1968 Ford F3L P68 In Action (Incredibly Raw F1-like Sound)
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2016
- Enjoy 8 minutes of the 1968 Ford F3L P68 at full chat during the 2016 Spa Classic. We had never seen the Ford P68 in action before and were determined to get a good amount of shots of this beast when we noticed it would be present at this year's Spa Classic. And a good amount of shots we filmed indeed!
If you were present at the Spa Classic then you know how amazing this car sounds and how hard the driver was actually pushing it, making it a wonderful experience overall. If you didn't make it to Spa last month then this is THE video for you. We tried capturing the F3L from all possible angles so you could witness its beauty and raw sound in every single way possible. Those who are watching this video right now, you have probably seen this car from more angles than the people who were actually present at the Spa Classic ;)
1968 Ford P68 F3L Engine specifications:
Ford Cosworth DFV
3.0L 90° V8
4 Valves per cilinder
Naturally aspirated
420 BHP @9,000 rpm
366 Nm @ 7,000 rpm
670 kilos in total
Top Speed of 350 km/h
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Seriously, one of the most beautiful bodies on a race car I have ever seen next to the Porsche 917, P4 and GT40.
Ditto
+The Lola T70
And the Ferrari 312 P Berlinetta. Todays cars and races are boring and drivers are puppets on a string. Yesterday they were heroes. Jochen Rindt, Jo Siffert, Francois Cevert, Clay Regazzoni, Graham Hill... They had personality and courage.
and Lola T70
I watched one of these race in a historic race at Kyalami in South Africa a couple of decades ago and it is still one of the most beautiful race car noises I have ever heard. 2023 and I still searched youtube to hear it again :)
I saw this car back in 1968 at Oulton Park, when Richard Attwood put it on pole and thought it the most beauitiful car I'd ever seen; it still looks just as good now. I'm amazed and delighted that one still exists and still goes so well. In the 1968 Oulton Park TT race the diff failed and Attwood joined David Piper in his Ferrari, which came in second to Denny Hulme in a Lola T70. The P68 was too fragile and that pretty long tail also began to reveal the stability problems that would plague the early long-tail Porsche 917s. It was so unstable at high speed that John Surtees and Jack Brabham refused to drive it and a high speed crash at the Nurburgring ended the career of promising young driver Chris Irwin.
What an absolutely STUNNING DESIGN.
It’s like the love child of the Ferrari P3/4 and the Jaguar E-Type
In 1968 Aussie legend Frank Gardner put the F3L on pole at Spa (1000k race) pushing Jackie Ickx into 2nd spot.
That amazing pole lap was a full 4 seconds quicker than the GT40!! Gorgeous race car to look at and fast.
A rare treat indeed !
The F3L has a rather tragic history, which is a pity really since I still think it's one of the most beautiful sports racers ever built.
Motor Sport correspondent Denis Jenkinson hoped to experience a few laps at speed in it, but when he went to Goodwood, test driver Frank Gardner said it was so unstable that, even though he had to reluctantly risk his own life testing it, he wasn't prepared to risk Jenkinson's skin. The project was soon abandoned after that, probably for the best.
Unfortunately not before my father fell victim to it at the Nurburgring in 68
@@AlexanderIrwin No, indeed.
Between 6:19 and 6:24 you can see how the P68 overpass a GT40. That is something spiritual.
was an ill fated effort to wrap an F1 car up in a sports car shell - looked and sounded amazing, was ridiculously quick in a straight line but had reliability problems that plagued its limited outings.
Please those who discover this P 68 only now, you are seriously in need to begin to read with an immersive dedication, books and mags from the greatest era of motorsport.There was many stunning cars in the sixties, have you heard about the Chaparrals, the Abarth 2000 and 3000, the Mclaren Can Am and quite all the beautiful USRRC/ Can Am cars ? Today, alls Le Mans cars look alike, only the abundant stickers and body covered by adverts can differentiate them...
Love this. Never even heard of or seen this car before this. thanks!!
Ver pleased to have you learn about a new, amazing car through our channel! Thanks for watching :)
Basically the car is the successor of the GT40. But was unsuccessful (and consequently, less well-known) because (a)The car always fails to finish races due to some small problem or problems, and (2) the car, while very, very quick in a straight line, is also very, very unstable at high speeds. John Surtees and Jack Brabham refused to drive the car!
