💪💯I absolutely agree. I love 357 sig. I just picked up another, so we will have a bunch of tests coming in all barrel lengths. Thanks as always my friend, I appreciate ya!!
Thanks to Underwood the 357 Sig is now the most powerful SD caliber on the market at 1500+ fps for a 125gr bullet. More velocity than even Underwood's own 125gr Magnum round!
@@justusbryant7366not anymore all modern 10mm is watered down and if you look at channels like tools&target you will see alot of 40s&w has beaten 10mm in FPS even when compared to same grain same ammo maker
@@kennethferguson4283 there is 125 grain 40s&w that is doing 1321 FPS out of a 4" barrel and 1502 in a 5" barrel there is even a crazy company nov-x that made a 88 grain 40s&w plus P pushing 1,700+ or like a company called SinterFire that also made a 40s&w 125 grain with 1,350fps in 3.5" barrel and 1,578fps in 5" barrel
Very hard for any conventional round to compete with a bottleneck high pressure round...the 357sig ONCE again dumping more kinetic energy into a target more than the 40sw...great tests AZ!!!! 👍
Great video to prove the "bigger is always better" crowd wrong. Bigger rounds may provide larger direct tissue-crushing holes, but as you can clearly see in this video .... the 357 Sig round had a notably smaller expansion diameter for direct tissue-crushing... yet the cavitation was notably greater.🔥
I already knew that the .40 S&W was a hard hitter with a gruesome wound cavity, but that .357 Sig is scary impressive. Faster, greater wound cavity and deeper penetration. If it weren't for the cost/availability issues with the .357 Sig {in some cases, twice the price} I would carry it as my edc, but you have to be able to afford to practice with the handgun you carry. For now, I will stick with my Glock 23.
.357 sig is my EDC go to, but that .40 looked very good. That 155 really had beautiful expansion, as HST usually do. .357 sig is just amazing. Double Tap has a solid copper hollow point in .357 sig that's 115gr. rated at 1500 fps. Would love to see that one put through your testing protocol. As always thanks for the test, and have a wonderful day.
Yeah the latest Gen copper JHP at 1500 f/second would be the best. I bet after that nobody will look at ballistic gel studies on UA-cam. Even a hot 40 cal 125 grains 1350 f/second out of a 4 inch compact pistol would be interesting. Or a cheap second hand G22 for 200 bucks with suppressor tread barell (5 inch).
@@DonDeMarcoKarlsruheI have a glock 35 in .40 with a .357 sig conversion barrel 5.3 inch. The rounds out of this thing are smoken fast. Thanks for the response.
Thank you!! Next time I put in a order I'll make sure to pick some up. Should be a fun one. Thanks as always my friend and u have a great day as well!!
I have both. I actually bought a Glock 33 in 2012 and Glock 31 in 2016. Couple years ago, I bought .40 S&W barrels for both. Ammo is easier to find and easier on the wallet.
Prison CO supervisor 22 yrs tdcj. Every offender that survived gunshot from rival gangs to police. Said the 45 caliber was the worst damage of all and felt the most. Most had shattered bones and muscle damage not repairable. When shot by a 45 they were done. 9mm they had to shoot several times to bring them down on most occasions.
2 very impressive rounds indeed. I own a Glock 22 and I do really like the .40 S&W. Of course I would love to get a handgun chambered in .357 Sig but the price and availability of the ammo is what is stopping me right now. I hope that .357 Sig would start gaining popularity because it seems to be a very capable round. Maybe it will end up like 10mm and gain a following and make a big comeback.
They make conversion barrels for the G22 in .357 Sig. I have one. The ammo is harder to find in my area, though, so I generally keep the .40 cal barrel in it.
Another great, practical comparison video between two top carry rounds! Great to see the different barrels, especially the short barrel tests! 😀 We get to see the results and yet it doesn't cost a penny for such valuable resources of information! It takes alot of time , work , and effort to do what your doing, and I very much appreciate it!
Thank you buddy!! Always appreciate ya!! Had to take a lil break, weather's been bad lately, but I'll have some new tests/content by the end of the week😁. Thank you again!!
357 Sig is harder to find, it's more expensive, and a 9mm projectile in a 40 case will give you those results, especially out of subcompact guns. But the USSS armorers describe it as a gun eater. P229 with more than 10k rounds weren't warrantied by Sig.
Nice test lukewarm SiG. How about doing a 357S 125gr JHP vs 9mm +P+ 90gr XD in G33 length barrels. I bet it’s dead even. I’m saying the XD boosts the terminal performance of the 9 equal to the original SIG design parameters. Having said that a full size frame (over 4”) loaded with 357S/XD produces next level 10mm/JHP tissue disruption.
