Echo, big props for using the term "superheated" properly! :D So many times I hear people saying either that or "supercooled" in relation to things being just regularly hot or cold. But you seem to know that this is an actual *technical term* in thermodynamics that means something has been heated beyond its boiling point without inducing a state-change. And I didn't even think about vacuuming out the tree area. I just kinda assumed it being mostly a plant that it will want to stay in some sort of atmosphere. That's way more simple than my solution. :)
@@EchoRidgeGaming Yes I would also like a complete from start to end series for beginners. I struggle alot on managing everything, even before midgame everything is heated up, I don't have any food and diseases are starting etc...😅 I need guidance on how to play this game properly 😂
It's funny, I have 1500 hours in oni and still get a lot from your video's... as well as the entertainment value. Thank you for the effort you put in. It is worth noting that if you make a liquid lock with the visco gel that's 3 tiles high but starting from 1 tile below the "floor" then the dupes, without suits, will hop over/through it and not get soggy feet. Also yes, yes yo should absolutely do a new beginners series given all the changes since the last edition!
Deep frozen food in a vacuum is how I've been colonizing other planetoids without having to set up a deep freezer on each one. Just launch it cold and have the output of the payload opener drop it off on an airflow tile in vacuum.
Echo, whenever you ask a question "Should I do a series about X to achieve the goal Y", the answer is always YES. For example, you could start this updated ABONI series (Absolute Beginner ONI) with a detailed overview of the starting biomes/traits.
A cool follow up video would be way(s) to make a self contained resin producer that does not need resources from another planet and no dupe maintenance or cooking.
Does simple exposure to temperature still cause meat to turn into BBQ? It would be very cool to see a resin boiling system with a meat auto-cooker attached to the loop.
@@queenkaleroI don’t think so. I think what he’s mistaking it for is omelettes. If an egg loses all viability at a high temp it will drop an omelette instead of raw egg.
An updated beginners guide would be awesome. I watched your videos back in the day to try to get a hang of the game and I definitely could use them to get back into it
Any reason why the grumpy tree room cannot be a steam room to instantly flash the resin to isoresin if you're gonna feed it with berry sludge anyways?Either that or vacuum the room I guess and make that tile that the food drops a fridge tile at -60 and never worry about it
this game never caught my attention, i used to see videos of people just starting and it was never that interesting, but seeing how much you can automate... this starts to kick my interest. let me be honest if you make a beginers series i would totally see it and perhaps give the game a chance. kinda promises a lot of potential fun. (of course, subscribed and liked it)
I've seen a completely hands-free build for the Experiment, where it uses Pacu Eggs cracked into omelettes on the tree, boils the resin, and uses the excess water to feed an electrolyzer. It's not *easy* to work with, and the foodstuff could be better but it does have the advantage of not needing duplicants working at the kitchen stove 24/7.
It used a wild arbor tree nursery manned by Pips to feed a compact Pacu ranch, with systems to ensure that it would only keep eggs when it needed them. The eggs were kept in storage in a high temperature box, which ensures when the eggs crack it goes straight to omelette, no need for raw egg. The tree was in a vacuum, kept at high temperatures with liquid pipes running through the tile it sat on, and auto-sweepers would move any rotten food out of the room before it messed up the vacuum. I saw this build on the official Klei forums for ONI, so if you're interest in the build, that's where you look. I think it was called the Expilement?
Packed snacks could work well here, too. Make a ton of quality foods and dehydrate them, then ship them over to the tree planet to rehydrate. All you need is power and water
Nice tutorial. Have they fixed the resing boiling bug? You used to be forced using a valve and a radiant pipe because otherwise you loose mass in the resin -> isoresin convertion (you get less than expected).
I just drop it in my hot industrial brick to boil and once the pressure goes above 20k I syphon off the output from the Steam Turbines into my cool steam vent rooms.
Duplicants can only submit scans from outside of the room, in case anyone tried to build ladder inside the room and couldn't open the second security door.