@@jcgabriel1569 The car was unsuccessful because Ford US had pulled out of World Championship racing due to the rule changes that eliminated prototypes over three liters (Ford GT40 Mk. II, IIB, IV, Ferrari 330/365 P2/3/4, Mirage M1-Ford, Chaparral 2D/2F). The F3L utilized the Cosworth-Ford DFV that was dominating Formula One, but the car was brand new and needed the extensive development that any new car requires, but Alan Mann Racing, though committed to the project, just didn't have a large-enough budget from Ford Europe to properly develop the car. The niggling issues that showed up were the kinds of thing that proper testing would have discovered and allowed to be corrected BEFORE races rather than during them.
With all its issues, the car was FAST - with proper testing and development, it may very well have challenged for wins.
I didn’t know that car!!!!!! WHAT AN ABSOLUTE GODDESS!!!!!!!!
BBBEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUTTTTTTTIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!
thanks for the footage!!
That flyby at 0:58 is absolutely unbelievable.
The rounded cockpit also reminds my of the Ford Mirage, which Sports Car Graphic reported similar behavior in 1967. Incredibly Jackie Ickx won Spa in that car at Spa;IN THE RAIN!
Wow !!! This is the first time I see this car, the sound the body of the car. Love it
Disagree if you like, but that is the most beautiful Ford ever !!
it sounds like an f1 car because it has the cosworth-ford DFV!! such a great sounding engine and a great engine as well
I just watched the Le Mans highlights and the leading prototypes from Toyota and Porsche just looked stupid. I used to love sports car racing when you had gorgeous cars like this, the GT40s, T70 Mk IIIBs, all Chevrons, the 312P, even the 908s & 917s looked good. Watching the Corvettes, Ferraris and Astons is great but now the really fast stuff leaves me cold.
Multa i hate what lmp1 turned into
I do like the tech in Porsches 919evo tribute car and Toyota also has a Le Mans winning LMP1 car.. but I know what you mean.
Stunning car....very fantastic sound....i build the kit Airfix this car.....is simple magic car...thank you for posting
Coulda, shoulda, woulda. But putting all that to one side, it is still one of the most gorgeous race cars ever built to my eyes. Stunning car.
That's the first time I've seen and heard this car ever.... What a beast, beautiful.
I did have the Matchbox Superfast model when I was a kid though, the Ford group 6 they called it.
Never have my eyes come across the wonderful machine! I love it😍
I was unfamiliar with this beast! What a sound and what a treat...thanks!
Yes it does look a little like a cross between a P3/4 ferrari and a porsche 908LH beautiful looking and sounding machine...
To be fair this car could have been a massive success, the main reason for its failure was fords tightness. Alan Mann was given a budget of just 10k to develop it, it was designed by Len Bailey the Gt40 designer. This car was very quick but had aero instability at high speed in its original form, hence all the add on flaps, Chris Irwin a very very quick up and coming F1 star was given £500 to race it at the Nurburgring in 1968 and after just 2 very quick laps the car got airborne at flugplatz, the car was destroyed, along with chris irwin's career he received massive head injuries and never drove again. It also destroyed his marriage, it was a miracle he lived if you saw the state of the car, Ford claimed a hare was found in the front air dam and caused chris to change his line causing the accident, a driver chris had just overtaken saw no such thing.Half hearted interest by ford ,Tired cosworth DFV'S and lack of development plagued the car so ford pulled the plug. There is a lot of interesting original 1960's info with some good pics if you trawl the web regards this car.
It was good enough to win Le Mans twice, though. The DFL was a staple of group C2 also, although not quite the same engine.
Ford sponsored a couple of really beautiful but badly performing sportscars in the later 60s, the Holman Moody can-am car was another stunner.
I was at that meeting at the 'ring, and it was devastating news
I recall reading accounts about this car from AutoWeek in 1968, where it debuted at the BOAC 500 race at Brands Hatch; where two cars were entered for Bruce McLaren/Denny Hulme & Jochen Rindt/Mike Spence in the second vehicle. There were written passages in AutoWeek that made mention of its "teething" troubles; as only one of the two entered cars made the grid, with teaming Spence with McLaren for the lone qualified entry.
