... and when he mentioned “... if they can’t see you then you can’t see them...” ... yes, Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Surely this episode is trying to trigger HHGTTG fans?
@@johnthomas7517 "My fantastic stories do not pretend to deal with possible things. They aim indeed only at the same amount of conviction as one gets in a gripping good dream." : H. G. WELLS
I am in awe of anyone who can stand up and talk for 52 minutes nonstop (at high speed), no notes, not repeat themselves, and have something interesting to say.
@@Aithalothes what does he teach? You usually pick up this kind of thing after a few years, but I know hardly anything about the guy despite his regularly going off on tangents.
I feel like the best “invisibility” is something akin to a perception filter from Doctor Who. You aren’t really invisible (so you won’t get the side effects like needing to be naked, not being able to see because your retinas are transparent, etc) but everyone will overlook you. You’re functionally invisible, not actually invisible.
A similar invisibility is in Kagerou Project. Kido has invisibility in being overlooked. Only broken if she or others she is actively making invisible bumps into someone, aka making it impossible to overlook them for a moment.
@@svantlas6034 I wouldn’t consider the Mist a perception filter, it’s more like a straight up magic hallucinogen. The perception filter forces you to ignore things, but the Mist just makes people see things differently. Like Riptide showing up as a baseball bat and also a lacrosse stick at one point. A perception filter would just force people not to look at Riptide at all, while the Mist changes it’s appearance with illusion magic.
@@drjayteamk4531 That is why lindybeige is great. When we think to ourselves it's scattered and messy, rather hard to present, if you just said what you're thinking it might even block your thinking. Lindybeige is that daydream we've all had, presented perfectly and consistently.
It is exactly this phenomenon that makes this the "most British" Lindybeige episode ever. In-depth analysis of a non-problem, combined with an emotional state that approaches a sense of near-terror while contemplating the non-consequences ... performed staggering about in a nightgown (how very Arthur Dent!)
Conspiracy theory: Lloyd has actually invented invisibility (explaining the month long gap in video production) and is now making this video to warn us about its side effects and how he handles this new menace to himself and British society!
havent watched the video but not ALWAYS. like imagine you had the power to get whatever you wanted in life? even if you didn’t use it it’d be constant temptation, and as soon as you did life would lose any value it had before
@@hobbedgoblin10 it would gain a lot of value actually, you would have the omnipotent power to lead humanity to an ideal civilization, and get rid of evil, disease, death etc.
If you've ever played in virtual reality and you had a controller on a desk across the room where you can't see your feet and you can't see your hands but you can just see a graphic of a floating controller in space you might be surprised on how good the body's spatial awareness is that you can pick up that controller without knowing exactly where your hands are or your feet are.
Yeah, in your own house, for sure. But on a secret mission to assassinate the king in his castle, in his private room, where you have never been to? Spacial awareness will help you know where your limbs are in relation to your body, but not in relation to the room.
@@anzaia2164 If you’re far enough in your career to go assassinating kings I assume you’d have had plenty of practice being invisible and figuring all of that out
I made a rogue in D&D who specialized in what he calls "plain-sighting." Rather than maxing his dexterity to hide in shadows, he maxed his charisma to hide in broad daylight. Essentially, he cultivated the ability to look like he just belonged, no matter where he was.
@@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932 it is funny how this thing actually does work tho. My example was me and my friend doing a visit to a friend whom was about to be part of fashion design as a model. So you get two guys that look kinda off, but they do wear something that looks like they are part of the crew there. It was redicolous as both of us just randomly did things we were told by the people, but. Attending a 50€/invitation only fashion show for free while sipping a James Bond Martini? Shaken. Not stirred. *queue bond theme*
It's called Kinesthetic Sense and it's one of the MANY more than 5 senses that we have. One of the easiest ways to demonstrate it is to close your eyes and touch your nose. You could do it, even though you didn't use any of your 5 traditional senses.
I wrote this response. without looking at the keybord. So I know where my fingers and the keys are with out looking. So you can do a lot with out seeing.
I actually possess a wardrobe full of 'Clothes of Invisibility'. Honestly, I do! Whenever I walk through a high street, I lose count of the amount of people that step out of shops, or parked vehicles and walk straight into me; or when walking up and down the aisles of a supermarket, people just walk into me, as if I was not there; or when I am queuing for a bus, people try to get on the bus in front of me, as if I'm not there; or when I am standing at the bar, waiting to be served, the bar staff do not see me, even when I'm waving a £20 note in their direction!
10:33 To be fair, humans do have a sort of inherent spaitial sense. We're good at knowing where we are related to ourselves, so its wouldn't be quite as bad as you say. Try closing your eyes and touching your nose with your finger a few times. It wont be 100% accurate, but pretty close Id bet. Though when dealing with other things, it would get a bit iffy, though not quite so bad.
It's called kinesthesia, and humans are above proficient at using the ability. To prove my point, try grabbing a cup of water that's behind you without looking at it. Odds are you'll be able to do it with little trouble.
I'd go so far as to even say that you should be 100% accurate in doing your test, unless you have some sort of physical ailment, you should be able to perfectly touch the tip of your nose with your fingers with your eyes closed nearly 100% of the time
A human’s body has Proprioreceptora that let you detect where certain body parts are in relation to other parts. That is partially what allows for depth perception besides your eyes accounting for the rest.
The cock ring of transparency... The only downside is the very perceptible vibration. Everyone starts arguing and telling each other to silence their phone.
@@somethingelse4424 That reminds me of an old comedy/music show by Martin Pearson about The Lord of the Rings. He mentions the fact that in the movie Arwen's fate is inexplicably tied to the rings, because everything created by a Ring of Power will fade when the One Ring is destroyed. "Now, it is POSSIBLE that Arwen was created with the ring... although where he was wearing it at the time boggles the mind! [pause] ...did it turn invisible?"
The best "Invisibility" spell I've read about was one that, rather than making the person or group invisible, instead made the people seeing them not care that they saw them. They still registered enough that people got out of their way, but they just didn't care who they were.
Technology can counter that one: You still show up on the security cameras. You need to plan your heist to deal with the guy monitoring the camera feeds. Slip a sedative into his coffee so he's snoozing when you head in and doesn't spot you on the cameras and alert the other guards.
The invisibility accordion. The more vigorously you play it, the more complete your invisibility. Maybe not so useful for crashing the ambassador's conference, but maybe helpful for walking through hostile countryside.
Simple invisibility detector for royal security: Beads on the inside of the doorways. Invisible dude comes through an open door? Beads move. Maybe even put some bells at the ends of them to jingle.
this is great except in a crowd. i suppose make people go in a few at a time? even then, maybe a person who is allowed to go in wants to sneak in a plus one, so they turn the other person invisible and the other person piggybacks the visitor or hides behind them so they go in.
"Just because we fought one invisible criminal... doesn't mean everybody's invisible." 'I understand that, but it does mean that some of them could be invisible... and I think they're all invisible in this room.' "I don't know where you get your ideas, T.J."
“I cast improved invisibility on myself and sneak across the road to the targets limousine, holding my rifle at low ready!” - Last words of Flashbang; Shadowrunning mage and traffic victim.
in order to see while invisible, why not have the eyes only absorb *nonvisible* light spectrums, (and changes the eyes and brain to be able to perceive infrared) while normal light passes through. the eyes would be visible to anything else that could see in infrared, but humans cant normally see in that spectrum so as far as other humans would be concerned, youd be completely invisible
@@nicholasbrosseau6035 This would work to detect the "anti-vampire" form of invisibility too. Goggles with two mirrors, (like a really miniaturized set of binoculars.) Tada! You can see normally, but also see anti-vampires.
Another problem with invisibility is does your eyelids work in shielding your eyes from light, if not well you wouldn´t be able to keep out the light, which is perhaps why alot of invisible people wear dark glasses. Its the only way to keep out bright lights since you can´t just shut your eyes. you would also have to get used to a new way of sleeping since closing your eyes doesn´t help either.
"invisibility is always given only to the hero" When enemies are given invisibility, it is often partial or imperfect invisibility, that can still be seen, such as elites in halo or vampires in oblivion.
Using video games isn't a good example because gameplay is a factor. It's not fun to fight enemies you can't see at ALL. But in other media, sure. The Predator being the clear modern example. Usually it's a narrative device where our scrappy hero can exploit a weakness. But there's times where it's flaunted. The Invisible Man has basically perfect invisiblity and is "bad". Arguably the One Ring from LotR too.
