My Eagle XX1 AXS derailleur went all floppy just before the 2 year warranty period was up. With the help of my local bike shop SRAM replaced it FOC after around a month. Otherwise, I would think that pins from another SRAM (cheaper non AXS) derailleur would probably fit but luckily it didn't come to that. For information, my floppy AXS had done around 10,000 miles (16,000 km) in all conditions including sloppy UK mud.
@@alloutbikes this is the only video in the world that has someone actually removing the pins. Can you please tell me exactly what tool you used to removed this pin? I’m very glad I found your video. Now all I need to do is wait for your reply. Thanks in advance!
There are many ways the derailleur can develop play. This one was due to worn pins. But I guess you could get play from the gears. Thanks for sharing.👍
Thank you. If I could have removed the lever from the body of the derailleur I could have taken it apart with less carnage and could have seen the position of the parts.
@@alloutbikes indeed im looking for the same tool, look like you need to remove the pin that hold the lever, but i dont know how yet, already broke one red axs in name of science too, but no luck so far.
Do you remember what torx sizes? On my sram red etap it has a bolt or screw I think should be a bit tighter as not as flush as the other, it just one that near jockey side and closest to where cage attaches seems 1-2mm proud of the other near it
I'm sorry. I didn't compare the sizes. I will have to get another derailleur for comparison. Sorry for not being able to answer your question. I will find out👍
Question for you: I have a sram force wireless deraillur on a scott addict 2021..I dont have many miles on it and it is rarely in the rain..What should I be degreasing and lubing (without taking it apart)? And same question concerning the shifters..Any help would be appreciated..
Nice Vid, I assume you cant get the pins from SRAM? I have a red RD that one of the pins came out of after 40,000km, I was hoping to find one to revitalise it! I have already bought a replacement though
A company from the Netherlands called Leap Components sells bushing replacement kits on their website. Although currently only marketed as a kit for the eagle axs mtb derailleurs, but it would probably be stupid of SRAM to make two types of pins and bushings. They also have a yt channel. I think you can get your derailleur sorted out with their parts
I'm sorry. After the video someone called the shop and wanted to buy the parts. His derailleur did the same thing. I sold what was left to him for $20. When I get another one I will do a video one the measurements. Thanks for asking and sorry I can't help.👍
How many miles would a front or rear electronic derailleur last before needing to be replaced? What parts can be replaced if they fail ? This is my main concern with electronic because they are expensive
No. All I needed was a replacement pin but Sram doesn't sell new pins. I will be saving all bad E derailleurs in the future to rob parts off them. I found that some of the pins are interchangeable. Goodluck👍
No. Sram doesn't supply parts but there are a couple of aftermarket suppliers of parts. Just Google Sram axs rebuild kit and you will find your parts. Goodluck.👍
I have a pin backjng out on my rear mech tht does not have a retainig clip that i can see. Has anyone else had this lne back out and if so is the solution to buy a new pin like in the other 2 pivot locations? Thanks in advance. This video was very informative amd helpful.
Performance wise......Yes! I like both. For my everyday bike it is amazing. The bad thing about electric shifting is keeping the battery charged up. If you don't keep the battery charged you ruin the battery. I have to charge mine up about once a month.
@@alloutbikes hey dude, thank you for interesting video, I would not be brave enough to put it in water for a week, but before disassemble it, first I would try it out with battery on it. My problem is different, my rear derailleur drains battery in one day. I have two batteries and I switch them between front and rear derailleur, and doesn't matter which battery I use, rear derailleur drains it. Any hints/advices are welcome!
Don't reproduce this opening methodology. If you do like that, you will broke the circuit board at least. What you need to do to access the gearings on road RD Force or RED is to remove the arm on the opposite side, then once the arm is disassembled from the gear you'll get access to the whole electronics, motor and gears without applying any strength all parts should come easy.
The derailleur wasn't any good so I wasn't worried about saving it. I do appreciate the heads-up it won't be often needed since Sram just wants you to buy a new derailleur instead of repairing it. Thanks for watching.👍
No bearings or sleeve bushings and using low grade materials... Junk! Planned Obsolescence designed in. 40yr old Shimano and Campy mechs work like clockwork and still can get parts.
I fully agree about the quality and service ability of the old style Campa and Shimano stuff, my Sram Force AXS RD failed after 5000 km related to the mentioned pin, warranty applies but takes a while.
