Intel 13th Gen K series & DDR5 overclocking insights and demos
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2022
- Interested in easily, effectively, and reliably your 13th Gen Intel K series CPU like a 13900K, 13700K, or 13600K? We have you covered with our OC insights and OC walkthrough using ASUS AiOC. This community and media-acclaimed ASUS exclusive overclocking feature allows you to overclock your CPU specific efficiently and effectively and critically are specific to your CPU cooling solution. So whether you have a 360mm AIO, a Large tower heatsink or a customer liquid-cooled looped your OC is specific to your setup. ASUS AiOC also allows enthusiasts a rich set of options to tailor their overclocks to their preferences we will dive into these helping you understand how to get more out of ASUS AiOC and our rich overclocking options.
We will also be showing off our latest ROG RYUO III AIO cooler featuring the latest 8th gen Asetek pump alongside our new AniMe Matrix display!
When it comes to overclocking Z790 and 13th Gen also offers impressive DDR5 overclocking, and we will provide insights into what you can expect while also doing some live DDR5 overclocking and seeing what type of frequencies we can achieve!
#Overclocking #PCDIY #DDR5 - Наука та технологія
Recently bought my first ASUS board - a ROG STRIX Z690-e. Paired it with Corsair Dominator DDR5-5600Mhz RAM and a 13700k. I’ve never been an ‘overclocker’ but I loved this series and played along at home with all the tweaks and tests. Got some amazing results (5.99Mhz on one of the P cores) and great stability. My sims are performing better than ever! Ps. That ROG STRIX 3090 I got also helped too! Cheers and thanks ASUS!
My 13700k really appreciates you helping it achieve excellent OC'd performance. I'm not the most saavy enthusiast but this vid helped me get a rock solid stable 5.7Ghz+ with sweet temps. Thank you very much.
Thanks! Glad you found it useful. Best of luck with your build, feel free to share your build in our ASUS PCDIY group.
Thank you so much for making this video. It defently helps alot, on letting us know on feature sets for the 13th Gen and the Z790 Platform. (Even for other platforms as well)
Seeing this video, I actually changed my mind on the board that I was getting from the last message from before. I'm more leaning towards in getting the Z790 Hero than the Strix-E, at first I was leaning on for the 13900K but got worried on how Power Hungry from some reviewers have said (including with the Temps it reached in CinBenchMark and was thinking of the 13700K)
But by seeing this video, I may end up changing my mind n still go for the 13900K and most likely follow up from what you've shown there. I was more concern like with Temps when its under a heavy load, including if i was multi tasking, while gaming or even task in Blender or Content Creation, while Gaming.
Thanks soo much J.J
No problem, if you have more questions join our PCDIY group. Best of luck with your build and thanks for keeping ASUS in mind and being #TeamROG
You are so right. I already ordered the Tuf else now thinking should have gone with a Strix atleast
@@ASUSUSA I got a low sp 13700k and I have set the optimism value to the max allowed which is 150 (I increased little by little) and I have noticed that the voltage idle is high around 1.5v and under load it drops significantly. Would I have any risk of damaging cpu? I haven’t touched the jumper for extra cpu power.
Edit: temps are really good, both under load and idling.
Just bought a whole ROG system and I love it! Look forward to watching this video even though I'm on a 14900K right now. I imagine it will be similar. Just looking to see how to utilize the AI overclocking thru bios.
Surprisingly excellent video tbh
love his explainations! very nice to listen top him!
Amazing vid. Gonna try oc soon. Using i7 13700k with ASUS ROG Maximus Z790 Hero. Using Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE LCD cooler. Hope i be able to reach some good temps and clocks. Cheers from Sweden.
I really like you as a presenter and the way you explain things. I know the channel is also for promoting new hardware and I was wondering why your premium AIO coolers does have full copper radiators? Is there some spec. for the AIO pump of the flow rate L/min, not just some pump rpm?
Great video. I purchased the new Z790-a gaming wifi DDr5 MB. It forces you to enable under volt protection which makes it really difficult to use Intel ETU
Just built a 13900/ROG Hero/MSI Suprim Liquid system and running all the initial benchmarks and really enjoying it. Last pc was an Alienware r9 with a 9900k/2080ti.
Thanks for being #TeamROG and #TeamMAXIMUS best of luck with the build, feel free to share in our ASUS PCDIY group.
Thanks JJ😀❤️👍
Thank you JJ for this comprehensive video! I have a asus z790-e strix gaming MB and i9-13900k and asus 4090 TUF, and strictly followed the steps on the cpu OC and cache OC BUT NOT the memory XMP(cuz I have 4 dimms memory on board), one strange thing is, when I had cache OC on (with other parameters same as in the video) the geekbench score drops significantly(~50% less), why is that?
What are good starting values for the cache dynamic OC switcher for the i7-13700k? And is there an order of cache settings to be changed and by what amount.
Your contents awesome, appreciate if you could put sections in the video so we can skip to which processor you're working on at which time slots so it doesn't require watching the full 2 hrs + video.