Deus Ex has you still marginally visible when using the glass cloak shield. I like that aspect. It’s like seeing something in a fish eye lens that moves around
his "distraction as invisibility" bit reminds me of the driving awareness ad where you are told to count blue cars or something (I forget it's a visual counting task) as you watch a crowded intersection. The punchline of the ad is, "Yup, there are seven blue cars. But did you see the dancing panda?" An instant replay of the scene shows that a giant dancing panda-suited guy does indeed saunter right across the screen. The moment you aren't looking for a visual task, there it is, rather highlighting the danger to cyclist and pedestrians of distracted drivers aren't looking for them.
Actually, the "I can't see my hands" wouldn't be such a problem because there's a thing called proprioception, your body (unless you got some sort of cerebellum lesion or something like that) always knows where your hands and legs are. Wich is even showed by the fact that when you have these lesions, you have trouble walking or touching your nose with your hand if your eyes are closed, wich you can easily do normally.
It is still a skill that require practice. I can grab something in front of me +/- 2 inches with my eyes shut. Trying to pickpocket someone while invisible would probably require quite a bit more accuracy. I suppose it's a moot point as experts in nearly ANY field are able to do their task without looking at what they are doing.
@@r3dp9 But Lindy was talking about how you'd have to learn how to walk or have to very carefully approach your face with your hand. He wasn't talking about picking pockets.
Yeah I just tried this, I'm quite capable of walking two or three paces and picking something up with my eyes closed. I don't think you need to be able to view your limbs to do most things.
@@r3dp9 To be honest it doesn't require any skill. I can type without looking, I can paint my nails and do most things without looking. Being invisible you could still see objects, just not yourself, so that would be even easier.
Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow, Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow. None has ever caught him yet, for Tom, he is the Master: His songs are stronger songs, and his feet are faster.
I feel like hypercamouflage is way more viable than complete invisibility. Maybe it can change your body depending on whatever is around you, like an octopus
@@jedidiahsojourner1917 Not relevant to OPs comment. You want to make a comment, not a reply, old timer. Also, get a grip, we're all suffering here you're not special.
My girlfriend: "He's probably thinking about other girls!" Me: "If I gained the power to become invisible, what about the skin mites and bacteria in my body?"
As to the distracted invisibility, some years back there were advertisement to road safety, that had group of people passing a ball and the viwer had to count the passes. Costumed man entered a scene, walked around and left and their presence was only revealed afterward by narrator. No magic needed :)
Lindy did smth like this in the past too. He showed moving circles in two colours and made us count how often 2 colours moved through each other. In the background he slowly put on a socket puppet xD
I remember they showed this video to us in middle school and I was the only kid in the class who thought the guy in a gorilla suit was a distraction from counting the number of ball passes
A couple thoughts after watching: 1, being invisible to yourself, assuming you could still see, wouldn't be as crippling as being unable to walk. We have something called a kinesthetic sense, which is just a sense telling us where our body is in relation to itself. So you would still easily avoid smacking your hand into your face and walk easily on flat ground, but you would still have a lot of trouble on rough terrain, climbing, on inclines, etc. You can try this for yourself by paying attention to when you need and don't need to look where you're walking or at your feet to not trip. 2, an idea I had for my tabletop campaign, to throw my hat into the ring is a sort of wolf-esque creature that could turn invisible by sustaining a specific noise it had evolved to produce using air sacs and extra vocal cords to continually breathe. That obviously gives their general position away, but still gives the creature a big advantage while it hunts, as it otherwise functions with perfect invisibility.
I reckon he could have dropped the level a bit. Lapel mikes can be overwhelmed by coughing and spike into distortion. It was at the level of a sound effect cough, not an ‘omg wtf was that’
There is really three different way to be "invisible" 1: out of scale 2: out of tempus 3: out of spectrum And if you think about it.. we kind of use all three already. A snipers bullet is out of tempus. That is. It moves so fast so you can´t see it. You can still see the effect the bullet have victim. Out of scale is also often use. Pretty much all electronics is out of scale. Can also be out of scale in a different way. Like being really far away. Out of spectrum is a bit rarer. But sort if glass is..at least if its in water. There is a Swedish APC that have coating that make it out of spectrum for IR. There was a WWI russian experimental aircraft that combined nr 1 and 3. That is.. The engine and pilot is still vissible. But.. really to small to see in the sky. But the wing and boddy was made of a transparant plastic. It worked really well.. for a week. THen the plastic went opak
Also you can reflect whatever is behind you. That is actually how light spectrum invisibility is obtained right now by existing devices. ua-cam.com/video/0pE1qRAKoqA/v-deo.html
Another out-of-spectrum variant: Stealth aircraft that don't reflect radar pulses back to the transmitter. Sure, they're still visible to the eye, but not to radar.
"starts as an ordinary farm boy and ends up killing the dragon or whatever it is" "Makes it feasible that this farm boy could do this amazing thing, he had the cambon of invisibility" Congratulations, you have officially summarized The Hobbit in two sentences.
This is why my favorite "invisibility" power is The Shadow's (from the radio play). He uses a form of telepathy / hypnosis in order to make sure he isn't perceived by the crooks he fight. He is invisible to everyone in the room he fights against, but someone hidden from him, someone who is a master of telepathy themselves, or maybe even a camera can see him
10:41 to be fair humans do have a kinesthetic sense which means you know what position your joints are in without looking at them, so it might not be quite so debilitating.
Regarding the bit about knowing where your own body is without being able to see it, I strongly believe this to be a non issue. There may certainly be some 'weirdness' or some adjustment period, but we have an innate sense of where all of our body is at any given moment. It's easy to test, shut your eyes and move about, move your fingers and such. You will find quickly that you have awareness of *exactly* where they are, at all times, in relation to your own body. The hardest part, then, would be in figuring out the distance to objects and mapping your movements to that object without being able to see yourself as a reference point. But this doesn't seem to be much of a problem either- take the action of catching something moving at high speed, the catch is often, a reflexive, or near reflexive action. You don't have time to look at where your hand is, and in fact it's very possible you will not see it at all if you're catching above you, but your eyes will be intensely tracking the movement of the object and providing all the information you need to position your body to intercept it accordingly. I think you got very close to this point when you mentioned walking, even on unfamiliar terrain we prefer to look ahead of us to map out where to step instead of to check our own legs to assure ourselves we're doing it right. As long as we have a relatively solid idea of where objects are we can generally interact with them no problem. It would of course be really weird at first, but I think something that would be negligible given time.
That whole "not being able to see yourself could lead you to fall over or not know where you hands are relative to your environment" bit... Have you ever walked in the dark? You have a pretty good knowledge of what if feels like when you hand and arm is at every position it can be.
My thoughts exactly, I dont think walking or basic movements would be super difficult, you have your feeling of sense. But sure those fine movements of pickpocking someone etc would become harder
@@freewheelinfranklin6201 that’s not necessarily because you’re not looking at your feet, but because you’re not looking at what’s on the bloody floor. And since you’re using a moving around in the dark to make your point, it’s because you can’t see, which doesn’t make sense if you’re talking about a person who is walking normally in the day with invisible limbs who can see fine.
I agree to some degree, whilst you can tell where your legs and arms are relive to your other body parts and earths gravity, making stumbling much less common. It would be difficult to grab things because you don't know where your arms are to the OBJECTS around you, making you swipe at random places only approximate to the location of your desired object.
Well, in a world without functional invisibility, it might seem like it is world breaking, but I put it to you that in a world without intercontinental ballistic missiles, those seem to be quite world breaking as well. Imagine putting the idea into a medieval king's head.
Everything is made of very tiny things called atoms. The type of the atom determines what it can do. Some atoms can explode, and when they explode, they make other atoms explode, and when a lot of them explode, they can destroy entire armies or cities all at once. Our greatest alchemists have weaponized this ability. They create massive rockets which they control through their special relics to hit anything in the world. Major drawback: the places you destroy in this manner are poisonous. Other drawback: everyone will hate you and some may direct their alchemists to attack you with their weapons on you, which is undesirable.
Nice video! Being able to produce and publish an hour-long monologue on the pros and cons of "invisibility" is surely one of the great gains of social media!
I saw i video once about a book named "The man who mistook his wife for a hat", it was about a man who was unable to recognise things for what they were. Might be an interesting addition to alternative invisibility magics. (The book is a collection of clinical stories written by a doctor.)
TL;DW Lindy talks about how invisibility might work in a balanced way for so long that the DM had to go home and our realistic no-magic wild west campaign got rescheduled for next week.
