I have only 3 mods on my 14 rubicon, winchplate, 10k X2O gen2 winch, and a 24" lightbar right above the fairlead. the lightbar is only tool for night wheeling, it has a multi color row of leds witch comes in handy for fog (orange), white out snow (yellow).
I'm old and immune to peer pressure. Some of my peers are, ah...elsewhere. Do you want a light bar? Then do it! If you don't, same answer! My jeep my choice! I pay the Bills. Screw 'm.
Yup, I think like you Ken....Now that i'm 60 I finally bought my first wrangler. To me, there is nothing more cool looking than a light bar. ROUND ONEs!
I'm buying a light bar so I can see empty spots in dark parking lots, specifically at auto zone when I go to buy wax and tire shine for my jeep. #DetailedNotDirty
I live in the sticks of southern Illinois, so it's actually my most used upgrade. I see deer before they even think of crossing the road, but you have to be vigilant about watching for on coming traffic
I'm fine with light bars if they get used My personal view is that everything that is put on a jeep should have a function and be used appropriately not just cosmetic
Everything that is put on your jeep maybe. You don't get to decide what other people do with their stuff. How often does a light bar have to get used for you to approve of someone buying one?
@@birish21 Ben asked for our views on light bars so I gave mine, I wasn't trying to make a decision for anyone. I made sure to specify that that is my personal view, everyone makes their own decisions and builds their own jeep. I dont have a need for one so I don't have one, but I have nothing directly against them.
There are many off-road vehicles but Jeeps are so popular because of the aesthetic look and customization options so I strangle disagree that EVERYTHING has to have a functional purpose. But light bars are lights so even if it’s for cosmetic purposes you can always use them in emergencies. You never know when you may need to use them
All I can say to all the Mall Crawlers out there is "Thank you!". If it we're not for you and your generous purchases to upgrade the look of your rig, all the folks that fancy themselves as hardcore off-roaders would not be enjoying the economic benefits of ECONOMY OF SCALE...We all are better off when Tens of thousands of Mall Crawlers drive the cost down and drive the markets to provide a variety of products with which we can choose between a $10 pod light or $1200 light bar. Cheers from South Central Pennsylvania!
I live in a VERY rural area and use my 50" bar and rigid duallies a lot and love them. I also wheel the Hell out of my JKUR so it's no mall crawler. I think people are insane though that spend $1,600 in a rigid light bar.
I use my light bar alot when off-roading on my ranch, the whistling drove me nuts but 6 bucks in window weather stripping worked great and no more whistling
I run off in the woods solo alot...I love my 50 inch light bar. Never really had anyone say anything negative about it...but like someone else said...why would I care what someone else thinks about what I pay for? Oh and for the noise...just a slight tilt forward stopped that. Reach out and rock it back a notch when using it off road.
I like the look of light bars personally. They can be useful on dark back roads, which there are no shortage of here in Ohio. But, even if you are not going to use them, so what, it's your jeep, you can do whatever you want to it. If someone has something to say, they can pay your jeep payments and pay for all the mods themselves.
I don't use a 50" like that but I do use my Pod floods and a 20" on my front bumper on the beach at night. It's freakin' dark and you don't want to hit a hole where someone dug for a bonfire, extra lighting is a must
new jeep owner here, please be nice: can someone tell me how lightbars affect battery when the jeep is turned off? My lightbar can still turn on even when the jeep is off, should i be concerned?
I have one and I use it for those country roads at night so I can see the deer or hogs in the road. I really don't care if others don't like them because it's my jeep and that's the great thing about owning a jeep you can fix it up like you want it. Down here there isn't that many places you can go trailing. im not a hard core wheeler also.
I'm actually ditching my windshield mounted 50" and going with a 20" mounted to my fairlead. I get a ton of glare off the hood (white JKUR), and it's unusable without perfect conditions.
Personally I just prefer lights mounted on the bumper (no glare that way) and in most situations smaller lights there are still plenty for back road and trail cruises at night. Had a 50 in on a cherokee years ago and almost never actually used it due to the crazy glare. My jk has pods on the bumper and I use them at least every week or so.
Even though my (wj) is primarily for trail riding and is trailered most of the time, it is however insured and registered just in case I need it to be on public road ways. (My wj IS NOT a mall crawler). With that being said, I have light bars all over this weekend trail basher. I have found myself in the past, down in a holler at some far away off-road park at night with just headlights. So I started adding light bars and l.e.d. flood lights. In all I have 3 forward facing light bars, (in various sizes) and eight 4 inch by 4 inch flood lights attached to the cargo rack placed in specific spots where I can see clearly in 360 degrees (if needed). I know the importance of high powered lights on the trail. I use mine for safety of myself, my riders, and others that might be on the trails at night. I don't however think that light bars should be used on public roads. OFF ROAD USE ONLY.......
My lightbar comes in very handy out on the farm at night. I went with a cheap amazon one and found that if you install it upside down it makes almost no noise. I’ve had it up to 85mph but can’t hear a thing. No other modifications added other than flip it upside down.
I love mine. Let me start by saying I’m not a rock crawler or a mudder. I’m a nature and wildlife photographer who uses Jeep to get from here to there... which often is not great terrain. That said, I’ve never used my lockers and never used my winch ( though have used snatch strap and shovel ). Heading to middle of nowhere before sunrise and staying at location after sunset, I do a ton of driving in the dark. It would be almost impossible without my light bars. I’ve even photographed wildlife at night using them.
