A history of the philosophy of happiness

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    Philosophers have suggested various ways to live, and attitudes to hold, in order to maximise happiness. Here I go though what many of them have said over the years in the western world, starting with Socrates.
    I probably should not have written the notes with the dates of all the people I planned to talk about - I used few of the dates, and ended up being distracted by them.
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    • @arnijulian6241
      @arnijulian6241 Рік тому

      Funny thing is stoicism isn't always used for the pursuit of happiness if even often though can help.
      I'm rather stoic but I see it as a means to control yourself to make a better decision based on your & other experiences.
      To put mind before sentiment to gain a better outcome.
      Honestly everyone want happiness but it is fleeting thing you should recall fondly & enjoy when you can but life is much easier if you are content.
      Hardship will come but the stoic prepares for it to challenge it unlike other philosophies or beliefs that avoid hardship or think hard ship is a punishment for original sin or default state.
      Being an Englishmen i certainly am stoic but I consider it more tool in my assortment of mentalities to adopt in life depending on what the moment calls for.
      I'm a private person with my emotions want & cares to those not familiar-important to me but my mind I share freely for recollection from memory is marvellous thing we should all share freely even if some fantasists don't like it as it doesn't conform to their false comforts like religion or some contrived hoopla.
      Do I belief in an personified great sage like the early Greek stoic then off course not but the Romans refined it to a very useful mind set in trying times.
      Stoicism is for the Person that want to achieve against great odds not because they are guaranteed success but that challenges of life present opportunity to put your mental preparations against.
      People think me soulless or uncaring but if I knew what was coming & steered myself for it then why would lose composure at what came to be?
      When what comes is known & new I simply treat it as another trail to consider to be better prepared for in the future.
      mind I am flawed so even I lose my composure in the most trying of times on occasion.
      I'm only Human but you will be surprised what a mere human can achieve & do that will surprise.
      Christian haven't even accepted reality craving non existence of the afterlife.
      They fear defeat so much that they do not participate in life which death is a part off.
      They crave a probable fantasy of a perfect paradise that has no evidence or grounding.
      The ancients has their God's but even they openly questioned if they are real unlike those of the church for Abrahamic faith to not have blind fate is worse then any sin being laughable in it's inability to consider.
      Be content & know what you can & can't do then perhaps you should aim for happiness if that is your goal.
      Happiness is secondary to what I desire that I prefer to keep private but to those I trust & hold dear to me.

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    • @elmaxidelsur
      @elmaxidelsur Рік тому +2

      ok, so the stoics got it right, thanks.

  • @monkofmayhem1373
    @monkofmayhem1373 Рік тому +250

    25% on topic, 75% side track. Perfect, don’t ever change Mr.Beige

    • @12many4you
      @12many4you 7 місяців тому +1

      And all that in an hour long rant. Absolute perfection

  • @Oxnate
    @Oxnate Рік тому +268

    Dang. If I knew that sending Lindy a new computer would result in an hour long video, I'd have sent him a computer years ago.

  • @Sari36YT
    @Sari36YT Рік тому +356

    Finally, a classic, long-form Lindybeige video! This is what we want. This is what we need.

    • @jeremyayers5353
      @jeremyayers5353 Рік тому +12

      This is what we crave

    • @danbublol
      @danbublol Рік тому

      This is what turns us on

    • @Lewdog.
      @Lewdog. Рік тому +3

      His long forms make my week
      We need to clone him

    • @GetterRay
      @GetterRay 11 місяців тому +2

      Speak for yourself, I'm still waiting on another dance video.

  • @IronKilt
    @IronKilt Рік тому +215

    Loyd is back in longform talking about philosophy! This pleases me greatly.

  • @BenjaminEmm
    @BenjaminEmm Рік тому +258

    A one hour LindyBeige video? Consider me happy!

  • @stevenwiederholt7000
    @stevenwiederholt7000 Рік тому +489

    When I was in Basic Training I learned what it took to be happy. A Cold Coke, A Snickers Bar, 10 minutes without someone yelling at you.

    • @garrysekelli6776
      @garrysekelli6776 Рік тому +7

      Haven't tried it yet but I hear that if you stuff your spacebar in Taylor swift that that is the key to happiness. Also you can substitute for your favorite personal singer.

    • @casamurphy
      @casamurphy Рік тому +1

      Watching the weird Trump cult lose their minds over Taylor Swift's suggestion that people vote is quite amusing.