Other written aspects I recall were the handling problems of the car at Brands Hatch, 1968. Where having a 100 bhp advantage over the Porsche 907s, the car was just staying competitive, and not dominating, the field. Lastly, the brake pads had to be changed on the car during a pitstop, which suggested the car was ill-handling . . . as cars of that era could go a 500 mile distance without brake pads change.
Chris (is) was my father. I went and did a lap at the Ring this year 50 years after that accident.
To be fair this car's timing was wrong. If it was made in 70's, it could have given Ford 3 more Le Mans victories. Because in 1972 5L engines were banned and cars that have 3L F1 engines started to dominate the race and in all of the F1 engines of that era none of them is more dominant than Cosworth DFV 3L V8 which was used in this particular car.
This thing is so beautiful. The design... Love it
Saw and heard this car in South Africa in 1988. Cosworth DFV. Was being driven by Richard Attwood.
This is the car that Denis Jenkinson called "the most beautiful car I have ever seen."
Thanks for posting, had a model and see pictures but never actually in action. Brilliant!
Awesome and thanks for the uploads!
Very, very beautiful car and great sound ! Thanks for posting!
Thank you! We'll post more great cars in the near future ;)
1968. 3000 cc. 420 hp.
That's simply amazing!
Insane sounds from a legend !!!
excelent !! thanks for posted
Cars from the 60s and 70s were something else. I recall that the P4 look alike didn’t live up to it’s GT40 parentage.
It’s a bit galling that every American documentary about this and the GT40s hardly ever mention Eric Broadley, Alan Mann or Cosworth.
Gorgeous old machine, some of these cars are rare, and must be worth a ton of money, how on earth are owners comfortable with driving them almost flat out like this??
Amazing car, really moved very skillfully... 3:331: What an amazing sound. Great impressions. Thanks for uploading.
That was indeed a very smooth shot! I'll tell the man himself ;) Thanks for the support Peter, as always!
Epic sound! I Love this!
Thank you!
There is a fellow in Europe that has set out to replicate the car. He posted his progress in a blog hosted on GT40s.com I have not checked in on that project for a few years, but it was coming right along. He had collected a mass of photographs and taken key measurements of the surviving original, and using complex digitization, produced a pretty accurate CAD model. Last time I checked, the chassis fab was well along, including suspension bits, largely with period correct fittings. He had 3-D wire frames of the body in software. Hope its well along, or done. I must now check up on that. Such a darn beautiful thing, ... stunning. I wish Fran Hall would come up with a body mold and add this to his roster of offerings at RCR.
Incredible; insane sound; nice car!! :-)
Beautiful!
Thanks!
Thank you very much for this excellent video of yours. And the technical description to go with it. I just saw the car on another video. and googled it, then cam across your video of much better quality. Thanks Best regards from H&H Helmberger & Horsepower motorsports moderation
We remember it like yesterday, arriving at Spa and seeing that car in the boxes. Such a joy to see and hear it run, and a very rare sight at that seen as (for all we know) the car never returned to Spa. Thanks for your comment!
An extraordinary RaceCar!
This car is fast ! dam nice !
Just beautiful 😍
What a beautiful car. Reminds me of the Alfa 33 and Ferrari P330
for so long this car is my favorite i know its made in the60s but man i wanted to have one so badly
Beautiful car, it reminds me of Porche, Ferrari and Lola of the day.
molto bella, grande macchina!
Nice!
Incredibly raw F-1 like?.....Hell, it's a Cosworth DFV
200 million would have been a bargain!
The F3L lacked the thorough testing and development that John Weyer provided to the Ford GT40 and Porsche 917 as well as financial support from Ford. The Ford F3L is mentioned in John Horsman's book "Racing In The Rain".
The handling and aero was very dodgy. But I'm sure it could've been sorted. The first GT40 needed a spoiler or two to prevent flying when first tested.
