Check out the first 2 episodes of Troll Lore here! Ancient History - ua-cam.com/video/5unleH-erAA/v-deo.html The Best Warlord EVER - ua-cam.com/video/Xqy2sTU-r0w/v-deo.html&ab_channel=PlatinumWoW
1 more Episode, you can do it Platinum wow. They are many more troll tribs and funny lore, sandyfury, Blood Trolls, drakari near irenforge and trolls in Arati hillands.
I hope you're a writer by trade. . . Honestly, I have minimal interest in WoW lore (no disrespect) but , the witty storytelling and clever editing make it pretty entertaining.
@@Windowsprodukt Trolls stand at like 10ft tall, are highly agile & strong, can regenerate almost any would unless the wound is outright fatal e.g. decapitation. Possess an extremely powerful source of magic called Voodoo & at the time of the Qiraji war were comprised of many trolls from many different tribes. Lore wise they're incredibly strong, unfortunately Blizzard's shit writers just needed a random enemy.
"Hmm... These 2 weak-ass tribes joined one of the major superpowers on Azeroth, they must be weaklings! Attack!" *Proceeds to get decimated by Horde* You'd think they'd learn something by now...
as an old head once told me. 'keep eating that pride sandwich and see how far you get. i've been eating it for 25 years now and look where i'm at.' he was a drunk and didn't give a damn about his lively hood but that man had some wisdom in him.
@Cegesh it doesn't count because 1. Wasnt a single tribe, took the entire race to cooperate, something they would never ever be able to do again. 2ndly Victory in battle is not winning a war, 3rdly the witherbark never took over stromguard completely, they sacked part of it with the help of the boulder fist ogres, and that wasnt really a war, stromguard was decimated at that point, So no not even lowlife Forrest trolls like the witherbark won a war.
The Black Empire was destroyed by the Titans and their keepers well before the Aqir War. The Aqir War was instead started when Xal'atath tricked a Gurubashi witch doctor into waking up a slumbering C'Thraxxi general, who then killed the troll and led the Aqir against the Empire of Zul. So really, the war wouldn't have happened at all if it weren't for the trolls playing with dark power. And Xal'atath.
It occurs to me, the Drakkari may have been slightly influenced to be mistrustful of Paladin outsiders after helping a certain Arthas Menethil burn down some boats...
And they NEVER learn that superior numbers and mundane tactics are NEVER going to win a war in a fantasy world were ULTRA powerful magic exists. Like seriously they need to look into using protection spells or wards so that their armies have atleast a smidge of a chance of not getting completely annihilated by stupidly overpowered magic nukes!
@@navilluscire2567 The amani try this once, but elves and humans just say "Hey buddies, what if we allied now?", creating the Kirin Tor in the process, bringing like 100 mages and making just a Medivh's scale nuke to annihilate the forest troll armies and the loa they have summons with them. The lore like to fuck the trolls without any respect. Even when they came as a force to be feared, the opposing side pulls out his ass an even stronger magic that delete them.
@@garroshhellscream594 I mean, Loa are supposed to be so powerful... but yet it seems like everyone just kind of smacks them around with no trouble. Even the loa Rezan just kind of fell into the dumbest trap ever out of impatience. You know, a multi millenia old being who existed since the Planet does? Who should be wise beyond measure and composed and even a little bit jaded, certainly realistic enough to know that charging an enemy who is very obviously taunting you is a bad bad idea? And that's the KING of Loas. All their other Loas either don't do shit, do the bare minimum, or just get killed off. Hell, their own people fuck them over, like the Drakkari, and the Loa seem entirely helpless somehow, despite Trolls acting like Loas will slit their throats if they don't do the daily tributes. Even goddamn Hakkar was a meme. I just don't get Blizz's hateboner for trolls. I know it's probably just convenient to write them off as "easy enemies" because there's so many trolls... but couldn't we just have a huge Gnoll dungeon or something? Some humans or elves? Far as I know, the only human dungeon in classic is like... Deadmines and Stockades, two incredibly forgettable dungeons. Maybe Shadowfang keep if you count the ghosts, but I personally count them as undead. Why not just a renegade band of humans/elves practicing blood/dark magic? Come to think of it, no Tauren dungeons either. We already have the Grimtotem tribe - perhaps them. Though I'm not sure, been a while since I played vanilla endgame content.
The Gurubashi conquered all of the kingdom of Stormwind except the capital in a couple days. And they would have destroyed Stormwind without much difficulty if it weren't for Medivh.
@@Froggeh92 The Amani didn't kill a king. They tried to kill King Anastarian Sunstrider, but got burned and tortured when the Old Horde abandoned that sidequest. The Gurubashi made it to Stormwind, killed the king and nearly destroyed it in a couple of days by themselves. If it wasn't for Medivh, Stormwind and it's territories would've been conquered by the Gurubashi.
Orcs killed the king of Stormwind too, granted they didn't have to fight wizard superman because he was fighting a psychic warlock and Warcraft Lucifer while fighting his friends on the physical world but still.
Damn, trolls are dope and all but they do not catch a break, you’d think that because their race is so ancient that they’d have a variety of stories, but nah
Amazing video as always, it's just unfortunate you haven't talked about the Shadowtooth tribe, the last dark trolls in Azeroth who lived on Hyjal, fought alongside the Grand Alliance against the Burning Legion in the Battle of Mount Hyjal and then got completely wiped out off screen by the Twillight's Hammer in Cataclysm, with a sole dark troll remaining in Zandalar
The Darkspear succeeded mightily. Their Chieftain became Warchief of the Horde. Some of their heroes are the most powerful on Azeroth, and saved the world more than once. And let's not forget the Dark Trolls. They found the Well of Eternity, mutated into elves, and became some of the biggest winners in the history of the world. Two powerful Alliance races and two powerful Horde races are descendants of Dark Trolls. Queen Azshara and all of the Naga are descendants of Dark trolls. Every interesting antagonist in the Burning Crusade expansion was a descendent of the Dark Trolls. One of the main antagonists of the next expansion is a descendent of Dark Trolls. The elves may not like it, but the history of the trolls is THEIR history.
