Wow, as I've mentioned in several videos, you are one of the best RC reviewers. I love it when you detail and disassemble the entire RC so that your followers can see everything that the RC offers. Thank you very much. Keep it up, you're doing well.
I love how deep you dive into every car you make a video on. I don't think anyone else does this the way you do and give such a comprehensive view on what it's like to work on these cars. I think Arrma is really doing an amazing job with all the updates on their cars and they seem like really good cars at the price they're being sold. I'm also slightly surprised to see all the minor updates and improvements Arrma keeps making to their cars while not raising prices. This is really awesome to see unlike another brand I do like but won't mention that starts with a T. I consider myself an enthusiast like you, so I don't like seeing the two in one esc/receivers but they seem decent and are fine for the average RC hobbyist.
i love how in depth you get with the breakdowns of the cars you test so much info that most youtubers dont take the time to show keep up the great content man this is a pretty cool truck id love to have one.
When a new RC is introduced, there are many RC-related UA-cam channels that launch a review of this RC. But often these are superficial reports with a summary of the specifications and a test drive. And sometimes mainly just talking about what a supplier wants to hear (advertising talk). That is why I find it very special to see on this UA-cam channel how an RC is taken apart and we as viewers hear a very extensive and informative report. Compliments for the great deal of work and effort to make such a review. 🆒🎦👌👍👍👍
I watch alot of rc UA-camrs but by far now you are the best channel yet from information wise to quality, and sound wise too. Not to mentioned love that you go and beyond the stock limits. No channels do that. It really tells us how the rc is capable of. So thx. You got yourself a sub approval!!!👍🏽👏
Great deep dive on the v4 trucks!! For the servo saver situation, you can retrofit a losi lmt servo saver by raising your servo up a bit. I put the vitavon losi lmt servo saver on my kraton 4s v2.5 and shimmed the servo up. Garage Life RC sells a rising kit for the arrma 3 and 4s or the whole kit with the stock lmt servo saver as well. Makes the steering feel way more precise and responsive. Stock steering is way too sloppy lol now the truck turns great👌
ALWAYS the best breakdown of the truck!! I thought it was great, then you WOKE IT UP on 4S!!!! Yikes!!! Great bash!!!! mines on preorder!!!! Chassis brace coming soon!!!
as always wonderful content to your videos. i been in the hospital for over a month. im trying to catch up on the ones i missed. always great info every rc enthusiast should watch before buying a rig. thanks again. Have Fun
Gotta applaud the center diff and metal pivot balls. I stopped funneling money into my Granite because i was tired of the slipper clutch. Yes, I'm that much of a snob. Quiet, peasant, while i eat my escargot and eel pie. Seriously, i hated that slipper. It mocked me. Now with a center diff i have "tuna-bility"
Now that I have mine, I can share the information lol horizon is clearances out quite a few of their old motors, and from what I understand, the new motors are actually produced from spectrum as well as the two in one ESC receivers
Hot racing axial ryft 1/10 servo saver plus a 11mm spacer to go under to servo, along with longer screws. I designed and 3d printed a spacer. This was on my outcast and now it actually turns under power. No more slowing down just to turn.
I see this channel often in my feed but typically skip past it and I’m not sure why, it could be the thumbnail, the channel name or something having to do with presentation. But every once in a while when I do click on a video I’m immediately immersed in the detail of the review. This is not meant to be negative, if anything maybe it could be taken as some sort of vague constructive criticism. I truly think there’s potential for way more viewership somewhere here. Either way, this was much more informative than any other channel I know of. I’ll just subscribe at this point!
Upgrade for servosaver is a 6 mm spacer (i 3d printed mine) to raise the servo itself and have a Losi LMT (LOS241037) adjustable servo saver instead. works perfect, and eliminates the bad stock one completly
I suspect we will see them at least fairly soon though I figured we'd get the 6s trucks not long after the EXP V2 came out and that didn't happen so I guess we'll just have to say
@@DoRC They did kinda refresh all the 6s line. They started putting the new esc, motor, and servo in all the 6s vehicles after the Kraton EXB came out. I am hoping a more comprehensive update of the 6s rigs is coming soon. They are my favorite line of trucks and there is a couple of them I don't have yet.
I was thinking of getting a Omni Terminator for Black Friday but I’m kind of falling in love with the 2 wheel drive brushless fury’s. They just look so fun to drive. P.S. you are definitely the MVP of RC UA-cam 2024!
Yeah I've used that one before and it definitely is better than stock but I've had some issues with the plastic inserts and it does tend to loosen up over time.
Love your videos brother. I manage a hobby shop here in Las Vegas and i get alot of my info about the new rigs from your videos that i pass on to my customers....love how you deep dive into them..keep up the great videos
Worth mentioning that the center differential's main purpose for existing is to work with the front and rear differentials to allow all 4 wheels to turn at different speeds when cornering, reducing loads on the drive train and improving cornering traction. The protection to the driveline is a nice bonus, but that is not really any different to the protection offered by a centre slipper clutch
That may be true for racers but for bashing that sort of fine tuning really isn't the purpose. The main purpose of a center diff is decoupling the front and rear essentially as a safety measure. A center differential and a slipper actually perform two totally different functions. The slipper decouples the entire drivetrain from the motor and the center differential decouples the front of the drivetrain from the rear of the drivetrain.
@@DoRCsorry, I was meaning more in general about center diffs, so people were aware of their original purpose in road cars. Absolutely fair that for bashing they provide protection first, and in a better way than a slipper clutch. I was always disappointed so many companies didn't run center diffs, great to see them make their way down to smaller vehicles.
@blackout19 ah gotcha. Yeah they definitely serve a different purpose with these bashers. I like to see them in just about everything as it really helps protect the drivetrain.
Yes! Glad you're tearing this open. Any chance you could do a video for suggested ESCs for people that want to ditch the 2-in-1? I'm especially interested in straight drop in ESCs for these and Groms.
I have several different videos on brushless Grom upgrades. As far as this is concerned it just depends on what your goals are. If you are just looking to use a different transmitter the BLX 100 firma 100 firma 120 ESCs would be the easiest option. If you want something with some more spice the new Cobra 10 is a beast!
Spektrum firma 150a v2 (black) I throw that esc from Jenny's at everything I drive😅 Really nice for running 3s 1/10 on 4s batteries with an 18t pinion.
Love the review on this one! Definitely the most comprehensive I have seen 👍 Changing that plastic input gear to steel is key to durability on the 3s trucks. I have worn out multiple input gears and have almost no wear on the spur gear. The center diff is such a good upgrade too! I hate keeping that slipper clutch set right.
Another chassis brace option is to make your own. I made a couple out of some carbon fiber sheets. I order a 50x3x400mm sheet and cut it to length and drill and counter sink the screws. You will need longer screws here too but this has stoped the rear section from snapping off.
To some degree Yes. You can add preload clips to raise the ride height but it's limited. Ground clearance is primarily determined by the size of your tires so you could go with bigger tires too.
@@madness6915 Yeah the granite will have a little bit better ground clearance but again that's only because of the tires. It has the exact same chassis.
