Two things: Anna Pavlova is THE MOST ROBBED Gymnast ever. Two Olympic Bronzes taken away from her. Second: what a lovely routine. Totally deserved better
I was just about to comment this exact same thing using the exact same rhetoric.....ROBBED! Anna, if you are out there, you are MY 2004 olympic all around bronze medalist
The issue here was that triple turn- she hopped just before completing it and it was downgraded to a double- which lowered her start value… that was the difference. Can’t blame anyone when a dance element- in a code that focused on them- wasn’t completely done.
@@akawhippynot even close unfortunately. Her start value was substantially too low for a gold there- only four tumbling passes and dance elements that just weren’t worth enough in points. That Russian coaching squad in 2008 did not take advantage of the code and it cost them in several places.
I remember an interview with Anna where she said she doesn't enjoy dance and I was crushed because I love her beam and floor choreography and interpretation! Even if she didn't love it, she was stellar nonetheless!
Очень "интересное" замечание о том, что все прекрасно, мы её ценим, чёткие линии, красота и изящество и прочее... Но никто даже не заикается о том, чтобы поднять вопрос о том, чтобы опротестовать решение арбитров, короче, о несправедливости судейства. Просто у меня складывается такое впечатление, что все гимнастки задолго до олимпиады были расставлены по местам, вне зависимости от того, как на самом деле они выполняли упражнения, выступая на соревнованиях.
Cheryl Berenice Yoke Shim It really is perfect and she makes it look so effortless. Whoever did her floor choreography and helped her pick her music for here and the 2008 Olympics did a fantastic job and capitalized on her exceptional elegance. Her coaches however failed her because they didn't construct decent enough bars routines for her to medal. If you look at all of her scores at both Olympics, she would have easily medaled if the coaches would have done a better job. Sure, everyone can have a weak event, but that is when an excellent coach will construct a routine, and in this case a bars routine, with elements that she could have mastered. They knew for years what her current bars routines would score approximately and that simply was never enough. In this case, I believe the weakness was on the coaching staff and not the gymnast where there main focus should have been figuring out a creative bars routine for her. She was an exceptional gymnast and unfortunately didn't get the amount of medals she should have in her career.
The issue was two fold- bars were only a 9.8 SV, and weren’t performed to her utmost. Here was the main difference though- she had a couple of dance elements that weren’t completed, and in that code it was hugely costly.
I've only just realised her second pass is a whip + triple twist instead of just a triple twist which makes me even more mad that she only scored 9.612 here. Robbed! Completely! She had the most consistent execution of anyone in the competition, but got consistently underscored on every event. She only scored 0.05 higher than Carly even though Carly went oob, then she scores lower than Zhang Nan on beam, even though she had much better execution, and somehow scores lower than Zhang Nan when she had a much more difficult dismount?? Her floor is also worthy of a 9.65 at least.
Unfortunately she mad a visible error when attempting the triple turn into front support. You see her back foot clearly stumble backwards before all three turns were completed so that element (D at the time and worth 0.1 bonus to her start value) likely wasn't paid and she didn't have a full 10 start value
If the code of that time hadn’t focused so exclusively on absolute perfection on dance elements, she likely would have gotten a medal- what color between silver and bronze is hard to say. When she did that triple turn she made an error… and that was the difference maker. It’s what I didn’t like about that code. In finals your gold medal went to great dance and absolutely abismal sloppy tumbling, while another with superb tumbling but slightly different dance was left out in the cold.
Dance elements weren’t all done to absolute completion was the big issue- in a code that focused extremely heavily on that. Otherwise I think she likely would have gotten the bronze.
El Legado Ruso Único ella fue la última princesa Rusa aunque hubo fraude en Atenas 2004 no importa lo que si esque aquí quedo plasmado su verdadero arte y jamás la olvidaremos los verdaderos conocedores del ARTE.
