2023 Nissan Frontier | Last Man Standing

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  • Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
  • We review the last of a generation 2023 Nissan Frontier V6. This tried, and true formula makes it look old compared to the other new trucks springing up. We discuss the pros, cons, and practical considerations of why you would buy this. Others to consider are the Toyota Tacoma, Chevy Colorado, and Ford Ranger.
    #cars #engineering #affordable
    Index:
    00:00 Interior and Exterior
    1:36 Mechanical Overview
    2:48 Driving Impressions and Discussion
    8:37 Final Thoughts
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  • @reneed.1648
    @reneed.1648 10 місяців тому +861

    This is perfect for people who actually just need a decent truck.

    • @Ciqaeda
      @Ciqaeda 10 місяців тому +2

      why settle for decent though...

    • @duncdunc76
      @duncdunc76 10 місяців тому +59

      ​@Toastillaa Decent is affordable and more then likely more reliable without all the extra crap to go wrong with the vehicle. So the average working person can afford to buy a decent truck or as I like to call it the best truck. Its the best truck because its more reliable and actually afforable not to mention it usually does truck stuff like work better then a fancy truck.

    • @richardgates5786
      @richardgates5786 10 місяців тому +29

      ​@@Ciqaedabecause consumers want an option that is actually affordable (or as close to it as you can get these days)

    • @superfisher4379
      @superfisher4379 10 місяців тому +23

      ​@@CiqaedaI agree I spent 89k on a sick Tundra TRD pro. I use it to go to the gym and the super market but it is soooo sick. Also it can go anywhere OFF ROAD!!!!

    • @veryrare7647
      @veryrare7647 10 місяців тому +13

      you shouls see what nissan and toyota offer in australia and the middle east. you can still but a brand new 70-series in any configuaration you want

  • @danaunderhill8367
    @danaunderhill8367 10 місяців тому +910

    It baffles me that people think useable physical controls equals not fancy and poor.

    • @mmr0221
      @mmr0221 10 місяців тому +1

      People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis, you can’t trust people Jeremy

    • @AHungryHunky
      @AHungryHunky 10 місяців тому +90

      It's amazing the amount of marketing went into selling people mass produced screens that can just be dropped into any model. Yeah a screen is more expensive than buttons in a vacuum, but apply that to an entire fleet of vehicles and thousands of models sold.
      Personally I think screens look and feel cheap, and they date the car so horribly. Most of them are built with the same quality as my 150 dollar Motorola phone, which is something I just can't unsee.

    • @fraxonthefurry21
      @fraxonthefurry21 10 місяців тому +32

      I've had non car people not understand why I bought a base model forester for the manual transmission when they know I can afford more.
      Cars being appliances now gives people the same mindset as shoppers for smart phones.

    • @Silversmok3
      @Silversmok3 10 місяців тому +19

      It’s a generational thing. The first iPhone came out almost 20 years ago. Younger people are used to touchscreen interfaces. For them a vehicle without a touchscreen is like me having one without physical knobs- weird. In the future more and more folks will view physical controls as anachronistic. Time stops for no one

    • @bradhaines3142
      @bradhaines3142 10 місяців тому +30

      ​@@Silversmok3i was a kid when the first iphone came out and i hate it no less, and my finger still cant get this not 16:9 keyboard right, have to look for every tap. buttons should be a safety factor if nothing else. touch screens on cars should be like using your phone while driving, because it's exactly the same

  • @frankypc
    @frankypc 10 місяців тому +163

    When you are upgrading from a 20 year old truck. This "old" technology truck feels like a spaceship. My dad absolutely loves his 2022 Frontier

    • @ML_1515
      @ML_1515 9 місяців тому

      Yes, im driving a 2005 truck… so this Frontier would be a huge upgrade lol

    • @archermoody9746
      @archermoody9746 8 місяців тому +2

      been driving a 2001 ford ranger for the last 13 years i've had my license. everytime i get into something post 2010 i feel like i've entered a spaceship.

    • @lolotus4borderless
      @lolotus4borderless 7 місяців тому

      Same here lol

    • @bekabeka71
      @bekabeka71 5 місяців тому

      @@archermoody9746I want to buy a Ford ranger old, just for the looks and aesthetics, do you recommend it?

    • @johnnydawson9710
      @johnnydawson9710 4 дні тому

      I absolutely love my 2022 Frontier as well

  • @chrisfreemesser5707
    @chrisfreemesser5707 10 місяців тому +629

    If Nissan's smart they'll keep pumping these out as-is for as long as possible...the more crazy the economy/car market gets, the more people will migrate to simple "honest" vehicles like this that they can actually kind of afford

    • @shanec9672
      @shanec9672 10 місяців тому +35

      I say some variation of this in every Savagegeese video about a truck, but if you build a single cab 8 foot bed pickup truck that humans can afford, the world will beat a path to your door.

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin 10 місяців тому

      Would be amusing if those like Nissan with existential fears ended up the kings of a declining economy.

    • @David_Journey
      @David_Journey 10 місяців тому +9

      Afford as long as gas is subsidized heavily by the government. If they meant affordability, they would produce a 1/2 sized truck with four cylinder. Nothing screams affordable more like 45k+$ trucks with dealer markups.

    • @sniffsnarff
      @sniffsnarff 10 місяців тому +28

      @@shanec9672 Preach! It's darn near impossible to get a single cab fullsize for less than 50k$ in anything but the poverty spec. The auto industry has lost its collective mind and consumers are addicted to debt. I don't think this can go on forever.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 10 місяців тому +4

      @@shanec9672 I would want one of the old chevy 1500s with the suicide extended cab doors again since the rear seat folds up to form an internal secure "toolbox" of sorts. But yes basically what you said is so true! Nissan trucks and sports cars definitely fall in this category. Tried and true, gets the job done, relatively cheap and only the relevant safety and aesthetic elements are upgraded. No need to reinvent the wheel with every model iteration, that "innovation" (more like selling gimmicks we don't need) is what has been driving the prices up and forcing folks to take on insane amounts of car debt for years.

  • @thetinysideoftiny7625
    @thetinysideoftiny7625 10 місяців тому +228

    I bought this truck for it's old school simplicity. I did NOT want a turbo 4 and touch screens in place of physical controls. I've owned it for a year now and I love it. Quiet, comfortable, powerful, well assembled. If you view this as a humble workhorse that gets the job done, you'll be very happy. If you have high-tech aspirations or expect this vehicle to be a plush SUV - this is not the vehicle for you. The new Frontier is a basic truck on a well-proven platform. There's no shame in that.