The Tree Balance is way off so I use "Better Isoresin Tree" Mod, at least with that you can actually build big stuff with insulation way before cycle 2000 🤣 Good video though, covered all the bases. Food wise I find that Berry Sludge with a side order of Pacu Fillets from Infinite farm (like you mentioned) does the trick with minimal dupe labour.
Insulated tiles made out of insulation is actually 100 times better than abyssalite. Insulation has the same thermal conductivity as abyssalite at 0.00001; too low to display in game. But insulated tiles divides a material's thermal conductivity by 100, so insulated tiles made with insulation has a thermal conductivity of 0.0000001. They can basically block the thermal energy of the sun in the sun.
Hello, i have a quick qustion : All my dupes dieds because of starvation ( calories available, but they rather die than disobey a not eat command ). i am slowly restarting everything. Do ou have any tips for when all my dupes dies ? other than restart the game of course ^^ what are tombstones used for ? how to avoid power collapse, what to priorise ?
I think the only way would be to start reprinting dupes from the printing pod. Tombstones are used for burying the dupes and the other dupes will be able to mourn and feel better once they bury their friend.
We will touch on this in a future tutorial even more. @theaetherboss is right. Insulation insulated tiles are the absolute best, but standard Insulation tiles are pretty good in their own right. But they lake the "insulated" tag that appears on insulated tiles that majorly impacts heat transfer. Long story short, standard tiles made out of insulation still transfer heat (in very small amounts) but insulated tiles made out of insulation transfer 0 heat.
i gave up on the tree tbh... i do make some amount of insulation for sour gas boilers and what not, but never a substantial amount. still leaving the most crazy builds for the base game
Disappointed you didn't cover frozen food and feeding the tree in a vacuum...putting food on the center tile can freeze the tree and then your tree gets entombed when producing resin.
you can do balm lilies for the seeds and then just ranch pacus and maybe slicksters if u got a Co2 vent with slicksters you also solve the limited water problem on the planetoid
Grumpy tree. Does it's cousin live near Hogwarts?
Haha. Comment of the week.
Echo, big props for using the term "superheated" properly! :D So many times I hear people saying either that or "supercooled" in relation to things being just regularly hot or cold. But you seem to know that this is an actual *technical term* in thermodynamics that means something has been heated beyond its boiling point without inducing a state-change.
And I didn't even think about vacuuming out the tree area. I just kinda assumed it being mostly a plant that it will want to stay in some sort of atmosphere. That's way more simple than my solution. :)
Thanks Nix, I do try to get terms correct, but to be honest, I do wiff a lot.
Should you do an updated beginners series: YES!
I'll watch it again!
@@phatbman I'm sure there are still a million things I have no clue about
@@queenkalero oh yeah! There's so much to this
Thank you Queen!
@@EchoRidgeGaming Yes I would also like a complete from start to end series for beginners. I struggle alot on managing everything, even before midgame everything is heated up, I don't have any food and diseases are starting etc...😅 I need guidance on how to play this game properly 😂
How many grumpy trees make an Angry Forest? Thanks for another great video Echo!
12:06 Hungry echo
Nice job catching the Hidden Echo.
It's funny, I have 1500 hours in oni and still get a lot from your video's... as well as the entertainment value. Thank you for the effort you put in. It is worth noting that if you make a liquid lock with the visco gel that's 3 tiles high but starting from 1 tile below the "floor" then the dupes, without suits, will hop over/through it and not get soggy feet. Also yes, yes yo should absolutely do a new beginners series given all the changes since the last edition!
Thank you for the feedback and comment.
Deep frozen food in a vacuum is how I've been colonizing other planetoids without having to set up a deep freezer on each one. Just launch it cold and have the output of the payload opener drop it off on an airflow tile in vacuum.
I like this.
Nice to see you highlight the table about 52B on the wiki. I recently put a lot of effort into making it as good as it is.
Well done. Thank you much for your efforts!
my blind ass thought that tree had gosh damn turets attached to it
Now I can't unsee it ha.
