NEVER TRUST YOUR AGENT: how human interests never align
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Here I warble on about how people's motives are never the same, and why teamwork can be fraught with difficulty. Should an actor get an agent? Perhaps not.
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My parents were trying to sell their house about 8 years ago, and the people interested came through with a very low offer. My parents were surprised at that, and looked into the matter and it turned out that the house agent for us was also working for the people trying to buy the house!
Illegal in Canada
@@gavinjenkins899 Still happens when it's illegal to directly represent both parties, as a lot of housing agents know each other, and help close the deals quickly. In the end, housing agents are overrated, you can do most of it yourself, get a better price, and save a lot on the commission.
@@gavinjenkins899Illegal in many places, which is not to say that it didn’t happen.
Sorry to hear that Mr US airsoft :(
@@davidweihe6052I love that argument. "It's illegal for them reject hiring me for being black!" - They'll say its because you're missing the "ISO One-Hand-Clapper" certification that the ultimate hire did have, and call it a day. Don't be naive.
Finally, someone that understands the intricate social struggles of lighthouse keeping.
This topic is literally called "principal-agent problem". Incentives are so impossible to get right (aligned).
This is vintage lindybeige. A topic I wasn't thinking about and probably never would, but enraptured me nonetheless.
Beware the new agent who says, “I think this is the start of a beautiful friendship.”
Beware the agent who says, "I am shocked, SHOCKED, to find that gambling is going on here."
@RickJaeger Beware of the agent who says "Here's looking at you, kid".
I love how Lindybeige is a source of varied Wisdom, not just historical insights.
Also insanity, don't forget his genuine insanity. It's the secret spice you know.
Source: trust me bro
Those are two different things?
With the notable exception of his climate change denial videos if those are still around and I remember them correctly...
@@davidpihlaja9878 That, and his childish refusal to use a cellphone based on how exciting and fulfilling it is for him to not have contact with people.
His example of waiting at a train station with no idea of whether the person he's waiting for will be on the train is such a poor excuse for not liking that sometimes people need to contact you, or vice-versa. Any adult that utterly refuses to use a cellphone of some kind needs to think critically about the pros and cons, because the objective losses vastly outweigh any perceived gains
They may never perfectly align, but if there is ENOUGH overlap you will probably get a better outcome than trying to do it by yourself. Figuring out whether there really is that much overlap is often very difficult, however.
The same goes for politicians. Their job is about maximising the number of people voting for them. That means making as many promises to as many people as possible but never fulfilling those promises, because as soon as they do that those people have no reason to support them any longer. The incentives of their job are aligned for them to promise everything, deliver nothing, and to take credit whenever someone else helps fulfil any of their promises. If anything they'll try to quietly make things worse to bring their cause more support. If you have an important cause for the love of god keep it out of politics or it will never be solved ever.
and when they don't deliver someone will tell you you should have voted for someone better...
ultimately, they pretend not to be responsible
with voting and manufactured consent it's ensured that the interests of as many people as possible is ignored for the gain of others. That's the point
So then, what would you call a man that actually keeps most of said promises, and gives credit to the other persons who help those promises get fulfilled, has a list of problems to solve so long that there is no risk of ever running out of problems, and actively works to reduce the total number of laws thereby promoting simplicity and reducing the number of things 'solved' by politics?
I believe the US has someone like that on the ballot for president this year.
Just because interests don't align perfectly enough for unconditional trust, doesn't mean they don't align more than well enough to get by on a working relationship.
@@r3dp9 Politicians always seem great *before* they get elected, they're not being held to anything they've promised yet. If you're depending on a politician you're better off doing it yourself. Create a business or organisation, or join an existing one for as long as you believe they're still doing the right thing, but politics is worse than doing nothing. Never confuse the idea of doing good with actually doing good, it's easy to get so caught up with the former that you never do the latter.
you don't get it. The participants don't change the game or the bureaucracy or the media that's used to manufacture consent.
In fact the game changes it's participants instead
The media is the message.
Take the subject of this video for example. The agent that 100% aligns their motives with their clients would be a bad agent.
