Well it's clear Gullimans stand on it. He despises them but knows he cannot act. Ig the POSTER BOYS of fielty to the Imperial cult and most devoted denounce the inquisition. The galaxy at large will rally behind them.
@@poodlescone9700 imagine getting up to use the toilet in the inquisition and the lion is standing there with four of his sons in black armor when you open the door. Oh yeah…he can teleport now anywhere he wants.
Purging che Inquisition is pretty overdue The Inquisition is useful is it is under control of someone like Malcador, the Emperor, Guilliman, etc. The Catholic Inquisition near always refuted the accusations of witchcraft, heresy, etc. And the time they dealt with the real deal, they usually solved the problems with minimum or no blood shed. And they were really all about the process, not the outcome. The Spanish Inquisition (controlled by the King of Spain) was much more violent. But the most witches and heretics were burned by the North European protestants because they were a lot less under a centralized control and independent from the political power of the land.
I have always and will always maintain belief in this statement: “calling the Black Templars heretics is an act of heresy of its own”. So the inquisition has brought a very, very dangerous predator to their door.
*Guilliman upon hearing the news:* You fools, you didn't organise this enough and left too many witnesses and loose ends. Just look what happened to those High Lords that tried rebelling against me. *The Lion upon hearing the news:* Why didn't you ask me to join? I have a whole legion of Space Marines with very extensive experience in making Inquisitors disappear.
The Lion: "Look Asmodai, I know you don't like that you aren't allowed to make Fallen repent anymore... But what about making some Inquisitors repent?"
If the Templars went to war with the Inquisition, they could also find allies in The Fallen. The Lion didn't seem overly fond of the Inquisition. If that was the case, and many Sons of Dorn jumped into the fray along with the Sons of Russ, then it would not be out of the realm of possibilities that two legion strength Astartes forces would be arrayed against the Inquisitors. Count me in.
Dark Angel Interrogator-Chaplain: Now the gaze of our Emperor falls upon you, Inquisitor. How do you plead? Inquisitor: Not guilty. But you - all of you! - are! DA I-C: The expected answer. And with it, the expected sentence. You...will repent of your crimes...in a diminished fashion. Magos! Convert him!
i think all the marine chapters will side with the templars after all if the inquisition can wipe out one chapter just for asking for an investigation how many more will they destroy,the inquistion has had it coming for a long time tho
@@failingbadly24 Probably however the Grey Knights already showed some hesitation when they were forced to fight the Space Wolves. If they are put in that position again they may just go "Our job is to fight Chaos not your political battles you are on your own"
The Black Templars are the first army I collected, back at the end of 4th edition. I love their aesthetic and lore, they're still my favorite chapter. I would love to see the Space Wolves and BT team up and go after the Inquisition.
Right now, they are my first army, and I love learning the best ways to paint them. Now I'm a bit biased towards the emperors champion. But we need sword brethern centurions
At this point I hope the story goes two ways, The 2 returned primarchs turn against the inquisition and purges them, or more likely, the inquisition cleans house and purges some of its more extreme and petty inquisitors in order to calm the anger of the returned primarchs, shifting blame from the organisation to individuals.
@@travzac619 There's likely a high possibility that Every 1st Founding Chapter would likely Join especially Minotours already made an Enemy to the Ultramarines because well they fcking decimate their two successor chapters and stole their wargears which reasonably piss off every Ultramarine and their successors so imagine a fcking hundreds of thousands of space marines coming after you just because you decimate their bros and stole their shits
@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 The Grey Knights are more focused on fighting Chaos and the Minotaurs are tied to the High Lords of Terra. After the Months of Shame, the Grey Knights would be reluctant to fight other Astartes again. Especially since they were never meant to be the Inquisition's lapdog. The Minotaurs are more likely to be on side of the Inquisition, since they're specialised in fighting other Astartes. However the Minotaurs have secrets that even the Inquisition cannot easily access, and many who have tried have been found dead.
The funny thing is the Inquisition, Red Hunters, and Grey Knights had their collective rears handed to them by the Space Wolves during the months of Shame after what a single Inquisitor did on Armageddon. The Space Wolves don't have the same numbers as the Black Templars. The Inquisition really needs to stop doing stuff on or near Armageddon. Current list of Space Marines that want the Inquisition dead: Space Wolves, Black Templars, now every son of Dorne when the Black Templars tell them, The Lion (as soon as he hears of the plans to assassinate him), Dark Angels and their successor chapters, Guiliman (as soon as he hears of the plans to assassinate him), Ultramarines and their successor chapters, The Custodes as they were told by the Emperor to help Guiliman, every faction of Eldar, and The Wolf King when he returns. I give the Inquisition 50 years to live and most of that is travel time to get to them. Grey Knights were disillusioned with the Inquisition after the Months of Shame so their not coming and I doubt any Space Marines would take on both the Space Wolves and Black Templar combine let alone all the backup they have in the above mentioned list of enemies.
Don't forget the Basilisks (Excommunicate traitoris because they have precognition. Only 40 survivors left after the purge but still a strong power to have at his side) and the Flame Falcons (Also excommunicate because of their "fire mantle" power, "few" survivors remaining). With no Grey Knight around to counter them, the fall of the Inquisition should be entertaining to see.
I would love to see this evolve into a small but impactful background conflict in the lore between ever increasing SM chapters calling out the inquisitions shit and leads to a civil war within the inquisitions ranks while Guilliman turns a blind eye to it all.
Yeah, wastes too many resources, guilliman will probably allow it as a way of putting the powers of the imperium on notice, probably leading to an attempt on his life and the inquesition being reformed, heavily.
Nope. He would follow it like an hawk. And when the Inquisition call "Daddy" because there are like 99:1 chapters against them, he will take the chance to put them under his / someone supervision. The Inquisition's total independence from the rest of the Administratum is good. Their total lack of individual responsibilities apart from internal struggles and external retaliations is the big problem. It is not a good policy to be able to do whatever you want until someone else decide to kill you before you kill them just because you are just pissed of their opèen opposition and criticism.
I absolutely love the Black Templars, they’re my #1 favorite chapter no doubt about it! I feel like they get a bad reputation for being overzealous, but I see in stories like Heldreach they can be as kind, noble and human as their brother chapters. To see them go up against the inquisition would be amazing!
Funny part about Templar numbers is that Guilliman probably assumed that with so much crusading they can use Primaris reinforcements, and knowing Templars they probably accepted those going all: "Ah, right, Lord Commander, we almost have no Astartes, give us as much as you can". 🤣 Anyway, seeing how Guilliman consolidated power with Lords of Terra, I can see him siding with Templars here. Not only he'll have excuse to clean house with the Inquisition and put a leash on them, but also - let's not forget group of Black Templars was present with the party that helped revive Guilliman. Not to mention he and Dorn before Codex Astartes were seeing eye to eye on most topics.