Echo, whenever you ask a question "Should I do a series about X to achieve the goal Y", the answer is always YES. For example, you could start this updated ABONI series (Absolute Beginner ONI) with a detailed overview of the starting biomes/traits.
Thanks for the feedback Nazgul.
I thought I've seen this video last week-
Guess the ONI content drains my sense of time without even playing it, lol.
A cool follow up video would be way(s) to make a self contained resin producer that does not need resources from another planet and no dupe maintenance or cooking.
Does simple exposure to temperature still cause meat to turn into BBQ? It would be very cool to see a resin boiling system with a meat auto-cooker attached to the loop.
@@StupidSexyStreamer wait? Ambient heat can turn meat to BBQ. This I've got to see
Hehe, all critters have a max temp. The issue might be that the tree, as it also has a max temp too. (100c)
@@queenkaleroI don’t think so. I think what he’s mistaking it for is omelettes. If an egg loses all viability at a high temp it will drop an omelette instead of raw egg.
@@matthewbauerle7153 aww and here I was hoping for automated cooking
God, your voice is so soothing 😅
Thank you, this is something I don't hear often ha.
It would be really cool to have a liquid lock tutorial, I haven't been able to figure out those two tile locks
Adding this to the list. Thank you for the recommendation/ask.
An updated beginners guide would be awesome. I watched your videos back in the day to try to get a hang of the game and I definitely could use them to get back into it
Any reason why the grumpy tree room cannot be a steam room to instantly flash the resin to isoresin if you're gonna feed it with berry sludge anyways?Either that or vacuum the room I guess and make that tile that the food drops a fridge tile at -60 and never worry about it
this game never caught my attention, i used to see videos of people just starting and it was never that interesting, but seeing how much you can automate... this starts to kick my interest. let me be honest if you make a beginers series i would totally see it and perhaps give the game a chance. kinda promises a lot of potential fun. (of course, subscribed and liked it)
I've seen a completely hands-free build for the Experiment, where it uses Pacu Eggs cracked into omelettes on the tree, boils the resin, and uses the excess water to feed an electrolyzer.
It's not *easy* to work with, and the foodstuff could be better but it does have the advantage of not needing duplicants working at the kitchen stove 24/7.
It used a wild arbor tree nursery manned by Pips to feed a compact Pacu ranch, with systems to ensure that it would only keep eggs when it needed them. The eggs were kept in storage in a high temperature box, which ensures when the eggs crack it goes straight to omelette, no need for raw egg. The tree was in a vacuum, kept at high temperatures with liquid pipes running through the tile it sat on, and auto-sweepers would move any rotten food out of the room before it messed up the vacuum.
I saw this build on the official Klei forums for ONI, so if you're interest in the build, that's where you look. I think it was called the Expilement?
Packed snacks could work well here, too. Make a ton of quality foods and dehydrate them, then ship them over to the tree planet to rehydrate. All you need is power and water
Cute organism 😅
Nice tutorial.
Have they fixed the resing boiling bug? You used to be forced using a valve and a radiant pipe because otherwise you loose mass in the resin -> isoresin convertion (you get less than expected).
I have not seen this issue in a long time (blatantly), but I haven't tested either.
I just drop it in my hot industrial brick to boil and once the pressure goes above 20k I syphon off the output from the Steam Turbines into my cool steam vent rooms.
7:42 this voice crack XD
I'm a rimworld player and still found this interesting!
I need to do another rimworld playthrough :)
@@EchoRidgeGaming hehe. It's good fun isn't it. Maybe I should try ONI someday
Very hungry tree
Indeed!
nom nom nom
@@EchoRidgeGaming nom nom nom
*I NEED MORE CALORIES*
nom nom nom
Now that raw egg is edible as of update U48-567980 in August 2023, I wonder was the tree also updated to be able to eat raw egg?
Excellent!
got lucky, my first encounter was "entoumbed" in it's own resin 🤣
The giving tree but it steals the boy’s lunch.
Duplicants can only submit scans from outside of the room, in case anyone tried to build ladder inside the room and couldn't open the second security door.
you should use a little tag in the thumbnail of the video to indicate that the content on it, is a SO exclusive content.