@@osirisgutierrez3419 En viga de equilibrio no la rutina de Pavlova fue muy buena pero ante las rutinas de la Rumanas y Patterson la verdad Pavlova no tenía chance . En salto es otra cosa Pavlova merecía la plata
@@rogelinouicabtrejo4869 Khorkina did not perform to her best- as was proven on beam where she was extremely sloppy. Her bars wasn’t her best, nor was floor. The only person who stole her gold medal in the AA - was herself.
Fue gran contendiente y aun así fue boicoteada ella era plata en el AA,Plata en salto y Oro en la viga aún con el titubeo merecía mas medallas Anna Pavlova la última gran princesa rusa💞💞👏👑👏
@fabogymnastics Anna earned a bronze medal! Chinese gymnast Nan to free not completely unscrewed the 3 screws and a wrong landing. Score 9.6 - chic gift Nan from the judges. Bronze must be Anna Pavlova! Just the corrupt judge did not want to see on a pedestal of two Russian gymnasts!
The judges followed the rules given at the time by that code of points. If you want to blame something- blame that ridiculous code that focused almost exclusively on dance. Anna had an error on the triple turn and that was the difference maker. In terms of them “not wanting to see two Russians on the podium?” Typical Russian selfish arrogance.
Concuerdo con muchos de ustedes ella fue sensacional la mejor participación en olímpicos pero siento que ella merecía la medalla de plata en el all around porque fue mejor que svetlana Khorkina en la final de viga era plata pero un titubeó absurdamente penalizado le costo irse fuera del podio,en el salto fue excelente pero quizás su nerviosismo y su rutina tan sencilla de barras fue algo que siempre le afecto en las competencias pero lo mas triste y grave fue que siempre fue la mas boicoteada. Para mi Es la mejor aunque la voy a extrañar en competencia esperó le vaya mejor en su vida personal 👏👏👏💐🌟🌟💞🏆
Boycott is an incorrect term. She was never boycotted, she just never completely took advantage of either code of points. Here, dance was critical and she made a very visible error. In both, bars was a huge weakness and that doesn’t fly in the AA final.
Dance elements. That code was so dance specific that you literally couldn’t make even the slightest error without penalty. She had an error on the triple turn and that’s all it took.
mE ENCANTA ANNA PAVLO ES MUY ELEGANTE, MUY POTENTE PARA MI LA MEJOR GIMNASTA, QUE MALO QUE NO HAYA GANADO MEDALLAS NI EN ATENAS NI EN BEIJING, SO BAD PERO ES LA MEJOR
The way the male commentator pronounces Khorkina is really weird... And I hate when American commentators talk about American athletes during other competitors' routines. I mean, seriously, say Pavlova's score before you tell everyone Patterson's score. But I loved this routine! It was brilliant, especially the first and second passes! The third pass was brilliant as well. I love her.
honestly i love the hd video but can the commentators just shut the hell up!! I am trying to appreciate the beauty in Anna Pavlova's gymnastics but the commentator's are endlessly talking about her prior scores and even patterson on beam! It's so ridiculous, sometimes I think they just like to hear themselves talk
I love this thank you so much..could you do one for Carly's routine...I look at this and that and I just don't get it. Mohini's routine was great too, but I can understand why that scored so low.
By the code of points only. That code focused so exclusively on dance it was ridiculous. She had an error on the triple turn and that was the difference maker. It was what I didn’t like about that code.
@gy9402 in 2004 they didn't get deducted for taking a step on tumbling passes. I believe the score should have been around a 9.7...I mean Carly got a 9.712.
For everyone insisting she was robbed, here’s the biggest thing- in 2004 dance elements were highly influential in the score (just look at the sloppy routine that won GOLD in floor final). She may have beautiful dance, but the elements were often not done to a completion the code required and therefore cost her points. In 2008 her bars were unbelievably weak- in a code that rewarded strong bar work. The best gymnasts, those who DO medal are the ones who understand every aspect of the code they are given and work to build the strongest program. Anna DID NOT- and that’s why she never got an AA medal, period.
