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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @queenkalero
    @queenkalero Рік тому +90

    Should you do an updated beginners series: YES!

    • @phatbman
      @phatbman Рік тому +2

      I'll watch it again!

    • @queenkalero
      @queenkalero Рік тому +3

      @@phatbman I'm sure there are still a million things I have no clue about

    • @phatbman
      @phatbman Рік тому +2

      @@queenkalero oh yeah! There's so much to this

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому +8

      Thank you Queen!

    • @MTheConqueror
      @MTheConqueror Рік тому

      @@EchoRidgeGaming Yes I would also like a complete from start to end series for beginners. I struggle alot on managing everything, even before midgame everything is heated up, I don't have any food and diseases are starting etc...😅 I need guidance on how to play this game properly 😂

  • @queenkalero
    @queenkalero Рік тому +23

    Grumpy tree. Does it's cousin live near Hogwarts?

  • @Pancake_Nix
    @Pancake_Nix Рік тому +8

    Echo, big props for using the term "superheated" properly! :D So many times I hear people saying either that or "supercooled" in relation to things being just regularly hot or cold. But you seem to know that this is an actual *technical term* in thermodynamics that means something has been heated beyond its boiling point without inducing a state-change.
    And I didn't even think about vacuuming out the tree area. I just kinda assumed it being mostly a plant that it will want to stay in some sort of atmosphere. That's way more simple than my solution. :)

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому +3

      Thanks Nix, I do try to get terms correct, but to be honest, I do wiff a lot.

  • @TheAngryForest
    @TheAngryForest Рік тому +13

    How many grumpy trees make an Angry Forest? Thanks for another great video Echo!

  • @XaqNautilus
    @XaqNautilus Рік тому +8

    Nice to see you highlight the table about 52B on the wiki. I recently put a lot of effort into making it as good as it is.

  • @louishermann7676
    @louishermann7676 Рік тому +7

    Deep frozen food in a vacuum is how I've been colonizing other planetoids without having to set up a deep freezer on each one. Just launch it cold and have the output of the payload opener drop it off on an airflow tile in vacuum.

  • @NoMusiciansInMusicAnymore
    @NoMusiciansInMusicAnymore Рік тому +24

    It's funny, I have 1500 hours in oni and still get a lot from your video's... as well as the entertainment value. Thank you for the effort you put in. It is worth noting that if you make a liquid lock with the visco gel that's 3 tiles high but starting from 1 tile below the "floor" then the dupes, without suits, will hop over/through it and not get soggy feet. Also yes, yes yo should absolutely do a new beginners series given all the changes since the last edition!

  • @apersonwhoisalsohuman2014
    @apersonwhoisalsohuman2014 Рік тому +5

    12:06 Hungry echo

  • @nazgu1
    @nazgu1 Рік тому +9

    Echo, whenever you ask a question "Should I do a series about X to achieve the goal Y", the answer is always YES. For example, you could start this updated ABONI series (Absolute Beginner ONI) with a detailed overview of the starting biomes/traits.

  • @shadowshifter5348
    @shadowshifter5348 Рік тому +5

    It would be really cool to have a liquid lock tutorial, I haven't been able to figure out those two tile locks

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому +2

      Adding this to the list. Thank you for the recommendation/ask.

  • @Misteri0123
    @Misteri0123 Рік тому +1

    I thought I've seen this video last week-
    Guess the ONI content drains my sense of time without even playing it, lol.

  • @ogcipher4967
    @ogcipher4967 Рік тому +1

    my blind ass thought that tree had gosh damn turets attached to it

  • @ekimmak
    @ekimmak Рік тому

    I've seen a completely hands-free build for the Experiment, where it uses Pacu Eggs cracked into omelettes on the tree, boils the resin, and uses the excess water to feed an electrolyzer.
    It's not *easy* to work with, and the foodstuff could be better but it does have the advantage of not needing duplicants working at the kitchen stove 24/7.

    • @ekimmak
      @ekimmak Рік тому

      It used a wild arbor tree nursery manned by Pips to feed a compact Pacu ranch, with systems to ensure that it would only keep eggs when it needed them. The eggs were kept in storage in a high temperature box, which ensures when the eggs crack it goes straight to omelette, no need for raw egg. The tree was in a vacuum, kept at high temperatures with liquid pipes running through the tile it sat on, and auto-sweepers would move any rotten food out of the room before it messed up the vacuum.
      I saw this build on the official Klei forums for ONI, so if you're interest in the build, that's where you look. I think it was called the Expilement?

  • @flaffel3842
    @flaffel3842 Рік тому

    An updated beginners guide would be awesome. I watched your videos back in the day to try to get a hang of the game and I definitely could use them to get back into it

  • @maxstr
    @maxstr 9 місяців тому

    Packed snacks could work well here, too. Make a ton of quality foods and dehydrate them, then ship them over to the tree planet to rehydrate. All you need is power and water

  • @brendanmassaro9595
    @brendanmassaro9595 Рік тому +4

    A cool follow up video would be way(s) to make a self contained resin producer that does not need resources from another planet and no dupe maintenance or cooking.