@@r3dp9
@@r3dp9
You realize your comment is effectively worthless as an actual argument right?
Vaguely talking about “a man” who magically does all of these things, but never specifying even their name (or any of the alleged great acts) makes it impossible to verify your claim.
It sounds like religion more than politics.
I learned this lesson in the Army. Throughout my whole career I was stuck with NCOs and Officers whose only concern was embellishing their own careers. They cared not a bit for the people around them. Neither their careers, nor their wellbeing.
So, I left that life behind. I do not regret it.
I love how Lloyd tells a story. No matter what it is, its quite nice to hear him speak.
This is called the Principal-Agent Problem. A well known phenomenon in Controlling. Nontheless very good explanation for a personal point of view
Controlling? What's that?
@@bookranter3488 Dominating, conquering and negotiation, basically power, debt and relations between individuals as they make and break culture.
There is no such thing as perfectly aligned human interests, just like there is no such thing as a perfect circle. The closest you can get though is a healthy marriage. In marriage, you and your spouse will not have aligned interests, but it is possible to have the *honest goal* of aligning interests. If you say "my interests might be different than yours, but I *want* them to be same," your spouse says the same thing, *and you both mean it,* that is a really good first step towards having as perfect a circle as can exist in an imperfect world.
Trust no-one is the correct take away.
A good person gets the best they can without screwing anyone over.
Mum? Dad?
Trouble is, this assumes a definition of 'good person'. We need a pillar or base that enables us to define 'good' as opposed to 'not good - neutral' and 'bad'. Then we need to share that with enough other people to influence additional people for our understanding of 'good'. There are cultures that rate treachery (trickery) as the highest virtue, eg Yali in Irian Jaya.
I've just been listening to sections from Brian Merchant's book about the Luddites where, apart from Lord Byron and a few enlightened mill owners, the establishment of Parliament, Church, and monarchy assumed that, given the chance, you had a duty to maximise profit and minimise wages as that was how the world is and how we should function as human beings (nature red in tooth and claw).
The Old Testament prophets (very interesting to read with a time chart and history book in the other hand) rail against regimes and a majority populace who assume you should make the most of every opportunity and crushed opposition that called for conscience and qualms.
Boris Johnson, as a classics scholar, has a very different core morality from people with a more Judaeo-Christian undergirding to their world view. Concern for others is a weakness and a flaw to be despised and exploited by those who don't care.
The problem for us is... how robust is our understanding of 'a good person'
@@cuebj no assumptions , it's intended as a simplifyed definition.
Repentance is key
@@cuebj As awful as Boris may be, I think he would dispute your characterisation of him as being outside the "Judeo-Christian" paradigm. He's squarely within it, at least in his own opinion.
In yesterday's version when you've said "I'm not going to name the actor and I won't name the agent, but I will name [another actor] this agent manages", I was like "well that kind of gives it away doesn't it"?
I missed it! Who was it? :P
Yes who! I must know!
Depends how many actors that agent represents, doesn't it? I didn't see the previous upload, so maybe it was more obvious than intended.
Daniel Craig!!@@Harudath
Never _bond_ with your agent
😂
Lindy gambled at the Casino Royale and lost
The Name is Bond, Never Bond.
I repeat. Never bond with your agent. Keep everything separate. Sign contracts. Don't regret.
Now im having deja vu
Almost 20 years ago, I picked up a book from a freelance writer's union. In the book was the results of a survey from a few years earlier. It turns out the average income of their members, which included John Grisham and Stephen King, was about $2300. Think about that: INCLUDING John Grisham and Stephen King, who make millions from their writing, the average was $2300. I see nothing at all to suggest it's any different with acting.
Good to have you back.
Love Lindy on a rant, not just because it's entertaining and exciting but because he's usually right on point and factual.
Both the script and the sweater
are noticeably better
My memory is to blame
If the sweater is the same
What quaint lines!
Do you always speak in rhymes?