Love this routine and this music. It’s called winter and I first heard when Russian figure skater alexei yagudin used it for his short program at the 2001-2 season. Anna was so under scored here and her teammate khorkina was so over scored....
Unfortunately Svetlana had an edge in start value- across the board in the end. She had 0.1 on vault, 0.2 on bars, nothing on beam and initially nothing on floor- until Anna missed the completion of the triple turn. As much as I’d preferred her over Khorkina for silver, numbers told a different story.
Anna Pavlova la gimnasta mas robada y boicoteada de la historia 💔 ella fue subcampeona en muchas competencias pero como es rusa pues nunca le dieron sus medallas
It was a beautiful routine. I'm no expert, but I see her downscored .025v, .08bars, .05beam, and .033f. This would have tied her with khorkina; the scores were that close. Pavlova was in the top 3 in 3/4 apparatus AA at this olympics. Pavlova is one of my favorite gymnasts. Go to her website and see how she much competes and in how many events; she doesn't shy from competition and is one of the most dedicated gymnasts.
what an interesting observation you make....that she scored in the top 3 of 3/4 events in the all around. I had no idea. she just should have medaled in these Olympics (I think silver!). her uneven bars score killed her chances.
@@josephjohnson1794 the other problem was the code which focused really hard on dance alone. She had an error on the triple turn and that made the difference.
This is so underscored because she nailed 2 tumbling passes (first and third), she had steps on landings on second and last pass,cross of the legs also costs,but i dont believe that should only be 9.612, it should be at least 9.700,with all the deductions i found!
Triple turn wasn’t completed. Remember, this code focused extremely hard on perfection on dance elements. You couldn’t make even a tiny mistake on one or you’d lose credit for it and lower start value.
Did she get the 10.0SV? If it was 9.612 out of 9.9 I would think it's a fair score, because I wouldn't have credited her triple turn. I still think overall she should have been on the podium over Zhang Nan.
No, the triple was downgraded to a double and I believe cost 0.1 in SV- or something like that. That code left no room for dance elements being even slightly incomplete. The difference- and why she didn’t medal over Zhang- was bars. 10.0 vs 9.8 SV is a critical difference.
@slamballmanlita I understand that completely. But, the commentators are supposed to be commenting the gymnast being shown, not the gymnast that has yet to compete or has already competed (or currently competing, like Patterson during Pavlova's routine). Even BBC has a slight bias, now that multiple British gymnasts, other than Tweddle, are actually doing well in competition. I guess unbiased media is extremely difficult to come by these days.
Una lástima que Pavlova nooo haya estado en la final de piso, hubiera sido una muy digna rival de Ponnor si demeritar a las demás, pero Pavlova también interpreta
@gy9402 in 2004 they didn't get deducted for taking a step on tumbling passes. I believe the score should have been around a 9.7...I mean Carly got a 9.712. and carly got a 9.752 on beam...did you see pavlova's beam lol she was robbed lol.
@saltlakecity2002 LOL What do you aspect they America commentators and USA fans want to know how our athletes doing and score a little bit more then someone else score espically if that person has a chance to get the Gold in Olympic All Around.
No Shannon is busy...that girl is famous lol..she is doing this because she had a free summer and wanted a free trip to Greece. Elfi does it because NBC allows her too. Shannon doesn't want to do that.
That had absolutely nothing to do with it. She lost score here because of a dance element that wasn’t completed- in a code that was extremely dance specific. Her bars were also a little too weak. It’s unfortunate but that was the code and everyone knew it.
Two things: Anna Pavlova is THE MOST ROBBED Gymnast ever. Two Olympic Bronzes taken away from her.
Second: what a lovely routine. Totally deserved better
I agree, also deserved gold 05 euros
I was just about to comment this exact same thing using the exact same rhetoric.....ROBBED! Anna, if you are out there, you are MY 2004 olympic all around bronze medalist
The issue here was that triple turn- she hopped just before completing it and it was downgraded to a double- which lowered her start value… that was the difference. Can’t blame anyone when a dance element- in a code that focused on them- wasn’t completely done.