😍😍😍
The performance of this car really surprised me. Back in period it was quick but hilariously unreliable. and here it is taking the fight to cars like the lola t70's and the alfa 33-3 wich are cars that slaughtered this machine back in the day. Whoever prepared this car did a stellar job, because it surely wasn't this good of a car back then.
still the fastest ford topping out at 217 mph and the most beautiful one
Awaome video, may I use a short portion of this in a video about the Matchbox variation?
Hi, yes you can but if you publish it somewhere please put a URL to this video with it. Thank you!
Gorgeous thing.
It looks like some new aerodynamic stuff has happened to the nose in recent times, to improve stability, I'm sure.
Of course it sounds like an F1. It’s got a Cosworth DFV in it.
I didn't even know Ford made this car. You always hear about the GT40's but never this and this is the first time I've seen this car. It sounds like a F1 car! Btw do you have any more video's of this car racing and onboard video? I am not familiar with the DFV engine either. Do you have info on that. Awesome video!
EMDSD14R The Ford Cosworth DFV was the first Formula 1 engine made with Ford money. It was a fuel injected, four cam, 32 valve V8 with a flat plane crank. It could be mounted as a fully stressed chassis member. It was competitive in Formula 1 for 15 years, winning 155 Grands Prix, making it the most successful F1 engine ever. It wasn’t just reliable, it also adapted well to the needs of ground effect which prolonged its racing life. There was a 2.65 litre version which was turbocharged and used successfully in Indy racing, supplanting the Offenhauser as the basic engine.
One of the most beautiful bodies paired up with God’s engine equals one of the greatest race cars almost nobody’s heard about
You'd swear it was a Ferrari. So was this intended as the successor to the GT40 or something then?
It was built to compete in group 6, and not quite as a successor to the GT40 but more as another model completely. It didn't last long though mainly because it failed to start/finish all of the races in entered in '68 and '69 (mainly due to mechanical/electrical problems, or from crashing)
I think they fixed all those problems over the years because it was one of few cars that was ALWAYS driving during the Spa Classic! Great to see it's being pushed to its limits again! From start to finish this tie ;)
I'd imagine they did considering it's quite quick here. Cheers mate, keep up the good work!
Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised that owners today, while they may not have the budget of works teams, aren't so rushed and are able to take time to properly sort things out, and probably do a lot of the development work that the factory never got round to. Probably a lot of these historic racing cars are much better developed now than they were when they were new.
Good point!
Belle voiture
It's puzzling. The limited pedigree of this car. A beautiful car by any standard. I would guess it became a matter of funding.
That car would be gorgeous in any lineup.
When I first viewed this video a while back, it was the first time I saw the color of the bodywork being red, as the print media back in the 1960s were near exclusively using black & white pictures.
While the color red is associated with Ferrari, 1968 was one of the few years where, in that era, Ferrari did not produce a front-line sports car for the world endurance championship of makes.
I think it would have been better if the P68 was painted in British Racing Green. But red certainly made the car stand-out in the field, especially so in those rain/fog plagued races.
Red and gold were the team colours of Alan Mann racing.
it's a shame this car doesn't get the same recognition as the GT40. If only had it won some world titles.
Those vintage cars are even faster today because modern tyres are much better.
Looks more like a Ferrari than a Ford,but strikingly beautiful nonetheless. Kind of 330P3 and long tailed Porsche 908 mixture.❤️❤️❤️
Ferrari P3/4 inspired to say the least
Oh to be rich and be able to run this a couple weekends a year.
Wow, haven´t seen this before. Amazing car. That driver really is pushing it. Do you have engine specs ? I assume it´s a Cosworth ?
I'll post the engine specs in the description in a minute! It is powered by a Cosworth DFV indeed!
Thanks. I´ve read up on the car and it has an interesting story. It´s one of only three build and as I understand it the only one left. It was known for beeing blisteringly fast but unfortunately utterly unreliable. It never finished a race.
It was probably in the early days of the DFV engine, back when it wasn't up to its full potential just yet. It actually surprises me such a small amount of people know about this car! We've had multiple followers of ours ask us about this car when we posted something about it on Facebook or Twitter. Hopefully this video along with a few other posts on our other social media will get the word out because in all honesty, this was my personal favourite car of the entire weekend of being at the Spa Classic! Along with the Peugeot 905 of course :)
+HistoricRacingHD That DFV sounds fantastic but it was not reliable for endurance racing yet. I think it was also not aerodynamically stable so it was scrapped. She's a looker though!
probably the peopleo who actually knows this car are Matchbox collectors... lol very beatiful, always loved that embedded rear end
Gorgeous car! Handed like crap at high speeds though.