Not a fan of light bars as you rarely if ever use it and the added wind noise and whistling makes it a no go , the whole mall crawler term is beyond ignorant as most Jeeps never go offroad and most don't have the time or trails near them , factor in work family etc and trails fall way down the list
Use ditch lights, pods in my bumper, and rock lights that's plenty good for night wheeling. I think having smaller more compact lights for night wheeling is ideal. Now if you were out west in wide open areas and traveling at speed I could see them being more useful. Personal preference is all it is for most.
I hate that group, its full of people of who make fun of other people's build and don't mess around and ask a question about anything if your a novice.
Because some people have no life and have to worry about others. If not why do they care it's not their money so there's no reason to care. Some people have no life and their jealous of others thats why others with light barsa come out of their mouth. If not they keep your mouth closed and don't talk about others if it you're not jealous because your not paying for it
i think lightbars can be useful and worth your money for whatever use you use it for.they only thing i hate is when im driving and i see other jeeps driving w their lightbars on it annoying cos you can barely see.
I use mine to shine fields for people fire hunting on my property. It really makes them crap their pants and it gives them a deer in the headlights perspective all of their own. I have caught several peskie teenagers in the act and it resulted in nice conversations with their parents.
I actually prefer the look of round lights too. But with my Rigid light bar, I can park in my garage. Which is nice because I drive topless 99% of the time.
Every Mod that I have done to my JK was for function. IDGAF what anyone's opinion of any of my MODs might be. If you have spent the money to MOD your Jeep then you shouldn't care what other people's opinions are either. (Note: I listen to suggestions with articulate justifications...they haven't changed my mind, mostly because, it's not an affordable option such as Dana 60's)
In non-dusty environments I'm sure they are fine. I had a light bar on my 66 Bronco back in the 80's and turned it on once. I lit up the trail dust so bad I couldn't see past the hood. Took them off the very next day. I can only imagine in snow conditions overhead light bars have a similar effect. Now almost 40 years later (wholly crap) I am finally getting back to wheeling and have a JLU, and am looking at various lighting options. I'm curious to read others' serious comments/insight to light bars before going that direction as there are some nice ones out there that thrown down some serious illumination for a clear dark night condition. I'm thinking a combination of front driving lights, A-Pillar lights, and an overhead light bar all supplementing each other is the way to go. If you can only choose one, I'd go with front mounted driving lights since they won't blind you in dusty conditions.
Check out my video I did on “why people hate Lightbars” Before you make a final decision. I would look at a good set of amber lights. I will be installing some on my jeeps in a month or so.
I looks great 👍🏼 I will take your advice in my 98’ TJ, I just got a month ago, and I’m fixing oil and maintenance first, then I’ll put some good headlights, and later a light bar too. I’ve just joined in that group, Jeep Wrangler Enthusiasts 🤘🏼
I confess, some time ago I moved my pod lights from the windshield down to the bumper because I didn't like the glare on the hood. Still haven't wired them up.
I love my rigid e2 hyper sport bar. I actually do a lot of night wheeling. And like to play in the hay Pastures at night. It sounds like a damn jet engine when going down the road. It’s a must to have those rubber “silencers” that goes on the fins of the back of the bar.
New Subscriber... Sooooo.... Headlights..?? What do you have.? Any suggestions..? Currently stock. Wanna Upgrade... How do you like the ones as seen in this vid..??
I live in BFE Oklahoma i dont have street lights on the back roads, i damn near made mutton a few times this past year because the stock lights suck. So yes i own a light bar and yes it gets used on the dark ass back roads.
As someone who got a Jeep used with light bars I love them. Adds a nice touch to the Jeep. Personally I don’t use mine on road cause I’m not trying to blind others let me know what y’all thing
I went on a group ride with a new group. The trails were wicked tough, several got stuck, several had to be winched out, one even flipped. It rained like hell, all the muddy wheel ruts were filling with water and turning to slime, but we made it to the end and some pics were posted on FB. Despite being among the few who never pulled cable and never got stuck, some internet badasses who couldn't be bothered to make it out saw my Jeep in a few of the pics and asked "who's the noob in the mall crawler?". That's why I don't give a flyin f$%k what people think of my lightbar.
we do have cowl lights on the JK but i have not yet found the need for anything on our JL with the LED option, im feeling cowl lights would be what id lean towards again, and i have thought possibly some front bumper cubes. oh wait, i forgot about my lights that JCR put in my sliders, not a light bar but kinda mall crawlish right??
Once you stop worrying about what everyone is thinking; you’ll notice how liberating your life will be…What do you think”? Really? Who gives a shit what other people think. Hopefully one day you’ll pull your head out of your butt, and live your life, do whatever you want to “YOUR JEEP”.