Yeah, the only troll warchief lasted a single expansion where he didn't do absolutely nothing and died at the start of the next one. Now, Dark Trolls were still alive as far as Warcraft III, I wonder what happened to them in WoW...
@@dmtbtm2809 Exposure to Arcane energy transformed trolls into elves. Were they a different race, or the same race that had been altered by exposure to a magical energy source? Well, what shall we say about Akama, and the other broken? They were Draenei, but within the space of a single generation, they were transformed into completely different-looking creatures through exposure to fel energy. Did Akama belong to one race when he was born, and another race later on?I'm pretty sure that's not how races work. Akama may be called "broken", but he is really a Draenei who has been acted upon by fel energy. And what about Sylvanus? She was, undeniably, an elf. But then she died, and was exposed to death magic, and became what she now is. One minute, she was a high elf, and the next minute she was a Forsaken (though the name "forsaken" had not yet been invented for her race). Is that how races work? Do people suddenly transform from one race to another? No. She may call herself "Forsaken", but she is actually an undead elf. She is an elf who has been acted upon by death magic. When the dark trolls encountered the well of eternity, exposure to the arcane energy changed their physical bodies. At some point, these trolls decided to use a different word to describe themselves-elves. Apparently, at some point they also became ashamed of their troll ancestry, and sought to distance themselves from it. And yet, the ancestry remained. The elves and trolls hated each other, and warred over land and resources. But this certainly does not imply that elves do not have troll ancestors. Trolls fight amongst themselves, and elves fight amongst themselves. So do humans. So do orcs. Speaking of humans and orcs, these two races do not share a common ancestry. The humans have ancestors that were created by the Titan Khaz'goroth, whereas the orcs have ancestors that were created by the Titan Aggramar (in each case, they were created by Titans, not descended from them). A better comparison might be between humans and the Vrykul. These races definitely share a common ancestry, as the Vrykul were a more ancient race-predating humans. And if you trace the ancestry of any human back far enough, you will find a Vrykul. And if you trace the ancestry of any elf back far enough, you will find a troll. And everything the dark trolls did prior to to the "Well of Eternity" event is part of elven past. I repeat, elf history is troll history. And that makes the dark trolls some of the biggest winners in the history of this game.
Night elves started indiscriminately killing trolls, even though they saved Azeroth. After the genocide, the elves decided to have a party with demons.
Having your narration be an actual character with a story, interacting with the environment, is a lot of fun. That was also a really sweet moment at the end, that captured what I love about the entirety of the trolls. All these people have terrible things happen to them, that they (mostly) don't deserve. In their fight to save their old homes, they don't learn new lessons.
@@Skullivander I would be more than happy about an expansion where player characters just keep on losing. I mean all player characters, not faction or race-exclusive, we just become losers for an entire expansion and the next one we start winning again but not easily.
Hakkar: “If I were a child, Platinum.. and a nice ancient loa demon came up to me and was like, 'hello child', I need your BLOOD so I can look young again...' you know what I'd do Platinum?" Hakkar: (▪_○() "I'd give her the BLOOD, Platinum... SHE NEEDS IT!"
my 24 year old son forced me, his 54 year old mother, to watch this ... I was entertained, I subscribed -- Of all the times I did that instance I never realized the trolls were sacrificing their gods
Warcraft is a pretty easily accessible fantasy universe. It's basically a casual every man's dungeons and dragons. Also, Platinum does help add some brevity to that with his silly humor.
The freeing of Drakuru is by far my favorite quest line. He practically "befriends" you into freeing him, only for his story to finish in Drak'theron Keep and Zul'drak. Interestingly though, at the end of the dungeon you get to see Zul'drak physically change into a scourge foothold.
I love how insanely overpowered Medivh was. Like in theory he had all the possible magic of Azeroth at his disposal (thanks to Kara bein the center of all leylines) and it was the main key of the legion to undo him so that they can even attempt to invade. Even a faint memory he made come to life was a seriously hard boss for the player character. Even in the movie they portrayed him so terrible in compare to all the other content. I mean his half-blood offspring was so powerful he basically could spit atomic bombs. I wish they portrayed him right in one of the caverns of time dungeons.. his opening of the dark portal was a seriously underwhelming terrible disguisting dungeon and I hate it.
you know what Platinum despite the trolls downfall the Darkspears were the most succesful alive and kicking compared to the other trolls and also the raventusk so yeah moral pe the day is if youre allied with the horde ... u are also with the player character so no harm will ever come to you
I really like the Lore Guide personality you made and the 1st person transition. It was very well done and a pleasant surprise. I would definitely be entertained with more. First time I've seen something like that in a lore vid
@@PlatinumWoW This actually bangs, and gives me some great nostalgia. Adding this to my "Good VGM music " playlist. Thanks Platinum! Almost reminds me of Justice †. 2010's were a good year for EDM...
Platinum has and will be my favorite wow youtuber. His humor, art style, and just overall talent has made me laugh my ass off for so long and it seems every video has gotten better, funnier, and just overall a great experience. From the Rag video, to the Zandalari, to ALL the tribes, even stories about the Darkmoon Faire. I have mad respect for your talent, Plat. See you at one mill, my guy.
