Refresh an Old Style Singer 66 Bobbin Winder
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2021
- By viewer request! This time we take apart, clean and polish, then reassemble the bobbin winder from a Singer 66 Red Eye.
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1:11 Disassembly
5:14 Cleaning and refreshing the screws
8:39 Cleaning the other parts
12:00 I spare you the gory details!
12:08 Reassembly bracket to belt guard
13:37 Winder to belt guard with spring
14:35 Bobbin follower to bracket with spring
16:07 Main gear backlash adjustment
17:23 Cam follower/thread guide with spring
18:25 Finish it all up - Навчання та стиль
My 66 was born in 1955, bigger spring was broken, a spring expert made a new one for me. With your unique instructions, everything is fine now. Thank you.
Glad you got her working!
Thank you for this easy to understand tutorial.
Glad it helped!
I'm working on a 1915 Redeye and this was just the tutorial I needed to get the ol' bobbin winder running. Thank you so much for all the details!
These are invaluable videos and such enriching content. I'd like you to know that it is precisely these intricate part assembly and cleaning that is very useful to anyone restoring these beautiful machines. They are heirloom pieces and should be back in use. I took apart the bobbin winder to a 1957 Universal/Dressmaker machine and could not remember where the springs went back in! This has helped a lot even if the machines are different.
Please remember to have very good lighting, preferably LED white light not incandescent bulbs so camera does not have yellow light. Bring camera in for closeups so we see how these springs are snugly fit inside the parts. All the parts are black so lighting needs to increase.
What is an 'eccentric screw'? From my research, it looks like a screw where the shaft/stem is off center. Pressing with clamping screws with eccentric head enables mounting accuracy to be maintained by suppressing the warping and misalignment caused by long-term use. Is this correct?
You are painting the machine? What fun! Are you powder coating or using acrylics, oil enamels? If using car paint you have so many choices like color shift, pearlescent, metallics, etc. KP Pigments are some of the best powdered pigments. Bear in mind, if you don't wish to spray them, and want a satin finish not gloss, you can brush paint with Durabak, a very hard moisture-cured polyurethane bedliner paint that is super durable. Good for all sorts of materials. If you are spraying it with spray cans, then know that you can buy a very high artist quality acrylic paint with NC Lacquer base called Montana Gold. The solvent and cleanup is with Acetone not Mineral Spirits. The colors are very UV resistant and superb. Finishes matte or gloss. I would finish off with a clear oil based Polyurethane sealer coat or car gel coat paint for high gloss. Poly comes in satin, semi, or high gloss and is more durable. You will have great results. If bare metal, etch with phosphoric acid, use a primer coat oil enamel spray, then a white primer, then Montana Gold color coats, then Poly. Montana has a beautiful spray head, very fine. You can buy at Jerrys Art-o-rama or Blicks. I sprayed a bird feeder tray and it is in full sun for 2 yrs and no fading. Unbelievable.
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I tried to clean and reassemble a 66 bobbin winder a while back, lost a spring, bought another from ebay, but never could get it to go back in and finally wound up breaking it. (The spring, not the winder thankfully.) I gave up on that one eventually and just put the winder back on the machine sans spring. So I was anxious about trying it again with a 99K I picked up recently. Yesterday I found your video and followed along with it step by step, and got it right first try! Your demonstrations and directions were clear and very helpful. Thank you so much!!!
I'm so glad it was helpful!
Wow Bob! Excellent instructions. Friends bring these old vintage Singer strays to me to work on. This type of winder has always mystified me and I play your video each time I dissemble these old style Winders. Got it! Works great!!
Thanks for all your videos! Just used this one to dissemble a bobbin winder, clean it and it is back together thanks to you!
Very helpful, thank you! I just got an old 66 and starting to clean her up!
Glad it helped!
Thanks yet again, Bob! This bobbin winder made me crazy, it was on a 99k, but it's from a 66. I took a guess and found it here! Problem solved!
They are one in the same!
@@BobFowlerWorkshop They have different parts! I took one apart a few months ago and it was on a 99, but the one I was working on today had several different parts where the follower and the pulley bracket attach to the machine. The 99 belt guard has a recess on the inside where they attach inside it, but the 66 has a totally level inner side, and the screws go in on the outside. Maybe it's an age difference? Either way, You helped me solve the problem! :)
Just got a 66 and will follow your really clear video to strip down and service mine now! Thanks!
I hope it helps!