But why shouldn’t that be on this platform, as we gaze upon comments thereafter, we enjoy real trickles of poetic justice and not copy pasted rubbish for cheap laughter
That's maybe something for chatgpt, putting comments in rhyme
(ChatGPT)Sure, here you go:
In the land of ChatGPT, where words flow like rhyme,
Putting comments in verse, perhaps that's the time.
@@captainzork6109Not a rhyme, cap'n - the consonants aren't quite there.
I never expected this topic to pop up on this channel. Im a photographer that specialises in working with actors and promoting their brand and these stories horrify me- because they are painfully true. I always push actors to put their interests first, and treat themselves like a business. There ARE good agents, but they can m are and break your career.
It’s these same points that have made me avoid agents for my own work.
And as part of a husband wife team looking into UA-cam, it’s super important that we treat UA-cam like a snake.
This is such a brilliant explanation of this problem that plagues so many areas of society, this is an easy share for me.
Thanks Lindybeige!
More people need to know about the principal-agent problem in economics. It also applies to the government.
It applies to everything and I'm scared of the ways it may apply to powerful AI systems.
and real estate. It's terrible there.
@@StroporezAnd the people who control them?
For Agent one could interchange with ‘Member of Parliament’ as a agent of primarily self-interest.
his self interest is to get re-elected so he is beholden to the interest of his constituency.
@@insertedgynamehere6487 Get re-elected on promises, promises, promises.
@@insertedgynamehere6487The MP's interest is to persuade people to re-elect them. They could do it by putting in hard work to represent their constituents' interests and providing demonstrable, well-documented value to them, or they could do almost nothing for four years, then print out a leaflet promising to do all sorts of things after they're safely re-elected - or, better yet, promising that their party leader will do things because then it's not their fault that the Leader let them down...
For most MPs, it's not even them being elected anyway; it's the party, and it doesn't really matter what the individual MP does between election cycles so long as they're not burning down orphanges or something...
then dont re-elect those that dont deliver on their promises u dum dum. ur issue is with democracy, not politicians@@Nuts-Bolts
Democracy is extremly errr basic !
1/ No Authority without consent of Parliament
2/ Free & Fair Elections
3/ Freedom of Speech
4/ Right of Petition
5/ No Private Armies
6/ Independent Judiciary
7/ NO FECKIN TORTURE ! ... remind u of that
8/ No Religous Laws
9/ No State Confiscations
10/ No jail without a fair trial
Before Bill of Rights (1689) the King could do what he wanted with you.
Today we have Human Rights and my Grand Dad and Dad and me in my way have fought for that.
LEST WE FORGET
The last bit about family or any group you're a part of might be the most crucial advice here
Especially artificial groups of complete strangers that have only one vague thing in common, if not entirely nothing in common except for being artificially put into the same group by others.
Rings any bells?
@@Halo_Legendhuh?
Lindybeige trying to collab with tom scott but being rejected is a bit disappointing but also amusing
'More on that one take later'
Just another instance of Tom Scott being _that guy_
@@MaskofPoesy?
Hannibal's and Carthage's interests never aligned completely, that's why they had a falling out...
pls elaborate
What a shame about the Tom Scott collaboration, that sounds like it could've been really cool.
Tom Scott makes short and to the point videos. Lloyd…does not.
@@henrikoldcorn so they would compromise and make a medium length video.
I can sorta see them clashing tbh. It was like the video he did with Chieftain. It just seemed that they were constantly trying to outdo one another.
@@him050 true.
Yep, a new theme for Starsky and Hutch, or a spot of backing work for Joni Mitchell.
(I'll go now.)
UA-cam has decreed that your content must not be seen. I haven't been notified of a single one of your uploads for almost a year.
This is why netflix is giving movie money to literally everyone who could possibly make something for their competitors. Then burying it in a pile underneath some garbage reality program
Good example of misaligned motivations: a letting agency is supposed to act as an intermediary between tenant and landlord, making sure that the tenant pays up in time and that the landlord spends the money needed to keep the premises in good condition.
But what if the letting agency is *owned* by the landlord?
That is not misaligned motivations but conflict of interest.
@@Mr_Sh1tcoinNot sure if there's a real difference between the two?