I am such a fan boy of Arrma and I love your reviews thanks for another awesome detailed overview I hope you grow your channel cause you do a great job on here
Yes it will. I have a video showing the installation. You may need to do a little bit of thinning out of the chassis right where the spur gear goes to make it easy to install and remove but it does work. I'm not sure about the body mounts. Check the exploded view diagram and see if the shock towers are the same between the two models if they are I suspect it will work fine
Do you think that both ESC's are really equal or that it's that both are capable of applying all that motor can handle or that the battery can supply? I'd be curious if the results changed with a bigger motor and or bigger/ better battery. Those 20 amps gotta matter eventually. Also wonder if the results would be different with both turning the bigger tires?
It's hard to know for sure. Given the traction limitations even at 80 amps they feel about the same but it is possible if you were pushing them both to their absolute limit and had enough traction etc to do so that you would see better performance out of the 100 amp. For the most part though bashing around in sand grass etc I just don't think you're going to notice a difference
I broke the same style arrma shock in a very similar way a couple weekends ago after unintentionally hitting a jump ramp at around 60 mph (also RIP chassis and front shock tower). What was that grinding noise near the end of the video while on 4s? It sounded like a session ender but since it wasn't mentioned I'm assuming all is well
I suspect it will. Check the part numbers for the towers and chassis and make sure that the same between the two versions. If they are then yeah it should be fine
Awesome 👏. If you still need a small torx bit Home Depot has a Husky driver with t4-t9 for like $6 . We all use them for taking apart knives . It’s the best cheapest deal I’ve seen 👍. Good luck
I don't know the exact maximum battery tray size. You can probably look it up but the battery that I had in there in the video was pretty much filling the entire tray
@DoRC thats about 137mm so about 140mm id say but the wires do need to come out of the top so yea normal size hardcase online it says 160mm i believe idk how to make that fit
i believe some/many pivot balls are bigger on the 4s Line. Look if the Plastic Ones have the same number for 3s and 4s. Then the Metal Ones will fit. I am not sure, i doubt it.
Thank you for making this video my biggest concern was that 2 in 1 80 amp esc receiver combo but your performance test put that to rest I’m very interested in the new thphon or the next big rock v4 that eventually will be announced..
Yeah I don't think you'll be disappointed in it. Even at 80 amps you're going to be traction limited anyway so unless the two in one nature itself is a problem I think it'll be fine
Clipless design doesn’t loosen up as it wears in. The dirt and dust make it such a pain. I have two Mojave Groms and they are both the same way with the clipless design. As soon as I run them in some dirt or dust, the clipless sections get stuck and you have to force them loose.
In my experience over time they do tend to loosen up but it can take a little while. This specific design doesn't seem to be as susceptible to getting stuck as some but it is susceptible to it
So many steps forward but that 2 in 1 is a step back. Probably fine for stock but real enthusiasts are gonna yank that out. The last model also came with the dx3
I agree from an enthusiast standpoint but if I had to guess I'd say that probably only represents a few percent of their total demographic. I suspect if the two and one thing was going to be a problem for their general audience they wouldn't have done it.
Center diffs don't get rid of force. It moves force from the back and sends it to the front. This happens because of weight transfer to the rear under acceleration. The rear tires have more traction so the front tires spin up.
They don't get rid of force but they decouple the two ends of the drivetrain. The front and rear can spin at different speeds which means that on things like jump landings and whatnot The entire drivetrain isn't forced to speed up or slow down at the same time. Like you said it also does allow energy to bleed off through the tires that have less traction under acceleration which helps prevent things like the drive shafts getting twisted too hard etc.
Personally not the biggest fan of the new 2 in 1 esc and receiver, but the center diff is a huge upgrade and clipless also makes things easier. No idea if esc is interchangeable, but since there's a receiver box, I assume it is. It's also so stable off road 50miles an hour off road, that's mad
Love your videos by the way, the way you test and review rcs is extremely practical yet abusive to them and able to test them to their limits. Upgrading them after also gives us necessary knowledge and a rough idea of how to strip it down. Keep it up!
I thought I saw someone say in the comments to melt a hole in the servo saver housing and fill it with silicone . It would take a couple days to cure up and stiffen . I think they said take it apart but they don’ t go back together easily is what folks were saying .
Yeah you could do that. I'm not sure how effective it would be long-term or how it would affect the actual saving part of the servo saver but sounds like an intriguing idea.
I'm on the verge of picking up Either the typhon or this one. It seems like a no brainer with all the included upgrades! The weakest part I had on my granite were the diffs and plastic ball ends. Changed those diffs out for the 4s ones and the car was perfect. 2-1 esc isn't really a big deal at all if the performance is just as good as its predecessor if not better.
So stoked for these v4 trucks! Are they doing the granite and big rock too? Hopefully the new big rock has more than one color. Great review as always 🤘👍
Regarding drivetrain durability: a proper set up slipper usually should save the drive train from damage when landing. But The improved handling definitely is positive point for a center diff. The best solution would be to have a center diff with a slipper clutch. Unfortunately it's really rare that manufacturers do this. Hpi offered this as a upgrade for the savage AFAIR, but right now HNR is the only company that offers this as standard in their 6s basher called x-mars. The x-mars is an excellent vehicle and you should try it out if you have the chance!
They don't really serve the same purpose. The slipper clutch decouples the motor from the rest of the drivetrain but the center differential decouples the front and rear of the drivetrain. A slipper clutch isn't going to do anything to help protect drivetrain components when one end of the drivetrain needs to suddenly stop or start while the other end is in the air etc. The slipper clutch is better than nothing but it really doesn't do much to protect most of the drivetrain.
I'm a relative newbie to the hobby, I'm in the market for a sturdy basher. Atm I have a couple of Tamiya kits which are obviously not built for proper bashing. This looks good, but I'm also drawn to the Rlaarlo Omni Terminator. Which would you recommend of those two?
As a newbie I'd recommend this one. You'll have easier access to spares, it's a bit easier to work on and overall I think it's a more user-friendly platform
Great Video as always, I love your detailed and honest content ❤❤ About the "reciver" change. Of course you loose your inbuild gyro but almost EVERY single remote has its own gyro system, so thats not a big loos... Second thing I wanna ask, because I only have experience with the Arrma 6s lineup... why are this small trucks running planetary gears in their differentials and not typical spider gears?
I'm not sure why they choose to run the different style of internal gears. Functionally it does the same thing. Given the increase in tooth engagement this actually might be a stronger design but if that's the case then why don't they do it on the larger ones too? Not sure.
Pretty sick looking car the body and upgrades all really cool the 2 in one esc don't really like especially if u can't program it like up the punch and stuff like that ....
My Typhon 3S's plastic input gears were definitely a weak point. It's nice to see they're changing them to steel. Also, is it possible to put the new center differential in the V3 cars or is the chassis too different?
It's possible I have a video on it :-) You may need to dish out the area where the spur gear goes in order for it to fit easily but it definitely fits.
Performance basically the same as the old system. I use to bash 2-in-1 systems but that's because they were all brushed. Now that they're coming up with brushless versions that can easily handle 2-3s, I really don't mind it. 3s on a 1/10 rig is the most I'm ever looking to do anyways. I could see this type of setup becoming the norm in RTRs going forward.