Thank you!
Thanks for your feedback, we do plan to update the description with time stamps.
Can you please explain further or do another more in-depth video on cache dynamic OC Switcher? When I enabled it following the steps in this video it actually drastically lowered my performance. I tried different values for the current threshold to switch but still nothing was an actual improvement over having the feature disabled.
CRACKING GREAT CONTENT
Hey JJ! @ASUS North America I got a question regarding the subject of "undervolting" I know I probably leave alot of performance on the table and I will never actually use AVX instruction stuff outside benchmark scenarios, however, out of the box (factory settings) my ROG Maximus z790 APEX + i9-13900KS run VERY hot in benchmarks, usually hitting TJMAX within seconds on 2 or 3 cores and then throttling. I have done 0 manual OC and do not have AI OC enabled. I remounted my i9 several times to make sure it was not a thermal paste issue and it is not. I am fully water-cooled as well using 3 rads. Which leads me to the undervolt discussion. I see in AIDA64, HWINFO64 that I am currentlly using ~1.37v - 1.45v and around 350w of power to the CPU. This is insanity for the motherboard to feed the CPU with out of box factory bios 0904 settings. Will setting negetive (-) offset of 0.10000 to GLOBAL VRM CORE VOLTAGE (changing it from auto to offset mode) significantly reduce my overall performance? And will it be possible to increase frequency after said changes? I wish you guys showed a way to lock the voltage at intel specs, and lock power draw at intel specs (PL1 and PL2) 253 & 125, while still being able to use the 2-core 6ghz, 8-core 5.7ghz. I know its possible, but I got no idea which settings I would have to adjust or modify to get there. Anytime I change the power limits and set a fixed voltage my benchmarks go significantly down (-20% +). Please help! I should not be having all these heat issues with the z790 APEX and i9-13900KS; especially with a fully water-cooled loop! I essentially just want to reduce the power draws but maintain current OEM performance. It's feeding the system way to much power currently to error on the side of safety/stability. Help JJ! I wanna get this down to 1.3v 260w power draw, and then use my thermal headroom to OC.
Hey JJ. I need your help. I need to know which windows 11 power plan should i use for Ai overclock. If there is diference between high performance and balanced
Great video cant wait for my Hero and 13900k have some fun with 👍👍👍👍
Thanks for being #TeamROG and #TeamMAXIMUS make sure to join our ASUS PCDIY group and best of luck with your build.
should i disable thermal velocity boost and adaptive boost when using AI overclock?
Anyone know where I can find a guide to edit the registry like he mentions since I am running windows 11 I cant start the intel tuning utlity
looking to finally upgrade my old 8700k and 1080ti, but i haven't done any overclocking since i built my system in 2016! Wow things have changed so much! Its kinda confusing me tbh!
Does no one overlock in BIOS anymore?? I always remember these overclocking utilities massively overvolting things, and therefore most people tweaked in BIOS for better control. Is that not the case anymore?
Is the adaptive voltage just a new way to say offset overclock? or is that something different? My old 3930k ran an offset overclock setup where it would only ramp it up if needed
Hi, Can you please do this for the 14th gen on the Apex Encore? Love this content!
Buildimg a system With the i9 13900k and 2x 16GB 7200 MT(corsair platinum) - should I be running XMP 1?
i have 4 dimm ddr5 7600 teamup ram what is the best numbers to punch in to overclocked it and make it run on let's say 6000
Is the ring bus the same across 13th gen? Wonder if 51 is good for 13600k
I just purchased Z790 max. I am trying to understand how to use the audio connectors on the back of the motherboard to connect to a 7.2 AV receiver so I can get full Atmos. But i need to be able to connect from the motherboard directly to the AV receiver. How is this possible. I am using a monitor not a TV so ARC is not possible. If this is not the right place to ask this type of question, where would be the right place?
is cache the same as ring ratio?
Hi JJ great video. I was wondering what I could do to use your Z690 Formulas Pci gen 5 NVME add-on board since I also have a "way too wide" 4090 in the usual pci slot 1? I belive I have to put the included gen 5 add on board in the second slot to get PCIe gen 5 if I want to buy one of those super fast new NVME pci gen 5 drives which just released?
P.s. thank you so much for such an intuitive Bios and stable motherboard. It is amazing and Wow what a difference between the stone age MSI bios that my friend just bought haha
Thanks for being #TeamROG and #TeamMAXIMUS feel free to share build in our ASUS PCDIY group. The card must be used in a Gen 5 slot if you want to use a Gen 5 SSD but the reality is modern applications do not readily leverage the bandwidth of Gen 4 or upcoming Gen 5 drives. You will benefit most only if you consistently have a work flow that is consistently leveraging the high level of throughput offered by other of these specifications.