Like so many over the years, I have wondered at how or if we will meet the Primarchs again. However, to see the Inquisition get it's well deserved comeuppance is something I have outright hungered for.
I can see a particularly smug inquisitor demanding the wolves come to their aid since they and the Minotaurs tend to be the ones to deal with other SMs. The Wolves end up being like “Suuuuurreeee, sure thing boss.” And end up just joining the Templars.
2 things first I'd love to see the sons of Russ go against the inquisition and second the black Templar are my second favorite chapter only second to the space wolves so a story where they team up would be awesome!!!!!!!
now hang on, what if the lions run into the lion and dante? they're in imperium nihilus, could you imagine the anger that the lion would feel that the imperium itself is now hunting down his brothers astartes. Astartes who are loyal to the emperor i might add. Seems like a long shot, but I hope this happens while dante is taking the lion back to terra
The Black Templar’s revving up to stick it to the Inquisition when suddenly the lion just forest walks in to take the reins would be so hilariously awesome! 🤣
Well after the Arks of Omen the Lion is on the Rock while Dante if I remember went back to Baal so tot would probably not happen but still the Dark Angels suddenly appearing to aid its cousins with the Lion at the head ... would be something.
I know next to nothing about the Celestial Lions but i do know that there is a whole bunch of inquisition factions who'd love to purge each other. Who ever is doing this I am pretty sure many inquisitors would be fine with them getting what they deserve.
what you need to know about the Celestial Lions: sons of Rogal Dorn. they were at the last big war for Armagedon. they were getting purged secretly. acts that looked like sabotage. getting sent to hopeless fights. allegedly ork snipers, thats implied were actually human snipers, taking out many of their higher ranks. after the war other sons of Dorn helped them rebuild with materiel donations, gene seed. grimaldus (from hellsreach novel and fan film) and high marshal helbrecht were absolute bros to the lions. in current era their homeworld got invaded by chaos forces (heretic astartes, and a mutant faction). they requested shelter from an allied chapter known as emperors spears, but during that meeting the Celestial Lions chapter master got decapitated by a Calidus assassin.
It'd be cool to see some famous Inquisitors perhaps side with the Templars on this. There's no love lost between the various factions within the Inquisition, and I'm sure that the more sane and grounded Inquisitors like Amberley Vail would bristle at the shit their cohorts are pulling.
Are we talking about those traitors who murdered the emperor’s custodes along with their own reinforcements? Pretty sure true sons of dorn aren’t traitorous religious fanatics who have betrayed their emperor and the memory of their gene father. 😒
I'd assume that all the sons of Dorn, Russ, Vulcan, and probably also Corax would be up for going to war with the Inquisition over something like this, especially considering they tried to take out the Wolves once already.
The sons of russ would be the first to join the fray given their already bad relationship with the inquisition. Both sides remember the First war for Armageddon
what I can see happening is either the inquisitor responsibile has been corrupted/tricked by chaos or the alpha legion to continue to hunt thr lions and they becomes so radical as a result of the Templars and any other sons of dorn chapter gunning for thrn they go full Cryptman and the inquisition is forced to declare him a traitor and hand him over to the Templars/Lions. Or it turns out that the Inquisitor responsible has been a puppet like the one in the space marine game or has actually been the Changeling the whole time
You have to think that with this storyline, the mobilisation of the inquisition against the dark angels and the months of shame etc. a war against the inquisition is inevitable
I really hope that all that's happening to the Celestial Lions in the Dark Imperium would attract the Lion to them and in turn give him a reason to head to Terra, mainly to purge the Inquistion but also to find out whats been happening as if in his eyes the Celestial Lions are innocent then it'll be the perfect setting to send him over.
@@sphaireus if you throw in every chapter the inquistion has fucked with then you would have the strength of three, four legions even the sons of vulkan are not spared from the inquistion bullshit look at the black dragons
I would love to see Dorn return and hear what has happened to his son just to lead that purge of those who have abused the power given to them by the emperor
Good for them. I don't play the Templars themselves but my custom chapter uses some of the models and fighting styles, having fought by the side of the Templars many times. They would definitely follow Helbrecht on this crusade as well. I'm down for it!
If the templars go to war with the Inquisition, the Wolves would almost certainly join and I don't see Guilliman or the Lion interfering, if anything once they find out what happened I reckon both would side with the templars, and having essentially 4 legions gunning for them would be a very bad day even for the inquisition.
Wouldnt have been the first time the black templars sieged terra. Very strange how they have no rules to do anything but they have saved the emperium once before against the eclesearchy
The Templars would also have alot of staunch militarum and mechanicus allies from all the sectors their companies have faught in. I would love to see the Space Wolves fight alongside the Templars!!! My hackles rise whenever i hear about those treacherous inquisitors
I'm curious what the more zealous military orders think about the inquisitions genocidal act's against loyal imperial subjects? These are after all the subjects of the Big E, not the inquisition. Who do they think they are to destroy these loyal assets? This alone seems like an act of treason against the Empire. Yet these sins go unpunished again and again. It would be most informative to explore the relationships between the major military factions loyal to the Empire. This would help provide context of what factions would naturally form a Coalition against the inquisition. I've often wondered what most of the other Space Marines think of the Black Templar's given that most don't see the Big E as a god. They must think these Son's of Dorn are a bit insane. That said, the Black Templar's faith is more in line with your average imperial subject. Regardless, it easy to see the Black Templar's cause amassing much greater support than the Inquisition. I don't even think the Grey Knights truly like the inquisition.
I wholely see the primarchs getting involved and either a major reform coming to the inquistion or somehow we find out more about dorn after he went missing leaving only a hand behind
@@malcolm_in_the_middle the black templars reactions alone would be beautiful, they have been looking at the excuse since they saw what happened to the celestial lions
Just imagining the black templars(and other sons of dorne chapters),the space wolves and the dark angels all lead by The Lion declaring war on the inquisition would be something to behold. Especially if rowboat and the smurfs got involved
The Inquisition's go to chapter was the black templars. Now they coming for them. Who do they think would stand between them and the templars vengeance. And if Bobby G hears about this the Inquisition is gonna get hurt
Very few chapters would defend them against the other chapters who would love to purge the inquisition out of spite and their long-over-due extermination.
