I honestly don't think gaijin modeled the sub-projectiles at all, I think they just have it fire like 10-15 shrapnel forwards in a small cone like a really tiny APHE.
It seems like it also might be a fusing issue since they seem to be detonating at the point of impact for a normal round and not a couple meters before to maximize the shrapnel cone.
That's pretty much the exact problem, actually. It already happened in naval. When they made a big damage model change about a year ago, their were massive fram-rate drops constantly. What happened was, they increased the amount of fragments that could be modeled per-shell. Once ships started getting hit, the insane amount of shells that needed dozens of fragments to be processed would damn near cripple the server until enough people died. I can only imagine how bad it would be in ground with auto-cannons creating hundreds of fragments per second, multiplied by a few dozen instances of this at any one moment. @@FoquroC31
Germany does not hold the patent to the Gepard design, Swiss Oerlikon does, as they own the patent of the 35mm gun assembly, which in turn how the turret is designed. Hence why many SPAAG armed with 35mm Oerlikon cannon superficially resembled each other - their turret is designed around the 35mm gun assembly owned by Oerlikon. This does include but not limited to Polish PZA Loara, Type 87 "Guntank", Swiss Fliegerabwehrpanzer 61 prototype, US prototype SPAAG with 35mm gun that lost against the Sergeant York prototype, and of course... this Chinese Gepard :v
Nimm den Stolzmonat Faschisten Dreck aus'm Profilbild und beschmutze unsere Flagge nicht mit dem Mist. Ist peinlich was ihr Möchtegern Patrioten macht was unser Grundgesetz und unsere Flagge besudelt.
Fun fact, you can switch to irst tracking so the plane you are tracking doesn't know you are locked on to them with the pgz09 (Also can lock with radar dish down)
@@Love_Letter_Typewriter except i dont think ahead is able to fuse properly with irst, its not a reliable way of judging distance. you would need radar for that
@@daholl8942 IIRC the PGZ09 has an advanced track radar that allows it to gather range data from IRST. AHEAD works with IRST in game, I checked myself.
Had a debate about this in wt forums. Gepard could be upgraded to use them but no gepard was upgraded to the version of the gun that allows ahead (gdf003 is gepards gun, ahead needs like gdf005 and above)@@yamatokurusaki5790
Does ahead really explode vehicles irl either? I've always thought it just damages the airframe so much that it's not possible to repair it, but they can maybe fly for a while.
Ahead may seem a little buggy right now but it's a massive upgrade for two reasons: It has no tracer and allows you to reliably counter ATGM based helicopters.
When planes get closer you should use the IR tracking. Its far more accurate than the radar lock (+ it doesnt get confused when enemies are flying low to the ground) and it also has thermals. They make spotting planes and helis way easier
Oh hey I remember you. Damn you are persistent. We will get him to play the Lancia, we will. Tho my question is why he always plays the Chinese offbrands of other tanks
Attempt number 49 at getting Spookston to play any tank with a dozer blade, the catch is, he has to dig in before engaging targets. Movement around the map is allowed, but he has to dig in again before reengaging.
@@democracy_enjoyer CAS is for children who never received affection from their parents and who have never experienced accomplishment or a sense of self worth. It is their way of spreading their misery to others.
Holy shit seeing a NL clip while watching a Spookston video is like a fever dream, I love it. We're War Thunder guys, of course we- HEEEELP!! HEEEEELP MEEEEEE HEEEEEEELP!!
Try brining the vehicle you get the fastest nukes in and set a timer just like the cas challenge, and see how many nukes you can get in a certain amount of time with said vehicle.
5:49 im pretty sure the lead indicator is the same as for proxy where it shows lead needed tl hit directly, with AHEAD hitting directly wont let the round fuse so maybe aim slightly infront of the indicator
Attempt 41 Challenge: For high tier support a nations MBT with its respective APC/IFV counterpart (ie Abrams/Bradley, T90/BMP2M, etc.) Challenge is keeping the other player alive and supporting it without stealing kills (breaking barrels, tracking, repairing, etc) it being a random should help make it interesting.
i love the pgz09. it was one of the SPAA's that i got a nuke in (this was back then type 16 fps and other light tank premiums was running around the 8.7 bracket). the gepard is arguably better but this has thermals and IRST for accurate tracking of aerial targets and now AHEAD my only gripe is the -2 degrees of depressoin btw. if if didnt see it. the PGZ09 has IRST which gives a more accurate tracking lead. its Y-1-4 on the selection screen thing
Dearest @Spookston, if you want your lock to be more accurate, try using the IRST mode. That has the additional advantage that RWR cannot warn against it.
29th time challenging Spookston to bring the Char 25t into an 8.3 lineup, and then incrementally increase the BR to find when the tank becomes unironically unplayable.
