Can I put a REAL V8 ENGINE into a TOY CAR?
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- Опубліковано 24 гру 2023
- Here we have a working Supercharged Model V8 Engine and we want to fit it into an RC Car and turn it into a V8 Burnout car!! But 1st we need to get the engine running.
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What about the crawler that should have had the real engine too?
Can you give me a link for the nitro system :)
Looks like it might be a good candidate for a Losi MT TLR rolling chassis…?
Never would have thought that those little engines are $2100. Mind blowing.
You Shouf put it in the infra Timon of the felony
Should
Yea at that point just buy a full size engine to build lol
Hard to make, so you're basically paying for labor and fabrication
Bro you can buy an actual full size engine for that much
As a grown man child, I seriously would’ve gotten one of theses years ago for my work bench but the 143,345,583 videos showing how hard they are to start really doesnt make it worth the mail mans time.
Agreed seems like a cool project but not worth the pain
Just saw the price! I'll take basically anything 5th scale instead please
Only like 4 people who have those engines working.
It’s a total novelty, I would never pay good money for one, and I would never expect it to last.
No, These ones run great, I have one , the rotarys are pain... They wont Run well ore even start. In the Manuel stands how to tune them. The screw for the fuel mixture has to Go all the way in, one and a half Turn Back and it will start, than you can adjusg the idlespeed. After that you Rev the engine, if it revs Up slowly only, than it is to rich, turn the mixture screw out Just a tiny bit. If the engine revs Up but the idlespeed stais Up quiet a Long Time than it Runs to lean. Screw the mixture screw in Just a tiny Bit. The V8 Models Run very wenn and arent hard to tune.
I'm a former mechanic, and electrician. You need to be careful when taking the cambelt off, the timing might be out,- which might be one reason it doesn't run properly. There should be an idle screw on the carburettor- this allows you to set the idle once it is running. It looks like you need to take it apart
I'm a mechanical engineer, the metal dust in the oil tells me he fucked it 😂
Nitro fuel has a mixture which also contains oil, it's similar to fuel mixed for 2 stroke engines, a little oil that lubricates the engine and gets burned. When kev ran it on 100% methanol, it flushed out all the oil and it was basically metal on metal. I honestly sometimes wonder why kev makes stupid decisions when it comes to his videos sometimes. He didn't even run the engine in properly, he never runs his rc car engines in. Just starts them and full throttles. It's sad to watch, but i guess it gets him the views. Same when he sends the cars into oblivion and damages half the parts, but you can can argue that's part of using them, to bash, break, fix, repeat.
Yep, destroyed it by switching fuel. Also a mechanical engineer and former master tech.@@EagleFPV43
the methanol fuel wouldn’t hv caused the engine to seize that quickly. Theses engines are built to last a few months…. i doubt a cycle of 30 mins of non lubricated rpm ruined it. I think it’s due to the change in temperatures as he ran the fuel. The only reason i can think of that his shaft was stiff was cuz he ran the engine way too hot. The radiator had no fan on it and there was no where near enough air going into the supercharger in the first place.
I strongly believe his engine seized up due to incomplete combustion and thermal expansion.
Could have been why it sounded a little clunky
Try pouring all the oil out of you're car engine and see how meny seconds before it seize. 2t engines get lube from the oil mixture in the petrol.. methanol is alcohol that cleans the engine really well from all oil residue xD@@KS-vo3hf
Heck yes! Please turn this into a awesome project. Go Kev!
I think its already been mentioned but u need to run the vent line to fuel tank to pressurize it so it pushes fuel to the carbs. It was already running lean and then u sprayed it with nitrous which leaned it out even more. Poor thing didnt stand a chance! Would love to see it in the truck once u get it running right. The extra wieght in the front would be beneficial to a burnout rig imho.
He even knew that you need to run it rich with nitrous since you have 2 oxygen molecules instead of the normal 1 with air you have upto twice the fuel burning power with nitrous.
Methanol killed it! It's not got any oil in it! But why didn't you connect the crankcase breather back to the fuel tank which would have pressurised the tank acting like a fuel pump.
Thats why it kept shutting off it didn't have pressure of the engine to feed it what it needed when needed it
@@Mike-vs9vo exactly
I didn’t even think about that,hell yeah that was his issue because he does t have a fuel pump!
cuz this guy has no idea what he's doing. Money can't buy knowledge.
That messy Port was a line to pressurize the fuel tank. That poor thing never got enough fuel to run nice. You should rebuild it, and definitely run it in a burnout rc project!!