It isnt that i dont like them, i just have a classic Jeep, a Grand Wagoneer, and light bars on a older truck like this dont look right at all. Id rather have the 4 6.5 inch round lights on the roof and the 2 on the brush guard i have. Ive seen these Jeeps with light bars and it just looks wrong. Only downside to the classic light is they are Halogen, so they use alot of power 600watts for the 6 i have. I could upgrade to 120w bulbs too for more brightness, but honestly after using them and testing out in dark areas the 100w are just fine. Had to upgrade my alternator from the factory 74amp to 150a. And yes i know they make round classic looking but leds.. but again the LED lenses just look weird.. i like the smooth shiney lense of a classic light. As for price my lights were only $14 each, so i spent only 84$ for them, i did the wiring myself using my own wire, those premade harnesses you can buy are usually too small of a guage wire cheaply made, ive seen pics of them causing fires.. its better to unspool wire and do it yourself. Also light bars will lower gas mileage, my round lights lowered my mileage on the interstate by 1-2mpg. Meaning i went from 13 to 11.. For me already getting bad mileage that means on a 20 gal tank i lost 50 miles of driving, for a Jeep that gets better mileage than me like a wrangler that can get 20mpg... That 18% reduction could mean 3.6mpg, for a say 20 gal tank thats 72 miles less.. thats starting to become really noticable. Now the only LEDS i do have on the Jeep would be interior lights of course so i can actually see in my Jeep lol, and for outside i did install two led/flood pods on the rear of the roof rack so i can have a basically 360 view of my Jeep if i wanted. But hey i drive a Wagoneer, my opinion doesnt matter to wrangler owners, because youre all snobs anyway lol
I don't mind light bars. I think they're very purposeful. I hate what people do with them. Driving down the street with it on. Small penis syndrome. I don't care where you drive your jeep, mall, highway, trail etc. Follow traffic laws, offroad use only. Stop blinding other people driving
I personally don't like them on MY vehicle.... That said, I don't care if others run them. I don't like them for me because I worry too much about rolling over... Give me some good old KC Hiliters any day
I love lights period. Lights on a Jeep are awesome! Think of your Jeep as your outfit. Your shoes and socks are your wheels and tires. And your lights are your jewelry. It’s the Bing! Having light is awesome. And you never know when you need it, till you need it! It’s allows you to express yourself though your Jeep, an opportunity to be original. And buying lights helps fund the industry. Which anytime you can help the people who share the same passion is you, is an awesome thing! I say who dies with the most lights wins! Who cares if it’s a mall crawler, what’s wrong with malls? I’ve picked up a lot of hot chicks at the mall back in the day.
What do I think.... I think I don’t care what anyone else thinks. I can’t stand “elitists” that truly believe that everyone just HAS to like and dislike, or even HATE, everything that THEY say. It’s only cool if THEY say it is.
Personally, I don't like mods that only look cool. If I don't use it I generally won't put it on the jeep. I agree though, people should do whatever they want to THEIR jeeps! Jeeps are like snowflakes, no two are alike. Facebook haters can suck it.
I feel it's like every honda civic with a coffee can exhaust. I don't like it, cause I feel like every jeep has a light bar. Even stock looking jeeps have them. I get it tho, it's affordable.
IMHO, I like them on y rig. I have small spots under bumper in front (switched) and small floods in the back (under bumper) for aux back ups. (wired into back ups with a relay. Both sets are for visibility. Future plans for a roof mount light bar, but other things first. Just added 31"s on my mostly stock 95 Cherokee Sport. Now it's getting a 3" lift. As always, great content and thumbs up!
Personally don't care for the light bar , just updated my headlights to H4 with Optilux Xenon White XB 12V-80/100W bulbs just as much light , no issues for the past 8+ years & not blinding to oncoming traffic ..
So my 2017 Wrangler JK came with a lightbar. It hummed/whistled. So I got that Aerolidz clear plastic cover. It doesn’t hum/whistle anymore however now the light is diffused……… any help out there? Do KC Hilites hum or whistle?
Never owned a Jeep before. I know this video is a few years old now but i just bought a 2012 jk sport unlimited 4dr RHD. Im a USPS rual route carrier in the middle of Oklahoma & it gets dark out there during the winter seasons. Need to see them address. Plus if i ever get stuck when it's dark im going to want to light up that situation as much as possible. So, a mall crawler my rig won't be. Great information on this video. Thank you👍
I don't feel like the a more expensive the setup the more quiet it'll be. The aerodynamics remind me of my noisy ass roof rack. Thanks for bringing that up. I longer want one.
In reading the comments, I guess it's where you live. 3 days after purchasing my Wrangler, someone said "Ah you bought a MallCrawler!" I wanted to throat punch him ~he didn't know me! My beauty now has the 52 with Aerolidz silencer, a 20 and the pod lights (because the mount looked stupid without them). When I am driving the backroads of Western KY, I use them ~ heavy deer population! And Yes, I think they look good too. My Jeep, My money, My Choice! My Bail Money if you don't like it!
Hi from Australia. Jeeps are not so common here but, the jeep's I see out on the trails and tracks are usually, very modified, 2-3 inch lifted suspension, bar work(front steel bulbar with winch, brush guard's/rock slider's/side steps and a steel rear bar with two spare tires or a spare and a fuel can) So cool looking, LED lightbar's are legal here but not above the height of the hood, so, not mounted of roof rack or above the wind shield. A friend in need sold me his mint condition 3.7 petrol 2003 Jeep Cherokee limited for a very small amount of money. Please, don't hate on me for owning a diesel powered HZJ 75 series Toyota Landcruiser already. I had no idea what I was going to do with it. The fellow living a few houses down from me asked me why I had it when I already have the HZJ. I explained. He said his daughter was looking for a vehicle. so... I offered it to him for the same money I paid for it. He nearly fainted when I told him the price. In American money, $2,500. The new owner of the Jeep has made some changes. Better suspension, all terrain tires, transmission oil cooler, and so on. The Jeep gets used off road often. Thank you for posting this.
Dude! Stop waving your hands and arms around. Turn the volume off and then watch it. It's hysterical. Try zip tying your hands to your belt and then make a video. I bet you can't do it. BTW, you had less than 30 seconds of darkness! For a video about lights???
I live out in the country away from any cities (closest major city is almost 1 hour away) and most of the driving I do is on dark 2 lane blacktops and gravel roads. I use mine to help me see any animals on the road (usually a 2000 lb cow) that would possibly total my rig. As others have said if they are not paying my note then they have no say it what mods I do.