@@Sgt_Glory Nah. The Knights are almost exclusively deamon hunters. They wouldnt involve with chapter issues unless demonic corruption was proven and extensive. And the thing with the space wolves i put to bad writing. Knights have told Inquisitors to pound sand when they thought they were wasting their time
Better not let guiliman hear about this LMAO dude would be PISSED hes trying to scrape together whatever he can to keep the imperium togetger and some random inquisitor is exterminating a loyal chapter out of sheer pettiness
We could see the likes of even The Lion and the Dark Angels also raise their banner along with the Space Wolves and Imperial Fists against the Inquisition, even Guilliman might come to the conclusion of them having 10,000 years of unlimited, unchecked power is enough and its time for a top-down purge of the Inquisition itself as a whole, nevermind just one sect of the Ordo Hereticus
I believe you are not framing the situation correctly. The Inquisition is a very decentralized institution by design. Inquisitors and Lord Inquisitors often execute their investigations completely independently. If the inquisition as a whole was truly against the Celestial Lions they would simply publicly declare them Excommunicate Traitoris. The fact that didn't happen indicates that a high ranking inquisitor is probably responsible. Obviously given the backstory it is probably the one that the Lions denounced and wanted to have investigated. Thus the are not fighting the "Inquisition". They are fighting a member of it, but not the institution itself. It is likely the rest of the organization is completely unaware.
I agree with you, but wouldn’t the member possibly condemn the entire organization as whole as being broken? There are far more instances of Inquisitors abusing their power, or executing millions without just cause, or going after faithful chapters because of rumors. Space Wolves, Flesh Tearers, Dark Angels… those are just the a few off the top of my head that would oppose the inquisition. Maybe a reorganization by force like the opposition to Doge Vandire could be on the horizon? Unlikely, but it’s fun to think about.
That is true but the problem is :- If any NON-Inquisitor tries to censure an Inquisitor no matter the reason, the WHOLE Inquisition joins in to defend the Inquisitor. They sort of have to. If they did not then that would ruin the reputation of the Inquisiton which is what every Inquisitor relies on to do their jobs. Worse is the Inquisition can't or won't police themselves unless the Inquisitor goes REALLY REALLY over the line and whomever is attacking Celestial Lions has not done that yet. So if the Templars go to war against that Inquisitor, they will go to war with the entire Inquisition.
@@sarethuskami5082 If you read the books covering characters in the inquisition you would know that they are constantly fighting each other, investigating each other, and even executing each other. If you kill an inquisitor than yes his allies in the inquisition will want to know why and perhaps retaliate, but the institution as a whole will not. A good way of thinking of the Inquisition is to think of them like the police. All police departments are there to enforce the law and they will generally support one another, but there is no requirement for them to do so. Quite often they will not support each other because of ideological disagreements. Their power comes from their legal status, so the inquisition cares little about their reputation. Whoever went after the Celestial Lions did so in secret for a reason. Coordinating with xenos to destroy a loyal space marine during one of the largest orc attacks in history ranks pretty high on the heresy meter. I know many of the inquisitors like Eisenhorn in the books I have read would definitely have taken out whoever is responsible. The Templars would not be the first chapter to go against the inquisition the Space Wolves went as far as to slay the Lord Inquistor and the Grandmaster of the Grey Knights, yet still they didn't get the excommunicate traitoris. Its clear the whole of the inquisition did not support it.
Imagine this news reaches the Space Wolves. OOOOH what i would give to see the Black Templars and the Space Wolves together against the Inquisition. OMG the inquisition is screwed
I used to dislike the Black Templars for doing whatever they want and not giving a damn what anyone says. Now I like the Black Templars for doing whatever they want and not giving a damn what anyone says.
the question is Why would Ordo Malious and Ordo Xenos throw in with Ordo Hereticus? or that matter the other Ordos? this was a grave dug by Ordo Hereticus themselves.
The Inquisition itself is not a monolith, as well. So it is very possible that a war or open conflict between an entire loyal chapter vs the Inquisition would cause the Inquisition to fracture, where the ones loyal to the Imperium and *NOT* the Inquisition first basically overthrow the worst of the bunch. But then again, the Inquisition has a lot of power, and could pull other Chapters in to defend itself, and probably would. They also are easily able to command the Guard, so... It would be an interesting fight. I'm pretty sure both the Lion and Robute would side against the Inq, but then again, the Lion is a weird one; he might just side with the Inq because "fuck you that's why." It would be entertaining, so long as it was written well.
Doubt the Lion would. RG would command the stand down of human forces, IG, IN, and the Assassinorum. If there were some rogue elements, the more to the fight, the merrier🤷♂️
You know, that could be an interesting way to bring back something akin to the old Inquisitor game mixed with other stuff...Inquisitors and their retinues involved in a civil war amidst that with sides drawn there.
Talking around corners & giving answers to questions not asked! The Black Templars do not wear the Aquilae. They are the Aquilae! The Black Templars need to make a conference call to the Raven Guard & Raptors! An Ordo really needs an abject lesson in "Covert/ Clandestine" Spec-Ops!..... lovin'this...lol. Many thanx Rho 👍👍
Dont forget chapters like the red hunters, exorcists, charcaradons astra and minotaurs would 100% side with the inquisition, helbrecht vs asterion molech would be one helluva fight
@@AzrealMaximus yes they would because in the case of the red hunters and exorcists are basically run by the inquisition and the characaradons looting rights and ability to resupply from loyalist chapters depends entirely on the inquisition being ok with it. In the case of the minotaurs they take orders directly from the high lords of terra.
I can see this leading to a sudo full war of the imperium vs space marines. I've had a running theory we will see imperium secundus again one day and I feel likethis may just lead to it.
Roboute will not want a war between the Inquisition and the Templars and their allies. Not because he doesn’t want to get rid of the Inquisition but because he needs everyone he can get to fight the Xeno and Chaos. If Guilliman acts against the Inquisition it will be like how he dealt with the rebellious high Lords. Wait for them to gather then strike in one fell swoop decapitating the leadership with assassins and re absorbing their forces. He would also want to wait until he can replace the inquisition with some new investigative bureau
Notice how some of the Inquisition’s biggest scandals have happened around Armageddon? The War of Shame against the Wolves, now the campaign of betrayal against the Lions… both of which could quite possibly mean the “end of the world” for the Institution.
It's the acts of the Inquisition that makes me enjoy things like 'The Month Of Shame' so very much. When a chapter petverbially slaps the inquisition in the face, then not only resists the consequences but take it up a notch.
The Inquisition is very fragmented and individual and they tend to stay out of each others' business unless serious lines have been crossed. This is definitely a crossing of way too many lines though, so the fact that Apollyon and whoever else are still operating and pursuing this personal vendetta tells me that they are definitely a powerful figure with many allies in and outside of the inquisition. It would be interesting to see this boil over into a big internal conflict in the inquisition..