  • @motodrang4287
    @motodrang4287 10 місяців тому +267

    Short video, modest truck, and the one of most relevant reviews in a while for those of us who want to remember what an attainably real vehicle is like.

  • @andrewhillman9632
    @andrewhillman9632 10 місяців тому +117

    Nissan knows their target audience. I like this truck, a throw back to the past, affordable, imperfect. A new truck you could buy and drive for less than $1,700/MO your neighbor pays for a DuraMax, GMC Denali he uses to tow a jet ski. 😮😅

    • @dafordkidfilms2264
      @dafordkidfilms2264 10 місяців тому +10

      For a truck as good as this, imperfect makes it perfect. 😊

    • @veryrare7647
      @veryrare7647 10 місяців тому +11

      tow? you're being generous

    • @Resistculturaldecline
      @Resistculturaldecline 10 місяців тому +9

      Even a jet ski trailer is a statistical exception. Most big pickup buyers tow nothing, or anything other than commute. They wear the trucks as a cosplay outfit. The truck is a physical manifestation of an imagined lifestyle that would require rugged items, if the fantasy was true.
      In reality, the softer lifestyles get, the more rugged the make-believe becomes to compensate.

    • @GeminiWoods
      @GeminiWoods 9 місяців тому +3

      Fully loaded trucks are going for as much as my mom paid for her house in the 90s. It's outrageous!

  • @tims3065
    @tims3065 10 місяців тому +118

    Marks rant at 6 mins was absolute truth. People will not keep up with every car/truck being 50-80k forever and those manufacturers who forget that are missing a huge market.

    • @CharletonTempletonStrong
      @CharletonTempletonStrong 10 місяців тому +7

      I agree- Mark has thought provoking commentary that is usually on spot.

    • @ztunelover
      @ztunelover 10 місяців тому +1

      I honestly think that’s why the Ford Maverick is doing so well, it’s cheap, and it does a lot of the trucky things for the wannabe truckists that used yo larp with basic F150s/Silverados but now that the prices of those are shooting through the roof, they can just be like “well this little truck does what I need for a relatively small amount of money.”

    • @Deadlybroom
      @Deadlybroom 10 місяців тому +8

      Make the most money now, screw everyone, then, complain to big brother when it all come crashing down. Anybody else hearing blaring alarms?

    • @mattbrown942
      @mattbrown942 10 місяців тому +1

      The new titans fully loaded are in the 50s where as the gmc and ford’s fully loaded are in the 80s so Nissan is doing a pretty good job here

    • @JDYOUNGEARTH777
      @JDYOUNGEARTH777 10 місяців тому +3

      In the near future the rich will be the only ones driving!!

  • @Alexandroidd
    @Alexandroidd 10 місяців тому +151

    I picked one of these up. ‘22 pro4x with all the things. I get comments on it frequently which surprised me. People like it. And I bought it for the reasons outlined here. I didn’t want some strung out block on turbos. I’m expecting people will appreciate these trucks more and more as this formula fades from prevalence.

    • @vorant77
      @vorant77 10 місяців тому

      Turbos are to engines what crack cocain is to humans.

  • @johng.4959
    @johng.4959 10 місяців тому +97

    This and the Titan are my favorite trucks! No turbo BS!! Basic naturally aspirated engines and solid builds. Not even the domestics build trucks like this. Please keep these alive Nissan!

    • @ghilliemanreviews
      @ghilliemanreviews 10 місяців тому +13

      It’s unfortunate the titan is going away. Both are great trucks.

    • @matthewthedude146
      @matthewthedude146 10 місяців тому +2

      @@ghilliemanreviews The titan is going away but the frontier is staying for the foreseeable future, as they are selling rather well

    • @ghilliemanreviews
      @ghilliemanreviews 10 місяців тому

      @@matthewthedude146 I know

    • @austinatomTV
      @austinatomTV 10 місяців тому +4

      Sadly Tacoma is going turbo 4.

  • @drtofuu
    @drtofuu 10 місяців тому +55

    As a 40 something man who can type without looking at the keyboard I hate having to look away from the road to adjust *ANYTHING* in my car. It baffles me how car companies will cushion a whole family in 50 airbags but overlook the simple fact that they should also do whatever they can to have people looking where they are going.

    • @marclangman4836
      @marclangman4836 10 місяців тому +16

      The fact it is illegal to look at my phone while driving but a manufacturer can force me to look at a screen to perform frequent actions still baffles me.

    • @Blue-moon12
      @Blue-moon12 7 місяців тому +2

      You need K.I.T.T my friend

  • @Cheezes101
    @Cheezes101 10 місяців тому +66

    Finally a sensible truck that actual working ppl can buy. What a novel concept. Way to go Nissan.

  • @Kg363
    @Kg363 10 місяців тому +101

    Bought a pro 4x on Monday. $4k under sticker and they bought down my rate. It was exactly what I was looking for and I love it. Only complaint is my knee bumps into the 2/4/4l dial area if someone is sitting behind me.

    • @cgrist7000
      @cgrist7000 10 місяців тому +9

      What was your out the door price if you don’t mind sharing?

    • @Kg363
      @Kg363 10 місяців тому

      @@cgrist7000 All of the packages and a bunch of accessories/add ons, the sticker was $48k. Out the door was $44k

    • @joecro1453
      @joecro1453 10 місяців тому

      Still couldn’t afford it if you financed

    • @TyphusVonElder
      @TyphusVonElder 10 місяців тому

      ​@@joecro1453if you cant afford a 46k dollar truck, get a better job or buy off market place and fix it up

    • @curiosityredpill7030
      @curiosityredpill7030 10 місяців тому +2

      How tall?

  • @vinny.senpai
    @vinny.senpai 10 місяців тому +29

    Traded in my 18 WRX in fear of long term reliability with a DI turbo for a '22 Frontier Pro-X with 1600 miles. It has has everything I need in a vehicle, simple controls and no bullshit. I've already put it work with hauling a fridge across town. It's an honest truck with no gimmicks. The NA V6 is quite punchy and I average around 24MPG on the highway. So far, I'm not regretting my trade in.

