Wow, as I've mentioned in several videos, you are one of the best RC reviewers. I love it when you detail and disassemble the entire RC so that your followers can see everything that the RC offers. Thank you very much. Keep it up, you're doing well.
i love how in depth you get with the breakdowns of the cars you test so much info that most youtubers dont take the time to show keep up the great content man this is a pretty cool truck id love to have one.
I love how deep you dive into every car you make a video on. I don't think anyone else does this the way you do and give such a comprehensive view on what it's like to work on these cars. I think Arrma is really doing an amazing job with all the updates on their cars and they seem like really good cars at the price they're being sold. I'm also slightly surprised to see all the minor updates and improvements Arrma keeps making to their cars while not raising prices. This is really awesome to see unlike another brand I do like but won't mention that starts with a T. I consider myself an enthusiast like you, so I don't like seeing the two in one esc/receivers but they seem decent and are fine for the average RC hobbyist.
When a new RC is introduced, there are many RC-related UA-cam channels that launch a review of this RC. But often these are superficial reports with a summary of the specifications and a test drive. And sometimes mainly just talking about what a supplier wants to hear (advertising talk). That is why I find it very special to see on this UA-cam channel how an RC is taken apart and we as viewers hear a very extensive and informative report. Compliments for the great deal of work and effort to make such a review. 🆒🎦👌👍👍👍
I watch alot of rc UA-camrs but by far now you are the best channel yet from information wise to quality, and sound wise too. Not to mentioned love that you go and beyond the stock limits. No channels do that. It really tells us how the rc is capable of. So thx. You got yourself a sub approval!!!👍🏽👏
Yeah I really like to see what these things can handle. I know it's impossible to get a perfect long-term durability test in a single video but pushing them harder than they were originally designed for helps to show their weaknesses
First RC channel I have subscribed to as I appreciate the in depth details and breakdown of every car I have seen on your channel. I have been doing RCs for quite a bit now and I really enjoy this channel the most. While gaining knowledge of the platform, we are also seeing how to troubleshoot and work on every part of the car. Keep up the amazing job my friend!
Great deep dive on the v4 trucks!! For the servo saver situation, you can retrofit a losi lmt servo saver by raising your servo up a bit. I put the vitavon losi lmt servo saver on my kraton 4s v2.5 and shimmed the servo up. Garage Life RC sells a rising kit for the arrma 3 and 4s or the whole kit with the stock lmt servo saver as well. Makes the steering feel way more precise and responsive. Stock steering is way too sloppy lol now the truck turns great👌
I suspect we will see them at least fairly soon though I figured we'd get the 6s trucks not long after the EXP V2 came out and that didn't happen so I guess we'll just have to say
@@DoRC They did kinda refresh all the 6s line. They started putting the new esc, motor, and servo in all the 6s vehicles after the Kraton EXB came out. I am hoping a more comprehensive update of the 6s rigs is coming soon. They are my favorite line of trucks and there is a couple of them I don't have yet.
ALWAYS the best breakdown of the truck!! I thought it was great, then you WOKE IT UP on 4S!!!! Yikes!!! Great bash!!!! mines on preorder!!!! Chassis brace coming soon!!!
I see this channel often in my feed but typically skip past it and I’m not sure why, it could be the thumbnail, the channel name or something having to do with presentation. But every once in a while when I do click on a video I’m immediately immersed in the detail of the review. This is not meant to be negative, if anything maybe it could be taken as some sort of vague constructive criticism. I truly think there’s potential for way more viewership somewhere here. Either way, this was much more informative than any other channel I know of. I’ll just subscribe at this point!
as always wonderful content to your videos. i been in the hospital for over a month. im trying to catch up on the ones i missed. always great info every rc enthusiast should watch before buying a rig. thanks again. Have Fun
Now that I have mine, I can share the information lol horizon is clearances out quite a few of their old motors, and from what I understand, the new motors are actually produced from spectrum as well as the two in one ESC receivers
I was thinking of getting a Omni Terminator for Black Friday but I’m kind of falling in love with the 2 wheel drive brushless fury’s. They just look so fun to drive. P.S. you are definitely the MVP of RC UA-cam 2024!
I can’t decide, now the 1/8 Typhon has been calling my name. I have the Grom and man that thing cooks! I always though bashing around and ramping was what I wanted to do but after feeling the speed and control it’s hard to not want to go bigger with it.
I am such a fan boy of Arrma and I love your reviews thanks for another awesome detailed overview I hope you grow your channel cause you do a great job on here
Great vid, and whenever I see the thick grass in your backyard, Im always thinking, only a 1/8th truck or 1/10th scale monster truck can easily pass through that grass lol
Gotta applaud the center diff and metal pivot balls. I stopped funneling money into my Granite because i was tired of the slipper clutch. Yes, I'm that much of a snob. Quiet, peasant, while i eat my escargot and eel pie. Seriously, i hated that slipper. It mocked me. Now with a center diff i have "tuna-bility"
Hot racing axial ryft 1/10 servo saver plus a 11mm spacer to go under to servo, along with longer screws. I designed and 3d printed a spacer. This was on my outcast and now it actually turns under power. No more slowing down just to turn.
Love the review on this one! Definitely the most comprehensive I have seen 👍 Changing that plastic input gear to steel is key to durability on the 3s trucks. I have worn out multiple input gears and have almost no wear on the spur gear. The center diff is such a good upgrade too! I hate keeping that slipper clutch set right.
Yes! Glad you're tearing this open. Any chance you could do a video for suggested ESCs for people that want to ditch the 2-in-1? I'm especially interested in straight drop in ESCs for these and Groms.
I have several different videos on brushless Grom upgrades. As far as this is concerned it just depends on what your goals are. If you are just looking to use a different transmitter the BLX 100 firma 100 firma 120 ESCs would be the easiest option. If you want something with some more spice the new Cobra 10 is a beast!
Spektrum firma 150a v2 (black) I throw that esc from Jenny's at everything I drive😅 Really nice for running 3s 1/10 on 4s batteries with an 18t pinion.
Worth mentioning that the center differential's main purpose for existing is to work with the front and rear differentials to allow all 4 wheels to turn at different speeds when cornering, reducing loads on the drive train and improving cornering traction. The protection to the driveline is a nice bonus, but that is not really any different to the protection offered by a centre slipper clutch
That may be true for racers but for bashing that sort of fine tuning really isn't the purpose. The main purpose of a center diff is decoupling the front and rear essentially as a safety measure. A center differential and a slipper actually perform two totally different functions. The slipper decouples the entire drivetrain from the motor and the center differential decouples the front of the drivetrain from the rear of the drivetrain.