I think ppl need to mind their own damn business. I have a lightbar(which broke lol) and some cubes on my winch, and on bottom of my windshield; on my 2010 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Islander. I also have a 4 inch lift and 35's. Front Bumper and winch. I don't care if some other person likes what i do or don't do with my Jeep(which happens to be my 4th CJ/TJ/ &JK; 3 Cherokees. I like having my light bar and extra lights when it's pitch dark in the Missouri woods. I was really happy when i was rolling down the Interstate and ran into a monster downpour from a tornado. I was able to see my way to an overpass. Cops there said they saw me coming a mile away lol. Most of the ppl talking trash online don't even own a Jeep... Who cares what trolls say. Not me.
Damn..guess I'm a mall crawler..I just bought a jeep wrangler that's been geared up with everything. Lift kit, tires, light bars, wench..tow hooks..I plan on taking it off reading but working three jobs and only have friends who own sports cars..no fun in going alone
OKAY... 3 mins in and we get it... it's an easy upgrade (3x) and new bolts look better than rusty bolts, we're convinced, I promise- we get it. install the light already! ;) that being said- the 50" light bar is a necessity when setting up camp at night and night rides along the thousands of miles of logging roads in northern maine & canada.
I live in Wyoming and I actually do Uber. Often I bring people back out to their ranches. I have A LOT of auxiliary lights. Four bars and four pods with two other pods in the plans. I have upgraded my headlights, fog lights, and DRLs. From driver’s door to passengers door looks like daylight and gets thrown down the dirt road very far. Tons of deer and antelope out here so the more light I have, the better. It’s cheap insurance for my vehicle that is not only my fun Jeep but a money maker. Cheap insurance.
Just put my lift on... after bumpers, sliders, and hood led bar. I beat the crap out of my TJ on the rocks when I was stock height. Especially night rock crawling with my buddies who were lifted before me. So even though my a light bar was one of my first mods.. my fuel tank, steering box, tcase skid plate and oil pan say I’m not a mall crawler haha. But I suppose I could have just upgraded my factory Tj headlights and got the same results ...
I have a 26" Quadratec hood mounted light bar (spot/ flood combo), and 4 Rigid cubes (2 spots, 2 floods) on windshield mounts. I live out of town where there are no street lights, and use them frequently. They also come in handy when some asshole won't dim their high beams :) The hood mounted light bar actually cut down on wind noise around the windshield surprisingly. I'm not a big fan of the huge 50" light bars on everything though.
I'm new to this Channel. Its pretty good. One thing though. Why do you always say on almost every video "I know its a pretty boring video"...Is there a confidence issue there? I don't think there boring at all. I learned a lot so far!!
P.s. I would never buy a light bar from Amazon or spend 100 dollars for one. You get what you pay for with a light bar! I bought mine from quadratec for 500 and it came with a free(and cheap lol) windshield mount. It has no glare on the hood and no extra noise from wind. 28000 lumina! So it's a good purchase but only after you've spent good money on armor and recovery first
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Light bars are fantastic for skiing what I do, lots of driving at night on mountain roads.
Helps me drive to the mall at night
I have only 3 mods on my 14 rubicon, winchplate, 10k X2O gen2 winch, and a 24" lightbar right above the fairlead. the lightbar is only tool for night wheeling, it has a multi color row of leds witch comes in handy for fog (orange), white out snow (yellow).
put door trim on the cooling fins on the back. The noise will stop
In Canada it is ILLEGAL to run these on road, regardless of weather, not sure about the states. Off-road they are nice.
I'm old and immune to peer pressure. Some of my peers are, ah...elsewhere. Do you want a light bar? Then do it! If you don't, same answer! My jeep my choice! I pay the Bills. Screw 'm.
Yup, I think like you Ken....Now that i'm 60 I finally bought my first wrangler. To me, there is nothing more cool looking than a light bar. ROUND ONEs!
It serves a purpose so I am fine with light bars. Angry eyes are another story though. Especially the ones with lashes.
Light bars are for queers
I'm buying a light bar so I can see empty spots in dark parking lots, specifically at auto zone when I go to buy wax and tire shine for my jeep. #DetailedNotDirty
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I need my light bar so I can easily find Macy's and Dillards
Noting wrong with keeping the jeep looking good in between holes n hill's
I live in the sticks of southern Illinois, so it's actually my most used upgrade. I see deer before they even think of crossing the road, but you have to be vigilant about watching for on coming traffic
Im from Southern Illinois also...them white tails can ruin your day!
I'm fine with light bars if they get used
My personal view is that everything that is put on a jeep should have a function and be used appropriately not just cosmetic
Everything that is put on your jeep maybe. You don't get to decide what other people do with their stuff. How often does a light bar have to get used for you to approve of someone buying one?
@@birish21 Ben asked for our views on light bars so I gave mine, I wasn't trying to make a decision for anyone. I made sure to specify that that is my personal view, everyone makes their own decisions and builds their own jeep. I dont have a need for one so I don't have one, but I have nothing directly against them.
@@birish21 @ least a dozen times or no more jeep wave for them.
There are many off-road vehicles but Jeeps are so popular because of the aesthetic look and customization options so I strangle disagree that EVERYTHING has to have a functional purpose. But light bars are lights so even if it’s for cosmetic purposes you can always use them in emergencies. You never know when you may need to use them
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I just prefer the old school look of the round lights on a jeep.
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They just don't look good, I would do Baja design round lights..
Plant-Based MD KC for me!