  • @thromeas1
    @thromeas1 10 місяців тому +75

    I bought one last October and plan to keep it till it dies. This truck is amazing! It has great power, the transmission is smooth, and it's a genuinely good looking truck.

    • @mmr0221
      @mmr0221 10 місяців тому +1

      Any issues with it so far?

    • @KS-yc8di
      @KS-yc8di 10 місяців тому +1

      What was the thing about it 'driving not as good as the new taco' part? What's missing?

    • @swampssa
      @swampssa 10 місяців тому +7

      @@mmr0221I bought one around the same timeframe. The only issues that I’ve had has been misc cosmetic stuff. Like one of the seals around the door started to fall off. Dealership fixed it in like 30 minutes. Engine wise and electrically I’ve had zero.

    • @mmr0221
      @mmr0221 10 місяців тому +2

      @@swampssa sounds good - a poor dealership experience is another thing that I worry about with Nissans but I’ve had poor experiences with almost every brand

    • @aprtur
      @aprtur 10 місяців тому

      ​​@@mmr0221it's definitely hit or miss from a dealer perspective. Personally, with my past Nismos, my local dealer was great and respected my requests to not wash the car. Then again, they're a GT-R certified shop and service a ton of vintage Z's in the area, so they may be more attentive than others.

  • @KoolKyurem25
    @KoolKyurem25 10 місяців тому +69

    Nissan pickups have always been underrated in the 21st century. Hardbody D21s used to be basically the more affordable Toyota Pickup and they haven't been much different in that formula. Though now the trucks are even closer in quality, reliability, and utility

  • @paulpixphotos
    @paulpixphotos 10 місяців тому +139

    Hope they bring back the Xterra on this platform. Would be a great competitor with other small SUV returns.

    • @ShotGunner5609
      @ShotGunner5609 10 місяців тому +8

      I'd buy the first first model year if they did that!i love my 01 X, just wish i had 4x4

    • @chiemekaa
      @chiemekaa 10 місяців тому +14

      I was just thinking the same. That's one crucial thing missing from the Nissan lineup. And that segment is about to heat up again with the Land Cruiser/Prado and possibly 4Runner. They should not wait until everyone else gobbles up the market share.

    • @_gramcrakka_82
      @_gramcrakka_82 10 місяців тому +4

      Love my 05 xterra. If they came out with a new one I'd buy a first year as well. As long as it's a 6 speed of course.

    • @christopher9626
      @christopher9626 10 місяців тому

      That was the first thing I thought of when I took y 2023 S for a drive. An Xterra would rock on that platform! But they dont want a competitor against Pathfinder though

    • @joeamith838
      @joeamith838 10 місяців тому +1

      I've been saying this since they updated the Frontier and the outdoor craze is booming...Nissan ,...always a day late and a dollar short.

  • @BoneStack117
    @BoneStack117 10 місяців тому +45

    The Frontier never reviews well in traditional car media, but they sell well and owners love them. It has been and is a reliable, dutiful truck. This is the truck you get if you actually use it for work or seriously play without showing off and or bankrupting yourself.
    I've owned two gen 2 Frontiers and a D21 Hardbody and love them all.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 10 місяців тому +1

      Yep, it's weird, doesn't have the following of the Taco (really mostly thanks to Top Gear), but there are still Hardbodys and old Pathfinders rolling around just fine. The Xterra is another gem in the rough once a couple things are taken care of to make them bulletproof. I knew a buddy who picked a low km one up and put a bit of money into a dedicated trans cooler, oil cooler, upgraded radiator, and a coolant swirl pot and wrapped all the bare plastic parts. It looks great and he sends it overland no problem!

    • @thetinysideoftiny7625
      @thetinysideoftiny7625 10 місяців тому +1

      Very well stated. I have a 2022 Frontier and I love it. It's a simple, honest, durable workhorse.

    • @St.Irenaeus
      @St.Irenaeus 10 місяців тому

      Well said man! 👏🏽 totally agree!

  • @phillm156
    @phillm156 10 місяців тому +15

    Nissan is following the "naturally aspirated, manual controls" trend. I’m a fan!

  • @rteitel1974
    @rteitel1974 10 місяців тому +51

    I actually test drove one last December when Nissan was giving killer lease deals. I actually liked it. Classic truck! Looks nice as well.

    • @jackmac66
      @jackmac66 10 місяців тому

      What is the deal ?

    • @rteitel1974
      @rteitel1974 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jackmac66 At the time, it was a 12 or 18 month lease for a fully loaded version that MSRP'd at around 46k for $475/mo and 15k miles/yr.

  • @ZZZZ-mkv
    @ZZZZ-mkv 10 місяців тому +52

    I'll take a Frontier over anything else on the market. The previous gen was plenty comfy even without all the bells and whistles.

  • @dforrest4503
    @dforrest4503 10 місяців тому +25

    Savage Geese continues to be one of the few channels that honestly reviews cars real people can buy. It’s appreciated.

  • @chrisl3062
    @chrisl3062 10 місяців тому +10

    The best part of this review is that you can probably just repost it in 15 years and it'll still be relevant

    • @kevinbailey3239
      @kevinbailey3239 10 місяців тому +1

      Surprised they did this one seeing as they did it last year when it was first refreshed. Same story.

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s 10 місяців тому +23

    Love it...physical switches, not ridiculously expensive, a drivetrain that will probably last forever...good stuff. And they should do a Frontier Nismo and slap a supercharger on it like they used to back in the day.

  • @kellykramer7629
    @kellykramer7629 10 місяців тому +30

    I appreciate car reviewers talking about reality for most people. It sure seems like a lot of car manufacturers still haven’t figured out most people can’t afford their products.

  • @TheBonsaiZone
    @TheBonsaiZone 10 місяців тому +34

    Thank goodness for Nissan, one of the few companies that make good affordable vehicles!!!

    • @sdalexander8505
      @sdalexander8505 10 місяців тому +1

      Ehhhhhh… anything without a CVT is alright i guess. Their V6 engines have proven to be pretty reliable.

    • @helmhamburgerhand
      @helmhamburgerhand 10 місяців тому

      affordable yes. good... yea not so much.