    • @KiloKhanMax
      @KiloKhanMax Рік тому

      Does simple exposure to temperature still cause meat to turn into BBQ? It would be very cool to see a resin boiling system with a meat auto-cooker attached to the loop.

    • @queenkalero
      @queenkalero Рік тому +1

      @@KiloKhanMax wait? Ambient heat can turn meat to BBQ. This I've got to see

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому

      Hehe, all critters have a max temp. The issue might be that the tree, as it also has a max temp too. (100c)

    • @matthewbauerle7153
      @matthewbauerle7153 Рік тому +1

      @@queenkaleroI don’t think so. I think what he’s mistaking it for is omelettes. If an egg loses all viability at a high temp it will drop an omelette instead of raw egg.

    • @queenkalero
      @queenkalero Рік тому

      @@matthewbauerle7153 aww and here I was hoping for automated cooking

  • @JoachimVampire
    @JoachimVampire Рік тому +2

    this game never caught my attention, i used to see videos of people just starting and it was never that interesting, but seeing how much you can automate... this starts to kick my interest. let me be honest if you make a beginers series i would totally see it and perhaps give the game a chance. kinda promises a lot of potential fun. (of course, subscribed and liked it)

  • @Redneck353
    @Redneck353 Місяць тому

    got lucky, my first encounter was "entoumbed" in it's own resin 🤣

  • @theeraphatsunthornwit6266
    @theeraphatsunthornwit6266 Рік тому +1

    Cute organism 😅

  • @chip4039
    @chip4039 Рік тому +2

    I'm a rimworld player and still found this interesting!

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому

      I need to do another rimworld playthrough :)

    • @chip4039
      @chip4039 Рік тому

      @@EchoRidgeGaming hehe. It's good fun isn't it. Maybe I should try ONI someday

  • @dubstepgs9784
    @dubstepgs9784 Рік тому +1

    Any reason why the grumpy tree room cannot be a steam room to instantly flash the resin to isoresin if you're gonna feed it with berry sludge anyways?Either that or vacuum the room I guess and make that tile that the food drops a fridge tile at -60 and never worry about it

  • @jy02521671
    @jy02521671 Рік тому +3

    Duplicants can only submit scans from outside of the room, in case anyone tried to build ladder inside the room and couldn't open the second security door.

  • @matthewbauerle7153
    @matthewbauerle7153 Рік тому

    The giving tree but it steals the boy’s lunch.

  • @RichPhillibob
    @RichPhillibob Рік тому +4

    God, your voice is so soothing 😅

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому +1

      Thank you, this is something I don't hear often ha.

  • @zekeking
    @zekeking 6 місяців тому

    Now that raw egg is edible as of update U48-567980 in August 2023, I wonder was the tree also updated to be able to eat raw egg?

  • @TheGalifrey
    @TheGalifrey Рік тому

    The Tree Balance is way off so I use "Better Isoresin Tree" Mod, at least with that you can actually build big stuff with insulation way before cycle 2000 🤣 Good video though, covered all the bases. Food wise I find that Berry Sludge with a side order of Pacu Fillets from Infinite farm (like you mentioned) does the trick with minimal dupe labour.

  • @FantaSteve
    @FantaSteve Рік тому +3

    Very hungry tree

  • @not_just_burnt
    @not_just_burnt Рік тому

    i gave up on the tree tbh... i do make some amount of insulation for sour gas boilers and what not, but never a substantial amount. still leaving the most crazy builds for the base game

  • @TheMule71
    @TheMule71 Рік тому +3

    Nice tutorial.
    Have they fixed the resing boiling bug? You used to be forced using a valve and a radiant pipe because otherwise you loose mass in the resin -> isoresin convertion (you get less than expected).

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому +1

      I have not seen this issue in a long time (blatantly), but I haven't tested either.

    • @TheGalifrey
      @TheGalifrey Рік тому

      I just drop it in my hot industrial brick to boil and once the pressure goes above 20k I syphon off the output from the Steam Turbines into my cool steam vent rooms.

  • @lazypug-hayud
    @lazypug-hayud Рік тому

    7:42 this voice crack XD

  • @Denamic
    @Denamic Рік тому

    Insulated tiles made out of insulation is actually 100 times better than abyssalite. Insulation has the same thermal conductivity as abyssalite at 0.00001; too low to display in game. But insulated tiles divides a material's thermal conductivity by 100, so insulated tiles made with insulation has a thermal conductivity of 0.0000001. They can basically block the thermal energy of the sun in the sun.

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому

      100%. "They can basically block the thermal energy of the sun in the sun" haha. Love it.