Also the round lights with the stock grill not those cheesy ones
Same here. Went with KCs with yellow smiley covers for the extra old school. 😁
Light bars are a necessity for navigating those darkened parking lots. 5 out of 5 stars.
Makes Mall Crawling at night a breeze!
Said the people that are to scared to OFFROAD at night
@@JeffLenneyYou sound like you are a expert on mall crawling
All I can say to all the Mall Crawlers out there is "Thank you!". If it we're not for you and your generous purchases to upgrade the look of your rig, all the folks that fancy themselves as hardcore off-roaders would not be enjoying the economic benefits of ECONOMY OF SCALE...We all are better off when Tens of thousands of Mall Crawlers drive the cost down and drive the markets to provide a variety of products with which we can choose between a $10 pod light or $1200 light bar. Cheers from South Central Pennsylvania!
I have one because I'm blind.
And it's an outlet mall crawler.
I live in a VERY rural area and use my 50" bar and rigid duallies a lot and love them. I also wheel the Hell out of my JKUR so it's no mall crawler. I think people are insane though that spend $1,600 in a rigid light bar.
I use my light bar alot when off-roading on my ranch, the whistling drove me nuts but 6 bucks in window weather stripping worked great and no more whistling
I run off in the woods solo alot...I love my 50 inch light bar. Never really had anyone say anything negative about it...but like someone else said...why would I care what someone else thinks about what I pay for?
Oh and for the noise...just a slight tilt forward stopped that. Reach out and rock it back a notch when using it off road.
I like the look of light bars personally. They can be useful on dark back roads, which there are no shortage of here in Ohio. But, even if you are not going to use them, so what, it's your jeep, you can do whatever you want to it. If someone has something to say, they can pay your jeep payments and pay for all the mods themselves.
I wouldn’t mind that I get a modded jeep and they get to mod a jeep lol
It's the fact their blinding people retard
I’m in Ohio. Got any good trails you can share?
I don't use a 50" like that but I do use my Pod floods and a 20" on my front bumper on the beach at night. It's freakin' dark and you don't want to hit a hole where someone dug for a bonfire, extra lighting is a must
I hunt in very remote areas and my lightbar helps illuminate the road to make sure i can see all the deer crossing the road
new jeep owner here, please be nice: can someone tell me how lightbars affect battery when the jeep is turned off? My lightbar can still turn on even when the jeep is off, should i be concerned?
Ben... You must be bored.
Jeep Gear & Gadgets can you upload mom tyvm
Theres one lightbar that i love on any jeep, its the KC Hilight light bsr but its like 2 grand 😂😂
Took mine off. White jeeps and over windshield light bars are a bad combo.
Oh yeah I’d imagine a horrendous amount of glare
I have one and I use it for those country roads at night so I can see the deer or hogs in the road. I really don't care if others don't like them because it's my jeep and that's the great thing about owning a jeep you can fix it up like you want it. Down here there isn't that many places you can go trailing. im not a hard core wheeler also.
Right on!
I'm actually ditching my windshield mounted 50" and going with a 20" mounted to my fairlead. I get a ton of glare off the hood (white JKUR), and it's unusable without perfect conditions.
You just talked me out of a roof set up. I've got ditch and bull bar lights and wanted top lights but that glare will be ridiculous.
Personally I just prefer lights mounted on the bumper (no glare that way) and in most situations smaller lights there are still plenty for back road and trail cruises at night. Had a 50 in on a cherokee years ago and almost never actually used it due to the crazy glare. My jk has pods on the bumper and I use them at least every week or so.
Even though my (wj) is primarily for trail riding and is trailered most of the time, it is however insured and registered just in case I need it to be on public road ways. (My wj IS NOT a mall crawler). With that being said, I have light bars all over this weekend trail basher. I have found myself in the past, down in a holler at some far away off-road park at night with just headlights. So I started adding light bars and l.e.d. flood lights. In all I have 3 forward facing light bars, (in various sizes) and eight 4 inch by 4 inch flood lights attached to the cargo rack placed in specific spots where I can see clearly in 360 degrees (if needed). I know the importance of high powered lights on the trail. I use mine for safety of myself, my riders, and others that might be on the trails at night. I don't however think that light bars should be used on public roads. OFF ROAD USE ONLY.......
My lightbar comes in very handy out on the farm at night. I went with a cheap amazon one and found that if you install it upside down it makes almost no noise. I’ve had it up to 85mph but can’t hear a thing. No other modifications added other than flip it upside down.
I love mine. Let me start by saying I’m not a rock crawler or a mudder. I’m a nature and wildlife photographer who uses Jeep to get from here to there... which often is not great terrain. That said, I’ve never used my lockers and never used my winch ( though have used snatch strap and shovel ). Heading to middle of nowhere before sunrise and staying at location after sunset, I do a ton of driving in the dark. It would be almost impossible without my light bars. I’ve even photographed wildlife at night using them.
Not a fan of light bars as you rarely if ever use it and the added wind noise and whistling makes it a no go , the whole mall crawler term is beyond ignorant as most Jeeps never go offroad and most don't have the time or trails near them , factor in work family etc and trails fall way down the list
I am in the function group when it comes to light bars. Yet again another great video Ben. have a great day.
Use ditch lights, pods in my bumper, and rock lights that's plenty good for night wheeling. I think having smaller more compact lights for night wheeling is ideal. Now if you were out west in wide open areas and traveling at speed I could see them being more useful. Personal preference is all it is for most.
I hate that group, its full of people of who make fun of other people's build and don't mess around and ask a question about anything if your a novice.