  • @BarnStangz
    @BarnStangz 10 місяців тому +89

    We had a 2006 Frontier with the supercharger and it was amazing how it would make cool nosies but was so slow still. We beat on pretty hard and it held up well. Just went through a lot of brakes. It was honestly not that bad of a truck, we got almost 200k miles on it with nothing but basic maintenance. I would probably cross shop one of these with the Tacoma if you want to watch you dollars and are worried about turbos and all that jazz. Thanks for the review gents.

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum 10 місяців тому +7

      My Dad had a 2005 Frontier with the supercharged 3.3L V6. Indeed, it still somehow felt slow. It was a fantastic truck though. Very dependable for the 200k miles he had it. Nothing major went wrong. Just little things.

    • @zenkoz3158
      @zenkoz3158 10 місяців тому +6

      ​@@palebeachbumprobably because that was an engine that remained largely unchanged since its debut in the early 80's powering the maxima and 300zx.

    • @TheDagraner4576
      @TheDagraner4576 10 місяців тому +1

      We had a similar nissan frontier with a v6 supercharger and I loved it. The only problem was the abysmal gas mileage it got for a mid size truck.

    • @danr154
      @danr154 10 місяців тому +1

      Ive driven one of these supercharged ones, 5 speed manual. I feel like it was geared to be slow.

    • @BarnStangz
      @BarnStangz 10 місяців тому

      @@danr154 Yeah for sure. Off road the thing had pretty nice gearing. It was a good truck for the most part. I remember wading water almost past the tires too, it did well. Pretty good truck honestly, just got rid of it because 200k miles seemed high to me.

  • @Bigern2998
    @Bigern2998 10 місяців тому +9

    A lot of people who have a lot of money got there by making smart decisions. I am a doctor but I drive a 14 year old Honda Odyssey that I bought new. This truck is appealing to me because there is no gambling at this point. I will still probably get a used 4Runner or something next but I appreciate this truck.

    • @lolcatcatlols
      @lolcatcatlols 10 місяців тому

      True! The 4runner is the king of decent to well off people who aren't "car" people just wanting an SUV they don't have to think about - it just works.

  • @115bdogg
    @115bdogg 10 місяців тому +22

    In my Area, San Diego, Nissan was the only dealership that did not have any markups on vehicles for the past few years. Toyota had a 10k mark up and even kia across the street had a 8k mark up. I laughed at the sales guy and said you can't mark up a kia because its a kia.

    • @zephead843
      @zephead843 10 місяців тому +7

      "You can't mark up a Kia because...it's a Kia!" Words to live by.

    • @uce.4lo
      @uce.4lo 10 місяців тому +2

      Toyota Carlsbad had no markups last year when I bought a TRDOR Tacoma

  • @smallfact0ry921
    @smallfact0ry921 10 місяців тому +32

    Another great video fellas: I grabbed a new (fairly base trim) Tacoma a few month back when I realized Toyota was offering 1.9% at 48 months. Same reasoning as you pointed out in this video: my priority was long term reliability, simplicity, and something I could get off the "hamster wheel" of constant changing of cars. I drove home, suited up, and with 90 miles on the odometer, fluid-filmed the entire underside (I live in the north east). It has everything I need (apple car play, adaptive cruise, etc) after owning and trying out all the latest tech, realizing most was just gimmicks that wow'd me on the test drive but two weeks in I couldn't care less about.

    • @Black-Villain
      @Black-Villain 10 місяців тому +8

      Would recommend trying out some other rustproofers. Fluid Film is fantastic, but it kinda washes off easily, and it's basically gone if you go through an undercarriage car wash once. CRC Marine Corrosion Inhibitor works just as well if not better, and since it's just cosmoline in a spray can, it's basically impossible to wash off and it usually lasts on the underside of a vehicle for 2-3 years before needing reapplied

    • @smallfact0ry921
      @smallfact0ry921 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Black-Villain i researched the hell out of it, talked to off-road guys, trucking company owners, ect and they all said fluid film. I purchased a 5-gallon can of fluid-film and the sprayer: I’ve used it for years on multiple vehicles. It’s certainly not going to wash off after one under carriage wash, but should be re-applied every fall. The first application sucks because you have to fill the frame, rockers, remove spare, skid, ect. But now I can re-apply it in 20 minutes. It’s also safe over rubber, electrical connections, ect. I won’t even touch it up this year because we got no snow last year and had no salt on the roads (first year I can say that)

  • @zandergourley6089
    @zandergourley6089 10 місяців тому +75

    This is the only truck I turn my head behind to look at, I think its super well done and looks amazing. Those side steps will have to come off though.

    • @robob221
      @robob221 10 місяців тому +8

      This and the Tacoma have angles and cuts that make them look classic. I think the frontier looks angular and flashy while the Tacoma is more rounded and less in your face. Both look great but there is definitely a preference of classic/modern style. The tacoma has been on the road a lot longer than the new frontier so it does seem one is "fresher" than the other. I personally prefer the more subtle classic truck look of the Tacoma vs the try hard in your face body effects in these newer suv's/trucks like the Frontier. What is MOST important though is the reliability of that transmission. If it is not up to the Tacoma standard the value will drop and it won't be on my shopping list.

    • @danielpope6498
      @danielpope6498 10 місяців тому

      Agreed, these actually look pretty good.

    • @zandergourley6089
      @zandergourley6089 10 місяців тому +2

      @@robob221 that’s a good point, I rented a Tacoma TRD for work and it drove awful on the highway, but in 4H it did do well on the dirt roads. Seeing the price difference in both trucks, and in my career everyone has a Tacoma, id stick with the frontier

    • @atmartens
      @atmartens 10 місяців тому +4

      The Tacoma sucks for anyone tall. By far one of the most uncomfortable trucks I’ve ever had to drive.

    • @brad4527
      @brad4527 10 місяців тому

      ​@@danielpope6498well saId

  • @GeorgeGeo
    @GeorgeGeo 10 місяців тому +23

    Its a great Truck and lineage. I had a 1987 and a 2003.. they are easy to maintain, does the job its built for. I think it looks great too.. For me as a midsize pickup.. Taco and Fronty are it.

  • @66rollincoal
    @66rollincoal 10 місяців тому +19

    Traded my 6.2l silverado for a long-bed sv and its pretty great. Small, manuverable, fuel efficient and it doesnt lack power.