@@DoRCsorry, I was meaning more in general about center diffs, so people were aware of their original purpose in road cars. Absolutely fair that for bashing they provide protection first, and in a better way than a slipper clutch. I was always disappointed so many companies didn't run center diffs, great to see them make their way down to smaller vehicles.
@blackout19 ah gotcha. Yeah they definitely serve a different purpose with these bashers. I like to see them in just about everything as it really helps protect the drivetrain.
@@DoRCcheck out garagelife rc for his servo saver kit... I helped him to design this it comes with a riser for the new receiver box it comes with and a lmt style aluminum adjustable servo saver Ben using them for awhile now in my 4s cars
Awesome 👏. If you still need a small torx bit Home Depot has a Husky driver with t4-t9 for like $6 . We all use them for taking apart knives . It’s the best cheapest deal I’ve seen 👍. Good luck
Upgrade for servosaver is a 6 mm spacer (i 3d printed mine) to raise the servo itself and have a Losi LMT (LOS241037) adjustable servo saver instead. works perfect, and eliminates the bad stock one completly
Another chassis brace option is to make your own. I made a couple out of some carbon fiber sheets. I order a 50x3x400mm sheet and cut it to length and drill and counter sink the screws. You will need longer screws here too but this has stoped the rear section from snapping off.
Thanks for showing so much about this new version. *Tiny batteries needed with that center diff. It's the only thing keeping me from a v4, so I bought another v3. This thing is absolutely nuts on 150a 4s!😂
Yeah I've used that one before and it definitely is better than stock but I've had some issues with the plastic inserts and it does tend to loosen up over time.
Love your videos brother. I manage a hobby shop here in Las Vegas and i get alot of my info about the new rigs from your videos that i pass on to my customers....love how you deep dive into them..keep up the great videos
So stoked for these v4 trucks! Are they doing the granite and big rock too? Hopefully the new big rock has more than one color. Great review as always 🤘👍
Clipless design doesn’t loosen up as it wears in. The dirt and dust make it such a pain. I have two Mojave Groms and they are both the same way with the clipless design. As soon as I run them in some dirt or dust, the clipless sections get stuck and you have to force them loose.
In my experience over time they do tend to loosen up but it can take a little while. This specific design doesn't seem to be as susceptible to getting stuck as some but it is susceptible to it
The main problem I had with the vorteks was that whenever I had a bad landing and landed on the wing the body would crack and eventually my wing just snapped of. I really up they come up with a fix for that.
Thank you for making this video my biggest concern was that 2 in 1 80 amp esc receiver combo but your performance test put that to rest I’m very interested in the new thphon or the next big rock v4 that eventually will be announced..
Yeah I don't think you'll be disappointed in it. Even at 80 amps you're going to be traction limited anyway so unless the two in one nature itself is a problem I think it'll be fine
I thought I saw someone say in the comments to melt a hole in the servo saver housing and fill it with silicone . It would take a couple days to cure up and stiffen . I think they said take it apart but they don’ t go back together easily is what folks were saying .
Yeah you could do that. I'm not sure how effective it would be long-term or how it would affect the actual saving part of the servo saver but sounds like an intriguing idea.
Regarding drivetrain durability: a proper set up slipper usually should save the drive train from damage when landing. But The improved handling definitely is positive point for a center diff. The best solution would be to have a center diff with a slipper clutch. Unfortunately it's really rare that manufacturers do this. Hpi offered this as a upgrade for the savage AFAIR, but right now HNR is the only company that offers this as standard in their 6s basher called x-mars. The x-mars is an excellent vehicle and you should try it out if you have the chance!
They don't really serve the same purpose. The slipper clutch decouples the motor from the rest of the drivetrain but the center differential decouples the front and rear of the drivetrain. A slipper clutch isn't going to do anything to help protect drivetrain components when one end of the drivetrain needs to suddenly stop or start while the other end is in the air etc. The slipper clutch is better than nothing but it really doesn't do much to protect most of the drivetrain.
Yeah at It's original price and with the problems it had to begin with the empty welcome fantastic five but they've had some crazy sales lately and then really improve its value
Center diffs don't get rid of force. It moves force from the back and sends it to the front. This happens because of weight transfer to the rear under acceleration. The rear tires have more traction so the front tires spin up.
They don't get rid of force but they decouple the two ends of the drivetrain. The front and rear can spin at different speeds which means that on things like jump landings and whatnot The entire drivetrain isn't forced to speed up or slow down at the same time. Like you said it also does allow energy to bleed off through the tires that have less traction under acceleration which helps prevent things like the drive shafts getting twisted too hard etc.
I'm on the verge of picking up Either the typhon or this one. It seems like a no brainer with all the included upgrades! The weakest part I had on my granite were the diffs and plastic ball ends. Changed those diffs out for the 4s ones and the car was perfect. 2-1 esc isn't really a big deal at all if the performance is just as good as its predecessor if not better.
I have the hot racing servo saver in my Granite, the one that doesnt have the plastic insert along with a TC Sketer servo. It seems to work fine but im not a steering snob
I tried one of those a while back and it definitely was better than the slopped out stock when I was replacing it with but I don't really think it was much of a improvement over stock. Especially with upgraded servos. Someone else mentioned using an LMT servo saver with servo riser spacers. That seems like the way to go
This will be my first basher and it is because of this video. Great job. Coming from the crawler side and using the hobby wing fusion series exclusively I’m not familiar with the ESC you tested. I want to use my own receiver so I can use my Noble Nb4+. All in all, is it a good choice for this vehicle despite the delay off the line issue? If not is there another 2-3s recommendation?
Yeah it's fine but I would recommend getting the hobby wing 10 BL 120 G2 instead. It won't be quite as easy to mount but it's a more modern option That doesn't really have that hesitation issue.
I'm not sure. People don't ever really seem to be too excited about the giveaways so I've kind of slacked off on them but I'm sure there will be more in the future.
Possible to put a 8BL150 esc and 4074 motor combo in this car or the new Typhon 3S to make it 4S? I have a feeling drive train might be able to take it and I got spare electronics lying around.
Thanks for the great content! Are you going to review the new typhon too? I am looking to buy my first RC and I am leaning towards a buggy. I will not hard bash. Onroad and offroad driving. Concrete grass gravel dirt. Maybe small jumps.. Vorteks might be an option too. But I like buggy style. Would be realy interested in a typhon 223s and syncro 4 comparison video. I am sure many are.. Any plans to make such video? Thx
@DoRC that make sense. Just noticed that you did review the syncro 4 some time ago. What will be the better choice? 223s or the syncro 4? Both 399 euro in the Netherlands. Looking for durability and low maintenance. Only light bashing, mild jumps if any. Ps typhon 3s just got on sale here locally. 259 euro. Is that a deal I shouldnt pass up? Please advice me sir. Thanks!