Gotta love it, when you spawn SPAA, everyone has apparently agreed to play GR. When you spawn quite literally anything else, everyone has determined that they’re actually playing AR.
If you like autocannon light tanks, the AMX-10P is for you, having the crew for the turret in the hull makes it quite hilarious on maps like abandoned factory (the french government is holding me hostage until you play this tank 100% real not fake)
The best strat with SPAAs like that is to wait for the enemy planes to begin their attack runs. They'll have less distance and therefore space to maneuver
My birthday is Sunday but I'll still try to upload something on it
Happy early bday!
Enjoy your birthday!!!
@@Spookston happy early irthday!
This is highy fortunate
Happy Early Birthday
"We cannot fold our radar" *radar then proceeds to fold.
truley a 'huh?" moment
"that is terrible" as the radar finishes folding
*M103 proceeds to fold Spokston
Lmfao was about to comment this same thing
He probably would have mentioned it but then deus ex m103
4:47 "We cannot fold down our radar." **folds down radar**
Spookston is a big baby
You know what tank has only one slug shotgun? The AB-43
I 2nd this. Played it formality, thinking it would a** but my gun this tank is so OP (the ammo explosive is so deceptive).
Sitting @ like (190K/46D)
HEHE, I take him on 8.0 at it(4 kills maxk
Or sdkfz. 222
@@macdonaldakanu369 A fast gun that could able to penetration most vehicle at it br range is always broken.
Ab43 is fun because EVERYTHING will overpen
Only downside however is that you die to 7.62mm
it's funny because now, panic spraying with the Gepard feels a lot like pepper spraying someone because they startled you by saying "hi"
“Now I am become death, the destroyer of CAS.”
-Spookston.
I honestly don't think gaijin modeled the sub-projectiles at all, I think they just have it fire like 10-15 shrapnel forwards in a small cone like a really tiny APHE.
It seems like it also might be a fusing issue since they seem to be detonating at the point of impact for a normal round and not a couple meters before to maximize the shrapnel cone.
I think that's mainly due to performance. Imagine simulating thousands of sub-projectiles. Poor hampster is already overworked
That's pretty much the exact problem, actually. It already happened in naval. When they made a big damage model change about a year ago, their were massive fram-rate drops constantly. What happened was, they increased the amount of fragments that could be modeled per-shell. Once ships started getting hit, the insane amount of shells that needed dozens of fragments to be processed would damn near cripple the server until enough people died. I can only imagine how bad it would be in ground with auto-cannons creating hundreds of fragments per second, multiplied by a few dozen instances of this at any one moment. @@FoquroC31
That + plane damage models are broken as hell.
@@sussinhardrn1048 wonder if you could just project a cone and then spray rays at all enemy geometry hit by the cone
*we cannot fold down our radar*
_radar casually folding down as he says this_
Germany: okay you can copy my homework but dont make it too similar.
China:
that's basically all of the gepard-type aa lmao
Germany does not hold the patent to the Gepard design, Swiss Oerlikon does, as they own the patent of the 35mm gun assembly, which in turn how the turret is designed. Hence why many SPAAG armed with 35mm Oerlikon cannon superficially resembled each other - their turret is designed around the 35mm gun assembly owned by Oerlikon. This does include but not limited to Polish PZA Loara, Type 87 "Guntank", Swiss Fliegerabwehrpanzer 61 prototype, US prototype SPAAG with 35mm gun that lost against the Sergeant York prototype, and of course... this Chinese Gepard :v
Nimm den Stolzmonat Faschisten Dreck aus'm Profilbild und beschmutze unsere Flagge nicht mit dem Mist. Ist peinlich was ihr Möchtegern Patrioten macht was unser Grundgesetz und unsere Flagge besudelt.
What is your profile picture from? WH40k?
The People's Republic of China copies/steals EVERYTHING.
Fun fact, you can switch to irst tracking so the plane you are tracking doesn't know you are locked on to them with the pgz09 (Also can lock with radar dish down)
good for uptiers
Also IRST lock has less sway than regular radar lock, making it more accurate.
Unfortunately the lock with radar down does not work after the update... So they technically shadow nerfed it for some reason
@@Love_Letter_Typewriter except i dont think ahead is able to fuse properly with irst, its not a reliable way of judging distance. you would need radar for that
@@daholl8942 IIRC the PGZ09 has an advanced track radar that allows it to gather range data from IRST. AHEAD works with IRST in game, I checked myself.
Yet another northernlion jumpscare, this man is everywhere
simultaneous juicing and squeezing
Horten Ho-229 without wings
*Mark Felton theme starts playing*
Biblically accurate AHEAD would be devastating
Devastating for the server hamster ? simulating all those AHEAD tungsten balls in the game would def murder the hamster everytime this thing shoots 😆
@@badtoothbeetroot particularly when hitting vehicles.