    • @More_Row
      @More_Row Рік тому +7

      Suffering in a planned willingness kind of way often can lead to some happiness after or breaks during. Not just because of the pause, but also your assessment of how well you are holding up considering.

    • @stevenwiederholt7000
      @stevenwiederholt7000 Рік тому

      @@More_Row
      "OMG, What Have I Gone And Done!" Aug 25 1967 Lackland AFB(my 1st night in basic I can Still picture it in my head today.
      Over the decades I have yet to meet a Vet who has not said something similar to that.
      Thing is, being in the Military is a lot like sex (You ARE going to get screwed at some point). You can read about it,, watch movies about it, Think about it talk about it. BUT unless you have experienced t, you have No Clue.

    • @jonnick3634
      @jonnick3634 Рік тому +13

      Same applies if you live in the Balkans

  • @Zakalwe-01
    @Zakalwe-01 Рік тому +46

    Having backed a copy of Lindy’s Hannibal book, I’m finding stoicism to be a vital coping mechanism 😁.

  • @colinmackay92
    @colinmackay92 Рік тому +37

    Incredible to see these classic Lindybeige videos returning

  • @nialltownley1788
    @nialltownley1788 Рік тому +51

    This just in: people who enjoy thinking about things think the best way to be happy is to spend lots of time thinking about things!

    • @hughbarton5743
      @hughbarton5743 Рік тому +11

      I think they may well be right.

    • @drugleman601
      @drugleman601 9 днів тому

      Well, as thinking creatures, I'm not so sure what else we'd do with our time.

  • @colonelkernel2959
    @colonelkernel2959 Рік тому +22

    You released this video on the very same day I was assigned a paper on happiness in my ethics class. I clapped in excitement. Thanks.

    • @tishnambala6403
      @tishnambala6403 3 місяці тому

      Kindly share your assignment paper i see if I will ace mine

  • @arlen_95
    @arlen_95 Рік тому +5

    Thank you, Lindy!
    You put out the exact right video, right when I needed it most :)

  • @jeremyayers5353
    @jeremyayers5353 Рік тому +42

    Lindybeige is so British, he’s always gotta make a stab at the French 😂

    • @cadileigh9948
      @cadileigh9948 Рік тому +2

      I suspect you mean English, The Celtic colonies have a long history of getting on well with the French

    • @Arkantos117
      @Arkantos117 Рік тому +7

      @@cadileigh9948 True the French would occasionally use the Irish rebels as cannon fodder.

    • @DonaldoJTrumpet
      @DonaldoJTrumpet 11 місяців тому +1

      @@cadileigh9948 The English colonised nowhere in Great Britain apart from England, and the plague of Justinian cleared the way for that. The Normans did.

    • @cadileigh9948
      @cadileigh9948 11 місяців тому

      we call everyone over the border Sais which you could say is equally inaccurate as describing Lindybeige as British but it is correct Cymraeg@@DonaldoJTrumpet

  • @edgarbumblefoot7467
    @edgarbumblefoot7467 Рік тому +120

    A Beige Interpretation of Happiness is happiness itself.

    • @Neetru
      @Neetru Рік тому +1

      This

    • @kinchan4548
      @kinchan4548 Рік тому +2

      I learn most of my life stuff base on Lindy's rambling. It's life changing

  • @colegudding9510
    @colegudding9510 Рік тому +9

    I did not know how badly I wanted LindyBeige to do sock puppet theater, but after that peripatetic bit I am convinced it would be excellent!

  • @raphaelvulfs5467
    @raphaelvulfs5467 Рік тому +5

    I have not started the video yet but seen a 1-hour video from LindyBeige about philosophy makes me happy. I missed those! Please keep them coming!

  • @Champ-0999
    @Champ-0999 Рік тому +10

    To be honest I'm a bit disappointed that there wasn't even a mention of non-western philosophies, but I understand that creating a continuous narrative is better for a video, and there wouldn't be any time to talk about everything else anyway, as one hour is already a lot. Still, I hope there will be a follow up video talking about more perspectives on this topic from around the world

    • @AverageAlien
      @AverageAlien 9 місяців тому +3

      If its non western its probably irrelevant

    • @EuTrabalhoParaSagres510
      @EuTrabalhoParaSagres510 8 місяців тому +2

      It's Lindy.... If its not British (preferably English) it's probably barely worth a mention. So you're lucky 😅

  • @lilacheaven222
    @lilacheaven222 Рік тому +4

    Finding the root of psychological distress is important though. It may not be enough to make it go away but working on ways to understand what happened, how it affects you and finding ways, be it exercises or medication, to ease that distress is crucial.

