@@robertogarcia7873 She probably could have been and would have been Olympic champion in Tokyo if not for her eponymous leap (and the Gogean). C elements would have been the better option, in hindsight; but I'm thrilled for her silver.
While I recognize and appreciate what a great gymnast Cheng Fei is, and I know I'm totally biased because Anna is one of my favorite gymnasts of all time ..... But I really wish she won a medal here
@@poshboI do wish she’d gotten more medals- especially in AA. Bars was always her Achilles heel it seemed. That event is either something you’re extremely comfortable at… or just hoping to get completed. I had a friend who did gymnastics and bars always scared her.
Rusia tiene amplia trayectoria en esta disciplina deportiva, es una maestra, es pionera, es de èlite mundial. Basta mencionar a Jelena Mukhina...! Un icono..!
Russia (Soviet Union before that) has a long history of cheating. First, the Soviets having control of the judges for so long, second the Russians and their love of performance enhancing substances. Teachers? Not hardly- unless you’re referring to how to be smug, self righteous and haughty poor sports.
I love this routine , Anna was the last gymnast with that specific classic Russian style 🏽👏🏽and she was robbed in her last olympics👎🏽+ those commentators who won't shut up , they didn't deserved see her performs in front of them.
She was most certainly not robbed. She had JUST ENOUGH start value to contend for bronze- until she missed her third element in that first series. That took start value away and had deductions, coupled with other bobbles costing her a medal. It may seem unfair, but the ones who robbed her were her coaches for not putting together routines that were more competitive.
Pavlova was robbed of a medal....she wobbled waaaay less than Cheng Fei....Fei's routine was actually rather sloppy.....but she had the "home team advantage"...
No such thing as a home team advantage. Judges aren't allowed to judge gymnasts from the same country as them. No Chinese judges judged anyone on the Chinese team.
@@jgsh8062 That’s true but there can be bribes. For example, when Adelina Sotnikova (who was part of the home team) undeservingly won over Yuna Kim. Even though it’s another sport, Olympic judges can definitely be bribed, given that the athlete doesn’t mess up so badly they couldn’t possibly medal. If it were indeed true that the judges here were bribed, they could’ve taken the opportunity of Pavlova missing that one element to let Cheng Fei take the bronze.
Like si llegaste aquí por este artículo: Ejecutar el salto después de que el juez le dio la señal al gimnasta también puede llevar a una calificación de cero; esta deducción se ha ido reduciendo. Un ejemplo de esto sería el segundo salto de Anna Pavlova durante los Juegos Olímpicos de Verano del 2008, en la final de salto. y ni aun viendo el video entendiste.
Es porque ella ejecutó el salto y según eso no le dieron la señal de salida y los jueves no estaban listos para calificar su ejecución, a mi me encanta esta gimnasta me parece muy linda y elegante y súper buena
@mortella23 She doesn't give them the death stare. She's watching their routine. It's likely they aren't looking at her during their routine either. So gymnasts who don't pay attention to their competition have better sportsmanship?
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 no its just at some competitons after she's done she sees the other gymnast preforme and gives them the death stare the hole time! She had bad sportsmainship
@mortella23 What are you talking about!? What did she ever do!? Did she make fun of Tweddle's teeth like Nastia alledgedly did? She should be upset for being underscored!
I don't understand why wasn't connecting her front aerial, tucked side somersault, and Kolesnikova here like in Athens. In some of her beam routines in Beijing, it looked like she was attempting to but never connected all three.
I almost think it might have been a mental thing- second guessing herself and thus choosing not to. I could be wrong but it almost seems that way. A pity as it was a really cool series.
Your comment os breaking my heart :( i watch gymnastics since i was 4 years old. I dont remember Pavlova in London and i dont know what she thinks about her own work, but i wanna hug her and tell her that she had a lovely style.