And she probably deserved the gold in floor in Beijing 2008.
@@akawhippynot even close unfortunately. Her start value was substantially too low for a gold there- only four tumbling passes and dance elements that just weren’t worth enough in points. That Russian coaching squad in 2008 did not take advantage of the code and it cost them in several places.
I wish Shannon was still a commantator, she is so positive and actually knows what she's talking about.
Anna was wonderful as always
I love Shannon Miller, she is so respectful and positive all the time!
I remember an interview with Anna where she said she doesn't enjoy dance and I was crushed because I love her beam and floor choreography and interpretation! Even if she didn't love it, she was stellar nonetheless!
Right!?!? That's what I am saying.. For someone who didn't enjoy the dance, you can't even tell in any of her perfomances. Just beautiful.
Crazy to think she didn’t when she was in reality a very graceful dancer. You’d have never known it.
one of the most underrated gymnasts of all time
love this routine ! Her AA FX routines in both Athens and Beijing were top notch
А можно уточнить, что это у вас за выражение "рутина", "обожаю эту рутину". Поясните, пожалуйста.
She was so underestimated.. gorgeous gymnastics ❤
Baby Pavs! I love all her FX's!
That's the most gorgeous full twisting double I have seen in my entire life.
Te adoro Anna Pavlova y todos sabemos que merecías una medalla AA y una en viga. Pero hacías de la gimnasia un arte y seguimos apreciándolo.
La diva! La Paola bracho de la gimnasia ❤🔥
@@Julian___294 y quién es la Paulina Martínez? (?)
Una reina Anna!
Очень "интересное" замечание о том, что все прекрасно, мы её ценим, чёткие линии, красота и изящество и прочее... Но никто даже не заикается о том, чтобы поднять вопрос о том, чтобы опротестовать решение арбитров, короче, о несправедливости судейства.
Просто у меня складывается такое впечатление, что все гимнастки задолго до олимпиады были расставлены по местам, вне зависимости от того, как на самом деле они выполняли упражнения, выступая на соревнованиях.
I love that third pass so much. It looks so effortless and graceful.
This routine is sooooo perfect and a joy to watch..
Cheryl Berenice Yoke Shim It really is perfect and she makes it look so effortless. Whoever did her floor choreography and helped her pick her music for here and the 2008 Olympics did a fantastic job and capitalized on her exceptional elegance. Her coaches however failed her because they didn't construct decent enough bars routines for her to medal. If you look at all of her scores at both Olympics, she would have easily medaled if the coaches would have done a better job. Sure, everyone can have a weak event, but that is when an excellent coach will construct a routine, and in this case a bars routine, with elements that she could have mastered. They knew for years what her current bars routines would score approximately and that simply was never enough. In this case, I believe the weakness was on the coaching staff and not the gymnast where there main focus should have been figuring out a creative bars routine for her. She was an exceptional gymnast and unfortunately didn't get the amount of medals she should have in her career.
Whenever I get bored by today's floor routines, I just watch one of Pav's :)
Pavlova should have gotten silver IMO
The issue was two fold- bars were only a 9.8 SV, and weren’t performed to her utmost. Here was the main difference though- she had a couple of dance elements that weren’t completed, and in that code it was hugely costly.
I've only just realised her second pass is a whip + triple twist instead of just a triple twist which makes me even more mad that she only scored 9.612 here. Robbed! Completely!
She had the most consistent execution of anyone in the competition, but got consistently underscored on every event. She only scored 0.05 higher than Carly even though Carly went oob, then she scores lower than Zhang Nan on beam, even though she had much better execution, and somehow scores lower than Zhang Nan when she had a much more difficult dismount?? Her floor is also worthy of a 9.65 at least.