Lol, at the second ad, it was About travelling to an exotic island with believe it or not troll like music in the backround. From a danish Company called Apollo rejser
Lol "our differences are our strength" "we must defeat the evil with friendship" *gets brutally murdered by the people he protects* Where have I seen this before lmao
The trolls can be seen as an ancient empire slowly receding and dying away, while new cultures and civilisations are developing and thriving on their own way to supremacy. It's a bit unfair to compare the trolls at the end of their glory days with the developing powers of the new races with the added powers of the well of eternity. At their peak the United Empire of Zul was the most powerful force ever seen in Azeroth. They actually beat back the combined forces of the olds gods and the united Qiraji empires in The Qiraji Wars. That means the united forces of the Qiraji empire in its glory days + the whole of the Nerubian empire + The klaxxi mantid lords + all the old gods forces and generals.A feat unsurpassed by any. The trolls were the most powerful empire of ancient Azeroth before the Kaldorei. But it has also become the most ancient and old, conquered by new times and new ways. The fact that a few troll forces of power and recognition still lives on, several thousands years later, is a testament to the strength and endurance of the trolls. Though the ever flowing ebbs of time are slowly washing the last troll civilizations away. Unless they are willing to modernize and create new alliances like the Darkspear.
Being a troll in Warcraft means to be trolled by your very existence. Still pretty nice race to play, not gonna lie. The best are troll hunters who hunt trolls while being trolls, 10/10 role play.
The only time the Trolls dominated Azeroth was when they were literally the only intelligent life form. As soon as one of the tribes evolved into something not-Troll (Night Elves) they all fell and never recovered. Even then though, Trolls were so bad, that their descendants the Night Elves attracted the attention of the Burning Legion and were pretty much destroyed by the not-Troll newcomers, Orcs and Humans.
The opening of the Dark Portal isn't 70 years after the Gurubashi attacked Stormwind, because that would've meant that Llane, Lothar and Medivh were around 90-100 when Warcraft 1 began. Also, Vol'jamba's prohecy was right, since it involved Zul attacking and destroying Zandalar, that's why Zul wanted the players to silence him because his prophecy could've alerted Rastakhan of Zul's coming betrayal. Only reason as to why Vol'jamba's prophecy wasn't unfolded was because the players stopped Zul. And the Drakkari fought the Argent Crusade; not the Argent Dawn.
Here before the spider mount drops for him in Mechagon. Tho I'm sure I could have commented this even at the end of the next expansion. . . . . . . . . . . . . . *Completionist stream AM I RIGHT GUYS?*
U Did a awesome cinematic like documentary. Keep up the good work. I love your Videos they high quality and i think all can See what work u put in That Videos.
These videos just serve as proof of Blizzard's crappy writing.All they ever do with the trolls is make them evil and turn them into loot pinatas or kill off their significant characters.
Trolls are my favorite race but what you said is dumb. Is Lord of the Rings written poorly just because almost all dwarves are corrupt?, or because all orcs are evil? or because almost all hobbits are lazy buffoons? No. Stop circlejerking ya dummies.
I don't think it's crappy writing in of itself the concept that not every race is going to be prospering and have all the luck in the world, especially when there's fierce competition for limited land and resources and theirs dozens of sentient species all vying for dominance or atleast try to carve out niches for themselves. (doesn't mean they'll always succeed..)
It's less about making them evil and more like players can never truly lose because well players hate losing so ofcourse they're preordained to win everything and always come out on top even if that involves ass pulls or Deus Ex Machina. Pretty much any side the players are on is always going to be the winners when pitted against a NPC faction or group or individual no matter how powerful they are, no matter how much Blizzard says how clever they are nor how long they've spent planning out things, no matter how many contingencies they may have devised it'll all come to nothing when players are involved. The only time players might actually lose something (narratively and or even in-game content wise) is when it's players on one story faction vs players on the other story faction.
Me again. Sorry I know, sounding like a broken record but... It's also to do with poor worldbuilding in regards to the implications of ULTRA powerful magic existing within the setting. Literally no one in-universe seems to understand, appreciate, and respect the supreme power of magic and magic (in its various forms) is quite frankly stupidly overpowered rendering pretty much any side that doesn't have their own bullsh*t magic get absolutely destroyed by other groups that do have ample bullsh*t magic. Things like tactics and logistics or even just raw numbers means NOTHING if magic is involved, so magic is the be all, end all of everything, if a commander of an army doesn't account for magic and accept its awsome power then they can never hope to win a single battle let alone a war. Ofcourse even if a faction accounts for and utilizes magic it won't matter the minute a named character with bullsh*t magic that's even more ridiculously ovepowed shows up such as the case with Medivh, the former guardian, characters like him render strategy irrelevant and turn capable leadership that isn't a major lore character into complete pushovers, basically getting *"warfed"* to show of a character's power level. (killing any tension in the story up to the point before they showed up)
Holy Crap that Medivh Karazhan remix isn't what I thought I needed in my life but its beautiful and certainly is a welcome treat. Not to mention the Dark Souls cameo with Jindo the Godbreaker, great video man! Very entertaining.
Also Malaka'raz isn't the final Drakkari that is living, it could be speculated that there are more in Northrend. And even if there is not, the Icetusk Tribe ARE Drakkari that simply fled Northrend when the Scourge first became a threat to their people, so they live on but under a different name.
I stopped playing wow prolly about a year and half, maybe two but almost 2 days ago i discovered this channel and i've been binge watching every video and oh man im back playing wow again thx to this channel. Keep it up dude, ur going big
6:00 Was I the only one left diasappointed when Blizz had forgotten to put the iconic Medivh theme music into the Warcraft movie? Smh, they don't even care about their own lore anymore ...