The human eye has a natural blind spot where the optic nerve attaches. Anything at that exact angle is technically invisible. So if the Invisible Man were merely able to cause the light from his image to always hit the blind spots of the observers, their brains would simply fill in the background.
*lindybeige voice* When the change is too slow to notice, are you really watching paint dry? I can look at someone for a while but that doesn't mean I'm watching them age!
I misread the thumbnail. I read: The problem of being. I thought this was going to be a more ontological rant and my boy Lindeybeige was gonna get super philosophical. I was only partly wrong. Yay.
One of my favourite invisibilities in literature is the one used by the witches in His Dark Materials who make themselves unnoticeable. I play a lot of Runequest but I have somehow never used invisibility anywhere.
Adding to the discussion on the "Science" explanation of invisibility, people often mention that in modern society you would also have to be invisible to infrared and UV or they would be visible on cameras. This leads to additional tailoring of invisibility, like nuclear reactor operators being invisible to gamma rays, and thus aren't harmed by them, or applying invisibility to a well insulated wall to produce a window that doesn't make the house cold.
I like the common video game method of balancing it where there is a slight visible shimmer when an invisible person moves and is usually very limited in its usage time eg: titanfall
This is why I like the One Rings version of invisibility. It's not technically invisibility but it works the same way. The only thing you have to deal with however is a giant eye shouting "I see you". Well yeah you see me, you're a giant eye! Then he giggles to himself.
Well, also the constant threat of becoming enslaved to the Dark Lord's will, and the risk that if you become invisible too long or too mich, you become invisible forever.
You know. Mr Lloyd feels like a distant English Uncle to me at this point. The amount I've learned and the length he's been around plus the fact I'm just a teen.
Same, he speaks loudly my shower thoughts. It's weird. Other people say I overthink things and he makes living out of it. He is great, I love his videos.
A simple solution to the issue with the king worrying about assassins could be a see through mesh that’s placed over entry way that Isn’t already covered with a door. Or perhaps the floor is covered in a fine dust that makes peoples foot prints very clear. If magic is readily available there could be counter spells to invisibility that allow a magically inclined guard to ensure there aren’t any invisible intruders. Maybe it’s possible to just flat out place a rune or some other object somewhere that straight up dispels any and all magic but comes with it’s own problems because now even if you find the intruder you don’t have magic of your own to deal with them.
I love the SEP filter in Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. You aren’t invisible, you are just irrelevant. More like a psychic weapon than a optical one
It would be developed by the science of disinterest Experts in being uninteresting and ignored. The uniform is beige. If you think is your calling, I’m sure they are recruiting (they keep losing interest in their staff)
I've read a book series in where the main character could cast a spell that did this. It basically made him inconsequential and as long he didn't do anything to really draw attention to himself, people would see him but not pay any attention to him and forget that he was ever there.
You can do this in real life with a clipboard and dark blue workshirt and hat. Maybe swap the clipboard with a toolbox due to situation. Go where you want.
@@Riceball01 expanding on Guy Pierson, a plot point could be that the main character tries to use the spell but doesn’t realize it failed. However, since they believed the spell worked, they were very confident and that confidence made no one question their actions. Alternately, it could be revealed the spell is a hoax and people just don’t pay attention to you if you don’t act like they are paying attention to you. Either the “felix felicis” placebo or existential loneliness route can definitely play with this concept.
I’ve literally been avoiding this video since it was released. I just knew it was going to be so good and in-line with my own thoughts that I didn’t want to confirm my insanity.
First time watching one of your videos, I'm impressed! Been a long watcher of Skall and Shad, just never took the time to gander your channel. You're witty, and quite funny. I laughed out loud several times this video, and that's rare now a days for me. Thank you for your excellent work.
@@sumdumbmick It doesn't matter how comfortable you are with your body if you suddenly become visible, fully nude, in a situation where everyone else will be upset.
@@johnladuke6475 why should anyone be upset? and if they are why the fuck should you care? it takes a truly pathetic person to see a naked body and become upset at it. everyone has a body. it's not a fucking secret.
@@sumdumbmick Missing the premise a bit, aren't you? The point of the invisibility is to go unnoticed. Most places, planetwide, have a general expectation that you'll be wearing *some* amount of clothing. How you feel about the morality of it really doesn't alter the situation. If we suppose that you're invisible trying to be a spy and eavesdrop royal secrets in the throne room - where all the guards, royals, courtiers, and everyone else are clothed as per their custom - and your invisibility wears off leaving you naked, you will be spotted. It will not matter how you feel about clothes when they yell "SEIZE THE SPY!!!" and the guards will not care that it's perfectly natural when they're told to behead the naked spy. THAT is why it's nerve-wracking. Because unless you're in a nudist colony, "wearing off" would flip you from unnoticeable to the center of attention in an instant. If you don't know it's coming, that's a big problem.
"An SEP is something we can't see, or don't see, or our brain doesn't let us see, because we think that it's somebody else's problem. That’s what SEP means. Somebody Else’s Problem. The brain just edits it out, it's like a blind spot."
29:11 - "it could be career ending for an actor" or otherwise it could be a way to make a career as a stage actor. The ability to do or say things without being seen would be invaluable in a theater, I guess.
@@jacobosborne6996, I'm optimistic. Especially since the artist, Christopher Steininger gave us an encouraging update three months ago. (ua-cam.com/video/tXwy_-foebU/v-deo.html )
I can imagine kings in worlds with invisibility would hire guards with very keen eyesight to spot the small disturbances, also it would be an explanation for all the torch lined walls, the smoke would give an invisible intruder away
Or an interesting sandy floor thats replaced then cleaned, if their really paranoid, and flowing fabrics all over the place, the wind of someone passing by moving the fabric
I actually never thought about the blind part, and about that gas part you would most likely be dead upon turning into gas and would spread everywhere and most likely through the ventilation system then outside… you’ll never be whole again.
maybe thats why we see those kung fu schools standing in a grid in a room punching and kicking the air. They are making sure there are no invisible enemies around.
@@arx3516 I don't think you need super powers to do that, just sharp enough senses and the presence of mind to pay attention to *everything* . Sneaking up on blind people for example is extraordinarily hard, because they get so good at hearing people's footsteps and breaths that they don't always need to see you to know that not only is someone there, but that it is *you* . That said, training for this would be pointless comparatively to just using technology to shut down the reliance on our own eyes to locate enemies.
41:50 "Oh, there's a guy here, just get out of the way.." Did you realize you were describing the perception experiment where the subject is supposed to count how many times the players in the white shirts pass the basketball, and, focused on that, they completely miss the guy in the gorilla suit that walks through the scene?
@@markwilliams8369 He'd also end up killing anyone he regularly viewed... X-rays being a bit unkind to human flesh an' all. Either that - or transmogrify them gradually into Incredible Hulks? (Which latter will make little sense if you ain't familiar with Marvel universe flicks/comics)
A while back, I watched a performance of A Midsummer Night's Dream at Shakespeare's Globe. At one point, Oberon said, "I am invisible." And, do you know what? None of the other characters could see him at all. Well, except Puck, but he may have been cheating.
There is also the kind of invisibility, Tom Scott talked about in a talk a few years ago: In a world, where everyone has chips implanted in their head, you could edit other people and things out of their perception. He talks about it as "blocking in real life", so as a deliberate decision by the implanted person, but the chips could be hacked or (as he even mentions) mandated by the government to block out certain things.
Absolutely true. But there's an even simpler test that Lloyd could do: shut his eyes and then touch his index finger to the tip of his nose then to the lobe of his left ear.
@@keithrhodes7386 Hahaha I literally did that when he started that line of argument. Was like 'well that's not nearly as difficult as he's made it out to be!'
@@natesmith8523 you can still see the environment around you just fine, unlike a blind person. the point was that not being able to see your limbs doesn’t mean you don’t know where they are
We had a great encounter with invisibility in DnD. My friend found a magical ring - so obiously he had to try it. "Wow! I am invisible". Than there was a minute of childish "now you can see! now you can't!" Once he put his ring on for the fourth time, we were told by GM that we can still see him. All 3 magical charges were depleted. I will never forget seeing that face and laughter after that :D
What about an invisibility potion that gives the user uncontrollable and chronic gas? That way the people around them may not be able to see them, but they'll be able to hear and smell them.
The moment you mentioned The Invisible Man I decided I didn't want to be spoilered, so I paused the video and finally got myself a copy I just started reading. Thanks for the motivation Lindybeige - looking forward to finishing the video in a few days!