Hey team Asus ! I l really confused I have the extreme z790 13900ks and 7200 g skill I saw that the board support 7800 memory then I want to upgrade with an 7600 gskill or 7800 delta force but on the gskill site they don t show the 7600 compatibility with the z790 extreme or even 7800 ? Can you confirm me that’s it compatible ! Please thx a lot
Just got a i7 13700k with a strix z690 would it be better to get the z790
Can the z690-e aioc be used on the 13700k?
Is it bad that I have a G-Skill Ram with EXPO profile on an Intel 13900k? On a ASUS Maximus Hero Z690
Your options made my system unstable. Even under a liquid cooling system. Any suggestions?
Can someone help me please? I have a Z690 E and from the start i get error code D6. If i flash to a new bios, i get error code D6. Cannot go into bios. BUT if i shut down the pc, remove 1 dimm, restart, it reboots normally. Pc is working normally. Then i shut the pc down, put the second dimm in and it stays ok...... Very strange. Is this the mobo? Greetings
what power plan was used in windows with this OC
Hello, first of all, thank you for the detailed video and for the extensive work you put in all of your streams.
I am very curios and searching to maybe validate my future choice: Is the APEX a good investment? I am building a high end PC, 13900k, RTX 4090, custom water loop, etc.
I want this PC to last about 5 to 7 years.
So: 1 - Is the APEX RAM size enough for this time period? If so, is it 64 or 128 Gb max?
2 - Will there be 64 Gb DIMMS in the future, and if so would the APEX take 64x2 ?
3 - Will there be a Quad channel DDR 5 in the future ( even tho the dual channel DDR5 Is already a sort of Quad channel ) ? Curious because I'm still oscillating between 2 or 4 slots.
Mentioning that I am a heavy pc user, game developer with Unreal 5 , Blender, Adobe suite and many many browser tabs constantly opened.
Thank you very much !
You may be better served by the HERO. With this noted.
1. the APEX supports 64GB currently and may support 128GB once these DIMMS are released on the market, this may require a firmware update and is unknown at this time.
2. Yes, there will be 64DIMMs in the future. future support is TBD
3. No Quad Channel is based on the CPU IMC and chipset. Z790 is a dual channel platform.
I would recommend you check your currently memory load usage and target your memory selection based on this, keep in mind that density affects scaling. The denser the lower the frequency.
@@ASUSUSA Thank you very much for the detailed answer!
saw your comment.. hope you're not buying apex ram cause of aphex twin :D
@@iChronicalhaven't even realized the connection, lol. now i Really want it haha
Hey JJ. Followed the Video. Maximus Z790 Hero, i9-13900K, AIO Cooler and XTU reports P-Core 6 Max 8.96 GHz, P-Core 5 Max 9.17GHz, P-Core 3&4 Max 7.59GHz. How is this possible? Something in my version of XTU must be faulty.
These are my pc specs:
MB: Asus Z690 Maximus hero
RAM: 128gb (4x32gb) g.skill Trident 5600mhz ddr5
2x Samsung nmve 1tb 980 pro
Cpu: i9-12900
Gpu: Gigabyte 3080 Ti Eagle oc
Cooler: Gigabyte waterforce 360
Case: CM TD500 mesh
Psu: Corsair HX1000
Getting a swap for a 13900k cpu.
For the life of me, this pc doesn't boot with the ram set to xmp 5600mhz. It runs fine at default 4000mhz. At 5600mhz it just gives me a black screen.
I'm hoping that the default freq will be set at 5600mhz with the 13900k. If not, should I rma the motherboard?
When I first started the pc, there was no signal to the 3080ti & iGPU. After a bios update it starts fine. Sometimes when booting, it doesn't even show me the enter bios screen, it boots straight into windows. Is there something wrong with my MB?
How do I get Corsair Vengeance CMH32GX5M2X7200C34 memory 2x16gb to run at 7200mhz - I can only get it to run 6200mhz all abov that will not boot - any help how to fix it?
Hey JJ - I've been playing around with AiOC on my Maximus Z790 Extreme with 13900KS and was wondering if you could help clarify a few things:
1. Is it possible to apply an undervolt to the AiOC to try and lower temps even further? If yes, how or where in BIOS would I do this? Do I use the V/F Point Offset for each point or do I need to enter an offset voltage value in the Actual VRM Core Voltage or Global Core SVID Voltage settings? I played around with the latter two settings but could not see the offset reflected in Intel XTU.
2. I always get confused around the effects of MultiCore Enhancement and how that now ties in with AiOC. What is the best practice of MCE with regards to AiOC? Should we leave MCE on Auto or Enabled or disable it for best results?
3. Could you do a more in-depth tutorial video on how to use the new Cache Dynamic OC Switcher feature? I tried OCing my cache following what you did in this livestream but my system became unstable and I wasn't sure which values to adjust and how much to change. I looked online but could not find any useful guides on this feature so it would really help to have some kind of detailed tutorial.
I would advise you join our ASUS PCDIY group.
With this noted.
1. Undervolting is counterproductive for overclocking. All temps are not an issue with real world workloads/gaming workloads. Measuring your temps by a synthetic albeit popular from a community perspective is limiting and not sensible as you will leave considerable frequency on the floor at the expense of a thermal load that does not exist.