  • @tehmessiah5617
    @tehmessiah5617 Рік тому

    Very nice tutorial Echo 👍

  • @Damglador
    @Damglador Рік тому

    I dont feed shine bugs and my shine bug research reactor feeling great

  • @grezamisoit
    @grezamisoit Рік тому

    Excellent!

  • @jeckrucel0001
    @jeckrucel0001 Рік тому

    you should use a little tag in the thumbnail of the video to indicate that the content on it, is a SO exclusive content.

  • @matthewreed6568
    @matthewreed6568 Рік тому

    If you brought Volve eggs and fish eggs over, could you make a starvation ranch with some automation to feed the tree?

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому

      Absolutely, the sky is the limit, especially with starvation farming.

  • @Joeyjoejoe1708
    @Joeyjoejoe1708 Рік тому

    Thank you.

  • @Suchar89
    @Suchar89 Рік тому

    Hi i like your video and I have question could you make a tutorial about a Divergent and Grubfruit plant. Greatings from Poland

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому

      Greetings from South Carolina! I will absolutely add divergent species to the list.

  • @SaintGerbilUK
    @SaintGerbilUK Рік тому +1

    Is it possible to have the tree in an industrial sauna so it just drops isoresin or is the juice not worth the squeeze?

    • @Elphealer
      @Elphealer Рік тому +2

      The tree doesn't work above a temperature (100° if I remember well)

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому +1

      @Elphealer is correct. 100C is the trees max temp.

  • @bexleytychus344
    @bexleytychus344 Рік тому

    What even is the lore behind this funky tree?

  • @jesserobertson8397
    @jesserobertson8397 Рік тому

    I call it the wack wack tree

  • @Redneck353
    @Redneck353 Місяць тому

    Is there an update on the "infinite pacu farm"? that one been nerfed for a bit i think

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Місяць тому +1

      Infinite pacu farm no longer works due to critter getting cramped differently. The system will work, it just won't maintain the same amount of pacu.

    • @Redneck353
      @Redneck353 Місяць тому

      @@EchoRidgeGaming but is there a better/simpler way of doing it? or it's still the same meta just less effective?

  • @DRY411S
    @DRY411S Рік тому

    Regarding the food value calculation, aren't there 3 meal lice in a pickled meal jar, so the value is the same?

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому +1

      Yes, very true. But remember the tree (and thus you) does not care about what it took to make the food and is only concerned how much mass it has.

  • @paulmoulard8441
    @paulmoulard8441 Рік тому

    Hello, i have a quick qustion :
    All my dupes dieds because of starvation ( calories available, but they rather die than disobey a not eat command ). i am slowly restarting everything.
    Do ou have any tips for when all my dupes dies ? other than restart the game of course ^^
    what are tombstones used for ? how to avoid power collapse, what to priorise ?

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому

      I think the only way would be to start reprinting dupes from the printing pod. Tombstones are used for burying the dupes and the other dupes will be able to mourn and feel better once they bury their friend.

  • @Elphealer
    @Elphealer Рік тому

    Sorry I didn't get the end :
    We really need to build isolation tiles with insulation ? Or normal tile are enough for this material ?

    • @notalkmeimangyy
      @notalkmeimangyy Рік тому

      Insulation is best for the tiles, but you can make it out of other materials. It just prevents heat transfer better and can handle higher temps.

    • @EchoRidgeGaming
      @EchoRidgeGaming  Рік тому +1

      We will touch on this in a future tutorial even more. @theaetherboss is right. Insulation insulated tiles are the absolute best, but standard Insulation tiles are pretty good in their own right. But they lake the "insulated" tag that appears on insulated tiles that majorly impacts heat transfer. Long story short, standard tiles made out of insulation still transfer heat (in very small amounts) but insulated tiles made out of insulation transfer 0 heat.

  • @WharGhoul_
    @WharGhoul_ Рік тому

    How much resin do you get if the tree eats a Dupe?

  • @largato12345
    @largato12345 4 місяці тому

    Infinite pacu now doesn't work anymore..

    • @lairasan7467
      @lairasan7467 2 місяці тому

      you can do balm lilies for the seeds and then just ranch pacus and maybe slicksters if u got a Co2 vent
      with slicksters you also solve the limited water problem on the planetoid

    • @largato12345
      @largato12345 2 місяці тому

      @@lairasan7467 yeah, but it's considerably more hassle

  • @wdg5555
    @wdg5555 Рік тому

    Disappointed you didn't cover frozen food and feeding the tree in a vacuum...putting food on the center tile can freeze the tree and then your tree gets entombed when producing resin.

  • @chuckironsight3914
    @chuckironsight3914 Рік тому +1

    read that as foreskin tutorial, meh , guess ill stick around anyway

  • @KiloKhanMax
    @KiloKhanMax Рік тому +1

    Yay! First!

  • @beekey9501
    @beekey9501 2 місяці тому

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  • @Redneck353
    @Redneck353 Місяць тому

    14:22 wait a minute, need to produce enough sludge for 72 dupes per cycle to feed the tree? geez.....