  • @JesseP.Watson
    @JesseP.Watson Рік тому +15

    I came for the curiosity wall backdrop. It is unrivalled, peerless even. How I applaud the wall of Lloyd! All praise Lloyd's curious vertical visual collection!

  • @livingbeings
    @livingbeings Рік тому +2

    I understand your distaste for philosophy in modern practice, but your philosophical videos have always been my favorites. Looking forward to more like this. Thank you.

  • @StonedWidowOnDoom
    @StonedWidowOnDoom Рік тому +9

    Stoic philosophy and Nietzsche helped me to overcome a lot of things that held me back. Nietzsche liked to dance a lot. He had a lot of examples linked to dancing. In some cases, he said musicians and dancers are closer to the Ubermensch as anyone else can be.
    I saw a theatrical play where this Nietzsche figure described the core of his philosophy the best, in my opinion. My philosophy is a thin rope stretched across an abyss (Nihilism). With this rope, you can cross this abyss and dance with joy while you do.
    Have to say, even when philosophers are obvious, if you never got in contact with these concepts you will never know it is obvious and even miss it. We only know some philosophy is wrong, because we see people experimenting with these concepts and either got happier or not. In my opinion, philosophy is important for all.

    • @forthrightgambitia1032
      @forthrightgambitia1032 Рік тому

      By all accounts he just danced by himself though. He also saw laughter as important.

    • @StonedWidowOnDoom
      @StonedWidowOnDoom Рік тому

      @@forthrightgambitia1032 Didn't know that. Fits his character, I guess. :^)

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 Рік тому +1

      Like Lindy dancing in a shiny new suit of armour.

  • @valentinozoboli4592
    @valentinozoboli4592 Рік тому +26

    A one hour LindyBeige drop! Lets gooooooo.

  • @dappledlight8073
    @dappledlight8073 Рік тому +2

    I feel like this was an hour long video teasing a second video. And I am here for it!

  • @LaneLibra
    @LaneLibra Рік тому +9

    Thank god... we finally got a proper video.

  • @coreyblaisdell
    @coreyblaisdell Рік тому +12

    First off, I'm a long-time viewer and glad to see another long video. However, I have to say that this is a very old fashioned and wiggish version of the history of philosophy. I am by no means a Christian (agnostic bordering atheist), but the description of the impact of Christianity in this video completely leaves out the fact that almost all modern western moral values are based on ideas that are inherently Christian, even if modern atheists may prefer to call them "humanist." Of course, many bad ideas have also been justified through religion, but Christianity was the basis for abolishing slavery and for the general idea in the west that all people have inherent value. I recommend checking out the book "Dominion" by Tom Holland (an actual full-time historian) if you want a much more historically accurate view of the Christian impact on the evolution of western philosophy.

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 Рік тому

      True. I just thought it was too obvious.
      Neat that you picked it out.

    • @GooglyEyedJoe
      @GooglyEyedJoe Рік тому +1

      Lindy has always had a chip on his shoulder about religion, it came to the surface in this video.

    • @Arete1
      @Arete1 11 місяців тому

      Lindy is just your typical snarky british materialist. That whole nation is epitomized by people like Bertrand Russell

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 11 місяців тому

      @@GooglyEyedJoe Religion is one thing. Knowing that Jesus Christ came to save him and accepting it is another.

    • @1v966
      @1v966 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@myparceltape1169wdym know? I don't think you would be able to find an honest even very old fashioned Christian scholar like Thomas Aquinas claiming to KNOW that, you're supposed to believe, right?

  • @robwalker4452
    @robwalker4452 Рік тому +5

    Lindybeige has made LindyGOLD with this one. Love the subject and the presentation so much... this man DEFINITLEY has more than 1 fan.

  • @Brave_Sir_Robin
    @Brave_Sir_Robin Рік тому +11

    Lindy’s sweater game is unparalleled

  • @user-uo9yb2qx8z
    @user-uo9yb2qx8z Рік тому +12

    I want a playlist of all Lindy 45 min+ videos to sleep to.