That's why I'm just going for a 20" bumper light bar with A pillar pods. Simple, inexpensive, and it'll work without the noise, laws, or stigma
Haha indeed, its all you need 👌
Because some people have no life and have to worry about others. If not why do they care it's not their money so there's no reason to care. Some people have no life and their jealous of others thats why others with light barsa come out of their mouth. If not they keep your mouth closed and don't talk about others if it you're not jealous because your not paying for it
If you’re not point with a group keep the damn thing off. That’s the biggest problem with people that are proud of this upgraded
i think lightbars can be useful and worth your money for whatever use you use it for.they only thing i hate is when im driving and i see other jeeps driving w their lightbars on it annoying cos you can barely see.
I use mine to shine fields for people fire hunting on my property. It really makes them crap their pants and it gives them a deer in the headlights perspective all of their own. I have caught several peskie teenagers in the act and it resulted in nice conversations with their parents.
Simple Life bahahah that’s great.
I loved mine I live on backroads so it helps alot then it died 3 years later lol
Personally I prefer the look of the circular lights over light bars, and that’s why I won’t get a light bar for my Jeep.
My thoughts exactly. Round lights on my JK.
KC Gravity Pro6 is the beezneez
I actually prefer the look of round lights too. But with my Rigid light bar, I can park in my garage. Which is nice because I drive topless 99% of the time.
Casey D That makes sense honestly. I don’t have a garage personally, but that would be a good reason to do a bar instead.
+1 for round lights
This is funny timing. I just won a 30” Auxbeam light bar that I will be putting on the ZJ truck from Muddy Beards 4x4.
Love our KC Gravity Pro6 light bar. Nothing else compares. We use it as often as we can.
I LOVE all my LED lights on my Wrangler! More light isn’t bad at all guys.
I don't have a light bar since I don't off-road at night, but I wouldn't judge anyone who has a light at, whether for off-road or just for looks.
perfect accessory for spotlighting deer rolling down the road
Every Mod that I have done to my JK was for function. IDGAF what anyone's opinion of any of my MODs might be. If you have spent the money to MOD your Jeep then you shouldn't care what other people's opinions are either. (Note: I listen to suggestions with articulate justifications...they haven't changed my mind, mostly because, it's not an affordable option such as Dana 60's)
and I don't have a light bar lol
Fucks people's opinions its your money do what you want with it.
In non-dusty environments I'm sure they are fine. I had a light bar on my 66 Bronco back in the 80's and turned it on once. I lit up the trail dust so bad I couldn't see past the hood. Took them off the very next day. I can only imagine in snow conditions overhead light bars have a similar effect. Now almost 40 years later (wholly crap) I am finally getting back to wheeling and have a JLU, and am looking at various lighting options. I'm curious to read others' serious comments/insight to light bars before going that direction as there are some nice ones out there that thrown down some serious illumination for a clear dark night condition. I'm thinking a combination of front driving lights, A-Pillar lights, and an overhead light bar all supplementing each other is the way to go. If you can only choose one, I'd go with front mounted driving lights since they won't blind you in dusty conditions.
Check out my video I did on “why people hate Lightbars”
Before you make a final decision. I would look at a good set of amber lights. I will be installing some on my jeeps in a month or so.
I looks great 👍🏼
I will take your advice in my 98’ TJ, I just got a month ago, and I’m fixing oil and maintenance first, then I’ll put some good headlights, and later a light bar too. I’ve just joined in that group, Jeep Wrangler Enthusiasts 🤘🏼
I don’t know I just think it’s the Jeep Bro look it’s cheap looking when I see the KC lights I think that’s a real light bar
Pointless for because I put my windshield down a lot and put a pad on mine and set mine and my buddy’s bows on it when we hunt. 👍🏻
I confess, some time ago I moved my pod lights from the windshield down to the bumper because I didn't like the glare on the hood. Still haven't wired them up.
I don’t mind them, but I will be taking my one off soon, and replacing it with classic looking hella rally lights
I think light bars look so badass and I want to instal one on my Jeep when I buy it
I have aux lights on my t j , but because my daughter drives it a lot I have them on a relay so they only go on in 4 wheel drive
My opinion is you care too much about others opinions.
Nice Jeep, hate lightbars. Just my opinion, to each their own.
Had a lightbar.. took it off due to noise
Light bars rock!! Looks awesome on your jeep
from the auto glass installer side of it i hate them
I love my rigid e2 hyper sport bar. I actually do a lot of night wheeling. And like to play in the hay Pastures at night. It sounds like a damn jet engine when going down the road. It’s a must to have those rubber “silencers” that goes on the fins of the back of the bar.
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Headlights..??
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I live in BFE Oklahoma i dont have street lights on the back roads, i damn near made mutton a few times this past year because the stock lights suck. So yes i own a light bar and yes it gets used on the dark ass back roads.
As someone who got a Jeep used with light bars I love them. Adds a nice touch to the Jeep. Personally I don’t use mine on road cause I’m not trying to blind others let me know what y’all thing
I went on a group ride with a new group. The trails were wicked tough, several got stuck, several had to be winched out, one even flipped. It rained like hell, all the muddy wheel ruts were filling with water and turning to slime, but we made it to the end and some pics were posted on FB. Despite being among the few who never pulled cable and never got stuck, some internet badasses who couldn't be bothered to make it out saw my Jeep in a few of the pics and asked "who's the noob in the mall crawler?". That's why I don't give a flyin f$%k what people think of my lightbar.
Most of these I see are used as assault weapons on other drivers!
