Bring back the old 2.0 pinto engines. You could replace the cam belt with a 10mm and a 13mm. Even if it broke as they were non interference. Plenty of room and takes about 30 minutes! Everything is over complicated these days!
Agree with you. They did have a bit of a problem with the cam. oil spray bars getting blocked , but still great engine. No excuse for the fact a 2 litre Pinto made 100 bhp same as the basic 1.0 ecoboost. Motor bikes have been making massive power from a 1000 cc engine for years without issues. Ford and most makers are just the same as fridges and washing machines, limited life span.
Re: oil pressure gauge. Do miss this as (had one on capri laser) you could see it drop over time and go back up after a filter and oil change. So if you had one on an ecoboost you could do some diagnostics if problems were building
Mad respect to technicians like you who are knowledgeable and willing to share that knowledge. Also I feel it takes a certain kind of person to be able to take such a massive job on and handle it like it’s just another day at the office 👍
Great job Baz, did my boys car the other month and didnt enjoy it!. We didnt have a torque multiplier so did the crank bolt upto 300NM plus 90deg as per the Haynes manual. I think 300NM is probably enough, that extra 90deg makes it seem like something is gonna break. Great channel, nice and down to earth 👍👍
Fair play to you man. What a fricking nightmare. I can't believe Ford signed this design off. One of the first things you learn in engineering is that oil and rubber are not friends. Unbelievable.
I’m planning on getting mine done, 96,600 miles. I was planning on it anyway then last week the clutch was replaced. I must say though that although I was unsure about the wet belt when I first bought a Fiesta with this engine I’ve not had any problems with that new or this nearly new car. I cannot now afford a new or nearly new now but once the job is done then, provided I continue to have it correctly serviced, I’m sure I will get many more thousand miles from this engine.
I was ready to buy a Honda Civic 1.0 vtech. It turns out it has the same wet belt, and thus the same problems. I think I’m better off with the Mazda 6 2.0 Skyactive. It’s a proper engine without turbo. Thank god I found out about the problems first……..
You made that look easier then the job is, having mine done next week 58000 miles done, costing a lot but not paid any road tax on it for 5 years since brought it, so that will go towards it. If i tried to sell it wont get much if this has not been done and i do like the car great on fuel, fingers cross it all goes well.
@@propanbutan4634 £1650 at main dealer but like I said saved over £1000 not paying any road tax and normal not wet belt change is about £400 and I had a new water pump included in that because it is worth it at the same time , seems to be fine since I got it back, probably hang on to it 2or 3 years time I get rid won't be more then 70000 on the clock and iv got bill to show its been done.
Same problems with the 1.2 Puretech. For years your told not to get coolant or oil on the belt then they bring this crap out. IMO inside engine should be chain. 🙂
@@chrispop99 Hey brother im interested in buying a Fiesta Mk8.5 2022 with the 1.0 Ecoboost 125hp engine, so i want to know if they've changed the belt with a chain ?
My 2017 Honda Civic with the 1.0 engine has been re-called because of this problem too. I had the work done yesterday, apparently its a £1700+ job (no charge to me) which is crazy for a cam belt change.
My Civic 1.0 turbo has just died due to the wet belt particles damaging the turbo and head at 55k...very disappointed as I'd not had a recall. Now getting a recon engine fitted (with new belt) for £3500. Terrible design.
The 1.5T has a chain and is the better engine. Does 4.8L/100K on the highway, 6.4L/100K avg city traffic. And with a remap has 100bhp more than the 1.0T. Mine is 230bhp currently.
Thank you for the video! Just got my wife a ‘24 Escape with the 1.5L 3-cyl EcoBoost which is similar. Thankfully the timing is now chain-driven however the oil pump is still a wet belt.
I’m doing these on a weekly basis now because they are all 10 years old now, they are hard the first few times, it is now possible to do them in 4-5 hours. Important to always use a new crank seal and new pulley bolt.
