Chevy Fuel Evap Canister Fill Fix Filling Slow
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2017
- Slow filling gas tank problem Fuel Tank will not fill. Pump clicks off. I get mad! Takes 40 minutes to fill. Chevy Fuel Evap Canister Fill Fix Filling Slow... New Canister link amzn.to/3f29dIq
Taking Apart Charcoal Canister And Vent Relocation On 2012 Chevy Silverado Truck ua-cam.com/video/ASCLntCU0jQ/v-deo.html
Is there a reason you did this instead of running the water through then?
Just wanted to see what is was like inside and ran vent line so it would not clog again
Thanks bro
Really? We can wash the canister? Awesome! Should we wait for it get completely dried up before reinstall it back?
Really good video on this. Very detailed and you added in other possible issues. I'm saving this one. Thanks a million. Been having this issue. Pumping $20 worth of fuel was taking me 10-15 minutes
Damn..
The first video i've seen showing how to get the hoses off. Thank you.
The top hose broke because he should have pressed the clip in them pulled the house off. He tried to pry it down which broke it
a-1 auto shows you exactly this process but just replacing the canister instead of cleaning it
I was going to have to buy a new one anyway so I figured why not give it a try. It worked!! Saved me $80, thanks man
Did it hold up?
I did this last night and it worked like a charm it took me less than an hour. Thank you sir 👍🏽
Good deal
did you cleaned the same way and why was the reason
so did it throw a code ? Is this why you had to clean yours? Also if so did ur check engine light go out ?
how long fid this work for you flushing out the cannister
Thx dude - you gave me a great overview for this job - point of note - 2004 Yukon XL Denali is a POS job as the canister is above the spare wheel, the prop shaft, the diff, etc - but got there in the end...... there is a really good video by a 'dude' that explains how to split the connectors (probably the worst part of the job).
You made it look real simple and you can rejuvenate the old one great video thanks
Thanks
Almost bought a new one today. Thanks for the advice.
The explanation on removing the hoses was very helpful, thanks!
I stumbled on this video 5 years ago as my '05 avalanche was doing this exact problem. I did the cleaning once more 2 years ago so considering 2x in almost 6 years, I'll take the trade off any day until I decide otherwise. Great tip and tutorial 👍
Thanks
My 05
Avalanche is having this problem. I had the charcoal canisters replaced and lines backpurged and new valve solenoid and I still can’t put gas in it
@@TreyAydelette-qw4ctsame dude
I just checked on line for a new canister. $100 or more. Definitely worth my time trying to clean the old one out.
Just did this procedure on my 05 Envoy with a 5.3, I figured if its bad and needs replacing, why not give it a try. No more hard fill, or "P0446 EVAP Performance" code. The crap that came out was really nasty. Thanks a bunch!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, I will take care of my truck this way, my mechanic wants 550 for the labor of replacing the filter and solenoid.
Ruben Salais well do the work your self , I don't mean that in a bad way I just saying do it your self a save your self $550.00 , the mechanic who tested my 2005 Chevy Silverado 4x4 1500 told me what the part I needed and he said it would be $649.00 for labor plus the part ! I got the part for $32.96 and I did it my self and saved me the cost of the labor , just think about it , you can save your self a ton of cash
Here is another idea, buy a new canister and test disconnected solenoid for ohms. If none show on meter, replace solenoid. This is a hack and so is this guy.
@@hshsgjakanss I going to try that since my work truck is also started with the same problem, thanks for the tip
@@rubensalais1502 No problem, i just hate misinformation like this. Also, so you know, the "hard to get off" fuel clip, yea you just push it in and pull line off with ease. Hope i helped
@@hshsgjakanss thanks, I will do that this weekend
I have been chasing a slow fill issue for a while now, your video fixed my issue.