Unfortunately she was essentially blackballed by the coaches for the errors she had in Beijing, and didn’t go to London. It’s unfortunate as she was a great gymnast who just had a rough go- much like Alicia Sacramone.
Sadly she would have been for real were it not for the completely missed element right off the bat. Lowered start score and an execution deduction to boot were tough to overcome.
@@nathan10120 that wasn’t necessary- and she DID win an individual medal- a bronze on vault in 2004. In the AA she had no chance because of bars- and I suspect she probably knew it. Bars isn’t everyone’s strength, anymore than beam or vault. This beam routine did have medal potential- if she’d gotten that one missed element. You sound like someone with an inferiority complex who needs to bash others to try to make yourself feel better- nice failure.
i find it extremely irritating how nbc nit picks the turns, for any country other than the states. but nastia, in almost every beam routine, does the same little "balance check" that she did here, but they never say a word about it. but, to me, it looks just as bad as any other balance check.
i really think that she should have had the bronze despite the first error cheng fei had a huge error at the begining with her full twisting tuck back and also nastia i dont think deserved the silver she lacked difficulty
Let’s see, shall we? Pavlova: - 0.5 on the first skill Skill gets downgraded to a C skill Cheng Fei: - 0.3 on the back tuck 1/1 Cheng deserved bronze. Stop bitching over how Pavlova was robbed because she was NOT
I love how she move her body, so elegant. And love her look, so serious, never smile.:) but actually she so smart woman now, she talk smart, think smart. I think she is a coach now.
bottom line is there were too many gymnasts at the time that were better then her. if she performed this way at the 2004 or even 2000 olympics she would have gotten a gold somewhere, I am sure.
Absolutely not. She missed an element and lost start value plus the accompanying deduction. When you have only just enough to contend for bronze with FULL difficulty, you can’t afford a major error like that. Cheng Fei had bobbles but got full start value. Scores were exactly as they should have been.
Big error and missed element at the beginning was the problem. She lost start value while Cheng got all of hers. Even with the bobbles she still had a bit more room to play with in the end.
@@nathan10120 Everyone was overscored in 2008. Her score wasn't too high compared to others who had multiple wobbles and mistakes. Her "big" mistake would only really impact her D score. Her E score probably wouldn't suffer that much from the mistake.
@MrAerial12345 no other gymnasts smile at the end of their routines and support the other gymnasts after they finish pavola NEVER did that becuse she had a bad attidue.
Ana MISSED AN ELEMENT. Not sure how that could be such a hard concept to understand. She had only just enough SV to contend for bronze WITH full difficulty, so the missed element made a huge difference. Cheng had errors but got all her difficulty completed. Big difference.
They didn’t raise the “green flag.” They have a light system on the score board near the athletes, and they ALL know to wait until the green go light. She stated that it was all her own mistake.
Anyone who thinks she WAS didn’t pay attention to the entire competition. She definitely shouldn’t have gotten bronze with a completely missed element. Cheng had errors but got all of her start value.
She completely missed an entire element, which was subsequently downgraded substantially and received a deduction. That was the difference maker. While I don’t feel Fei should have gotten bronze, Anna shouldn’t have either. Dragoi was better than both, cleaner and just missed one connection- but lacked start value herself.
By herself and her coaches only. She completely missed an entire element, costing her start value and a deduction to boot. Her coaches should have been constructing routines that were more competitive if they wanted medals, and all the errors didn’t help.
Perhaps my username and picture might not help my cause but even with those mistakes from Anna, tell me why even Elfie was shocked at Fei's beam score?? Fei had no rhythm on the beam, a hefty balance check on the tuck full (not including the arm swings), another big balance check on the back pike, and a step on landing too? Pavlova was clearly robbed of a bronze. Even then, how did it match Johnson's e-score?? Fei even "woahed" at her score. Girl bye. You are the delusional one here.