Great video Baz, these wet belts are just a pain! Haven't done the Ford one yet but recently did a 2019 Vauxhall Crossland X 1.2 petrol engine (the PSA marked up as Citroen) apart from some of the geography around the timing case end (that Ford on in your video gives better access for a bit more work, swings and roundabouts eh!) The sump on the PSA engine is a pressed steel and mine was on for life, god knows what with, nearly destroyed it getting it off, got one off ebay. Interesting on the Ford that you didn't have to take the camshaft gear wheels off, the PSA one you do, (think this is from 2018 on, earlier ones might be different?). That crankshaft bolt was 50N + 180deg so tight! If you do the PSA engine watch out for the poor crankshaft locking arrangement. The locking kit bits for the camshaft are really good but the flywheel locking tool is a pin about 6 or 7mm dia and doesn't go into a proper hole, it is like a raised folded steel piece which you can see through an aperture, very dodgy indeed. This is the only lock for the crankshaft. I was concerned that the pin would jump out when exerting real torque on the crankshaft pulley bolt so I made a secondary tool that pressed on the back of the provided tool and the additional one provides direct horizontal support. Let me know if you have an opinion on this or have experienced it. I have a Ford wet belt to do and your video has been most valuable in preparation. Thank you so much.
Mate you got the wrong tools all you need is a car crusher but I guess the customer might not consent, seriously big respect to people like you keeping these deeply flawed cars on the road.😀
Mines getting done next week I'm so annoyed to have not known about this car engine doing this surely there's got to be a clam for these thousands of engines
Mine has done 220 000km (+- 136 000 Miles) and then I changed the belt, did not break or cause any issues, Serviced it every 15 000km (+-10 000 Miles) [oil and oil filter + Air Filter and Cabin Filter every 2nd service]
It would almost be better to have an aftermarket solution where there is an oil pan with a large access drain that you could stick a pick into to clean the oil pick up. It won't solve the belt fragmentation issue but it will at least allow the customer to prevent the pickup tube from clogging up.
And that’s all there is to it! What a job! Can’t believe the the mentality of the person at Ford who designed this piece of nonsense. There has to easier ways to design a engine. Well done though for having patience and expertise to do the job. Hats off to you!
Baz do you think you be able to see the pickup mesh using a boroscope camara through the sump plug as a way of seeing if belt is starting to deteriorate?
Just this second had mine snap, was looking into doing it myself, but not sure i will now, over in Ireland visiting the other halfs parents, garages ain't cheap here.
Just phoned a Ford dealership (Bishops Stortford) and the sales man said he didn’t know anything about it but when I mentioned that Ford in America are recalling these cars and he said he had heard that, but it’s not the same problem.. is he being truthful?
Baz can u help me I have a Ford focus 2015 1.0lt ecoboost it’s had the wet belt done and had a recent service I’ve just got a engine light on I plug in a diagnostic tool and the code is catalytic converter below freehold bank 1 the car still drives fine no smoke from exhaust and no loss in power any ideas
I also have a Fiesta which the same age and mileage, most garages don't do wet timing belt changes around me... let me know if you get it done or find quotes
@charlotteliversidge2606 Hi yes I got mine done at my friends garage it takes a full day's labour to do because of where the belt is you're looking at anywhere between £1100 - £1400 annoyingly I was told the belt was in good condition once they replaced it so it would've probably been good for another year at least but that's the chance you take I guess.
Hi, im driving the 2021 fiesta 1.0 titanium, its currently at 96 000 km... I have been advised to sell it before it get changed the cam belt because apparently the belt is inside the engine, and once it's opened, the car does not function properly ever after, how true?
so is that the oil filter at 3:07 with the fibres in??? I've just brought a 18plate 1.0L with 19k miles on it, should I just make sure to get the oil changed and that filter at 3:07 cleared regularly??