    • @veryrare7647
      @veryrare7647 10 місяців тому

      i had a 2500hd silverado.... what a lemon

    • @66rollincoal
      @66rollincoal 10 місяців тому

      @@veryrare7647 oh I still have my Duramax lol. It has the lml, I've had problems with the emissions but she ain't a lemon lol.

    • @bradh6185
      @bradh6185 10 місяців тому

      Doesn't it get similar mpg as the 6.2?

  • @minjin0259
    @minjin0259 8 місяців тому +5

    I test drove the Frontier directly after driving the Tacoma, and I liked the Frontier better. It felt more solid, more grounded, and less sketchy in the front end. Add the fact that it is 5k less than the Tacoma and it wasn't a hard decision to make.

  • @denvercyclist
    @denvercyclist 10 місяців тому +12

    You guys nailed it we bought a 2022 frontier for reliability & it's old school simplicity.
    Also we were able to get it fully loaded for the price of a used Tacoma.

  • @mmr0221
    @mmr0221 10 місяців тому +6

    Keep the V6 and I will keep buying it

  • @victorsaenz9452
    @victorsaenz9452 10 місяців тому +9

    I love my FJ it’s an 07, boring engine and only a 5 speed transmission. No glitz and glamour. It’s basic, it’s reliable, and I drive it across the nation for work. So with that being said I can really appreciate the frontier being on the market.

    • @povertyspec9651
      @povertyspec9651 10 місяців тому +2

      Toyota should never have stopped making those.

  • @travisp11
    @travisp11 10 місяців тому +13

    I had a chance to test drive a Pro 4X this summer and I was impressed by it. At some point in the future I will buy one. The engine is plenty powerful for in town and highways/freeway drives. As for prices I see well equipped SVs in the low to mid 30s and loaded Pro 4Xs in the low to mid 40s. Maybe a bit more expensive than the Colorado but you get a solid NA V6 and lots of standard equipment.

  • @tomh507
    @tomh507 10 місяців тому +13

    35k miles on my 22 SV 4x4 and it's been great. I just made a 900+ mile drive and it was very comfortable. The V6/9 speed is smooth and has plenty of grunt, plus the hefty hydraulic steering gives it a very solid and connected feel.

    • @judgeman6970
      @judgeman6970 9 місяців тому

      Curious, what kind of hwy mpg did you get?

    • @tomh507
      @tomh507 9 місяців тому +1

      @@judgeman6970 I usually average 20-22 mpg on the highway, 24 if I'm really hypermiling it. On my road trip I averaged 18, that's with a lead foot at 80mph most of the way.

    • @rjdingle9494
      @rjdingle9494 8 місяців тому

      @@tomh507 oof! I average 18 on my road trips with a '08 Xterra

  • @brad4527
    @brad4527 10 місяців тому +7

    I know people said this before, This is truly the best review!!! love how you tell people how us Nissan owners feel about our trucks to people who think Nissan should add this or that.....
    Finally you 2 say it like it is!!!❤❤❤❤😊😊!
    Thank you so much!!!
    Brad.

  • @xXTenAirXx
    @xXTenAirXx 10 місяців тому +22

    Love my 23 Frontier. It's a simple honest truck. It's surprisingly comfortable and quiet on the highway.

  • @Lambo6fo
    @Lambo6fo 10 місяців тому +3

    I've owned my 2023 Frontier for 6000 kilometers now. I really like it. Learning to lift and coast will get you 20 mpg city.

  • @Suction_
    @Suction_ 10 місяців тому +20

    I drove one a while back and really liked it. Interior really is kinda cheap and the back seat is far to vertical for my liking; but effort was used and it shows. Hopefully this one lasts another 10 years in the market.
    It's this or the taco for me really. Both are great options, one more basic, one more complex

  • @TheD189379
    @TheD189379 10 місяців тому +16

    I like the truck, but unfortunately the dealerships here in Canada are still treating them like limited edition Ferraris

    • @Ichibuns
      @Ichibuns 8 місяців тому +1

      Mine is offering a $4000 discount on a new Pro-4X. It's crazy how much location can make a difference

    • @thecount1001
      @thecount1001 6 місяців тому

      the perspective difference is interesting eh? in Canada, you better be prepared to be totally raped if you think of buying one of these, let alone a top model. there is no such thing as affordability with vehicles in this country. long gone.

  • @vitaly6312
    @vitaly6312 10 місяців тому +5

    This is a brilliant little truck. It’s stylish, the ride is decent, the engine is powerful enough, and it’s capable enough to do some towing, hauling, and off-roading all while being practical for people to drive to work or through the Macdonald’s drive through.
    I really think Nissan nailed it. I just wish it had come out a year or before it did, I would’ve snagged one up.

  • @drywinddotnet
    @drywinddotnet 10 місяців тому +3

    After your recent livestream, I have a lot more appreciation for how hard you guys work. Thanks for this.

  • @ZackNakazora1
    @ZackNakazora1 10 місяців тому +2

    I got a semi loaded 2023 sv rwd (pre auto start model) I bought it specially cause it's a new truck that's old. No gimmicks. Easy to use controls. Parts compatability for years. Consumables and repairs aren't bad. The sv doesn't have the 900 dollar headlamps. It's rwd yes but for what I need it for it's perfect and I'm returning 23 mpg on 87 octane. Hauls 4 260 lb+ guys to work and does the road trip thing rather well. I love the new canyon but again for the price I trust this to make it to 10 years without major issues. And it only cost me 35k (after a discount for end of month sales) leather steering wheel. Remote start. Heated cloths seats. It's perfect. You can't eve n buy a corolla that has those for 35k and I can still tow a trailer with it. Good review. Not knocking it at all but indeed. Truck is truck and it's not trying to be something else. Oh and it's cheaper than a maverick...

  • @darren1922
    @darren1922 10 місяців тому +2

    I love my 2016 Pro4X. I've always had Nissan trucks and they have never let me down or left me stranded. Best bang for your buck.

  • @Ian_Mag
    @Ian_Mag 10 місяців тому +4

    Even tho these might be the pay the bill videos I really appreciate you guys doing them. They’re perfect for just putting on in the background while I burn the Mac-and-cheese as my toddler screams at me for not going to Arby’s.