With this noted after you engage AiOC you have your choice to tune the VF curve via the UEFI or XTU and you can also adjust the scaling slider or temp target values.
Keep in mind the voltage curve set is model after hundreds of sample so most times you will just be introducing instability.
2.You do not need to worry about MCE it is irrelevant as you have a per core OC applied when engaging ASUS AiOC Leave it at auto.
3. Stay tuned there will be an updated guide expanding on what was detailed in the live stream.
Best of luck with your overclocking! #MoreMHz
@@ASUSUSA Much appreciated for your time, JJ. I'll give OCing another go with your advice in mind. Thank you.
1:28:41 I've done several 7 hours stress testing and passed but loaded into windows used memtest5 and failed in seconds.
I have the z790 with i7 K processor. My options of greyed out (@51:42)
What are those security options that I need to disable in order to start overclocking?
Ensure your UEFI is up to date. Once up to date, just load F5 defaults, go into Windows and run a stress test like OCCT or Cinebench for 15 to 30 minutes. Once complete you can either enable AiOC via Armoury Crate or within the UEFI BIOS. If you have more questions, join our PCDIY group.
hi asus is the Corsair Dominator Platinum 6200, CL36-39-39-76 DDR5 compatible with the z790 hero and z790-A ??
6200 mhz with 2 sticks?
Yes, these are compatible, but you may want to consider other RGB memory which is natively compatible with RGB control via Armoury Crate like TeamGroup, G.SKILL, Patriot, ADATA or others.
the xmp-profil at 7200nhz is not working at all
What about bent CPU’s? I want to see 13900k vs 7950x3D!
Do you have a video about DIMM FLEX and AEMP Over clocking memory? This is something Asus is offering in Bios i was wondering how that works.
Check out our written EdgeUp guide on how to maxmize your RAM performance with DIMM Flex 👇
us.asus.click/DIMMFlex-Guide
I’m just a little confused here. I swapped to a balanced setting in the power options and the cpu is downclocking as it should but I am seeing 1.5 volts at times. When I open an application that voltage does immediately go down. Is the 1.5v anything to be concerned about? Thank you.
If you are overclocking this normal and expected and the voltage is an adaptive voltage meaning it peaking to those values only when that multiplier is requested and in effect.
@@ASUSUSA in game I’m seeing 1.475v being pushed following your exact
Guide here. Is this okay do to the fact that the cpu is not being pushed?
I have the same issue. Brand new gaming a z790 13700k. Followed exact guide and my core voltage doesn't go bellow 1.41 volts. Idling on desktop cpu is at 1% use 6ghz 1.41 to 1.47 volts. Driving me insane !
@Eusebiu Moraru no no. I know you need 1.4+v for that type of frequency. I mean my pc never goes idle. It doesn't down clock. Always 1.4v pulling like 220 system watts. I turned on and off all the things that would make it downclock and it still didn't. I just re installed windows. Applied thr same over clock and jts good now
Any recommendations on what type of ddr5 ram to get, thinking of 32gb 2x16, unsure of the speed, specs to get etc. I have a 3090ti, 13900k and the rog strix z790e motherboard, build will be for gaming and a little bit of video editing.
Join our PCDIY group and read the DDR5 insights post. As noted in the stream though you can pick about any current kit 7000MT and under and you will be fine due to the strong IMC on 13th Gen series CPUs.
The overall value choice would-be a 6000 C30 kit of memory.
I've got 6800mhz 2x16gb in my Z790-e, 13900k and 3090ti. Overkill? Possible.
I'm new to pc building. Will 240mm aio be enough to cool 13700k cpu?
If your focus is general desktop use and gaming this is fine, no issues.
I am following this guide to the letter and I cannot stop getting BSODs every few minutes, and sometimes my mouse/keyboard inputs stop entirely. Geekbench can't even finish a CPU Benchmark with AI OC turned on, and that's if I don't crash/freeze in between attempts. Using a 13900k on the ASUS ROG Z790 Hero, just like you are in the video. This is really frustrating.
I'm back on default settings now - I hope there's something obvious that I'm doing wrong, but I've been at this since about December and getting this thing overclocked seems to be way more hassle than it's worth.
Consider joining our PCDIY group for more insight, keep in mind overclocking is not guaranteed but you should first vet you system at full defaults ( f5 ) your issue may not be CPU based but memory based so ensure if engaging ASUS AiOC to not enabled XMP to help to reduce the likelihood of have two factors that can lead to instability.
You also want to ensure you have updated your UEFI and MEI firmware and then re enable ASUS AiOC and check for stability, if you still have issues reduce the optimization slider as shown in the video to a value like 90.
If you are also using a mixed memory kit or have a IMC that cannot support your memory speed this could also be an issue.
which of the Z790 in your opinion is the best in terms of OC and applications? for 13900k or ks
OC experience is consistent across the majority of the boards. For many a board like the ROG STRIX Z790-F or -E will be a great choice. For those who want an even better OC experience consider the APEX as it is a 2 DIMM motherboard.
