently the death of the human race and the dream of the Imperium. Couldn't stop Horus, didn't think twice about killing Magnus (Who is an example of a primarch far stronger than him and I think Magnus is boring as shit) because of his own petty shit and ignorance, his legion are so dead end and mutated they couldn't figure out how to make stable successors, encourages his own space marines to act like toddlers and shit talk other primarchs. It seems like he and his legion just exists to be as grating as possible
@@brutallica2944 laugh in Vulkan (but he is a bit crazy after dying 1000 times and falling from orbit)
@@zarpp9411 Well he would surely win a primarch strongman contest :D
Grimnar made a list and didn’t need to check it twice to know who was naughty.
I think I like the Space Wolves a little now after not going to lie.
The video about guilliman meet other chapter master and their legions to give them primaris and how their reaction can be good idea, anyway good video👍
It's a great idea. I've covered high Marshal Helbrecht, Azrael, Dante and Grimnar so far
This should be an HBO series
Get on it Cavill!
This would would be such a sick Movie if it ever came out
Definitely!
He's truely a bro among bros ☺️💪
my fav chapter master and fav space marine in current setting
I'm guessing we'll see the return of not one primarch but two, the Lion and Leman
Would be epic!
Don’t forget the storm wardens
And the Khan, Rogal Dorn and Corvus Corax…
AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!!
Plot Twist: Khorne planned to give the Axe of Morkai to Logan. As the he is not only the God of Blood but also the God of Martial Pride and Honor. And no one represents these more than Logan ot the Space Wolves.
Bloodlust - kills Inquisition leader and grey knight's leaders but still continues to slaughter
Martial Pride - Tactically sound in beating Khornate forces plus spared the lives of the Grey Knights and Inquisition after victory
Honor - Defended the weak and innocent from the Inquisition
going to be honest, inquisition was in the right during the months of shame. Not even looking at what happened to hospital world guilliman set up because he also took issue with the inquisition's post-chaos executions, in the vary book it happens in several of the ships that the space wolves help escape caused warp incursions before they were destroyed.
that said, the inquisition was being really stupid in how they went about it. They should have simply told grimnar that it would be 100% on him and his legion to rehouse, quarantine, and monitor the survivors for chaos corruption and it would fall squarely on the space wolves to deal with whatever comes of it. Could have even offered to take some of the guardsmen in as inquisitorial Regiments as a show of good faith since they could never be allowed to go back to their own worlds.
Old man Logan 🐺
When I hear the months of shame mentioned, the stringstorm song plays in my head
Logan: Smashes magnus's shield
Khorne: that's a knee slapper😂
As a son of Russ, I completely agree with your depiction of Lion's return leading to some suspicion for Russ returning as well.
My fan theory has been that the Nachmund Gauntlet falls, leaving the Imperium Nihilus eternally trapped, prompting Russ to return from 10,000 years of fighting in the Eye.
My hope, as a hobbyist, is that Loyalists get a primarch model to rival Morty, Magnus and Angron. I want a Beast Primarch!
A Russ who has aged, who has been obviously tainted by chaos, but whose honor and virtue make him an undeniable tool for tne imperium.
I like that it can undo the recent codex-compliance in a way that would please the long-time wolves players, while also bringing a new moral quandary for the Imperium.
Me too man! The lion and the wolf is my favourite part of 40k lore and pretty sure black library love it too. I imagine they'll connect the 2
i'd be cool if you handed other chapters the stormwolf but you and the sons of the lion are too busy hoarding the cool shit
So basically...the Gray Knights kind of saved the day back then, terminators teleporting in... they never saw it coming (the Daemons).
The Gray Knights are a bit too cool for school but...they dont seem to be that much of a secret to some of the other marines.
Of course the Inquisition had to step in and fk everything up and make the Gray Knights look kind of stupid in this one.
They are surprisingly under the heel of the inquisition.
@@SandmanofTerra would be surprised if it always goes smoothly between them and inquisitors. But I do get they respect the law of the imperium to the letter.
From what I read the knowledge of the Grey Knights is handed out on a "need to know" base. Once the job is done any surviving Space Marines gets a "free" mind wipe by the Inquisiton to remove that knowledge from memory.
@@Alex-xt1rr like Men in Black ? =)
@@L2Xenta less "look at this flashing light" and more "let's pump them full of drugs and have a psyker mess with their brains."
More i hear about inqusition and grey knight the more i wish emperor get tts device
I would love to see Grimmar and Russ standing side by side on the great field of battle especially in font of Johnson and Azireal and Leman steals a victory of Johnson this time and then cleans his clock and tell the DA " when he awakens tells him we are now even"!!!
Space Wolves, Dark Angels and Grey Knights fighting alongside each other...now that’s the 40k version of the Christmas truce.
Not gonna touch that back by Thorpe though; don’t care much for his style and I haven’t forgiven him for his edlar-novels.