A really cool technological invisibility concept is the camelioflage-suit. Basically a full body suit with adaptive sceens plastered all over it and cameras to adjust the images on the screens to look like whatever an observer would see if you weren’t there. The only problem comes ehen you have more than one observer, since the suit can‘t show two separate images at once.
Conceived in 1977 by Phillip K. Dick in his "A Scanner Darkly"; a Sci-fi take on drug addiction based on personal experience. (Recently made into a movie with Keanau Reeves, Robert Downey Jr., Woody someone and this shoplifting chick.)
I like the Ghost in a Shell terrorist invisibility, with everyone having digitally modified eyeballs, he would hack their eyes to see that nobody is there, works from all perspectives and leaves only the trace that your eyes have been hacked.
Ghost in the Shell has all kinds of interesting countermeasures against invisibility, or thermoptic camouflage as it's called in that universe. They have special security cameras and cybernetic eyes that can still see invisible things. And in case there is some kind of super invisibility that even the cameras can't see, sensitive places have stuff like pressure pad floors that detect intruders. Also ofcourse the single greatest enemy of the invisible man trying to be covert and infiltrate somewhere... a closed door.
According to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy invisibility is so hard to do that it's easier to just to not be there instead.
Or make a SEP field generator.
Somebody else's problem. I see nothing out of the ordinary here
... and when he mentioned “... if they can’t see you then you can’t see them...” ... yes, Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal. Surely this episode is trying to trigger HHGTTG fans?
@@johnthomas7517 "My fantastic stories do not pretend to deal with possible things. They aim indeed only at the same amount of conviction as one gets in a gripping good dream." : H. G. WELLS
Lmao
I am in awe of anyone who can stand up and talk for 52 minutes nonstop (at high speed), no notes, not repeat themselves, and have something interesting to say.
He has noted
I have the power of invisibility:
I walk into a room, and nobody looks at me or pays me any attention,
it's like I'm not even there.
He does have notes, but he's also a professor that teaches lessons.
@@Aithalothes what does he teach? You usually pick up this kind of thing after a few years, but I know hardly anything about the guy despite his regularly going off on tangents.
tbh i only clicked because I saw it was 52 minutes and couldn't believe this was possible...
if tf2 has taught me anything, invisibility can be easily nullified by fire.
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@@OMalleyTheMaggotlaughs in dead ringer
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Laughs in m1m2
The reason why you wouldn’t want sandals of invisibility:
*flip flop flip flop flip flop flip flop*
Real sandals don't flop 😂
@Green Gobby Sandals, at least in Australia, have heel straps that prevent them from flopping about. Might be differing definitions by country.
you mean flip flops, those aren'T sandals
@Green Gobby flip flops - as opposed to real sandals with proper straps - are not shoes but a disaster and an accident waiting to happen! :-D
No matter, one could easily counter that unfortunate effect with the lantern of silence.
Elaborate dressing gown and beanie cap ... but he still couldn't give up the Beige Shirt. That's our Lindy.
@@briandeweyforbes . . . and what appears to be a smoking jacket.
That'd be like wearing socks without sandals. What would be the point
@@briandeweyforbes A Fez would be cooler
We can't give you Lindy without the Beige. Beige is compulsory. It's all beige, you see.
To paraphrase Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead.
Also the same cableknit jumper. I love that grey jumper.
I feel like the best “invisibility” is something akin to a perception filter from Doctor Who. You aren’t really invisible (so you won’t get the side effects like needing to be naked, not being able to see because your retinas are transparent, etc) but everyone will overlook you. You’re functionally invisible, not actually invisible.
A similar invisibility is in Kagerou Project. Kido has invisibility in being overlooked. Only broken if she or others she is actively making invisible bumps into someone, aka making it impossible to overlook them for a moment.
also same for warhammer 40k culexus assassins; they aren't invisible, your brain just refuses to register that they are here
I think the Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy and Percy Jackson also uses this
@@svantlas6034 I wouldn’t consider the Mist a perception filter, it’s more like a straight up magic hallucinogen. The perception filter forces you to ignore things, but the Mist just makes people see things differently. Like Riptide showing up as a baseball bat and also a lacrosse stick at one point. A perception filter would just force people not to look at Riptide at all, while the Mist changes it’s appearance with illusion magic.
I think same concept applies to Noragami as well
This video is literally me standing in the shower for an hour arguing with myself about random shit.
This is me in the task of creating a character for p&p shite
Lol
juul cat
Start making yt videos. Name it shower thoughts. Just put camera under shower and film yourself showering and talking about whatever
@@drjayteamk4531 That is why lindybeige is great. When we think to ourselves it's scattered and messy, rather hard to present, if you just said what you're thinking it might even block your thinking. Lindybeige is that daydream we've all had, presented perfectly and consistently.
Another problem with sandals of invisibility is that they'd be an enormous bother to unfasten.
At least they're not flip flops
You can still FEEL the straps to undo them...
@@PerfectAlibi1 Unless they have become knotted. It is hard enough when normal laces do that.
Also cold in most climates
Blind people just feel it out, why couldn't you? 🤔
Alternate title: “Fully Visible Man Has an Existential Crisis Regarding Human Invisibility”
That hurt!
I snorted laughing hard enough to hurt myself.
Damn and - definitely - blast.
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Word
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It is exactly this phenomenon that makes this the "most British" Lindybeige episode ever. In-depth analysis of a non-problem, combined with an emotional state that approaches a sense of near-terror while contemplating the non-consequences ... performed staggering about in a nightgown (how very Arthur Dent!)
Conspiracy theory: Lloyd has actually invented invisibility (explaining the month long gap in video production) and is now making this video to warn us about its side effects and how he handles this new menace to himself and British society!
He also coughs a lot...
oh my god, Lindy, don't leave us
Take that Nappy! Invisibilitea time.
Next video - an apparently unoccupied beige shirt gesticulates from the back of a tank...
Or he's downplaying it's power so we don't get after him.
That would explain where all my tea bags have been going. Damn you Lloyd!
“Superpower or curse?” Literally always answered by the response question, “can you turn it off if you want?”
havent watched the video but not ALWAYS. like imagine you had the power to get whatever you wanted in life? even if you didn’t use it it’d be constant temptation, and as soon as you did life would lose any value it had before
Yea
@@hobbedgoblin10 nah you could find meaning by doing stuff for people other than yourself
Ikr
@@hobbedgoblin10 it would gain a lot of value actually, you would have the omnipotent power to lead humanity to an ideal civilization, and get rid of evil, disease, death etc.
If you've ever played in virtual reality and you had a controller on a desk across the room where you can't see your feet and you can't see your hands but you can just see a graphic of a floating controller in space you might be surprised on how good the body's spatial awareness is that you can pick up that controller without knowing exactly where your hands are or your feet are.
Yeah, with closed eyes you can still use things when you know where they are.
Yeah, in your own house, for sure. But on a secret mission to assassinate the king in his castle, in his private room, where you have never been to? Spacial awareness will help you know where your limbs are in relation to your body, but not in relation to the room.
@@anzaia2164 Just takes a little IMAGINATION!
@@anzaia2164 If you’re far enough in your career to go assassinating kings I assume you’d have had plenty of practice being invisible and figuring all of that out
Good ol' kinesthetic sense!
I made a rogue in D&D who specialized in what he calls "plain-sighting." Rather than maxing his dexterity to hide in shadows, he maxed his charisma to hide in broad daylight. Essentially, he cultivated the ability to look like he just belonged, no matter where he was.
So like a Grey man agent?
A lab coat, a clip board, and a look on your face that you're busy and have shit to get done can probably get you into a *lot* of places.
A con man and disguise artist basically? Complete Thief anticipated that.
I feel like that's just high quality espionage. Spies have been doing that throughout history.
@@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932 it is funny how this thing actually does work tho.
My example was me and my friend doing a visit to a friend whom was about to be part of fashion design as a model.
So you get two guys that look kinda off, but they do wear something that looks like they are part of the crew there.
It was redicolous as both of us just randomly did things we were told by the people, but.
Attending a 50€/invitation only fashion show for free while sipping a James Bond Martini?
Shaken. Not stirred.
*queue bond theme*
I've never had a problem detecting where my limbs are in the dark. The problem is not being able to see other things.
It's called Kinesthetic Sense and it's one of the MANY more than 5 senses that we have. One of the easiest ways to demonstrate it is to close your eyes and touch your nose. You could do it, even though you didn't use any of your 5 traditional senses.
Proprioception!
Ha ha so true..