    • @rubenskiii
      @rubenskiii Рік тому

      Just watch his video about beds, that will do it.

    • @anneominous7172
      @anneominous7172 Місяць тому

      Dear friend, the outro will never let that happen.

  • @whatevsimbulletproof
    @whatevsimbulletproof 11 місяців тому +2

    Love hearing your long talks!

  • @charlesporsbjer2416
    @charlesporsbjer2416 Рік тому +3

    It's funny I never realized until now that the whole "Law of attraction" philosophy is pretty much an exact opposite of the stoic philosophy or even buddhist philosophy. AMAZING VIDEO NIKOLAS!

  • @sststr
    @sststr Рік тому +1

    Remembering self vs. experiencing self - when I did my Ironman, spectators put up all kinds of signs and write stuff on the street in chalk to encourage the athletes, and the one that stands out to me is "Pain is temporary, victory is forever!"

  • @bigboi9997
    @bigboi9997 Рік тому +4

    Finally a lindybeige philosophy video! Waiting years for this one

  • @SplendidFellow
    @SplendidFellow Рік тому +3

    Excellent summary of a lot of philosophies, Lindybeige! And I've missed this long-form lecture content. Bravo!

  • @chriscookesuffolk
    @chriscookesuffolk Рік тому +21

    Only 5 minutes in and already learning more than the combined pearls of wisdom. This makes me happy.

    • @VosperCDN
      @VosperCDN Рік тому

      His explanation of Stoicism is probably the simplest I've seen/read so far.
      (edit: spelling)

  • @joshuagarwood9733
    @joshuagarwood9733 Рік тому +2

    Amazing video. I've missed these long form ones!

  • @HanzoChop
    @HanzoChop Рік тому +11

    Lindybeige's left hand is quite the philosopher

  • @MySENNAa
    @MySENNAa Рік тому +17

    OMG FINALLY 1 HOUR OF JUST TALKIN ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @HostileMakeover
    @HostileMakeover Рік тому +23

    My favorite is still Diogenes of Sinope, the Cynic. His interactions with Alexander the Great are hilarious, and his trolling Plato is even better.

    • @jdjones4825
      @jdjones4825 Рік тому

      My all time favourite 😂😂😂

    • @King.Leonidas
      @King.Leonidas Рік тому +2

      sigma male

    • @Dap1ssmonk
      @Dap1ssmonk Рік тому +1

      The wtf fun fact of philosophers, said nothing of import and did nothing of use but he’s funny so we still need to hear about him.

  • @GinoLuccio
    @GinoLuccio Рік тому +4

    Oooh shit, another long Lindy video!
    You sir, made the start of my early weekend a good one.

  • @Simon_Nonymous
    @Simon_Nonymous Рік тому +2

    Thankyou, its so good to see you back! We have missed you. Really enjoyed this video, very very interesting, especially for my wife, who learnt alot !Please do more of this subject xx

  • @TheOldBlackShuckyDog
    @TheOldBlackShuckyDog Рік тому +6

    I’ve always found philosophy interesting. Everything is obvious once it has been said/done/written. But until that point it was likely markedly less obvious. And in terms of what direct impact it has one one’s life, it has as much impact as you let it have.

    • @evghb
      @evghb Рік тому

      Especially ancient greek philosophy, and I find its larger implications more interesting from the perspective of Mazlow's pyramid. Like for the first time in history, to that point, some people had the means and free time to ponder the greater questions of life. 99.99999% of people were still worrying about farming and surviving, but the trend started to shift upward.

  • @TheDigitalStoic
    @TheDigitalStoic Рік тому +2

    "The purpose of life is happiness, which is achieved by virtue, living according to the dictates of reason, ethical and philosophical training, self-reflection, careful judgements and inner calm."
    - Zeno of Citium

  • @gusgusington710
    @gusgusington710 Рік тому +2

    Amazing video! I could watch you talk about any subject for hours! Please keep making these!!!

  • @belloreos1368
    @belloreos1368 7 місяців тому

    Lindy, you're an eccentric man with an amazing beard who rambles confusingly for hours on end about a topic, often touching on the human element of that topic. You've always been a philosophy channel.

  • @montgomeryday
    @montgomeryday Рік тому +2

    I am so glad that to have also discovered Stoicism. I am excited to hear more about what you have to say. Looking forward to it.

