How To Get A Big Mix - Understanding Dynamics And Physical Integrity | MwD Episode 2
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2020
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Mix With Daniel - Episode 2:
Getting a mix sounding big and full is often the hardest thing to achieve for students and sound engineers, but what's the difference between an amateur mix and a radio-grade professional mix ?
In this tutorial, Daniel teaches you on how to get maximum Physical Integrity in your mix by using Dynamics and Saturation.
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there are alot of Mix Engineers, But you are from another planet. YOur style of teaching is very easy and professional. Thanks Daniel
Thanks, great to hear!
It’s not a question of analog versus in the box, to my ears, it’s a question of the in the box engineer not using good techniques and practices. Sounds like presets and a quick mix. (Speaking of the first mix)
Holy S$#t . Ive never heard this approach. You just made all my future. Mixes 30 % better
I've been BINGE watching your videoes...I'm going to watch them again, and take notes. You are THE BEST teacher, EVER!
Thanks - soon my 10 hour masterclass is available - if interested make sure you subscribe on my homepage (www.danieldettwiler.com)
And fee free to share those free tutorials, so that more could benefit from it.
@@danieldettwiler.official Thank you! You are CRUSHING IT! I learned sooooo much, in just a few days! I'm VERY grateful!
@@thomasshugar5636 thx - btw. Masterclass on my webpage (www.danieldettwiler.com) finally available:-) It goes much deeper than the free tutorials and there is a lot of philosophy and technical examples.
The outboard gear makes a huge difference!
Great video, thank you. I am extremely impressed with your style of teaching and the content. I had only to watch for a few moments before I subscribed. I am really looking forward to going through the masterclass and additional content from your channel and website. This was like an instant hook for me !!
Cool, thanks! If you buy the masterclass, let me know, how you find it! And let others know about that all. The UA-cam Channel is still somewhat small, given the fact, that we get so much positive feedback..
This single-handidly reinvigorated my drive and passion for music. Hearing how far the raw recordings could go made everything so much more in reach. I'm bewildered by your skills and am going to take all of these lessons to practice. Thank you so much for creating this. I'm so grateful beyond words =)
Great! In order to create more free stuff, the channel would need to grow - so spread the word🙂
Then, if you are interested in serious learning, check out my paid masterclass, which goes more into the depth and, obviously, is on a higher educational level...
www.danieldettwiler.com/course/daniels-mixing-bible
Another masterpiece. Thank you, Daniel...
Thanks!
Very helpful, thanks for posting!
Glad you liked it. Share it:-)
Grazie Daniel!
Your mix sounds incredible!
Thx - share the tutorial!:-)=
He just shared the tutorial with me and boy oh boy, I'm learning so much from this one video than I did from the videos I've watched so far haha. Thank You for this!
Bihler 🙌
Thank You Happy New Year 2024
thank you Daniel! thank you!!!
Always.. feel free to share it..
Thank you very much Daniel! This was a very valuable lesson for me. I tried it out immediately and I can't believe the results I got in my tests. Thanks a lot!
Glad you like it. Check my Bibles, if interested, for more in depth information on
www.danieldettwiler.com
(and as always, spread the word:-)
Thank you for sharing Daniel
Thanks. Let others know about it!
And, if you want, check out my Mixing Bible:
www.danieldettwiler.com/course/daniels-mixing-bible
Wow, thats game changing stuff. Amazing, thank you!
Thanks, share the info's and let others know about the channel
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Great content. Just subbed. Thanks for your awesome videos 🙂
Thanks for the sub!
This was really helpful Daniel thanks!
yaw.. spread the word:-)
Thanks. You explain so well.
Thanks, share the channel and content if you like it:-)
this really helped me to understand why my mix sound small... thank you so much
Very impressive. Great concept.
Here comes the use of upward vs. downward compression into play. Upward compression can help to bring out the little and important details in a mix or in a track.
Absolutely!
Thank you very much. You learned simply and effective. I don't understand why the channels like yours hasn't more subscribers? I hope you rise!
I have just subscribed 😊
*Daniel Dettwiler* ❤️❤️❤️Love this video❤️❤️❤️
Thanks, feel free to share it!
Good video, dear Daniel! All the best! 🤗
Thank you so much Amadeus !
