If I missed any MD Program you know of that is known for taking in US students, please comment below so others can see them! If you can include a bit of info about them, even better, cheers! 😁
Hi Frank! Great video. You did not mention anything about med schools in Mexico. Can you make a video about Med schools in Mexico? especially about UAG. Thanks!
One of my nephews went to med school in France and very soon he will take the USMLE to be able to get a surgery fellowship in the US. He grew up in France but he is bilingual so he won't have any trouble. it is so much cheaper to become a doctor over there but it is very hard to get into med school. You need to pass a super tough exam after high school.
People dont want to hear this, but he 'best' IMG medical schools for the states are the established and prestigious schools that are NOT (frankly) diploma mills for unmatched American students. Those would be Oxford, Cambridge, Edinburgh... bar none. Yes, you will most likely be able to match somewhere from UQ or Sackler (they are good schools), but if you really want a top program/speciality you would practically need to be a real 'img.'
This is the most dumbest thing I have ever heard. It would be analogous to a Russian kid who couldn't get into a Russian medical school and then someone suggesting to the kid to go to Harvard or Yale lmao
Be careful in your choice because these schools with a few exception do not guarantee you acceptance into a local internship or residency program which are reserved for their own citizens. They want your money but don't want you to stay. There are a few exceptions but very few. Internships and Residency programs are funded by the gov. for their citizens n most other countries.
Another option medical school of Pécs it’s a tough curriculum but it’s in Europe and after your graduation you can work in every European country as long as you speak the language in that country
For those coming across this video today. If you are a US citizen, it would be far more preferable to take a couple years to prepare your application before applying and considering US DO programs before ANY international program, regardless of prestige. Literally, almost any US DO school would be preferable to even the most prestigious international school (not sure which school that would be). If you plan to practice medicine in the US, you want to strategize in the context of what will give you the best chance of matching into a US residency program. US DO Schools now have a 90+ percent match rate which is far better than the ~50% match rate of international applicants. I often see people choose international programs because they feel pressured to enter medical school as soon as possible. For traditional applicants this may come from family pressure, for career changers this pressure may come from feeling "behind" due to their older age. I'm starting medical school next year at a US MD program and I'll be 27 on the first day of classes. I've met multiple people on the interview trail in their 30s. US schools are considering more and more non-traditional applicants every year. You may hear people throw around the saying "Medicine isn't a sprint, it's a marathon." This saying couldn't be more true. Take your time, line up your shot, and get into a US program whether MD/DO, and you will have a FAR greater chance of practicing medicine in the US. Matching is the end goal, and you want to maximize your chances of matching. Respond to this comment and I'd be happy to discuss this topic further.
For being a nursing student in the ADN program (2year) I thinks it’s awesome that you include and amazing on the schools part that a bachelors is not needed. Gives me the opportunity to start taking medical school pre reqs courses instead of having to get my bsn then take pre req courses. My Top 1 choice is SGU and they state “A bachelor’s degree (or its equivalent) is required, which includes all the required science coursework.” Does that mean an associates + pre req science courses that could equal 90-120 hours is equivalent to a bachelors degree? And could be accepted?
Very interesting video! As a Polish American, I certainly considered Jagiellonian in Krakow, but ended up studying at a U.S.-DO program. Acknowledging match metrics in your video was part of the reason why I’m choosing to stay in the US, but do miss the chance of studying medicine abroad. Catch-22 situation :)
He did not do a good job of researching. UAG in Mexico gets Financial Aid and is a top medical school in Mexico producing thousands of Md's for >50 years. Don't always believe everything you hear and do your own research!!
Thanks so much for the educational video! Do you happen to know anything about the European University of Cyprus, Frankfurt branch? This particular branch started in 2022 and it is fully accredited by WFME, ECFMG, and USMLE. I'm highly considering this as an option, but with wanting to come back to the US for residency I am still unsure.
KAU is the best school in the Middle east too idk why you didn't mention it😅 it's ranked 1st in MENA and in both Medicne and as a whole And 98 world wide
So for rotations at MUA I know students can go to either US or Canadian affiliated teaching hospitals (full list here under "hospital teaching sites": www.mua.edu/md-program/clinical-medicine). In terms of residency, I didn't do too much research there so I can't speak to that very well.
If in English they were setup by the British and do not follow the American program approach. He seems to have narrowed it down that way because he is doing this for those who are primarily Americans and have to write the USMLE exams in a timely fashion.
Mmm I know there are some programs that allow for med student rotations (because I was interested 🤓) but not too sure about full on schools designed for students to come back to US tbh, if you find out I’d love to know as well
Thank you sooo much for your help. I am curious which international med school is best for getting into Gen Surg residency in the US after med school. Appreciate it.
