The optional pour over burr does improve the Kinu's performance for coarser grinds! The Kinu can be easily disassembled without tools, so we'd say it's pretty easy!
You can learn more about the Kinu filter burr in this video: ua-cam.com/video/CQlcjQTQHok/v-deo.html. We didn't talk about the filter burr nor the Comandante Red Clix (an axle that increases grind adjustments) in this comparison because they are extras (in other words, they don't come standard with the grinders). If you already own a Kinu, though, and you want to use it for filter, the coarse burr is a must.
Kinu and Comandante instructions say not wash or immerse the grinder in water, but what will happen if I wash it occasionally? Will water corrode carbon steel burrs, cause some grease to seep out of the bearings or something worse?
If you need finer adjustment on Commandante, you can buy the Red Clix mod. Personally I have M47 Classic with an extra pourover Burr, but I have same opinion as you, it is capable for doing filter grind, but it's not optimal.
Does it take longer time to grind with the filter burr on m47 classic? For pour over I can do 20g in less than 60secs now (fine-med size) but yes, there's some fines. Does it happen with the filter burr?
@@madrian_hello I meant taste-wise, as the transparency (visually) also depends on the concentration etc. Though it is an oddly beautiful picture, I have to say
@@Cezve_340ml Yes, both grinders are capable of turkish grinding. Redclix won't allow the comandante to grind finer, it will only add more grind size options within the same grind range.
Depending on which electric grinders you're talking about, the grind quality will be very similar. The experience will obviously be much different though.
Any of the Timemore hand grinders would be great for grinding for French press coffee! Comandante would also be another great option. prima-coffee.com/manufacturers/timemore
@@CoffeeChannel Wow, ok, that's quite coarse. After cleaning, do you push the axle in until the spring resists, or all the way until the burrs touch? I do the former, so perhaps the zero point isn't quite the same
One thing I can't seem to find with these reviews is a more detailed diameter comparison between the two. I don't really have the biggest of hands and I've seen in some reviews about how the Comandante is pretty wide and can get tiring when grinding while the Kinu is narrower and can grind through coffee easier. How does the grinding feel between the two units? Will the Comandante be more tiring to grind in the long run?
The Comandante's diameter is not that big to be a significant con or make you tired of grinding. I’m a 168cm Asian with pretty small hands and I have no problems using it for more than a year already
With the customer support of the Comandante, the quality of the grind, the accessories that they offer.......it's a no brainer, Comandante all the way!
We agree. Kinu grinders are quality grinders. However, the burrs tend to struggle with dense, light roast (what some refer to as Nordic roast) coffees. They still can grind those coffees, but more effort is required to turn the crank arm.
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@@primacoffeeequipment Thanks, And Timemore Chestnut G1 has same problem ? There is too long crank handle
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@Stijn Spijker Yes, absolutelly no problem. Now i have Phoenix :-) Really smoth....
Yeah, you definitely failed on reviewing the Comandante accurately when you didn't mention the Red Clix axle upgrade so you can dial in finer adjustments. Prima coffee should've known that exists when this video was produced.
Thanks for watching, Adam, and for your comment! We always love to hear what equipment our viewers are using and why. We are aware of the Red Clix and will have it on the website in 2022. We did not mention it in this video, just as we did not mention the Kinu's pour over burr, because we wanted to compare the grinders as they are. We want our customers to know what they are getting when they open the box. The Red Clix is a great addition to the Comandante, as you say, but it does not come with the Comandante, just as the pour over burr is a great addition to the Kinu, but it does not come with the Kinu. Thanks again!
Don’t buy the Kinu! The catch cup stops working, and the company tells you to go to a hardware store for rubber bands. I’m not exaggerating, and I was not rude to them.
It's unfortunate, but the silver lining to this was that Prima only had the Lido grinders and the Option-O Remi available. Between those two companies I had to do my research and gauge if it was worthwhile to wait for a restock. I found a lot of advantages (given my needs) to the Lido ET which I had initially overlooked, and eventually settled on that (the positives for me are actually too many to list in a short reply here). But I feel like a lot of people who want a Comandante would actually be happier with the Option-O Remi, and am frankly surprised it's still in stock with Prima.
@@stirfryjedi i was able to get the Comandante from from Comandante USA a few days after this reply. I'm sure all these high end grinders have their strengths and weaknesses. I happen to like the glass (dishwasherable) jars on the Comandante and the overall short/squat nature of the thing. I do wish sometimes it had a big display on it saying 'i'm on grind click X' though :).
Loving my Comandante! It fits well with my black coffee setup. Their customer support and after sales is also a plus!
thank you finally i can decide on what to buy for my pour over coffee
Please review.
Red clicks on commandante with the kinu espresso
What about a pour-over using the replacement burr of the Kinu...does it perform better? Is it a hassle to switch it out?
The optional pour over burr does improve the Kinu's performance for coarser grinds! The Kinu can be easily disassembled without tools, so we'd say it's pretty easy!
Would love to see your review on kinu filter burr vs c40 in near future, maybe?
You can learn more about the Kinu filter burr in this video: ua-cam.com/video/CQlcjQTQHok/v-deo.html. We didn't talk about the filter burr nor the Comandante Red Clix (an axle that increases grind adjustments) in this comparison because they are extras (in other words, they don't come standard with the grinders). If you already own a Kinu, though, and you want to use it for filter, the coarse burr is a must.
Kinu and Comandante instructions say not wash or immerse the grinder in water, but what will happen if I wash it occasionally?
Will water corrode carbon steel burrs, cause some grease to seep out of the bearings or something worse?
We would just recommend they take out the center burr on occasion and brush it and wipe it with a clean towel.