It's funny that Gepards should be able to use it but gaijin never will add it to it
But they have the stuff on the cannons for it
Had a debate about this in wt forums. Gepard could be upgraded to use them but no gepard was upgraded to the version of the gun that allows ahead (gdf003 is gepards gun, ahead needs like gdf005 and above)@@yamatokurusaki5790
Does ahead really explode vehicles irl either? I've always thought it just damages the airframe so much that it's not possible to repair it, but they can maybe fly for a while.
Ahead may seem a little buggy right now but it's a massive upgrade for two reasons: It has no tracer and allows you to reliably counter ATGM based helicopters.
Much more reliable if you use first and don't ping them with a lock
4:32 Egg jumpscare
I was 8 beers deep when I saw that and thought I was hallucinating.
Egg always pops up where you least expect him to
4:32 The Northernlion meme is highly appreciated
When planes get closer you should use the IR tracking. Its far more accurate than the radar lock (+ it doesnt get confused when enemies are flying low to the ground) and it also has thermals. They make spotting planes and helis way easier
I mean there’s very little reason to use standard radar. It can alert targets and is pretty wonky.
“You can’t fold down the radar this is terrible”
Spookston keeping quiet about his radar being down in the very next frame
Giorno 212 of asking Spookston to play Semovente 75/46 M43.
YOU WILL HAVE TO DO ITALY EVENTUALLY!
In my opinion the 105 one is a little bit sillier, added Armour of the 75 is good tho
Your comment got liked my brother, hopefully a video soon
Spookston acknowledges acknowledge this post by liking it does not do challenge. Better luck next time.
Oh hey I remember you. Damn you are persistent. We will get him to play the Lancia, we will. Tho my question is why he always plays the Chinese offbrands of other tanks
Gajin when trying to put AHEAD properly into the game and being asked how they did it.
"That's False. It's a fabrication. We made it up!"
They russians, its just unknown technology for them.
Thats why Gajin made 2s38 so OP despite it is still experimental
Premium Cv90105 when? 10.0, dm33, scouting, all up your alley?
Spookston saying radar doesn't fold down as the radar folds down is absolute cinema
4:15 one must imagine spookston happy
1:01 - well you pointed and went bruuhhh! And he got express service to the hanger.
Attempt number 49 at getting Spookston to play any tank with a dozer blade, the catch is, he has to dig in before engaging targets. Movement around the map is allowed, but he has to dig in again before reengaging.
7:49 if the lead box is shacking to much on the PGZ-09 just use its IRST its more accurate in my experience
its perfectly accurate with IRST, my Hitrate is so much better on the PGZ than the Gepard just because of it
CAS VID CAS VID CAS VID CAS VID CAS VID CAS VID CAS VID CAS VID
no
YES PLEASE
da
@@kaydengaris3449 no more cas because cas is for low effort plerbs
@@democracy_enjoyer CAS is for children who never received affection from their parents and who have never experienced accomplishment or a sense of self worth. It is their way of spreading their misery to others.
Holy shit seeing a NL clip while watching a Spookston video is like a fever dream, I love it.
We're War Thunder guys, of course we- HEEEELP!! HEEEEELP MEEEEEE HEEEEEEELP!!
Did not expect the Northernlion clip at 4:35
Great vid as always Spookston :)
7:24 is legit one of the best edited clips of war thunder that I ever watched 😂
Try brining the vehicle you get the fastest nukes in and set a timer just like the cas challenge, and see how many nukes you can get in a certain amount of time with said vehicle.
I love that gaijin finally decided to fix something after years of it being broken
Spookie is the best war thunder UA-camr out there
That NL lets kill this guy with hammers bit had me rolling
5:49 im pretty sure the lead indicator is the same as for proxy where it shows lead needed tl hit directly, with AHEAD hitting directly wont let the round fuse so maybe aim slightly infront of the indicator
Attempt 41 Challenge: For high tier support a nations MBT with its respective APC/IFV counterpart (ie Abrams/Bradley, T90/BMP2M, etc.) Challenge is keeping the other player alive and supporting it without stealing kills (breaking barrels, tracking, repairing, etc) it being a random should help make it interesting.
These are my BOOM STICKS
That Northernlion out of nowhere really cracked me up.
NL jumpscare on a spookston video
i love the pgz09. it was one of the SPAA's that i got a nuke in (this was back then type 16 fps and other light tank premiums was running around the 8.7 bracket). the gepard is arguably better but this has thermals and IRST for accurate tracking of aerial targets and now AHEAD
my only gripe is the -2 degrees of depressoin
btw. if if didnt see it. the PGZ09 has IRST which gives a more accurate tracking lead. its Y-1-4 on the selection screen thing
spookston finding excuses to hunt cas: :clueless:
and still 8.3
gepard: this is fine
The Gepard can look down, this thing has like 4 degrees of gun depression.