Mainly depends on the individual from my perspective, the school can give you opportunities but it’s up to you in the end, I’d say check out the match list for whatever school you’re looking at though
So for the UQ-Oschner program where we go back to the US for years 3/4 it’s only for US students, that being said there’s a good amount of Canadians here at UQ Med but they’re here for the full 4 years is the difference
Depends what you want. SGU has no research of any consequence and is not a real university in the same sense as RCSI which has established research programs and is world ranked. Pass rates on USMLE exams are similar so you need to look into both and see if either are what you are looking for.
this university is in my hometown! Everyone in my hometown knows that ben gurion is a good university. As far as their med school is concerned, I would not really be able to provide much info except that they do have a good match rate.
My husband is an MD went to international medical school did the USMLE and has been practicing for 20 years here in the US. Actually there is about 5,000 US MD’s who graduated from his school practicing medicine here.
the landscape have changed. Dramatically, what your husband went through 20-30 years ago is no longer applicable in 2024. Run through some statistics and trends.
If I missed any MD Program you know of that is known for taking in US students, please comment below so others can see them! If you can include a bit of info about them, even better, cheers! 😁
Can you please let me know your thoughts on the Trinity University in Carribian?
What about Saint James School of Medicine in St Vincent and the Grenadines?
Hi Frank! Great video. You did not mention anything about med schools in Mexico. Can you make a video about Med schools in Mexico? especially about UAG. Thanks!
AMAZING video. Thank you so much for sharing your research. It was really helpful
One of my nephews went to med school in France and very soon he will take the USMLE to be able to get a surgery fellowship in the US. He grew up in France but he is bilingual so he won't have any trouble. it is so much cheaper to become a doctor over there but it is very hard to get into med school. You need to pass a super tough exam after high school.
People dont want to hear this, but he 'best' IMG medical schools for the states are the established and prestigious schools that are NOT (frankly) diploma mills for unmatched American students. Those would be Oxford, Cambridge, Edinburgh... bar none. Yes, you will most likely be able to match somewhere from UQ or Sackler (they are good schools), but if you really want a top program/speciality you would practically need to be a real 'img.'
People got to IMG because they can’t get into US units. Oxford would therefore be out of question cuz it is even harder to get into
This is the most dumbest thing I have ever heard. It would be analogous to a Russian kid who couldn't get into a Russian medical school and then someone suggesting to the kid to go to Harvard or Yale lmao
Thank you so much Extremely helpful information.
Thank you 😁
@@frankmsimon
One question :
Is the medical curriculum in these universities attested by an MD degree or a DO ?
Thnx!
@@Pln0710 all of the ones I listed are MD, I think DO schools are mainly only present in the US
@@frankmsimon Great ! Thank you much for your reply !
Thanks for your videos! Cause of you I'm interviewing at Ochsner soon
Good luck!
sooo what if i wanna go med school in another country and stay in that country rather than coming back to the us? i have no desire to come back here
Meeeee
You could try UQ-O where I’m at right now if you’re really interested, a few people stay in Australia every year since we have the option!
Be careful in your choice because these schools with a few exception do not guarantee you acceptance into a local internship or residency program which are reserved for their own citizens. They want your money but don't want you to stay. There are a few exceptions but very few. Internships and Residency programs are funded by the gov. for their citizens n most other countries.
Another option medical school of Pécs it’s a tough curriculum but it’s in Europe and after your graduation you can work in every European country as long as you speak the language in that country
For those coming across this video today. If you are a US citizen, it would be far more preferable to take a couple years to prepare your application before applying and considering US DO programs before ANY international program, regardless of prestige. Literally, almost any US DO school would be preferable to even the most prestigious international school (not sure which school that would be). If you plan to practice medicine in the US, you want to strategize in the context of what will give you the best chance of matching into a US residency program. US DO Schools now have a 90+ percent match rate which is far better than the ~50% match rate of international applicants.
I often see people choose international programs because they feel pressured to enter medical school as soon as possible. For traditional applicants this may come from family pressure, for career changers this pressure may come from feeling "behind" due to their older age. I'm starting medical school next year at a US MD program and I'll be 27 on the first day of classes. I've met multiple people on the interview trail in their 30s. US schools are considering more and more non-traditional applicants every year. You may hear people throw around the saying "Medicine isn't a sprint, it's a marathon." This saying couldn't be more true.
Take your time, line up your shot, and get into a US program whether MD/DO, and you will have a FAR greater chance of practicing medicine in the US. Matching is the end goal, and you want to maximize your chances of matching.
Respond to this comment and I'd be happy to discuss this topic further.
Some people HAVE to go overseas, so the video is right, the best Img is a great question
Wow. I appreciate this man
Glad I could help 😁
For being a nursing student in the ADN program (2year) I thinks it’s awesome that you include and amazing on the schools part that a bachelors is not needed. Gives me the opportunity to start taking medical school pre reqs courses instead of having to get my bsn then take pre req courses. My Top 1 choice is SGU and they state
“A bachelor’s degree (or its equivalent) is required, which includes all the required science coursework.”