  • @mikemorr100
    @mikemorr100 Рік тому +3

    Ayy, Ive been watching past Lindy hour long videos to fall asleep, this week. This is great timing.

  • @oshun459
    @oshun459 11 місяців тому +6

    Started watching this dude from 2014. Definitely the world’s best storyteller, raconteur.

  • @itai4ever16
    @itai4ever16 Рік тому +1

    I am so happy to hear you in a long form video! I missed those a lot.

  • @tomtateson8660
    @tomtateson8660 Рік тому +1

    Great to see you back doing long videos again. An enjoyable and informative perspective as ever.

  • @markwilliams3679
    @markwilliams3679 Рік тому +1

    I’ve recently been getting into reading philosophy so this came out at a perfect time.

  • @godlaydying
    @godlaydying Рік тому +19

    "Eudamonia"
    "No, _you_ da monia."

    • @tomb7901
      @tomb7901 9 місяців тому +1

      LoL. Well, done! 😁

    • @godlaydying
      @godlaydying 9 місяців тому +1

      @@tomb7901 Thanks!

  • @gireeshbogu8580
    @gireeshbogu8580 9 місяців тому

    I wish I had a teacher like this. So much fun and wisdom.

  • @Alulim-Eridu
    @Alulim-Eridu Рік тому +1

    I’ve incorporated the Delphic maxim “Know Thy Self” into one of my tattoos.
    But it’s written in an old Freemasonic script.
    So it just looks like part of the design of the rest of the tattoo

  • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
    @The_Opinion_of_Matt 11 місяців тому

    This video is the first of your's that I've watched with my headphones on. Just wanted to say that it has, by far, the best audio quality I've heard from any UA-cam video. It sounds like you are in the room with me. It is so good that it confused me at first because it sounded like the audio was from the room I'm in and not from the headphones. I had my wife listen as well and she said, without prompting, that it sounded like you are in the room with us. My wife also loves your sweaters!

  • @Woozy.0
    @Woozy.0 7 місяців тому

    My heart has grown 3 sizes and my brain is purring like a chinchilla since this channel has returned. Thank you Lindy!

  • @polartechie
    @polartechie Рік тому +2

    I am absolutely adding an Etheral entity with vacuum attack to the Campaign. Thank you Lindy

  • @jakobfredriksson2272
    @jakobfredriksson2272 Рік тому +2

    Yes! I've missed a background full of pictures/stuff instead of books (for some reason). Now I'm going to watch the actual video.

  • @ThePhilosophicalLens1
    @ThePhilosophicalLens1 2 місяці тому

    In this video, I sense a profound message about the philosophy of life, which is the balance between effort and letting go. This philosophy not only drives us to achieve our goals but also teaches us to enjoy the journey. It reminds us that, despite the challenges and difficulties life may bring, the key is to maintain inner peace and never lose sight of what truly matters. Sometimes, success doesn’t come from achieving everything we desire, but from the ability to accept and live harmoniously with what we have, while constantly growing as individuals each day

  • @More_Row
    @More_Row Рік тому +3

    Awesome video Lloyd. Well done for choosing the topic and going through and condensing it more succinctly from each of the actors you choose to talk about, It did give me some fleeting good feelings.
    Although my brain instantly trying to pull me back to my depressed anxious state. Noticing patterns or objectivity I feel you skipped a bit. But that can relate to stoicism in a way so i'm also excited for that. Cheers

  • @40johnson87
    @40johnson87 Рік тому +2

    Crazy, I just started rewatching some of his old videos the other day and started reading Plato yesterday. Wild coincidence to see this get uploaded lol

  • @MrDowntemp0
    @MrDowntemp0 11 місяців тому +1

    I am EAGERLY awaiting your deeper dive into the stoics

  • @brandoncaulfield9617
    @brandoncaulfield9617 Рік тому +2

    Really appreciate the video lloyd! Amazing work as always

  • @LeandroCapstick
    @LeandroCapstick Рік тому +15

    I thought Aquinas' main contribution was his study of Aristotle, not the stoics.

    • @theangel666100
      @theangel666100 Рік тому +2

      Yeah I can't find any info about Thomas Aquinas bringing about the stoics online. Maybe he made a mistake here ?