Great video man, I have an observation though. I have a Gorgon that also has a 2in1 esc-receiver, and it is stated clearly in the manual that you can connect a different receiver, which will override the in-built one. That covers the swapping of the receiver and not the esc, but not the other way around. Now, I havent read the vorteks' manual ofc, but i believe it's a safe bet that the same thing applies here as well. Could you please confirm/debunk that? Again, thanks for the great video!
Unfortunately whereas on the brushed ESC it does appear to have that functionality the 223S ESCs don't. There's nothing in the manual about it and the single available port is labeled fans/aux socket.
My Typhon 3S's plastic input gears were definitely a weak point. It's nice to see they're changing them to steel. Also, is it possible to put the new center differential in the V3 cars or is the chassis too different?
It's possible I have a video on it :-) You may need to dish out the area where the spur gear goes in order for it to fit easily but it definitely fits.
So many steps forward but that 2 in 1 is a step back. Probably fine for stock but real enthusiasts are gonna yank that out. The last model also came with the dx3
I agree from an enthusiast standpoint but if I had to guess I'd say that probably only represents a few percent of their total demographic. I suspect if the two and one thing was going to be a problem for their general audience they wouldn't have done it.
Great Video as always, I love your detailed and honest content ❤❤ About the "reciver" change. Of course you loose your inbuild gyro but almost EVERY single remote has its own gyro system, so thats not a big loos... Second thing I wanna ask, because I only have experience with the Arrma 6s lineup... why are this small trucks running planetary gears in their differentials and not typical spider gears?
I'm not sure why they choose to run the different style of internal gears. Functionally it does the same thing. Given the increase in tooth engagement this actually might be a stronger design but if that's the case then why don't they do it on the larger ones too? Not sure.
Do you think that both ESC's are really equal or that it's that both are capable of applying all that motor can handle or that the battery can supply? I'd be curious if the results changed with a bigger motor and or bigger/ better battery. Those 20 amps gotta matter eventually. Also wonder if the results would be different with both turning the bigger tires?
It's hard to know for sure. Given the traction limitations even at 80 amps they feel about the same but it is possible if you were pushing them both to their absolute limit and had enough traction etc to do so that you would see better performance out of the 100 amp. For the most part though bashing around in sand grass etc I just don't think you're going to notice a difference
Performance basically the same as the old system. I use to bash 2-in-1 systems but that's because they were all brushed. Now that they're coming up with brushless versions that can easily handle 2-3s, I really don't mind it. 3s on a 1/10 rig is the most I'm ever looking to do anyways. I could see this type of setup becoming the norm in RTRs going forward.
Great video as always! Since both now has center diffs which do you think is the most durable car between the new Arrma line and the mt10? And which is easier to work on? :)
I think the Arrma in general is easier to work on. Durability is tough. I have a lot more experience with the Arrmas then the MT-10 though they both have reasonably good reputations. I'd probably go with the Arrma Just For parts and upgrade availability
No. I'm guessing what you heard was the tires touching the body. In some of the earlier shots I had a wire outside of the chassis which was pushing the body out causing the tire to make contact and then later with the bigger tires they were rubbing all over the place.
Yeah I think the bullets might be a lower end style than the previous version. I didn't have any issues with them but it's definitely something to keep an eye on
Great review, love my Vorteks and happy to see they're improving on an already great vehicle (imo). Btw I think the Vorteks came with the Firma 100A ESC, not the BLX100. Also had a SR6200A receiver/DX3 with AVC... this ESC/receiver seems like a downgrade compared to previous gen (both feature- and flexibility-wise)... Think there's a way to get those new bodies on the older cars? Thanks for the review!
Yes it does come with the firma 100 but that's very similar to the ESC I used in it. The firma 100 has a 7.4 volt BEC but it's basically the same power and feels almost identical to the BLX 100. I believe the chassis is the same length in the shock towers are the same so assuming that's the case you can just buy the new mounts and body. I would recommend verifying that with the exploded view diagrams first though
@@DoRC Ah oh thanks for the clarification! You mentioned that the BLX100s had that "hesitation off the line" which I had never noticed with the Firma 100A but then again I'm not the most observant when it comes to those things! New ESC looks solid, how does DSC feel compared to "full fat" AVC? And what does that 'set' button do? Btw couple weeks ago I broke a shock on my Vorteks in the same exact way as you did... was kinda shocked (no pun intended) what's up with that!
@mcarignan The firma 100 was better but still had a little bit of it. I think all of the three and 4S first generation based hobbywing ESCs had the same problem. It wasn't so much a full-on hesitation it was just a ramp up of acceleration that other ESCs don't have. Without comparing it back to back with something that doesn't do that it's hard to tell but yes ESCs like the ones from Castle and to a little bit lesser degree these new ones will just explode off the line and it feels better
@@DoRC Ah, gotcha! Now you've got me excited to try one of these next-gen vehicles! Thanks again for the review and explanations, really appreciate it! 👍
I broke the same style arrma shock in a very similar way a couple weekends ago after unintentionally hitting a jump ramp at around 60 mph (also RIP chassis and front shock tower). What was that grinding noise near the end of the video while on 4s? It sounded like a session ender but since it wasn't mentioned I'm assuming all is well
Yes it will. I have a video showing the installation. You may need to do a little bit of thinning out of the chassis right where the spur gear goes to make it easy to install and remove but it does work. I'm not sure about the body mounts. Check the exploded view diagram and see if the shock towers are the same between the two models if they are I suspect it will work fine
One step forward with the center diff, two steps back with the 2-in-1 ESC/receiver. Shame you can't buy the center diff and just drop it into older V3 platforms, the chassis looks different as well.
You definitely can. I have a video about doing it. You may need to do a slight bit of shaving on the inside of the chassis in order to make it easy to remove and install but it's a direct drop in other than that
Pretty sick looking car the body and upgrades all really cool the 2 in one esc don't really like especially if u can't program it like up the punch and stuff like that ....
I suspect this is done to save money which is nice to keep the cost down and most people probably never touch the electronics though of course I've enthusiasts do.
It's so that if debris gets in there it doesn't get jammed between the spur and the chassis. It's a really common thing on flat chassis cars. Not everybody does it but it actually doesn't cause any problems at least in my experience.
@gothbricks2000 because those areas are never truly sealed and on most cars they're not sealed at all. In this specific case it is pretty well sealed so I'm not certain why Arrma decided to go with the hole.