@@Mad_Elf_0 the formal definition of the term is conflict of interest. Calling it anything else shows inexperience and potentially, a que to your political views; left leaning. A character of the fact that the left misnomers.
I mean letting agents are always the landlords agent and not the tenants agent so -.
“You’ve got amazing talent as a graphic novel artist, I’m writing a script about a Carthaginian leader… our goals very much align”
Is another good example.
OOF
Ackchually, Lloyd was the one approached, so...
@@Sciller4 … at that point he told them that their goals do not align?
yes, I often think about that, every time he uploads in fact
@@MyMy-tv7fd How not to.
I would have great admiration for anyone that can get by financially as a freelance botanist. What would that consist of? Independent consultations for people trying to select house plants or start their own home garden? All without an agent? That would be brutally hard work with no guarantee of demand or success.
if they are really hands on then they are called landscapers.
*see: @CrimePaysBut BotanyDoesn't here on yt.
I know nothing about income derived from UA-cam and not much more about you other than that if you weren’t, you’d have made a fantastic professor. Knowledgeable, and entertaining. A pretty rare combination so I’m glad you are a content provider. 👍🏼
You see that's exactly the issue with this kind of video.
He makes points that sound perfectly resonable and presents them in a professional manner so people will immediately believe him. However, what he's presenting is actually only his own opinion and not some scientic truth that a lecture would typically want to be. If you dive a bit into the whole topic surrounding youtube money, you'll probably find that he paints a very onesided picture that leaves out a lot of points that don't really align with his story. That's true for all the examples in this video but let's take focus on the UA-cam one.
Now, it's true that some networks are only out to milk the creators under contract as much as they can and that was expecially true in the mid 2010. Of course, there are some who still work that way today as well.
However, what Loyd is leaving out is that there are also many networks and agent who really do make the job for their clients easier and enable them. They do this by mostly taking care of paperwork and other background stuff, like sifting through mails, helping with accounting, make sure the videos don't violate any laws and in case of a legal dispute, they often have good ties to very experienced lawyers in the field. They can also help by setting up collaborations with other creators under their contract or bigger entities that operate from outside of the UA-cam space. In general they just take care of the annoying little tasks so the creator can focus on actually creating his content, where they'll also help with technical knowledge or locations to film.
So as you see, the story is really not as onesided as "never trust an agent" and the video is more of a "Lindybeiges bad experiences with agents." than a factual lecture. And sadly, this didn't happen for the first time either. Now, the history related videos are, as far as I can tell, great. No wonder, as that is also the field in which Loyd has by far the most experience and expertise. But many of his videos on philosophy, politics or economics are not on par with that quality and tend to be heavily opiniated, which often leads to being very onside and not balanced.
Not to say that you can't like them or should stop watching Lindybeige. I too like the man's videos a lot and will continue to watch him, even if I might not agree with everything that he says.
I just wanted to let you know that not everything Loyd says is necessarily true so please take his videos on topics aside from archeology and history with a grain of salt.
@@lubue5795 Are you saying that his motives don't align with yours? 🤔
@@lubue5795 Well, I would hope that all of this was the case, him being honest and drawing on his experiences for entertaining videos. That's the best you can hope for what with humans only being human. We'd have a real problem on our hands if our favourite youtubers suddenly became omniscient now wouldn't we?
As for your "scientic truths", I apply the same logic as you do to the sciences: They make points which appear reasonable and professional so that people believe them, likely in a way which is honest, but which is ultimately biased and only their own opinions of the findings while serving their own/organization's interest. Well, unless we're talking about a geometrist giving a lecture on geometry, but those guys are weird.
@@lubue5795the Lindybeige philospohy gauge 1/ obvious 2/ wrong 3/ very clever but so what ? 4/ the one that works...I learn that way.
source: Lindybeige A History of the Philospphy of happiness ..
"Prisoners Dilemma" is all about co-operating but just takes one bad apple
@@lLenn2funny !
I love teaching, I am good. I ran a very large training company for year and did well. Now I freelance when I want, to whom I want, how much I want. Booked through 24 and 50% 25. It is very clear in every conversation with my clients that I help them and they respect me. No expectation either way, that is life
I swear I watched this yesterday....
no you did not, please take your medicine
I think there was a version deleted!