@@ASUSUSA Many thanks for advice. I am getting one of those ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX or perhaps EXTREME / HERO
Hi there thanks for the info. The strixx z690A has AI Overclocking as well ?
Yes, the ROG STRIX series all support ASUS AiOC
@@ASUSUSA thanks a lot. With The z690a Strixx updated to latest firmware, can I use your 13900k OC guide to overclock a 13600k including cache overclocing ? In addition do the z790 boards have any new features?
@@ASUSUSA In addition, can you please let us know what latency you achieved in this overclock with the DDR5 Ram?
i did this and got 6ghz 2 cores. browsing the web and watching videos the cpu is around 1.46 volts. is this high of a voltage ok if the load is small? once stress testing im at 5.7 all core 1.31 volts
It is fine as long as you are using ASUS AiOC as the voltage is adaptive and only provided for limited durations when the frequency is engaged. This is different than a static voltage which is maintain regardless of the load state/frequency.
@@ASUSUSA ok. I am using the ai oc. But the voltage never goes low. It's always 1.35 to 1.46v. It never idles. Even with balance power mode. As long as that's ok. I always just remembered dont go above 1.4v. But if in this case it's ok then alright
Any idea when the z790 maximus extreme will start shipping out? I ordered from B&H and they switched my order to dropship status. Meaning now it will come directly from Asus.
The board is already shipping, I would confirm with your etailer on timeline they have for shipment.
@@ASUSUSA i just talked to B&H customer service and they said they have no eta from Asus. I'm not really sure who to contact now. I appreciate the quick reply.
Sorry forgot to tell it is a asus tuf gaming z790-plus wifi ddr5 motherboard
My issue with this video and most videos about this cpu is they're not done in a case. I have a 360mm aio using NT-1 paste in an 0-11 Dynamic XL 6 intake 3 exhaust and using just XMP/ASUS MCE and I hit 90°c easily during a Cinebench run or Aida 64 stress test on my 13900k.
Game temps are between 55 to 72 depending on how cpu dependent the game is. Yet he's running xtu at 5.7 around the same temps. If I ran XTU at 5.7 I would have my hand on a fire 🧯
@Adam SP 96 on my cpu and my Hero MB wants to pump 1.44v thru it when I use MCE I'm not crazy so I have it turned off.
1.4v+ is default anyway for the 13900K, but i want to just lower the core voltage, but not exactly sure what setting in bios to use, even my idle in bios is 1.43v/1.49v@@MazrimCF
I'm getting a i9 9900KS Processor with a Asus Prime PRIME Z790-A is there a simple way to get it to 6.0Ghz? I was hoping the bios could do it in one or two steps?
An i9 9900KS will not fit in a Z790 motherboard.
@@Beelzybud l ended up getting a Legion 7 8th Gen with a Ryzen 9 and a 4080 thank you for answering l appreciate that
Did all this and it didn’t even get me 1 more FPS not sure what im missing
Hi, how can I get access to Aida 64 extreme? I can't find it in Armoury Create. All i have now is Aida 64 Extreme trial mode with Rog logo.
I got new Hero Maximus board.
You can download it under utilities within Armoury Crate ( download section which includes drivers and utilities ). Best of luck with your build, consider joining our ASUS PCDIY group. Thanks for being #TeamROG and #TeamMAXIMUS
@@ASUSUSA Thanks for answer. I did download it there. But it is still Trial version. "ROG" logo in license section and "Trial version" Do I need license key or something?
wwindows 11 freezes OC could be the cause?? any suggestions will help thanks, 13900K paired with maximus Z790 Hero
Consider joining our ASUS PCDIY group, linked in the description.
If you issue is OC based, you can check by loading UEFI defaults and seeing if the issue is resolved or no longer present.
If so then consider updating your UEFI and MEI firmware and then re enabling ASUS AiOC but adjusting the optimization slider ( lower it to 90 ).
If you are also using a mixed memory kit or have a IMC that cannot support your memory speed this could also be an issue.
@@ASUSUSA thanks, I think I finnaly got it to work now. hopefull nothing will happened in the next few days
Is there a difference between the 13700K and 13900K IMC? Can 13700K also hit 7600 MT? Thanks
The IMC scaling is similar, 7600MT is over the standard expected margin but reasonably possible on both CPUs. This noted in the stream and in our DDR5 insights posts you can read in our PCDIY group.
I actually decided to purchase an Asus z790 Maximus hero AFTER using a gigabyte z790 aorus master. My experience with it has not been great. My cooler rating is 161 And the processor sp is 98. While aioc is pretty cool, I cannot even run the chip at stock with ANY synthetic benchmark at all and not have it thermal throttle within 30 seconds. I am going to do a fresh install of windows later today and see if it improves the performance.
