Massa Battles Kubica | 2007 Japanese Grand Prix
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- Onboard with Felipe Massa as he has an epic battle in the wet with Robert Kubica
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With today's regulations, they would have been sentenced to prison by the FIA
Perfeito!
Kkkkk this comment was the best and it is Sad but true
with today's regulations they'd have been sat in the pitlane under red flag
the race probably wouldn't even happen in this kind of rain hahaha
@@Wizzkidwas bang on. currently watching Japan GP 2022 and they are infact in the pitlane with restart suspended.
What I love about this battle is that Massa and Kubica both saw each other afterwards and said 'That was fun'.
I expected the last part of the video showing them having fun together
Both drivers shook hands in the pit lane after this. Good battle! 👍
That's absolutely true, they actually did talk and shook hands afterwards! What great sportsmanship we had back then. Now it's all about penalty points and bickering on twitter.
Spa 2021: 3 laps under safety car, then race suspended
Also 2021: Cars have no ABS and No Traction Control, the tyres don't create even close to the same level of spray,... Different times require different measures
They had traction control back then
Beh hai ragione lol
@@TheDFreitas23 This is true, what I meant was that the FIA want races to be thrilling and safe but now cars can't even stay on track in wet conditions
@@TheDFreitas23 in 2007 car wasnt have ABS
That's what I call FORMULA ONE!
BOTECO F1 realmente muito mais emocionante.
E sem mimimi hj até temos algumas boas lutas por posição mas a choradeira no rádio é de mais fora as punições que receberiam.
Meu fanático de Piquet favorito :v Boteco F1
BOTECO F1 as opposed to what exactly? It's ALL what we call FORMULA ONE.
The farawy time could drive under high rain... Now they race behind safety car...
The gloves, the helmet, the barcode livery, the steering wheel, the sound...gives me goosebumps on my entire body even 10 years later. Really thankful for the memories f1, ferrari and massa, the uncrowned f1 champion, gave me
That's when F1 was actually F1.
@@koko400gt you do know that almost the entire was was under a safety car. In face the first 18 to 20 laps were. Meaning around 40 mins of SC before the actuall start.
@@ItsABeautifulDay. yeah... This year this wouldve been race canceled...
@@brm3175 true indeed from 2014 until nowdays i never saw F1 racing in this wet conditions
@@ChristianWoolff brazil 2016?
*- PENALTY TO FORCING ANOTHER DRIVER OUT OF THE TRACK.*
*- PENALTY TO FORCING ANOTHER DRIVER OUT OF THE TRACK.*
*- PENALTY TO FORCING ANOTHER DRIVER OUT OF THE TRACK.*
*- PENALTY TO FORCING ANOTHER DRIVER OUT OF THE TRACK.*
*- PENALTY TO FORCING ANOTHER DRIVER OUT OF THE TRACK.*
Then, Takuma Sato won.
PENALTY FOR EXCESIVE BREATHING WHILE RACING.
PENALTY FOR EXCESIVE BREATHING WHILE RACING.
PENALTY FOR EXCESIVE BREATHING WHILE RACING.
Ehh yess, ofcourse. You like this way of racing, not giving each other any space at all? Sure, no one likes the stewards having to intervene but this way, battles wont last more than one corner except when there is enough run-off and the track comes back towards you so you're basically cutting the track and continuing the fight. Other than that, battles last 1 corner which really isn't fun to watch at all
Sato would be the first Japanese man to win in formula one if he actually won a race.
No penalty, because "Race cancelled because of rain"
@@rensvanampting234 then you should watch the greatest battle ever : Arboux VS Villeneuve. THIS is racing
Here after 2021 Austria GP, 1000000 milions sec penalty for those guys!
Here after 2021 Belgian GP, 0 penalties, because no racing at all.
And righteously so. This wasn't a battle, this was a farse, just like yesterday's "race".
Running other driver off the track is anything but a battle. It stops any battle from happening.
@@ErwinLiszkowicz lolololol XDDDDDD
This guy is crazy!
Robert Kubica gg
mental guy
Jak Hamilton w pit stopie się z nim stuknie, to tak :)
Robert Kubica trzymamy kciuki
ulubionym torem Roberta jest Suzuka właśnie w Japonii. Generalnie tory uliczne to jest to, co najbardziej lubi Robert.
In 2017 there would 10 penalties for that and 20 laps behind the safety car until its time for inters
Vectro666 they woupd cancel race. For that overtaking seb and ham would start to cry
In fact, in this race they stayed 40 minutes and completed 18 laps behind the SC.