I have not read Spear of the Emperor yet but I bet they too, the Spears, must have been baffled to see the Chapter Master of their comrades being killed in such a base manner, limited as they might be compared to the Black Templars they probably would side with the Lions which just might also help bring the gaze of the Lord Commander towards the issue
i believe many astartes chapters would soon find that they have all suffered at the hands of the inquisition when or if they put their collective heads together and woe betide the inquisition then
The astartes taking on the inquisition, or one of it's Hordos at least, would make for a great story. However, with the current state of events, I do not think either side would risk it. But if the bloodline of Dorn takes on the big I boys, and more chapters ally with the Templars I truly hope to see the Fenrisians take part on this events for no one fells inquisition ships like they do. I'd also love for Lukas the Trikster to be majorly involved, giving some good old landing coordinates or something 😂.
There are surely some female inquisitors it is worth landing over for Lukas. And many of them would like to inquisite about the many abilities of an Astertes like Lukas.
The Lion: So you tried to kill my brother's sons!!! Guiliman: Brother. Please don't nuke them Inquisitor: YOU'RE GONNA NUKE US!!!! (Dorn returns) Dorn: I'll take care of it
The inquisition has successfully pissed off Dorn's boys, Russ' boys, they pissed off Guilliman and his sons when they tried to kill him, ditto for the Lion and the Dark Angels and I'm fairly sure the Adeptas Sororitas would not tolerate a repeat of the whole Vandire incident. Vulkan and his sons would side with their brother as would Corvus and his Ravens. Are there ANY loyalist factions that would even lift a finger to help the inquisition with the shitstorm of pissed off allies they've created for themselves?? I'm pretty sure they've burned bridges with basically all of their allies.
With the Primarchs being like “da fuq” in regards to the Inquisition even existing I can see them seizing on an opportunity to eradicate that thorn in their side.
Can the fanatics of Sigismund's descent stand up to the cloak and dagger tactics of the inquisition? I sure hope Alpharius' lessons to Dorn has taken root...
Not only that the inquisition has a lot to answer for. The incident with the nids. Killing trillions of innocent imperial citizens and loads more crap. Yeah they had this coming
The Inquisition loves to present itself as ubiquitous and almighty. But the simple truth is that they are riven with internal rivalries and faction warfare. If the BTs declare war, unified as they are by their faith, the Inquisition may unite together, or some of them may simply step aside and try to ride the conflict out to their own agenda.
The miniatures would probably take the inq side and a few others that work for them directly. The inq faction would probably lie to the high lords and get miniatures on their side
They're really speedrunning "piss off literally everyone because of our egos", aren't they? The Avenging Son isn't going to be happy if he hears about it. The main problem with "War on the Inquisition" is that they don't exactly hold much land in the traditional sense to lay in to (though the lands of those they keep in a strangehold, perhaps not so much...). It'd be like trying to strangle water.
The possibility of a war against the Inquisition getting the attention of Gulliman and/or The Lion
Well it's clear Gullimans stand on it. He despises them but knows he cannot act. Ig the POSTER BOYS of fielty to the Imperial cult and most devoted denounce the inquisition. The galaxy at large will rally behind them.
No doubt this conflict will end with the Lord Commander making a decision. I would like to see the Custodes having to intervene as well.
@@poodlescone9700 imagine getting up to use the toilet in the inquisition and the lion is standing there with four of his sons in black armor when you open the door.
Oh yeah…he can teleport now anywhere he wants.
@@poodlescone9700 The Inquisition under the direct supervision of The Custodies might be the best option
@@MWH12085 Or the lion
What I wouldn't do to see the sons of Dorn, Russ, and the Lion take on the Inquisition.
i hope the Lion still has that skinning knife...
Led by the Lion himself!!
Purging che Inquisition is pretty overdue
The Inquisition is useful is it is under control of someone like Malcador, the Emperor, Guilliman, etc.
The Catholic Inquisition near always refuted the accusations of witchcraft, heresy, etc. And the time they dealt with the real deal, they usually solved the problems with minimum or no blood shed. And they were really all about the process, not the outcome.
The Spanish Inquisition (controlled by the King of Spain) was much more violent.
But the most witches and heretics were burned by the North European protestants because they were a lot less under a centralized control and independent from the political power of the land.
that would bring dawn out of his funk in a big way and bring him back into an active role in the galaxy anew
What a conference that would be to see Primarch Lion El'Jonson, Lord Helbrecht and Reclusiarch Grimaldus.
I have always and will always maintain belief in this statement: “calling the Black Templars heretics is an act of heresy of its own”. So the inquisition has brought a very, very dangerous predator to their door.
the templars are heretics
*Guilliman upon hearing the news:* You fools, you didn't organise this enough and left too many witnesses and loose ends. Just look what happened to those High Lords that tried rebelling against me.
*The Lion upon hearing the news:* Why didn't you ask me to join? I have a whole legion of Space Marines with very extensive experience in making Inquisitors disappear.
The Lion: "Look Asmodai, I know you don't like that you aren't allowed to make Fallen repent anymore... But what about making some Inquisitors repent?"
Space wolf getting ready for round 2
@@VallornDeathblade Asmodai needs something to do now, and making Inquisitors repent sounds like pretty nice
If the Templars went to war with the Inquisition, they could also find allies in The Fallen. The Lion didn't seem overly fond of the Inquisition. If that was the case, and many Sons of Dorn jumped into the fray along with the Sons of Russ, then it would not be out of the realm of possibilities that two legion strength Astartes forces would be arrayed against the Inquisitors. Count me in.
And how many first founding chapters would join in at that point.
Girlyman would be standing with his dauntless few brothers legions
Dark Angel Interrogator-Chaplain: Now the gaze of our Emperor falls upon you, Inquisitor. How do you plead?
Inquisitor: Not guilty. But you - all of you! - are!
DA I-C: The expected answer. And with it, the expected sentence. You...will repent of your crimes...in a diminished fashion. Magos! Convert him!
@@sheikmuhammad3894 the day that happens when the chapters gather to put the Inquisition to the sword.
But would the Grey Knights fight with the inquisition? That would be rough…
i think all the marine chapters will side with the templars after all if the inquisition can wipe out one chapter just for asking for an investigation how many more will they destroy,the inquistion has had it coming for a long time tho
I mean I'm pretty sure the Grey Knights and Minotaurs will side with the inquisition
@@failingbadly24 Probably however the Grey Knights already showed some hesitation when they were forced to fight the Space Wolves. If they are put in that position again they may just go "Our job is to fight Chaos not your political battles you are on your own"
The inquisition drawing hostility from more and more chapters: space wolfs, dark angels, black templars...
The militarum to
The Black Templars are the first army I collected, back at the end of 4th edition. I love their aesthetic and lore, they're still my favorite chapter. I would love to see the Space Wolves and BT team up and go after the Inquisition.
Right now, they are my first army, and I love learning the best ways to paint them. Now I'm a bit biased towards the emperors champion. But we need sword brethern centurions
At this point I hope the story goes two ways, The 2 returned primarchs turn against the inquisition and purges them, or more likely, the inquisition cleans house and purges some of its more extreme and petty inquisitors in order to calm the anger of the returned primarchs, shifting blame from the organisation to individuals.