So far I've updated Intel ME to the latest using the update tool on the support page. I've flashed the latest bios for the board, and I've installed all motherboard drivers. I'm at a complete loss as to why this board is running so hot. I've tested it on 2 different 13900k processors (sp 94/sp98) and both perform similarly. I've remounted the aio pump 4 times and even reoriented the 360mm rad to give the tubing more slack to see if it would help, and nothing is working. The aio is a brand new ryujin ii 360mm argb.
I would love it if someone could shed a little insight as to why my temps are horrendous out of the box. It definitely seems to be the motherboard
i always have the same issue i have a corsair 420mm aio
@@benny-mi3kq lol his processor here is also a very good sample. Sp 107 he can run the same clocks at almost 70mv less than I can and that has a big impact on cooling performance. I'm using a contact frame as well and it just seems like my temps are better with the gigabyte board but the aioc is really nice for gaming.
what is the difference between xmp 1 & 2 and why u didn't enable xmp2 ?
XMP 1 sets the timing parameters and so on according to the manufacturer of the board like asus, msi, gigabyte etc. It's a profile prepared directly for the board. Most of the time it is more stable, optimized and squeezes more performance. XMP 2 will use the parameters written on the memory (given directly from the memory manufacturer) regardless of the board. It is often used as a fallback profile due to the instability of xmp 1.
XMP2 is the original XMP1 on asus boards, as its the same as XMP2 but asus adds extra tweaks if using XMP1, exactly the same timings voltage etc, i use factory settings what was the original XMP but now XMP2.@@singularafk
does that Prediction cooler come from the MB? Hero gives you better score than strix?
your cooler score is based on the temp / cooling performance from your cooling solution ( for instance a tower heatsink will have a lower score than a high end AIO or custom liquid cooling ). No the motherboard will not give you a higher score.
@@ASUSUSA but hmm i have 3 rad custom cooler and lower score lol
I think the best option is to underclock e-cores, not disabling them altogether (w11 applies here ofc).
No need to underclock you can use the Cache OC Switcher feature to disable then based on scenarios where they are not needed. Also limiting them will limit performance, as such it makes more sense to have their enabling based on current.
@@ASUSUSA is the cache OC switcher available only on z790 or also on z690 boards with a bios update?
48:50 is when this finally starts
If you use AIOC but it makes your system unstable, it won’t pass a complete cinebench test, where should you start dialing things back?
You can reduce the optimism slider as noted in the overview. Also ensure your UEFI is up to date and do not engage XMP at the same time to ensure your issues are not DRAM based.
@@ASUSUSA well i hit F5 in bios and restored defaults before i activated AIOC like instructed and changed nothing else. XMP doesnt have an off option, should it be in manual then, i havnt adjusted it at all beyond restoring defaults(F5).
@@ASUSUSA thank you,i was getting frustrated, cinebench kept crashing out with like 1 minute left in the run. I upgraded my original z690 prime to ROG Strix because i think i caught that oc bug you guys have lol
@Adam thanks it turned out to be a faulty stick of ram
Disappointed with the 7950X and mediocre DDR5 speeds so I returned them and bought 13900k and Asus Z790. Games are already faster without those lightning quick DDR5-7200+ sticks. Now gotta wait for those fast DDR5 to come out!
Thanks for being #TeamASUS best of luck with your build, share it in our ASUS PCDIY group!
is anyone having same issue with z690 on 13900k showing only 16 cors and 24t in task manager
Make sure to update your UEFI BIOS and ensure your MEI firmware is up to date.
@@ASUSUSA thanks I’m all good sorted 👍 it was windows I needed to update windows
Cache Dynamic OC Switcher missing on the Z690 Hero with a 13900K why is that?
It is not a Z790 board where this feature was introduced.
@@ASUSUSA so will this feature come to those who purchased a z690 board there is no reason to exclude us. These boards are supposed to support 13th gen so why not give us the features too!
@@usermac because Z790 is a newer chipset. Why don't you add self driving to the 2000 Ford Mustang? Both it and the Tesla have wheels, so it should work!
not sure if you still check the posts here. I would like your opinion.
I updated the MEU tothe version sugegsted on ASUS support site for z790-e and BIOS. Has the newer bios vers 0703 been updated to handel a dual set of 2 dim 16mb 6400 using the xmp I profile. I just built a computer after about 3 weeks of research and following many of your videos on overclocking.
rog strix z790 e-gamming wifi MB
Asus KO rtx 3060ti GPU
Intell I13700k CPU
2x dual GSkills 16mb 6400 32-39-39 memory
2 M.2 drives Samsun(one 990 +one 980)
360 MM ICUE 150 (total fans 11) 6 intake+ 6 on radiator cooler+1 back exhaust
I did a begining bench at default as suggested.using samesoftware as shown here.
then a second enabling AIOC and several others after enebaling xmp profile.
everything seems to be going good, the only concern I have is package temp gets to 91deg Cel after everything is set. prior I had a max of 82deg Cel at deault settings in bios without AIOC enabeled.
current specs
max Frequ 5.8GHZ
max Package temp 91 deg Cel
P cores at 60,59,59,57,57,57,5757
E cores at 45,45,45,44,44,42,42,42
mem speed max 6402
bench scores on Geek Bench single core 2298, multi core 21297
passed 1 hr OCCT mem test
Cinebench ranking 3. 16c/24t @3.4 GHz, 13th gen i7-13700k 11676
CPUID shows DDR5-6400(3200MHz) G.skills module size 16GB SPD xmp 3.0
what are your thoughts?