Does that mean an associates + pre req science courses that could equal 90-120 hours is equivalent to a bachelors degree? And could be accepted?
I'm not really sure to be honest with you, best bet would be to contact them most likely, definitely an option though!
The supply and demand chart was backwards btw
Very interesting video! As a Polish American, I certainly considered Jagiellonian in Krakow, but ended up studying at a U.S.-DO program. Acknowledging match metrics in your video was part of the reason why I’m choosing to stay in the US, but do miss the chance of studying medicine abroad. Catch-22 situation :)
Try for an international rotation! Then you get the experience + have that US-based title 😉
There are 6+ Schools in Poland that have Med School in English.
Why no med schools in mexico? There's a great one in Monterrey where my family is from.
He did not do a good job of researching. UAG in Mexico gets Financial Aid and is a top medical school in Mexico producing thousands of Md's for >50 years. Don't always believe everything you hear and do your own research!!
Because we dont want to get tortured by the cartel😂
What about UAG?
i am curious as well
Thanks so much for the educational video! Do you happen to know anything about the European University of Cyprus, Frankfurt branch? This particular branch started in 2022 and it is fully accredited by WFME, ECFMG, and USMLE. I'm highly considering this as an option, but with wanting to come back to the US for residency I am still unsure.
What about National Universidad autónoma de Guadalajara?!
I consider it the Harvard of Mexico. Organ based like US and accepts Financial Aid. Poorly made vid!!!
There are 6+ Schools in Poland that have Med School in English.
I got accepted at RCSI, Trinity, Dublin University, KAU(Saudi)
All MBBS
and i chose kau for it's high ranking
KAU is the best school in the Middle east too idk why you didn't mention it😅 it's ranked 1st in MENA and in both Medicne and as a whole
And 98 world wide
is it based in Jeddah? how much does it cost to study MEd at KAU?
i want to go to argentina so muchhh
I’m considering MUA-did you happen to find rotation spots where students go or any information for residency?
So for rotations at MUA I know students can go to either US or Canadian affiliated teaching hospitals (full list here under "hospital teaching sites": www.mua.edu/md-program/clinical-medicine). In terms of residency, I didn't do too much research there so I can't speak to that very well.
Why didn’t any African university appear on the options?
If in English they were setup by the British and do not follow the American program approach. He seems to have narrowed it down that way because he is doing this for those who are primarily Americans and have to write the USMLE exams in a timely fashion.
is there any US medical school in United Arab Emirates?
Mmm I know there are some programs that allow for med student rotations (because I was interested 🤓) but not too sure about full on schools designed for students to come back to US tbh, if you find out I’d love to know as well
Is that tuition for the entire program or per year?😮
Any plans to make a video on Carrebean vs Irrland med schools?
Not at the moment, I think it’ll mostly be about my experience in UQ-Ochsner since I’m here now
Thank you sooo much for your help. I am curious which international med school is best for getting into Gen Surg residency in the US after med school. Appreciate it.
Mainly depends on the individual from my perspective, the school can give you opportunities but it’s up to you in the end, I’d say check out the match list for whatever school you’re looking at though
I've checked the UQ-Ochsner program online and it seems like they do require an undergraduate degree prior to entrance. Is this the case?
Yea, they ask for an undergraduate degree. They also have some specific prerequisite classes on their site I believe.
Thank you@@frankmsimon
Is the tution cost per year or for entire program?
For the entire program
@@frankmsimon Thank you for making such a great video. Looking forward for more.
Is your course at oshner accepting Canadian citizens
So for the UQ-Oschner program where we go back to the US for years 3/4 it’s only for US students, that being said there’s a good amount of Canadians here at UQ Med but they’re here for the full 4 years is the difference
which is best ? Joining SGU in Grenada or RCSI?
SGU
@@Spicytots5 can u specify why?
Depends what you want. SGU has no research of any consequence and is not a real university in the same sense as RCSI which has established research programs and is world ranked. Pass rates on USMLE exams are similar so you need to look into both and see if either are what you are looking for.
Just want to add the latest QS WUR ranks the RCSI in the top 200 medical schools in the world.
always go to ireland, its at least a real uni.
forgot about Ben Gurion in Israel
this university is in my hometown! Everyone in my hometown knows that ben gurion is a good university. As far as their med school is concerned, I would not really be able to provide much info except that they do have a good match rate.
forgot universidad de panama
@@gizmo38bit's program is not geared for US students in the way the schools mentioned are. Name me all the hospitals in the US it is affiliated with.
If you are residing in the US and want to practice medicine in US after becoming a physician. Stay away from International med schools.
My husband is an MD went to international medical school did the USMLE and has been practicing for 20 years here in the US. Actually there is about 5,000 US MD’s who graduated from his school practicing medicine here.
the landscape have changed. Dramatically, what your husband went through 20-30 years ago is no longer applicable in 2024. Run through some statistics and trends.