Es una suerte que uds en USA consiguen cañones de calidad para usar con una misma pistola. Tengo 23/27 desde hace muchos años. Si Magtech hubiera fabricado .357 SIG tendría una pistola en .357. Pero aca en argentina entra poca munición, poca variedad y cara la .357. MAGTECH hizo 10 m.m. y fué un éxito las ventas de las Glock 20. Así ayuda a una Región cuando una empresa del prestigio y la excelente calidad de Magtech hace tal, o cual calibre. Disparo a veces con la Glock 31 prestada y me parece un sablazo cosaco ese formidable calibre...✌️
Simple to say all the 9 mm ballistic testing technology has trickled to most all the rounds. the 40 penetrates perfectly slightly better than the sig., larger diameter too. Advantage 40.
Sure, but it's odd to think a block of gelatin with the equivalent of 4 denim jackets draped over it has become accepted as a human analogue. 12 gauge birdshot point blank that penetrates 10 inches? Inadequate for self defense! .22lr that penetrates 12 inches? Ideally suited for self defense...
The .357Sig uses 9mm bullets which are designed to expand at lower velocities out of a 9x19NATO so when you run it out at a couple hundred FPS fasted you are going to get somewhat larger expansion from the .357. Likewise the .40 is losing its popularity and the R&D is not going into it so you won't get the newest cutting edge bullet designs in .40 while the newest 9mm bullets can be put into the .357Sig so it will improve as time goes on but the .40 will trail behind to some extent
Wrong on both counts. The 357 Sig doesn't use bullets made for 9x19, you just made that up. They are the same caliber, but not the same construction (in order to avoid the problem that you mentioned). On the count of .40 S&W losing popularity, this is true, but not nearly to the same degree as 357 Sig. Stores just aren't moving enough 357 Sig ammo. As a result, they don't stock it, and if they do, it's more expensive than .40 S&W which only requires a barrel change.
I picked up a mid 90s sig p229 in 40 because in a firm believer in the 40. Ive been reading a fair bit that you can switch to the 357sig round with a barrel swap. Going to send the pistol in to sig to give it a good look over and replace anything needs replaced and possibly refinish the pistol to make it look new. Really tempted on being able to switch so easily
Federal HST's never disappoint. Too bad the 357 Sig never caught on. All of your testing demonstrates the effectiveness of the cartridge. But due to its expense and limited loads, I'll stay with 40 S&W. It has lower kinetic energy but more momentum. When steel plates are shot, momentum becomes apparent.
Bro I'll PayPal you to send me rest of those Forty I mentioned them in My Cops Should go back to .40 vid coming out this Saturday...I'm serious woukd you? Also yiu should prob post HST and grains in the title
I just don't understand why the 357.sig is not more popular all you can find them in now is glock and I heard glock is going to stop making them not sure if thats true or not.
You can convert the barrel on an MP or Shield for 357sig. Still a bunch of P229/P320C in 357sig floating around too. I don’t think the G32/33 are going anywhere any time soon, they seem to be fairly popular.
When. A round fours through a block of gel. Does that mean its still lethal for the people Behind the bad guy. I don’t wanna stop a robbery and end up killing a grandma who was wrong place wrong time.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, .357SIG is the most impressive SD round on the market. Great work, Az.
💪💯I absolutely agree. I love 357 sig. I just picked up another, so we will have a bunch of tests coming in all barrel lengths. Thanks as always my friend, I appreciate ya!!
10mm is
Thanks to Underwood the 357 Sig is now the most powerful SD caliber on the market at 1500+ fps for a 125gr bullet. More velocity than even Underwood's own 125gr Magnum round!
@@justusbryant7366not anymore all modern 10mm is watered down and if you look at channels like tools&target you will see alot of 40s&w has beaten 10mm in FPS even when compared to same grain same ammo maker
@@kennethferguson4283 there is 125 grain 40s&w that is doing 1321 FPS out of a 4" barrel and 1502 in a 5" barrel there is even a crazy company nov-x that made a 88 grain 40s&w plus P pushing 1,700+ or like a company called SinterFire that also made a 40s&w 125 grain with 1,350fps in 3.5" barrel and 1,578fps in 5" barrel
Very hard for any conventional round to compete with a bottleneck high pressure round...the 357sig ONCE again dumping more kinetic energy into a target more than the 40sw...great tests AZ!!!! 👍
💪💯. Thank you buddy, I appreciate ya!! We have some good ones coming😁
Great video to prove the "bigger is always better" crowd wrong. Bigger rounds may provide larger direct tissue-crushing holes, but as you can clearly see in this video .... the 357 Sig round had a notably smaller expansion diameter for direct tissue-crushing... yet the cavitation was notably greater.🔥
The .357 Sig is ballistically identical to the old .38 Super. The big attraction is having interchangeable barrels with .40 pistols.