No there was not please take your medicine
I've had two doses of medicine and I don't even know what's real anymore 😅
@@13thcentury Then take it again. No worries, both of us want you to get healthy ;-)
The day that Dune launches and Lloyd puts out a video basically titled "self interest governs all"
There are times where motives align very closely though: the keygrip and sound tech both want their band to look and sound as good as possible to increase the rate of high-paying gigs. The vocalists may bicker amongst themselves about who should get the prestige of lead so the entire band may never be perfectly aligned, but the various members of the support crew (so long as there's only oke per position) will be very aligned in that goal.
Within certain contexts interest often appear to align. But the point of this video is that they still don't because people are individuals. Maybe the sound tech has a crush on a vocalist so they have an interest in making them sound better than the others (or other drama). Maybe they are drying to impress someone with their personal talent so they take actions to make themselves look good that undermine slightly the overall performance.
You can't ever separate a person from the role they are in and say that "within the role" all interests are aligned. Even simply differences in the idea of what is better within that context will create different interests and opposing forces.
As a person with a band which did tours and recorded fancy albums - no.
Most of the support crew are in smaller bands themselves, or are sound techs. Here's the 4 people in your crew:
- Sound tech: wants everything to go smooth so he keeps his job.
- Amps guy: plays guitar in a band. Secretly hopes to be considered as a replacement for your guitarist should things not go well.
- Drums: same as amps guy, but is a drummer. He is also a sound tech, so he wouldn't mind replacing the sound tech as well.
- Driver: wants to get stoned as much as he can until 4 hours before he has to work again.
Free lance moving helper here. Those of us who are free lancers get paid more by the day than hourly employees. The big companies say they will "keep you busy" and you will get "benefits." Truth is that i stay busier than they do and their benefits add up to less than my daily pay. So this is good advice in any field.
I dare say this isn't true for all freelancers. I know a good many freelance artists and coders who frequently have to fall back onto part time jobs to pay rent as there's not enough work coming their way and they are definitely putting more hours in that if they just had one steady job. I guess this very much depends on your field of work along with where you live.
But you'd have to have the self discipline to keep money aside in lieu of sick leave etc.
Its alright mate, you keep being you and we’ll keep hitting the like button.👍
Channels come and go but yours is the most consistent for grabbing my attention.
It seems Lloyd got rid of the references to [REDACTED] in this version, probably a good call, wasn't really essential to making the point.
Well now you've done and rendered the whole thing pointless, haven't you?
...You're right, sorry! @@Sciller4
Can't watch the video yet (time) and only watched the first few minutes of ytd's. I'm pretty sure it's about [REDACTED].
It's ok, bet it's doubleplusgood now.
Now I’m just more curious though
I wish I watched this video yesterday haha
Speaking as a real estate agent, I want to mention that it's important to not spend too much time on the market because the perceived value of a home diminishes the longer it's sat around. The seller can lose more and more bargaining power with a potential buyer, so listing at a price that would likely get in competing offers (ie lower price) can end up being more beneficial than listing at a higher price and negotiating down from there. When listing your own home as an agent, the lack of having to pay a commission does not encourage you to spend more time on the market than if it was a client's- and if you mean spend more time working on the listing before going to the market, well... yeah. You're the agent *and* the client. It's up to the client how much effort they want to put into sprucing up the place before they go live. We can *encourage* them to do more, but we can't force them or anything.
"Speaking as a poopoo peepee kaka" you're the lowest of the low, and this video isn't even about you. Who tf asked.
speaking as an attorney who deals with real estate conflicts, not paying a real estate professional to walk a buyer or seller through a deal is usually a bad idea.
@@greenflagracing7067 Right. If I was suggesting anything to the contrary, I'm not sure where.
@mipmipmipmipmip You mistake clarification for offense.
[…] seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill. - Gildor Inglorion
To which I may add "free advices are seldom cheap" - 59th rule of acquisition.
Oddly the jerks in charge lie to their agents as well. He might have thought he was showing you a good thing.