One step forward with the center diff, two steps back with the 2-in-1 ESC/receiver. Shame you can't buy the center diff and just drop it into older V3 platforms, the chassis looks different as well.
You definitely can. I have a video about doing it. You may need to do a slight bit of shaving on the inside of the chassis in order to make it easy to remove and install but it's a direct drop in other than that
Possible to put a 8BL150 esc and 4074 motor combo in this car or the new Typhon 3S to make it 4S? I have a feeling drive train might be able to take it and I got spare electronics lying around.
I have the hot racing servo saver in my Granite, the one that doesnt have the plastic insert along with a TC Sketer servo. It seems to work fine but im not a steering snob
I tried one of those a while back and it definitely was better than the slopped out stock when I was replacing it with but I don't really think it was much of a improvement over stock. Especially with upgraded servos. Someone else mentioned using an LMT servo saver with servo riser spacers. That seems like the way to go
Yeah at It's original price and with the problems it had to begin with the empty welcome fantastic five but they've had some crazy sales lately and then really improve its value
No. I'm guessing what you heard was the tires touching the body. In some of the earlier shots I had a wire outside of the chassis which was pushing the body out causing the tire to make contact and then later with the bigger tires they were rubbing all over the place.
Great video man, I have an observation though. I have a Gorgon that also has a 2in1 esc-receiver, and it is stated clearly in the manual that you can connect a different receiver, which will override the in-built one. That covers the swapping of the receiver and not the esc, but not the other way around. Now, I havent read the vorteks' manual ofc, but i believe it's a safe bet that the same thing applies here as well. Could you please confirm/debunk that? Again, thanks for the great video!
Unfortunately whereas on the brushed ESC it does appear to have that functionality the 223S ESCs don't. There's nothing in the manual about it and the single available port is labeled fans/aux socket.
Yeah I think the bullets might be a lower end style than the previous version. I didn't have any issues with them but it's definitely something to keep an eye on
I'm not sure. People don't ever really seem to be too excited about the giveaways so I've kind of slacked off on them but I'm sure there will be more in the future.
Great review, love my Vorteks and happy to see they're improving on an already great vehicle (imo). Btw I think the Vorteks came with the Firma 100A ESC, not the BLX100. Also had a SR6200A receiver/DX3 with AVC... this ESC/receiver seems like a downgrade compared to previous gen (both feature- and flexibility-wise)... Think there's a way to get those new bodies on the older cars? Thanks for the review!
Yes it does come with the firma 100 but that's very similar to the ESC I used in it. The firma 100 has a 7.4 volt BEC but it's basically the same power and feels almost identical to the BLX 100. I believe the chassis is the same length in the shock towers are the same so assuming that's the case you can just buy the new mounts and body. I would recommend verifying that with the exploded view diagrams first though
@@DoRC Ah oh thanks for the clarification! You mentioned that the BLX100s had that "hesitation off the line" which I had never noticed with the Firma 100A but then again I'm not the most observant when it comes to those things! New ESC looks solid, how does DSC feel compared to "full fat" AVC? And what does that 'set' button do? Btw couple weeks ago I broke a shock on my Vorteks in the same exact way as you did... was kinda shocked (no pun intended) what's up with that!
@mcarignan The firma 100 was better but still had a little bit of it. I think all of the three and 4S first generation based hobbywing ESCs had the same problem. It wasn't so much a full-on hesitation it was just a ramp up of acceleration that other ESCs don't have. Without comparing it back to back with something that doesn't do that it's hard to tell but yes ESCs like the ones from Castle and to a little bit lesser degree these new ones will just explode off the line and it feels better
@@DoRC Ah, gotcha! Now you've got me excited to try one of these next-gen vehicles! Thanks again for the review and explanations, really appreciate it! 👍
I thought about doing that but the two motors are very similar and I expect them to be nearly identical inside. I would imagine you're not going to notice much if any difference in performance between the two motors
Yeah I've tried it and found it was kind of comparable to the original when the original is new. I fed other people say the LMT servo saver with a spacer for the servo is the way to go. That sounds like a great option.
@@DoRC If you use Kimbrough saver, you want the Kimbrough #124 HD saver. This is intended for large gas cars, it has a pretty strong spring in it. I use the #124 HD in my 3s & 4s Arrma's, you just need to trim off the corners on the saver arm for clearance in Arrma's.
Do you think the dirt guards will fit a Granite? Arrmas idea to make the motor assembly easy to remove is getting more and more complex... Too many screws to remove on the SWB trucks for the person who probably doesnt have power tools.
Between the three I'd probably remove the hyper go first. It's a good car but it still has a very first generation feel to it. It gets a little tougher between the 223S and the MT-10. They both had their advantages and disadvantages and I would just go with whichever one you think would suit your needs. The MT-10 will handle rougher terrain but the 223S will handle better overall.
I suspect this is done to save money which is nice to keep the cost down and most people probably never touch the electronics though of course I've enthusiasts do.
Yeah I think it's a little odd that they don't have the ability to bind to SLT receivers in their latest high-end transmitters but most people probably will never upgrade that stuff anyway so I guess that's what they're counting on.
@@DoRCI agree and if it works well I’m fine with that in bashers . Though I’m sure just like you the amount of rtr controllers I have piled up is a bit insane lol
I just wish it at least had dual protocol so it wouldn’t be necessary to get rid of the esc/receiver, then buy a new esc and receiver just to use a DSMR radio. Or I wish the DX5 could do SLT.
@charlesoclassen5356 Yeah I'm surprised not even their new $600 transmitter can do SLT. The new radio Master MT12 4-in-1 supposedly can do SLT but I've heard mixed reviews about it
@@DoRC the mt is fine if you have ever done cnc programming or g code . All you do is tell it what to do just like programming a cnc machine or writing code . For me it was easy but if you haven’t programmed it would be almost impossible to figure out.
I really like your videos! They are the best worldwide. But something to add please: The old Vorteks came with the Firma100 ESC (6v/7,4V), like the Vendetta/Infraction 3s and the DX3 Radio with Gyro. Thats the reason the Vorteks was the most expensive one. Now he will be the cheapest one, with the new Granite i guess. Why? Because they now all have the same electronics, BUT Vorteks is small and short. Typhon is more expensive, because wide and long. Senton is more expensive, because long (and small) with big body. The old Vorteks had some unique Shocks (they were a bit shorter as the rest of the offroad 3s line had). That could also be gone. And you mentioned about Hobbywing ESCs/BLX100 has some hesitation from the start: Set the Punch to Max! New ESC has ZERO Settings, its a shame. Old ESC had for example different Punch Setting. Stock was 3 (out of 5). Arrma 4s V2 was more agressive with 4(out of 5). And yeah, the Max Speed should always be the same, especially on dry road with not much resistance, because 3s is 3s and the Motor KV is the Same. Max Power/Max Power Bursts on the ESC is only needed in Grass/Uphill/Acceleration i think. And by the Way: There is NO good PlugAndPlay ServoSaver. But for the small 3s cars these stock ones are ok. (on the heavy big wheel 4s line they suck big time!). Losi LMT ServoSaver 25t with a bit of plastic removing on the reciever box should be the best solution one can get. Extra Tipp: Get the 63,5mm hinge Pins like the Arrma 4s v2.5 has, stock is still only 63mm. But i like the chassis improvements. Should now be ok for the "light" 3s line. On the 4s....yeah well, should be "ok". No Bash Bar needed for the 3s line, and no tower brace (but thats history i guess with the new shocktowers/bodymounts.)