I don't usually leave comments, but I had to this time - I adore your videos! Thank you for enlightening me on all the lore I've missed in such a coherent (given how much and how convoluted it can all be) and entertaining way!
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Check out the first 2 episodes of Troll Lore here!
Ancient History - ua-cam.com/video/5unleH-erAA/v-deo.html
The Best Warlord EVER - ua-cam.com/video/Xqy2sTU-r0w/v-deo.html&ab_channel=PlatinumWoW
1 more Episode, you can do it Platinum wow. They are many more troll tribs and funny lore, sandyfury, Blood Trolls, drakari near irenforge and trolls in Arati hillands.
Amazing as usual! -Riand
I wonder if asmonsmoke already react to that 🤔🤔
Man i gone throught all wowhead audios and cannot find those troll sounds, where can i find it?
I hope you're a writer by trade. . . Honestly, I have minimal interest in WoW lore (no disrespect) but , the witty storytelling and clever editing make it pretty entertaining.
Every troll tribe history:
-big empire
-get beat up
-sacrifice things for power
-get killed by players
rinse and repeat *
@@alihorda every fucking day lmao
They did fight the quiraji invasion-thingy... somehow.
@@Windowsprodukt Trolls stand at like 10ft tall, are highly agile & strong, can regenerate almost any would unless the wound is outright fatal e.g. decapitation. Possess an extremely powerful source of magic called Voodoo & at the time of the Qiraji war were comprised of many trolls from many different tribes. Lore wise they're incredibly strong, unfortunately Blizzard's shit writers just needed a random enemy.
@@TankManHeavy Mhm they are supposly to be stronger then say a human but somehow them humans pull out a win every time
11:44 "Trolls who ally with non trolls are weak" - the philosophy of trolls who do nothing but lose
"Trolls who do not ally with the player character are dead." -Observable fact
"Hmm... These 2 weak-ass tribes joined one of the major superpowers on Azeroth, they must be weaklings! Attack!"
*Proceeds to get decimated by Horde*
You'd think they'd learn something by now...
as an old head once told me. 'keep eating that pride sandwich and see how far you get. i've been eating it for 25 years now and look where i'm at.' he was a drunk and didn't give a damn about his lively hood but that man had some wisdom in him.
Anyone down for an expansion where our characters get wrecked
@@Skullivander it was called bfa
Gurubashi:*win a war*
All the other troll tribes: Is it possible to learn this power?
Not from a troll
@@emilhult3394 this made it even funnier lol
@Cegesh pfft. Good one.
@Cegesh the Empire of Zul doesn't count. So no.
@Cegesh it doesn't count because 1. Wasnt a single tribe, took the entire race to cooperate, something they would never ever be able to do again. 2ndly Victory in battle is not winning a war, 3rdly the witherbark never took over stromguard completely, they sacked part of it with the help of the boulder fist ogres, and that wasnt really a war, stromguard was decimated at that point, So no not even lowlife Forrest trolls like the witherbark won a war.
Every Troll story starts with "This tribe was incredibly powerful... but"
Medivh dropped a tactical nuke on them
Twice
Sad...
🤣
This rule applies to almost every tribe, expect Darkspear trolls
As a troll main and enthusiast… yes
Make Amani Great Again
I rp my troll DK as a Drakari. Short term he lost by fighting the player character, long term he won by becoming the player character
With the new cosmetic options you can definitely be one!
@@PsyrenXY if only they gave them a beefy build option too.
Aren't you alittle short for a drakkari troll?
@@LichlordKazam Just the same height as everyone else in this galaxy
How does that work lore-wise?
Keep in mind, without the trolls, the black empire would still rule over all of Azeroth. The trolls were the ones to beat back the aqir.
Pffft. Racist.
Without trolls no elves.
I mean, thanks trolls, you're cool, but we still need loot and land.
Yeahhh not really cool, they're "meh" at most.
And yes, without trolls no elves, and that's the main reason why i dislike trolls.
The Black Empire was destroyed by the Titans and their keepers well before the Aqir War. The Aqir War was instead started when Xal'atath tricked a Gurubashi witch doctor into waking up a slumbering C'Thraxxi general, who then killed the troll and led the Aqir against the Empire of Zul. So really, the war wouldn't have happened at all if it weren't for the trolls playing with dark power. And Xal'atath.
Trolls: We have an Army!
Prince Llane: I have a Medivh.
**queue badass Karazhan remix**
It occurs to me, the Drakkari may have been slightly influenced to be mistrustful of Paladin outsiders after helping a certain Arthas Menethil burn down some boats...
your uploads are actually a major highlight of my day
mine too! him and madseason are the only wow guys i watch
same!
Damn, that's sad
Hirumaredx isn’t bad either
heavenofmyhell same
I love how most trolls climactic fights end like this.
Trolls: Using numbers and tactics, we’ll win for sure.
Mages: haha, fireball go fwoosh.
And they NEVER learn that superior numbers and mundane tactics are NEVER going to win a war in a fantasy world were ULTRA powerful magic exists. Like seriously they need to look into using protection spells or wards so that their armies have atleast a smidge of a chance of not getting completely annihilated by stupidly overpowered magic nukes!
@@navilluscire2567 They can summon their gods. WHY DO THEY NEVER USE THIS?!
@@navilluscire2567 The amani try this once, but elves and humans just say "Hey buddies, what if we allied now?", creating the Kirin Tor in the process, bringing like 100 mages and making just a Medivh's scale nuke to annihilate the forest troll armies and the loa they have summons with them.
The lore like to fuck the trolls without any respect. Even when they came as a force to be feared, the opposing side pulls out his ass an even stronger magic that delete them.
and yet they can be mages!