@@BobFowlerWorkshop Definitely! It is functional but you've given me the confidence to strip it down to clean it. I find once you do this, you properly understand the mechanics and it then help with any fault diagnosis in the future. This is one of the reasons why I love You Tube, informative and clear videos that teach you a new skill. Thank you! :)
I love how you fix the screws great idea
If I give a customer back a machine and screw heads are chewed up, they have every right to think I did it, even if I never touched that part - at least that's the way I see it...
Wonderful video! I just received a Singer 66 Redeye from my father-in-law that was in very poor shape. I have never done any conservation work so I was really unsure how to take apart, clean and reassemble the bobbin winder. I played your video many times and was successfully able to do it myself. (Those springs were a bit fussy :) ) Thank you very much for making this video and explaining clearly and slowly what you were doing as you went along.
That's awesome! send some pictures! argosybob@gmail.com
Thank you Bob! Beautiful job.
Thank you kindly!
Awesome tutorial. Very clear, well explained, different size screws was a little confusing but eventually i figured it out.
Have you thought of doing a tutorial on the handcrank-mine is so very full of black grease.
Watching this so I can restore my bobbin winder next.
Hope this helps!
Oh, wow, this is wonderful.
Glad it helped!
Thank You Bob
Glad you likes it!
BOB! I managed to do the biggest SIN! Took my 66 winder off,,,,, didn’t keep screws in order,,,, now I have it working and can not find the right screw to attach to the machine!
Thank you so much!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏
Happy to help!
Is it possible to take the winder part - the part that spins against the belt or wheel and holds the bobbin - apart and swap it from a Singer 15 to Singer 66? For some reason, I've managed to buy Singer 15 winders TWICE on Ebay (sketchy sellers, unclear pictures, way too much hope) and I'm just needing to swap it out so the pin location changes and will fit the Singer 66 bobbins. Thank you!
My 66 has a one piece cam that goes on opposite of the two piece. Took me 2 days to figure it out.
Yes, it’s scaring the heck out of me. Lol. I’m trying to reassemble a 99 bobbin assembly and for the life of me,can’t get that spring to stay in the slot. I spent about two hours for nothing before coming back to UA-cam to find an exact piece…
No luck😞. This assembly is similar but not quite the same.
Email me... argosybob@gmail.com. I can help...
Do you know where I can find the right mounting screw for the bobbin wonder mechanism? I ordered what I thought was right but it isn’t. Any ideas?
Great video. Most helpful especially with all the springs to reposition. We’re about to strip down and repaint a 99K in a not black colour. How would you tackle the part that has the bobbin winder axle in it, the bobbin tyre wheel part? Would you tidy it up as black and not repaint that part? Hopefully you be doing a video of the repaint job. Thanks for the great videos.
Here ya go Christine...
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Oof! I just put one of these together again (after spending my free time over the last few days (yes - days!) cleaning and polishing it all as best I possibly could. Getting in the last pivot screw for the follower was an ordeal. It needed my hubby and Chapman wrenchy-handle thingy to loosen it when we took it off but Oh! My! Goodness! Getting it back on was just as tight and difficult.
I slipped at one point and had to remove it, polish out a wee scratch in the follower and roughness in the slot of the screw. All nice shiny and spiffing again and on the next try - being _so_much_more_careful_ - I got it in. Now it looks great and all is working. And I know why that screw was so chowdered up in in the first place!
I got the threads on the pivot screw and screw-hole (is there a proper name for that?) as clean as a whistle and well-oiled so why it was so, so, so tight I don't know. Is that normal for these? You seemed to have no exceptional trouble screwing it back in. Fiddly with the spring yes - but there was no sign of you reaching for "leverage is your friend" assistance to get it seated all the way in.
"You seemed to have no exceptional trouble screwing it back in" - Only because I have done so many of these, I can do them in my sleep, my dear, I can do them in my sleep... :-) Back in the late 1980's when my wife was teaching me how to repair clarinets, I was struggling to seat pads accurately. She told me the same thing I'm going to tell you - "It get's easy after the 5000th time you do it!"
My version of the spring you removed at 2:40 has the tail broken off. It's not the 3/8 inch version (I measured) - do you know where to get one that's closer to 1/2"? It's from a 1923 66-1 treadle machine.
Tell us more about those files you used to polish this?
I did not know you painted sewing machines
Hey Bob, thanks for the great videos. I have a circa 1913 66 treadle with a broken bobbin winder (missing spring) that I hope to fix. The winder does not have a rubber wheel, instead it has a groove where the treadle belt goes. Is this correct, or is it just missing? I have researched this, and it seems some machines where made this way? Thanks for any advice.