Definitely do an oil change every 5 - 6k mikes. Use only Castrol Magnatex. 5w/20w ford Fords and a new filter. Do an oil change now, that's not a lot of mileage, so the car will have sat about for some time, the oil will have drained to the sump between drives. Most does normally, but a very thin layer takes a couple of days to run to the sump Meaning each start will take a few seconds for oil to get round all of the engine
Anyone know what a garage would charge "just" to drop the sump to inspect the belt and oil pickup? Is that a reasonable precaution at say 80,000 miles?
I wonder if the Ford engineers actually thought about how the mechanics are supposed to service this belt, the engine designed around the belt it seems.
We have Citroen C4 , garage tried to replace wet belt , broken by the way and didn’t clean properly oil drain/pick up in sump . Guess what ! .. banging sound , bearings now need replaced/recon engine at 4k 🙄. Only done around 60k .
Isn't there a design flaw with the ecoboost engines where the belt degrates prematurely causing the oil pump to clog , starving the engine including the turbocharger, which then can make it fail ?
Brilliant video , got one for family to do , cant say no . Do u think vvti oil valve and feed be ok , peugeot recommend cleaning that also on their 40k wet belt fuck up recall
Serves Ford right for designing these POS engines like this, now they're all being recalled. Even a lot of 90's cars you could replace the timing belt in under 2 hours without taking the sump off or any of the accessories or engine mounts or any of that crap.
Are the 2.0 mondeo eco blue engines a big job like that too, ford quoted me £1600 , I no main dealers are expensive but is that £1600 justified, if so I'd like someone to brake down all work involved.. cheers
Totally avoid this engine, had mine opened up today and told the belt had deteriorated and was at the point of snapping. Oil pressure light had been on for approx 5 miles. Ruined engine😢
I kinda get the idea of wet belt, though I don't think benefits are big. But one thing I absolutely can't understand. Why didn't they make casing like in sleds etc? I mean why didn't they design it so, that it would be separate enclosure that has it's own oil if using oiled belt is mandatory.
I got a wet belt issue, watched loads of these videos and consulted three different garages, one is saying new engine two don't seem to share that view, do you have a way of giving me some direct advice when it comes to doing this as a DIY service?
Diy is rather difficult but doable. You just need the timing Tools and some basic knowlege and lots of time. I recommend finding a lift you can rent or else you wont be able to Open and close the crank bolt (300nm + 70°)
Idk if this is true but someone who “does heavy duty” at Ford (a guy on the ecoboost facebook page) says when you take off the exhaust, the studs tend to snap and if they do, you will need a new turbo. That doesn’t sound right to me. Does that sound right? Lol
The top right stud 90% of the time snaps but all you do is remove the snapped stud and put a new one in no need for a new turbo at all. Sounds like a Cowboy to me
in the process of changing my timing belt, when i turn my crank my outlet cam is seems to be jamming up then jumping back to normal with a clonking noise, timing seems to be fine. is this normal or anything anyone has come across?
Hi bez this belt is against all engineering principles and the motor manufactures know this system is doomed this is a national disgrace my wife had wet belt issue and VX said nothing
Actually the engineering principles are sound. The wet belt adsorbs less power than a dry one, or a chain, and is quieter than a chain. It's the execution that is poor.
@@chrispop99 Sadly they don’t last very long .. 60k on ours , and the cost of replacing them is minimum £1500 and has to be done correctly like Baz has done . We just had wet belt replacement by garage and they didn’t clean oil drain part , engine bearings knackered now 🙄🤬
@@user-zk9xe3wm3vThe camchain kit is 30 quid cheaper than the cambelt kit for a typical EcoBoost - hardly massive. I'm also struggling to see where the space saving comes in to it. Wet belts reduce drag over chains or dry belts. All of current car designs are about fuel efficiency.