Unfortunately she mad a visible error when attempting the triple turn into front support. You see her back foot clearly stumble backwards before all three turns were completed so that element (D at the time and worth 0.1 bonus to her start value) likely wasn't paid and she didn't have a full 10 start value
I really like her walk-over.
still in awe that she didnt get an AA medal.. After watching the competition again.. i really think she should have gotten the silver over khorkina..!
i just rewatched some of the aa Athens games. I completely agree with u. she should've had silver! anna's beam and floor underscored for sure
If the code of that time hadn’t focused so exclusively on absolute perfection on dance elements, she likely would have gotten a medal- what color between silver and bronze is hard to say. When she did that triple turn she made an error… and that was the difference maker. It’s what I didn’t like about that code. In finals your gold medal went to great dance and absolutely abismal sloppy tumbling, while another with superb tumbling but slightly different dance was left out in the cold.
she was so robbed of a medal here!
Dance elements weren’t all done to absolute completion was the big issue- in a code that focused extremely heavily on that. Otherwise I think she likely would have gotten the bronze.
Yes she was ..
Agree!!
Oh my girl😭 She just needed a little more
She was ROBBED. Period.
@@minion0777 Maybe.... But most sad is her beam... so beautiful but no medals
That triple turn not being completed was the difference. She was only robbed by that code of points- nothing else.
That was underscored
El Legado Ruso Único ella fue la última princesa Rusa aunque hubo fraude en Atenas 2004 no importa lo que si esque aquí quedo plasmado su verdadero arte y jamás la olvidaremos los verdaderos conocedores del ARTE.
jose moreno A que te refieres en que uvo fraude en las olimpiadas del 2004?
Recuerdo el robo en la final de barra de Alexei Nemov y el AA de Pavlova y la final de viga
Le robaron el título a Khorkina
@@osirisgutierrez3419 En viga de equilibrio no la rutina de Pavlova fue muy buena pero ante las rutinas de la Rumanas y Patterson la verdad Pavlova no tenía chance .
En salto es otra cosa Pavlova merecía la plata
@@rogelinouicabtrejo4869 Khorkina did not perform to her best- as was proven on beam where she was extremely sloppy. Her bars wasn’t her best, nor was floor. The only person who stole her gold medal in the AA - was herself.
Fue gran contendiente y aun así fue boicoteada ella era plata en el AA,Plata en salto y Oro en la viga aún con el titubeo merecía mas medallas Anna Pavlova la última gran princesa rusa💞💞👏👑👏
Don’t make errors that incur deductions and a reduction in start value. That’s the key to winning medals.
I Anna pavlova!!
So clean and beautiful as an angel ❤
@fabogymnastics Anna earned a bronze medal! Chinese gymnast Nan to free not completely unscrewed the 3 screws and a wrong landing. Score 9.6 - chic gift Nan from the judges. Bronze must be Anna Pavlova! Just the corrupt judge did not want to see on a pedestal of two Russian gymnasts!
The judges followed the rules given at the time by that code of points. If you want to blame something- blame that ridiculous code that focused almost exclusively on dance. Anna had an error on the triple turn and that was the difference maker. In terms of them “not wanting to see two Russians on the podium?” Typical Russian selfish arrogance.
Underrated Queen
Concuerdo con muchos de ustedes ella fue sensacional la mejor participación en olímpicos pero siento que ella merecía la medalla de plata en el all around porque fue mejor que svetlana Khorkina en la final de viga era plata pero un titubeó absurdamente penalizado le costo irse fuera del podio,en el salto fue excelente pero quizás su nerviosismo y su rutina tan sencilla de barras fue algo que siempre le afecto en las competencias pero lo mas triste y grave fue que siempre fue la mas boicoteada.
Para mi Es la mejor aunque la voy a extrañar en competencia esperó le vaya mejor en su vida personal 👏👏👏💐🌟🌟💞🏆
Boycott is an incorrect term. She was never boycotted, she just never completely took advantage of either code of points. Here, dance was critical and she made a very visible error. In both, bars was a huge weakness and that doesn’t fly in the AA final.