I wrote this response. without looking at the keybord. So I know where my fingers and the keys are with out looking. So you can do a lot with out seeing.
Also, blind people exist.
"Yeah this potion will make you invisible, but it WILL kill you."
I love it, implementing it
That would actually be a good poison, makes hiding the body much easier.
invisible poison bone shard knife.
invisible knife
I'll do you one better. it's a poison that disintegrates you but has been mislabeled as experimental invisibility potion
@@Slender_Man_186 you just *disappear*
You can become invisible by tossing sand in people's eyes.
pocket sand
@@demonic6802 I was about to type this xD
Pocket sand!
Sha Sha Sha
The one eyed man is quite literally invisible in a world of the blind.
And you can become visible by having sand tossed in your own eyes
Here is how to be invisible: Simply wear a gorilla suit and have some people toss a ball around and no one will ever see you!
Shit you right
I get that reference.
Wasnt that a moonwalking bear the last time I saw this?
Just be less than 6 feet tall. Women won't be able to see you!
@@taekwondotime who hurt you?
It’s surprisingly entertaining to watch this guy dressed like a wizard talk about invisibility for nearly an hour
Awesome actually.
He reminds me of King Harald Finehair from Vikings tv show
I actually possess a wardrobe full of 'Clothes of Invisibility'. Honestly, I do! Whenever I walk through a high street, I lose count of the amount of people that step out of shops, or parked vehicles and walk straight into me; or when walking up and down the aisles of a supermarket, people just walk into me, as if I was not there; or when I am queuing for a bus, people try to get on the bus in front of me, as if I'm not there; or when I am standing at the bar, waiting to be served, the bar staff do not see me, even when I'm waving a £20 note in their direction!
Wait, what am i replying to? Theres no comment here
Liking this comment because this person manages to send a non existent comment
@@owenrichards4777 What person?
I never saw UA-cam have glitches of this kind before, there's a random comment chain of replies to nothing.
*brushes past nonexistent comment*
This is a great video.
I do happen to know a guy who does even better videos. Just cant remember the name.
@@jamivirtanen474 whoever it is , isn't lindy
What's up cody, just left your channel lmao
invisibility is beige
Hey Cody reupload your How to make TNT and How to make Black Powder videos.
10:33 To be fair, humans do have a sort of inherent spaitial sense. We're good at knowing where we are related to ourselves, so its wouldn't be quite as bad as you say. Try closing your eyes and touching your nose with your finger a few times. It wont be 100% accurate, but pretty close Id bet. Though when dealing with other things, it would get a bit iffy, though not quite so bad.
It's called kinesthesia, and humans are above proficient at using the ability. To prove my point, try grabbing a cup of water that's behind you without looking at it. Odds are you'll be able to do it with little trouble.
@@TheRealityWarper08 or to be even more similar to being invisible, look at something on the table, close your eyes, and grab it. It's quite easy.
@@TheRealityWarper08 It's called proprioception, the ability to know where different parts of your body are in relation to yourself.
I'd go so far as to even say that you should be 100% accurate in doing your test, unless you have some sort of physical ailment, you should be able to perfectly touch the tip of your nose with your fingers with your eyes closed nearly 100% of the time
A human’s body has Proprioreceptora that let you detect where certain body parts are in relation to other parts. That is partially what allows for depth perception besides your eyes accounting for the rest.
"Quickly Johnny put on the g-string of invisibility!"
"Couldn't we have made it a ring?"
The Prince Albert ring of invisibility
The cock ring of transparency... The only downside is the very perceptible vibration. Everyone starts arguing and telling each other to silence their phone.
@@somethingelse4424 That reminds me of an old comedy/music show by Martin Pearson about The Lord of the Rings. He mentions the fact that in the movie Arwen's fate is inexplicably tied to the rings, because everything created by a Ring of Power will fade when the One Ring is destroyed. "Now, it is POSSIBLE that Arwen was created with the ring... although where he was wearing it at the time boggles the mind! [pause] ...did it turn invisible?"
thong of invisibility
Johnny: "How many other people have worn this?"
The Inconceivable man is much harder to fight than the invisible man, nobody can even think of challenging him
“I wish I were invisible.”
Genie: Blinds the entire world.
Monkey paw
This is why if you make a wish... You should write it like an entre essay
“I wish I were invisible.”
Genie: Kills you causing everyone to ignore you.
This would be a good SCP story.
@@darthyvardyreal already is actually. But instead of the geni it's the devil
The best "Invisibility" spell I've read about was one that, rather than making the person or group invisible, instead made the people seeing them not care that they saw them. They still registered enough that people got out of their way, but they just didn't care who they were.
Technology can counter that one: You still show up on the security cameras. You need to plan your heist to deal with the guy monitoring the camera feeds. Slip a sedative into his coffee so he's snoozing when you head in and doesn't spot you on the cameras and alert the other guards.
I have this spell
"Somebody else's problem field" how the TARDIS stays invisible.
That is also used by Douglas Adams , the "Somebody else's problem field", or SEP field.
That's a Vampire: The Masquerade bloodline power!
The invisibility accordion. The more vigorously you play it, the more complete your invisibility. Maybe not so useful for crashing the ambassador's conference, but maybe helpful for walking through hostile countryside.
So that's where the background music comes from in video games
@@flockofcrows7829 boss music is just musicians trying to be as invisible as possible to the boss.
Simple invisibility detector for royal security:
Beads on the inside of the doorways. Invisible dude comes through an open door? Beads move. Maybe even put some bells at the ends of them to jingle.
So that's why hippies hang beads!
this is great except in a crowd. i suppose make people go in a few at a time? even then, maybe a person who is allowed to go in wants to sneak in a plus one, so they turn the other person invisible and the other person piggybacks the visitor or hides behind them so they go in.
"How do you know the Invisible Man is here?"
"Because I can't see him!"
Hahaha!!!!!
"I can see the food in his stomach"
Have any of us ever seen the invisible man and lindybeige in the same room before??????? Mmmmmmm
Makes you think doesnt it :/
"Just because we fought one invisible criminal... doesn't mean everybody's invisible."
'I understand that, but it does mean that some of them could be invisible... and I think they're all invisible in this room.'
"I don't know where you get your ideas, T.J."
The fermi paradox explained, finally. The aliens are all invisible and those who show themselves are instantly killed by invisible assassins.
“I cast improved invisibility on myself and sneak across the road to the targets limousine, holding my rifle at low ready!”
- Last words of Flashbang; Shadowrunning mage and traffic victim.
17:30
Wouldn't this scenario be hilarious if every important meeting room had a fire extinguisher labelled "invisible bitch detector," or something.
I mean alternatively people just fill rooms with mist and hold meetings like that
@@jonahweiss2124
Put a fog maker on the floor to see if the air is disturbed.
Or a heat detector ?
@@krisn4006
Thermal sensors would work pretty well, but they're stupid expensive.
@@fudgerounds91 I mean you can get an FLIR camera for your phone for $200, still kinda expensive but not inconceivable
in order to see while invisible, why not have the eyes only absorb *nonvisible* light spectrums, (and changes the eyes and brain to be able to perceive infrared) while normal light passes through. the eyes would be visible to anything else that could see in infrared, but humans cant normally see in that spectrum so as far as other humans would be concerned, youd be completely invisible
Specialty sciency contact lenses? Sounds cool.
@@nicholasbrosseau6035 This would work to detect the "anti-vampire" form of invisibility too. Goggles with two mirrors, (like a really miniaturized set of binoculars.) Tada! You can see normally, but also see anti-vampires.
A big issue is that the resolution takes a significant hit, or you will habe to life with grey scale
Another problem with invisibility is does your eyelids work in shielding your eyes from light, if not well you wouldn´t be able to keep out the light, which is perhaps why alot of invisible people wear dark glasses.
Its the only way to keep out bright lights since you can´t just shut your eyes.
you would also have to get used to a new way of sleeping since closing your eyes doesn´t help either.
Yeah but then whoever you're sneaking up on can just wear NVGs and they'd be able to see you
"invisibility is always given only to the hero"
When enemies are given invisibility, it is often partial or imperfect invisibility, that can still be seen, such as elites in halo or vampires in oblivion.
Using video games isn't a good example because gameplay is a factor. It's not fun to fight enemies you can't see at ALL. But in other media, sure. The Predator being the clear modern example. Usually it's a narrative device where our scrappy hero can exploit a weakness. But there's times where it's flaunted. The Invisible Man has basically perfect invisiblity and is "bad". Arguably the One Ring from LotR too.