Interesting video, I didn't have in mind a double compression from a harmonic point of view. Thks a lot.
Thanks. Spread the word.
Also check the Mixing Bible, if interested in a real masterclass. On sale till end of August.
www.danieldettwiler.com
wow your mix is very good! very cool info here
Thanks - feel free to push the channel a little bit, so I am able to make more free videos. Cheers, Daniel
If you really want to understand mixing result you have to watch this video!!! Golden rules!! Thank you Daniel!!! (Now I understand why my mixes sounded in the auto so bad; you chart and explaining how it works so great to understand)
Thanks:-)
That was awesome 💯
Thanks. Spread the word, so that the channel can grow:-)
After watching 5 min of this video , I had feel Daniel is a great engineer with solid teaching skills, thankyou sir for clearing these topics , It's very helpful.....
thanks - feel free to push the channel a little bit..
I’m glad I found this channel
Great - would be super, if you would your peers let know about it too...
good stuff
Thanks! Recommend it to others!
Outstanding video. I've been trying to learn to mix well for the couple years or so. This is truly one of those "breakthrough" videos you hope to come across. I don't often sub after only watching one video, and I subbed before the video was even over. I can't wait to watch your other videos and learn even more. Thank you!
Thanks - share it among others, so that those, who would want such in depth information would know about it.
Then: if you ever are interested in a "real" masterclass, I created a 10 hours class about mixing, that goes way more into the depth. Available on my webpage:
www.danieldettwiler.com
@@danieldettwiler.official Thanks for the tip, Daniel. I signed up on your website and finished the masterclass. It was fantastic, easily the best mixing/engineer lessons I've ever watched. I've actually rewatched the lessons several times already, and will continue to do so as there is so much valuable information.
I'd like to know if you are planning another Q&A session on UA-cam, or would it be best to contact you through the community section on your website?
Thank you!
@@pandemic7 Thanks for liking the bible - let others know about it!
Q&A: Probably I might do another one again, maybe you could try to get some other students to also take part of it, and once there are enough good questions I might do one.. Cheers, St dd
Hi, I hope you will see that - I would like to use your statement on my homepage, but there for I would need your name and a photo. Let me know, that would be great. You could just mail it on the hello@danieldettwiler.com
Cheers,
Daniel
great... very good
Thanks. Btw. in case you are interested in my masterclass, it is finally available (www.danieldettwiler.com)
The problem with online production forums is everyone talking about plugins, settings and software and never talking about the actual genres they work in. Different recipes for different meals!
Great instruction! I’m an artist who’s learning production and i I never knew how important compressing the percussion was. Thanks so much, I’ll have to check out your masterclass!
Great. Yeah, you got to check the Masterclass out - there is a lot to learn:-) Also spread the word!
There’s a difference between analog and in the box processing, did you start engineering 10 months ago
The difference between the two mixes at 3:28 literally made me laugh out loud... The depth, texture, and clarity of your mix is just stunning in comparison !! many many thanks for these videos Daniel, this is a true gift for those of us who are making acoustic music !
Thanks, spread the word (as always). Moreover that video should really see more views...
Big ass monitors and eyeglasses on the mixer. A man I can trust
sub already, please make more video like this
We will try. Feel free to share it, the more subscribers we will get, the more likely it is, that we will go on.
that "bad" jazz example sounds like it used to in the 60s. i ponder maybe the studio tried to emulate old school sound
Thanks! Spread the word!
Thank you for great lesson Daniel! I have a question about the comparison of live vs home speakers.
I often in situations that there is live acoustic musicians playing *without* any amplification.
Sometimes it's indoors and sometimes outdoors and it sounds amazing and natural to me! I never feel it is small even though it's not very loud in those situation (like live amplification).
I'm trying to get close to this experience in my mixing. Where would you place what is happening in this situation within your example of live vs home speakers.
In other words, I mean, how come it doesn't sound small in real life even though it's not loud?
Any advice is welcomed :)
It is most likely still louder. But more important: When a human hears live music, then because of how the human ear (or more how the brain analyzes it) is very detailed and you can follow every direction, so you can hear the instruments better. Listening on LS everything shares basically 2 points. It's way more difficult to follow everything, that's why we need great mixes - or : that's why music has to be mixed at all.