Sad, but true
*- PENALTY TO FORCING ANOTHER DRIVER OUT OF THE TRACK.*
*- PENALTY TO FORCING ANOTHER DRIVER OUT OF THE TRACK.*
*- PENALTY TO FORCING ANOTHER DRIVER OUT OF THE TRACK.*
*- PENALTY TO FORCING ANOTHER DRIVER OUT OF THE TRACK.*
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Then, Takuma Sato won.
And the blue flags, don't forget the blue flags
The good old days... pure racing.
>Pure racing
>Traction control
Pick one
if you think this is pure racing you need help
@@arjungnanavel509 weak
@@arjungnanavel509 you need help my guy
@@arjungnanavel509weak kid
And this is the reason he's coming back
sadly, he wont ever be as good anymore. its been too much time...
Back and didn’t do ANYTHING ahhhhahh
Gabriel Ramos because of the car?
samcastles No, because of him actually, he was out qualified by Russel 21-0 , so it’s his fault......
@@XxJapinhaXx97 @samcastles haha u guys come from WTF1 video too??
Thats some serious Traction Control.
Legendäres Item aus Pandora 2007 was the first year without tc and abs
Ariel Almeida nope, 2008 was the first season without TC. In 2007 they still had TC.
You, actually, can hear TC working
Yeah, you guys right, my bad
Ariel Almeida no worries mate
Spettacolo! Grande Felipe, grande Robert. Duello fantastico che ha nobilitato le corse di F1
uh oh spaghettios!
@@m0rtalwombat sneed
This are worse conditions than Spa today
but much braver drivers
@@Yorgos2007 nope, they just had traction control and cars didn't leave nearly as much of a cloud behind themselves contrary to current cars.
@@ErwinLiszkowicz tha visibility is poorer and the rain is much heavier than spa 2021, and if theres no traction control drive slower, no one wants u to put pedal to the floor.
The drivers today are babies.
@@preritsharma4203 kekw, you have no clue about what you're talking about. Behind the SC the visibility was worse than in this video, but sure... you know better 😂
@@ErwinLiszkowicz ohhh dont take my word for it, Take Max’s word during the first safety car stint. I guess u know better than him. He even said it during the after race show, it was quite possible to get a race if they started just half an hour earlier. But i guess u know better.
And regarding racing in the rain, there are countless examples in the past 2 decades where Formula 1 has raced in much worse conditions.
who’s here after they keep mentioning this race at the belgium gp
Talk about track limits 😂
TBF people be like "oh this is formula 1", i like being competitive but massa was just so dirty, and then kubica got mad and started going dirty aswell so it was pure chaos. Although it was interesting, this is just not right...
@@CrakBBCL I blame the rain, Massa did mistakes that i do in F1 games, he tries to overtake someone on the rain but he, not intentionaly, pushes the driver out of the track
Who gives a shit about track limits.
@@CrakBBCL 0:53 - Massa was on the track when he used all the space to not let Kubica overtake him, but then, Kubica, coming from the grass, push Massa out of the track. Two different situations here. If Kubica have had done that while on the track, ok, fair... but no, he came from the grass, crossed the track and pushed Massa out of it. This is being dirty.
@@marcioaguiar1985 Not true, Massa pushes Kubica out of the track while being behind him, this is not allowed by the rules, he had to give him space there.
we will never see anything like this in f1 ever again
and today, 2021 Belgian GP cancelled because of rain
Seriously it was a disgrace, the weather was not this bad, they were just scared of an incident. If you are going to be this scared, stop racing in the rain altogther.
We will never see such a fight on Formula 1 tracks anymore
Who are here after todays Belgium GP 🇧🇪🇯🇵
Welll i was before begium gp bruh
In 0:34 I thought - OK, he overtook him, and?
In 0:42 I realized it's Kubica we're talking about!
This is the BEST F1 Battle EVER.
Watching at this video while waiting to restart (won't happen) Suzuka 2022. I miss when we could see water races.
Where is the Safety Car? Ah.. It's in 2007 when the F1 had balls
Not so much balls but traction control...
Ok but now if there is this weather the race will be under SC or stopped
nowadays a race in these conditions would be red flagged for hours
EmSpro according to who? You? Lol
PS3GameProductions Canada 2011. Malaysia 2012. Japan 2014. Brazil 2016.