Love your vids always so interesting and entertaining. And no unnecessary waste of time. Good work.
lovely content! Well done, mate. Dumb question: you showed us a water pump, what about the oil pump? Could the engine have seized to work due to lack of lubrication? Looking forward to see what you guys find out about it
Yes, you should do it as a project. That’ll be so awesome.
Hey Kevin, those glow starters have a “potentiometer” in them. I was gifted a 2 cylinder engine and the glow starters wouldn’t make the glow plugs glow. I adjusted the little screw on the potentiometer to get them to glow on a 2S Lipo. The glow starters are also very finicky and you can burn out the plugs super easily. It’s a bad design.
Thank you Kev! Been wishing someone would do this since i seen a short with these engines on the bench!
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Same that was cool
Hello. This type of V8 engine also needs regular oil, because you put the factory oil in it, but it is not enough to keep the engine running. The engine was full of metal particles because you boiled the cylinders. Before starting for the first time, you have to put a little normal oil in it.
I was worried about it seizing up when he said he was going with pure methanol. It def doesn't have any oil mixture for lubrication.
if i remember correctly u also have to break it in and after running for a bit change the oil 1 or 2 times. before going complete bonkers with it.
i saw at the back a gear sticking out and the thing that fell of was supposed to turn it. i think it is the oil pump and it was not turning at 6:49. it probably never turned after that and that would also explain the metal bits and the seized engine.
@@reneentarastraathofvanmarw2287 u mean in the back where the flywheel sits, with that big gear? i dont think its supposed to be turning while the engine is running. theres a starter on it with a small gear and since it cant disengage like on a real car, it probably can only turn in one direction while trying to start it. but not 100% sure.
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The big wheel at the back is the flywheel that connects to the starter, and what flew off was the clutch housing. The oil pump is always located on the crankshaft at the first cylinder so that its speed matches the engine speed
I would love to see this project come to life! Please do it Kev.
Yes
yes! flood this comment with likes!
Gotta make it happened!
Yes
do it kev
One thing to check... glow engines with resin carb, sometimes there is some resin shaving from the drilling left inside. It happened to me a couple of times, and the engines are impossible to start or adjust. Now, I always take apart all resin carb prior to starting a new engine.
Tank wasn’t pressurized. Also supercharged with nitro on a brand new engine is crazy.
When i was a kid, i found one of those silver nitrous oxide systems in my mums knicker drawer, always wondered what it was for, I never knew she had a interest in RC though.
😂😂😂
I Know this sort of thing can be frustrating. But from what you said it was lean and you were venting pressure from the crank case to atmosphere instead of the fuel tank and throwing a dense oxygen charge at it to boot. These engines have been proven to work and work well. I would love to see your project! But at least give the engine a chance.Love the content.I was just hoping for more.
The arm chair know it all LOL!
I was thinking it made sense to run the hose from the "crank case" to the tank for positive pressure. I've never played with one of these myself but I was just thinking something was off.
The fact you said that at the end, makes you not an armchair expert/ computer expert lol, guys like that would never admit that ever 🤠
So glad to see this, I have been struggling with the idea of getting one wondering if they are reliable and easy to use…
First mistake, using water as coolant. Second mistake, using non nitro fuel in it, third mistake trying to use nos, your lucky this little thing did not explode sending shrapnel in your face. When the coolant line blew nitro onto you telling you the head gasket was blown already mixing nitro into your water before the water boiled blowing the coolant line onto you, also its a bit above my head but i would think you would need to change the timing if you use non nitro fuel or nos, i would not recommend nos, its an aluminum engine and i know real aluminum engines cant handle nos, i would not expect this little guy to handle it even if it was steel. Awesome video dude, dont underestimate these little engines, they can throw a rod through their little oil pans and blocks like a real engine. Id also reccomend safty glasses at least, i dont think you want nitro/nos/fuel/oil in or shrapnel in your eyes.
I would definitely like to see this as a project. I had multiple electric RC cars but I’ve never wanted to mess with gas because I know they’re pretty difficult and nitrous is definitely not something I feel comfortable playing around with.
Nitro RC cars are very simple to run, The engine kevin has her is a very expensive bit of kit which very few rc enthusiasts will ever own.
Just hook the belt to an electric motor and let it spin the supercharger pulley. These engines are notoriously hard to get to run right.
anyone that knows how glo engines actually run, and how the compression and fuel ratios affect ignition timing also knows that a supercharger on a glo engine is sheer stupidity.
It's not a 2 stroke glow engine.@@paradiselost9946
@@paradiselost9946 It's interesting that every single one of these little V8 engines end the same way and they all used the glow plugs...The only ones I've seen run almost reliably are with the spark plug ignitions systems...He might need something a little bigger than that Arma to fit everything into it.