Do you have a source for that little concave washer behind the big gear plate?
Where do you get the pointy swabs?
Not the exact part, but these may work: www.zoro.com/spec-disc-spring-025-ss-curved-pk10-u2500110s/i/G5239245/
I get the pointy swabs from Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/B07YJJNG9F?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
Are there any videos on removing the shaft?
@Bob Fowler
Thank you very much for this video. I recently bought a vintage 201 singer and looking forward to restore it. Please, can you name the the three type of scrubber you used to clean the screws ?
and what is the material type and the brush name you used from time 10:46 to 11:55 to clean the radial metal part and make it luster ?
To clean and polish screws, I chuck them into our bench motor and while the motor is running, use foam-cored nail files in various grits from 220 to 12000 to remove damage to the slots and polish the heads to a mirror finish. As for polishing the other hard parts, I use a variety of cloth buffing wheels and hard felt polishing points with either a yellow or white polishing compound. Email me at argosybob@gmail.com and I can give you more information.
I have a 66 and most everything is there , but what you called a tire on the bobbin winder is all chewed up , where can I get another. Also bobbin plate is missing, any help would be appreciated, Thanks in advance.
Good news, you can get both parts here: www.sewingpartsonline.com/singer-66-1-sewing-machine-parts.aspx?index=1
will this fit on a 306 singer ??
I have a basic question. You refer to using a "very fine" wire wheel on the Dremel. How do you tell if a wire wheel is fine enough and/or what wire wheels do you purchase?
(And thank you so much for these videos - the video quality and instruction are excellent, and you are providing an important public service for those of us that don't have your expertise but want to save these old machines.)
I use the set of 5 sold by Harbor Freight. Do yourself a favor though, ALWAYS wear eye protection and a shop apron!
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Hi Bob, could you explain what are the Blue, pink and Grey things/pads you use to clean the first screw right after you disassembled the winder?
Sure, those are cushioned nail files/polishers. I buy a lot of them at Sally Beauty. Here's what they are:
www.sallybeauty.com/nails/nail-care-and-accessories/nail-files-and-buffers/cushion-nail-files/TROPIC2.html
Any suggestions as to where I could find the largest of the three springs in the bobbin winder part? (The spring you are working on at 13:48) Mine snapped into two pieces and and I can't seem to find a replacement anywhere.
Try Central Michigan Sewing supply, they have a lot of Singer repro parts. You may need to grab one from a 15 class machine. Also, you can look on ebay for parts.
@@BobFowlerWorkshop Is the spring from a 15 class the same as a 66? Or are you saying I should replace the whole bobbin mechanism with one from a 15?
Help me....i need Bonbin winder how send picture
For the bobbin follower spring, mine looks that the spring is not working as it should. On nowadays spring, what would be the replacement for it? Thanks.
It depends which spring. Some are available as replacement parts, some are not. Check Central Michigan Sewing Supplies on the web.
@@BobFowlerWorkshop thank you so much!!!!
Do you know where I can buy a new spring for my 1919 model 66 red eye bobbin winder?
My first place to look would be Central Michigan Sewing Supplies.
Why would you not take that shaft apart and fix the tire wheel?
Because there is no way of non-destructively taking it apart and the supply of replacement parts dried up half a century ago.
Do you have a video for the bobbin winder for the Singer 99? I disassembled it and can’t put it back.😩
Rhonda, email me a picture of the parts so I can figure out which video to point you towards. argosybob@gmail.com. I can help!
@@BobFowlerWorkshop thank you so much, I sent you both a video and photo, I hope it goes through.
@@rhondamercado7527 didn't come through, try just a photo first to argosybob@gmail.com
Is it ok to just soak everything in white vinegar? Is that safe for these parts? Thx
I wouldn't. Vinegar is acetic acid, and soaking these parts in acid won't do the plating much good (nor any bare steel, for that matter). You're much better off using hot water and a degreaser like Dawn dish soap and a nylon scrub brush to get off the nasty stuff, then use your favorite metal polish to shine it up. Ju8st make sure you rinse in hot water and dry thoroughly. I use compressed air to blow them dry.
@@BobFowlerWorkshop thx. Do you recommend Wenol polish or any other one? Thanks for your amazing videos, will be watching lots of them from now on, so happy to have found them!
I need sparepart the last vidoe
Which part are you looking for?
use some light man.