The Inquisition: Astartes, we need your aid in the destruction of the Black Templars!
Astartes: Oh would you look at the time, I have somewhere to be.
No SM Chapter would dare go against the Black Templars, less they feel the Wrath of High Marshal Helbrecht.
@@travzac619 What about Grey Knights, and the Minotaur Chapter?
@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 welp I hope they like fighting most of the Astarte Chapters including the Space Wolves, they're ready for a round 2.
@@travzac619 There's likely a high possibility that Every 1st Founding Chapter would likely Join especially Minotours already made an Enemy to the Ultramarines because well they fcking decimate their two successor chapters and stole their wargears which reasonably piss off every Ultramarine and their successors
so imagine a fcking hundreds of thousands of space marines coming after you just because you decimate their bros and stole their shits
@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 The Grey Knights are more focused on fighting Chaos and the Minotaurs are tied to the High Lords of Terra.
After the Months of Shame, the Grey Knights would be reluctant to fight other Astartes again. Especially since they were never meant to be the Inquisition's lapdog.
The Minotaurs are more likely to be on side of the Inquisition, since they're specialised in fighting other Astartes. However the Minotaurs have secrets that even the Inquisition cannot easily access, and many who have tried have been found dead.
The funny thing is the Inquisition, Red Hunters, and Grey Knights had their collective rears handed to them by the Space Wolves during the months of Shame after what a single Inquisitor did on Armageddon. The Space Wolves don't have the same numbers as the Black Templars. The Inquisition really needs to stop doing stuff on or near Armageddon. Current list of Space Marines that want the Inquisition dead: Space Wolves, Black Templars, now every son of Dorne when the Black Templars tell them, The Lion (as soon as he hears of the plans to assassinate him), Dark Angels and their successor chapters, Guiliman (as soon as he hears of the plans to assassinate him), Ultramarines and their successor chapters, The Custodes as they were told by the Emperor to help Guiliman, every faction of Eldar, and The Wolf King when he returns. I give the Inquisition 50 years to live and most of that is travel time to get to them. Grey Knights were disillusioned with the Inquisition after the Months of Shame so their not coming and I doubt any Space Marines would take on both the Space Wolves and Black Templar combine let alone all the backup they have in the above mentioned list of enemies.
Don't forget the Basilisks (Excommunicate traitoris because they have precognition. Only 40 survivors left after the purge but still a strong power to have at his side) and the Flame Falcons (Also excommunicate because of their "fire mantle" power, "few" survivors remaining).
With no Grey Knight around to counter them, the fall of the Inquisition should be entertaining to see.
I would love to see this evolve into a small but impactful background conflict in the lore between ever increasing SM chapters calling out the inquisitions shit and leads to a civil war within the inquisitions ranks while Guilliman turns a blind eye to it all.
Doubtful Guilliman would turn a blind eye to it. He’a written as a character surrounded by stupid assholes he can’t quite deal with just yet. 😂
Guilliman will be pissed at the waste of resources.
Yeah, wastes too many resources, guilliman will probably allow it as a way of putting the powers of the imperium on notice, probably leading to an attempt on his life and the inquesition being reformed, heavily.
Nope. He would follow it like an hawk.
And when the Inquisition call "Daddy" because there are like 99:1 chapters against them, he will take the chance to put them under his / someone supervision.
The Inquisition's total independence from the rest of the Administratum is good. Their total lack of individual responsibilities apart from internal struggles and external retaliations is the big problem.
It is not a good policy to be able to do whatever you want until someone else decide to kill you before you kill them just because you are just pissed of their opèen opposition and criticism.
@@inthefade Or happy to bring them under his supervision.
I love the idea of 100,000+ templars knocking about
if you count the recruiters on their worlds, then easily 80,000+
@@henrypaleveda7760 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
I absolutely love the Black Templars, they’re my #1 favorite chapter no doubt about it! I feel like they get a bad reputation for being overzealous, but I see in stories like Heldreach they can be as kind, noble and human as their brother chapters. To see them go up against the inquisition would be amazing!
Imagine Rogal Dorn returns, to find he now has to wield nearly 10000 Sigismunds😂😂😂
.....purging with my kin!
He might actually be as angry as them. Imagine angron, but the anger is directed into productive ways.
@@henrypaleveda7760replace white hot rage with cold fury
The way how I see this.
Celestial Lions: Big Brother, the Inquisition is bullying me?
Black Templars: Give me my Bolter.
They brought 900 knights to Armageddon. They brought 900 without blinking. The emperors chosen sons know no fear.
that alone should have given any inquisitor pause.
Do NOT fuck with someone willing to go lose 100% at the drop of a hat -my old boxing coach
Well, they were not expecting to get F'ed in the A.
Those ork snipers are quite pesky, teehee
@@DeathWatchChampion
"Ork snipers".
Right. They're not eversor assassins, for sure.
Funny part about Templar numbers is that Guilliman probably assumed that with so much crusading they can use Primaris reinforcements, and knowing Templars they probably accepted those going all: "Ah, right, Lord Commander, we almost have no Astartes, give us as much as you can". 🤣
Anyway, seeing how Guilliman consolidated power with Lords of Terra, I can see him siding with Templars here. Not only he'll have excuse to clean house with the Inquisition and put a leash on them, but also - let's not forget group of Black Templars was present with the party that helped revive Guilliman. Not to mention he and Dorn before Codex Astartes were seeing
eye to eye on most topics.
I love Grimaldus, he's such a gigachad
Like so many over the years, I have wondered at how or if we will meet the Primarchs again. However, to see the Inquisition get it's well deserved comeuppance is something I have outright hungered for.
I can see a particularly smug inquisitor demanding the wolves come to their aid since they and the Minotaurs tend to be the ones to deal with other SMs. The Wolves end up being like “Suuuuurreeee, sure thing boss.” And end up just joining the Templars.
2 things first I'd love to see the sons of Russ go against the inquisition and second the black Templar are my second favorite chapter only second to the space wolves so a story where they team up would be awesome!!!!!!!
now hang on, what if the lions run into the lion and dante? they're in imperium nihilus, could you imagine the anger that the lion would feel that the imperium itself is now hunting down his brothers astartes. Astartes who are loyal to the emperor i might add. Seems like a long shot, but I hope this happens while dante is taking the lion back to terra
The Black Templar’s revving up to stick it to the Inquisition when suddenly the lion just forest walks in to take the reins would be so hilariously awesome! 🤣
@@jeffy1862 ahh someone needs to make a comic of this lmao
@@jeffy1862 with the resto of the celestial lions right behind him!
Well after the Arks of Omen the Lion is on the Rock while Dante if I remember went back to Baal so tot would probably not happen but still the Dark Angels suddenly appearing to aid its cousins with the Lion at the head ... would be something.