Even with the punch set to maximum that hesitation is still there on those ESCs. It's not a crazy amount but it is there. Even the BLX 100 experienced it though the BLX 100 had some advantages such as 7.4 volt BEC which I mentioned in the video. Ultimately other than this being two in one I at least don't think it's worse than the previous generation stuff. The AVC definitely was better but the DSC is perfectly sufficient in my opinion.
@@DoRC I dont feel the hesitation, but it could be, yes. Some hate the SLT3 Transmitter, for me its ok for an RTR Transmitter and better as the Traxxas TQI Transmitter. The BLX100 is not the Firma100. My BLX100 ESCs (Senton/Granite/BigRock/Typhon ESCs) dont have 7,4Volt. Only the Vorteks/Infra/Vendetta Firma100 ESCs have 7,4V BEC i believe.
Wow, as I've mentioned in several videos, you are one of the best RC reviewers. I love it when you detail and disassemble the entire RC so that your followers can see everything that the RC offers. Thank you very much. Keep it up, you're doing well.
Thanks glad you enjoyed!
There is a description for you. Par excellence!
@DoRC is there any chance you can confirm if the fury has the steel pivot balls and also try to fit the vortex adjustable turnbuckles to the fury?
This channel deserves SO many more subscribers! The review is so incredibly detailed.
Thanks Glad you enjoyed!
agreed wishing you all the success.
@babupranav thanks!
I love how deep you dive into every car you make a video on. I don't think anyone else does this the way you do and give such a comprehensive view on what it's like to work on these cars. I think Arrma is really doing an amazing job with all the updates on their cars and they seem like really good cars at the price they're being sold. I'm also slightly surprised to see all the minor updates and improvements Arrma keeps making to their cars while not raising prices. This is really awesome to see unlike another brand I do like but won't mention that starts with a T. I consider myself an enthusiast like you, so I don't like seeing the two in one esc/receivers but they seem decent and are fine for the average RC hobbyist.
I agree. It's really nice to see them not increase their prices.
@@DoRC Speaking of raising prices, the Mini Maxx is posted as $269.95 now instead of $249.95 on the official website.
@FlailinMonkey Yeah I saw that. Pretty crazy for them to raise the price before it's even released.
i love how in depth you get with the breakdowns of the cars you test so much info that most youtubers dont take the time to show keep up the great content man this is a pretty cool truck id love to have one.
As long as you guys keep watching it I'll keep making them :-)
@DoRC sounds like a deal 🤝
When a new RC is introduced, there are many RC-related UA-cam channels that launch a review of this RC. But often these are superficial reports with a summary of the specifications and a test drive. And sometimes mainly just talking about what a supplier wants to hear (advertising talk). That is why I find it very special to see on this UA-cam channel how an RC is taken apart and we as viewers hear a very extensive and informative report. Compliments for the great deal of work and effort to make such a review. 🆒🎦👌👍👍👍
I definitely try to be as objective as possible and want to give you guys all the details so as long as you guys keep watching I'll keep making :-)
I watch alot of rc UA-camrs but by far now you are the best channel yet from information wise to quality, and sound wise too. Not to mentioned love that you go and beyond the stock limits. No channels do that. It really tells us how the rc is capable of. So thx. You got yourself a sub approval!!!👍🏽👏
Great deep dive on the v4 trucks!! For the servo saver situation, you can retrofit a losi lmt servo saver by raising your servo up a bit. I put the vitavon losi lmt servo saver on my kraton 4s v2.5 and shimmed the servo up. Garage Life RC sells a rising kit for the arrma 3 and 4s or the whole kit with the stock lmt servo saver as well. Makes the steering feel way more precise and responsive. Stock steering is way too sloppy lol now the truck turns great👌
Nice! That's the solution I was looking for. I have tried a couple of different aftermarket direct drop-ins and they just didn't work well.
Great video! Love the deep dive showing the nitty gritty of it all! We're excited to get these in and see how they hold up!
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I don't think you'll be disappointed! Thanks for watching :-)
ALWAYS the best breakdown of the truck!! I thought it was great, then you WOKE IT UP on 4S!!!! Yikes!!! Great bash!!!! mines on preorder!!!! Chassis brace coming soon!!!
Sweet!
Great video, as always! Superb, accurate reviews, teardowns, testings and upgrades! 👏🙏👌
Thanks glad you enjoyed!
as always wonderful content to your videos. i been in the hospital for over a month. im trying to catch up on the ones i missed. always great info every rc enthusiast should watch before buying a rig. thanks again. Have Fun
Thanks and I hope you get better soon!
Gotta applaud the center diff and metal pivot balls.
I stopped funneling money into my Granite because i was tired of the slipper clutch.
Yes, I'm that much of a snob.
Quiet, peasant, while i eat my escargot and eel pie.
Seriously, i hated that slipper. It mocked me.
Now with a center diff i have "tuna-bility"
Agreed. The center differential is the main upgrade here
arrma never fails to amaze with their design and durability since my 4X4 Granite
Now that I have mine, I can share the information lol horizon is clearances out quite a few of their old motors, and from what I understand, the new motors are actually produced from spectrum as well as the two in one ESC receivers
Spectrum doesn't make any of the electronics. It's just a brand that they put on stuff that's made by other OEMs.
@@DoRC i see
Hot racing axial ryft 1/10 servo saver plus a 11mm spacer to go under to servo, along with longer screws. I designed and 3d printed a spacer. This was on my outcast and now it actually turns under power. No more slowing down just to turn.
Nice!
This new Vorteks looks very promising! Thanks for sharing your impressions.
You're welcome thanks for watching!
I see this channel often in my feed but typically skip past it and I’m not sure why, it could be the thumbnail, the channel name or something having to do with presentation. But every once in a while when I do click on a video I’m immediately immersed in the detail of the review. This is not meant to be negative, if anything maybe it could be taken as some sort of vague constructive criticism. I truly think there’s potential for way more viewership somewhere here. Either way, this was much more informative than any other channel I know of. I’ll just subscribe at this point!
Thanks for subscribing and I think you'll like most of the videos I make!
Hopefully the Granite gets an update as well.
I think it would be pretty strange if it didn't.
The best for last!!!
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Upgrade for servosaver is a 6 mm spacer (i 3d printed mine) to raise the servo itself and have a Losi LMT (LOS241037) adjustable servo saver instead. works perfect, and eliminates the bad stock one completly
Yeah that seems like the go-to upgrade! Sounds great.
Awesome video! All those updates are fantastic, I hope they update the Big Rock like this. You are my favorite rc reviewer, thank you!
Granite and Big Rock will be updated soon. Everythong else would be a big surprise...