I don't know the exact maximum battery tray size. You can probably look it up but the battery that I had in there in the video was pretty much filling the entire tray
@DoRC thats about 137mm so about 140mm id say but the wires do need to come out of the top so yea normal size hardcase online it says 160mm i believe idk how to make that fit
I suspect it will. Check the part numbers for the towers and chassis and make sure that the same between the two versions. If they are then yeah it should be fine
Yeah I've tried it and found it was kind of comparable to the original when the original is new. I fed other people say the LMT servo saver with a spacer for the servo is the way to go. That sounds like a great option.
@@DoRC If you use Kimbrough saver, you want the Kimbrough #124 HD saver. This is intended for large gas cars, it has a pretty strong spring in it. I use the #124 HD in my 3s & 4s Arrma's, you just need to trim off the corners on the saver arm for clearance in Arrma's.
I'm a relative newbie to the hobby, I'm in the market for a sturdy basher. Atm I have a couple of Tamiya kits which are obviously not built for proper bashing. This looks good, but I'm also drawn to the Rlaarlo Omni Terminator. Which would you recommend of those two?
As a newbie I'd recommend this one. You'll have easier access to spares, it's a bit easier to work on and overall I think it's a more user-friendly platform
Wow, as I've mentioned in several videos, you are one of the best RC reviewers. I love it when you detail and disassemble the entire RC so that your followers can see everything that the RC offers. Thank you very much. Keep it up, you're doing well.
Thanks glad you enjoyed!
There is a description for you. Par excellence!
@DoRC is there any chance you can confirm if the fury has the steel pivot balls and also try to fit the vortex adjustable turnbuckles to the fury?
This channel deserves SO many more subscribers! The review is so incredibly detailed.
Thanks Glad you enjoyed!
agreed wishing you all the success.
@babupranav thanks!
i love how in depth you get with the breakdowns of the cars you test so much info that most youtubers dont take the time to show keep up the great content man this is a pretty cool truck id love to have one.
As long as you guys keep watching it I'll keep making them :-)
@DoRC sounds like a deal 🤝
I love how deep you dive into every car you make a video on. I don't think anyone else does this the way you do and give such a comprehensive view on what it's like to work on these cars. I think Arrma is really doing an amazing job with all the updates on their cars and they seem like really good cars at the price they're being sold. I'm also slightly surprised to see all the minor updates and improvements Arrma keeps making to their cars while not raising prices. This is really awesome to see unlike another brand I do like but won't mention that starts with a T. I consider myself an enthusiast like you, so I don't like seeing the two in one esc/receivers but they seem decent and are fine for the average RC hobbyist.
I agree. It's really nice to see them not increase their prices.
@@DoRC Speaking of raising prices, the Mini Maxx is posted as $269.95 now instead of $249.95 on the official website.
@FlailinMonkey Yeah I saw that. Pretty crazy for them to raise the price before it's even released.
Dude, the detail you go into is fantastic. Love the nerdy engineering details as much as possible. Nice work!
I'm glad you enjoy! It's what I love to do and I love sharing it with you guys :-)
When a new RC is introduced, there are many RC-related UA-cam channels that launch a review of this RC. But often these are superficial reports with a summary of the specifications and a test drive. And sometimes mainly just talking about what a supplier wants to hear (advertising talk). That is why I find it very special to see on this UA-cam channel how an RC is taken apart and we as viewers hear a very extensive and informative report. Compliments for the great deal of work and effort to make such a review. 🆒🎦👌👍👍👍
I definitely try to be as objective as possible and want to give you guys all the details so as long as you guys keep watching I'll keep making :-)
I watch alot of rc UA-camrs but by far now you are the best channel yet from information wise to quality, and sound wise too. Not to mentioned love that you go and beyond the stock limits. No channels do that. It really tells us how the rc is capable of. So thx. You got yourself a sub approval!!!👍🏽👏
Yeah I really like to see what these things can handle. I know it's impossible to get a perfect long-term durability test in a single video but pushing them harder than they were originally designed for helps to show their weaknesses
First RC channel I have subscribed to as I appreciate the in depth details and breakdown of every car I have seen on your channel. I have been doing RCs for quite a bit now and I really enjoy this channel the most. While gaining knowledge of the platform, we are also seeing how to troubleshoot and work on every part of the car. Keep up the amazing job my friend!
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed and welcome to the channel :-)
Great deep dive on the v4 trucks!! For the servo saver situation, you can retrofit a losi lmt servo saver by raising your servo up a bit. I put the vitavon losi lmt servo saver on my kraton 4s v2.5 and shimmed the servo up. Garage Life RC sells a rising kit for the arrma 3 and 4s or the whole kit with the stock lmt servo saver as well. Makes the steering feel way more precise and responsive. Stock steering is way too sloppy lol now the truck turns great👌
Nice! That's the solution I was looking for. I have tried a couple of different aftermarket direct drop-ins and they just didn't work well.
Awesome video! All those updates are fantastic, I hope they update the Big Rock like this. You are my favorite rc reviewer, thank you!
Granite and Big Rock will be updated soon. Everythong else would be a big surprise...
I suspect we will see them at least fairly soon though I figured we'd get the 6s trucks not long after the EXP V2 came out and that didn't happen so I guess we'll just have to say
@@DoRC They did kinda refresh all the 6s line. They started putting the new esc, motor, and servo in all the 6s vehicles after the Kraton EXB came out. I am hoping a more comprehensive update of the 6s rigs is coming soon. They are my favorite line of trucks and there is a couple of them I don't have yet.
Great video, I sold my last Vorteks, I’m looking to get this now and this video sold me on it! I love how you ripped the truck apart completely!
Yeah overall it's a pretty good truck. Definitely the best bang for your buck in the 110th scale stadium truck category
@ cool thanks for the reply!
Great video! Love the deep dive showing the nitty gritty of it all! We're excited to get these in and see how they hold up!
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I don't think you'll be disappointed! Thanks for watching :-)
Great video, as always! Superb, accurate reviews, teardowns, testings and upgrades! 👏🙏👌
Thanks glad you enjoyed!
ALWAYS the best breakdown of the truck!! I thought it was great, then you WOKE IT UP on 4S!!!! Yikes!!! Great bash!!!! mines on preorder!!!! Chassis brace coming soon!!!
Sweet!
Just preordered mine thanks to this video. Supposed to ship in January. Love your content!
Awesome Hope you enjoy it!
I see this channel often in my feed but typically skip past it and I’m not sure why, it could be the thumbnail, the channel name or something having to do with presentation. But every once in a while when I do click on a video I’m immediately immersed in the detail of the review. This is not meant to be negative, if anything maybe it could be taken as some sort of vague constructive criticism. I truly think there’s potential for way more viewership somewhere here. Either way, this was much more informative than any other channel I know of. I’ll just subscribe at this point!