My rear red axs, suddenly is select 1 gear up according the select speed on shifters . I have 5 on the shifters, the derailleur is on 4 cog. Dosnt go at 12. Is something broken? Out of the bike is moving by hand without any resistance from low to higher gear with a little push. Is 4 months old
@alloutbikes I just fixed it at home. The long part of the big spring for some reason moved from the position that sits(on a small arm that move the derailleur)and prevents the movement of the derailleur towards up. All these happened when I reinstall the rear wheel, probably I pushed a lot the derailleur with the cassette. Very strange. At least now is working and I will not spend 500-600£!! I only lost my training, my evening and 5 years of my life!!
This content will remain relevant as long as SRAM AXS technology continues to exist. 👍
My Eagle XX1 AXS derailleur went all floppy just before the 2 year warranty period was up. With the help of my local bike shop SRAM replaced it FOC after around a month. Otherwise, I would think that pins from another SRAM (cheaper non AXS) derailleur would probably fit but luckily it didn't come to that. For information, my floppy AXS had done around 10,000 miles (16,000 km) in all conditions including sloppy UK mud.
Thanks for sharing. This derailleur supposedly had about the same or more. Maybe we found the life of those derailleur.👍
Great video as always 👍🏻
Thank you.
@@alloutbikes this is the only video in the world that has someone actually removing the pins. Can you please tell me exactly what tool you used to removed this pin? I’m very glad I found your video. Now all I need to do is wait for your reply. Thanks in advance!
Just inspected mine. I have a little play in the system. The parallelogram pins are ok, the play comes from gear system.
There are many ways the derailleur can develop play. This one was due to worn pins. But I guess you could get play from the gears. Thanks for sharing.👍
Magnet is for Hall effect sensor that locates the motor position.
Thank you. If I could have removed the lever from the body of the derailleur I could have taken it apart with less carnage and could have seen the position of the parts.
@@alloutbikes indeed im looking for the same tool, look like you need to remove the pin that hold the lever, but i dont know how yet, already broke one red axs in name of science too, but no luck so far.
What exact size are the Torx screws for the mechanic housing please?
Do you remember what torx sizes? On my sram red etap it has a bolt or screw I think should be a bit tighter as not as flush as the other, it just one that near jockey side and closest to where cage attaches seems 1-2mm proud of the other near it
Hi, great video. Quick question: Is pin same size than the one you can find on a mechanical derailleur like an sram eagle x01?
I'm sorry. I didn't compare the sizes. I will have to get another derailleur for comparison. Sorry for not being able to answer your question. I will find out👍
Question for you: I have a sram force wireless deraillur on a scott addict 2021..I dont have many miles on it and it is rarely in the rain..What should I be degreasing and lubing (without taking it apart)? And same question concerning the shifters..Any help would be appreciated..
It would have been good to see more details of the parts and how it works electromechanically.
It’s all mostly junk cheap stuff . Like an RC servo there’s good and cheap , all sram Mac’s are made with cheap materials.
Nice Vid, I assume you cant get the pins from SRAM? I have a red RD that one of the pins came out of after 40,000km, I was hoping to find one to revitalise it! I have already bought a replacement though
I called Sram and they don't have them. I'm going to start to save the derailleurs for parts.
A company from the Netherlands called Leap Components sells bushing replacement kits on their website. Although currently only marketed as a kit for the eagle axs mtb derailleurs, but it would probably be stupid of SRAM to make two types of pins and bushings. They also have a yt channel. I think you can get your derailleur sorted out with their parts
holy cow you look identical to another guy I watch named Ike from Cars and Cameras, you all have to be related, he is also a very skilled mechanic.
I don't think he looks anything like me. He is my brother though.👍
I was thinking the exact same thing. I’m glad somebody else posted the comment.
Thank you for taking on this task. Since Sram doesn't offer new pins, do you maybe know the dimensions of the pins (especially the worn-out one)?
I'm sorry. After the video someone called the shop and wanted to buy the parts. His derailleur did the same thing. I sold what was left to him for $20. When I get another one I will do a video one the measurements. Thanks for asking and sorry I can't help.👍
@@alloutbikes No worries mate, I already really appreciate you making this video so I actually know what to replace. Keep up the good work!