I suspect we will see them at least fairly soon though I figured we'd get the 6s trucks not long after the EXP V2 came out and that didn't happen so I guess we'll just have to say
@@DoRC They did kinda refresh all the 6s line. They started putting the new esc, motor, and servo in all the 6s vehicles after the Kraton EXB came out. I am hoping a more comprehensive update of the 6s rigs is coming soon. They are my favorite line of trucks and there is a couple of them I don't have yet.
The best in-depth preview....Awesome job!
Thanks Glad you enjoyed!
Great videos, I’ll watch them even on cars I have zero interest in buying because I almost always learn a good tip or trick here and there!
Awesome glad you enjoy!
That's awesome you got one of these already way to go kenny
Yeah it's a pretty sweet car! Not perfect but good
I was thinking of getting a Omni Terminator for Black Friday but I’m kind of falling in love with the 2 wheel drive brushless fury’s. They just look so fun to drive.
P.S. you are definitely the MVP of RC UA-cam 2024!
Thinking the same thing, Fury looks fun
They definitely are. 2 wheel drive is a bit more limiting than four wheel drive but it is a lot of fun.
Another brilliant and thorough review!
Thanks :-)
I’m a big fan of this channel and whenever there is a new car out, I will search here
Glad you enjoy! Plenty more coming :-)
Hot Racing has a decent servo saver for these arrma rigs..believe it's a 23T but congress with the little plastic inserts to make it a 25T.
Yeah I've used that one before and it definitely is better than stock but I've had some issues with the plastic inserts and it does tend to loosen up over time.
Love your videos brother. I manage a hobby shop here in Las Vegas and i get alot of my info about the new rigs from your videos that i pass on to my customers....love how you deep dive into them..keep up the great videos
Hot Racing makes one specifically for 1/10 3s arrma with alloy 25t.
Worth mentioning that the center differential's main purpose for existing is to work with the front and rear differentials to allow all 4 wheels to turn at different speeds when cornering, reducing loads on the drive train and improving cornering traction. The protection to the driveline is a nice bonus, but that is not really any different to the protection offered by a centre slipper clutch
That may be true for racers but for bashing that sort of fine tuning really isn't the purpose. The main purpose of a center diff is decoupling the front and rear essentially as a safety measure.
A center differential and a slipper actually perform two totally different functions. The slipper decouples the entire drivetrain from the motor and the center differential decouples the front of the drivetrain from the rear of the drivetrain.
@@DoRCsorry, I was meaning more in general about center diffs, so people were aware of their original purpose in road cars. Absolutely fair that for bashing they provide protection first, and in a better way than a slipper clutch. I was always disappointed so many companies didn't run center diffs, great to see them make their way down to smaller vehicles.
@blackout19 ah gotcha. Yeah they definitely serve a different purpose with these bashers. I like to see them in just about everything as it really helps protect the drivetrain.
Do the new dirt guards prevent the body from becoming a dust bucket? Is it possible to add the new guards and clipless body to the old blx version?
They certainly work better than the previous ones but in my experience nothing will actually stop crap from getting inside.
Yes! Glad you're tearing this open.
Any chance you could do a video for suggested ESCs for people that want to ditch the 2-in-1? I'm especially interested in straight drop in ESCs for these and Groms.
I have several different videos on brushless Grom upgrades. As far as this is concerned it just depends on what your goals are. If you are just looking to use a different transmitter the BLX 100 firma 100 firma 120 ESCs would be the easiest option. If you want something with some more spice the new Cobra 10 is a beast!
@@DoRCappreciate you!
@BeardRubEnjoyer thanks for watching!
Spektrum firma 150a v2 (black)
I throw that esc from Jenny's at everything I drive😅
Really nice for running 3s 1/10 on 4s batteries with an 18t pinion.
Awesome job as always! Look forward to more!
Stay tuned! Plenty more to come :-)
Love the review on this one! Definitely the most comprehensive I have seen 👍 Changing that plastic input gear to steel is key to durability on the 3s trucks. I have worn out multiple input gears and have almost no wear on the spur gear. The center diff is such a good upgrade too! I hate keeping that slipper clutch set right.
Yeah I think they made some really good key upgrades!
Another chassis brace option is to make your own. I made a couple out of some carbon fiber sheets. I order a 50x3x400mm sheet and cut it to length and drill and counter sink the screws. You will need longer screws here too but this has stoped the rear section from snapping off.
Awesome idea. It may not be necessary with this newest chassis as it does have some reinforcement in the rear as well
Does the ground clearance is adjustable? Thank you, Nice video
To some degree Yes. You can add preload clips to raise the ride height but it's limited. Ground clearance is primarily determined by the size of your tires so you could go with bigger tires too.
@@DoRC
Not a great setting i think
I will wait a new Granite 🤞🙏
@@madness6915 Yeah the granite will have a little bit better ground clearance but again that's only because of the tires. It has the exact same chassis.
I am such a fan boy of Arrma and I love your reviews thanks for another awesome detailed overview I hope you grow your channel cause you do a great job on here
Thanks glad you enjoyed!
Will the centre diff fit in the older models? Also wondering if the body mounts can be switched to make an old vorteks have a clippers body system
Yes it will. I have a video showing the installation. You may need to do a little bit of thinning out of the chassis right where the spur gear goes to make it easy to install and remove but it does work.
I'm not sure about the body mounts. Check the exploded view diagram and see if the shock towers are the same between the two models if they are I suspect it will work fine
Do you think that both ESC's are really equal or that it's that both are capable of applying all that motor can handle or that the battery can supply? I'd be curious if the results changed with a bigger motor and or bigger/ better battery. Those 20 amps gotta matter eventually. Also wonder if the results would be different with both turning the bigger tires?
It's hard to know for sure. Given the traction limitations even at 80 amps they feel about the same but it is possible if you were pushing them both to their absolute limit and had enough traction etc to do so that you would see better performance out of the 100 amp. For the most part though bashing around in sand grass etc I just don't think you're going to notice a difference
I broke the same style arrma shock in a very similar way a couple weekends ago after unintentionally hitting a jump ramp at around 60 mph (also RIP chassis and front shock tower).
What was that grinding noise near the end of the video while on 4s? It sounded like a session ender but since it wasn't mentioned I'm assuming all is well
It's just the oversized tires rubbing on the body.
Will the new ESC /receiver bind with a dx5c or a dx6c radio?
Unfortunately no
Great vid, my go, to best info, RC channel!
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching!
Will the clipless system be put on the older blx 3s one u think
I suspect it will. Check the part numbers for the towers and chassis and make sure that the same between the two versions. If they are then yeah it should be fine
Awesome 👏. If you still need a small torx bit Home Depot has a Husky driver with t4-t9 for like $6 . We all use them for taking apart knives . It’s the best cheapest deal I’ve seen 👍. Good luck
Thanks :-) I actually have plenty of torx tools I just couldn't find this particular size for some reason. I went ahead and ordered a replacement.
Damn, its been a minute since I bought an ARRMA or even turned on one of mine, but they have been steadily stepping it up each year!
Yeah and not increasing their prices :-)
Thank you for an awesome overview!
Thanks for watching!