I know next to nothing about the Celestial Lions but i do know that there is a whole bunch of inquisition factions who'd love to purge each other. Who ever is doing this I am pretty sure many inquisitors would be fine with them getting what they deserve.
what you need to know about the Celestial Lions: sons of Rogal Dorn. they were at the last big war for Armagedon. they were getting purged secretly. acts that looked like sabotage. getting sent to hopeless fights. allegedly ork snipers, thats implied were actually human snipers, taking out many of their higher ranks. after the war other sons of Dorn helped them rebuild with materiel donations, gene seed. grimaldus (from hellsreach novel and fan film) and high marshal helbrecht were absolute bros to the lions.
in current era their homeworld got invaded by chaos forces (heretic astartes, and a mutant faction). they requested shelter from an allied chapter known as emperors spears, but during that meeting the Celestial Lions chapter master got decapitated by a Calidus assassin.
It'd be cool to see some famous Inquisitors perhaps side with the Templars on this. There's no love lost between the various factions within the Inquisition, and I'm sure that the more sane and grounded Inquisitors like Amberley Vail would bristle at the shit their cohorts are pulling.
Imagine that dorn returns and hears about what hapent to the celestial lions.
Inquisitors would start disappearing without the help of the Dark Angels.
This ignites a little glimmer of hope that Dan Abnett's Ravenor will be brought into the main story.
The true sons of Dorn
Damn straight
Are we talking about those traitors who murdered the emperor’s custodes along with their own reinforcements? Pretty sure true sons of dorn aren’t traitorous religious fanatics who have betrayed their emperor and the memory of their gene father. 😒
Well said, Brother Pierre.
Aren't they religious fanatics?
Kinda anti-Dorn don't you think.
Still badass though.
@@BrotherHood-xh9sg You call it fanaticism, i call it truth, for if the Emperor is not a god now, what is he
I'd assume that all the sons of Dorn, Russ, Vulcan, and probably also Corax would be up for going to war with the Inquisition over something like this, especially considering they tried to take out the Wolves once already.
The sons of russ would be the first to join the fray given their already bad relationship with the inquisition. Both sides remember the First war for Armageddon
@@wolflordkanan9720 true, the sons of russ will go there but wiser after the first conflict.
@@wolflordkanan9720 Aye
@@xzenitramx666 How wiser? The inquisition were passing their pants when they saw the Fell-Handed was leading the defense of Fenris.
@@wolflordkanan9720 I was talking about the wolfs not the inquisitors.
Templars once they set their sight on you, is a damned fucking scary thing to behold.
what I can see happening is either the inquisitor responsibile has been corrupted/tricked by chaos or the alpha legion to continue to hunt thr lions and they becomes so radical as a result of the Templars and any other sons of dorn chapter gunning for thrn they go full Cryptman and the inquisition is forced to declare him a traitor and hand him over to the Templars/Lions. Or it turns out that the Inquisitor responsible has been a puppet like the one in the space marine game or has actually been the Changeling the whole time
MAN I hope it's just been the Changeling hard trolling again lol
Or orders exterminatus to the Space Wolf planet. Let's see how THAT would turn out🤯😵
You have to think that with this storyline, the mobilisation of the inquisition against the dark angels and the months of shame etc. a war against the inquisition is inevitable
Nothing would make me happier than to see the Black Templars and Space Wolves team up and take down some power-hungry Inquisitors.
I really hope that all that's happening to the Celestial Lions in the Dark Imperium would attract the Lion to them and in turn give him a reason to head to Terra, mainly to purge the Inquistion but also to find out whats been happening as if in his eyes the Celestial Lions are innocent then it'll be the perfect setting to send him over.
At this point I expect Malcador to come back and be like “I am disappoint.”
With a Text-To-Speech device?
The Celestial Lions need to join the Lion. Bring the Dark Angels against the Inquisition, too.
The dark angels do have a history of ‘disappearing inquisitors’..
Like was mentioned earlier, a good reason to throw in the wolves. :O
@@sphaireus if you throw in every chapter the inquistion has fucked with then you would have the strength of three, four legions even the sons of vulkan are not spared from the inquistion bullshit look at the black dragons
@@lairoftheobsidianwolf5784 You’re right. I was narrow minded there. Wouldn’t be much of a war if that happened.
@@sphaireus what meant is when it comes to the inquistion there are few chapters that would try to defend them
I would love to see Dorn return and hear what has happened to his son just to lead that purge of those who have abused the power given to them by the emperor
He's still the Preatorian of terra
I look forward to Helbrecht and the Templars going after the Dark Angels for the Ophidium Gulf.
That might be a fun one now that the Lion is back.
Good for them. I don't play the Templars themselves but my custom chapter uses some of the models and fighting styles, having fought by the side of the Templars many times. They would definitely follow Helbrecht on this crusade as well. I'm down for it!
If the templars go to war with the Inquisition, the Wolves would almost certainly join and I don't see Guilliman or the Lion interfering, if anything once they find out what happened I reckon both would side with the templars, and having essentially 4 legions gunning for them would be a very bad day even for the inquisition.
Wouldnt have been the first time the black templars sieged terra. Very strange how they have no rules to do anything but they have saved the emperium once before against the eclesearchy
The Templars would also have alot of staunch militarum and mechanicus allies from all the sectors their companies have faught in.
I would love to see the Space Wolves fight alongside the Templars!!!
My hackles rise whenever i hear about those treacherous inquisitors
I'm curious what the more zealous military orders think about the inquisitions genocidal act's against loyal imperial subjects? These are after all the subjects of the Big E, not the inquisition. Who do they think they are to destroy these loyal assets? This alone seems like an act of treason against the Empire. Yet these sins go unpunished again and again.
It would be most informative to explore the relationships between the major military factions loyal to the Empire. This would help provide context of what factions would naturally form a Coalition against the inquisition.
I've often wondered what most of the other Space Marines think of the Black Templar's given that most don't see the Big E as a god. They must think these Son's of Dorn are a bit insane. That said, the Black Templar's faith is more in line with your average imperial subject.
Regardless, it easy to see the Black Templar's cause amassing much greater support than the Inquisition. I don't even think the Grey Knights truly like the inquisition.
I wholely see the primarchs getting involved and either a major reform coming to the inquistion or somehow we find out more about dorn after he went missing leaving only a hand behind
Imagine if Dorn is in the hands of the inquisition
They'd be doomed 😂@malcolm_in_the_middle
@@malcolm_in_the_middle the black templars reactions alone would be beautiful, they have been looking at the excuse since they saw what happened to the celestial lions
Just imagining the black templars(and other sons of dorne chapters),the space wolves and the dark angels all lead by The Lion declaring war on the inquisition would be something to behold. Especially if rowboat and the smurfs got involved
The Inquisition's go to chapter was the black templars. Now they coming for them. Who do they think would stand between them and the templars vengeance. And if Bobby G hears about this the Inquisition is gonna get hurt
Very few chapters would defend them against the other chapters who would love to purge the inquisition out of spite and their long-over-due extermination.