Only non-Custodes that could defeat Logan Grimnar in a pure 1 v 1 duel is Kaldor Draigo and Tyberos the Red Wake.
The Emperor is just Santa Claus after being put on the naughty list by Ms. Claus until he sorts things out.
Love Space Wolves cos wolves 🐺 & Vikings are kinda cool. But the deeper you go the more awesome they are. They are so much more that that
for the all-father!
Grimnar has the rage of a Khornate greater demon, but his absolute loyalty to the Emperor means that every ragefull kill he gets is credited to the Emperor in the warp instead of Khorne.
So ... this first part is all in one book? "the emperors gift"? ... because i obviously am missing this story.
And at some point our man Sandman should get some recognition from GWs Black Library for all the sales they propably do because of his videos. So should others maybe. :D
Hahaha, thanks!
This is one of the many things I never understood. How is Logan not corrupted by the Khornate Axe and Fulgrim a Primarch got corrupted by the Laer Blade?
There is a difference tbf between a chaos weapon and a daemon weapon. Though I think it certainly does show quite the character that Logan hasn't been corrupted
how was he not burned at the stake at the hands of the Inquisition?
because Fulgrim is a bitch, next question.
I think its more to do with Fulgrim already being weak, filled with self-doubt and the like. That combine with the prophecy that half of the Primarchs had to fall to chaos. Would imo make Fulgrim more easily corrupted than a staunch chapter master. Primarchs aren't the best at everything remember, for example Drach'nyen itself stated that stars would die before it could even begin to corrupt a single Custodian, but I am sure it could corrupt a Primarch faster.
@@SandmanofTerra But it's still a weapon of Chaos. It's still daemonically corrupted. The only difference is that the Laer Blade had a Daemon of Slaanesh inside it, while the Khornate Axe is IMBUED with the powers of Khorne. It literally has Khorne's power running in the Axe and Logan is not corrupted. I feel like Khorne can corrupt Logan with the snap of his fingers, but for some unknown reasons does not want to.
Love Grimnar!
Same!
Best loyalist chapter master , second dante
dark angels be like: oi only us can fuck the wolves up, outta here you nerds
The Santa sleigh and his mini was funny
Yes more of this 👍
Ah yes the happiest primarc magnus
Lets just say that Third war for Armageddon was very awkward with both Inquisition and Wolfs present on the planet. And when this whole clusterfuck with Celestial Lions happened everyone involved were happy that Wolves were not aware of this situation or things would really become pear shaped for the Imperium forces.
The Space Wolves were my 1st love in warhammer, but the change that turned them into drunken frat boys turned me away. I still like them tho, just not as much.
I get you, they went a bit too "wolfey" I feel 😂
@@SandmanofTerra Started playing the Wolves when they were still more "partying space vikings with long teeth and a slight wolf fetish", aka 2nd/3rd edition. Even the 5th edition codex and the background created there was alright. But then this whole super-wolf stuff, integration of the Wulfen etc. happened. Couldn't even argue against the tired "hurrdurr Team Jacob" joke anymore...
What I remember all so Logan as well forced Grey knights to tell how they are and what is their chapters purpose at the front of the hole Space Wolfs chapter.
And this all so made forced that they and Inquisition cannot mind wipe Wolves when they meet in the battle field.
So the Sons of Fenris as well are one of the rare out side of Malleus how know Grey Knights
Absolutely!
The Emperor's gift is a badass book.
Chapter master and champions vids are awesome
Great job
Thanks!
... and he is santa 🎅
What's with those two wire attached on the axe? I still don't get it.
Logan Grimnar is the chapter master.
Until someone wakes up Bjorn the fellhanded, purely through the respec they all have for him.
Heresy, perhaps.
God i love your vids 😍
Thanks so much!
You don't have to call him that. :D
40k Santa, protects the weak and brings jolly, brutal murder to his foes.
If only Chaos could be erradicated by simply not letting anyone know about it... But sadly the 4 buggers have a tendency to whisper sweet nothings into the ears of those who will listen.
I have this image in my head of Grimnar talking to Guilliman and the conversation being something like
"You just want to take over command of the Wolves."
"You could not pay me enough to want to take command of Leman's Furries alright. What I want is for you to take all these reinforcements and go be somebody else's problem for a while until your father gets home and can keep you guys occupied."
😂
I wonder how the inquisition explained the big split in the galaxy 🤔
I still think this average Citizen doesn't know about Chaos Thing so incredibly stupid, Not just on a Reallife Perspective but even on a 40K way. I am pretty Sure, there is even a children's Song about Chaos in the 40K universe.
there are planets who know and planets that don’t, obviously a planet like Cadia that is bordering the eye of terror knows of chaos and is taught to hate them, but planets that don’t and won’t know won’t be told.