@@Unobliging But the invisibility in Lotr isn't perfect. The one wearing the ring can still be seen by Sauron and the Ringwraiths.
@@AndreasWinkler83 Not just seen. For them wearing The Ring is like wearing a clown suit in a funeral.
Laughs in Skyrim Requiem’s Invisible Entities
Deus Ex has you still marginally visible when using the glass cloak shield. I like that aspect. It’s like seeing something in a fish eye lens that moves around
his "distraction as invisibility" bit reminds me of the driving awareness ad where you are told to count blue cars or something (I forget it's a visual counting task) as you watch a crowded intersection. The punchline of the ad is, "Yup, there are seven blue cars. But did you see the dancing panda?" An instant replay of the scene shows that a giant dancing panda-suited guy does indeed saunter right across the screen. The moment you aren't looking for a visual task, there it is, rather highlighting the danger to cyclist and pedestrians of distracted drivers aren't looking for them.
Here.
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Actually, the "I can't see my hands" wouldn't be such a problem because there's a thing called proprioception, your body (unless you got some sort of cerebellum lesion or something like that) always knows where your hands and legs are. Wich is even showed by the fact that when you have these lesions, you have trouble walking or touching your nose with your hand if your eyes are closed, wich you can easily do normally.
It is still a skill that require practice. I can grab something in front of me +/- 2 inches with my eyes shut. Trying to pickpocket someone while invisible would probably require quite a bit more accuracy. I suppose it's a moot point as experts in nearly ANY field are able to do their task without looking at what they are doing.
@@r3dp9 quite so - any taxi driver is a good example of this skill.
@@r3dp9 But Lindy was talking about how you'd have to learn how to walk or have to very carefully approach your face with your hand. He wasn't talking about picking pockets.
Yeah I just tried this, I'm quite capable of walking two or three paces and picking something up with my eyes closed. I don't think you need to be able to view your limbs to do most things.
@@r3dp9 To be honest it doesn't require any skill. I can type without looking, I can paint my nails and do most things without looking. Being invisible you could still see objects, just not yourself, so that would be even easier.
That was the most accurate portrayal of Tom Bombadil of all time
Absolutely mint, thank you.
Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow,
Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow.
None has ever caught him yet, for Tom, he is the Master: His songs are stronger songs, and his feet are faster.
Tom Bombadil is a fecker!
Dont bully the self insert pls
I feel like hypercamouflage is way more viable than complete invisibility. Maybe it can change your body depending on whatever is around you, like an octopus
The real trouble with invisibility: no one knows about the dope threads you wear
Jeans and a hoodie?
Obviously you think your clothes would be invisible.....dumb twot!
the spy main's curse
@Natasha Hasn't stopped growing the military from paying money to make their tanks disappear.
Today I learned that if Lindybeige closes his eyes he is unable to gently touch his nose without smacking his face
I'm an old white man. Twice divorced, about broke, and under house arrest due to the "virus". How invisible would you like me to be?
@@jedidiahsojourner1917 hi Jedidiah, how are you?
@@JawsofFreedom HAH
@@jedidiahsojourner1917 tf
@@jedidiahsojourner1917 Not relevant to OPs comment. You want to make a comment, not a reply, old timer.
Also, get a grip, we're all suffering here you're not special.
My girlfriend: "He's probably thinking about other girls!"
Me: "If I gained the power to become invisible, what about the skin mites and bacteria in my body?"
Bacteria are already practically invisible xD
Watch Ronald the Barbarian on UA-cam about invisibility.
As to the distracted invisibility, some years back there were advertisement to road safety, that had group of people passing a ball and the viwer had to count the passes. Costumed man entered a scene, walked around and left and their presence was only revealed afterward by narrator. No magic needed :)
Lindy did smth like this in the past too. He showed moving circles in two colours and made us count how often 2 colours moved through each other. In the background he slowly put on a socket puppet xD
I remember they showed this video to us in middle school and I was the only kid in the class who thought the guy in a gorilla suit was a distraction from counting the number of ball passes
The invisible gorilla experiment
Yes, but thats not really invisible
But did you notice the moondancing bear?
Lindy drinking game: Everytime he says 'anyway' after a tanget, take a shot.
Don't, you'll die!
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Oh no 😱 not on 50+min vid 😁
@@apalsnerg 10/10 preformence.
A couple thoughts after watching: 1, being invisible to yourself, assuming you could still see, wouldn't be as crippling as being unable to walk. We have something called a kinesthetic sense, which is just a sense telling us where our body is in relation to itself. So you would still easily avoid smacking your hand into your face and walk easily on flat ground, but you would still have a lot of trouble on rough terrain, climbing, on inclines, etc. You can try this for yourself by paying attention to when you need and don't need to look where you're walking or at your feet to not trip. 2, an idea I had for my tabletop campaign, to throw my hat into the ring is a sort of wolf-esque creature that could turn invisible by sustaining a specific noise it had evolved to produce using air sacs and extra vocal cords to continually breathe. That obviously gives their general position away, but still gives the creature a big advantage while it hunts, as it otherwise functions with perfect invisibility.
oh cool
Lindebeige: edits in pictures and comments.
Also Lindebeige: edits in comments about his coughing rather than editing out the coughing.
I reckon he could have dropped the level a bit.
Lapel mikes can be overwhelmed by coughing and spike into distortion.
It was at the level of a sound effect cough, not an ‘omg wtf was that’
There is really three different way to be "invisible"
1: out of scale
2: out of tempus
3: out of spectrum
And if you think about it.. we kind of use all three already. A snipers bullet is out of tempus. That is. It moves so fast so you can´t see it. You can still see the effect the bullet have victim.
Out of scale is also often use. Pretty much all electronics is out of scale. Can also be out of scale in a different way. Like being really far away.
Out of spectrum is a bit rarer. But sort if glass is..at least if its in water. There is a Swedish APC that have coating that make it out of spectrum for IR.
There was a WWI russian experimental aircraft that combined nr 1 and 3. That is.. The engine and pilot is still vissible. But.. really to small to see in the sky. But the wing and boddy was made of a transparant plastic. It worked really well.. for a week. THen the plastic went opak
Diamonds in water appear to disappear
Also you can reflect whatever is behind you. That is actually how light spectrum invisibility is obtained right now by existing devices. ua-cam.com/video/0pE1qRAKoqA/v-deo.html
@@giovannisantostasi9615 that is sort of a subcategory of out of spectrum
That was a cool comment, Mat.
Another out-of-spectrum variant: Stealth aircraft that don't reflect radar pulses back to the transmitter. Sure, they're still visible to the eye, but not to radar.
"starts as an ordinary farm boy and ends up killing the dragon or whatever it is"
"Makes it feasible that this farm boy could do this amazing thing, he had the cambon of invisibility"
Congratulations, you have officially summarized The Hobbit in two sentences.
You would always know where Lloyd was. He never stops talking.
i love how his videos havnt changed since 2009
they've gotten longer.
@@sussurus a lot longer
And why would anyone want them to change
@@sussurus longer... and grayer.
Background changed
This is why my favorite "invisibility" power is The Shadow's (from the radio play). He uses a form of telepathy / hypnosis in order to make sure he isn't perceived by the crooks he fight. He is invisible to everyone in the room he fights against, but someone hidden from him, someone who is a master of telepathy themselves, or maybe even a camera can see him
An invisible actor could have a pretty decent career in voice acting, or in special effects (e.g. faking psychokinesis).
My favorite part of What We do in the Shadows is when the new guy shows the other vampires how to have fun with a mirror.
The downside, people will tend to credit the visible person or character, not the invisible person making it work.
I'd just plunder and steal if I were invisible
@@VivioSaf that's an invisible person
10:41 to be fair humans do have a kinesthetic sense which means you know what position your joints are in without looking at them, so it might not be quite so debilitating.
Regarding the bit about knowing where your own body is without being able to see it, I strongly believe this to be a non issue. There may certainly be some 'weirdness' or some adjustment period, but we have an innate sense of where all of our body is at any given moment. It's easy to test, shut your eyes and move about, move your fingers and such. You will find quickly that you have awareness of *exactly* where they are, at all times, in relation to your own body. The hardest part, then, would be in figuring out the distance to objects and mapping your movements to that object without being able to see yourself as a reference point. But this doesn't seem to be much of a problem either- take the action of catching something moving at high speed, the catch is often, a reflexive, or near reflexive action. You don't have time to look at where your hand is, and in fact it's very possible you will not see it at all if you're catching above you, but your eyes will be intensely tracking the movement of the object and providing all the information you need to position your body to intercept it accordingly. I think you got very close to this point when you mentioned walking, even on unfamiliar terrain we prefer to look ahead of us to map out where to step instead of to check our own legs to assure ourselves we're doing it right. As long as we have a relatively solid idea of where objects are we can generally interact with them no problem. It would of course be really weird at first, but I think something that would be negligible given time.