Seriously how did she not medal ?!
9.8 SV on bars 😪
@@thesovgc. I still think she deserved at least bronze.
Dance elements. That code was so dance specific that you literally couldn’t make even the slightest error without penalty. She had an error on the triple turn and that’s all it took.
Anna Pavlova es una de las mas hermosas gimnastas rusas, y muy buena por cierto, lastima que no haya tenido suerte.
Not even a bronze...
Triple turn error made the difference unfortunately.
She was so good!!
kills me that she didnt win bronze....
This routine deserved the gold
mE ENCANTA ANNA PAVLO ES MUY ELEGANTE, MUY POTENTE PARA MI LA MEJOR GIMNASTA, QUE MALO QUE NO HAYA GANADO MEDALLAS NI EN ATENAS NI EN BEIJING, SO BAD PERO ES LA MEJOR
Gabo bronce por equipos y bronce salto de caballo en Atenas
The queen
Not really. Elegant? Graceful? Absolutely. The queen? Not even remotely.
Beautiful..
The way the male commentator pronounces Khorkina is really weird... And I hate when American commentators talk about American athletes during other competitors' routines. I mean, seriously, say Pavlova's score before you tell everyone Patterson's score.
But I loved this routine! It was brilliant, especially the first and second passes! The third pass was brilliant as well. I love her.
honestly i love the hd video but can the commentators just shut the hell up!! I am trying to appreciate the beauty in Anna Pavlova's gymnastics but the commentator's are endlessly talking about her prior scores and even patterson on beam! It's so ridiculous, sometimes I think they just like to hear themselves talk
They are paid to commentate. Doing their job. You can always watch on mute.
muy hermosa ana
es muy hermosa
I love this thank you so much..could you do one for Carly's routine...I look at this and that and I just don't get it. Mohini's routine was great too, but I can understand why that scored so low.
she deserved the Bronze...she was robbed!!
By the code of points only. That code focused so exclusively on dance it was ridiculous. She had an error on the triple turn and that was the difference maker. It was what I didn’t like about that code.
es muy hermosa.
@gy9402 in 2004 they didn't get deducted for taking a step on tumbling passes. I believe the score should have been around a 9.7...I mean Carly got a 9.712.
Triple turn wasn’t completed. That code was hugely dance specific, with absolutely no room for even a tiny mistake.
@gymnastics404 It is Shannon Miller
@tmwalkerm Thank you so much. I have been saying that for a long time and I work in television and no one would believe me lol.
For everyone insisting she was robbed, here’s the biggest thing- in 2004 dance elements were highly influential in the score (just look at the sloppy routine that won GOLD in floor final). She may have beautiful dance, but the elements were often not done to a completion the code required and therefore cost her points. In 2008 her bars were unbelievably weak- in a code that rewarded strong bar work. The best gymnasts, those who DO medal are the ones who understand every aspect of the code they are given and work to build the strongest program. Anna DID NOT- and that’s why she never got an AA medal, period.
Love this routine and this music. It’s called winter and I first heard when Russian figure skater alexei yagudin used it for his short program at the 2001-2 season. Anna was so under scored here and her teammate khorkina was so over scored....
Unfortunately Svetlana had an edge in start value- across the board in the end. She had 0.1 on vault, 0.2 on bars, nothing on beam and initially nothing on floor- until Anna missed the completion of the triple turn. As much as I’d preferred her over Khorkina for silver, numbers told a different story.
Anna Pavlova la gimnasta mas robada y boicoteada de la historia 💔 ella fue subcampeona en muchas competencias pero como es rusa pues nunca le dieron sus medallas
It was a beautiful routine. I'm no expert, but I see her downscored .025v, .08bars, .05beam, and .033f. This would have tied her with khorkina; the scores were that close. Pavlova was in the top 3 in 3/4 apparatus AA at this olympics. Pavlova is one of my favorite gymnasts. Go to her website and see how she much competes and in how many events; she doesn't shy from competition and is one of the most dedicated gymnasts.
what an interesting observation you make....that she scored in the top 3 of 3/4 events in the all around. I had no idea. she just should have medaled in these Olympics (I think silver!). her uneven bars score killed her chances.