    • @yeetoburrito9972
      @yeetoburrito9972 Рік тому +5

      I haven't seen the whole video yet, but Aquinas is known for reconciling Aristotelian philosophy with Christian thought, I'm not sure about stoics, I've never heard anything about his connection with stoicism :)

    • @philippugh9159
      @philippugh9159 Рік тому +3

      That's correct. In fact, it was Augustine who Christianized the Stoics, along with Boethius who is best characterized as a Christian Stoic.

    • @Ninja-Alinja
      @Ninja-Alinja Рік тому +2

      20:09 Lloyd mentions Augustine, the Berber, condemning Stoics, and then suddenly brings up Thomas Aquinas and then a few minutes on he get to TA, he just got the two confused I think.

    • @agbook2007
      @agbook2007 7 місяців тому

      This. Lloyd did surprisingly well overall but got into the weeds on this one.

  • @kmr8740
    @kmr8740 7 місяців тому

    Your delivery is dynamic, entertaining and informative. You're obviously very knowledgeable too. Great chronology of philosophers' views. 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @eliasabbas8450
    @eliasabbas8450 5 місяців тому

    20:43 I think this is the first time I've ever seen you stumble and I used to watch you a lot years ago haha. Interesting video so far.

  • @theeyehead3437
    @theeyehead3437 Рік тому +2

    "The Enlightenment was a British thing" is the most British thing I've ever heard

  • @purshottamadevadhikar5035
    @purshottamadevadhikar5035 Рік тому +4

    Lindy the enlightenment wasnt just "a british thing". Descartes and Kant were 2 of the enlightenments biggest thinkers. Surely England, France and Germany played pretty equal roles in the enlightment. Even italy contributed with thinkers like Beccaria.

  • @niniv2706
    @niniv2706 11 місяців тому +1

    Looking fwd for the follow up to Stoicism ... Mr Beige that was a pleasant experience .

  • @Jsi01
    @Jsi01 Рік тому +1

    Great! A nice long video. I rewatch each one at least 10 times and sometimes fall asleep to them, this is nice to mix it up. Thanks Lloyd.

  • @hubertbreidenbach
    @hubertbreidenbach Рік тому

    The points at the end about fulfilment through crisis and kindness; they put the cherry on the cake of an excellent discussion.

  • @nicholasricardo8443
    @nicholasricardo8443 Рік тому +7

    Lloyd I do think you're disregarding an awful lot of philosophical ideas within Christianity that deal with epistemology, metaphysics, and ethics, just within the context of Biblical exegesis and theological writings. I do agree that Augustine and Aquinas are probably the most important two Christians to cover, but there are a great many Catholic philosophers.

  • @ZestonN
    @ZestonN 11 місяців тому

    Lindy actually explained Stoicism better than most Stoic Channels. :)

  • @ozelhassan8576
    @ozelhassan8576 Рік тому +1

    I really enjoyed this and I like listening to what you have to say, usually I won’t watch a hour or more of a other content creators videos but yours always. I can’t wait for the next episode. Thanks very much. 👍👍✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨

  • @rubenskiii
    @rubenskiii Рік тому +1

    Your poin about blame culture is quite interesting, it ties into something i am having a bit of trouble with in personal life. No parent is perfect, but some are very far removed from perfect. I had one of the latter.
    And in therapy it's about that a lot. It's weird because the blame is justified, but what then? It's something i had a lot of discussion about with my therapist. And what he said might be helpful for others: being able to pin why you do, think or feel certain things on someone's (past) behavior towards you is not so much about blame itself, but about understanding where your behavior comes from. It gives more understanding of the self. Being able to understand how the things are wired in your brain can give you a more objective (Stoic?) viewpoint on that. Knowing the root cause helps a lot with adressing problems.
    But before you can do that it is important to understand what has happened to you, and by who. Especially with people who you care about it can be easier to just point the blame inwards.
    Instead of understanding that you do a certain thing because in the past certain behavior by for example a parent made that the best reaction you just see yourself as a fool that can't be normal. And that obviously is detrimental to oneself. So a certain amount of blame when it's justified is good. As with almost all things it is about the measure of it and what you then do with it. Just blaming your parents for making you miserabele and then calling it a day is obviously not the answer. Blame is a tool, not a goal.

    • @katyamohina6145
      @katyamohina6145 Рік тому +1

      Yes. And it is also about having emotional experience of it (rightful anger and blame that were denied to a person when they were a child, which essentially lead to their current traumatized condition).
      Shaming blame is stopping person in their first steps of recovery.