Stevie Wonder is pretty good at playing piano despite not being able to see the keys.
That whole "not being able to see yourself could lead you to fall over or not know where you hands are relative to your environment" bit... Have you ever walked in the dark? You have a pretty good knowledge of what if feels like when you hand and arm is at every position it can be.
My thoughts exactly, I dont think walking or basic movements would be super difficult, you have your feeling of sense. But sure those fine movements of pickpocking someone etc would become harder
Have you never stubbed your toe on the bed base or tripped on a shoe or rug or even stood on a lego when moving around in the dark?
@@freewheelinfranklin6201 that’s not necessarily because you’re not looking at your feet, but because you’re not looking at what’s on the bloody floor. And since you’re using a moving around in the dark to make your point, it’s because you can’t see, which doesn’t make sense if you’re talking about a person who is walking normally in the day with invisible limbs who can see fine.
I agree, it's proprioception. Look it up.
I agree to some degree, whilst you can tell where your legs and arms are relive to your other body parts and earths gravity, making stumbling much less common. It would be difficult to grab things because you don't know where your arms are to the OBJECTS around you, making you swipe at random places only approximate to the location of your desired object.
Well, in a world without functional invisibility, it might seem like it is world breaking, but I put it to you that in a world without intercontinental ballistic missiles, those seem to be quite world breaking as well. Imagine putting the idea into a medieval king's head.
I mean its kind of like an enormous arrow that explodes, I think Gengis Khan had something like that
Everything is made of very tiny things called atoms. The type of the atom determines what it can do. Some atoms can explode, and when they explode, they make other atoms explode, and when a lot of them explode, they can destroy entire armies or cities all at once. Our greatest alchemists have weaponized this ability. They create massive rockets which they control through their special relics to hit anything in the world. Major drawback: the places you destroy in this manner are poisonous. Other drawback: everyone will hate you and some may direct their alchemists to attack you with their weapons on you, which is undesirable.
London is perpetually foggy. However in Victorian times it was more foggy cause of coal heating in all the houses.
I mock your value system. You also appear foolish in the eyes of others.
A fair point
Nice video! Being able to produce and publish an hour-long monologue on the pros and cons of "invisibility" is surely one of the great gains of social media!
I saw i video once about a book named "The man who mistook his wife for a hat", it was about a man who was unable to recognise things for what they were. Might be an interesting addition to alternative invisibility magics. (The book is a collection of clinical stories written by a doctor.)
Invisibility is just an aoe visual agnosia debuff.
@@imranmeco3393 Ah so that's the word. Truly a very trippy phenomenon. I can hardly imagine what it must be like!
that's interesting; I saw a commentary on a documentary about the movie of the book
@@alexeisavrasov888 fascinating. I listened to a podcast concerning the commentary on the documentary about the book
It’s a very interesting book. I recommend it.
TL;DW Lindy talks about how invisibility might work in a balanced way for so long that the DM had to go home and our realistic no-magic wild west campaign got rescheduled for next week.
I haven't even started yet and I have a huge smile on my face. I love this exact format of your videos. Thank you.
The human eye has a natural blind spot where the optic nerve attaches. Anything at that exact angle is technically invisible. So if the Invisible Man were merely able to cause the light from his image to always hit the blind spots of the observers, their brains would simply fill in the background.
Pretty sure your 2nd eye overlaps those blind spots irl though
@@ietsbram I didn't say it would be easy.
And how would you do it when 2 people are in a room?
@@makuru.42 The Invisible person would have to be able to coordinate the blindspots of all four eyes at the same time.
@@ietsbram So if you closed an eye then you'd be able to see a completely black figure, isn't that a scary thought?
this guy could make a 4 hour video about paint drying and i would still watch it
Me too.
he put an attraction spell on his videos
*lindybeige voice* When the change is too slow to notice, are you really watching paint dry?
I can look at someone for a while but that doesn't mean I'm watching them age!
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This manic stream of consciousness is all too relatable after my morning coffee.
How is this manic?
Let's all take a minute to appreciate that majestic robe of Lloyd's.
52 of them, to be precise.
Lord Lloyd, Duke of Beige
I misread the thumbnail. I read: The problem of being.
I thought this was going to be a more ontological rant and my boy Lindeybeige was gonna get super philosophical. I was only partly wrong. Yay.
Well, this is not surprising as the last word is literally invisible.
One of my favourite invisibilities in literature is the one used by the witches in His Dark Materials who make themselves unnoticeable. I play a lot of Runequest but I have somehow never used invisibility anywhere.
Adding to the discussion on the "Science" explanation of invisibility, people often mention that in modern society you would also have to be invisible to infrared and UV or they would be visible on cameras. This leads to additional tailoring of invisibility, like nuclear reactor operators being invisible to gamma rays, and thus aren't harmed by them, or applying invisibility to a well insulated wall to produce a window that doesn't make the house cold.
They are making transparent wood, that could be an answer to the wall thing
Funnily enough, the shifting of the phase of a wave when reflected is called “Lloyd’s Mirror Effect”
I like the common video game method of balancing it where there is a slight visible shimmer when an invisible person moves and is usually very limited in its usage time eg: titanfall
This is why I like the One Rings version of invisibility. It's not technically invisibility but it works the same way. The only thing you have to deal with however is a giant eye shouting "I see you". Well yeah you see me, you're a giant eye! Then he giggles to himself.
Well, also the constant threat of becoming enslaved to the Dark Lord's will, and the risk that if you become invisible too long or too mich, you become invisible forever.
You know. Mr Lloyd feels like a distant English Uncle to me at this point. The amount I've learned and the length he's been around plus the fact I'm just a teen.
Same, he speaks loudly my shower thoughts. It's weird. Other people say I overthink things and he makes living out of it. He is great, I love his videos.
A simple solution to the issue with the king worrying about assassins could be a see through mesh that’s placed over entry way that Isn’t already covered with a door. Or perhaps the floor is covered in a fine dust that makes peoples foot prints very clear.
If magic is readily available there could be counter spells to invisibility that allow a magically inclined guard to ensure there aren’t any invisible intruders. Maybe it’s possible to just flat out place a rune or some other object somewhere that straight up dispels any and all magic but comes with it’s own problems because now even if you find the intruder you don’t have magic of your own to deal with them.
Strings of beads over every door and carpet would probably be a lower maintenance reusable version of this.
‘Oh-ho! I’m Tom Bombadil, I’m irrelevant’ a direct quote from The Fellowship.
I love the SEP filter in Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. You aren’t invisible, you are just irrelevant. More like a psychic weapon than a optical one
It would be developed by the science of disinterest
Experts in being uninteresting and ignored.
The uniform is beige.
If you think is your calling, I’m sure they are recruiting (they keep losing interest in their staff)
I've read a book series in where the main character could cast a spell that did this. It basically made him inconsequential and as long he didn't do anything to really draw attention to himself, people would see him but not pay any attention to him and forget that he was ever there.
You can do this in real life with a clipboard and dark blue workshirt and hat. Maybe swap the clipboard with a toolbox due to situation. Go where you want.
@@Riceball01 expanding on Guy Pierson, a plot point could be that the main character tries to use the spell but doesn’t realize it failed. However, since they believed the spell worked, they were very confident and that confidence made no one question their actions. Alternately, it could be revealed the spell is a hoax and people just don’t pay attention to you if you don’t act like they are paying attention to you. Either the “felix felicis” placebo or existential loneliness route can definitely play with this concept.
Peak British humor lol. I loved it.
I’ve literally been avoiding this video since it was released.
I just knew it was going to be so good and in-line with my own thoughts that I didn’t want to confirm my insanity.
Man, if I was invisible I would go into the showers of the locker room.
Finally I could shower in a gym without being self concious!
Dude, just imagine how trippy it would be to see a man-shaped hole in the water at your local swimming pool!
You had me in the first half
You can master the ability of standing so incredibly still, that you become invisible to the eye .
-*Drax the destroyer*
I heard that works on hiokers.
First time watching one of your videos, I'm impressed! Been a long watcher of Skall and Shad, just never took the time to gander your channel. You're witty, and quite funny. I laughed out loud several times this video, and that's rare now a days for me. Thank you for your excellent work.