@@garroshhellscream594 I mean, Loa are supposed to be so powerful... but yet it seems like everyone just kind of smacks them around with no trouble. Even the loa Rezan just kind of fell into the dumbest trap ever out of impatience. You know, a multi millenia old being who existed since the Planet does? Who should be wise beyond measure and composed and even a little bit jaded, certainly realistic enough to know that charging an enemy who is very obviously taunting you is a bad bad idea? And that's the KING of Loas.
All their other Loas either don't do shit, do the bare minimum, or just get killed off. Hell, their own people fuck them over, like the Drakkari, and the Loa seem entirely helpless somehow, despite Trolls acting like Loas will slit their throats if they don't do the daily tributes. Even goddamn Hakkar was a meme.
I just don't get Blizz's hateboner for trolls. I know it's probably just convenient to write them off as "easy enemies" because there's so many trolls... but couldn't we just have a huge Gnoll dungeon or something? Some humans or elves? Far as I know, the only human dungeon in classic is like... Deadmines and Stockades, two incredibly forgettable dungeons. Maybe Shadowfang keep if you count the ghosts, but I personally count them as undead. Why not just a renegade band of humans/elves practicing blood/dark magic? Come to think of it, no Tauren dungeons either. We already have the Grimtotem tribe - perhaps them. Though I'm not sure, been a while since I played vanilla endgame content.
Medivh hard carry as always.
A walking Nuke Vs. Cannibal satanists
Hmmmmmm..........
i cant stop laughing help
@@1un4cy yeah you need competent teammates to carry with medivh :
Until he turned
Yeah but that remix slaps tho
The Animations, the humour combined with teaching actual wow lore, damn dude this is amazing. Keep up the good work.
Well, at least the Gurubashi got all the way Stormwind and even killed a king. Not many can claim that.
That's a win 😁
the amani?
The Gurubashi conquered all of the kingdom of Stormwind except the capital in a couple days. And they would have destroyed Stormwind without much difficulty if it weren't for Medivh.
@@Froggeh92 The Amani didn't kill a king. They tried to kill King Anastarian Sunstrider, but got burned and tortured when the Old Horde abandoned that sidequest. The Gurubashi made it to Stormwind, killed the king and nearly destroyed it in a couple of days by themselves. If it wasn't for Medivh, Stormwind and it's territories would've been conquered by the Gurubashi.
Orcs killed the king of Stormwind too, granted they didn't have to fight wizard superman because he was fighting a psychic warlock and Warcraft Lucifer while fighting his friends on the physical world but still.
This makes me think of Starcraft 2 balance jokes. "Protoss almost won that encounter. Better nerf them!"
You forgot to mention that Darkspear tribe was almost genocided by murlocs. MURLOCS.
Have you seen the respawn rate on them Murlocs😂😂
Damn, trolls are dope and all but they do not catch a break, you’d think that because their race is so ancient that they’d have a variety of stories, but nah
Dude, don't be Racist, you can't just diss the Entirety of Sub Saharan Afrika like that.
Oh wait, this is about Trolls. Move on then.
@@alexander1055 based
@@alexander1055
I see u
They do have a variety of stories. About then losing though.
They do have a variety of stories, but it's like ice cream: many flavors most if not all made of dairy still. :)
“I like troll lore”
Troll lore:
Blizzard on how trolls are treated in lore
"Yeah well most of them are cannibals so they had it coming"
Forsaken are also cannibals and nobody seems to care XD
@@GabrielaPerez-tj9sb not to mention they are essentially the Warcraft equivalent to Nazi Germany
@@oluftheexplorer9476 By most of the WoW playerbase's admission… trolls weren't hot undead with tragic backstories.
Amazing video as always, it's just unfortunate you haven't talked about the Shadowtooth tribe, the last dark trolls in Azeroth who lived on Hyjal, fought alongside the Grand Alliance against the Burning Legion in the Battle of Mount Hyjal and then got completely wiped out off screen by the Twillight's Hammer in Cataclysm, with a sole dark troll remaining in Zandalar
I love how the Goblin kid is just a normal fricking goblin hahahah
What if hes not a kid at all ? Just a full grown adult goblin
Javier Morey Maybe they’re like hares or guinea pigs, the babies come out fully formed and walking with their eyes open and whatnot.
@@totallylost7683 goblins aint got time for tours, they out to get the bag
@@AntiqueBambi They come out of the womb and they already ripping off your cash
He's not though, that's the goblin child model.
The Darkspear succeeded mightily. Their Chieftain became Warchief of the Horde. Some of their heroes are the most powerful on Azeroth, and saved the world more than once.
And let's not forget the Dark Trolls. They found the Well of Eternity, mutated into elves, and became some of the biggest winners in the history of the world. Two powerful Alliance races and two powerful Horde races are descendants of Dark Trolls. Queen Azshara and all of the Naga are descendants of Dark trolls. Every interesting antagonist in the Burning Crusade expansion was a descendent of the Dark Trolls. One of the main antagonists of the next expansion is a descendent of Dark Trolls. The elves may not like it, but the history of the trolls is THEIR history.
Yeah, the only troll warchief lasted a single expansion where he didn't do absolutely nothing and died at the start of the next one.
Now, Dark Trolls were still alive as far as Warcraft III, I wonder what happened to them in WoW...
@@dmtbtm2809 Exposure to Arcane energy transformed trolls into elves. Were they a different race, or the same race that had been altered by exposure to a magical energy source?
Well, what shall we say about Akama, and the other broken? They were Draenei, but within the space of a single generation, they were transformed into completely different-looking creatures through exposure to fel energy. Did Akama belong to one race when he was born, and another race later on?I'm pretty sure that's not how races work. Akama may be called "broken", but he is really a Draenei who has been acted upon by fel energy.