@@annapavfan4680 you are also delusional for feeling Anna should have gotten bronze. That was NOT a medal worthy routine. Dragoi should have been the bronze as her routine was much cleaner than either of the aforementioned. This individual is right about one thing- Russians always feel more entitled. Selfish arrogance at its finest.
By herself and her coaches for not having routines that were more competitive. Here she had just enough to contend for bronze- until she missed that third element. Start value loss and deduction made the difference, and that’s not on anyone but herself.
She was a FOCUSED individual. You clearly have never been a serious athlete, or you’d know that focus is crucial. She was sad that she was leaving the games with no medals, and probably wanted to be alone with her thoughts. Understandably. Khorkina DID have a rotten attitude, bad mouthing other gymnasts and saying nasty things to them during the competition (just ask Carly’s coach who heard her say something, UNDERSTOOD IT, and rebuffed her as consequence). THAT is a rotten attitude, something Anna never did.
@Missnewyork28 no way she would of got silver. Bronze if they didn't overscore cheng fei. Theres just noooo way she could beat nastia with this routine. Even if her start value was higher.
No other gymnast have more beautiful legs and flexibility than Ana Pavlova.
Anna Porgras, multiple Chinese athletes, Victoria Komova, and too many others to count qualify easily.
Picture perfect switch ring leap. Textbook definition of how it should be done
her sheep jump very bad though
Lol Anna should've given Nastia a tutorial on how to properly perform that leap.
@@You-dh1duand Nastia could have given her lessons on how to perform a routine with virtually no hesitation or bobbles.
Two consecutive 4th place on Balance Beam at Olympics for her. How frustrating =( am
The same thing happened with Vanessa Ferray in the London and Rio floor final
@@robertogarcia7873 She probably could have been and would have been Olympic champion in Tokyo if not for her eponymous leap (and the Gogean). C elements would have been the better option, in hindsight; but I'm thrilled for her silver.
@@robertogarcia7873aliya mustafina was better,we watched it
Gotta love that switch ring leap! Anna's is one of the best, no doubt!
While I recognize and appreciate what a great gymnast Cheng Fei is, and I know I'm totally biased because Anna is one of my favorite gymnasts of all time ..... But I really wish she won a medal here
Sadly she likely would have if she’d completed that one move correctly. Tough to overcome a missed element.
@@saragrant9749 agreed, the miss on the Kolesnikova cost her the bronze
@@poshboI do wish she’d gotten more medals- especially in AA. Bars was always her Achilles heel it seemed. That event is either something you’re extremely comfortable at… or just hoping to get completed. I had a friend who did gymnastics and bars always scared her.
Acho lindo a elegância da Pavlova.
Elegantíssima
She really was. I just wish she’d hit that one missed element as it would have gotten her the bronze.
Anna is my favorite gymnast ❤
Her side sumi/somi (unsure of spelling) is beautiful. You don't see many people land that as surely as she did here.
She's great.
That switch ring was exquisite.
Rusia tiene amplia trayectoria en esta disciplina deportiva, es una maestra, es pionera, es de èlite mundial. Basta mencionar a Jelena Mukhina...! Un icono..!
Russia (Soviet Union before that) has a long history of cheating. First, the Soviets having control of the judges for so long, second the Russians and their love of performance enhancing substances. Teachers? Not hardly- unless you’re referring to how to be smug, self righteous and haughty poor sports.
She deserved the bronze medal! ❤️
The major error right off the bat costed her the medal.
@@nathan10120 but cheng feis errors were pretty bad too💔
@@saragrant9749 Dragoi would have needed a 9.450 to medal and she received a 9.125 , do you really think she deserved a 9.5 from half the panel???
@@josephqualtier961the big difference was Cheng still got all of her difficulty, Anna did not. That made the difference.
I love this routine , Anna was the last gymnast with that specific classic Russian style 🏽👏🏽and she was robbed in her last olympics👎🏽+ those commentators who won't shut up , they didn't deserved see her performs in front of them.