Yep
Just installed a 50" LED on my wrangler. Has amber lights that can be used on road also. Super bright in the trails at night. Love it!!!
we do have cowl lights on the JK but i have not yet found the need for anything on our JL with the LED option, im feeling cowl lights would be what id lean towards again, and i have thought possibly some front bumper cubes. oh wait, i forgot about my lights that JCR put in my sliders, not a light bar but kinda mall crawlish right??
Once you stop worrying about what everyone is thinking; you’ll notice how liberating your life will be…What do you think”? Really? Who gives a shit what other people think. Hopefully one day you’ll pull your head out of your butt, and live your life, do whatever you want to “YOUR JEEP”.
Its ok, you can say it. Lightbars are for mall crawlers
It isnt that i dont like them, i just have a classic Jeep, a Grand Wagoneer, and light bars on a older truck like this dont look right at all. Id rather have the 4 6.5 inch round lights on the roof and the 2 on the brush guard i have. Ive seen these Jeeps with light bars and it just looks wrong. Only downside to the classic light is they are Halogen, so they use alot of power 600watts for the 6 i have. I could upgrade to 120w bulbs too for more brightness, but honestly after using them and testing out in dark areas the 100w are just fine. Had to upgrade my alternator from the factory 74amp to 150a. And yes i know they make round classic looking but leds.. but again the LED lenses just look weird.. i like the smooth shiney lense of a classic light. As for price my lights were only $14 each, so i spent only 84$ for them, i did the wiring myself using my own wire, those premade harnesses you can buy are usually too small of a guage wire cheaply made, ive seen pics of them causing fires.. its better to unspool wire and do it yourself.
Also light bars will lower gas mileage, my round lights lowered my mileage on the interstate by 1-2mpg. Meaning i went from 13 to 11.. For me already getting bad mileage that means on a 20 gal tank i lost 50 miles of driving, for a Jeep that gets better mileage than me like a wrangler that can get 20mpg... That 18% reduction could mean 3.6mpg, for a say 20 gal tank thats 72 miles less.. thats starting to become really noticable.
Now the only LEDS i do have on the Jeep would be interior lights of course so i can actually see in my Jeep lol, and for outside i did install two led/flood pods on the rear of the roof rack so i can have a basically 360 view of my Jeep if i wanted. But hey i drive a Wagoneer, my opinion doesnt matter to wrangler owners, because youre all snobs anyway lol
I don't mind light bars. I think they're very purposeful. I hate what people do with them. Driving down the street with it on. Small penis syndrome. I don't care where you drive your jeep, mall, highway, trail etc. Follow traffic laws, offroad use only. Stop blinding other people driving
I personally don't like them on MY vehicle.... That said, I don't care if others run them. I don't like them for me because I worry too much about rolling over... Give me some good old KC Hiliters any day
I love lights period. Lights on a Jeep are awesome! Think of your Jeep as your outfit. Your shoes and socks are your wheels and tires. And your lights are your jewelry. It’s the Bing! Having light is awesome. And you never know when you need it, till you need it! It’s allows you to express yourself though your Jeep, an opportunity to be original. And buying lights helps fund the industry. Which anytime you can help the people who share the same passion is you, is an awesome thing! I say who dies with the most lights wins!
Who cares if it’s a mall crawler, what’s wrong with malls? I’ve picked up a lot of hot chicks at the mall back in the day.
What do I think.... I think I don’t care what anyone else thinks. I can’t stand “elitists” that truly believe that everyone just HAS to like and dislike, or even HATE, everything that THEY say. It’s only cool if THEY say it is.
Personally, I don't like mods that only look cool. If I don't use it I generally won't put it on the jeep. I agree though, people should do whatever they want to THEIR jeeps! Jeeps are like snowflakes, no two are alike. Facebook haters can suck it.
I put my light bar on the roof directly behind the windshield. I have never suffered any glare or wind noise.
Where you get your light bar. I was thinking the same thing
I feel it's like every honda civic with a coffee can exhaust. I don't like it, cause I feel like every jeep has a light bar. Even stock looking jeeps have them. I get it tho, it's affordable.
IMHO, I like them on y rig. I have small spots under bumper in front (switched) and small floods in the back (under bumper) for aux back ups. (wired into back ups with a relay. Both sets are for visibility. Future plans for a roof mount light bar, but other things first. Just added 31"s on my mostly stock 95 Cherokee Sport. Now it's getting a 3" lift. As always, great content and thumbs up!
BTW, great video Ben!! Not boring at all.
Personally don't care for the light bar , just updated my headlights to H4 with Optilux Xenon White XB 12V-80/100W bulbs just as much light , no issues for the past 8+ years & not blinding to oncoming traffic ..
So my 2017 Wrangler JK came with a lightbar. It hummed/whistled. So I got that Aerolidz clear plastic cover. It doesn’t hum/whistle anymore however now the light is diffused……… any help out there? Do KC Hilites hum or whistle?
Never owned a Jeep before. I know this video is a few years old now but i just bought a 2012 jk sport unlimited 4dr RHD. Im a USPS rual route carrier in the middle of Oklahoma & it gets dark out there during the winter seasons. Need to see them address. Plus if i ever get stuck when it's dark im going to want to light up that situation as much as possible. So, a mall crawler my rig won't be. Great information on this video. Thank you👍
I love my lightbars. I go in the woods pretty often at night and I can see everything
I don't feel like the a more expensive the setup the more quiet it'll be. The aerodynamics remind me of my noisy ass roof rack. Thanks for bringing that up. I longer want one.