@@josephjohnson1794 the other problem was the code which focused really hard on dance alone. She had an error on the triple turn and that made the difference.
This is so underscored because she nailed 2 tumbling passes (first and third), she had steps on landings on second and last pass,cross of the legs also costs,but i dont believe that should only be 9.612, it should be at least 9.700,with all the deductions i found!
Triple turn wasn’t completed. Remember, this code focused extremely hard on perfection on dance elements. You couldn’t make even a tiny mistake on one or you’d lose credit for it and lower start value.
Did she get the 10.0SV? If it was 9.612 out of 9.9 I would think it's a fair score, because I wouldn't have credited her triple turn. I still think overall she should have been on the podium over Zhang Nan.
No, the triple was downgraded to a double and I believe cost 0.1 in SV- or something like that. That code left no room for dance elements being even slightly incomplete.
The difference- and why she didn’t medal over Zhang- was bars. 10.0 vs 9.8 SV is a critical difference.
@slamballmanlita I understand that completely. But, the commentators are supposed to be commenting the gymnast being shown, not the gymnast that has yet to compete or has already competed (or currently competing, like Patterson during Pavlova's routine). Even BBC has a slight bias, now that multiple British gymnasts, other than Tweddle, are actually doing well in competition. I guess unbiased media is extremely difficult to come by these days.
spanish commentators, but well they like too much russian style and love the strong tumbling in americans
Deserved the bronze tbh
This must be Music monday
I want it so baaaad!
She was ROBBED! here and in Beijing, this is ARTISTIC GYMNASTIC, doesn't exist now, will ever comeback?
👍👍👍💕
plus this commentary isn't the usual this is Shannon Miller...she knows things lol.
Una lástima que Pavlova nooo haya estado en la final de piso, hubiera sido una muy digna rival de Ponnor si demeritar a las demás, pero Pavlova también interpreta
@saltlakecity2002 you got it...yay.
La gimnasta rusa con mas boicot en toda su carrera deportiva gracias a la élite USA y la salida de los mejores atletas y entrenadores de Rusia
@JohnPhilipSousa519 yes lol same here
@gy9402 in 2004 they didn't get deducted for taking a step on tumbling passes. I believe the score should have been around a 9.7...I mean Carly got a 9.712. and carly got a 9.752 on beam...did you see pavlova's beam lol she was robbed lol.
4th Place
Elfi may be a nationalistic *fill in the blank* but she doesn't brag at all. When has she ever bragged?
Robbed.
Is Nastia commentating?
It's Shannon Miller. Nastia was 15 at the time this aired.
LOL honestly I could see why. A similar tone is their voices (other then the commentary).
This code was shit , pavlova was the real champion that night
Champion? No, not with the absolutely rock solid performance of Carly. Silver or bronze? With a different code very likely.
Si pavlova hubiera concursado en el 2000 ganaba el oro en AA
@saltlakecity2002 LOL What do you aspect they America commentators and USA fans want to know how our athletes doing and score a little bit more then someone else score espically if that person has a chance to get the Gold in Olympic All Around.
She was never in the judges favor at all
No Shannon is busy...that girl is famous lol..she is doing this because she had a free summer and wanted a free trip to Greece. Elfi does it because NBC allows her too. Shannon doesn't want to do that.
plus shannon doesnt brag. Elfi brags and it makes no sense, SHE HAS NOTHING TO BRAG ABOUT. has she ever won olympic gold, idontthinkso.
I know why she never scored higher, is because she never smiled.
That had absolutely nothing to do with it. She lost score here because of a dance element that wasn’t completed- in a code that was extremely dance specific. Her bars were also a little too weak. It’s unfortunate but that was the code and everyone knew it.
es muy hermosa.
es muy hermosa