And what about Sylvanus? She was, undeniably, an elf. But then she died, and was exposed to death magic, and became what she now is. One minute, she was a high elf, and the next minute she was a Forsaken (though the name "forsaken" had not yet been invented for her race). Is that how races work? Do people suddenly transform from one race to another? No. She may call herself "Forsaken", but she is actually an undead elf. She is an elf who has been acted upon by death magic.
When the dark trolls encountered the well of eternity, exposure to the arcane energy changed their physical bodies. At some point, these trolls decided to use a different word to describe themselves-elves. Apparently, at some point they also became ashamed of their troll ancestry, and sought to distance themselves from it. And yet, the ancestry remained.
The elves and trolls hated each other, and warred over land and resources. But this certainly does not imply that elves do not have troll ancestors. Trolls fight amongst themselves, and elves fight amongst themselves. So do humans. So do orcs.
Speaking of humans and orcs, these two races do not share a common ancestry. The humans have ancestors that were created by the Titan Khaz'goroth, whereas the orcs have ancestors that were created by the Titan Aggramar (in each case, they were created by Titans, not descended from them). A better comparison might be between humans and the Vrykul. These races definitely share a common ancestry, as the Vrykul were a more ancient race-predating humans. And if you trace the ancestry of any human back far enough, you will find a Vrykul.
And if you trace the ancestry of any elf back far enough, you will find a troll. And everything the dark trolls did prior to to the "Well of Eternity" event is part of elven past. I repeat, elf history is troll history. And that makes the dark trolls some of the biggest winners in the history of this game.
The elves know it, because they keep trolling the rest of us.
@@lhfirex Ha! Good one!
Night elves started indiscriminately killing trolls, even though they saved Azeroth.
After the genocide, the elves decided to have a party with demons.
That medivh remix is straight fire
We need an extended version.
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Having your narration be an actual character with a story, interacting with the environment, is a lot of fun. That was also a really sweet moment at the end, that captured what I love about the entirety of the trolls. All these people have terrible things happen to them, that they (mostly) don't deserve. In their fight to save their old homes, they don't learn new lessons.
there is a lesson in all this DONT FIGHT THE PLAYER
We are the literal gods
or Medivh
Anyone else down for an expansion where our characters just get wrecked? I’d be fine if it’s zul’jin in the shadowlands or something lol
@@Skullivander I would be more than happy about an expansion where player characters just keep on losing. I mean all player characters, not faction or race-exclusive, we just become losers for an entire expansion and the next one we start winning again but not easily.
We are the literal fucking god
The "Tail of Gun'Drak" always reminds me of Heyven Games. RIP Heyven, wherever you are.
Platinum, man I love your shit. I’m so glad you started putting out videos. You’ve never put out a bad one. You do great work, and we love you!
What an awesome tale.
lmao supreme nexus xd
Hakkar: “If I were a child, Platinum.. and a nice ancient loa demon came up to me and was like, 'hello child', I need your BLOOD so I can look young again...' you know what I'd do Platinum?"
Hakkar: (▪_○() "I'd give her the BLOOD, Platinum... SHE NEEDS IT!"
The reference: ua-cam.com/video/5KO2IjWI9fA/v-deo.html
Amazing reference
Nice
my 24 year old son forced me, his 54 year old mother, to watch this ... I was entertained, I subscribed --
Of all the times I did that instance I never realized the trolls were sacrificing their gods
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Warcraft is a pretty easily accessible fantasy universe. It's basically a casual every man's dungeons and dragons. Also, Platinum does help add some brevity to that with his silly humor.
6:16 when your max level friend carry you tru the old content
Can't wait to watch this a second time on bald stream.
come on doooood
I'm likening this so he sees it
And maybe a 3rd time when he uploads it on yt wich will probably be an hour long
Three DD he literally just did it. “There it is dude”
Can't wait to see baldgoblin react and give his input in form of Yes's, laughs, headbangs and other weird sounds
I can't stop replaying the part where Medivh starts dancing over the dead trolls
The freeing of Drakuru is by far my favorite quest line. He practically "befriends" you into freeing him, only for his story to finish in Drak'theron Keep and Zul'drak. Interestingly though, at the end of the dungeon you get to see Zul'drak physically change into a scourge foothold.
I love how insanely overpowered Medivh was. Like in theory he had all the possible magic of Azeroth at his disposal (thanks to Kara bein the center of all leylines) and it was the main key of the legion to undo him so that they can even attempt to invade.
Even a faint memory he made come to life was a seriously hard boss for the player character.
Even in the movie they portrayed him so terrible in compare to all the other content. I mean his half-blood offspring was so powerful he basically could spit atomic bombs.
I wish they portrayed him right in one of the caverns of time dungeons.. his opening of the dark portal was a seriously underwhelming terrible disguisting dungeon and I hate it.
I love seeing Jerma in other videos. He's grown so much in popularity. The most genuine and funny person on the Twitch/UA-cam IMO.
you know what Platinum despite the trolls downfall the Darkspears were the most succesful alive and kicking compared to the other trolls and also the raventusk so yeah moral pe the day is if youre allied with the horde ... u are also with the player character so no harm will ever come to you
Trolls cant catch a break in wow
poor guys
@Steve yeah like Vol'Jin getting stabbed, favoritism as hell
I really like the Lore Guide personality you made and the 1st person transition. It was very well done and a pleasant surprise. I would definitely be entertained with more. First time I've seen something like that in a lore vid
So... does someone know the name of the funky tune playing while medivh is doing his thing?