I already knew that the .40 S&W was a hard hitter with a gruesome wound cavity, but that .357 Sig is scary impressive. Faster, greater wound cavity and deeper penetration. If it weren't for the cost/availability issues with the .357 Sig {in some cases, twice the price} I would carry it as my edc, but you have to be able to afford to practice with the handgun you carry. For now, I will stick with my Glock 23.
Exactly it’s a great round but too expensive I prefer it and .40 over 9mm n .45 tho
.357 sig is my EDC go to, but that .40 looked very good. That 155 really had beautiful expansion, as HST usually do. .357 sig is just amazing. Double Tap has a solid copper hollow point in .357 sig that's 115gr. rated at 1500 fps. Would love to see that one put through your testing protocol. As always thanks for the test, and have a wonderful day.
Yeah the latest Gen copper JHP at 1500 f/second would be the best. I bet after that nobody will look at ballistic gel studies on UA-cam. Even a hot 40 cal 125 grains 1350 f/second out of a 4 inch compact pistol would be interesting. Or a cheap second hand G22 for 200 bucks with suppressor tread barell (5 inch).
@@DonDeMarcoKarlsruheI have a glock 35 in .40 with a .357 sig conversion barrel 5.3 inch. The rounds out of this thing are smoken fast. Thanks for the response.
@@joejones1779 Wow that’s 600- 650 lbs easy. For lazy guys who don’t like double taps…
@@DonDeMarcoKarlsruheMy buddy did the math and it came out to 677 foot pounds. Not to shabby. And I'm one of the lazy dudes now that I retired. LOL.
Thank you!! Next time I put in a order I'll make sure to pick some up. Should be a fun one. Thanks as always my friend and u have a great day as well!!
would be nice if the 40 was actually loaded to get the advertised velocity. the extra 115fps makes a difference. but the sig is always impressive
I have both. I actually bought a Glock 33 in 2012 and Glock 31 in 2016. Couple years ago, I bought .40 S&W barrels for both. Ammo is easier to find and easier on the wallet.
Recently switched from 40 to 357 sig a lot people don’t know what it is I’m happy
Prison CO supervisor 22 yrs tdcj. Every offender that survived gunshot from rival gangs to police. Said the 45 caliber was the worst damage of all and felt the most. Most had shattered bones and muscle damage not repairable. When shot by a 45 they were done. 9mm they had to shoot several times to bring them down on most occasions.
2 very impressive rounds indeed. I own a Glock 22 and I do really like the .40 S&W. Of course I would love to get a handgun chambered in .357 Sig but the price and availability of the ammo is what is stopping me right now. I hope that .357 Sig would start gaining popularity because it seems to be a very capable round. Maybe it will end up like 10mm and gain a following and make a big comeback.
They make conversion barrels for the G22 in .357 Sig. I have one. The ammo is harder to find in my area, though, so I generally keep the .40 cal barrel in it.
Another excellent test with great results. 40 for the expansion win but energy, damage & penetration
Thank you my friend, I appreciate ya!!
Another great, practical comparison video between two top carry rounds! Great to see the different barrels, especially the short barrel tests! 😀 We get to see the results and yet it doesn't cost a penny for such valuable resources of information! It takes alot of time , work , and effort to do what your doing, and I very much appreciate it!
Thank you buddy!! Always appreciate ya!! Had to take a lil break, weather's been bad lately, but I'll have some new tests/content by the end of the week😁. Thank you again!!
Love the 357 SIG
Awesome test, serious velocity for a short barrel 357 Sig and serious results.
All things .357SIG #hardesthitting
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Instant sub. Thanks for doing good tests and using REAL ballistics gel instead of the clear synth crap.
Thank you very much, I appreciate the support and appreciate u checkin out the channel!!
Thanks for the short barrels!
Excellent performance from both rounds, quality stuff. 👍
Thank you for another great video.👍🏽
Thank you buddy, as always I appreciate u checkin it out!!
357 Sig is harder to find, it's more expensive, and a 9mm projectile in a 40 case will give you those results, especially out of subcompact guns. But the USSS armorers describe it as a gun eater. P229 with more than 10k rounds weren't warrantied by Sig.
357S is my favorite carry round BY FAR. I enjoy shooting all of em, but 357Sig is just different.
best testing channel on YT at this point
Thank you sir!! As always I very much appreciate the support!! 💪💯
Very complete, very interesting and nice pictures. 2 sizes comparaisons relevants. Hi from France!
.357 Sig is my EDC.
I don’t wanna be shot with either! That sig is bad but that 40 looks mean too!
Nice test lukewarm SiG. How about doing a 357S 125gr JHP vs 9mm +P+ 90gr XD in G33 length barrels. I bet it’s dead even. I’m saying the XD boosts the terminal performance of the 9 equal to the original SIG design parameters. Having said that a full size frame (over 4”) loaded with 357S/XD produces next level 10mm/JHP tissue disruption.