Personally had 6 where they shred the teeth off and cams keep moving but not crank. In our garage had Alot more than just my 6 mate. No one up here services there car either so eats that belt up
Wow, such a loooong job, I guess it's quite a time consuming task so I shiver to think how much it would cost 😮 not looking forward to mine(56000) but what are the tell tale signs that lead you to taking the car to the garage😮 great job, thanks
Fun to see you using the tool now, stupidky tight, 70 with hand, 60 on the converter and then 5x 90... just sick.. Did you ever had problems doing them by hand? Got one planned for easter.. and i dont want to buy the tool for 1 or 2 cars
Was going to buy a 2018 fiesta ST line with 55k on it, until i found put about these engines. Not bothering now because in the next two to three years it will cost serious money either to replace the belt or sell the car with at substantial loss. Shame really.
Bring back the old 2.0 pinto engines. You could replace the cam belt with a 10mm and a 13mm. Even if it broke as they were non interference. Plenty of room and takes about 30 minutes!
Everything is over complicated these days!
Agree with you. They did have a bit of a problem with the cam. oil spray bars getting blocked , but still great engine. No excuse for the fact a 2 litre Pinto made 100 bhp same as the basic 1.0 ecoboost. Motor bikes have been making massive power from a 1000 cc engine for years without issues. Ford and most makers are just the same as fridges and washing machines, limited life span.
Yeh had a capri had todo belt on mine and eventually head gasket. These new engines more efficient just more cost saving going on now 😢
Bring back the oil pressure gauge!
Its.in the diagnose these days
Re: oil pressure gauge. Do miss this as (had one on capri laser) you could see it drop over time and go back up after a filter and oil change. So if you had one on an ecoboost you could do some diagnostics if problems were building
Mad respect to technicians like you who are knowledgeable and willing to share that knowledge.
Also I feel it takes a certain kind of person to be able to take such a massive job on and handle it like it’s just another day at the office 👍
Wet belt is probably most idiotic stroke of genius, just got this done at shop and now i know why i had to pay 1850€.
Got a 1015e bill here, such differences...
Ford keeps shafting people and people like that, they keep buying Fords.
Only every 8 years or 80k miles though, great car and engine.
Ferrari prices .
in Manchester only cost me £480, paying 1850€ sounds you are easy to rip off
Great job Baz, did my boys car the other month and didnt enjoy it!. We didnt have a torque multiplier so did the crank bolt upto 300NM plus 90deg as per the Haynes manual. I think 300NM is probably enough, that extra 90deg makes it seem like something is gonna break.
Great channel, nice and down to earth
👍👍
Ye stupid tight, it goes against everything that you feel is tight 😂😂😂
300nm yeh beast. Need a bigger torque wrench.
I got a 16 focus and daughter an 18 fiesta.
Fair play to you man. What a fricking nightmare.
I can't believe Ford signed this design off. One of the first things you learn in engineering is that oil and rubber are not friends. Unbelievable.
Why is your engine oil filter gasket made of rubber then?
@@Factoryseconds123 because it can be changed once a year and doesn't need to take the pressure of the engine running across it for 60k miles
I’m planning on getting mine done, 96,600 miles. I was planning on it anyway then last week the clutch was replaced. I must say though that although I was unsure about the wet belt when I first bought a Fiesta with this engine I’ve not had any problems with that new or this nearly new car. I cannot now afford a new or nearly new now but once the job is done then, provided I continue to have it correctly serviced, I’m sure I will get many more thousand miles from this engine.
I was ready to buy a Honda Civic 1.0 vtech. It turns out it has the same wet belt, and thus the same problems. I think I’m better off with the Mazda 6 2.0 Skyactive. It’s a proper engine without turbo. Thank god I found out about the problems first……..
1.5T has a chain. And it's spelled VTEC.
You made that look easier then the job is, having mine done next week 58000 miles done, costing a lot but not paid any road tax on it for 5 years since brought it, so that will go towards it. If i tried to sell it wont get much if this has not been done and i do like the car great on fuel, fingers cross it all goes well.
how you paid for the job?
@@propanbutan4634 How with my money of cause.
@@peteiswriteingnow sorry how much
@@propanbutan4634 £1650 at main dealer but like I said saved over £1000 not paying any road tax and normal not wet belt change is about £400 and I had a new water pump included in that because it is worth it at the same time , seems to be fine since I got it back, probably hang on to it 2or 3 years time I get rid won't be more then 70000 on the clock and iv got bill to show its been done.