Brother, you're the Project Farm of RC, you sound like him and do Great reviews like him👏👏👍
Thanks man I will definitely take that as a compliment!
i did bend the motor mount in my outcast v2.5 but what is the max size for batterys? in this car
you can make a losi lmt servo saver fit in these cars
I don't know the exact maximum battery tray size. You can probably look it up but the battery that I had in there in the video was pretty much filling the entire tray
@DoRC thats about 137mm so about 140mm id say but the wires do need to come out of the top
so yea normal size hardcase online it says 160mm i believe idk how to make that fit
Will the clipless body mounts and steal pivot balls work on the arrma kraton 4s v2.5
The ball's almost certainly will. The mount I'm not sure as the chassis are different length so that's going to be a problem
i believe some/many pivot balls are bigger on the 4s Line. Look if the Plastic Ones have the same number for 3s and 4s. Then the Metal Ones will fit. I am not sure, i doubt it.
Thank you for making this video my biggest concern was that 2 in 1 80 amp esc receiver combo but your performance test put that to rest I’m very interested in the new thphon or the next big rock v4 that eventually will be announced..
Yeah I don't think you'll be disappointed in it. Even at 80 amps you're going to be traction limited anyway so unless the two in one nature itself is a problem I think it'll be fine
Clipless design doesn’t loosen up as it wears in. The dirt and dust make it such a pain. I have two Mojave Groms and they are both the same way with the clipless design. As soon as I run them in some dirt or dust, the clipless sections get stuck and you have to force them loose.
In my experience over time they do tend to loosen up but it can take a little while. This specific design doesn't seem to be as susceptible to getting stuck as some but it is susceptible to it
So many steps forward but that 2 in 1 is a step back. Probably fine for stock but real enthusiasts are gonna yank that out. The last model also came with the dx3
I agree from an enthusiast standpoint but if I had to guess I'd say that probably only represents a few percent of their total demographic. I suspect if the two and one thing was going to be a problem for their general audience they wouldn't have done it.
@DoRC I might have to pick one up and see if I can make it as quick as my 135mph Vorteks 😅. Swb is definitely my favorite of the 3s line
V4 BIG ROCK!
V4 BIG ROCK!
V4 BIG ROCK!
Idc if it’s 3s or 4s, that was my favorite 1/10 scale
in one week maybe they release Granite and BigRock 223s......
I'm sure it's coming
Now that is an exciting looking little truck. I guess my previous version is going to go on Ebay 😀
You could upgrade your previous generation with a center differential and get most of the benefit but this is pretty cool!
@@DoRC yerhh but nothing beats that new car feeling.
@FullOnRC ain't that the truth! I've been in this hobby for over 20 years now and I still get excited every single time.
@@DoRC It can easily become an addiction IMO. Not the worse kind of addiction but still.
Center diffs don't get rid of force. It moves force from the back and sends it to the front. This happens because of weight transfer to the rear under acceleration. The rear tires have more traction so the front tires spin up.
They don't get rid of force but they decouple the two ends of the drivetrain. The front and rear can spin at different speeds which means that on things like jump landings and whatnot The entire drivetrain isn't forced to speed up or slow down at the same time.
Like you said it also does allow energy to bleed off through the tires that have less traction under acceleration which helps prevent things like the drive shafts getting twisted too hard etc.
@DoRC yes that is correct
Personally not the biggest fan of the new 2 in 1 esc and receiver, but the center diff is a huge upgrade and clipless also makes things easier. No idea if esc is interchangeable, but since there's a receiver box, I assume it is. It's also so stable off road 50miles an hour off road, that's mad
Yes if you watch to the end of the video I directly compare it to the previous generation ESC with installation
Yup I saw
@@tuffy3637 thanks for watching :-)
Love your videos by the way, the way you test and review rcs is extremely practical yet abusive to them and able to test them to their limits. Upgrading them after also gives us necessary knowledge and a rough idea of how to strip it down. Keep it up!
You think that all in 1 esc would fit in the Grom series Mojave?
Maybe. It's pretty big for the Groms but the Mojave does have a decent amount of room under the body.
I thought I saw someone say in the comments to melt a hole in the servo saver housing and fill it with silicone . It would take a couple days to cure up and stiffen . I think they said take it apart but they don’ t go back together easily is what folks were saying .
Yeah you could do that. I'm not sure how effective it would be long-term or how it would affect the actual saving part of the servo saver but sounds like an intriguing idea.
I'm on the verge of picking up Either the typhon or this one. It seems like a no brainer with all the included upgrades! The weakest part I had on my granite were the diffs and plastic ball ends. Changed those diffs out for the 4s ones and the car was perfect. 2-1 esc isn't really a big deal at all if the performance is just as good as its predecessor if not better.
I'd go for this one if you want a little more versatility but the Typhon if you don't mind less ground clearance and prefer better handling
So stoked for these v4 trucks! Are they doing the granite and big rock too? Hopefully the new big rock has more than one color. Great review as always 🤘👍
I don't have any info on that though I would be really surprised if they weren't at some point.
My v1 senton now has the centre differential and loves 4s now and im planning on doing it to my v1 granite as well 😊
Regarding drivetrain durability: a proper set up slipper usually should save the drive train from damage when landing. But The improved handling definitely is positive point for a center diff. The best solution would be to have a center diff with a slipper clutch. Unfortunately it's really rare that manufacturers do this. Hpi offered this as a upgrade for the savage AFAIR, but right now HNR is the only company that offers this as standard in their 6s basher called x-mars.
The x-mars is an excellent vehicle and you should try it out if you have the chance!
They don't really serve the same purpose. The slipper clutch decouples the motor from the rest of the drivetrain but the center differential decouples the front and rear of the drivetrain. A slipper clutch isn't going to do anything to help protect drivetrain components when one end of the drivetrain needs to suddenly stop or start while the other end is in the air etc. The slipper clutch is better than nothing but it really doesn't do much to protect most of the drivetrain.
50mph on grass pretty fast for a 3s truck. Hopefully the center diff helps keep the driveshafts together. A known issue on these trucks. Nice review
I'm pretty confident it will. I beat on it pretty hard 4s which usually at least will twist those stock shafts and they still look perfect.
There is a Kimbrough servo saver that can fit Arrma 3s, but i dont know if its GREAT,or just a similar replacement
I have used that one in the past and it definitely is slightly better but I wouldn't say it's a lot better
Nice! Looks like the center diff fluid could be a little stiffer - would you agree?
Maybe a touch for on road use but I think it's pretty close for general bashing
I'm a relative newbie to the hobby, I'm in the market for a sturdy basher. Atm I have a couple of Tamiya kits which are obviously not built for proper bashing.
This looks good, but I'm also drawn to the Rlaarlo Omni Terminator.
Which would you recommend of those two?
As a newbie I'd recommend this one. You'll have easier access to spares, it's a bit easier to work on and overall I think it's a more user-friendly platform
Great Video as always, I love your detailed and honest content ❤❤
About the "reciver" change. Of course you loose your inbuild gyro but almost EVERY single remote has its own gyro system, so thats not a big loos...
Second thing I wanna ask, because I only have experience with the Arrma 6s lineup... why are this small trucks running planetary gears in their differentials and not typical spider gears?
I'm not sure why they choose to run the different style of internal gears. Functionally it does the same thing. Given the increase in tooth engagement this actually might be a stronger design but if that's the case then why don't they do it on the larger ones too? Not sure.