Nice
Thank you so much🙏🏼 for your free information brother 💪👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
God bless you 🙏🏼
Incredible production quality on this, at least the first 9 minutes, haven't finished it yet, but awesome video, thanks for sharing : )
I work for a company that makes canisters for GM, Ford and FCA. I can tell you that washing it out with water was probably a waste of time. The flow rate on those cans are typically 60-70 liters a minute. The fuel system that monitors the leak rate of the system and that monitors flow rate. Will cause a MIL light to come on if it falls below that flow rate or the total flow rate set by the manufacture after the canister is installed in the vehicle. When the company that I work for manufacturers these canisters. The charcoal(carbon) has to be dry in order to know that a canister is a good part based off the customer’s specifications for flow rate and leak rate. As a canister ages from my understanding. The charcoal(carbon) will eventually dissipate and or turn into dust. That is by design so that after 10-15 years you will need a new one. These canisters do have springs with retainers and felt in them to hold the charcoal inside the can.
I, guess the charcoal is desintegrated in black dust, and people think is so dirty and clogged, and using water or air will blow out the dust, but probably the carbon has a function, if desintegrated, the Canister is not doing the job properly anymore and should be replaced at some point.
I agree that the activated carbon has a life time base on refueling cycles. As you fill it, it gets warmer or hot. This is an “endothermic” reaction, as the hydrocarbons are absorbed. During purge, the tank vent valve is open, which defaults to open. This is when the problem happens. It is drawing in outside air. If you are a farmer in Iowa or live down a gravel road, the dust that’s kicked up goes thru the tank valve, thru the canister, around the activate carbon. Magic allows the hydrocarbons to release into the air with less or no gas in, then into the engine and burned. The PCM closes of the tank valve and if dirty, it leaks. Fails twice you get small leak code.
Tank valve have all shapes but adding a filter, moving with a good sealed hose, to a dust free location will help.
What sucks is the trend is to make the canister & valves all 1 part.
Near Dubuque, IA is a shop who does wash them out. However, he caps them off and places into a vacuum. This boils off the water at room temps. He has had decent success using the shop truck as $340 for a new canister was needed. He also tried a white sock over valve for filter. I am sure that some small engines use a round air filter inside a plastic canister. This would work great if hoses to the vent valve fit.
“Hey, Get off my Lawn”
Hot/cold cycle would more than likely break down activated carbon due to a little expansion & contraction, turn to dust and travel up purge line to valve, into engine. That’s going to leave a mark!! ;(
Your right, as a 40 year GM master tech, you are told this stuff as you progress through your training.
If i have rust in the solenoid is the canister bad or filler neck? Replaced soenoid and still have problem.
Yes I do agree with you as a mechanic. But these guys are just doing cheap fixes so they can fill there tank up faster. Lol
Thanks for this video as Im about to deal with mine & have put up with the slow fill all Winter, & now since I have the flexible fuel line leaking (poor design as the supply & return lie on top of each other so of course the supply is the one with the hole & not the return line, its up near the front cross member so I recommend checking yours and securing it "05 Yukon XL). You gotta love engineers as they use three different connections on the same device, at least they are easy enough to access.
I am disabled and it's heard for me to work on car or trucks like I use to , I use to restored Antique cars when I was younger but now that I have had Major back surgery that make me Worse it's very painful to work on cars but I do it Because I can't Afford to pay a mechanic , what took me two hours to do now , it takes me a day or more depending on what it is , my Neighbor will help me some times but he expect to be paid , I thought neighbor's and friends are supposed to do it out of the kindness of there heart , I know I have done that for my friends !! I helped my friends and I never asked for any money and if they offered I wouldn't take it that's the way my parents raised me , you don't charge friends and family
Hope you’re doing well Tom I’m sorry you haven’t had the best of friends or neighbors just know there are more of you and we know exactly what you mean people aren’t nice anymore but it’s important that those of us that are remain so
FROM CHICAGO THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH I HAVE A 2003 NISSAN PHATFINER WE CHANGED FULL PUMP COUSE IT WASN'T WORKING BUT AFTER WE CHANGED SERVISE ENGINE LIGHT CAME UP SO IM GOING TO WASH UP THAT BLOCK BOX
Muy excelente firma de explicación y muchas gracias.
I did try it same way as you explained and it worked l was able to put gas in the tank fine any way good video and explained video thanks good video l never put any comments but did good again thanks for good videos
Never have done this to any of my vehicles but did on a freinds 3500 five yrs ago. No issues as of yet.👍🏼
The clip that you mangled just pushes in on flat side towards the barb side, then you don't destroy the clip
EXACTLY! So dang hard to watch other guys explain it like their way is the right way and then insult the engineers while they’re at it. *cringe
After 60k miles and have to do it again, im happy thank you this saved me parts and labor. 🎉❤
Hope all goes well, thanks
GREAT VIDEO !! I had this issue on 06 Chev. Avalanche. NOT anymore. Did other checks and repairs to EVAP system. Thank you.