The Grey Knights though... They'd probably side with the Inquisition. They're practically joined at the hip anyways.
@@Sgt_Glory Nah. The Knights are almost exclusively deamon hunters. They wouldnt involve with chapter issues unless demonic corruption was proven and extensive. And the thing with the space wolves i put to bad writing. Knights have told Inquisitors to pound sand when they thought they were wasting their time
@@Sgt_Glorythey are CO-EQUAL Inquisitorial factions. The GK is NOT beholden to the other 3 ordos, but have mainly worked with the malleus.
Better not let guiliman hear about this LMAO dude would be PISSED hes trying to scrape together whatever he can to keep the imperium togetger and some random inquisitor is exterminating a loyal chapter out of sheer pettiness
Dude imagine if the Emperor selected a Champion before the Templars enact their retribution... truly a test of who is the Emperor's will made manifest
Deliciousness😏
Helbrecht: Hey, Grimnar, old pal, what about some ass-kick-make against Inquisition?
Grimnar: Man, you are such a good negotiator!
We could see the likes of even The Lion and the Dark Angels also raise their banner along with the Space Wolves and Imperial Fists against the Inquisition, even Guilliman might come to the conclusion of them having 10,000 years of unlimited, unchecked power is enough and its time for a top-down purge of the Inquisition itself as a whole, nevermind just one sect of the Ordo Hereticus
I believe you are not framing the situation correctly. The Inquisition is a very decentralized institution by design. Inquisitors and Lord Inquisitors often execute their investigations completely independently. If the inquisition as a whole was truly against the Celestial Lions they would simply publicly declare them Excommunicate Traitoris. The fact that didn't happen indicates that a high ranking inquisitor is probably responsible. Obviously given the backstory it is probably the one that the Lions denounced and wanted to have investigated. Thus the are not fighting the "Inquisition". They are fighting a member of it, but not the institution itself. It is likely the rest of the organization is completely unaware.
I agree with you, but wouldn’t the member possibly condemn the entire organization as whole as being broken? There are far more instances of Inquisitors abusing their power, or executing millions without just cause, or going after faithful chapters because of rumors. Space Wolves, Flesh Tearers, Dark Angels… those are just the a few off the top of my head that would oppose the inquisition. Maybe a reorganization by force like the opposition to Doge Vandire could be on the horizon? Unlikely, but it’s fun to think about.
That is true but the problem is :-
If any NON-Inquisitor tries to censure an Inquisitor no matter the reason, the WHOLE Inquisition joins in to defend the Inquisitor.
They sort of have to. If they did not then that would ruin the reputation of the Inquisiton which is what every Inquisitor relies on to do their jobs.
Worse is the Inquisition can't or won't police themselves unless the Inquisitor goes REALLY REALLY over the line and whomever is attacking Celestial Lions has not done that yet.
So if the Templars go to war against that Inquisitor, they will go to war with the entire Inquisition.
@@sarethuskami5082 If you read the books covering characters in the inquisition you would know that they are constantly fighting each other, investigating each other, and even executing each other. If you kill an inquisitor than yes his allies in the inquisition will want to know why and perhaps retaliate, but the institution as a whole will not.
A good way of thinking of the Inquisition is to think of them like the police. All police departments are there to enforce the law and they will generally support one another, but there is no requirement for them to do so. Quite often they will not support each other because of ideological disagreements.
Their power comes from their legal status, so the inquisition cares little about their reputation.
Whoever went after the Celestial Lions did so in secret for a reason. Coordinating with xenos to destroy a loyal space marine during one of the largest orc attacks in history ranks pretty high on the heresy meter. I know many of the inquisitors like Eisenhorn in the books I have read would definitely have taken out whoever is responsible.
The Templars would not be the first chapter to go against the inquisition the Space Wolves went as far as to slay the Lord Inquistor and the Grandmaster of the Grey Knights, yet still they didn't get the excommunicate traitoris. Its clear the whole of the inquisition did not support it.
Imagine this news reaches the Space Wolves. OOOOH what i would give to see the Black Templars and the Space Wolves together against the Inquisition. OMG the inquisition is screwed
Just imagine no one stopping Logan this time!
@@drunknnirish imagine hellbrecht or even one of his guard moving alongside logan.
Logan and Hellbrecht would end up having a kill count contest like Legalois and Gimli did in LOTR.
Can't help but wonder what Grimnar and the Vylka Fenryka would think about all this 🤔
I am so ready for memes of Abaddon, Szarekh, Ghazkhull and Vect sitting around a vid screen eating popcorn like Michael Jackson as this pops off.
I used to dislike the Black Templars for doing whatever they want and not giving a damn what anyone says.
Now I like the Black Templars for doing whatever they want and not giving a damn what anyone says.
The inquisition is necessary in the Imperium, but a little purge would probably be for the best.
Hopefully the grey knights stay out of this one.
or l;earn and side with the templars/celestial lions.
the question is Why would Ordo Malious and Ordo Xenos throw in with Ordo Hereticus? or that matter the other Ordos? this was a grave dug by Ordo Hereticus themselves.
it will not be just black templars but every single chapter that has a drop of Rogal Dorn's blood
Any day the Inquisition to get wrecked is a good day
Considering the inquisitions use of the black templars regularly, do you not think it would divide the inquisition perhaps?
The Inquisition itself is not a monolith, as well. So it is very possible that a war or open conflict between an entire loyal chapter vs the Inquisition would cause the Inquisition to fracture, where the ones loyal to the Imperium and *NOT* the Inquisition first basically overthrow the worst of the bunch.
But then again, the Inquisition has a lot of power, and could pull other Chapters in to defend itself, and probably would. They also are easily able to command the Guard, so... It would be an interesting fight. I'm pretty sure both the Lion and Robute would side against the Inq, but then again, the Lion is a weird one; he might just side with the Inq because "fuck you that's why."
It would be entertaining, so long as it was written well.
Doubt the Lion would. RG would command the stand down of human forces, IG, IN, and the Assassinorum. If there were some rogue elements, the more to the fight, the merrier🤷♂️
You know, that could be an interesting way to bring back something akin to the old Inquisitor game mixed with other stuff...Inquisitors and their retinues involved in a civil war amidst that with sides drawn there.
Man I am addicted to these space marine stories subbed
Talking around corners & giving answers to questions not asked!
The Black Templars do not wear the Aquilae. They are the Aquilae! The Black Templars need to make a conference call to the Raven Guard & Raptors! An Ordo really needs an abject lesson in "Covert/ Clandestine" Spec-Ops!..... lovin'this...lol.