In reading the comments, I guess it's where you live. 3 days after purchasing my Wrangler, someone said "Ah you bought a MallCrawler!" I wanted to throat punch him ~he didn't know me! My beauty now has the 52 with Aerolidz silencer, a 20 and the pod lights (because the mount looked stupid without them). When I am driving the backroads of Western KY, I use them ~ heavy deer population! And Yes, I think they look good too. My Jeep, My money, My Choice! My Bail Money if you don't like it!
Hi from Australia. Jeeps are not so common here but, the jeep's I see out on the trails and tracks are usually, very modified, 2-3 inch lifted suspension, bar work(front steel bulbar with winch, brush guard's/rock slider's/side steps and a steel rear bar with two spare tires or a spare and a fuel can) So cool looking, LED lightbar's are legal here but not above the height of the hood, so, not mounted of roof rack or above the wind shield. A friend in need sold me his mint condition 3.7 petrol 2003 Jeep Cherokee limited for a very small amount of money. Please, don't hate on me for owning a diesel powered HZJ 75 series Toyota Landcruiser already. I had no idea what I was going to do with it. The fellow living a few houses down from me asked me why I had it when I already have the HZJ. I explained. He said his daughter was looking for a vehicle. so... I offered it to him for the same money I paid for it. He nearly fainted when I told him the price. In American money, $2,500. The new owner of the Jeep has made some changes. Better suspension, all terrain tires, transmission oil cooler, and so on. The Jeep gets used off road often. Thank you for posting this.
Dude! Stop waving your hands and arms around. Turn the volume off and then watch it. It's hysterical. Try zip tying your hands to your belt and then make a video. I bet you can't do it. BTW, you had less than 30 seconds of darkness! For a video about lights???
I live out in the country away from any cities (closest major city is almost 1 hour away) and most of the driving I do is on dark 2 lane blacktops and gravel roads. I use mine to help me see any animals on the road (usually a 2000 lb cow) that would possibly total my rig. As others have said if they are not paying my note then they have no say it what mods I do.
lol i love them when i get my truck on the road im gonna do full 360
I think ppl need to mind their own damn business. I have a lightbar(which broke lol) and some cubes on my winch, and on bottom of my windshield; on my 2010 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Islander. I also have a 4 inch lift and 35's. Front Bumper and winch. I don't care if some other person likes what i do or don't do with my Jeep(which happens to be my 4th CJ/TJ/ &JK; 3 Cherokees. I like having my light bar and extra lights when it's pitch dark in the Missouri woods. I was really happy when i was rolling down the Interstate and ran into a monster downpour from a tornado. I was able to see my way to an overpass. Cops there said they saw me coming a mile away lol. Most of the ppl talking trash online don't even own a Jeep... Who cares what trolls say. Not me.
Damn..guess I'm a mall crawler..I just bought a jeep wrangler that's been geared up with everything. Lift kit, tires, light bars, wench..tow hooks..I plan on taking it off reading but working three jobs and only have friends who own sports cars..no fun in going alone
I just got my 2 in Teraflex leveling kit next is my light bar 😭🤣
Dude shoot me another message on IG to remind me about your stuff lol
OKAY... 3 mins in and we get it... it's an easy upgrade (3x) and new bolts look better than rusty bolts, we're convinced, I promise- we get it. install the light already! ;)
that being said- the 50" light bar is a necessity when setting up camp at night and night rides along the thousands of miles of logging roads in northern maine & canada.
I live in Wyoming and I actually do Uber. Often I bring people back out to their ranches. I have A LOT of auxiliary lights. Four bars and four pods with two other pods in the plans. I have upgraded my headlights, fog lights, and DRLs. From driver’s door to passengers door looks like daylight and gets thrown down the dirt road very far. Tons of deer and antelope out here so the more light I have, the better. It’s cheap insurance for my vehicle that is not only my fun Jeep but a money maker. Cheap insurance.
Just put my lift on... after bumpers, sliders, and hood led bar. I beat the crap out of my TJ on the rocks when I was stock height. Especially night rock crawling with my buddies who were lifted before me. So even though my a light bar was one of my first mods.. my fuel tank, steering box, tcase skid plate and oil pan say I’m not a mall crawler haha. But I suppose I could have just upgraded my factory Tj headlights and got the same results ...
Honestly they come in handy at times if you're wheeling at night or if you're doing a recovery at night.
I have a 26" Quadratec hood mounted light bar (spot/ flood combo), and 4 Rigid cubes (2 spots, 2 floods) on windshield mounts. I live out of town where there are no street lights, and use them frequently. They also come in handy when some asshole won't dim their high beams :) The hood mounted light bar actually cut down on wind noise around the windshield surprisingly. I'm not a big fan of the huge 50" light bars on everything though.
Unless you do a lot of night wheeling....whats the point??...do ya really need to lite up the entire mountain....🚙💜💕
I'm new to this Channel. Its pretty good. One thing though. Why do you always say on almost every video "I know its a pretty boring video"...Is there a confidence issue there?
I don't think there boring at all. I learned a lot so far!!
I love light bars. Those that don't I guess don't appreciate the glory of outlaw night ridin' and huntin'. 🤷🏻♂️😆
P.s. I would never buy a light bar from Amazon or spend 100 dollars for one. You get what you pay for with a light bar! I bought mine from quadratec for 500 and it came with a free(and cheap lol) windshield mount. It has no glare on the hood and no extra noise from wind. 28000 lumina! So it's a good purchase but only after you've spent good money on armor and recovery first
Sorry but it's just been bugging me for too long.....
The word "especially"
is pronounced "eh special ly"
NOT "ek special ly".
Rant over