She was most certainly not robbed. She had JUST ENOUGH start value to contend for bronze- until she missed her third element in that first series. That took start value away and had deductions, coupled with other bobbles costing her a medal. It may seem unfair, but the ones who robbed her were her coaches for not putting together routines that were more competitive.
Pavlova was robbed of a medal....she wobbled waaaay less than Cheng Fei....Fei's routine was actually rather sloppy.....but she had the "home team advantage"...
No such thing as a home team advantage. Judges aren't allowed to judge gymnasts from the same country as them. No Chinese judges judged anyone on the Chinese team.
@@jgsh8062 That’s true but there can be bribes. For example, when Adelina Sotnikova (who was part of the home team) undeservingly won over Yuna Kim. Even though it’s another sport, Olympic judges can definitely be bribed, given that the athlete doesn’t mess up so badly they couldn’t possibly medal. If it were indeed true that the judges here were bribed, they could’ve taken the opportunity of Pavlova missing that one element to let Cheng Fei take the bronze.
@@nathalieng8079 but that 1 element should have costed her the bronze
@@nathalieng8079 There definitely is a home team advantage. Whether consciously or not, it exists.
You can see the bias in the scoring. The Chinese were overscored on beam the entire competition!
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 Not just here, in other situations as well, in SOOO many other competitions
Аня великолепна!!!
Wonderful
Wowww!!
i think she was robbed of the bronze.. she deserved it ! :D
She had a major mistake right in the beginning. She was NOT robbed.
@@nathan10120 cheng fei was two major erros too.
@@jw6105 major? More like 1 3 tenth wobble and another 1 tenth step on their landing
@@nathan10120 Broken form, lack of split, balance, 0.3-0.5 are considered major erros
@@jw6105 she had no broken form and no lack of split. Just a few balance checks and a step on the landing
Like si llegaste aquí por este artículo:
Ejecutar el salto después de que el juez le dio la señal al gimnasta también puede llevar a una calificación de cero; esta deducción se ha ido reduciendo. Un ejemplo de esto sería el segundo salto de Anna Pavlova durante los Juegos Olímpicos de Verano del 2008, en la final de salto.
y ni aun viendo el video entendiste.
Es porque ella ejecutó el salto y según eso no le dieron la señal de salida y los jueves no estaban listos para calificar su ejecución, a mi me encanta esta gimnasta me parece muy linda y elegante y súper buena
El ejercicio que falla Pavlova es un Kholeshnikova?
@mortella23 She doesn't give them the death stare. She's watching their routine. It's likely they aren't looking at her during their routine either. So gymnasts who don't pay attention to their competition have better sportsmanship?
@ShawnVikaKomova2012 no its just at some competitons after she's done she sees the other gymnast preforme and gives them the death stare the hole time! She had bad sportsmainship
I thought Anna rotates her moves the opposite or clockwise direction?
@Angel9837 They are again...in fact they are number one right now
She was underscored.
She was overscored
Great routine but bad luck 💔
edgar fuentes I think she was beter than Cheng Fei.
she was!
@@LuisMiguel2191she’d have gotten bronze if she got that one missed element. Big error with start value loss and a deduction.
@mortella23 What are you talking about!? What did she ever do!? Did she make fun of Tweddle's teeth like Nastia alledgedly did? She should be upset for being underscored!
I don't understand why wasn't connecting her front aerial, tucked side somersault, and Kolesnikova here like in Athens. In some of her beam routines in Beijing, it looked like she was attempting to but never connected all three.
I almost think it might have been a mental thing- second guessing herself and thus choosing not to. I could be wrong but it almost seems that way. A pity as it was a really cool series.
i hope she can get her dream in 2012
Your comment os breaking my heart :( i watch gymnastics since i was 4 years old. I dont remember Pavlova in London and i dont know what she thinks about her own work, but i wanna hug her and tell her that she had a lovely style.