Very nice tutorial Echo 👍
Thank you @tehmessiah5617.
Is it possible to have the tree in an industrial sauna so it just drops isoresin or is the juice not worth the squeeze?
The tree doesn't work above a temperature (100° if I remember well)
@Elphealer is correct. 100C is the trees max temp.
The Tree Balance is way off so I use "Better Isoresin Tree" Mod, at least with that you can actually build big stuff with insulation way before cycle 2000 🤣 Good video though, covered all the bases. Food wise I find that Berry Sludge with a side order of Pacu Fillets from Infinite farm (like you mentioned) does the trick with minimal dupe labour.
Insulated tiles made out of insulation is actually 100 times better than abyssalite. Insulation has the same thermal conductivity as abyssalite at 0.00001; too low to display in game. But insulated tiles divides a material's thermal conductivity by 100, so insulated tiles made with insulation has a thermal conductivity of 0.0000001. They can basically block the thermal energy of the sun in the sun.
100%. "They can basically block the thermal energy of the sun in the sun" haha. Love it.
If you brought Volve eggs and fish eggs over, could you make a starvation ranch with some automation to feed the tree?
Absolutely, the sky is the limit, especially with starvation farming.
Is there an update on the "infinite pacu farm"? that one been nerfed for a bit i think
Infinite pacu farm no longer works due to critter getting cramped differently. The system will work, it just won't maintain the same amount of pacu.
@@EchoRidgeGaming but is there a better/simpler way of doing it? or it's still the same meta just less effective?
Hello, i have a quick qustion :
All my dupes dieds because of starvation ( calories available, but they rather die than disobey a not eat command ). i am slowly restarting everything.
Do ou have any tips for when all my dupes dies ? other than restart the game of course ^^
what are tombstones used for ? how to avoid power collapse, what to priorise ?
I think the only way would be to start reprinting dupes from the printing pod. Tombstones are used for burying the dupes and the other dupes will be able to mourn and feel better once they bury their friend.
Regarding the food value calculation, aren't there 3 meal lice in a pickled meal jar, so the value is the same?
Yes, very true. But remember the tree (and thus you) does not care about what it took to make the food and is only concerned how much mass it has.
Sorry I didn't get the end :
We really need to build isolation tiles with insulation ? Or normal tile are enough for this material ?
Insulation is best for the tiles, but you can make it out of other materials. It just prevents heat transfer better and can handle higher temps.
We will touch on this in a future tutorial even more. @theaetherboss is right. Insulation insulated tiles are the absolute best, but standard Insulation tiles are pretty good in their own right. But they lake the "insulated" tag that appears on insulated tiles that majorly impacts heat transfer. Long story short, standard tiles made out of insulation still transfer heat (in very small amounts) but insulated tiles made out of insulation transfer 0 heat.
14:22 wait a minute, need to produce enough sludge for 72 dupes per cycle to feed the tree? geez.....
i gave up on the tree tbh... i do make some amount of insulation for sour gas boilers and what not, but never a substantial amount. still leaving the most crazy builds for the base game
Thank you.
Thank you and you are welcome. :)
What even is the lore behind this funky tree?
Very good point. I need to do a lore video.
Hi i like your video and I have question could you make a tutorial about a Divergent and Grubfruit plant. Greatings from Poland
Greetings from South Carolina! I will absolutely add divergent species to the list.
I dont feed shine bugs and my shine bug research reactor feeling great
How much resin do you get if the tree eats a Dupe?
I call it the wack wack tree
I like it!
Disappointed you didn't cover frozen food and feeding the tree in a vacuum...putting food on the center tile can freeze the tree and then your tree gets entombed when producing resin.
Infinite pacu now doesn't work anymore..
you can do balm lilies for the seeds and then just ranch pacus and maybe slicksters if u got a Co2 vent
with slicksters you also solve the limited water problem on the planetoid
@@lairasan7467 yeah, but it's considerably more hassle
read that as foreskin tutorial, meh , guess ill stick around anyway
lol.
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