@@DoRChey, good question. How is your experience with the 4s V2.5 Modells? Do the diffs hold up?
Which 17mm adaptors are those again?
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Pretty sick looking car the body and upgrades all really cool the 2 in one esc don't really like especially if u can't program it like up the punch and stuff like that ....
As far as I can tell it's not programmable.
Awesome review
Thanks glad you enjoyed!
My Typhon 3S's plastic input gears were definitely a weak point. It's nice to see they're changing them to steel.
Also, is it possible to put the new center differential in the V3 cars or is the chassis too different?
It's possible I have a video on it :-) You may need to dish out the area where the spur gear goes in order for it to fit easily but it definitely fits.
@@DoRC So the module is the same as the 4S cars?
@@kilaueaproductions4210 pretty much or completly yes.
Performance basically the same as the old system. I use to bash 2-in-1 systems but that's because they were all brushed. Now that they're coming up with brushless versions that can easily handle 2-3s, I really don't mind it. 3s on a 1/10 rig is the most I'm ever looking to do anyways. I could see this type of setup becoming the norm in RTRs going forward.
Yeah they are pretty close to identical and performance though I do think the new system has a little bit extra pep
Arrma hitting one home run after another right now
This is definitely a lot for the money!
One step forward with the center diff, two steps back with the 2-in-1 ESC/receiver. Shame you can't buy the center diff and just drop it into older V3 platforms, the chassis looks different as well.
You definitely can. I have a video about doing it. You may need to do a slight bit of shaving on the inside of the chassis in order to make it easy to remove and install but it's a direct drop in other than that
Chassis is now stronger! And old Vorteks with the Center Diff and Arrma Boost Diff (2 Metall Diffs) should be awesome. Maybe Arrma Boost Wide also;)
Possible to put a 8BL150 esc and 4074 motor combo in this car or the new Typhon 3S to make it 4S? I have a feeling drive train might be able to take it and I got spare electronics lying around.
I have the hot racing servo saver in my Granite, the one that doesnt have the plastic insert along with a TC Sketer servo. It seems to work fine but im not a steering snob
I've never tried the one without the plastic insert so maybe I'll have to give that a shot.
Maybe it's not a "great" upgrade but i used a Kimbrough servo saver on my Granite.
I tried one of those a while back and it definitely was better than the slopped out stock when I was replacing it with but I don't really think it was much of a improvement over stock. Especially with upgraded servos. Someone else mentioned using an LMT servo saver with servo riser spacers. That seems like the way to go
Another great video Kenny. I’m still leaning towards the Kagama 4 for my next truck. I did just get the MT8 based on your videos and for only $317!!
Yeah at It's original price and with the problems it had to begin with the empty welcome fantastic five but they've had some crazy sales lately and then really improve its value
@@DoRC couldn’t beat the price. Now time to buy the Kagama4s
@@DoRC will you do an overlook of the Kagama 4S soon? Looking to get back into RC after a couple years and think it would be the ticket
@TastyGnocchi as soon as it gets here! It shipped out yesterday and I'm hoping it'll be here Saturday or maybe Monday. Trust me I can't wait!
Definitely R.I.P. Rustler
I'm sure plenty of people will still buy the rustler but this definitely offers better value for money.
Your reviews are great. Did I hear some gear grinding?
No. I'm guessing what you heard was the tires touching the body. In some of the earlier shots I had a wire outside of the chassis which was pushing the body out causing the tire to make contact and then later with the bigger tires they were rubbing all over the place.
@@DoRC I'm glad you made this video. I'm definitely going to try that 4s center power module in an older big rock
Can you fit those links in the old model?
I think so. I believe the only thing they changed is the ball ends.
Great video man, I have an observation though. I have a Gorgon that also has a 2in1 esc-receiver, and it is stated clearly in the manual that you can connect a different receiver, which will override the in-built one. That covers the swapping of the receiver and not the esc, but not the other way around. Now, I havent read the vorteks' manual ofc, but i believe it's a safe bet that the same thing applies here as well. Could you please confirm/debunk that?
Again, thanks for the great video!
Unfortunately whereas on the brushed ESC it does appear to have that functionality the 223S ESCs don't. There's nothing in the manual about it and the single available port is labeled fans/aux socket.
The motor wires, bullets and screws look very very similar to a cheap queens hobby 3660 I had in a wltoys.
Yeah I think the bullets might be a lower end style than the previous version. I didn't have any issues with them but it's definitely something to keep an eye on
All we need is a Vendetta and Infraction 223!
We dont. They are already great. We need cheap tyres for them though😂
I would imagine the entire line will be updated
Looks like a nice budget basher... 🤟 When's the next giveaway?? Thanks Great Informative Videos!!
I'm not sure. People don't ever really seem to be too excited about the giveaways so I've kind of slacked off on them but I'm sure there will be more in the future.
@DoRC heck yeah I'd like to try to win another one from you I won the Suzuki Jimny from you.!! 🤟
I'm curious if and when the new Granite (my favorit Basher) will be arrive?...
My guess: in 6 days ...
Not sure.
It a nice truck, he fast and jump super well. The senton 3s V4 seem to have better shock.
Maybe though that might have just been down to the body parachuting giving some extra cushioning.
Those new metal pinions are a LOT bigger than the old CNC ones. Those would only have 50% tooth engagement with the plastic ring gears
For sure. The old pinions were designed to be used with the metal ring gears which had a shorter profile.
They are not new, over 2 years old, but yeah they are the same Modul 1.35 as the Plastic. Not the 0.8Modul as the old old Metal Ones had.
@ both were 1.35, the old ones just had a shorter profile.
@@dylanwhite6539maybe you right. Old one is: CNC Metal Input Gear 13T: BLX 3S
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I have a hot racing one on my granite seems pretty good
I've tried the hot racing one and it does seem to work decently though It seems to loosen up over time
Loved the last generation vortek, prob will get this one down the line, simply too many new rc coming out this year
For sure. They definitely have a lot of releases this year
Great review, love my Vorteks and happy to see they're improving on an already great vehicle (imo). Btw I think the Vorteks came with the Firma 100A ESC, not the BLX100. Also had a SR6200A receiver/DX3 with AVC... this ESC/receiver seems like a downgrade compared to previous gen (both feature- and flexibility-wise)...
Think there's a way to get those new bodies on the older cars?
Thanks for the review!
Yes it does come with the firma 100 but that's very similar to the ESC I used in it. The firma 100 has a 7.4 volt BEC but it's basically the same power and feels almost identical to the BLX 100.
I believe the chassis is the same length in the shock towers are the same so assuming that's the case you can just buy the new mounts and body. I would recommend verifying that with the exploded view diagrams first though
@@DoRC Ah oh thanks for the clarification! You mentioned that the BLX100s had that "hesitation off the line" which I had never noticed with the Firma 100A but then again I'm not the most observant when it comes to those things! New ESC looks solid, how does DSC feel compared to "full fat" AVC? And what does that 'set' button do?
Btw couple weeks ago I broke a shock on my Vorteks in the same exact way as you did... was kinda shocked (no pun intended) what's up with that!