  • @patrickryan7919
    @patrickryan7919 10 місяців тому +3

    I bought my ‘22 Frontier because I wanted a good ol truck that simply works. Got rid of ‘18 F150 that gave me nothing but trouble. Daily driven, off road driven and it tows a travel trailer with zero issues thus far. Favorite vehicle I’ve had in a longgg time.

  • @domdrty
    @domdrty Місяць тому +2

    The more I see the Frontier Pro-4X, the more I want one.

  • @NewCastleIndiana
    @NewCastleIndiana 10 місяців тому +2

    I have a2023 as a lease. It’s a truck. It works. I can get 28 mpg if I drive it calmly. Same as my 2023 Vette.

  • @t.regnerus301
    @t.regnerus301 10 місяців тому +3

    I currently own a 2023 Pro 4x that I daily drive to work and occasionally haul stuff. It's a great truck for the average person who doesn't need every gewgaw the empire has to offer. I've had zero issues with it and I get around 20mpg. I love it. I do plan on coating the undercarriage myself this fall to offset the salting they do in Indiana. If you want a simple truck I recommend it 100%

  • @mugenx991
    @mugenx991 10 місяців тому +6

    Thank you for all the amazing content over the years Savagegeese and Savageduck!

  • @blainelashley2120
    @blainelashley2120 10 місяців тому +2

    im proud of nissan for having the guts to just throw in a solid na v6, no bs just a solid platform

  • @charlesspillar6934
    @charlesspillar6934 10 місяців тому +14

    Not the last pickup with a V6. The Honda Ridgeline also has a naturally aspirated V6. Not body on frame though.

    • @whois3581
      @whois3581 10 місяців тому +4

      The Honda Ridgeline is not a truck. I own an '06. It's a MAN VAN! It's a nice vehicle, much like an Odessey with a small bed, but not really a truck truck. And the newer ones are even less of a truck. The frontier is a truck. They just need to put a manual transmission back in it!

    • @gabigabigavin
      @gabigabigavin 10 місяців тому

      ​@@whois3581😂

    • @liveoak7838
      @liveoak7838 10 місяців тому +1

      Ridgeline, haha. how many Ridglines do you see with lumber racks or used for working at a jobsite. it's just a unibody suv with the rear roof cut out. it competes with the maverick. light duty. try to climb a steep off road trail in the heat and you will overheat the front wheel drive transmission. Ridgeline is a good vehicle if you just need the utility of a bed but it can't compete when it comes to real work for a real working person.

    • @SM-og9pt
      @SM-og9pt 10 місяців тому +2

      Jeep Gladiator too

    • @whois3581
      @whois3581 10 місяців тому +2

      @@SM-og9pt Who's dumb enough to pay money for a Jeep?

  • @thomaspowers4952
    @thomaspowers4952 10 місяців тому +3

    6:06 Awesome rant! Great work as always guys!

  • @jsandy44
    @jsandy44 10 місяців тому +5

    You guys make me interested in any car. I hate trucks, but I want this one now. You guys are the best at your jobs in the industry

  • @aaronlabeau
    @aaronlabeau 10 місяців тому +5

    I love the heart of this and every other video you do. 'Crumbling middle class' you're not kidding. Though who wouldn't want to turn their credit score to 0 in that Hummer EV you drove and just destroy it off road.

  • @patricklachance3187
    @patricklachance3187 10 місяців тому +6

    I watched this review to help me love my '22 Pro 4X more... I know of all its qualities, but it lacks a few things such as comfortable back seats (yes, I tow a lot and we travel as a family so the kids complain quite a bit) and ease of use in the city (such a poor radius!). If you are a city dweller and want to use this as a daily, you'll find yourself swearing every now and then. The tranny also has room for improvement, especially between the 1st and 3rd gears as it is a bit clunky, especially when the weather is cold. As a canadian, I experience this too often between October and April. It's also a bit fragile: paint, pannels and windshield... Still, I like it and bought it as a forever truck to tow, go camping/biking, mess around in trails and travel long distance on paved roads. However, I might part with it in the near future and eventually get something more modern and comfortable for the entire family.

  • @Tysonator1981
    @Tysonator1981 10 місяців тому +9

    I really appreciate videos like these with a lot of honesty and real everyday appliance type vehicles. I'm looking to replace an aging luxury car with something a little more basic and reliable with the ability to still have a little fun. And the selection out there is tough without wanting to spend a fortune

  • @adrianw3985
    @adrianw3985 10 місяців тому +8

    I had a 2008 Titan, it never let me down. Nissan makes good trucks.

    • @mmr0221
      @mmr0221 10 місяців тому

      How many miles do you have on it now out of curiosity?

    • @adrianw3985
      @adrianw3985 10 місяців тому +1

      @@mmr0221 I don't have it anymore, but it was at 150,000 when I sold it.

  • @wranglercody8422
    @wranglercody8422 10 місяців тому +2

    I bought a base frontier about a year ago. So far I love it. Seems like it’s built to last, god willing it does.

  • @thelifeofguyon
    @thelifeofguyon 10 місяців тому +2

    Wow, you actually made the Frontier sound really appealing. Nice.

  • @tylerflores-tucker1323
    @tylerflores-tucker1323 10 місяців тому +7

    Picked my fully loaded Pro4X in September of 21 and I love it. I get so many compliments on it when at the pumps.
    3 things it needs…
    1.telescoping steering wheel
    2.better camera clarity
    3. 1-2 inch lift from factory
    Easy updates for Nissan to make in future years!

    • @timsoutdoorlife
      @timsoutdoorlife 10 місяців тому

      I got my fully loaded Pro4x in October of 22. Immediately added a 2" lift and upgraded to Cooper Rugged Trek tires. Truck looks great and I have a lot of people compliment it. It is a solid truck and drives great. People that have reviewed the truck say the steering is heavy but that is a real benefit when off road. Gets decent mileage. I am averaging 21.6 mpg over the time I have owned it.

  • @stingrayl82
    @stingrayl82 10 місяців тому +4

    Is the Gladiator not a mid-size truck that offers a naturally-aspirated V6?

  • @dasautogt
    @dasautogt 10 місяців тому +1

    Honest, objective review. Thanks chaps.

  • @MrNavidad
    @MrNavidad 10 місяців тому +2

    I just got one 4 days ago, love it so far and am looking forward to using it more.

  • @davekashuba4730
    @davekashuba4730 10 місяців тому +12

    Jack hanging out there in the passing lane for no reason - he knows how this vehicle will be used.