Same problems with the 1.2 Puretech. For years your told not to get coolant or oil on the belt then they bring this crap out. IMO inside engine should be chain. 🙂
Some of the latest EcoBoost engines are now, at least for timing.
@@chrispop99 Hey brother im interested in buying a Fiesta Mk8.5 2022 with the 1.0 Ecoboost 125hp engine, so i want to know if they've changed the belt with a chain ?
@@AlgerianNinja The engines with a chain were introduced mid-2020.
“Simple as that” wonderful understatement..
My 2017 Honda Civic with the 1.0 engine has been re-called because of this problem too. I had the work done yesterday, apparently its a £1700+ job (no charge to me) which is crazy for a cam belt change.
My Civic 1.0 turbo has just died due to the wet belt particles damaging the turbo and head at 55k...very disappointed as I'd not had a recall. Now getting a recon engine fitted (with new belt) for £3500. Terrible design.
The 1.5T has a chain and is the better engine. Does 4.8L/100K on the highway, 6.4L/100K avg city traffic.
And with a remap has 100bhp more than the 1.0T. Mine is 230bhp currently.
Thank you for the video! Just got my wife a ‘24 Escape with the 1.5L 3-cyl EcoBoost which is similar. Thankfully the timing is now chain-driven however the oil pump is still a wet belt.
I’m doing these on a weekly basis now because they are all 10 years old now, they are hard the first few times, it is now possible to do them in 4-5 hours. Important to always use a new crank seal and new pulley bolt.
Great video Baz, these wet belts are just a pain! Haven't done the Ford one yet but recently did a 2019 Vauxhall Crossland X 1.2 petrol engine (the PSA marked up as Citroen) apart from some of the geography around the timing case end (that Ford on in your video gives better access for a bit more work, swings and roundabouts eh!) The sump on the PSA engine is a pressed steel and mine was on for life, god knows what with, nearly destroyed it getting it off, got one off ebay. Interesting on the Ford that you didn't have to take the camshaft gear wheels off, the PSA one you do, (think this is from 2018 on, earlier ones might be different?). That crankshaft bolt was 50N + 180deg so tight!
If you do the PSA engine watch out for the poor crankshaft locking arrangement. The locking kit bits for the camshaft are really good but the flywheel locking tool is a pin about 6 or 7mm dia and doesn't go into a proper hole, it is like a raised folded steel piece which you can see through an aperture, very dodgy indeed. This is the only lock for the crankshaft. I was concerned that the pin would jump out when exerting real torque on the crankshaft pulley bolt so I made a secondary tool that pressed on the back of the provided tool and the additional one provides direct horizontal support. Let me know if you have an opinion on this or have experienced it.
I have a Ford wet belt to do and your video has been most valuable in preparation. Thank you so much.
Mate you got the wrong tools all you need is a car crusher but I guess the customer might not consent, seriously big respect to people like you keeping these deeply flawed cars on the road.😀
Mines getting done next week I'm so annoyed to have not known about this car engine doing this surely there's got to be a clam for these thousands of engines
Mine has done 220 000km (+- 136 000 Miles) and then I changed the belt, did not break or cause any issues, Serviced it every 15 000km (+-10 000 Miles) [oil and oil filter + Air Filter and Cabin Filter every 2nd service]
It would almost be better to have an aftermarket solution where there is an oil pan with a large access drain that you could stick a pick into to clean the oil pick up. It won't solve the belt fragmentation issue but it will at least allow the customer to prevent the pickup tube from clogging up.
And that’s all there is to it! What a job! Can’t believe the the mentality of the person at Ford who designed this piece of nonsense. There has to easier ways to design a engine. Well done though for having patience and expertise to do the job. Hats off to you!