If you need finer adjustment on Commandante, you can buy the Red Clix mod. Personally I have M47 Classic with an extra pourover Burr, but I have same opinion as you, it is capable for doing filter grind, but it's not optimal.
Does it take longer time to grind with the filter burr on m47 classic? For pour over I can do 20g in less than 60secs now (fine-med size) but yes, there's some fines. Does it happen with the filter burr?
Does the filter burr deliver a noticeably cleaner cup? I'm thinking of getting one and would like to know whether it's worth it
@@ISofyaMNajib yes, definitely longer. 20g about 2minutes, but it is also double as easy to turn the grinder.
@@lukastreuer8121 I am new to filter world, decide yourself: ibb.co/3Tk3gm1
@@madrian_hello I meant taste-wise, as the transparency (visually) also depends on the concentration etc.
Though it is an oddly beautiful picture, I have to say
Which is better keno classic coffee grinder or zpresso k-plus
Hi, thank you for the comparison! So, if my primary method is cezve requiring powder size grinding, you'd recommend Kinu grinder?
Also, how about addin red click system to Comandante? Does it helps improving the dialing in the finer range?
@@Cezve_340ml Yes, both grinders are capable of turkish grinding. Redclix won't allow the comandante to grind finer, it will only add more grind size options within the same grind range.
@@primacoffeeequipment thank you!
Hi Prima
Could teach how to clean oil smell before grind beans first time?
The best way to get rid of the oil smell is to grind beans. After a few uses you shouldn't be able to smell it anymore.
What about these 2 against electric grinders? Or against flat burr grinders?
Depending on which electric grinders you're talking about, the grind quality will be very similar. The experience will obviously be much different though.
Which grinder would be best for bigger grinds for French press coffee?
Any of the Timemore hand grinders would be great for grinding for French press coffee! Comandante would also be another great option.
prima-coffee.com/manufacturers/timemore
KINU hand coffee grinder is my favorite. Does a great job on my Aeropress
What setting do you use for the Aeropress?
@@lukastreuer8121 usually around 4.2
@@CoffeeChannel Wow, ok, that's quite coarse. After cleaning, do you push the axle in until the spring resists, or all the way until the burrs touch?
I do the former, so perhaps the zero point isn't quite the same
One thing I can't seem to find with these reviews is a more detailed diameter comparison between the two. I don't really have the biggest of hands and I've seen in some reviews about how the Comandante is pretty wide and can get tiring when grinding while the Kinu is narrower and can grind through coffee easier. How does the grinding feel between the two units? Will the Comandante be more tiring to grind in the long run?
The Comandante's diameter is not that big to be a significant con or make you tired of grinding. I’m a 168cm Asian with pretty small hands and I have no problems using it for more than a year already
Comandante is 62 mm in diameter -- i measured it for a stand design :). I find it bothers my hands less than the C2 with the all knurled exterior.
Will you review the new Timemore Chesnut X ?
Very nice review, I seen OE Apex behind 😀, would you do reviewing in the future or do some comparison with C40, Thanks in Advance ...🙏
With the customer support of the Comandante, the quality of the grind, the accessories that they offer.......it's a no brainer, Comandante all the way!
We love the Comandante too!
What about the Comandante Red Clix option?
I don"t understand - Why Kinu can"t grind light roasted coffee without stops ? This is quality grinder
We agree. Kinu grinders are quality grinders. However, the burrs tend to struggle with dense, light roast (what some refer to as Nordic roast) coffees. They still can grind those coffees, but more effort is required to turn the crank arm.
@@primacoffeeequipment Thanks, And Timemore Chestnut G1 has same problem ? There is too long crank handle
@Stijn Spijker Yes, absolutelly no problem. Now i have Phoenix :-) Really smoth....
Yeah, you definitely failed on reviewing the Comandante accurately when you didn't mention the Red Clix axle upgrade so you can dial in finer adjustments. Prima coffee should've known that exists when this video was produced.
Thanks for watching, Adam, and for your comment! We always love to hear what equipment our viewers are using and why. We are aware of the Red Clix and will have it on the website in 2022. We did not mention it in this video, just as we did not mention the Kinu's pour over burr, because we wanted to compare the grinders as they are. We want our customers to know what they are getting when they open the box. The Red Clix is a great addition to the Comandante, as you say, but it does not come with the Comandante, just as the pour over burr is a great addition to the Kinu, but it does not come with the Kinu. Thanks again!
thanks,,
buy comandante
Don’t buy the Kinu! The catch cup stops working, and the company tells you to go to a hardware store for rubber bands. I’m not exaggerating, and I was not rude to them.
I bought it. No issues. It came with 3 spare bands to replace for the cup rubber o ring as well.
and they're both out of stock :)
We should have the Kinus back in stock by the end of the month!
@@primacoffeeequipment Any update on that? I'm looking to purchase one before christmas
It's unfortunate, but the silver lining to this was that Prima only had the Lido grinders and the Option-O Remi available. Between those two companies I had to do my research and gauge if it was worthwhile to wait for a restock. I found a lot of advantages (given my needs) to the Lido ET which I had initially overlooked, and eventually settled on that (the positives for me are actually too many to list in a short reply here). But I feel like a lot of people who want a Comandante would actually be happier with the Option-O Remi, and am frankly surprised it's still in stock with Prima.
@@stirfryjedi i was able to get the Comandante from from Comandante USA a few days after this reply. I'm sure all these high end grinders have their strengths and weaknesses. I happen to like the glass (dishwasherable) jars on the Comandante and the overall short/squat nature of the thing. I do wish sometimes it had a big display on it saying 'i'm on grind click X' though :).