Thanks for subscribing and I think you'll like most of the videos I make!
The best in-depth preview....Awesome job!
Thanks Glad you enjoyed!
as always wonderful content to your videos. i been in the hospital for over a month. im trying to catch up on the ones i missed. always great info every rc enthusiast should watch before buying a rig. thanks again. Have Fun
Thanks and I hope you get better soon!
This new Vorteks looks very promising! Thanks for sharing your impressions.
You're welcome thanks for watching!
arrma never fails to amaze with their design and durability since my 4X4 Granite
Now that I have mine, I can share the information lol horizon is clearances out quite a few of their old motors, and from what I understand, the new motors are actually produced from spectrum as well as the two in one ESC receivers
Spectrum doesn't make any of the electronics. It's just a brand that they put on stuff that's made by other OEMs.
@@DoRC i see
Your channel is an incredible resource!
Glad you're finding it useful!
I was thinking of getting a Omni Terminator for Black Friday but I’m kind of falling in love with the 2 wheel drive brushless fury’s. They just look so fun to drive.
P.S. you are definitely the MVP of RC UA-cam 2024!
Thinking the same thing, Fury looks fun
They definitely are. 2 wheel drive is a bit more limiting than four wheel drive but it is a lot of fun.
I can’t decide, now the 1/8 Typhon has been calling my name. I have the Grom and man that thing cooks! I always though bashing around and ramping was what I wanted to do but after feeling the speed and control it’s hard to not want to go bigger with it.
They had to do something. That Redcat Valkyrie has to be hurting Arrma's 3s and 4s sales.
Great videos, I’ll watch them even on cars I have zero interest in buying because I almost always learn a good tip or trick here and there!
Awesome glad you enjoy!
I am such a fan boy of Arrma and I love your reviews thanks for another awesome detailed overview I hope you grow your channel cause you do a great job on here
Thanks glad you enjoyed!
Another brilliant and thorough review!
Thanks :-)
Love your detailed analysis. Props to you!!!
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Great vid, and whenever I see the thick grass in your backyard, Im always thinking, only a 1/8th truck or 1/10th scale monster truck can easily pass through that grass lol
Yeah it's definitely more of a challenge for smaller trucks but take a look at my rlaarlo 1/10 scale rally car video. I think you'll be impressed
Awesome job as always! Look forward to more!
Stay tuned! Plenty more to come :-)
Excellent review from every aspect. Subscribed!
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I’m a big fan of this channel and whenever there is a new car out, I will search here
Glad you enjoy! Plenty more coming :-)
Gotta applaud the center diff and metal pivot balls.
I stopped funneling money into my Granite because i was tired of the slipper clutch.
Yes, I'm that much of a snob.
Quiet, peasant, while i eat my escargot and eel pie.
Seriously, i hated that slipper. It mocked me.
Now with a center diff i have "tuna-bility"
Agreed. The center differential is the main upgrade here
Great vid, my go, to best info, RC channel!
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching!
Hot racing axial ryft 1/10 servo saver plus a 11mm spacer to go under to servo, along with longer screws. I designed and 3d printed a spacer. This was on my outcast and now it actually turns under power. No more slowing down just to turn.
Nice!
Love the review on this one! Definitely the most comprehensive I have seen 👍 Changing that plastic input gear to steel is key to durability on the 3s trucks. I have worn out multiple input gears and have almost no wear on the spur gear. The center diff is such a good upgrade too! I hate keeping that slipper clutch set right.
Yeah I think they made some really good key upgrades!
Yes! Glad you're tearing this open.
Any chance you could do a video for suggested ESCs for people that want to ditch the 2-in-1? I'm especially interested in straight drop in ESCs for these and Groms.
I have several different videos on brushless Grom upgrades. As far as this is concerned it just depends on what your goals are. If you are just looking to use a different transmitter the BLX 100 firma 100 firma 120 ESCs would be the easiest option. If you want something with some more spice the new Cobra 10 is a beast!
@@DoRCappreciate you!
@BeardRubEnjoyer thanks for watching!
Spektrum firma 150a v2 (black)
I throw that esc from Jenny's at everything I drive😅
Really nice for running 3s 1/10 on 4s batteries with an 18t pinion.
Hopefully the Granite gets an update as well.
I think it would be pretty strange if it didn't.
The best for last!!!
:)
Great review. I like your deep dives a lot. Best in class in my opinion 👍🏻
Thanks Glad you enjoy! If you guys keep watching them I'll keep making them :-)
Damn, its been a minute since I bought an ARRMA or even turned on one of mine, but they have been steadily stepping it up each year!
Yeah and not increasing their prices :-)
Worth mentioning that the center differential's main purpose for existing is to work with the front and rear differentials to allow all 4 wheels to turn at different speeds when cornering, reducing loads on the drive train and improving cornering traction. The protection to the driveline is a nice bonus, but that is not really any different to the protection offered by a centre slipper clutch
That may be true for racers but for bashing that sort of fine tuning really isn't the purpose. The main purpose of a center diff is decoupling the front and rear essentially as a safety measure.
A center differential and a slipper actually perform two totally different functions. The slipper decouples the entire drivetrain from the motor and the center differential decouples the front of the drivetrain from the rear of the drivetrain.
@@DoRCsorry, I was meaning more in general about center diffs, so people were aware of their original purpose in road cars. Absolutely fair that for bashing they provide protection first, and in a better way than a slipper clutch. I was always disappointed so many companies didn't run center diffs, great to see them make their way down to smaller vehicles.
@blackout19 ah gotcha. Yeah they definitely serve a different purpose with these bashers. I like to see them in just about everything as it really helps protect the drivetrain.
That's awesome you got one of these already way to go kenny
Yeah it's a pretty sweet car! Not perfect but good
@@DoRCcheck out garagelife rc for his servo saver kit... I helped him to design this it comes with a riser for the new receiver box it comes with and a lmt style aluminum adjustable servo saver Ben using them for awhile now in my 4s cars
Awesome 👏. If you still need a small torx bit Home Depot has a Husky driver with t4-t9 for like $6 . We all use them for taking apart knives . It’s the best cheapest deal I’ve seen 👍. Good luck
Thanks :-) I actually have plenty of torx tools I just couldn't find this particular size for some reason. I went ahead and ordered a replacement.
Upgrade for servosaver is a 6 mm spacer (i 3d printed mine) to raise the servo itself and have a Losi LMT (LOS241037) adjustable servo saver instead. works perfect, and eliminates the bad stock one completly
Yeah that seems like the go-to upgrade! Sounds great.