  • @kennethhughes8392
    @kennethhughes8392 10 місяців тому +5

    Great video, and timely for me. I have been wanting to get a mid-size truck as a replacement for my Mazda3, and honestly, this is the one that has most appealed to me. I love my Mazda ('21 turbo hatch), but from a practically perspective for what we want to do (carting the family/pets around, camping, etc.) it's ultimately been a bit limiting. When I started looking at trucks, it's easy to get sucked in to all the new ones, but I keep coming back to the Frontier as potentially the best option for all the reasons you mention. Anyway, enjoyed the video (and your long term Mazda3 one), and love the way you guys put things in perspective.

  • @prodogey69
    @prodogey69 10 місяців тому +2

    It has A Nissan VQ series engine! remember how long Nissan's VQ was in "Wards top 10 "engine awards? It's very quiet inside with double pane windows.
    Interior quality has a good fit and finish, with just enough features like android auto and wireless apple car play along with wireless charging and adaptive cruise control to please people that enjoy tech.
    Cool points* it also shares it's variable pressure oil pump from a GTR.

  • @im-oc4jr
    @im-oc4jr 8 місяців тому +2

    You guys are pretty good. But one comment about people with disposable income.
    I just traded my 2018 Tacoma TRD Off Road for 2023 Nissan Pro-4X with Nismo off road kit. Got it for the low 40s.
    I could have bought anything else in the truck world (I just bought a couple years old Lambo Huracan, backed out of a Ferrari 458 Italia purchase after watching your review, thanks for the excellent review!) but I found this truck very appealing. I need a daily driver that can go to the hardware store and get me dirt, mulch etc... when my wife needs to build another garden. It is very analog with no hybrid or turbo technology, just a straight N/A V6 with a very well coupled 9 speed (I hear Mercedes) transmission. My 2018 Tacoma drive train was pitiful compared to this truck.
    I looked at Ford Raptor, Chevrolet Colorado ZR2, GMC AT4X (liked it) and of course Jeep Gladiator Mojave (severely overpriced and unreliable but very off-road capable). I did not want to wait for a new Tacoma since it will be at least a year before I am able to get one and will be overpriced anyway (also I had my share of issues with the current Taco that I just traded in).
    All those trucks are now luxury vehicles (just like you said) that have so many unnecessary features that can break down. I just wanted a simple reliable dirt hauler that is OK to drive daily. I do go off (snow)-roading since I live in a very cold part of the US. This truck in my opinion is slightly more off-road worthy than the 2018 Tacoma TRD Off-Road model. Which is good enough for me.
    I was pleasantly surprised how well it drives. Inside is quite luxurious for the price. It has enough features (maybe a bit more than I wanted). Riding position is great and the shocks are excellent.
    Why spend more on something that is not much better? I looked for reliability, simplicity and good price. If I wanted a luxury car I would have bought a luxury SUV.
    Thanks, great review as usual.

  • @essel23fly
    @essel23fly 10 місяців тому +3

    I rented a Frontier a few months ago. It did have like 25k miles on it but it honestly drove like the chassis was held together by tape

    • @elonsus9747
      @elonsus9747 10 місяців тому

      It was that bad? I had a 22’ it was okay. Few squeaks and rattles here and there.

    • @essel23fly
      @essel23fly 10 місяців тому +1

      @@elonsus9747 25k miles for a rental are hard miles so it could have been that but the truck drove cheap. But maybe that’s what people want is a cheap midsize truck, at the end of the day it gets you there the same

  • @aale7777
    @aale7777 10 місяців тому +10

    It's a great truck reliable motor. Good looking on par with the looks of the new Tacoma not sure what's not to like .

  • @ornative7514
    @ornative7514 6 місяців тому +1

    This type of review, I expect, has the info & perspective that 80% of us appreciate. I don't need the nth degree of "perfection". What I do need is reliability, reasonable amenities & price. Most of the time it is best to go with the proven.
    Thanks guys for providing reviews aimed at the vast majority of us.

  • @blchandl2
    @blchandl2 10 місяців тому +1

    I just bought a 2023 Frontier SV King Cab a week ago sue to my 2013 Frontier SV King Cab being totaled. I bought my 2013 used with a 100K miles and it was the most reliable used vehicle I ever bought.
    I have recently been burnded by a turbo charger failure on my wife's car, so I am avoiding them like the plague.

  • @Torsee
    @Torsee 10 місяців тому +3

    Great review!
    Agreed with all points!
    Like the truck!

  • @zlliksddam
    @zlliksddam 10 місяців тому +23

    Best review team in the game. Love your work, captains of industry!

  • @j.redbeard99
    @j.redbeard99 10 місяців тому +1

    Good review as always, really liked the different outro music.

  • @cvav213
    @cvav213 10 місяців тому

    I bought a 2022 exactly like the one in this vid. I bought it because of all the reasons stated here. It's simple, easy to maintain, and it'll last for a long time. It's all the truck I need.

  • @hartsickdisciple
    @hartsickdisciple 10 місяців тому +4

    I like the Frontier's old-school approach. It's the last truck in the segment with an N/A V6, which is a big plus to me. The VQ V6 is about as tried and true a gas engine as there is in the industry. I think the midrange SV 4x4 makes the most sense, since you can get it for $35-40k. Why spend more than that on a midsize truck? You can get into a full size if you spend more. I have excellent credit, and would still choose this over the other options for the reasons stated above.

  • @colin-nekritz
    @colin-nekritz 10 місяців тому +18

    I’ve owned several small utilitarian trucks through the ages including the Dodge 50 (rebadged Mitsubishi), Isuzu PuP 4x4 (my fave of all of them), a Taco, and, well, let’s not talk about the Dakota. Anyways, knowing what I liked about small trucks (all not-so-small these days) this is the ONLY one I’d shop for in the US. Seriously. I don’t need a cream puff or a truck pretending to be a car, I want a small truck, that’s it, with buttons and knobs, proven and reliable. Nissan is the only manufacture in this segment now, which is such a sad statement.