Spa-Francorchamps 2021
here after spa 2021
Piękna walka cudowne czasy .... dziękuję Robert
The best battle in the rain ever!
Now the so called best 20 drivers in the world are afraid of driving in the rain
More of the fia is
@@shreyyy4078 true
Who's here after Canada 2019?
Canada 2019!!! what a joke! One more time, FIA ruined the race!
A lot of us...
Best fight ever?
Happens again with ricciardo in France
Austria 2019
Amazing how Kubica was competing with best cars in inferior BMW. You dont see that stuff today.
because now the F1 is made by cars and not by people anymore... bad looking and sounding cars too.
we actually saw that last year with alonso in a mclaren getting some good positions
In 2007 especially Heidfeld did a few very great races and overtakes. I remember Silverstone rain race he did two! double overtakes in that race. Or i remember how he overtook Alonso in Bahrain on the outside on dry conditions. he was 2 times on podium and 5 times on P4 that season.
I mean, it wasn't THAT inferior...
2007 doesn't have a big three like nowadays. You'd have Renaults, Saubers, Red Bulls, and Toyotas fighting with the McLarens and Ferraris
Who’s after spa 2021?
Epic fight, the best of last 30 years, clean and fair dispute.
And this is how u race in the rain and not be a baby like in Spa2021.
after SPA 2021 GRAND PRIX ...
Forget Magnussen and Hulk scrap, this is "Forcing another driver off the track", HOW TO DO IT PROPERLY
Who is here after the 2021 Spa Grand Prix?!
This is a battle worth seeing!
Im here after the BelgianGP farse, eh...
After the 2021 "Belgian Grand Prix" it is even more interesting to see that a long time ago in another Galaxy we used to have racing drivers.
In the same Galaxy, drivers had traction control and electronically automated throttle modulation under braking ;)
@@PlayTrickBLOGSPOT xD
@@PlayTrickBLOGSPOT 2021 cars without traction control are still more stable and responsive than 2000s cars
That's because this is Fuji, and not Spa. Spa has no forgiveness for mistakes, and it's a dangerous track. Fuji is mostly flat except for the last sector, which is very slow anyway. Fuji also has a lot of runoff. Spa has gravel traps and no runoff.
Absolute mad lads. Miss the old's regulations.
HERE WE HAD A RACE BUT TODAY IN SPA NO OKEY!!!
Look at this and then today race, it's a YOKE!
Maximum Penalty
Practices are yoke too.
@Leonardo Araujo I recently watched the entire 07 and 08 seasons and they were awesome. I actually didn't know who was going to win any of the races, let alone the championship (I actually knew because I was there back in the day watching them, but still you get what I mean). Who cares about Ricciardo and Perez overtaking each other 10 times a race if at the end of the day the podium is Ham-Bot-Ver and the championship is decided with 5 races to go? Plus, everytime two cars get to a straight you know there is no way the car ahead can defend from the overtaking with DRS. No skill, just DRS.
its a yoke and karma
2021 spa🙌🏻
Its like Kubica was just cruising , chilling until a challenge appeared. This man was ready to go with whatever speed necessary to keep up regardless of track conditions.
I'm here after 2021 Belgian Grand Prix nonsense.
really a nonsense
Even more rain than Spa...
tires generate less spray... since 2012 drivers have complained about Pirelli tires
that sound of the traction control with that V8 sounds so nice!
And We comes back to here today at delayed SPA GP 😅
Today they would delay the race for 10hours and wait untill it’s sunny to use inters.
These 2x drivers pre-accidents were top level
Who is here after the Belgium 2021 circus.i couldnt believe they actually raced 3 laps behind the safety car and called it quits.
Just checking in to see some footage from when racing was still allowed
Kubica's tenacity is nothing short of inspiring
hahahaha
That’s 40 seconds penalty for Ocon. 😂
Fuji is an incredibly good Track
Ew no it isn't. It has NO flow whatsoever. Just a bunch of corners that are too fast for mechanical grip and too slow for aero grip so you just chug through them.
It's Okay but it's got nothing on Suzuka. Fuji actually was much better before Tilke got hold of it.
Fuji is a drivers track, not a racing track imo, as there are only a few spots where you're able to overtake.
Fuji is more overtakeble but suzuka has better flow i think
Yes but suzuka is much better
Omg that sound at 0:11 , Pure heaven
You like the sound of traction control?