Thanks for this response Henry. I feel better that it will work on my 04 Avalanche. Great video High Octane. Appreciate it.
Thanks! I’ll get it while I’m doing the shocks.
Awsome video your the first one ive seen that had the balls to say clean check and inspect instead of pull swap and call it good this could also help u determine if the valve is stuck before dumping alot of money in parts u dont need
YO MY MAN HOW DARE YOU DO THIS? MAKING A VIDEO OF SUCH QUALITY THANK YOU VERY HELPFUL.
You are welcome 👍
Thank you for making this video!! Now I will try to clean mind...
I tried it with air and it worked ok. It was definitely better than before but now I'm going to try with water. I have a 04 suburban. Thanks
How did it do?
I will be doing this tomorrow rather spending 100s on a new one ! Thanks for the tips !
Great video! Finally someone shows how to remove the lines. But seriously, 3 lines, 3 different clip designs holding them on! Thanks sooooo much Chevy engineers!
Yep they try to make it as intimidating as they can I think
😂 they’re RETARDS!
Harder to mix them up that way?
Thank you on taking off the clips instructions .
Thank you so much for putting out this video! I thought I had no choice but to buy a new one for $250!
The van alone is barely worth that, haha
No problem, thanks
You’re a real trooper thanks brother
Definitely helped me with those darn clips , thanks
Great presentation and it really works. I fixed my gmc exactly as you showed in your video. The truck is running great and at the pump the only click I hear is when the tank is full. Thanks alot.
Thank You glad it worked for you. I know the pain of trying to fill a tank for 30 minutes and still never get it full
Is it still working fine?
@mohamedhosini2103 yes it is working great. I have filled the tank several times with ease and the error code disappeared day one and has not returned.
Thank you! I cleaned out mine and used a shop vac to suck out that tank vent hose…it was full of charcoal pellets. First and last time to have to do that fix. No smog inspection is required where I live so all good. Thanks again because I am sure this would have been $800 plus these days for the dealership to “fix”.
Yeah probably
You used a shop vac?? Were you concerned about the gas vapors ? Did it clean the hose out? @@HighOctane101
Fixed my filling issue, took about an hour vrs a a big bill, did not fix the engine light in dash tho.. Thanks for the video.
Disconnect battery and reset and try
I'm a mechanic and GM is always the worst with high mileage either the canister of the dump valve down under or up top or both thanks for the video Never clean one just change them LOL
For my case, at a discount it's 150$ for a new canister. I'd rather spend .15¢ on water and try this lol sucks sometimes that the more frequent items to fail tend to be the more costly.
i feel you. getting ready for a fuel cell and aftermarket fuel pumps
Awesome video thanks brah saveded me some headaches and 💰 A+++
Thank you for sharing the knowledge sir please have a blessed day. I have a 2000 GMC Safari van in this video has helped me greatly
Love your method. Great work.
Thanks
This solved the slow fill problem in my 2004 silverado 1500. Very helpful video. Thanks so much.
Still holding up?
Still works great 👍
Did you wash it out only? Or replaced the vent valve solenoid as well?
Did not replace valve just cleaned
What you truck did? Mines runs like no gas on the engine and shuts off or start shaking and rev down till motor goes off
Awesome - very simple and easy to understand video.
Glad you liked it
Nice camera work genius
Thanks bud I am gonna do this on my 2014 chevy z71 tomorrow. .it was really helpful...dam dirt
Did it work for you at all?
Time saver thanks so much, great video!!
C Pau Thanks glad I could help
Some people's comment are bad but they are the ones that don't like to take chances but I'm going to try it too tomorrow sense I got the gas tank out for the fuel pump and it was given me some issues filling up some times. If it worked for some people I'm definitely trying it too. 👍
Thanks bud
thanks for the very helpful video
Thank you for information.i did it on s10 chevy 2001 it really works it run better 😘😘😘😘
Thank you awesome helped out a bunch
Thanks for the very helpful video.