Very impressive and useful. Do you normally switch all the compressors of one section, eg drums, to the same musical release time, fitting the tracks bpm? Or are you purely orientated to listening and do not care too much if the different processors have different release settings. Usually I mix into a channel strip and try to set musical values to all the channels within the strip eq modules. Maybe you already did that on your analog console?
Beside that I liked how you approached the analog - digital subject. I think this is one of the most reasonable approaches I heard so far. Cheers and thank you for this video.
thanks.
No I never ever try to set "musical" time, I set the up by ear and how I like them and how I think it helps the mix best:-)
@@danieldettwiler.official Okay. Maybe some variations from channel to channel helps to make the mix more open?
Absolutely fantastic teaching, how about that Fairchild?! wow! My only question would be about pre-processed material (Sample-packs) for example. Most of the drum samples are already compressed. Would the same principles apply?
Everything needs, what it needs. If they are already heavily compressed with a similar compressor, then maybe no. If they need punch and glue, then maybe yes. It's sounding worse with the tool added, then it's too much, but before, often the more the better:-)
@@danieldettwiler.official I appreciate the reply!
The tracking is most important, mic placement & number of mics. Many jazz recordings are under miked so they are difficult to make sound large.
I just made a great recording with Jorge Rossy, using only 3 mics. I will make a video about that production. Sometimes it takes a lot of mics, sometimes it takes less - but the sources need to be miced as good as possible. Mostly the problem is the room. Music is recorded in too small rooms nowadays.
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Thanks for liking it. Spread the word!!
For any comments and question: Feel free to ask and post here - I try to come back here from time to time to check... and if you like what you have seen it would be great if you would share...
This is a great video with excellent information. Thanks!
@@ateresehouse9727 Thanks for liking it!
You showed the comparison at 5:37 (jazz mix), your mix sounds certainly great but here’s my questions:
1) The recorded material sounds pretty different. Can you make “other mix” sounds like yours without replacing the material?
2) If so, is the key to make it sound like your mix is compression and saturation that you showed in this video?
3) Do you have mix tutorial of jazz mix like the comparison one you showed in the video? Can I purchase any of your course to learn about it?
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Hi, great questions:
1) No, I could not make it as good as it is, both the recording and the mixing quality. In my example (mixed by me) I also recorded it, in a large room and with great mics and with love. The other recording was also a cheaper recording in a not ideal room. But I could mix it fairly better for sure (but that is not said to bash colleagues, though - but I just think, without knowing who did the other production, that it clearly must have been a low-budget place.). I get in a lot of Jazz-Recordings to mix and I usually get a very cool sound. But to really go top-notch: Well, if you save money at the recording stage, well, what you mess there can't be compensated by just hire a great mixer (just as a bad mix, can't be compensated at the mastering Stage).
2) It's really to get it great at every stage. My rough sounded already better than the other mix. Proper placement of mics, instruments in a good room, that's the key to start. Then in the mix, yes, it is about getting the dynamic right. Saturation can help, also compression, but not too much. That's the difficulty in Jazz. No compression and saturation lead to small sounding mixes, but if you overdo it, then the mix is worse at the end.
3) I highly recommend my Mixing Bible, available here:
www.danieldettwiler.com/course/daniels-mixing-bible
There is a lot of conceptual information in there, and it does go way deeper than my free UA-cam Tutorials. It's exactly for people asking the questions you ask. (Interesting questions, as the course is probably perfect for this intermediate level. )
@@danieldettwiler.official Thanks for reply. I am a recording engineer myself for over a decade and that was exactly what I thought that it is the most essential to record it right at the source and that gives the impact in the end.
However this UA-cam video was a bit confusing and surprising for me at first sight because you showed the comparison as if you are saying dynamic control (compression) and saturation is what differentiates “other mix” and your mix. That’s why I asked if you can “mix” the other mix to sound like yours, which I believed not possible.
That said, I am really a fan of your mix and definitely will check out the course. I will also contact you directly later if that’s okay.
Sincerely,
Leiki
ur the master everything u say make sense. just curious if too much higher harmonics wont sound good either. so how to keep all harmonics in balance especially higher order harmonics?