I did not mess with trying to indidvidually tune any memory setting because it is running the 4 dim on xmp I profile without any issues as of now.
You cannot update the UEFI to improve scaling beyond a certain point you have to understand that the IMC is the limiting factor not the board topology or the UEFI firmware which while they play a part are not the largest determining factor.
4 DIMM population is alongside increased rank, density and overall population ( 4 DIMM vs 2 DIMM ) will yield worse scaling. It is not needed as DDR5 supports higher ddensity in 2 DIMM configurations.
Furthermore there is NO 4 DIMM XMP kit on the market.
We have an extensive write up/post in our PCDIY group and have covered this in multiple videos. Please join the group and read the post to understand the limitations.
In your configuration you are actually limiting your scaling by a considerable margin due to using 4 DIMMs.
As to temps they are fine and expected if you are looking at unrealistic loads, real world loads and gaming and generally productivity will be much lower. Basing your OC and temps on unrealistic stress test only has relative value for stability and even then no as AVX offsets exists alongside TVB offsets based on temp. As such your best marketer for stability and temps should be based on what you are actually running.
With all this noted if you are happy with your config keep it as is but by moving to a 2 DIMM configuration you could easily look to scale to 6800/7000MT+.
Also one thing I noticed is my voltage never decreases just sitting idle the voltage is at 1.41 to 1.46 it doesn't go to 0.x 13700k.
This depends on how you OC your system and if your modify your power profiles. if you have more questions join our PCDIY group or reach out to service and support.
You will only see clock speeds reduce and voltages drop if you are running an an adaptive voltage policy.
@@ASUSUSA i will join the group. i followed this guide 100% adaptive voltage with aioc. i like the ai do everything. i dont care if it uses more power i just want to know if its ok for the chip
@@ASUSUSA how do i join? where is it
Well try resetting your bios, then disable MCE
I bought a returned msi meg unify z690 for my 13600kf, wish I would of spent the extra money on a z790... flashing bios without igpu and my mb was ultra picky about reading usb's.. (Was just about to RMA it after 72hours of pain and misery) now that its over I love it, hitting 6ghz peak boosts. Save yourself a headache and get z790, unless you enjoy suffering! my Ram is stuck @5600... still not sure how people are hitting 6k
Check our our ROG STRIX Z790-E GAMING or MAXIMUS Z790 HERO that being noted OC scaling is similar on Z690. You can join our PCDIY group and read our DDR5 insights post. Do keep in mind scaling in 4 DIMM configurations will ALWAYS be lower than two DIMM configurations while 6000MT is possible under Z790 and 13th Gen if you want the highest level of confidence move to 2 DIMM where this is easily possible with a wide range of kits and has minimal issues respective to CPU IMC silicon variance.
I have 13900k, rog strix z790e, rtx4090 and ram corsair beast 5200 ddr5 (2 paired kits of 32GB) Cant run this machine with four ram banks filled, runs ok with 1 kit of 32gb installed. Somebody maybe know working solution for this problem?
As noted in the stream 4 DIMM configurations are not recommended as there is no 4 DIMM XMP. You can run these configurations but they may require manual tuning. As the speed is somewhat conservative it should generally be possible.
Consider joining our PCDIY group if you have more questions.
If you want the smoothest experience consider defaulting to two DIMMs to leverage XMP.
hi man, good guys assembling my pc(:in plan and order:) this(video subj) mobo 13900k this kit KF564C32RSK2-32 x2 so 64gb... so what the target of my oc frequency... should say i don't care much about. just curious what i can expect with that for sticks more curious about latency. thank you
If you want the best DRAM scaling by a single 64kit not 2 kits this will reduce your scaling to 6000MT if not less. With 64GB kit you can see upwards of 6200-6400MT. Your latency is based on bandwidth and timings.
@@ASUSUSA thank you, but i interesting about two that KF564C32RSK2-32 kits. i understood situation so. the 1 kit will works at it's own latency and frequency, but two kits at z790 hero have to be reduced to 6000... probably you did typo. thank you... and excuse me for overreacted in other posts:)
p.s. btw about you said 1 kit 6200-6400
F5-7000J3646G32GX2-TZ5RK
F5-7000J3646G32GX2-TZ5RS
that's from ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO memory support list... so right now it's officially:)... but question still about two certain kits KF564C32RSK2-32
@@ASUSUSA funny thing. that guys set 5800 for stability. but everything working at native xmp. they update bios btw. set some voltages by xmp spec manually... any way... whatever that was before, now you can correct people, who said 4x16 it's hard or impossible to go cl32 6400 or even more... memory controller in auto and for now 1.385 is it ok for hero790/13900k? i mean in long term it's safe voltage?