Who made the chassis and body?
Not only fast but so beautiful. Makes roadgoing super/hyper cars look ugly except the Miura. Just perfect, like the Ferrari Dino 206 SP (the racing car, not the overhyped heavy, cheaply produced, underpowered rust bucket people pay silly money for)
Its even lower than a gt40 :o
Check out the documentary The 24 hour war. It explains how Alan Mann Racing was set up to run these on behalf of Ford in the UK.
180 degree headers, that's why...
According to the comments, it looks like I'm not alone in not knowing anything about this car.
@Tommy Cruz . . . This car had an extremely brief, and unsuccessful, racing history. You would've had to been literally there at the moment, 1968, following the FIA World Sportscar Championship, to have a familiarity of the P68. The Autoweek publication, in the Spring of 1968, gave the P68 a lot of prominent press with its debut at the BOAC 500 at Brands Hatch. Had I not been following the 1968 WSC series, where I was pulling for Wyer's GT40s, I would have been clueless about this race car, too.
I find it remarkable that as an automotive museum piece, of the P68, is getting track time at speed.
When Allan Mann tried to put the DFV into an endurance car........ The project ultimatly killed off by Ford wanting an all American Lemans car hence they focused on the J-car or Mk4 as it developed into.
Looks better than Ferrari IMHO
I agree with those who say how beautiful a car this is ........but few are aware of this car.......it followed the Ford GT40, MII and MIV fame and was a very ill handling car.........I believe it was British building and teamed.............it had a short period of use........but what a car.
saw it here in 1968, when it started from pole for the 1000 km race, in those days, it was faster thwn formula 1 on this track, unfortunately it did only made a few laps, heavy rains ruined the electric
John Surtees refused to drive it in 1968...aerodynamic imbalance he found disconcerting during testing.
Seems Mr. Surtees had a knack for not getting in bad cars.
I remember this car, by the looks of it I thought it would have been something special, it was a big failure.
Somebody's lying. Looks like sounds like must be a Ferrari. Damn cool though. Just a little something to terrorize the interstate with.
Craig Pennington Flat plane crank.
Aerodynamically unsound
Center of pressure issues..
That long tail
With spoiler..
Even Porsche 906/907/908/910 "Langs" had the same problems..
Ask those who were there....
J.C.
They should have used a wing placed more forward and over the axle. New tech back then.
That spoiler has too much leverage.
Sounds nothing like F-1 to me.
It literally has a period correct F1 engine so, it'll be hard not to sound like a contemporary F1 car.
your "incredibly raw F1- Like sound " seems a lot exagerated, as it is simply the Ford Cosworth V8 that from 1968 to 1982 was on the vast majority of F1 cars; So that's normal that you think it is F1 Like, as it is simply a true F1 sound, long before the dull and fade sound of today F1 cars.
Design completely stolen from Ferrari 330P4
Or the GT40 Mk. IV from 1967...?
Looks and sounds like a Ferrari.
I’m sure all Ford fans will hate this comment. Just saying.
The sound, yes it's comparable but y'all forgot about the '67 GT40 Mk. IV from the J-Car Miles crashed in
@@WEC_Connoiseur Back in the 60s, I watched Ford GT and GT 40s race at Sebring, and they did not sound like this car at all. They had a deep throaty V8 roar.
This car’s engine is of a different design, as it was a smaller displacement, and was a flat plane crank
Cosworth DFV Ford aluminum engine, thus the Ferrari like whine.
These cars had a rather brief racing history; they were VERY fast, but were unstable at speed, so drivers were reluctant to race them.
Sad, because only a couple of slight aero changes would have produced a much improved handling package.
Beautiful car though.
Only 420 hp and 350 kmh.
Hmm, fake or really aero-efficent car.
320 or 330 is not the same as 350.
Jarek Nowak the lack of drag needed less power at increased speeds but at the expense of downforce, very dangerous
Jarek Nowak You’re totally right; 350 is highly unlikely.