  • @Alfenium
    @Alfenium 11 місяців тому +2

    Never trusting an agent sounds like sound advice actually.

    • @Angry_People_Media
      @Angry_People_Media 11 місяців тому

      Did he remove it?

    • @trogdor8764
      @trogdor8764 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Angry_People_MediaOnly watched a third of it, intended to finish it this morning but found that it was made private

    • @Angry_People_Media
      @Angry_People_Media 11 місяців тому +1

      @@trogdor8764 Similar thing happened to me, I was a little disappointed I couldn't finish it last night

    • @cryhavocandletslipthedogso1873
      @cryhavocandletslipthedogso1873 11 місяців тому

      Apparently he privated it, for some reason we're not privy to.
      It's not like he owes us an explanation, but if you happen to read this, Mr. Lindy of the Beige, a one-liner would be appreciated

  • @erichammer5502
    @erichammer5502 11 місяців тому

    Glad to see the return of long form content as well! Thank you sir!
    I am a little surprised your history doesn't include David Hume or the great Adam Smith. Then again, if you are summarizing based on the book I am a lot less surprised; Smith's Theory of Moral Sentiments is unknown to most philosophers, and David Hume is "improbably baroque" and thus rather hard for most of them.

  • @joezephyr
    @joezephyr Рік тому

    Reading the titles at the end would have made me happy thank you

  • @mikkel6938
    @mikkel6938 Рік тому +1

    Great video Lindy! I do love a good talk on philosophy.
    Now I'm interested in hearing about your thoughts on eastern philosophy such as from hinduism and buddhism. I came to have somewhat of an understanding of these, mainly by listening to the late Alan Watts. I'm assuming you're aware of him, he has had a lot of great long audio files uploaded here on youtube. I suspect you hold a critical view of these types of mystical ideas, but also that you will see a lot of similar conclusions as to what stoicism gives us. Alan has a way of turning the mystical into something more practical I think. Cheers!

  • @martinm3474
    @martinm3474 10 місяців тому

    Wonderfully shallow, great listening during supper of Tomato soup and grilled cheese sandwiches. Gratitude for your style, it helps my balance of energy and I find some happiness within this.

  • @dmk_games
    @dmk_games Рік тому +3

    Fun fact: (maybe it will be mentioned in the video) - Socrates didn’t write stuff down. Most of the stuff attributed to him is from the works of Plato which used a character named Socrates (who was Plato's teacher). (And other stories starring socrates).

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 Рік тому

      The dialogues, pre-Windows.

    • @1v966
      @1v966 Рік тому +5

      could have watched at least the first three minutes first bro

  • @SpeakyDeak
    @SpeakyDeak Рік тому +1

    lindy cares about our happiness! that makes me happy, nice one, i''m gonna wear beige today.

  • @TheLuigiBrother77
    @TheLuigiBrother77 Рік тому +2

    8:08 Aristotle didn't suggest they were smack in the middle. Cowardice for example was the vice, further away, foolhardiness was the anti-virtue, closer to the virtue, and courage the virtue

  • @TheIgnoramus
    @TheIgnoramus Рік тому

    IMO most important video you’ve ever made. Thank you for this entertaining compilation that took me half a decade to sparse out😂. The separation of memory and object experience is a prime question. The feedback of the body, vs the remembrance of the mind. Time perception. In my humble opinion. The Stoics resonate the most with me. If you assume you will always have ignorance within yourself; Stoicism, with a healthy dose of utilitarianism, humanism, and skepticism; A removal from the dichotomy of forced perception, seems the only answer to suffering/the inequality of placement of the individual. One must be able to objectively feel and accept their emotions/situation, as well as practice the opposite when necessary. Balance. Purpose in all things. Unity. The hole in the human heart, inherent separation, can only be filled by the experience of others.The human internal mind, can only heal through its own will, and acceptance of both suffering, and choice, but one can not reach correct conclusions without the other. The Oroborus. This could be expanded to the very analogy of the universe, but this ignoramus waxes poetic on this topic. I Look forward to the next video.

  • @stadtbekanntertunichtgut
    @stadtbekanntertunichtgut Рік тому +2

    Good summary Andy!
    Thanks a lot.

  • @nate665
    @nate665 Рік тому

    Just when you really need a new Lloyd video, there he is.