I hope you are kidding. This is about 96% misinformation.
But hey, if it works without spending the money on a new one... Lol
It worked awesomely!!
Thanks brother just saved me 300 dollars.
that's a good reverse flow
it did clean it i hope he can
dry it out ... used to soak
my air filter in soa[ and water
then rinse it,,,, blow it with air
... dry it and that would bemy spare
This worked for my 2007 Chevy express van. Thanks!
I'd just buy a new canister, but really good video otherwise! I'm in the process of removing my tank to upgrade the fuel pumps, so I needed a visual for removing the hose connections and this video did the trick! Thanks for saving me time and possibly breaking something out of frustration! Keep up the good work!
Thanks Rick
A canister is $200 so why not just clean it?
Great Video and Very Helpful. Thanks
HELPFUL FOR WHAT!! YOU DO NOT WET THE FUCKING CHARCOAL!! THATS WHY THEY FUCK UP BECAUSE GAS GETS IN AND WETS IT!!
@@mr.timjohnston546 are you a charcoal Nazi or what?
Hello zims. I did this ,this past sunday. And it saved me the headache to had to buy a new charcoal can.and i also checked the filter and everything was clean and the tips you gave us here what to look for. Was spot on. I have a chevy s10 2002 and the set up its very very similar to this . The hose clippings are a little better on mine then this clipping on this one on the video.i also did the water wash and then preassure clean it. So at least ! I know isnot the charcoal can or the filter valve overall this helpped me alot ! Not yo mention buying part i dont need and thenhaving to return it. Thanks a million !!!!!👍👍👌👏👏👏👏👏
LOVIT ! ! Great work.
That last clip you should push in on the middle of it.that releases
Thank you.
great White - that's correct. Imagine the clip as the shape of a horseshoe. Push 180 degrees from the open side. U < push from the bottom.
you're right squirting the water on the clips, dust fills the clips and the tabs wont compress, so squirt water, wait 30 seconds for the dirt to soften then blow the mud out with compressed air (works on dirty electrical connectors too) So now you've cleaned the canister but never cleaned the vent valve OR the really dirty foam filter. These were actually the problem. I think the 07 up vent valves were sealed, but the electric solenoid on the valve comes off so it could be flushed out too. The older ones had a removable lid to remove and a foam filter to clean. While you're at it relocate that hose and foam filter by the filler neck up to the engine compartment too. This is a major problem for all vehicles driven on gravel roads, something that even 4x4 trucks weren't designed to do.
Yeah on another truck I relocated the vent to the front of radiator. Working real good no issues anymore. I actually did a video of it too ua-cam.com/video/ASCLntCU0jQ/v-deo.html
Nice work good communication skills.
Thanks
Good video. My issue is that the pump not only clicks off, but gushes gas out all over the side of the truck. No codes. I would love to see what one of these canisters looked like inside!
Yeah this is definitely your problem I would say, had many that shot fuel out.
It’s worked for me , thanks for the help 👍
Glad to help
Excellent Video...THANK YOU.
No problem thank you for the great comment
See you confirmed what I always asked. Why not run to the air filter or have some kind of air filter box underneath. That way you can just change the air filter or clean it. Now I know what I'm fixing to do to fix mine.
Great video personally I appreciate it thanks for teaching us
DIDN'T TEACH YOU FUCK ALL!! YOU DON'T WET THE CHARCOAL TWIT BRAIN!!
Your caps are locked
@@mr.timjohnston546 stop being a charcoal Nazi
Thanks for the tip have a great day
You are welcome
Great video help!! thanks
I work for an automotive company in Alabama and I just so happen to make canisters and i'm telling you that you would never put water in it you can use like 45 Psi air pressure. But for the part to work correctly it must have a required amount of carbon along with the foam pads. We get an empty canister where pads are stitched along with a long filter which is rolled with foam also then it's put 8nto a machine that puts exactly the right amount of carbon for each space then more foam pads are put on top to trap the carbon then a bottom plate with springs for each space that has carbon is put into a heat welder that presses it all down to trap the carbon.. Duh! When I take it out the welder I shake the canister if you hear any rattling which is caused by either a missing pad or not enough carbon it means the part is no good. In other words it needs all its carbon my advice is just replace with a new one or eventually you will be in trouble.. It's made one way and that's the correct and only way for it to help your car keep it's peak performance. Hope it helps
Sincerely a welder in canisters at leehan America inc.