Another chassis brace option is to make your own. I made a couple out of some carbon fiber sheets. I order a 50x3x400mm sheet and cut it to length and drill and counter sink the screws. You will need longer screws here too but this has stoped the rear section from snapping off.
Awesome idea. It may not be necessary with this newest chassis as it does have some reinforcement in the rear as well
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Thanks for showing so much about this new version.
*Tiny batteries needed with that center diff. It's the only thing keeping me from a v4, so I bought another v3.
This thing is absolutely nuts on 150a 4s!😂
I guess it depends on what you mean by tiny. I can fit a standard 5200 3S in there. It's tight but it does fit
@DoRC I use 6-10k batteries😎
Thank you for an awesome overview!
Thanks for watching!
Great content 👍👍👍
Thanks and thanks for watching :-)
V4 BIG ROCK!
V4 BIG ROCK!
V4 BIG ROCK!
Idc if it’s 3s or 4s, that was my favorite 1/10 scale
in one week maybe they release Granite and BigRock 223s......
I'm sure it's coming
Hot Racing has a decent servo saver for these arrma rigs..believe it's a 23T but congress with the little plastic inserts to make it a 25T.
Yeah I've used that one before and it definitely is better than stock but I've had some issues with the plastic inserts and it does tend to loosen up over time.
Love your videos brother. I manage a hobby shop here in Las Vegas and i get alot of my info about the new rigs from your videos that i pass on to my customers....love how you deep dive into them..keep up the great videos
Hot Racing makes one specifically for 1/10 3s arrma with alloy 25t.
So stoked for these v4 trucks! Are they doing the granite and big rock too? Hopefully the new big rock has more than one color. Great review as always 🤘👍
I don't have any info on that though I would be really surprised if they weren't at some point.
My v1 senton now has the centre differential and loves 4s now and im planning on doing it to my v1 granite as well 😊
Brother, you're the Project Farm of RC, you sound like him and do Great reviews like him👏👏👍
Thanks man I will definitely take that as a compliment!
Clipless design doesn’t loosen up as it wears in. The dirt and dust make it such a pain. I have two Mojave Groms and they are both the same way with the clipless design. As soon as I run them in some dirt or dust, the clipless sections get stuck and you have to force them loose.
In my experience over time they do tend to loosen up but it can take a little while. This specific design doesn't seem to be as susceptible to getting stuck as some but it is susceptible to it
AWESOME SHOW 😊
Glad you enjoyed it :-)
The main problem I had with the vorteks was that whenever I had a bad landing and landed on the wing the body would crack and eventually my wing just snapped of. I really up they come up with a fix for that.
So far I've had good luck with this wing though possibly reinforcing with drywall tape and e6000 could be an answer
50mph on grass pretty fast for a 3s truck. Hopefully the center diff helps keep the driveshafts together. A known issue on these trucks. Nice review
I'm pretty confident it will. I beat on it pretty hard 4s which usually at least will twist those stock shafts and they still look perfect.
Arrma hitting one home run after another right now
This is definitely a lot for the money!
Thank you for making this video my biggest concern was that 2 in 1 80 amp esc receiver combo but your performance test put that to rest I’m very interested in the new thphon or the next big rock v4 that eventually will be announced..
Yeah I don't think you'll be disappointed in it. Even at 80 amps you're going to be traction limited anyway so unless the two in one nature itself is a problem I think it'll be fine
I thought I saw someone say in the comments to melt a hole in the servo saver housing and fill it with silicone . It would take a couple days to cure up and stiffen . I think they said take it apart but they don’ t go back together easily is what folks were saying .
Yeah you could do that. I'm not sure how effective it would be long-term or how it would affect the actual saving part of the servo saver but sounds like an intriguing idea.
Regarding drivetrain durability: a proper set up slipper usually should save the drive train from damage when landing. But The improved handling definitely is positive point for a center diff. The best solution would be to have a center diff with a slipper clutch. Unfortunately it's really rare that manufacturers do this. Hpi offered this as a upgrade for the savage AFAIR, but right now HNR is the only company that offers this as standard in their 6s basher called x-mars.
The x-mars is an excellent vehicle and you should try it out if you have the chance!
They don't really serve the same purpose. The slipper clutch decouples the motor from the rest of the drivetrain but the center differential decouples the front and rear of the drivetrain. A slipper clutch isn't going to do anything to help protect drivetrain components when one end of the drivetrain needs to suddenly stop or start while the other end is in the air etc. The slipper clutch is better than nothing but it really doesn't do much to protect most of the drivetrain.
Nice! Looks like the center diff fluid could be a little stiffer - would you agree?
Maybe a touch for on road use but I think it's pretty close for general bashing
Another great video Kenny. I’m still leaning towards the Kagama 4 for my next truck. I did just get the MT8 based on your videos and for only $317!!
Yeah at It's original price and with the problems it had to begin with the empty welcome fantastic five but they've had some crazy sales lately and then really improve its value
@@DoRC couldn’t beat the price. Now time to buy the Kagama4s
@@DoRC will you do an overlook of the Kagama 4S soon? Looking to get back into RC after a couple years and think it would be the ticket
@TastyGnocchi as soon as it gets here! It shipped out yesterday and I'm hoping it'll be here Saturday or maybe Monday. Trust me I can't wait!
Awesome review
Thanks glad you enjoyed!
Center diffs don't get rid of force. It moves force from the back and sends it to the front. This happens because of weight transfer to the rear under acceleration. The rear tires have more traction so the front tires spin up.
They don't get rid of force but they decouple the two ends of the drivetrain. The front and rear can spin at different speeds which means that on things like jump landings and whatnot The entire drivetrain isn't forced to speed up or slow down at the same time.
Like you said it also does allow energy to bleed off through the tires that have less traction under acceleration which helps prevent things like the drive shafts getting twisted too hard etc.
@DoRC yes that is correct
I'm on the verge of picking up Either the typhon or this one. It seems like a no brainer with all the included upgrades! The weakest part I had on my granite were the diffs and plastic ball ends. Changed those diffs out for the 4s ones and the car was perfect. 2-1 esc isn't really a big deal at all if the performance is just as good as its predecessor if not better.
I'd go for this one if you want a little more versatility but the Typhon if you don't mind less ground clearance and prefer better handling
I have the hot racing servo saver in my Granite, the one that doesnt have the plastic insert along with a TC Sketer servo. It seems to work fine but im not a steering snob
I've never tried the one without the plastic insert so maybe I'll have to give that a shot.