Wish you would've the same gun for both ammos an just dropped a 357 sig barrel in the Glock 27
That FDE frame looks awesome. Where you get one like that?
Modern loading of a .38 super is similar to the sig . 10 auto and 400 corbon are very similar .
そして多くの場合にネックダウンした弾は、基になった弾薬よりも優れる様ですね。
357SIG＞40S&W，400corbon＞45ACP，440DE＞50AE
Es una suerte que uds en USA consiguen cañones de calidad para usar con una misma pistola.
Tengo 23/27 desde hace muchos años.
Si Magtech hubiera fabricado .357 SIG tendría una pistola en .357.
Pero aca en argentina entra poca munición, poca variedad y cara la .357.
MAGTECH hizo 10 m.m. y fué un éxito las ventas de las Glock 20. Así ayuda a una Región cuando una empresa del prestigio y la excelente calidad de Magtech hace tal, o cual calibre.
Disparo a veces con la Glock 31 prestada y me parece un sablazo cosaco ese formidable calibre...✌️
Simple to say all the 9 mm ballistic testing technology has trickled to most all the rounds. the 40 penetrates perfectly slightly better than the sig.,
larger diameter too. Advantage 40.
Sure, but it's odd to think a block of gelatin with the equivalent of 4 denim jackets draped over it has become accepted as a human analogue.
12 gauge birdshot point blank that penetrates 10 inches? Inadequate for self defense!
.22lr that penetrates 12 inches? Ideally suited for self defense...
@@harrypeterson928740 have stopping power sig don't
The .357Sig uses 9mm bullets which are designed to expand at lower velocities out of a 9x19NATO so when you run it out at a couple hundred FPS fasted you are going to get somewhat larger expansion from the .357. Likewise the .40 is losing its popularity and the R&D is not going into it so you won't get the newest cutting edge bullet designs in .40 while the newest 9mm bullets can be put into the .357Sig so it will improve as time goes on but the .40 will trail behind to some extent
Wrong on both counts. The 357 Sig doesn't use bullets made for 9x19, you just made that up. They are the same caliber, but not the same construction (in order to avoid the problem that you mentioned).
On the count of .40 S&W losing popularity, this is true, but not nearly to the same degree as 357 Sig. Stores just aren't moving enough 357 Sig ammo. As a result, they don't stock it, and if they do, it's more expensive than .40 S&W which only requires a barrel change.
357sig is my favorite round. All of the local stores know me on a first name basis they all know I like 357sig. They all stock 357sig ammo
@@norrisdillahuntjr4570 cool
I picked up a mid 90s sig p229 in 40 because in a firm believer in the 40. Ive been reading a fair bit that you can switch to the 357sig round with a barrel swap. Going to send the pistol in to sig to give it a good look over and replace anything needs replaced and possibly refinish the pistol to make it look new. Really tempted on being able to switch so easily
Federal HST's never disappoint. Too bad the 357 Sig never caught on. All of your testing demonstrates the effectiveness of the cartridge. But due to its expense and limited loads, I'll stay with 40 S&W. It has lower kinetic energy but more momentum. When steel plates are shot, momentum becomes apparent.
soft tissue isn't steel
review "A Method for Testing Handgun Bullets in Deer"....energy matters
@@bobjones-bt9bh Better to have something you can readily access.
Love em both ....Gen 5 Glock 23 is a sweet shooter
Bro I'll PayPal you to send me rest of those Forty I mentioned them in My Cops Should go back to .40 vid coming out this Saturday...I'm serious woukd you? Also yiu should prob post HST and grains in the title
My email is in the description, u can contact me anytime, we can talk about it.
This test is very relevant since the .40 is the new .45.
.357 is nothing but a .40 S&W shell casing with a 9mm bullet have the best of everything .. Power - Speed - Accuracy
wrong. it's a 10mm case (not .40 S&W) shortened and necked down.
Anyone know where the cheapest 357 sig is online?
Un 357 sig we trust 🤞🏻 Glock 32
I just don't understand why the 357.sig is not more popular all you can find them in now is glock and I heard glock is going to stop making them not sure if thats true or not.
You can convert the barrel on an MP or Shield for 357sig. Still a bunch of P229/P320C in 357sig floating around too.
I don’t think the G32/33 are going anywhere any time soon, they seem to be fairly popular.
Ammo link
Oh Yeah!
When. A round fours through a block of gel. Does that mean its still lethal for the people
Behind the bad guy.
I don’t wanna stop a robbery and end up killing a grandma who was wrong place wrong time.
Both might hurt just little. Buff right out. lol
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Good ass aim tho
I have @g32 and it was impressive 😮😊😅