It's about the right balance. Too much again is then very bad, except if you need a lot of distortion. Basically, a lot of saturation leads to audible distortion. Some tracks need only saturation (less or more heavy), then some need audible saturation and some need distortion.
Good video with one caveat, lo fi is a target in traditional jazz sometimes. They may have not wanted a modern sounding mix.
Absolutely: Jazz is a very wide thing, all possible. However, if I refer to traditional jazz, in 99% of all circumstances, the instruments shall sound natural, so I simplify the phrasing, to make it more understandable.
What is the benefit of using compressors and saturation to make the waveform 'flatter'-looking vs. using an EQ? Could you achieve a similar result by boosting the mids and highs so that it looks flatter visually? Saturation increases the volume of not only the original harmonics but also introduces new harmonics (and so can make the sound more distorted and dissonant if used aggressively), which can be a downside for example.
This is covered in my Mixing Bible - (available at www.danieldettwiler.com) it is an interesting question for sure. An EQ boost would be static, and might be great if the instrument plays in the low range, but might not be appropriate anymore if the instrument plays in the high register. In Saturation however, the Harmonic's that you enhance will "move" with the Pitch of the instrument. So the "enrichment" of the instruments is not dependent of the pitch, which sometimes can be important. Also, if you boost with the EQ, it might sound great if the instrument plays soft, but it might not sound good anymore, if the instrument plays loud, as then the upper harmonics usually are louder anyway. Dynamic Equalizing is then also a good point. It's certainly something that I could most likely not cover in those free UA-cam Lessons.
@@danieldettwiler.official Thanks for the thoughtful response - those are great points. I'll check out your course!
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Ist beim A/B-Vergleichin Minute 16 die Lautheit mit und ohne fx gleich? Kommt mir nicht so vor... wäre aber beim A/B-Vergleich doch schon nötig, oder? Cooles Thema und schönes Video jedenfalls! Ach ja - Englisch... :-) Is the lodness of the two version in the A/B-comparison at minute 16 compensated? For me it sounds less loud without the fx... Coll topic and nice video though!
wäre auf jeden Fall besser gewesen, da hast Du recht:-)
This guy doesn't need a pr department. He brags enough on his own!
Have you ever noticed any phase problems when using Decapitator on drums?
Yes - if that is a problem, then I would just have it on the other tracks as well with no drive..
Is it possible to mix whole song with just trim plugin with little or no compressor?
I do practice with gain riding automation quite a lot.
I love compression - but Bruce Swedien (mixed Michael Jackson) claimed, that he would mix without compression. With only Gain-Riding, at the end, why not? A great mix is a great mix, and many engineers have different methods. As long as your mix has physical integrity all is good:-)
But....in the example at 37:55 - the version with dynamics on drums is way louder than the one without dynamics. The louder version will always sound "better"
Finally, if something sounds bad, it even is worse, if louder. Once it has a great dynamics, it also provides more energy. But I agree, in such videos, it would be good to mix it, so that all examples would be at a level that makes it easier to compare, but I do those levels during I speak and as the videos are provided for free, I don't have the time for a perfect edit (nor do I want to spend money for someone that mixes all this later).
In my paid masterclass, available at
www.danieldettwiler.com
everything goes much more into details, at a deeper level and there the examples are level matched:-)
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Your eyes 👀❤️😅
Hey Daniel, I'm wondering is the course available now?
Yes almost. Plattform to sell videos is chosen, probalby only some days to weeks now.
Did you add any samples to the snare drum
no
He looks Direct in my soul👀 6:14
Damn the original "small mix" sounds better than my best mix......
Ok - then you should check my mixing bible:
www.danieldettwiler.com/course/daniels-mixing-bible
I created this course to improve your mixing skills. How to get a large mix is a big topic in the course.
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Thanx I'll check it out!
Poor 301, having to carry all that weight of the UTA
There we see how stable the good old gear is:-)
The snare nead a filter at 800 hz 😁 , good vidéo , thanks sir 🙂🙂
Old Mix sounds like a super ruff mix, not a final.
why tf is he staring into my soul
It's funny how both of the other people mix sounds the same....and of course yours sounds better....it was intentional isn't it? That's a terrible way to get views up.