They need to put a removable plate under the oil pump so you can scrape the crap out every now again. 😮
that would be a sensible modification
Baz do you think you be able to see the pickup mesh using a boroscope camara through the sump plug as a way of seeing if belt is starting to deteriorate?
No harm in trying
Great video. Keep on posting 🥳😃
great videomy wifes Vauxhall 1.2 grandland had only done less than 30,000 miles
Hi Mate, great video. I was just wondering what the cost would be a for carrying out this repair job? Thanks
1k to £1400 buddy
£1300 to £2000 depending where to go. AVOID FORD DEALERS
How long will the car last after this if oil changed and serviced? Another 30/40/50k?
Baz
Got this exact problem now April
Where are you based and whats a rough cost. Thanks in advance
What a performance i won't be buying 1 of these got a suzuki swift 152,000 miles no hassle
did the elastic band trans brake?
Just this second had mine snap, was looking into doing it myself, but not sure i will now, over in Ireland visiting the other halfs parents, garages ain't cheap here.
Thanks, Baz - brilliant job. Do the 1084 cc non turbo engines have the same cambelt and oil drive belt setup?
What manuel you using to get all your data from ? On the look for a new monthly to use.
Autodata buddy
My daughters van wet belt, stripey the teeth of the belt, as a result bent valves and and damaged pistons almost £4000 to fix.
Great video !! 🙂 perfectly done. 🙂
Just phoned a Ford dealership (Bishops Stortford) and the sales man said he didn’t know anything about it but when I mentioned that Ford in America are recalling these cars and he said he had heard that, but it’s not the same problem.. is he being truthful?
Nope.
The American cars have a tensioner on the oil pump belt which is where they’re pointing the blame.
what is the year of the car?
Baz can u help me I have a Ford focus 2015 1.0lt ecoboost it’s had the wet belt done and had a recent service I’ve just got a engine light on I plug in a diagnostic tool and the code is catalytic converter below freehold bank 1 the car still drives fine no smoke from exhaust and no loss in power any ideas
My ecoboost is now 10yrs old but only done 50k miles should i still get the belt changed as a matter of urgency?
yes most definitely, rubber ages with time let alone being soaked in oil with the modern cleaning addatives
I also have a Fiesta which the same age and mileage, most garages don't do wet timing belt changes around me... let me know if you get it done or find quotes
@charlotteliversidge2606 Hi yes I got mine done at my friends garage it takes a full day's labour to do because of where the belt is you're looking at anywhere between £1100 - £1400 annoyingly I was told the belt was in good condition once they replaced it so it would've probably been good for another year at least but that's the chance you take I guess.
Hi, im driving the 2021 fiesta 1.0 titanium, its currently at 96 000 km... I have been advised to sell it before it get changed the cam belt because apparently the belt is inside the engine, and once it's opened, the car does not function properly ever after, how true?
I need to do timing belt replacement for 2015 75k km, but i cannot find the seal for water pump to timing cover
How much does it cost, because my car done 73k
And don't know if it needs changing
so is that the oil filter at 3:07 with the fibres in??? I've just brought a 18plate 1.0L with 19k miles on it, should I just make sure to get the oil changed and that filter at 3:07 cleared regularly??
Definitely do an oil change every 5 - 6k mikes. Use only Castrol Magnatex. 5w/20w ford Fords and a new filter. Do an oil change now, that's not a lot of mileage, so the car will have sat about for some time, the oil will have drained to the sump between drives. Most does normally, but a very thin layer takes a couple of days to run to the sump Meaning each start will take a few seconds for oil to get round all of the engine
Not to criticise you can leave the cat on the car just remove from turbo remove from exhaust hangers. Sump will come off. As always good video
Nice work how much should a person pay for such a job approximately cheers
No wonder I will never buy a euroboom engine from ford. Ford know it’s a problem engine and have been recalled in the USA. But not in the UK.
How much did this job cost? Looking to get mine done, been quoted various prices, stupidly high to dodgy cheap. Many thanks in advance
Anyone know what a garage would charge "just" to drop the sump to inspect the belt and oil pickup? Is that a reasonable precaution at say 80,000 miles?