Maybe it's not a "great" upgrade but i used a Kimbrough servo saver on my Granite.
I tried one of those a while back and it definitely was better than the slopped out stock when I was replacing it with but I don't really think it was much of a improvement over stock. Especially with upgraded servos. Someone else mentioned using an LMT servo saver with servo riser spacers. That seems like the way to go
This will be my first basher and it is because of this video. Great job. Coming from the crawler side and using the hobby wing fusion series exclusively I’m not familiar with the ESC you tested. I want to use my own receiver so I can use my Noble Nb4+. All in all, is it a good choice for this vehicle despite the delay off the line issue? If not is there another 2-3s recommendation?
Yeah it's fine but I would recommend getting the hobby wing 10 BL 120 G2 instead. It won't be quite as easy to mount but it's a more modern option That doesn't really have that hesitation issue.
Looks like a nice budget basher... 🤟 When's the next giveaway?? Thanks Great Informative Videos!!
I'm not sure. People don't ever really seem to be too excited about the giveaways so I've kind of slacked off on them but I'm sure there will be more in the future.
@DoRC heck yeah I'd like to try to win another one from you I won the Suzuki Jimny from you.!! 🤟
Possible to put a 8BL150 esc and 4074 motor combo in this car or the new Typhon 3S to make it 4S? I have a feeling drive train might be able to take it and I got spare electronics lying around.
Yeah people have done that in the past and it's no problem. I'm sure there are videos about it
Thanks for the great content! Are you going to review the new typhon too? I am looking to buy my first RC and I am leaning towards a buggy. I will not hard bash. Onroad and offroad driving. Concrete grass gravel dirt. Maybe small jumps.. Vorteks might be an option too. But I like buggy style. Would be realy interested in a typhon 223s and syncro 4 comparison video. I am sure many are.. Any plans to make such video?
Thx
Probably not. The Vorteks and Typhon are pretty similar so it likely wouldn't make sense to review both of them.
@DoRC that make sense. Just noticed that you did review the syncro 4 some time ago. What will be the better choice? 223s or the syncro 4? Both 399 euro in the Netherlands. Looking for durability and low maintenance. Only light bashing, mild jumps if any.
Ps typhon 3s just got on sale here locally. 259 euro. Is that a deal I shouldnt pass up? Please advice me sir. Thanks!
Great video man, I have an observation though. I have a Gorgon that also has a 2in1 esc-receiver, and it is stated clearly in the manual that you can connect a different receiver, which will override the in-built one. That covers the swapping of the receiver and not the esc, but not the other way around. Now, I havent read the vorteks' manual ofc, but i believe it's a safe bet that the same thing applies here as well. Could you please confirm/debunk that?
Again, thanks for the great video!
Unfortunately whereas on the brushed ESC it does appear to have that functionality the 223S ESCs don't. There's nothing in the manual about it and the single available port is labeled fans/aux socket.
My Typhon 3S's plastic input gears were definitely a weak point. It's nice to see they're changing them to steel.
Also, is it possible to put the new center differential in the V3 cars or is the chassis too different?
It's possible I have a video on it :-) You may need to dish out the area where the spur gear goes in order for it to fit easily but it definitely fits.
@@DoRC So the module is the same as the 4S cars?
@@kilaueaproductions4210 pretty much or completly yes.
There is a Kimbrough servo saver that can fit Arrma 3s, but i dont know if its GREAT,or just a similar replacement
I have used that one in the past and it definitely is slightly better but I wouldn't say it's a lot better
So many steps forward but that 2 in 1 is a step back. Probably fine for stock but real enthusiasts are gonna yank that out. The last model also came with the dx3
I agree from an enthusiast standpoint but if I had to guess I'd say that probably only represents a few percent of their total demographic. I suspect if the two and one thing was going to be a problem for their general audience they wouldn't have done it.
@DoRC I might have to pick one up and see if I can make it as quick as my 135mph Vorteks 😅. Swb is definitely my favorite of the 3s line
Great Video as always, I love your detailed and honest content ❤❤
About the "reciver" change. Of course you loose your inbuild gyro but almost EVERY single remote has its own gyro system, so thats not a big loos...
Second thing I wanna ask, because I only have experience with the Arrma 6s lineup... why are this small trucks running planetary gears in their differentials and not typical spider gears?
I'm not sure why they choose to run the different style of internal gears. Functionally it does the same thing. Given the increase in tooth engagement this actually might be a stronger design but if that's the case then why don't they do it on the larger ones too? Not sure.
@@DoRChey, good question. How is your experience with the 4s V2.5 Modells? Do the diffs hold up?
Do you think that both ESC's are really equal or that it's that both are capable of applying all that motor can handle or that the battery can supply? I'd be curious if the results changed with a bigger motor and or bigger/ better battery. Those 20 amps gotta matter eventually. Also wonder if the results would be different with both turning the bigger tires?
It's hard to know for sure. Given the traction limitations even at 80 amps they feel about the same but it is possible if you were pushing them both to their absolute limit and had enough traction etc to do so that you would see better performance out of the 100 amp. For the most part though bashing around in sand grass etc I just don't think you're going to notice a difference
Between the Maverick XT and this I'm not sure which one I'd have. Good thing I already have a Legendary Thunder for now
I'd say it just depends on your budget. If you can afford to get this I would go with this. If you can't the new Maverick v2s are good
Performance basically the same as the old system. I use to bash 2-in-1 systems but that's because they were all brushed. Now that they're coming up with brushless versions that can easily handle 2-3s, I really don't mind it. 3s on a 1/10 rig is the most I'm ever looking to do anyways. I could see this type of setup becoming the norm in RTRs going forward.
Yeah they are pretty close to identical and performance though I do think the new system has a little bit extra pep
Great video as always! Since both now has center diffs which do you think is the most durable car between the new Arrma line and the mt10? And which is easier to work on? :)
I think the Arrma in general is easier to work on. Durability is tough. I have a lot more experience with the Arrmas then the MT-10 though they both have reasonably good reputations. I'd probably go with the Arrma Just For parts and upgrade availability
Your reviews are great. Did I hear some gear grinding?
No. I'm guessing what you heard was the tires touching the body. In some of the earlier shots I had a wire outside of the chassis which was pushing the body out causing the tire to make contact and then later with the bigger tires they were rubbing all over the place.
@@DoRC I'm glad you made this video. I'm definitely going to try that 4s center power module in an older big rock
nice video can do a shop tour plz
Yeah I might include that in a future video!
The motor wires, bullets and screws look very very similar to a cheap queens hobby 3660 I had in a wltoys.