I know a tank that will get you AHEAD of the game, the fiat 6614
4:54
i love it when spookston turns into popeye from looney toons
I went through hell and back to watch this video2 unskippable 4 minute ads then my internet decides death and boy where big boom sticks worth it
I got 2 AOC ads but preserved.
You can say he was ahead of his game
Switching to IRST instead of the radar track is a lot less wobbly (This is also true for the Type 87)
WTF that NL clip is gold
Bacon
unlimited bacon,
but no games
the NL clip tho. my guy. you are my guy.
You, ODD and Phly in the FOX just be rats
Northernlion jumpscare, guess spookston is a fan
It would be sick if you played the concept 3 if you haven’t already
4:46 we cant fold down our radar, proceeds to fold it down. ohhhhh spooky boi, i love ya man
0:35 I feel targeted
Why? You a rat?
Oh nvm I got more context
Oh nvm I got more context
Germany probably has enough Leopards, well there’s the new Leopard 2A4M!
Day 133 of asking for the Type 74 G
12:55 the Gepard has 640 rounds of ammo, just sins you didn’t double check lil spookie bookie
Day 23 of asking for the ZA-35
ironically, your have to lead AHEAD of the leading cosshair with these shells.
Always happy to see an NL cameo
thanks for that nostalgia inducing c&c generals/zh music.. gotta go play some of that now
11:57 i'm stupidly crying for the "KRAKATOA" voixe effect
Asking Spookston again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, again, to play the Type 74 for the Funny Suspension.
When Northernlion started yelling at 4:31 I thought that one of my other tabs had started playing audio. Pleasantly surprised to see this cross over.
SPAA radar doesn't account for the plane's acceleration, which is probably why all your shells explode behind your target if they're in a dive.
Dearest @Spookston,
if you want your lock to be more accurate, try using the IRST mode. That has the additional advantage that RWR cannot warn against it.
"Why do i always push so aggressively no matter what vehicle I'm in?"
Because the blood craves violence
29th time challenging Spookston to bring the Char 25t into an 8.3 lineup, and then incrementally increase the BR to find when the tank becomes unironically unplayable.
Spookston:> "Would you intercept me? I'd intercept me"
12:03 "Hey top three that's not too bad for an anti-air vehicle" *Laugh in L-62 ANTI*
That's a lowtier
Spookston really avoiding the Breda 501 like it's the plague.
I look away only to get jump scared by a Northernlion cameo
11:30 "AHEAD is a bit up in the air"
Spookston please with the dad jokes
Spookston not firing in front of the lead indicator on planes in level flight/diving is killing me.
Video 68 of asking Spookston to play the LAV-AD with HEAT
Gotta love it, when you spawn SPAA, everyone has apparently agreed to play GR. When you spawn quite literally anything else, everyone has determined that they’re actually playing AR.
Video 28 of asking Spookston to PLEASE play the TO-55
Let’s force spookston to play Arcade battles
1 minute in and we've already had all the standard meme sounds, thoughts, and goober war thunder youtube activity
Video 5 of asking spookston to play the T-10M’s forgotten brother - The T-10A
"When you play SPAA, the planes stay away!"
"the AHEAD is a bit up in the air" oh brother
If you like autocannon light tanks, the AMX-10P is for you, having the crew for the turret in the hull makes it quite hilarious on maps like abandoned factory
(the french government is holding me hostage until you play this tank 100% real not fake)
7:26 "Never should have come here !"
I'm very glad you didn't even give it the common courtesy of its name and just told us what exactly it was.
Happy birthday spookston🎉
It's N to the orthernlion, Northernlion! Love the content spooks the lil jokes and pictures you throw in are great.
AHEAD doesn’t account for acceleration, that’s why it sometimes is consistently behind
Stug
Happy Birthday! Thank you for all the gifts you've given us!
You hella penned my back with this video
Happy birthday Spookston!
3:43 MY MAN
(Command and Conquer music)
Since Gepard is kinda close to Leopard, im calling every Gepard variant the SkillCat, because it CLEARLY takes a LOT of skill.
The best strat with SPAAs like that is to wait for the enemy planes to begin their attack runs. They'll have less distance and therefore space to maneuver
Some of the sound bites are positively unhinged 😂
lost count of how many times asking
asking spookston to play the LOSAT atgm carrier
"shrapnel shell" shrapnel is a bunch of tungsten balls going 1.2km per second
Just witnessed a war crime... RIP Duck...
Hey Spookston, you should play the 15cm sIG 33 B Sfl, 1.0 with a 150mm HE slinging cannon should make for some funny results.