Many thanx Rho 👍👍
Dont forget chapters like the red hunters, exorcists, charcaradons astra and minotaurs would 100% side with the inquisition, helbrecht vs asterion molech would be one helluva fight
But would they, knowing a loyalist chapter was basically unalived by a Inquisitor? I'd like to think they'd sit it out, as should the IG and IN.
@@AzrealMaximus yes they would because in the case of the red hunters and exorcists are basically run by the inquisition and the characaradons looting rights and ability to resupply from loyalist chapters depends entirely on the inquisition being ok with it. In the case of the minotaurs they take orders directly from the high lords of terra.
@@paul-antonywhatshisface3954 the high lords that RG had installed, right?😏
@@AzrealMaximus fair point
I can see this leading to a sudo full war of the imperium vs space marines. I've had a running theory we will see imperium secundus again one day and I feel likethis may just lead to it.
Roboute will not want a war between the Inquisition and the Templars and their allies. Not because he doesn’t want to get rid of the Inquisition but because he needs everyone he can get to fight the Xeno and Chaos. If Guilliman acts against the Inquisition it will be like how he dealt with the rebellious high Lords. Wait for them to gather then strike in one fell swoop decapitating the leadership with assassins and re absorbing their forces. He would also want to wait until he can replace the inquisition with some new investigative bureau
Notice how some of the Inquisition’s biggest scandals have happened around Armageddon? The War of Shame against the Wolves, now the campaign of betrayal against the Lions… both of which could quite possibly mean the “end of the world” for the Institution.
It's the acts of the Inquisition that makes me enjoy things like 'The Month Of Shame' so very much.
When a chapter petverbially slaps the inquisition in the face, then not only resists the consequences but take it up a notch.
If only he knew that he would have 2 loyal primarcs who would probably be more than happy to help him wipe out the inquisition
Would have liked to see that particular faction of the Ordos humbled.
Between pissing off the templars, the wolves and the returning Lion, inquisition’s days may be numbered.
The Inquisition is very fragmented and individual and they tend to stay out of each others' business unless serious lines have been crossed. This is definitely a crossing of way too many lines though, so the fact that Apollyon and whoever else are still operating and pursuing this personal vendetta tells me that they are definitely a powerful figure with many allies in and outside of the inquisition. It would be interesting to see this boil over into a big internal conflict in the inquisition..
Plot twist Russ comes back and learns that the Inquisition attacked Fenris and leads the wolves and templars in an all out war against them.
Blood for the blood god!!! Skulls for the skull throne!!!!
Skulls for the couch potatoe
I have not read Spear of the Emperor yet but I bet they too, the Spears, must have been baffled to see the Chapter Master of their comrades being killed in such a base manner, limited as they might be compared to the Black Templars they probably would side with the Lions which just might also help bring the gaze of the Lord Commander towards the issue
My favorite chapter, you dont mess with the Black Templars.
I’d like to see the fall of the inquisition it be nice
Today, kids, we learn how one inquisitor kicked off the Imperium next civil war!
This would be amazing templars vs inquisition, basically the same organizations.
the Lion Knights stand with our brothers the Celestial Lions! we will march on the Inquisition! For Dorn! For the Emperor!
The Black Templar Legion are the sword of the emperor. Praise the emperor.
i believe many astartes chapters would soon find that they have all suffered at the hands of the inquisition when or if they put their collective heads together and woe betide the inquisition then
I want this plot thread to be pursued so badly. If this became a real thing, I'll repaint every space marine I own to become Black Templars.
Not the Lions?
I think it’s about time someone stood up to the inquisitions shenanigans, and the Black Templars are the perfect chapter for the job.
They probably got a legion and half just tucked away somewhere.
I pray for dorn to meet the templars and Lament his treatment of sigismund
This is a more interesting story than the return of Lionel Johnson.
The astartes taking on the inquisition, or one of it's Hordos at least, would make for a great story. However, with the current state of events, I do not think either side would risk it.
But if the bloodline of Dorn takes on the big I boys, and more chapters ally with the Templars I truly hope to see the Fenrisians take part on this events for no one fells inquisition ships like they do. I'd also love for Lukas the Trikster to be majorly involved, giving some good old landing coordinates or something 😂.
There are surely some female inquisitors it is worth landing over for Lukas.
And many of them would like to inquisite about the many abilities of an Astertes like Lukas.
The Lion: So you tried to kill my brother's sons!!!
Guiliman: Brother. Please don't nuke them
Inquisitor: YOU'RE GONNA NUKE US!!!!
(Dorn returns)
Dorn: I'll take care of it
I think it would be a great series of books and a campaign setting
I feel like tzeench is also have a hand in this.
The inquisition has successfully pissed off Dorn's boys, Russ' boys, they pissed off Guilliman and his sons when they tried to kill him, ditto for the Lion and the Dark Angels and I'm fairly sure the Adeptas Sororitas would not tolerate a repeat of the whole Vandire incident. Vulkan and his sons would side with their brother as would Corvus and his Ravens. Are there ANY loyalist factions that would even lift a finger to help the inquisition with the shitstorm of pissed off allies they've created for themselves?? I'm pretty sure they've burned bridges with basically all of their allies.
With the Primarchs being like “da fuq” in regards to the Inquisition even existing I can see them seizing on an opportunity to eradicate that thorn in their side.
The Sons of Dorne have a tradition giving the I respect due to their station and i wonder how many Inquisitors died in those 3 days
Can the fanatics of Sigismund's descent stand up to the cloak and dagger tactics of the inquisition?
I sure hope Alpharius' lessons to Dorn has taken root...
This won't stop with handing over a single inquisitor. This will bring up every single incident between the astartes and the inquisition.
Not only that the inquisition has a lot to answer for. The incident with the nids. Killing trillions of innocent imperial citizens and loads more crap. Yeah they had this coming
The Inquisition loves to present itself as ubiquitous and almighty. But the simple truth is that they are riven with internal rivalries and faction warfare. If the BTs declare war, unified as they are by their faith, the Inquisition may unite together, or some of them may simply step aside and try to ride the conflict out to their own agenda.
The miniatures would probably take the inq side and a few others that work for them directly. The inq faction would probably lie to the high lords and get miniatures on their side
You'll eventually become Marshal Rho . . . and I'd gladly welcome you to the fold!
Get the Flesh Tearers, Space Wolves and Emperor's Spears together and we're good to go.
They're really speedrunning "piss off literally everyone because of our egos", aren't they? The Avenging Son isn't going to be happy if he hears about it.
The main problem with "War on the Inquisition" is that they don't exactly hold much land in the traditional sense to lay in to (though the lands of those they keep in a strangehold, perhaps not so much...). It'd be like trying to strangle water.