Yeah I think the bullets might be a lower end style than the previous version. I didn't have any issues with them but it's definitely something to keep an eye on
Great review, love my Vorteks and happy to see they're improving on an already great vehicle (imo). Btw I think the Vorteks came with the Firma 100A ESC, not the BLX100. Also had a SR6200A receiver/DX3 with AVC... this ESC/receiver seems like a downgrade compared to previous gen (both feature- and flexibility-wise)...
Think there's a way to get those new bodies on the older cars?
Thanks for the review!
Yes it does come with the firma 100 but that's very similar to the ESC I used in it. The firma 100 has a 7.4 volt BEC but it's basically the same power and feels almost identical to the BLX 100.
I believe the chassis is the same length in the shock towers are the same so assuming that's the case you can just buy the new mounts and body. I would recommend verifying that with the exploded view diagrams first though
@@DoRC Ah oh thanks for the clarification! You mentioned that the BLX100s had that "hesitation off the line" which I had never noticed with the Firma 100A but then again I'm not the most observant when it comes to those things! New ESC looks solid, how does DSC feel compared to "full fat" AVC? And what does that 'set' button do?
Btw couple weeks ago I broke a shock on my Vorteks in the same exact way as you did... was kinda shocked (no pun intended) what's up with that!
@mcarignan The firma 100 was better but still had a little bit of it. I think all of the three and 4S first generation based hobbywing ESCs had the same problem. It wasn't so much a full-on hesitation it was just a ramp up of acceleration that other ESCs don't have. Without comparing it back to back with something that doesn't do that it's hard to tell but yes ESCs like the ones from Castle and to a little bit lesser degree these new ones will just explode off the line and it feels better
@@DoRC Ah, gotcha! Now you've got me excited to try one of these next-gen vehicles! Thanks again for the review and explanations, really appreciate it! 👍
I do have a full servo saver upgrade in my 4s kraton
Which did you use?
I've been wanting a buggy for a while, I'm waiting for the new Typhon. Of course, it's probably going to be the last updated one.
Nope it's updated now! Available for pre-order :-)
@ whaaaaat?!?? I couldn’t find it lol
@Ayrton_Groesbeck It was just released this morning.
Loved the last generation vortek, prob will get this one down the line, simply too many new rc coming out this year
For sure. They definitely have a lot of releases this year
I broke the same style arrma shock in a very similar way a couple weekends ago after unintentionally hitting a jump ramp at around 60 mph (also RIP chassis and front shock tower).
What was that grinding noise near the end of the video while on 4s? It sounded like a session ender but since it wasn't mentioned I'm assuming all is well
It's just the oversized tires rubbing on the body.
You think that all in 1 esc would fit in the Grom series Mojave?
Maybe. It's pretty big for the Groms but the Mojave does have a decent amount of room under the body.
I'm curious if and when the new Granite (my favorit Basher) will be arrive?...
My guess: in 6 days ...
Not sure.
Will the centre diff fit in the older models? Also wondering if the body mounts can be switched to make an old vorteks have a clippers body system
Yes it will. I have a video showing the installation. You may need to do a little bit of thinning out of the chassis right where the spur gear goes to make it easy to install and remove but it does work.
I'm not sure about the body mounts. Check the exploded view diagram and see if the shock towers are the same between the two models if they are I suspect it will work fine
One step forward with the center diff, two steps back with the 2-in-1 ESC/receiver. Shame you can't buy the center diff and just drop it into older V3 platforms, the chassis looks different as well.
You definitely can. I have a video about doing it. You may need to do a slight bit of shaving on the inside of the chassis in order to make it easy to remove and install but it's a direct drop in other than that
Chassis is now stronger! And old Vorteks with the Center Diff and Arrma Boost Diff (2 Metall Diffs) should be awesome. Maybe Arrma Boost Wide also;)
All we need is a Vendetta and Infraction 223!
We dont. They are already great. We need cheap tyres for them though😂
I would imagine the entire line will be updated
Pretty sick looking car the body and upgrades all really cool the 2 in one esc don't really like especially if u can't program it like up the punch and stuff like that ....
As far as I can tell it's not programmable.
I wish they would still just make their own seperate brushless electronics.
I suspect this is done to save money which is nice to keep the cost down and most people probably never touch the electronics though of course I've enthusiasts do.
@ yea I get that but it be nice to see them come out with the own stuff.
Definitely R.I.P. Rustler
I'm sure plenty of people will still buy the rustler but this definitely offers better value for money.
Newb question, but why is the spur gear exposed on the bottom?? Wouldn’t that pollute the diff with grime on every run?
It's so that if debris gets in there it doesn't get jammed between the spur and the chassis. It's a really common thing on flat chassis cars. Not everybody does it but it actually doesn't cause any problems at least in my experience.
@ I’m still very confused 😂Why not just keep the whole thing sealed? But I appreciate your reply!
@gothbricks2000 because those areas are never truly sealed and on most cars they're not sealed at all. In this specific case it is pretty well sealed so I'm not certain why Arrma decided to go with the hole.
@@DoRC Gotcha. Cheers.
i did bend the motor mount in my outcast v2.5 but what is the max size for batterys? in this car
you can make a losi lmt servo saver fit in these cars
I don't know the exact maximum battery tray size. You can probably look it up but the battery that I had in there in the video was pretty much filling the entire tray
@DoRC thats about 137mm so about 140mm id say but the wires do need to come out of the top
so yea normal size hardcase online it says 160mm i believe idk how to make that fit
Will the clipless system be put on the older blx 3s one u think
I suspect it will. Check the part numbers for the towers and chassis and make sure that the same between the two versions. If they are then yeah it should be fine
Kimbrough servo saver is pretty good I use that in my Kraton 4s stronger steering
Yeah I've tried it and found it was kind of comparable to the original when the original is new. I fed other people say the LMT servo saver with a spacer for the servo is the way to go. That sounds like a great option.
@@DoRC If you use Kimbrough saver, you want the Kimbrough #124 HD saver. This is intended for large gas cars, it has a pretty strong spring in it. I use the #124 HD in my 3s & 4s Arrma's, you just need to trim off the corners on the saver arm for clearance in Arrma's.
@@gillian9178 I’m not sure of the exact kimbro saver but I do know it made a huge difference in the steering in my kraton 4 even in high grass
I'm a relative newbie to the hobby, I'm in the market for a sturdy basher. Atm I have a couple of Tamiya kits which are obviously not built for proper bashing.
This looks good, but I'm also drawn to the Rlaarlo Omni Terminator.
Which would you recommend of those two?
As a newbie I'd recommend this one. You'll have easier access to spares, it's a bit easier to work on and overall I think it's a more user-friendly platform
Thanks!