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@@PlatinumWoW HOUSE PARTY AT HAUNTED MANSION (feat. DJ NAUTILUS & PÉPÉ MUR-LOCK)
@@PlatinumWoW This actually bangs, and gives me some great nostalgia. Adding this to my "Good VGM music " playlist. Thanks Platinum! Almost reminds me of Justice †. 2010's were a good year for EDM...
Platinum has and will be my favorite wow youtuber. His humor, art style, and just overall talent has made me laugh my ass off for so long and it seems every video has gotten better, funnier, and just overall a great experience. From the Rag video, to the Zandalari, to ALL the tribes, even stories about the Darkmoon Faire. I have mad respect for your talent, Plat. See you at one mill, my guy.
You must put a TON of work into these and it really shows in the quality and presentation! Keep going man, you only look to be getting better!
Lmfao @ the irl arm part, idk why but that gave me the best tickle ever!!
What a legend, gets scalped himself and tells the kids to pay attention for educational purposes.
It's never too early to learn about it :3
all he needs is a priest and he will be fine!
Lol, at the second ad, it was About travelling to an exotic island with believe it or not troll like music in the backround. From a danish Company called Apollo rejser
Ok I need that Karazhan music remix
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@@ryuno2097 Nice, big thanks
@@nolikita you're welcome
Lol
"our differences are our strength"
"we must defeat the evil with friendship"
*gets brutally murdered by the people he protects*
Where have I seen this before lmao
Hey, this pill is a little red.
Based
Sweden?
0:27 that CGI tho
The trolls can be seen as an ancient empire slowly receding and dying away, while new cultures and civilisations are developing and thriving on their own way to supremacy. It's a bit unfair to compare the trolls at the end of their glory days with the developing powers of the new races with the added powers of the well of eternity.
At their peak the United Empire of Zul was the most powerful force ever seen in Azeroth. They actually beat back the combined forces of the olds gods and the united Qiraji empires in The Qiraji Wars. That means the united forces of the Qiraji empire in its glory days + the whole of the Nerubian empire + The klaxxi mantid lords + all the old gods forces and generals.A feat unsurpassed by any. The trolls were the most powerful empire of ancient Azeroth before the Kaldorei. But it has also become the most ancient and old, conquered by new times and new ways.
The fact that a few troll forces of power and recognition still lives on, several thousands years later, is a testament to the strength and endurance of the trolls. Though the ever flowing ebbs of time are slowly washing the last troll civilizations away. Unless they are willing to modernize and create new alliances like the Darkspear.
I did not expect to see Jesse Cox in this video. He looked like such a young baby at Blizz Con! Great video as always
Oh lord the icon has spoken 🙏🙏
And he has lost some weight since then. He doesn't seem to have a double chin anymore
Hey there is one happy story in this. The Darkspear tribe became the players, and thus the ones beating up the other troll factions.
Being a troll in Warcraft means to be trolled by your very existence. Still pretty nice race to play, not gonna lie. The best are troll hunters who hunt trolls while being trolls, 10/10 role play.
14:53 Is it me or does that skull look like its got funky eyes?
I'm so happy we have someone like Platinum in our community. This is goooold as always
That video from Blizzcon with Jesse Cox asking about the tail is a blast from the past.
really dragging them through the mud at this point, platinum
My character in a warcraft dnd game I played was a Gurubashi Shadow Hunter seeking to bring back Hakkar, I feel so bad for these fellas.
This is so well done! Great editing and storytelling! :)
Wow. You really brought out the lore of the troll dungeons ive run 10000 times. I had no idea what the backstory was. Awesome video.
The only time the Trolls dominated Azeroth was when they were literally the only intelligent life form. As soon as one of the tribes evolved into something not-Troll (Night Elves) they all fell and never recovered. Even then though, Trolls were so bad, that their descendants the Night Elves attracted the attention of the Burning Legion and were pretty much destroyed by the not-Troll newcomers, Orcs and Humans.
To be fair tho orcs and humans are both evolutions of titancreations made to destroy things the titans didn't like soo..
@@hulmhochberg8129 aren't orcs aliens from another planet?
@@golagiswatchingyou2966 yes but they are also descendents from grond who was created by the titan aggramar to fight the overgrowth on dreanor
@@hulmhochberg8129 ahhh interesting
Imagine destroying the black empire, paving the way for all other creatures on Azeroth to flourish only to be called losers.
Thank you plat for da content. I wish there was more but I understand you put time and love into your videos. Thanks!
Last time I was this early my wife was not pleased.
Same.
Third time watching this. Only now have i realized king Barathen said "Hewwo" in his speech to the people
I never noticed the snake tail before. The more you know
The opening of the Dark Portal isn't 70 years after the Gurubashi attacked Stormwind, because that would've meant that Llane, Lothar and Medivh were around 90-100 when Warcraft 1 began. Also, Vol'jamba's prohecy was right, since it involved Zul attacking and destroying Zandalar, that's why Zul wanted the players to silence him because his prophecy could've alerted Rastakhan of Zul's coming betrayal. Only reason as to why Vol'jamba's prophecy wasn't unfolded was because the players stopped Zul. And the Drakkari fought the Argent Crusade; not the Argent Dawn.
The entirety of Troll history is one long continuous Bruh Moment
What I learned? Always go to war with Trolls. If you don't then someone else will take their land.
Those kids are going to grow up into playable characters.
I appreciate that you painted your hand and nails for the video!
Here before the man with no hairline.
How original
Simp who shall not be named
Here before the spider mount drops for him in Mechagon.
Tho I'm sure I could have commented this even at the end of the next expansion.
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*Completionist stream AM I RIGHT GUYS?*
Asmon BTFO.