Traction control and rev limited V8s make this even less "REAL F1" than we have now :D
That was good cars, i agree, but Heaven is Heaven, and don't say Name Of Lord in vain, friend :)
Pure Hell, you mean. Pure Heaven is a Ferrarri v12 going through the revs....
now they both get: 300 penalty points, drive through and ban for 3 GPs.... Its not F1 anymore :(
Sad today f1 doesnt race in wet
10 years later Kubica might replace Massa for his seat in Williams
How things have changed
He could replace him for his seat in Ferrari in 2012...
What is delayed is not lost?
Idk why replace masa scores bare points for Williams
Massa is 1 single point ahead of Stroll... Kubica with Stroll would probably Williams, Stroll and Kubica of course.
But that's just the case because Stroll got his first podium at a race which Massa would've probably won without the damaged suspension.
you should play lotto mate!
Put in the frame that guys, you're not going to see that ever again in F1...
When this happens now, the car either breaks into a confetti of carbon fibre or the drivers would be crying about “unfair” fighting. Wish we had fights like this nowadays…
15 years today
Japan 2022 Greetings 😅
What's up, thought I'd watch some wet racing today since we can't watch it live apparently
@@joshuawhelan9358 This is a track for medical car testing ...
2019 Canada FIA dislike this
love this engine sound, love this battle, FORZA Robert Kubica
We would't have this precious race if it had been held in 2021...
Nice spa 2021
That TC was working very hard there
This is a Fight
This is a Race
This is Formula One
The True F-1
F1 Back then : tis just some drizzle, let's race!
F1 now : no it's too wet, delay the race 😂
Todays regulation: Masa +5s leaving track and gaining advantage, Kubica +5s pushing driver off track, 2 x 5s leaving track and gaining advantage 😅😢
And they say the older cars doesn't spray as much water as the 2022 cars. 🤦
Both Anthony Davidson and Rubens Barrichello said these were the worst conditions they ever drove in.
This doesn't seems do different than *Spa 2021*
The 2022 Japanese GP brought me back.
I had to watch it again after the "2021 Belgian Grand Prix" : DDDDDDDDD
SPA 2021 :D :D
They didn't mean to take prisoners, that's for sure. Looks to me like Massa started it by not giving any space. On the next turn Kubica has his revenge. It was brutal and spectacular. There is only one question. How did they fit in the cockpits with balls this size?!
These cars with traction control were incredibly stable even in the wet!
This is racing guys!
Not really, just barging each other off the track. Massa still does that to this day.
More like divebomb fest from Massa. Far away from racing.
Both were clean tho, like they both forced each other out and fought like real man to see who would come out on top. The fact that they only banged wheels is aslo a proff of great battle remember vettel pass on riccardo in china. Here, both knew were to put their car to not spun. Now, they can't even fight properly on defensives lines
"both were clean" lol pushing someone off the track is the complete opposite of clean, they were both at the same level of dirty but partly due to the low grip
It was the last lap and they were pushing like hell in the rain, of course they were gonna run wide and not give each other room
2021 spa ....
Learn FIA, learn.
F1 2017 > Black Flag, Black Flag!
There never was a 2007 F1 Game. They had Championship Edition with 2006 season. Never had 2008 game and then 2009 was focused on the Wii. 2010 had the amazing music.
I never talked about a game.
FELIPE MASSA ORGULHO DO BRASIL!!! GRANDE PILOTO, E GRANDE SER HUMANO DE VALOR!
Uma pena que depois do acidente ele tenha perdido muita velocidade.
Kubica is far better
@@zepter00 🤥🤥🤥
@@zepter00 When?
@@zepter00 an controversial opinion, but sadly its true
Spa 2021 🙃
Os dois foram fantásticos. Assisti essa corrida de madrugada no Brasil, e corri para o pc para ver essa ultrapassagem pela manha, até hoje relembro a sena. Both were fantastic. I watched this race at dawn in Brazil, and ran to the pc to see this overtaking in the morning, until today I remember the scene.
Race in Belgium tomorow!!!
Real racing!! Don't give mercy and don't ask for mercy!
Ok dirty but you have to say this is f*cking Amazing
In 2023 if there is this quantity of rain, immediately red flag
Meanwhile in 2022, we are not allowed to race in the wet.
That day they were able to race in wet. SHOCKING!
Golden ages of F1.
That's literally just a battle of who can drive furthest off the track and not loose the position lmao. Amazing
Here after waiting for that Belgian Gp to start
Came here to see if SPA sprint 2023 was that bad 😢
1:26 - Great respect to Kubika for leaving space.
Waiting SPA 2021…