@mcarignan The firma 100 was better but still had a little bit of it. I think all of the three and 4S first generation based hobbywing ESCs had the same problem. It wasn't so much a full-on hesitation it was just a ramp up of acceleration that other ESCs don't have. Without comparing it back to back with something that doesn't do that it's hard to tell but yes ESCs like the ones from Castle and to a little bit lesser degree these new ones will just explode off the line and it feels better
@@DoRC Ah, gotcha! Now you've got me excited to try one of these next-gen vehicles! Thanks again for the review and explanations, really appreciate it! 👍
Put the old 3s motor in too to really compare the old model vs new performance wise.
I thought about doing that but the two motors are very similar and I expect them to be nearly identical inside. I would imagine you're not going to notice much if any difference in performance between the two motors
Kimbrough servo saver is pretty good I use that in my Kraton 4s stronger steering
Yeah I've tried it and found it was kind of comparable to the original when the original is new. I fed other people say the LMT servo saver with a spacer for the servo is the way to go. That sounds like a great option.
@@DoRC If you use Kimbrough saver, you want the Kimbrough #124 HD saver. This is intended for large gas cars, it has a pretty strong spring in it. I use the #124 HD in my 3s & 4s Arrma's, you just need to trim off the corners on the saver arm for clearance in Arrma's.
@@gillian9178 I’m not sure of the exact kimbro saver but I do know it made a huge difference in the steering in my kraton 4 even in high grass
Do you think the dirt guards will fit a Granite? Arrmas idea to make the motor assembly easy to remove is getting more and more complex... Too many screws to remove on the SWB trucks for the person who probably doesnt have power tools.
New Granite will be released soon. Look then for dirt guards...
@@runnerbaba Chassis might be different though
I suspect they will fit. It's the same wheelbase chassis.
nice video can do a shop tour plz
Yeah I might include that in a future video!
I've been wanting a buggy for a while, I'm waiting for the new Typhon. Of course, it's probably going to be the last updated one.
Nope it's updated now! Available for pre-order :-)
@ whaaaaat?!?? I couldn’t find it lol
@Ayrton_Groesbeck It was just released this morning.
I'm so torn between the V4 Arrma Vorteks 223S BLX, the MJX Hyper Go 10208 V2, and the Team Associated RIVAL MT10 V2 . . . thoughts anyone?
Between the three I'd probably remove the hyper go first. It's a good car but it still has a very first generation feel to it. It gets a little tougher between the 223S and the MT-10. They both had their advantages and disadvantages and I would just go with whichever one you think would suit your needs. The MT-10 will handle rougher terrain but the 223S will handle better overall.
@@DoRC Thanks, I appreciate the input!
@TallTimbersUSA You're welcome thanks for watching and commenting :-)
I wish they would still just make their own seperate brushless electronics.
I suspect this is done to save money which is nice to keep the cost down and most people probably never touch the electronics though of course I've enthusiasts do.
@ yea I get that but it be nice to see them come out with the own stuff.
I barely use the cars I have but.
Mini Maxx or one of the 223s :)
I can't wait to get my mini max!
If you could bind to mt12 or high end spectrum tx I’d be ok with 2 in 1 in bashers and small rcs . . The grom 2 in 1 works well and losi micro b .
Yeah I think it's a little odd that they don't have the ability to bind to SLT receivers in their latest high-end transmitters but most people probably will never upgrade that stuff anyway so I guess that's what they're counting on.
@@DoRCI agree and if it works well I’m fine with that in bashers . Though I’m sure just like you the amount of rtr controllers I have piled up is a bit insane lol
I just wish it at least had dual protocol so it wouldn’t be necessary to get rid of the esc/receiver, then buy a new esc and receiver just to use a DSMR radio. Or I wish the DX5 could do SLT.
@charlesoclassen5356 Yeah I'm surprised not even their new $600 transmitter can do SLT. The new radio Master MT12 4-in-1 supposedly can do SLT but I've heard mixed reviews about it
@@DoRC the mt is fine if you have ever done cnc programming or g code . All you do is tell it what to do just like programming a cnc machine or writing code . For me it was easy but if you haven’t programmed it would be almost impossible to figure out.
I really like your videos! They are the best worldwide. But something to add please: The old Vorteks came with the Firma100 ESC (6v/7,4V), like the Vendetta/Infraction 3s and the DX3 Radio with Gyro. Thats the reason the Vorteks was the most expensive one. Now he will be the cheapest one, with the new Granite i guess. Why? Because they now all have the same electronics, BUT Vorteks is small and short. Typhon is more expensive, because wide and long. Senton is more expensive, because long (and small) with big body. The old Vorteks had some unique Shocks (they were a bit shorter as the rest of the offroad 3s line had). That could also be gone. And you mentioned about Hobbywing ESCs/BLX100 has some hesitation from the start: Set the Punch to Max! New ESC has ZERO Settings, its a shame. Old ESC had for example different Punch Setting. Stock was 3 (out of 5). Arrma 4s V2 was more agressive with 4(out of 5). And yeah, the Max Speed should always be the same, especially on dry road with not much resistance, because 3s is 3s and the Motor KV is the Same. Max Power/Max Power Bursts on the ESC is only needed in Grass/Uphill/Acceleration i think. And by the Way: There is NO good PlugAndPlay ServoSaver. But for the small 3s cars these stock ones are ok. (on the heavy big wheel 4s line they suck big time!). Losi LMT ServoSaver 25t with a bit of plastic removing on the reciever box should be the best solution one can get. Extra Tipp: Get the 63,5mm hinge Pins like the Arrma 4s v2.5 has, stock is still only 63mm. But i like the chassis improvements. Should now be ok for the "light" 3s line. On the 4s....yeah well, should be "ok". No Bash Bar needed for the 3s line, and no tower brace (but thats history i guess with the new shocktowers/bodymounts.)
Even with the punch set to maximum that hesitation is still there on those ESCs. It's not a crazy amount but it is there. Even the BLX 100 experienced it though the BLX 100 had some advantages such as 7.4 volt BEC which I mentioned in the video. Ultimately other than this being two in one I at least don't think it's worse than the previous generation stuff. The AVC definitely was better but the DSC is perfectly sufficient in my opinion.
@@DoRC I dont feel the hesitation, but it could be, yes. Some hate the SLT3 Transmitter, for me its ok for an RTR Transmitter and better as the Traxxas TQI Transmitter. The BLX100 is not the Firma100. My BLX100 ESCs (Senton/Granite/BigRock/Typhon ESCs) dont have 7,4Volt. Only the Vorteks/Infra/Vendetta Firma100 ESCs have 7,4V BEC i believe.
the gpm servo saver is much much better than the stock one especially on the v2.5 kraton
On the heavy big wheel Arrma 4s it is needed. The small 3s cars are pretty ok.
I'll check it out!
@@DoRC can i send a link to my dads channel with the results of the saver paired with high power servo
@ ua-cam.com/video/TF5AfXrOpZA/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Sure!
Pretty sure you don't need a special tool to open the shocks. You compress them and twist
The Vortex is just Fugly. Rustler is still on top for this class.
Yeah that's just a personal opinion though. I honestly think they both look great though my personal taste would probably go to the rustler as well