Not knowing if you're invisible or not would be particularly nerve-racking if you had to be nude
But it would also be very reassuring - you could be certain to know right away if the effect had worn off and everyone could see you again.
why? does nudity offend you? that's really a you problem, and it's pretty arrogant to assume everyone is similarly incompetent at life.
@@sumdumbmick It doesn't matter how comfortable you are with your body if you suddenly become visible, fully nude, in a situation where everyone else will be upset.
@@johnladuke6475 why should anyone be upset? and if they are why the fuck should you care? it takes a truly pathetic person to see a naked body and become upset at it. everyone has a body. it's not a fucking secret.
@@sumdumbmick Missing the premise a bit, aren't you? The point of the invisibility is to go unnoticed. Most places, planetwide, have a general expectation that you'll be wearing *some* amount of clothing. How you feel about the morality of it really doesn't alter the situation. If we suppose that you're invisible trying to be a spy and eavesdrop royal secrets in the throne room - where all the guards, royals, courtiers, and everyone else are clothed as per their custom - and your invisibility wears off leaving you naked, you will be spotted. It will not matter how you feel about clothes when they yell "SEIZE THE SPY!!!" and the guards will not care that it's perfectly natural when they're told to behead the naked spy.
THAT is why it's nerve-wracking. Because unless you're in a nudist colony, "wearing off" would flip you from unnoticeable to the center of attention in an instant. If you don't know it's coming, that's a big problem.
"An SEP is something we can't see, or don't see, or our brain doesn't let us see, because we think that it's somebody else's problem. That’s what SEP means. Somebody Else’s Problem. The brain just edits it out, it's like a blind spot."
Like, for example, an upended Italian bistro in the middle of a cricket pitch
The shifted out of phase photon invisibility also has the thing that photons don't come from behind you to their eyes so you're just a black spot.
29:11 - "it could be career ending for an actor"
or otherwise it could be a way to make a career as a stage actor. The ability to do or say things without being seen would be invaluable in a theater, I guess.
Or you could be hired for special effects.
There's always voice-over.
Her: He's probably thinking of other girls
Him:
This is the personification of my head brainstorming when I'm bored in class, I will discuss impossible scenarios with myself like a lunatic
This invisibility topic still afflicts Lloyd's graphic novel,
_In Search of Hannibal._
True. Quite disappointed..there wasnt an update for quite a while, or?
@@foty8679 It's never coming lol, he just saw an easy way to make a bunch of money without any effort
@@foty8679 There was an update this January.
@@jacobosborne6996,
I'm optimistic. Especially since the artist, Christopher Steininger gave us an encouraging update three months ago.
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@@jacobosborne6996 I didn't keep up with the novel. It was really just fraud?
I can imagine kings in worlds with invisibility would hire guards with very keen eyesight to spot the small disturbances, also it would be an explanation for all the torch lined walls, the smoke would give an invisible intruder away
Or an interesting sandy floor thats replaced then cleaned, if their really paranoid, and flowing fabrics all over the place, the wind of someone passing by moving the fabric
I would put waterfalls of paint in all the doorways. When the invisible man walks through, he'd be covered in paint.
Or perhaps guards that are blind, since invisibility wouldn't really work on them.
That makes me think of the Japanese palaces that had intentionally creaky floors to spot ninjas!
if TF2 is anything to go by the king would hire a pyro to constantly spycheck the room
I actually never thought about the blind part, and about that gas part you would most likely be dead upon turning into gas and would spread everywhere and most likely through the ventilation system then outside… you’ll never be whole again.
maybe thats why we see those kung fu schools standing in a grid in a room punching and kicking the air. They are making sure there are no invisible enemies around.
Being able to fight without seeing is a common trope in a lot of martial arts fiction. No use being invisible when i can sense your ki!
This seems like a Monty Python sketch in the making.
@@arx3516 I don't think you need super powers to do that, just sharp enough senses and the presence of mind to pay attention to *everything* . Sneaking up on blind people for example is extraordinarily hard, because they get so good at hearing people's footsteps and breaths that they don't always need to see you to know that not only is someone there, but that it is *you* . That said, training for this would be pointless comparatively to just using technology to shut down the reliance on our own eyes to locate enemies.
Lol
@@neruneri of course the trope is derived from real martial arts training and legends, like that of the blind swordsman, Zatoichi i think.
41:50 "Oh, there's a guy here, just get out of the way.." Did you realize you were describing the perception experiment where the subject is supposed to count how many times the players in the white shirts pass the basketball, and, focused on that, they completely miss the guy in the gorilla suit that walks through the scene?
God this channel is just so interesting. I really wish I had this guy as one of my history or social studies teachers.
Eyelids being invisible makes sleeping difficult.
Just use a blindfold... Or uh a blind sack.
That was the problem that the Man with X-ray eyes had
Unless the invisibility renders you blind. Than no problem at all.
@@markwilliams8369 He'd also end up killing anyone he regularly viewed... X-rays being a bit unkind to human flesh an' all.
Either that - or transmogrify them gradually into Incredible Hulks? (Which latter will make little sense if you ain't familiar with Marvel universe flicks/comics)
A while back, I watched a performance of A Midsummer Night's Dream at Shakespeare's Globe. At one point, Oberon said, "I am invisible." And, do you know what? None of the other characters could see him at all. Well, except Puck, but he may have been cheating.
That Puck, always such a rascal!
You never fail to make me think, sometimes about things I've never considered. Bravo
Lloyd is one of us, up at this time and still making videos
"Still Invisible and Thoroughly Miserable" is the title of my autobiography.
There is also the kind of invisibility, Tom Scott talked about in a talk a few years ago:
In a world, where everyone has chips implanted in their head, you could edit other people and things out of their perception. He talks about it as "blocking in real life", so as a deliberate decision by the implanted person, but the chips could be hacked or (as he even mentions) mandated by the government to block out certain things.
Loyd, you know that blind people can't see their limbs either, they have limb awareness
Absolutely true. But there's an even simpler test that Lloyd could do: shut his eyes and then touch his index finger to the tip of his nose then to the lobe of his left ear.
@@keithrhodes7386 Hahaha I literally did that when he started that line of argument. Was like 'well that's not nearly as difficult as he's made it out to be!'
So basically you’re saying you’ll have the agility of a blind person.. seems like the argument still holds up
Yes, you wouldn't be clumsy just moving around.
@@natesmith8523 you can still see the environment around you just fine, unlike a blind person. the point was that not being able to see your limbs doesn’t mean you don’t know where they are
We had a great encounter with invisibility in DnD. My friend found a magical ring - so obiously he had to try it. "Wow! I am invisible". Than there was a minute of childish "now you can see! now you can't!" Once he put his ring on for the fourth time, we were told by GM that we can still see him. All 3 magical charges were depleted. I will never forget seeing that face and laughter after that :D
What about an invisibility potion that gives the user uncontrollable and chronic gas? That way the people around them may not be able to see them, but they'll be able to hear and smell them.
What, an invisibility potion from Taco Bell?
"Guards! Guards! Come quickly! There's a man in street, acting invisibly!"
The moment you mentioned The Invisible Man I decided I didn't want to be spoilered, so I paused the video and finally got myself a copy I just started reading. Thanks for the motivation Lindybeige - looking forward to finishing the video in a few days!
A really cool technological invisibility concept is the camelioflage-suit. Basically a full body suit with adaptive sceens plastered all over it and cameras to adjust the images on the screens to look like whatever an observer would see if you weren’t there.
The only problem comes ehen you have more than one observer, since the suit can‘t show two separate images at once.
Conceived in 1977 by Phillip K. Dick in his "A Scanner Darkly"; a Sci-fi take on drug addiction based on personal experience.
(Recently made into a movie with Keanau Reeves, Robert Downey Jr., Woody someone and this shoplifting chick.)
@@davidstevenson9517 interesting, haven‘t seen a trailer for that, thank you
I like the Ghost in a Shell terrorist invisibility, with everyone having digitally modified eyeballs, he would hack their eyes to see that nobody is there, works from all perspectives and leaves only the trace that your eyes have been hacked.
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Ghost in the Shell has all kinds of interesting countermeasures against invisibility, or thermoptic camouflage as it's called in that universe. They have special security cameras and cybernetic eyes that can still see invisible things. And in case there is some kind of super invisibility that even the cameras can't see, sensitive places have stuff like pressure pad floors that detect intruders.
Also ofcourse the single greatest enemy of the invisible man trying to be covert and infiltrate somewhere... a closed door.