Lmao, it's a sales job but you think they'd fall for their own pitch? Protip: any business that is worth doing business with takes orders rather than making sales. If there's a "sales" department actively promoting it, it's not that great.
@@Uruz2012 Interesting observation. But Sometimes you did not that a thing existed.
I REALLY like your videos. Thought provoking, topical, timeless. Thank you for your efforts. Take care. Tootles... Wade
First time viewer , enjoyed your wisdom, energy, dalek and sweater.
Everyone is hallucinating. This is a new video.
14:32 This is brilliant - labels do this to bands sometimes as well for the same reasons with the same effect.
Most musicians don’t understand the music industry they are involved with and see “getting signed” as such an immutable win that they jump at the opportunity without considering the possible context and implications.
This was a remarkably well timed video, I'm currently in the process of building a PC so I can start a channel of my own this year. Thanks so much for the heads up Lindy!
Have you started on it already? Prices on 10th generation 4.5ghz i5s. 10th generation cpus are much better than 9th and this specific cpu just kicks ass for the $250-300 whole system price with an audigy and a older GeForce.
@@hicknopunk I didn't know that, thank you for letting me know! No at this point I mostly just have the funding for one but haven't figured out what I'm building just yet.
Did you really comment this again after he deleted the original video? Lmao
@@fullyverified7491 I sure did! If Lindy can re-upload so can I.
Commenting to boost vid and also love every lindybeige video
"you have to get on with other people" -- arrrrgh! true. Especially with not seeing things the same way, and further when an agent leaves you to IMagine what they mean - you see it through your hopes and wishes. That isn't what they are actually saying. Stay alert, ask questions. By the way, beautiful jumper you're wearing.
It’s so odd I have had you subscribed and “belled” for years and yet this is the first video I see of yours in a year or more.
Thanks for the great advice, the main reason agents exist is because they have wormed themselves into industries not because they are necessarily helpful for you. Since being a yter you don't need to find work per se then it makes no sense because these groups have no special in with the industry, the industry is just yt. There's also many ways they can cause problems. All the advertisers who want to have people represent them seem to be mostly scammers, too. So that is not a great route to get extra money that doesn't rely on yt. You could just ask your followers to give you a dollar and keep them from getting scammed out of 50 dollars so you can get that dollar.
Fun fact: the word “agent” comes from the Latin verb “Ago, agere” which means “to do”…. But it doesn’t seem like “agents” live up to the “doing” part
alternative etymology :
"a-" meaning "not" combined with "gent" which is the short form of "gentleman" .... thus "the opposite of a gentleman"
I found this video 12 days after it was uploaded but I was having a terrible day and I genuinely appreciate how you can be so captivating it can fundamentally improve my entire mood
Lindybeige slowly developing class consciousness. He isn't there yet -- but this is a step in the right direction
Brilliant explanation of this matter! This is sincerely best explanation of it I’ve heard since I had a subscription to The Industrial Worker, an anarcho-syndicalist newspaper. Solid!
This puts a real bump in my dream of cloning myself and having a flawless partnership
Lloyd, I may like the french because they don't eat stale biscuts and call them "crumpets," but you are a sincerely wise man.
The critical insight you have in the modern world is something more people have but lack. The young person in the UA-cam web meeting is proof of that.
Blind trust in powerful establishments has been historically dangerous and still is today in our modern world.
Ideally, more people will be connected to ideas of shrewd, logical, and fair thinking than of enthusiastic contribution to a social/political or even mechanical machine in the case the algorithms and leaders will be seen as people who must be responsible for their actions and words instead of our hailing saviors gifted to us from the heaveans to scam us and run off with the proceeds of our hard work.
ok time to watch this again :)
This really breaks the fourth wall.
Having different motives can bring people together. Aligning motives might mean competition.
Didn't expect Lindybeige to address AI's "Alignment Problem"
WHERE IS THE HANNIBAL NOVEL 🤔🤔
Friends and family of mine who were looking forward to it have since died
🤣
He finished the script last year, the artist is working on it right now
Why the re-record? It's not a simple re-upload.