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Runnin methanol will make it waaay harder compared to usin plugs and gas. I’m sure those carbs start freezin up and they definitely aren’t made for much more then being mounted on a block or something and just starting it and showing your friends type deal and not for runnin in a rc and I feel that’s why there ain’t alot of dudes tryin it, absolutely badass tho and I’m extremely jealous 🤠
yea but if it gets too big it gets too heavy too. these engines dont produce enough torque to be used in rc cars that it would make fun. i like them, how they look, sound and how tiny it is and yet it works. but for a real use he would need a gearbox just like johnnyQ90 has build. there was a dude who build a 1/4th Grave Digger from scratch, he used a stinger v8 engine which was compared to this one bigger, but it did function way better.
I would love to see this! it would be even better if you could also make a dual rear exit exhaust!!
This engines are a pain in the ass to work with, I've never seen a video where the guy starts it without losing some hair in the process
That line that was spraying nitro, you should attach it to the top of the Fuel tank. I remember my older nitro cars had a tube that went from the exhaust pipe to the top of the fuel tank. I'm pretty sure that's why you were lacking fuel pressure to feed the motor.
Best of luck!!
We’re all still waiting for the one you were putting in a crawler 4 yrs ago 😂
Yup
Yeah Kev where is it
PLEASE add it to the Infraction! So happy to see so many more of these videos on here Kev! :) Keep em coming
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Hell yes, I personally would love to see a supercharged Toyan V8 put into a Infraction. If you do you gotta make dual exhaust that exit the rear. Lmfao. The guys over at Warped Perception had some pretty good luck with this motor. I'm willing to bet they can help you out with running it. I think they actually ran different types of fuels through it as well to find what gave the most power.
The idea is really cool, but i'd try without nitro injection, or even without the supercharger at first since that makes it harder to start. And idk if it would work well in an infraction, it would be very front heavy. Maybe put it mid mounted in a limitless so you have better weight distribution?
Kev, this would be an incredible project that I think everyone would love and would be very successful on that chassis and high body style
That’s awesome I’ve always wanted to see someone put a mini to scale engine in a rc car but I understand all the hard work it would take to do so awesome video tho
You definitely should keep trying to get it running, it sounds awesome when it's going.
That Methanol had no oil in it like the glow fuel does
Yes it's probably run a bearing or worse!
Glow fuel contains oil to lubricate the engine.
Running straight methanol will kill it for sure.😢
Get the ignition system conversion kit to run spark plugs. Ignition timing and gas should make it a lot easier to run
I'd recommend a Cison L4-175 OHV. It sounds amazing and is quite reliable. They also sell a gearbox for it.
Really cool new project Kev! I look forward to the other episodes!
You should mount the engine behind the cab for a mid-engine layout.
He wants a drift car, not a race car. Front mounted means not so much power needed and less tendency to wheel stand and flip.
Yes but a mid mounted engine will hold a drift better and be alot easier to control. I've owned many cars in my 50 yrs as a semi-pro and mid mounted is definitely the way to go in a lightweight body.
@@dazofthemoo1531 It's a tall engine in a model, it'll probably want to wheel stand everywhere. I suppose it wouldn't if he uses hard, smooth type tyres but, then it would just skate around boringly. I had a 1/5th Baja bug with the 26cc engine and yeah, that drifted ok mostly at speed with a mid to rear kind of mounting but this is much shorter wheel based and that tall engine I think will probably be pretty prone to rolling too but, it'll be a bit of a hoot either way, especially if he gets it running a lot better than here. It never even revved very well so was pointless adding nitrous, damage, probably from being too lean and consequently no lube looks like it may have already done some major damage to it. I think the nitrous attempt on a glow engine without running in and proper tuning was a very bad idea.
@@lorditsprobingtime6668Yes. Considering the cash Kev seems to have behind him, he's probably better binning that one and starting again. Once he gets this thing going, I think it's going to be either very good or very bad. I'm definitely curious to find out.
@@dazofthemoo1531 I wouldn't ever bother with one at the prices they ask but, most sensible people who've spent the money to get one will make sure they've got that pressure to the fuel tank and run it very rich and slowly start leaning it out bit by bit after several tanks full. I've seen enough running on YT to know they can really scream and do sound pretty amazing. This was not the way to do it and then shoving nitrous into it when already running lean was a very smooth brain thing to do.
I would really love to hear it running properly and in a model of some sort, it should look and sound amazing, IF he doesn't screw it up like here, what a waste!