I have 4 x DDR5 5600mhz, My intel XMP doesn't work(ASUS rog strix Z790). I end up in boot loop and crash windows... Please help me!! @ASUS North America
Have you attempted to raise the memory controller voltage or VDDQ?
Is the ethernet problem solved from the z590?
Intel released firmware and drivers to resolve the switch interoperability issues. Beyond that there were no issues, newer boards have a newer controller as well.
@@ASUSUSA Well I just bought two asus rog z590 maximus XII hero and both of them had this issue. So back to the store they went.
Woah I never knew you couldnt get 4 dimm xmp :/
The video is amazing, but tbh you answers wayy to much chat message. You should focus more on oc instead of answering all questions.
💯 video and information is top-notch. But the amount of questions non related to what were following at the time got very annoying after an hour or so, it made it a bit harder to pay attention and follow along. Besides the small annoyance of that, this video was extremely helpful amd very appreciated. Thanks!
❤❤❤ 100% right
Can you play custom gifs on the ROG Ryuo 3 argb?
You can customize via the AniMe Matrix Pixel editor but if you prefer GIFS the RYUJIN is a better choice as it is a screen.
the CPU is a i5 13600K
that AIO orientation is wrong.
It is not, this is the correct orientation for the RYUO III.
Not having the Extreme in White is a poor move. I have the Extreme already because I have to have it. If it was in white it would be amazing. You would think you would reserve that color for the more expensive boards...
Stop crying
I bought an Asus gaming laptop Tuf A17 in 2021, it worked for 1 year and 6 months and stopped turning on that for quality it is expensive more than $ 1000, I wrote to the support service and they said you need to pay! and you still need to pay for repairs in half or even more than the cost of a laptop, I don’t want to take this nonsense anymore, I was going to take 3 more laptops, and I also advise my friends not to take it. I thought that due to a factory marriage, replacement and repair would be at the expense company!☹️
It's seems like Assus don't have money to buy 128GB RAM. Or am not right? 7200MHz 4DIMMS is possible only with 64GB? Can you repeate everything with 128GB RAM just to shut my mout close?
Dude, just give as config to import.
But it says Z790 HERO 😂😂 1:40:56
Yes, that was just a misnomer in description. All the high MT testing was on the MAXIMUS Z790 HERO.
Just recently downloaded your newest Bios for the Asus Extreme z690 Firmware (March 2023). I did it because your onscreen OLED did not work consistently on my $1200 motherboard. I regret downloading this bios when the PC otherwise worked great which also took me some time to do and it worked great for 6 months. What a mess of bios from your company and your tech support is terrible. Google me, I am a retired fortune 50 systems engineer. I have worked with thousands of PC's and millions of dollars in network gear and I am certified on more products than I care to mention. I have built PC's for 30 years for fun, and the fact that your company has techs who read off of a piece of paper and tell me to send the motherboard in, makes me never want to own another Asus product. Basically, I have spent three days now working on what the Motherboard and OS likes with absolutely no guidance or tools from your company. I have been told to re-flash numerous times along with other BS. I believe this version of the bios is no longer happy with the memory I own. I will buy another manufacturer's motherboard before I replace the memory.
Is your memory on the qvl
The facts thats this Asus guy defends the Armoury Crate software leaves me with two possibilities: he dosent know the software or hes a liar.
1.421v vcore smh
No wonder Asus burnt itself and some thousand of 7800X3D on AMD side🤣
Keep in mind the voltage is an adaptive voltage and based on a V/F curve it is not a fixed static VID commonly users by some users. The voltage for a stock 13900K will exceed 1.4xx ( 1.415 ) without even enabling muilti core enhancement. You can also limit the max voltage if you want via the tuning options. Regarding X3D series CPUs, ASUS alongside all AM5 motherboard manufactures have released updated UEFI BIOS builds that contain new AGESA alongside new auto rules relating to max SoC voltage. If you have further question feel free to reach out to our service and support team.
I’ve had this motherboard, RMA the 1st board due to PCB issues of the board, received a 2nd board that had the same issues but worse and had to RMA that one as well… 10 months passed and just received a full refund, Total Trash Board… Customer Service is not for the customer at all… I have a lot to say and share, I have multiple emails and correspondence with photos, plenty of data to support what I’m stating as being true… ASUS is NOT what it once was, if you get a good product then congrats but if not then you are in for a terrible experience.
Asus, do you respond on UA-cam? Cause my key cap is broken. It breaks very easily after ~2 years. Try to provide parts on your website so I can order from 🐇
I couldn't find key cap anywhere to buy for my Asus TUF Dash F15 2021 model with RTX 3070
Serial and Model # M3NRKD017070099 (TUF516PR-DS77-WH)