EDIT: I believe I know. In the old one, he mentioned the name of that big intense movie star.
Which one?
It's not about the celebrity; it's about the fine upstanding citizen of the ethnostate who represents him.
@@ugandanknuckkles9667 Charlie Chaplin
Who
@@ShadowGricken one of the 007s
The same thought can be represented by different metaphors - one lives their life on a battlefield, fighting others at all times or - life is an endless rope-pulling contest. I feel like it can lead to a paranoid personality disorder just from thinking how everyone is lying in wait to get you. Human ability to reconcile differences and cooperate with one another is one of the most important traits of our species. It got us to all amazing inventions and objects we created for ourselves. So yes, it is a terrible situation and we need to work against this mindset - "everyone for themselves and against anyone else".
This is only true, if you assume psychological egoism to be an empirical fact, and it simply isn’t. If either altruism or idealism exists, then your motives might very well align completely in some regards. It will probably very rarely be the case with an agent or employer though, despite their claims.
I realised the house agent thing with my first purchase. Luckily when I wanted to sell and buy bigger, I was already in the know. Do your own research, check the history of successful sales in your area. Be patient, and don't allow the agent to influence your sale price. If the Agent wants to bargain, let them do so on their commission.
A collaboration of Lindybeige and Tom Scott?? That would’ve been marvelous!
It’s the same in the music business. Millions of so-called digital distributors promising to promote you for money. The only people who make money are these companies, who exploit the content creator/artist.
I think there's a good point to be made expanding on the common interests of a group. While the interests of a group and the individual may not align on a particular objective, and in fact seldom align perfectly at all, it is often still advantageous to take the hit of small misalignments for the benefit that comes with participating in a group. I think it's especially clear in areas where an individual can do almost nothing about something on their own, but a group can accomplish results that, while not exactly the same as what the individual would wish accomplished, is close enough to be worth participating in.
Thanks Lindy. It's all in the details as per reality. Nothing exists without context.
And yeah, "align well enough" is the goal.
This is an important point. It feeds into the basic fact that life is war, which has been pondered upon by many philosophers over the centuries.
I've re-watched every video you have uploaded at least half a dozen times or more, so I'll watch this one again. Added bonus that this time it's slightly different then yesterday lol.
Thank you for this!
i was inddeed a little bit weary to what point you bring this video. But your last... maybe 30 seconds brought your education from, in my eyes, "true but... not very community friendly" to "YES! THIS!" Most people aren't against you. But be cautious about the ones how say they aren't.
wise words indeed, this applies to recruitment firms too
I was halfway through the video yesterday. I wonder what happened
Last time he named the specific actor who is the "cash cow" in the story today. I guess he decided that made it too easy to identify the specific less successful actor too, even though the A-lister's agent has 26 pages full of dozens of actors per page.
Get along with people. Oh, that is rich!
And, that reminds me, I need to expand the crawlspace. 😂
Depends on the industry, the company, and the person who is the "agent". An agent is by definition a person who acts on behalf of another person or group. An agent is an intercessor who makes life easier for the parties involved.
You should always meet with your agent. Your agent should always be asking you questions and checking in on you. He/she should know you and your circumstances. If he or she doesn't, then he or she is not an agent.
Great Brazil reference at 5:51!
our family are very close and we embrace the fact we are all selfish, but we also realise we have similar motives and it helps to achieve each others goals so that it helps us in turn. We accept we are human and all humans are selfish its how we are made its not something you can change. But we are stil kind to each other and will go out of our way, with respect. I wish all the world and other families lived like that. Like if my brother doesnt want to come out to the family dinner and doesnt give a reason thats fine because thats who he is and he should because he wants to not because everyone forces him to.
That quote at the end sums up the video perfectly
That's why making compromises is an important skill to learn.
Acknowledging where interests diverge allows to clearly define the extent of your agreement.
And don't forget that an agreement (particularly mersonal ones) can be good in the long run, even if it starts badly. Not all people are sharks (apologies to the sharks for using their species name to call some humans)
Very interesting indeed! It's very interesting hearing your perspective as a UA-camr, which is something I suppose not many of us think about when you're climbing on Churchills with Chieftains, or building cool medieval armor!