Yup, Santa Claws indeed
Imagine. Just imagine. This poor bastard Inquisitor lands in the Fang, presumably to "teach the Wolves what's what" and is met by none other than the oldest living being in the whole Imperium, bar the Emperor himself, and the only Imperial subject still living to have ever fought in the Great Crusade.
Who also casually happens to inhabit a Dreadnought sarcophagus.
That, my friends, is the epithome of a brown pants moment.
Logan Grimnar confirmed Santa Claus.
Definitely! 😂
Where is my books on logan Grimsargh and Ulrik the slayer
Dying to have a set collection if their stories in one book
Would be epic
did he bite the chaos champion to death ? sounds like drunk leman russ
It's a pretty badass moment!
I just had space wolves tacticus ad
It's wulfin' time!
I have to ask sandman have you made a red scorpions video because I swear I remember having watched it
I haven't yet! But I will add it to the list!
Lemann Russ is the greatest Primarch and the Lion, or Lionel Johnson (hearing his name sounds like a black-splotation movie character), is a fallen primarch and is chaos undivided.
Please check out Lion: son of the Forest. Might change your opinion.
@@seanconnors1613 chaos propaganda
He's a good boy.
If Grimnar met Calgar or Dante on the battlefield do you think he would beat them?
Subscribed for the Imperium.
Thanks very much!
Is there a book about this? Probably a great read
It's called the Emperor's gift
I just got to say. I fell in love with Warhammer 40K Lore before I even knew what it was. Space Wolfs are my favorite if I was ever to play. Why does Games Workshop not make any of this into an Anima? just reading isn't enough I want to see Logan sink his fangs into that chaos losers' neck.
Man your voice is epic 😂❤
He sounds like Henry cavill, right?
Haha, I'll take it!
can you do a story about sigismund too. it would be interesting
I'll add it to the list!
What i dont understand is, even tho it is undoubtedly cool, wouldnt wielding a khornate axe be considered an act of heresy? After all it is a chaos weapon with corruption potential, even after it was reforged it still had chaos energy within it..
Absolutely, shows he's an exceptional character not to be corrupted
Definitely heresy. But…. Who’s gonna stop him?
They made grammar way too powerful
Hohohoho a gift for bad magnus !!
I really wanted to not like the Space Wolves because of their inherent cringe, but they are easily in my top 3 chapters/legions (HH) after learning about them.
A kornate axe 😯
Wait where is this from what novel? Or book
The novels appear in the video as I start talking about them
@@SandmanofTerra I realised this towards the end of the vid thanks man SPACE WOLVES are so cool 🌟
No Helmets is dumb, but the inquisition proves always to be dumber!
Man bjorn stopped that fight way to early
LET THEM FIGHT
@@SandmanofTerra is that really too much to ask for
Wolf time was written by Gav Thorpe so there is your answer. he was a good editor for WD but as an author.....mmmm
I am really hoping the Inquisition gets taken down a peg. They are way too powerful and way too out of line
Will be interesting to see Russ handle them some day!
Honestly, Wolftime showed Grimnar to be the stupidest space marine yet, and that's saying a lot. They had to resort to the time-honored Black Library tradition of "tell, don't show," calling him charismatic and a superb tactician while repeatedly doing the least sensible thing possible even before Guilliman showed up. I suppose in that way he's a worthy successor to Russ.
Yeah, one of the things about the heresy is they build up this idea of Russ being a genius so much only for him to repeatedly do stupid stuff lol
@@SandmanofTerra It's pretty bad with all the space marines, like they'll spend a paragraph talking about how smart they are and then they just do a frontal charge into a pit full of spikes or something, but the wolves really are the extreme of it. At least Grimnar hasn't wiped out a loyal planet or anything I guess...
BL book, besides Ragnar's books are mostly really bad written regarding the Wolves. Is so tiresome man, even worse than the World Easters deception.
@@Arlehs Oh Ragnars books are a rlly good start to the world of 40 K imo. I started on them and got so much viable information from them.
No way!
You're telling me that GamesWorkshop has bad writing lately?!
Are you zara khane? You have a very similar voice. If you are I am very interested in speaking to you, I am a CMHC student and study some things that I think with your testimonial, could help people, especially with both your brilliance and circumstance.
I am not Zara, although have had Zara on the channel funnily enough! You should be able to reach out on Instagram im pretty sure, or UA-cam?
Hope that helps
@@SandmanofTerra that's super cool, I will. Happy to see the respect. You had just as a professional GSC video as her which is saying a ton, subscribed and looking forward to more!
For fenris
I think Sam Elliot is the perfect voice actor for Logan Grimnar. His gruff voice is suited for ancient and wise warrior like Logan.
Space wolves are bigger Mary sues than the ultramarines. They are big and strong, they are wild and can surrender to the beast, but are also master tacticians. They also protect humans from the inquisition, despite being some of the biggest assholes in the loyal legions.
I mean the grey knights are Mary sues and a half. But when they are against space wolves they become cannon fodder
Grimnar is OP.