  • @answers_to_penguin
    @answers_to_penguin 6 місяців тому

    The part you referred to as nonsense in the edit basically describes virtue ethics, which is also concerned with happiness in the sense of eudaimonia.
    The mark of an anglophone philosopher is being able to refer to Kant using the correct pronunciation with a straight face

  • @el_wumberino
    @el_wumberino Рік тому

    I shall wait in stoic patience for your next video on philosophy.

  • @mk-ki3jc
    @mk-ki3jc 8 місяців тому

    This man is whats known as a "human encyclopedia." Us mere mortals could only hope to be so knowledgeable

  • @donataspabreza
    @donataspabreza Рік тому

    About finding things that happened to you in the past, that would explain why you act and feel how you do. It can result in blaming and resentment, but it's not the point. When something happens to you that you can't understand why, you might have reacted in a way that makes you think of your self in a bad way and feel bad about your self and act according to how you feel about that old thing that happened to you. The point is to find in your self the ability to react to that as a grown person, not as a child - show healthy anger towards what happened to you instead of being resentful and sad about it. Instead of being a victim, that is a constructed personality shaped by what happened in the past, return to what you are underneath that construct. Ore something like that. Eckhart Tolle talks a lot about this and I wish this kind of philosophy was included in this video.

  • @cuddlemuffin44
    @cuddlemuffin44 Рік тому +2

    The opportunity to wear an authentic, shiny suit of armor while philosophizing on happiness… was sadly missed.

  • @perniciouspete4986
    @perniciouspete4986 Рік тому +27

    No, the 5 elements are earth, fire, air, water, and Leeloo.

    • @TomFynn
      @TomFynn Рік тому +6

      Lets not forget the sixth element which is surprise.

    • @donweatherwax9318
      @donweatherwax9318 Рік тому +4

      No one expects a one-hour-long Lindybeige video!!

    • @Bexebeche
      @Bexebeche Рік тому

      It's Heart. Duh. Go Planet!

  • @charliecharliewhiskey9403
    @charliecharliewhiskey9403 Рік тому +2

    In 2024 true happiness will be receiving a copy of "In Search of Hannibal" :^)

  • @Knaeggebein
    @Knaeggebein Рік тому

    Thank you for mentioning Freud's Unconscious being largely inspired by Schopenhauer's concept of Will. It's quite a niche and controversial topic (even here in Germany) so I am happy for every mention Schopenhauer gets. Quite the underrated fellow.

  • @michiganmafia
    @michiganmafia Місяць тому

    For me, its the belief that the purpose of Life is whatever You want it to be, that helps me maintain happiness

  • @christopherhancock9041
    @christopherhancock9041 Рік тому

    thank you for pointing out a few names I may have overlooked.
    terrific video

  • @murrayscott9546
    @murrayscott9546 Рік тому +1

    Like Einstein was actually quite a spiritual personal person but also rational and analytical. They aren't necessarily separated. One can be both.

  • @katyamohina6145
    @katyamohina6145 Рік тому

    If we look at people suffering from mental conditions through the lens of trauma therapy - blame, when rightly put, is not the last step, but the beginning.
    For people that experienced continuous childhood trauma it is sometimes rather difficult to conjure anger, which is rather potent and important step in recovery. Not the last step, but one of the first ones. Blame, then, becomes initial spark for this natural anger (that is often denied to children when they are wronged and rightfully experience it, which is the reason why they can't have access to it in the first place).
    Saying that blame won't help to a person that tries to resolve their condition caused by childhood trauma is the actual thing that won't help and stall their potential progress.
    Even if somebody disagrees with the premise that there is actually somebody to blame they can't deny its practicality for the purpose of resolving or alleviating consequences of one's mental condition and, as a result - improving one's happiness.

  • @feckneddy
    @feckneddy Рік тому +2

    I have more than doubled my knowledge of Philosophy. That's Monty Python and Lindybeige .

    • @feckneddy
      @feckneddy Рік тому

      I've met Bentham He was in a box at the entrance hall to UCL.

  • @renaigh
    @renaigh 8 місяців тому

    A Fatalistic Cyberborg once said "You may think yourself happy but you don't really believe it, you only know what Happiness feels like after it's gone"

  • @markswitzer2769
    @markswitzer2769 Рік тому

    Having read a lot of stoic literature, I cannot say that the primary point is the avoidance of pain, it's very much that your happiness should only come from that which you have control over.