Dear All Out Bikes, have you talked to SRAM support about the problem and have they provided new pin. And did it solve the problem?
Yes, I talked to Sram. No, they did not have replacement pins. He had to buy a new derailleur. Thanks for asking👍
How many miles would a front or rear electronic derailleur last before needing to be replaced? What parts can be replaced if they fail ? This is my main concern with electronic because they are expensive
This derailleur had over 20,000 miles on it. The customer also didn't maintain it.
Hello One question, did you manage to solve this problem? I have the same problem and I don't know what to do?
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No. All I needed was a replacement pin but Sram doesn't sell new pins. I will be saving all bad E derailleurs in the future to rob parts off them. I found that some of the pins are interchangeable. Goodluck👍
Its happened to my force axs RD i need a new pin, do sram supply them ? Thanks
No. Sram doesn't supply parts but there are a couple of aftermarket suppliers of parts. Just Google Sram axs rebuild kit and you will find your parts. Goodluck.👍
An explanation of how the electric motor & gear train works would've been nice ???
Thank you. I will see if I can make a different video.👍
I have a pin backjng out on my rear mech tht does not have a retainig clip that i can see. Has anyone else had this lne back out and if so is the solution to buy a new pin like in the other 2 pivot locations? Thanks in advance. This video was very informative amd helpful.
I haven't seen that happen before. Hopefully you can find a replacement retaining clip. Goodluck 👍
How can they make a derailleur with such a basic problem !?
For the time, it gives the bushings from hopp Carbon to fix this problem. 🤙🏻
Are the electronic derailers better than a standard derailer?
Performance wise......Yes! I like both. For my everyday bike it is amazing. The bad thing about electric shifting is keeping the battery charged up. If you don't keep the battery charged you ruin the battery. I have to charge mine up about once a month.
@@alloutbikes OK thank you! I wondered which would be better
@@alloutbikes hey dude, thank you for interesting video, I would not be brave enough to put it in water for a week, but before disassemble it, first I would try it out with battery on it. My problem is different, my rear derailleur drains battery in one day. I have two batteries and I switch them between front and rear derailleur, and doesn't matter which battery I use, rear derailleur drains it. Any hints/advices are welcome!
@@Service4Mercedes if it's less than 2 years old, claim on the warranty
Don't reproduce this opening methodology. If you do like that, you will broke the circuit board at least. What you need to do to access the gearings on road RD Force or RED is to remove the arm on the opposite side, then once the arm is disassembled from the gear you'll get access to the whole electronics, motor and gears without applying any strength all parts should come easy.
The derailleur wasn't any good so I wasn't worried about saving it. I do appreciate the heads-up it won't be often needed since Sram just wants you to buy a new derailleur instead of repairing it. Thanks for watching.👍
@@alloutbikesdo you have a teardown guide. If I am out of warranty (hoping to get a grace period) I need to replace a pogo pin
Hello
Greetings.👍
Adverts are killing your video
Sorry. I will see what I can do to cut those down. Thanks for letting me know.👍
No bearings or sleeve bushings and using low grade materials... Junk! Planned Obsolescence designed in. 40yr old Shimano and Campy mechs work like clockwork and still can get parts.
I fully agree about the quality and service ability of the old style Campa and Shimano stuff, my Sram Force AXS RD failed after 5000 km related to the mentioned pin, warranty applies but takes a while.
Need open fd... because only green blinking not shift.
They don't supply parts. You're better off getting a new derailleur. So it's not like it's going to hurt to open it up.
My rear red axs, suddenly is select 1 gear up according the select speed on shifters . I have 5 on the shifters, the derailleur is on 4 cog. Dosnt go at 12. Is something broken? Out of the bike is moving by hand without any resistance from low to higher gear with a little push. Is 4 months old
It sounds like the derailleur hanger may have been bumped. Take your bike to a shop you trust and have them check the hanger. Goodluck.👍
@alloutbikes I just fixed it at home. The long part of the big spring for some reason moved from the position that sits(on a small arm that move the derailleur)and prevents the movement of the derailleur towards up. All these happened when I reinstall the rear wheel, probably I pushed a lot the derailleur with the cassette. Very strange. At least now is working and I will not spend 500-600£!! I only lost my training, my evening and 5 years of my life!!
@@christosballis2032 That's a first! I never heard that happen. I'm glad you figured it out.👍