I also love seeing the lego guy walk across your end card, even after all these years!
A Tom Scott Lindybeige collab would've been great
Fantastic video. Thanks for the great advice Lindy.
How the hell have you made a video that describes exactly my situation!? In another country on theatre tour for a year - I;ve got no agent but my scene partner does. She gets so many calls from her agent desperate to get her more work, but on the other hand, he at least gets a regular 10% of her money. Meanwhile, me, unsigned, sitting pretty! Absolutely awesome to be out of the UK, and living the dream :))
Very wise. Thank you for making this video it will help me for the rest of my life
The enemy of my enemy is not my friend, that would be supposition. They are just the enemy of my enemy.
The enemy of my enemy has motive to do some things which would benefit me aka hinder my enemy 🙂
although noone is a complete enemy - more availablity of resources is often a shared goal even with your direct competitor for those
I was recently made redundant and have been searching for roles since - I felt like I was being "messed around" by recruiters - This video has been very helpful in explaining potentially why I am having this difficulty
context; I work Cybersec, I'm pretty young for the industry
I love this channel for like five years almost it feels like now
And that my friends, is how LindyBeige became a UA-cam influencer! 🎉🎉🎉
This is why I'm a self published author, its a whole lot more work but the freedom is worth it.
I love this creator. Just about everything he has produced offers a great deal of value to myself and my friends. I hope he wasn't or is not getting scammed by mcm grifters. God Speed be with you Lindye😊
..many years ago I got suckered in to a Kickstarter for a graphick novel...
Isom?
Lindybeige: the multiverse
For some reason, my brain included the word "secret" between "your" and "agent". I was very confused for while on why he was talking about MCN and acting agents.
Since there is only one of these on the channel I'll just assume this is a re-upload for some reason. I wish though that Lindybeige would post some sort of explanation for it. Oh well... 😉
Edit: After reading some posts I see both confusion and an answer to it. I STILL wish the host would say as much in the title/description feed. Most UA-camrs do, I know I did when I made content. Not essential I know, but it WOULD save some confusion in the comment section. 😛
Very profound video. I shall revisit it whenever i engage with someone new.
I think dear Lindybeige, that problem is there, same as it was for all my favourite youtubers.
I bet you story goes like this, you are very passionate about sth and try to share your passion with the world, production may be mediocre but your soul is out there. I followed you for years now, i remember when you first uploaded 15 min video...not a 3 min discourse on sandals but a 15 min rambling about some interesting obscure thing. Then one day, and i shit you not, i was excited like hell, first 45-60 min ones, about Hannibal, ladders in siege, white headhunter, gladiators- one could not possibly ask for more.
But there something happened, war in Ukraine, the interviews got many views- of course, but i havent watched a single one of those- too much saturation of the topic as far as im concerned. But thats beside the point- for many youtubers (like Skallagrim, or Big Herc ((prison chanel, very intersting and highly recommendable))) passion became a job. You have your audience, you have your sponsors, so now you have to bang out 3 videos a week and a bunch of shorts too. I get it, thats where money is.
There are very few that still hold fast and resist becoming youtube pest, even fewer that found the middle ground(like Thoughty2 or History Buffs).
I have only one thing i beg of you, because for the longest time you were an absolute ray of sunshine in the medium that is youtube: with all the love in the world- please go back to your old formula ❤
Loads of love from Iceland!!
Many people recognize that when buying or selling a house, their interests are not aligned with those of the real estate agent. However figuring out what the real interests are, and how big the misalignment is, is difficult. When I was selling my apartment with an agent I was initially focused on just what Lindy said. The agent just wants to sell quickly get his share and move on. It sounds logical but in reality the motives may have been different. In my case the agent seemed to like having an extra option in the books and did nothing but a photo in the window and an occasional little visit for the record. It cost him practically nothing just to wait, maybe even similar to the actor story. After some time we found a buyer ourselves without much hassle.
I really enjoy these rants, Nick 😂