    • @sebastianheine378
      @sebastianheine378 10 місяців тому +3

      Exactly. The equipment on this truck won’t get ruined on a job site by all the dust and crap that gets in the cabin

  • @HH-ez6qc
    @HH-ez6qc 10 місяців тому

    Always love these guys perspective

  • @Wootstapler
    @Wootstapler 10 місяців тому

    Thank you Mark and Jack

  • @MatthewJay80
    @MatthewJay80 10 місяців тому +6

    You the man Savage. I own 23’ Pro-4X, and don’t see this truck getting the credit it deserves.

  • @TheDagraner4576
    @TheDagraner4576 10 місяців тому +3

    I miss my old frontier. I hated it at the time, but these things keep calling me back.

  • @germanshepherdguy
    @germanshepherdguy 10 місяців тому +1

    In 2007 I bought a brand new Nissan Frontier. It was a very reliable truck. Last year I bought a brand new Nissan Frontier which appears to be exactly the same as the 2023 model. I LOVE IT, and hope it lasts me to the last of my days.

  • @alj.granda8252
    @alj.granda8252 9 місяців тому

    Excellent review! Thx!

  • @KTMcaptain
    @KTMcaptain 10 місяців тому +3

    What do you mean the last NA V6? Gladiator has a port injected NA V6, manual t case, and actual axles. It’s 5 notches up on the old school ladder.

  • @MrCamel2humps
    @MrCamel2humps 10 місяців тому +7

    The only thing I wish it had was port injection or at least duel injection like the Toyota’s have.

  • @Rick-xt2cz
    @Rick-xt2cz 10 місяців тому +1

    Good or Bad; this is the kind of vehicle that the next 2 or 3 generations of new drivers are gonna need if roads and other infrastructures crumble like the direction of our economy and bank accounts........financial advisors and economists should pay attention to this particular episode because you gentlemen are ahead of the curve......pun intended !

  • @dougpendleton1266
    @dougpendleton1266 10 місяців тому +2

    Nice job guys!

  • @pianoplayer2516
    @pianoplayer2516 10 місяців тому +7

    I personally love it. Would definitely buy it over the new gen Tacoma. Those V6s engines sounds great.

  • @mmr0221
    @mmr0221 10 місяців тому +3

    Great truck

  • @jamesevans9209
    @jamesevans9209 10 місяців тому +1

    I just recently traded into the base model, a red alert S 4x4 around February, and got it for just around 30,000. With the car market as it was/is I never would have thought I would have been able to get into a 4x4 vehicle yet. My Nissan dealer had no markups on it, and I have been very happy with it. I fell in love with it for it's no-nonsense mindset and capabilities. I do have minor complaints such as the cruise control, but no regrets.

  • @dixonbuttes6564
    @dixonbuttes6564 10 місяців тому +1

    Putting the vehicle up on a lift and looking at the underside makes this one of the most unique and useful channels about cars on UA-cam… keep that schtuff up!!!

  • @nickzarnetske9994
    @nickzarnetske9994 10 місяців тому +5

    The pendulum is going to swing and people are going to grow tired of things breaking and the electronics and just want a reliable truck, and then these will really get there moment to shine. I just hope it isn't too late for them! Great review as always guys!

  • @wesleyhamer152
    @wesleyhamer152 10 місяців тому +33

    I'm strongly considering this vehicle as my new truck. Turbos and four cylinders have me concerned. I want reliability and longevity.

    • @66rollincoal
      @66rollincoal 10 місяців тому +7

      It is direct injected so you will have to deal with carbon at some point, that's really the only failure point that comes to mind though.

    • @DirtyScab
      @DirtyScab 10 місяців тому +7

      @@66rollincoal Carbon buildup isn't really a failure point, just a maintenance concern in the long term. If you need to walnut blast it once every 100k miles that's not a super huge deal. That being said, since it's a newer design direct injection engine (and a truck is more likely to be under load and blow carbon deposits out before they build up) it should ideally be of minimal concern.
      What gets me is that the old 4.0L was a bulletproof engine (after the SMOD issue was fixed for automatic transmissions). Made the same amount of torque (at lower RPM even), and the extra 50 horsepower in the 3.8L is made at ~1,000RPM higher (6400RPM), so you're not really getting any more usable power unless you're banging it off the rev limiter constantly, and the very meager increase in 0-60 time quantifies that pretty well. A whole new engine design for a negligible power bump and a whopping 1 MPG more than the 4.0L got with 4x4 and the 6-speed? Just adding the 9-speed probably accounts for that 1 MPG bump. The new engine only exists for reduced emissions, so at that point if you're going to trash a fantastic engine may as well go to a turbo 4 or small turbo 6 and get a boatload of torque and give some benefit to the end-user.

    • @St.Irenaeus
      @St.Irenaeus 10 місяців тому +1

      Do it man. I got a 2023 Frontier non pro 4x but 4x4 and I’m in love. Amazing pickup. Perfect blend of tech and utility. Rock solid and reliable.

  • @alexross4062
    @alexross4062 10 місяців тому +1

    I often find myself really enjoying driving my lifted first gen Sequoia. I've driven Raptors, I have an LS460 as my daily driver, I used to have an Audi A6, but there's a charm to the Sequoia (and the Tundras I cross-shopped for) that I really enjoy. They're simple machines- I know every day that I can count on my Toyota. It's cheap to insure, okay on gas, costs me nothing to maintain, it's just. easy.
    It has cruise control, heated power seats, and an aftermarket radio. I don't need radar cruise control, lane keep assist, a billion cameras, or a 400hp 2 liter hybrid with an expected lifetime measured in 5 figure mileages. I'd seriously consider the frontier for the price. Something with a V6, brand new, in mid 30s to 40s? What a steal.

  • @waterdog226
    @waterdog226 9 місяців тому

    A family member just bought one. I drove it. I love it! They had a Frontier, 2005 (I think), they sold to s friend who coveted their original 4 wheel dive option truck.
    The old truck was used by the entire family when they needed a truck to get mulch, haul stuff . The new owner of the old truck is a tradesman, a carpenter.
    The new 3023 pro 4x will be used by the entire family for the same purposes: camping, gardening supplies, and getting stuff to the sailboat project. It is a truck! With great features and comfortable seating up front. I drove yesterday and picked up a friend. We went out yo lunch. We were two old ladies and we had no problem getting in or out. The controls were easy to use and the screen with the info was great. The old truck had power windows and heated seats. Rust in a few places. The new truck is modern and the camera system blew me away. Glad someone in the family bought it! And help from the owner in the back seat was not needed.