I would love to see this project continue!
Man I all ways wanted to do this with one of those old metal Tonka trucks 😆 thanks for sharing ill look to see how this project came along I hope u fixed it
Is the valve timing correct after the belts were removed Kevin 😊
This was my first thought when it was running like garbage. Never really sounded quite right.
WaZz up, kool idea make it a series
From what I’ve seen about these, they run better on gasoline with the spark plugs vs the glow/nitro setup. I’d love to see thin in the arrma
Isn't that the pinnacle of RC?... I mean, to have as much realism in at smaller scale that you may never experience in something full scale is my main attraction to models and RC. Just saying
I love how kev always converts it to the american standered for us americans 🤣
If any body can get it done it’s you Kevin!!! 👍
For $2000 I would expect it to work. Make the manufacturers get you another one. Doesn't look good if it doesn't run. Would be amazing if it ran in that truck. Keep at it !!
I love you're using James Teals nitrous method! 😂😂
Clearly the two channels watch each other a lot. They just got the motorcycles kevin reviewed
@@DustinDIY yea cleet even mentioned seeing a rc car guy review em.... Must have been kev! I cant wait for him to rip the monster truck at the freedom factory!
Actually. This motor. And building a car from scratch. Like a scaled game over monster truck. I bet tye could weld a frame that looks. Better than factory. That would be a hell of a collaboration.
Did I just watch 2 guys blowup a $2100 micro V8?
Yes yes you did😂
the nitro fuel has oil in it for lubrication like 2 stroke motors , that is usually the only lubrication the engines have. that being said i love your v8 rc car idea and would love to see the build and result. subbed for a follow up video.
Would love to see this working. Surely they've tested it to actually run, so it's gotta be possible.
That is the coolest looking rc engine I ever seen! That would be kick ass if you install that engine in that truck!! Insane!
I think you need to put that engine in, it would be so cool to see!
Just a question. When you put the supercharger on did you check cam timing because they share the same belt
I’m gonna love this series! ❤
KEV (no hate) please! Please! don’t let this become a project that sits on the shelf! I would absolutely love to see this ripping around a car park!❤❤
It's a novelty engine... It is not made to run long or last long...
There is a reason you can't find videos of these toyan engines doing anything except free revving by youtubers who were given free samples to make a video on... they only make a couple videos because the engine stinks and only runs a few times. A single cylinder nitro engine is 100x better.
This engine is a waste of time.
@@volvo09 Kev has done it before and he can do it again
Also if you truly believe this is a waste of time how come you clicked on this video and looked at the comments?
@@Alvino_rc i don't doubt his skills - that's why I love his channel, but I'm calling the engine a waste of time because it won't last...
I know people WANT to see it done, but it's not going to end up the way everyone expects (some V8 rocket)... It has nothing to do with Kevin and only the motor. It makes nothing for power, and is made of soft aluminum, it just won't last and a cheap nitro engine will kill it all around.
Will it make a great video? Probably. But will it last more than a few tanks of fuel before the valvetrain is worn out and it won't start anymore? I highly doubt it.
I've seen some model builders working with these, they almost always have to get new ignition assemblies (which you did), and a better fuel pump. Try an electric pump as well.
This project is amazing!!! Good job Kev!!! 👍
Hey Kevin, another great vid. I love your builds and the fact that you do some of the most one and off unique projects, but sometimes it seems like you either abandon them or just don't update them anymore. I know you probably have 100000 of videos to create, but sometimes it sucks watching a really cool build and then never seeing it on the channel again.... Mp10t and the other mp10's never got more running footage :/
Nothing like spending £2k on a toy engine and blowing it up in an hour 😂
Welcome to methanol/ nos style engines or just big power race stuff, people build 80,000$ engines and burn them down on the dyno when breaking them in, before even getting to take it too the street or drop it into a car lol. Trust me, I been there unfortunately 🤦♂️🤠
@@HighSideHustler81 hahaha yeah, I get the fact that they're great little pieces of engineering, just thought they'd be more sturdy 😂
methanol wont ignite correctly using a glow plug, it also dosnt have any of the oils that the correct fuel has to keep it lubed up and can clearly see that the fuel isnt flowing past the Y joint youve fitted. also your relaying on back pressure from the exhaust to force the fuel into the engine. prime the fuel line first and it will start easier,
The meth flow rate for stoich is higher compared to nitro “blend”. Would probably need more than vacuum feed ….Also running non oil added fuel probably quickly washed the walls and cooked a bearing 😂 but love the content!!