Unfortunately she was essentially blackballed by the coaches for the errors she had in Beijing, and didn’t go to London. It’s unfortunate as she was a great gymnast who just had a rough go- much like Alicia Sacramone.
i dont care what the official score is....she IS the bronze medalist in my mind.
0:39 big miss.
Sadly she would have been for real were it not for the completely missed element right off the bat. Lowered start score and an execution deduction to boot were tough to overcome.
that bronze should have been hers! Beautiful :)
No. She had a major error right off the bat.
It would have been hers if she’d succeeded in completing that one missed element unfortunately.
@liukin95 Plus,if she stuck the dismount or just had small step,she would have gotten silver or even gold!
Keep dreaming. She is simply not talented enough to win an individual Olympic medal
@@nathan10120 that wasn’t necessary- and she DID win an individual medal- a bronze on vault in 2004. In the AA she had no chance because of bars- and I suspect she probably knew it. Bars isn’t everyone’s strength, anymore than beam or vault. This beam routine did have medal potential- if she’d gotten that one missed element. You sound like someone with an inferiority complex who needs to bash others to try to make yourself feel better- nice failure.
@@nathan10120for your information she DID win an individual Olympic medal- on vault in Athens. No need to be so selfishly rude and disrespectful.
i find it extremely irritating how nbc nit picks the turns, for any country other than the states. but nastia, in almost every beam routine, does the same little "balance check" that she did here, but they never say a word about it. but, to me, it looks just as bad as any other balance check.
i really think that she should have had the bronze despite the first error cheng fei had a huge error at the begining with her full twisting tuck back and also nastia i dont think deserved the silver she lacked difficulty
Let’s see, shall we?
Pavlova:
- 0.5 on the first skill
Skill gets downgraded to a C skill
Cheng Fei:
- 0.3 on the back tuck 1/1
Cheng deserved bronze. Stop bitching over how Pavlova was robbed because she was NOT
Nastia had one of the highest difficulty scores of the games- not sure where you got off saying that load of bs.
Es el leotardo de Sidney 2000
@MrAerial12345 Oh, well I guess I'm mistaken then! Sorry :)
but nastia has great execution, actually I think she got the highest execution score on balance beam at those olympic games
In qualification and the final for this event, she did have the highest execution (somewhere around the 9.3 range).
yeh i would love to see Pavlova to win olympic gold :)
Lol ur dreaming
@mortella23 How? Because she doesn't smile? She's focused!
I love how she move her body, so elegant. And love her look, so serious, never smile.:) but actually she so smart woman now, she talk smart, think smart. I think she is a coach now.
1:00 & 1:23
bottom line is there were too many gymnasts at the time that were better then her. if she performed this way at the 2004 or even 2000 olympics she would have gotten a gold somewhere, I am sure.
She was good. So elegant. Sorry but gymnastics now 2020 is all about muscles, music and performance.
The best she os te moment
and in the end the gymnasts with the better attitudes will win medals
I think :
1. Shawn Johnson
2. NastiabLiukin
3. Anna Pavlova is Bronze ... not Cheng Fei (China) ... X factor ... home
No
@@nathan10120 . Anna Pavlova is better in this moment
@@nathan10120 .. HOME's FACTOR
@@ajibumiserpongdamai1519 lol hell no
Absolutely not. She missed an element and lost start value plus the accompanying deduction. When you have only just enough to contend for bronze with FULL difficulty, you can’t afford a major error like that. Cheng Fei had bobbles but got full start value. Scores were exactly as they should have been.
russias landings are superb
russia used to be one of the best teams in the worldd as in top 3...
if she got that handstand to the top she would have got bronze over cheng fei :'(
That and the landing. Quite a big step though.
@@ledhicks, true. She missed the skill. So Cheng Fwi deserved the bronze.
Why wasn’t this bronze
Big error and missed element at the beginning was the problem. She lost start value while Cheng got all of hers. Even with the bobbles she still had a bit more room to play with in the end.