Hello, i have a 2013 1.0 EcoBoost.
But i cant find the friction ring, do you have a partnumber ? Or a link where i can buy it?
I wonder if the Ford engineers actually thought about how the mechanics are supposed to service this belt, the engine designed around the belt it seems.
Their original thoughts were that the belt should outlast the car!
They want every single of these cars at the scrapper in 10 or so years so they can sell another car.
@@PaulLorenzini-ny2ywThat's far from the truth; in most of the world new ICE vehicles will be outlawed by then.
@@chrispop99 I will not comply.
@@PaulLorenzini-ny2yw How will you buy a new ICE car when none are available to buy?
My fiesta is on 75k miles 67 plate been serviced and had fresh oil every year by ford since new would you recommend i got it changed?
Yes Ford have changed the time for the belt change from 10 years to 6 years so yours is now due 👍.
Good job sir 👏 keep it up 👍
I had a wet belt snap on my 1.8 Diesel Mondeo, the car was scrapped 😢
There's white smoke drifting off the engine at the end - is that a problem?
We have Citroen C4 , garage tried to replace wet belt , broken by the way and didn’t clean properly oil drain/pick up in sump . Guess what ! .. banging sound , bearings now need replaced/recon engine at 4k 🙄. Only done around 60k .
I will never do a wet belt without removing the sump. Do it properly or not at all
Isn't there a design flaw with the ecoboost engines where the belt degrates prematurely causing the oil pump to clog , starving the engine including the turbocharger, which then can make it fail ?
Duro bro 💪 muy útil ahora me toca a mi 🤓
Is Ford Ecosport titanium turbo 1.0 turbo have the same problem and what’s your advice can I buy one at 33000 miles
Brilliant video , got one for family to do , cant say no .
Do u think vvti oil valve and feed be ok , peugeot recommend cleaning that also on their 40k wet belt fuck up recall
Are those pliers normally used to remove wheel trim covers
Yep
Hi my cam locking tools are differant to yours is this a later fox engine with no flats and bar code to line up on the cams
What is your thought process before starting such a big job Baz? By the way great video.
It's all an achievement buddy, nothing better than having something apart and rebuilding it, no matter the job bigger the better
Serves Ford right for designing these POS engines like this, now they're all being recalled.
Even a lot of 90's cars you could replace the timing belt in under 2 hours without taking the sump off or any of the accessories or engine mounts or any of that crap.
Nice prep job . 🍺
Are the 2.0 mondeo eco blue engines a big job like that too, ford quoted me £1600 , I no main dealers are expensive but is that £1600 justified, if so I'd like someone to brake down all work involved.. cheers
The belt are surprisingly small, my 90s Honda and Mitsubishi are double the size.
Im gettin charged 2500 for my 1 ltr ford eco boost its only done 6200 miles does this seem normal price wise
how many time you need to make all job?
Where are you based baz as I'm going to need my wet belt replaced soon i know if you do it I'm going to get a proper job done ?
Good day can you please give me name of timing locking tool or where to but it
6952 laser kit for ecoboost engine,
euro car parts selling this kit, ebay etc
What oil did you put in by the way. Isn't it meant to be a certain one
Stumbled upon this vid looking for info on a potential new car purchase. Should I avoid this engine?
It's a big fat YES from me 😂
Totally avoid this engine, had mine opened up today and told the belt had deteriorated and was at the point of snapping. Oil pressure light had been on for approx 5 miles. Ruined engine😢
I kinda get the idea of wet belt, though I don't think benefits are big. But one thing I absolutely can't understand. Why didn't they make casing like in sleds etc? I mean why didn't they design it so, that it would be separate enclosure that has it's own oil if using oiled belt is mandatory.
hi .. can i know whats the part number of little rubber O-ring ( minutes 0.33) TQ
I got a wet belt issue, watched loads of these videos and consulted three different garages, one is saying new engine two don't seem to share that view, do you have a way of giving me some direct advice when it comes to doing this as a DIY service?