Let’s appreciate kevin for all the money he spends for us to be entertained, great one pal 🎉🎉
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@@NoMoreDrifting- yeah
It’s gone real tight ….. that’s what we all never said .
Epic builds brother .
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Yes do it , I've been wanting to do a project like that
Man if you get that engine dialed in that would look super cool in a scale rc hydro drag boat?
That's gunna be bad ass!!!! Can't wait to see it all together!!!
Do it, and you’re making an rc hoonicorn. Perfect. Also, you’re just not bolting the supercharger hat down, works just like the monster truck engine
That would really be sick if you put that little guy in the infraction🤙
Hey man, that line you ran that was spitting out the nitro is a pressure line for the fuel tank. You should run that into the fuel tank for pressure.
Kevin, love the channel, and appreciate your passion, but...
I'm not sure the ARMA chassis is going to work with that engine. I think you're going to end up making your own chassis. As I see it, the simple fact is, brushless motors and RC petrol motors are made to be installed ON a chassis, there is chassis beneath them. This engine will require the engine to poke down through the chassis, so the driveline can be somewhat level. Creating the engine bay required in the front end is going to seriously compromise the plastic chassis as it currently is, and that is not to mention that the ARMA suspension is precisely where you want that engine to be, IF you want that supercharger sticking out through the "bonnet".
I would like to see you create a car for this engine, I just think you're going to have to build yourself a bespoke chassis... The KT EXTINCTION. Your own chassis design is an opportunity to take what you've learned through your RC life, AND leverage the skills and knowledge you've gleaned in the building and running of GAME OVER the monster truck.
Regardless, I will for sure be watching, however you choose to execute this project!
Yes please build it. It's my favorite truck I'd love to build one after you do. Thanks Kevin
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Absolutely YES.
Perhaps something slighty bigger.. xmax perhaps?
Please get it done I would love to see it drive around by the way, I love your videos
This is THE coolest thing I have seen. Don't give up! If the manufacturer can take a look at it, as I think it is poor manufacturing tolerances. If not, the recommend giving it a full strip down and re-engineer. With some TLC that engine will be insane. The Mad Max V8 Interceptor💪💥
He meant to bash it from the start, or, he had an occurrence of a ID10T fault
Excellent ❤
It sounds awesome when it fired. Did you add oil to the methonal by chance? If not that could of melted it. Maybe the supercharger is making it more difficult to run right or it needs a fuel pump or something.... good luck with it. Id suggest a standard 4cycle o.s. 40 four cycle rc car engine for the infraction if you cant sort it out. Those work and were designed for that application.
This might sound crazy but if you scale the fuel lines up to 1-1. If your feed line is 5/8ths then you split it in half to feed to carbs it goes to 5/16th. I would say you needed a independent fuel feed for each carb.
Hey Kev try the spark plugs with the nos. More spark. Flow plugs can't handle that.
I would like to see this project come to its full potential of possible it would be so cool! It would be like that one video you did a while back with the real engine in the crawler vid
The spring retainers and rockers are lose on some of these from factory. Take the valve cover off and inspect. Sounded clanky.
Yes, you need to do this as a project would be totally awesome
I’d love to have that engine! The way it is Seized!
Stick that v8 in!! I recon that would do sick burnouts
It's a lot of work, but looks fun. Great job.
Try the inline 4 version of this engine, it's not superchaged but its easier to deal with.
Both the infraction and the felony would be great cars for this! I can already imagine that sweet red and black intake sticking out of the matt black hood of a felony 😏🤤 and the name just begs for an actual engine 😫🤌
That mini NOS tank was made for fun in multiple ways 👍
I would love to see this project come alive
Gotta make this come to life dude!
If the engine is knackered then I would love to give it my grandson mounted on an engine stand to go in his bedroom. He’s mad on anything like this as I used to have my own RC track that I held competitions on once or twice a month.
Tim.
Glow fuel is like 2 stroke and contains oil to lube the engine, don't know if you have a wet sump but straight methanol would be the same as draining the oil out of your car and taking it on a three mile run, seizure right.
please do this as a project, a shrunk down muscle car with a transmission and engine and everything else would be sick
Yess!!! Please need a video on the second part!!
A lot of work with engineering and machining to make that happen, some sort of gearbox or drivetrain,weight distribution the list goes on good luck with it.would be interesting to see for sure.
Killed it with lack of lube. No doubt it needs running on two stroke mix and running in before nitrous
It's be really cool if you could get this to work. I would recommend sending the dead engine to "I do cars" so he can give it a proper teardown on UA-cam, assuming the manufacturer won't accept it as a return.
Merry Christmas Kevin, thank you for keeping us entertained