Ty
You sir are creating a bogus product!
NAPA sells lock tabs fittings orings i just did mine on GM fuel pump line.
Hint :dont fill fuel tank while engine is running and dont top off tank and try to keep putting gas in after pump nozzle clicks off.
Very good point
Thanks for the vid! If anything, most of the people commenting on this are not mechanics. I personally bought a new cannister, but I appreciate the step by step and description. Keep up the good work. However, I do have a question... should/can I blow out any of the hoses running to the cannister? New subscriber here.
Sir you have a wonderful question 👍
I'm sure you can but make sure none of the hoses are attached and make sure that if you are blowing it through a line with a valve, it does not break anything.. just be careful.
The last one you push in on center and it spreads clips to release it's so easy and no breakage
Thanks for the information, it should help me in the future. Thanks Again
No problem
Thank you you just save me a bunch of money
Anytime, thanks for the positive comment
Good info thank you for sharing. This is going to help me out alot.
ITS NOT GOOD INFO TWIT BRAIN!! WHEN DO YOU EVER WET DOWN CHARCOAL!!??
i think its pretty clean.. no more charcoal.. it just canister....lol
LMAOOOO yeah its clean, all harmful vapors are not being filtered..
FULL EVAPORATE CANISTER IWILL WASH IT UP REAL GOOD AND THANK YOU SO MUCH GODBLESS YOU
Thanks
Thank you,very encouraging .
Thanks
Good job thank you for share this video
Great Illustration.
I don't know if you can help but here goes. 2006 Chevy silver ado 1500/4.8 First code was P0442 Small Leak. put a new gas cap reset the code, 1500km or 900miles it came back. Changed the purge valve on the top front of the motor. now I get tighten the gas cap then the next time I start the motor I get the check engine light, P0455 Large leak after less than 400km or 240miles. Crown oil sprayed every year. mint shape, no rust. I'll look for the charcoal canister in the morning then try the water clean-out.
My god were you live that truck its dusty now i see why that canister had so much dust. Good job man 👍🏼
Thanks
WELL DONE 👍, THANK YOU
NO!! ITS NOT WELL DONE TWIT FACE!! YOU DO NOT WET THE FUCKING CHARCOAL!!
@@mr.timjohnston546 stop being a charcoal Nazi
Es todo mi guingo que barbaro gracias
Thanks uncle 🙏🙏
Kinda like backwashing a sand filter pool pump. Lol.
Thanks for the presentation. My Check engine light popped up recently.When I ran a scan on my car-Toyota Corolla 2006 model, it returned these codesP2401,P2419,P043F,P043E.It has stalled more than once on the road due to fuel pump failure.I have changed the fuel pumps .Kindly advise me on the way forward.Do I need to wash the Charcoal Canister or replace it?
I believe, maybe, the small horseshoe clip connector, which you broke the clip on, is actually supposed to be pressed IN, NOT removed ? The inward pressure to allow pull off the line straight off ?
Thanks for a gud demonstration 👍
You are welcome
this info was worth gold !! thanks!!
If you break any clips/Plastic tubing. Relax , 5/8 heater hose and $1 clamps
Good to know, thanks
I broke the tip of plastic tubing trying to pull the clip off so that’s great news good to know
Mil gracias😮😬👍👍👍
Very helpful video thank you appreciate you
Just install a NEW one there only $150 with a LIFETIME WARRANTY. so if/when it fails again go get a new one under warranty.
When you have a flooded charcoal canister, is the gas smell evident when the engine is off or does it happen only when the car is running or in idle? I am suspecting a faulty charcoal canister because of overfilling the gas tank once. I overfilled it but not to the point the gas was overflowing. I smell gas when I first start the car but not after a while. I don't smell gas when the the engine is off.
If the problem is actually a carbon canister flooded with gasoline, do you think taking out the canister and let the gasoline evaporate for a day or so fix the issue?
I have read that overfilling the gas tank can flood the canister and produce problems.
Cool! I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
You are welcome