Diy is rather difficult but doable. You just need the timing Tools and some basic knowlege and lots of time.
I recommend finding a lift you can rent or else you wont be able to Open and close the crank bolt (300nm + 70°)
Scanning tool version?
Idk if this is true but someone who “does heavy duty” at Ford (a guy on the ecoboost facebook page) says when you take off the exhaust, the studs tend to snap and if they do, you will need a new turbo. That doesn’t sound right to me. Does that sound right? Lol
The top right stud 90% of the time snaps but all you do is remove the snapped stud and put a new one in no need for a new turbo at all. Sounds like a
Cowboy to me
It's designed to eventually fail ,,so you buy another car 😮
What an awful design Ecoboom 🙈🙈👎 great job as always 👍👍👌
Nice 1 Baz
What would this Cost roughly? i have a Fiesta 2017 on 72 almost 73k. with full history just no evidence of the belt been done? Thanks!
If you can get it done for less then £1000 then you are doing well.
This should be paid for by the manufacturer. Teach them not to be stupid.
is this Launch 431 ???????
Great video but what a nightmare! Who designed this thing? Was any thought ever put into how the belts could or would be changed?
Any bother bleeding the coolant system ?
Most places use vac filters for the cooling system brilliant bit of kit no bleeding needed
Nope, straight forward
Nice job mate 👍 very good 😅
wow baz what a job!!! so how many hours labour is it?
It's a time consuming job day and half that's including a lot of cleaning and everything is torqued to spec and a test drive
My Ford dealer told me it’s a 10 hour job
Where did you buy the parts?
in the process of changing my timing belt, when i turn my crank my outlet cam is seems to be jamming up then jumping back to normal with a clonking noise, timing seems to be fine. is this normal or anything anyone has come across?
What price approx for that job?
How much does it cost to get done
How much would you charge to do mine Baz
Hi bez this belt is against all engineering principles and the motor manufactures know this system is doomed this is a national disgrace my wife had wet belt issue and VX said nothing
Actually the engineering principles are sound. The wet belt adsorbs less power than a dry one, or a chain, and is quieter than a chain. It's the execution that is poor.
@@chrispop99 Sadly they don’t last very long .. 60k on ours , and the cost of replacing them is minimum £1500 and has to be done correctly like Baz has done . We just had wet belt replacement by garage and they didn’t clean oil drain part , engine bearings knackered now 🙄🤬
@@user-zk9xe3wm3vThe camchain kit is 30 quid cheaper than the cambelt kit for a typical EcoBoost - hardly massive.
I'm also struggling to see where the space saving comes in to it.
Wet belts reduce drag over chains or dry belts. All of current car designs are about fuel efficiency.
What did this cost? Must have been at least 30% value of the car
Personally had 6 where they shred the teeth off and cams keep moving but not crank. In our garage had Alot more than just my 6 mate. No one up here services there car either so eats that belt up
Wow, such a loooong job, I guess it's quite a time consuming task so I shiver to think how much it would cost 😮 not looking forward to mine(56000) but what are the tell tale signs that lead you to taking the car to the garage😮 great job, thanks
There isnt any as I found out this morning when mine (93,000) conked out on me
Oil pressure warning light
Fun to see you using the tool now, stupidky tight, 70 with hand, 60 on the converter and then 5x 90... just sick..
Did you ever had problems doing them by hand? Got one planned for easter.. and i dont want to buy the tool for 1 or 2 cars
43k and mine went... useless! Thankfully it didn't kill it
Was going to buy a 2018 fiesta ST line with 55k on it, until i found put about these engines. Not bothering now because in the next two to three years it will cost serious money either to replace the belt or sell the car with at substantial loss. Shame really.
Had a few transit ones snap on the 2 litre
How much?
quick one always worried how the belt does not sit in the middle of the pulley
It keeps itself central
Great video baz how many hours in total
A day buddy