Bald
I didn't know that Medieval Disco Medivh was something I needed so desperately in my life.
5:55 I DIED
The Zul'Drak mystery tail is leftover from when the instance was going to be a raid instead of 2 dungeons.
Ahhh more troll history, man delivers.
Outstanding video, script and lore my friend! Thank you for your hard work
OMG THAT KARA REMIX WITH MEDIVH WAS FIRE!!!! I NEED A 10 HOUR LOOP OF IT MY GOD!!!
Please can I have link to full song? Searching like an idiot :/
@@daffyd1769 I want that remix also
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Listens to it 1000 times now😁 sooo good remix of both places👌🏽
@@daffyd1769 ah perfect thanks!
Heh, wrote a fanfic once about those necropolises shooting lasers. That's some bittersweet nostalgia.
Really enjoying these videos. Watched the Asmon reaction, but wanted to support your channel! I know they probably take a lot of time and hard work.
the remix on the them of kara playing when medivh appears is SO GODDAMN GOOD CONTENT .BEST video ever created!
We are not worthy!!!! Thanks Platinum
"And we haven't lost in fifteen god damn years!" had my side splitting.
Platinum is the most unique WoW content creator ever, for all time.
U Did a awesome cinematic like documentary. Keep up the good work. I love your Videos they high quality and i think all can See what work u put in That Videos.
Can we get a full version of that organ remix? :o
Edit: Link in description
Check the description
@@Ethox5000 O you right, didnt notice that at first - Thx
@@thewanderer_ii No Problem
OMG that edm Karazhan theme is dope. Please gib full version
These videos just serve as proof of Blizzard's crappy writing.All they ever do with the trolls is make them evil and turn them into loot pinatas or kill off their significant characters.
The old God Activision did it
Trolls are my favorite race but what you said is dumb. Is Lord of the Rings written poorly just because almost all dwarves are corrupt?, or because all orcs are evil? or because almost all hobbits are lazy buffoons? No. Stop circlejerking ya dummies.
I don't think it's crappy writing in of itself the concept that not every race is going to be prospering and have all the luck in the world, especially when there's fierce competition for limited land and resources and theirs dozens of sentient species all vying for dominance or atleast try to carve out niches for themselves. (doesn't mean they'll always succeed..)
It's less about making them evil and more like players can never truly lose because well players hate losing so ofcourse they're preordained to win everything and always come out on top even if that involves ass pulls or Deus Ex Machina. Pretty much any side the players are on is always going to be the winners when pitted against a NPC faction or group or individual no matter how powerful they are, no matter how much Blizzard says how clever they are nor how long they've spent planning out things, no matter how many contingencies they may have devised it'll all come to nothing when players are involved. The only time players might actually lose something (narratively and or even in-game content wise) is when it's players on one story faction vs players on the other story faction.
Me again. Sorry I know, sounding like a broken record but...
It's also to do with poor worldbuilding in regards to the implications of ULTRA powerful magic existing within the setting. Literally no one in-universe seems to understand, appreciate, and respect the supreme power of magic and magic (in its various forms) is quite frankly stupidly overpowered rendering pretty much any side that doesn't have their own bullsh*t magic get absolutely destroyed by other groups that do have ample bullsh*t magic. Things like tactics and logistics or even just raw numbers means NOTHING if magic is involved, so magic is the be all, end all of everything, if a commander of an army doesn't account for magic and accept its awsome power then they can never hope to win a single battle let alone a war. Ofcourse even if a faction accounts for and utilizes magic it won't matter the minute a named character with bullsh*t magic that's even more ridiculously ovepowed shows up such as the case with Medivh, the former guardian, characters like him render strategy irrelevant and turn capable leadership that isn't a major lore character into complete pushovers, basically getting *"warfed"* to show of a character's power level. (killing any tension in the story up to the point before they showed up)
Holy Crap that Medivh Karazhan remix isn't what I thought I needed in my life but its beautiful and certainly is a welcome treat. Not to mention the Dark Souls cameo with Jindo the Godbreaker, great video man! Very entertaining.
Also Malaka'raz isn't the final Drakkari that is living, it could be speculated that there are more in Northrend. And even if there is not, the Icetusk Tribe ARE Drakkari that simply fled Northrend when the Scourge first became a threat to their people, so they live on but under a different name.
i fucking love the choice of music for medivh pwonage moments
This is actually a great anthropology lesson. Reminds me of Discovery channel 2004-2010. I want more!
Amazing video one again. Another Jerma cameo, I love it.
I love the meme about everyone losing to the unbeatable force that is the player characters.. I mean it's true, but it's still funny
You single handedly hold the lore community up
The Medivh part is so goddamn good... What a brilliant character, and I say that as a pro horde player.
The Medivh part made me laugh so hard lol
I stopped playing wow prolly about a year and half, maybe two but almost 2 days ago i discovered this channel and i've been binge watching every video and oh man im back playing wow again thx to this channel. Keep it up dude, ur going big
6:00 Was I the only one left diasappointed when Blizz had forgotten to put the iconic Medivh theme music into the Warcraft movie?
Smh, they don't even care about their own lore anymore ...
The whole movie to me is just an advertisement to legion
this is easily my new favorite channel. I love your content dude!
4:46 Europe's third world immigration in a nutshell
Based. Heartwrenching, but based.
6:00 & 7:00 This Music Starts
Gurubashi Trolls: *"Why Do We Hear Da Boss Music?!??"*
What Blizzard did with Trolls always breaks my heart :/
I don't usually leave comments, but I had to this time - I adore your videos! Thank you for enlightening me on all the lore I've missed in such a coherent (given how much and how convoluted it can all be) and entertaining way!