6.8 / 9.1 = 15.900
Overscored
@@nathan10120 Everyone was overscored in 2008. Her score wasn't too high compared to others who had multiple wobbles and mistakes. Her "big" mistake would only really impact her D score. Her E score probably wouldn't suffer that much from the mistake.
@@bluepanther1013 she would lose 5 tenths for that mistake and the skill would have been downgraded to a C skill.
I hate all the arm checking. The routines were more fluid in the Nadia era !
@MrAerial12345 no other gymnasts smile at the end of their routines and support the other gymnasts after they finish pavola NEVER did that becuse she had a bad attidue.
Ana must have been bronze, Cheng Fei was favored she had too many big mistakes.
🤣🤣🤣
Ana MISSED AN ELEMENT. Not sure how that could be such a hard concept to understand. She had only just enough SV to contend for bronze WITH full difficulty, so the missed element made a huge difference. Cheng had errors but got all her difficulty completed. Big difference.
Why do these commentators only have to point out their mistakes and not when they do great? It’s annoying
The problem on vault was just stupid. If she was not supposed to go why would they raised the green flag. And here she was just rubbed.
They didn’t raise the “green flag.” They have a light system on the score board near the athletes, and they ALL know to wait until the green go light. She stated that it was all her own mistake.
Anyone who thinks Anna was not robbed here is clearly trying to start something. Period.
Anyone who thinks she WAS didn’t pay attention to the entire competition. She definitely shouldn’t have gotten bronze with a completely missed element. Cheng had errors but got all of her start value.
She deserved the bronze i watch her perfomance all over again and her bb routine is way better than that chinese gymnast
She completely missed an entire element, which was subsequently downgraded substantially and received a deduction. That was the difference maker. While I don’t feel Fei should have gotten bronze, Anna shouldn’t have either. Dragoi was better than both, cleaner and just missed one connection- but lacked start value herself.
she lacks luck!
ROBBED
By herself and her coaches only. She completely missed an entire element, costing her start value and a deduction to boot. Her coaches should have been constructing routines that were more competitive if they wanted medals, and all the errors didn’t help.
Missed a skill and huge step on the dismount. Russian fans are delusional
Perhaps my username and picture might not help my cause but even with those mistakes from Anna, tell me why even Elfie was shocked at Fei's beam score?? Fei had no rhythm on the beam, a hefty balance check on the tuck full (not including the arm swings), another big balance check on the back pike, and a step on landing too? Pavlova was clearly robbed of a bronze. Even then, how did it match Johnson's e-score?? Fei even "woahed" at her score. Girl bye. You are the delusional one here.
@@annapavfan4680 you are also delusional for feeling Anna should have gotten bronze. That was NOT a medal worthy routine. Dragoi should have been the bronze as her routine was much cleaner than either of the aforementioned. This individual is right about one thing- Russians always feel more entitled. Selfish arrogance at its finest.
She was robbed
By herself and her coaches for not having routines that were more competitive. Here she had just enough to contend for bronze- until she missed that third element. Start value loss and deduction made the difference, and that’s not on anyone but herself.
she always had a rotton attitude, I understand why she can be upset, but you don't have to be so rotton and mean to the other gymnasts.
She was a FOCUSED individual. You clearly have never been a serious athlete, or you’d know that focus is crucial. She was sad that she was leaving the games with no medals, and probably wanted to be alone with her thoughts. Understandably. Khorkina DID have a rotten attitude, bad mouthing other gymnasts and saying nasty things to them during the competition (just ask Carly’s coach who heard her say something, UNDERSTOOD IT, and rebuffed her as consequence). THAT is a rotten attitude, something Anna never did.
im sorry but it this routine was awful. cheng fei’s was bad as well. id give it to chung.
@Missnewyork28 no way she would of got silver. Bronze if they didn't overscore cheng fei. Theres just noooo way she could beat nastia with this routine. Even if her start value was higher.