I use "Ospho". Very common in the Merchant Marine community. We deal with rust on the regular since we are on steel ships on saltwater. It is a constant battle. Ospho is a rust converter. Available in quart and gallon sizes at any Westmarine or boating supply store.
I'm in the maritime industry also and we use that. We also use a product called enrust. It's a rust converter as well. All you need is just a little flash rust for it to convert to a coating and it works well.
@@bayouboattrash We one more thing the guys call "600". Not sure what it's real name is. But it is a rust encapsulator. So if you are doing a job, needle gunning, sanding, or whatever, and you can't finish that day, you mix this 2 part encapsulator. Kind of like an epoxy. It hardens and turns clear. You can paint over it. But it does not kill rust. It prevents it from forming in the first place when you have to expose bare metal on a project and are worried about exposure to the elements (sea spray or what have you)
I can understand how that would work. I used to like to chip the area free of rust, enrust it to convert the rust after it flashed over, then use a product similar to dimetcote (it's like a two part zinc primer), two part epoxy primer and then top coat. I've always had favorable results working in the Gulf of Mexico like this. Of coarse we did this while we were at the dock.
I am from New England- the homeland of brutal rust. We use Fluid Film on our EMS vehicles. We can keep ambulances and fire trucks rust free for decades by keeping them clean and using Fluid Film to protect them.That stuff is THE BEST preventative measure.
@@tetelestai1919 Roger that! I see some frames for sale online, pieces by pieces -i was wondering if those are the parts? it’s a NH car, seems like they had coated it istead of fixing it
Love all your videos. Don't worry about not showing wheeling. Your service, maintenance, repair, upgrade videos are always worth watching. Very informative. Keep 'em coming. Thanks
The fluid film is great! A lot of shops will apply it for you, it can be bought in bulk and sprayed through a spray gun. That's much more cost-effective than buying the individual spray tans. I had an off road shop in RI do my '13 4Runner, it was a hundred bucks and they did everything from the floor pans down. They had different wands and nozzles, so they were able to get inside the frame rails as well. I plan on having mine done every season. It does smell like feet, but the smell wears off in a few days Before I had the fluid film done, I sanded ieverything down with a wire wheel on a drill, and coated it with two coats of Rust Bullet, with a top coat of Rust-Oleum from a can. I bought it used last year and it had a good amount of surface rust on the frame that I did not like. Being a Toyota, which are notorious for frames rotting out, I wanted to take care of it ASAP. I don't think the dust sticking to it or the WD-40 is a bad thing, it just adds more of a protective shell, haha. I have a friend with a 98 4Runner that's lived its whole life in Massachusetts, he does the WD-40 coating a few times a year and it looks like brand new underneath. I would recommend against that rubberized undercoating stuff though, all that does is trap moisture and what not underneath it. You may have more rust forming again and you won't realize it till that stuff flakes off with the metal.
on my YJ owned since new have no rust (western canada) - key to success is keep at it, frame I drilled 2 bottom holes per frame rail about 5in pre and post skid plate, on my 04 LJ did same except I filled each rail with evapo-rust first (about 1.5L a rail- non flamable - non corrosive - environment friendly rust converter) and drove around with it in the rails for couple weeks then drilled it like YJ, rinsed out good and eastwood internal frame coated them ... on LJ also drilled rear most frame crossmember and sand ran out of it like an hour glass :)
Fluid film is great stuff. I use it on my Jeep, Waverunner, cast iron power tools etc. Lowes sells it for $9/ can. (Takes 1.5 cans for the jeep) Amazon sells it in 3 packs for a discount
I buy fluid film by the gallon, about $40-$45. I live in Pa near Lake Erie so we get tons of snow, ice and salt. I spray my vehicles end of every summer.
I bought my 86 CJ7 Renegade brand new off the lot. Within three years it was starting to rust on the quarter panels. I washed that vehicle every week and garaged it. I’m hoping my aluminum body JL last longer.
Fluid Film user in northern Canada. Yes you need to reapply every fall but my frame and axles look damn near new come spring. Project Farm even crowned it the best.
I bought an '03 TJ last fall. The frame and body are very solid, but the first thing I did was address some surface rust issues (frame, floor pans, etc.) Very pleased to find out I used EXACTLY the same products, and the same process as you did. I really enjoy your channel, and especially Cassie's channel, because I'm a TJ guy!
I love your videos. I live in NW Indiana and I do allot of frame repairs. Been a auto technician for over 20 years. I would never use rubberized undercoat on any of my customers vehicles as it traps moisture. Also it's always a good idea to clean inside the frame after wheelin and eastwood makes a cool product called internal frame anti-rust for inside the frame rails kills the rust from the inside . Keep the videos coming.
@@jorgen5501 he's right about undercoating if you think there might be any traces of rust left. In that case if you got to bare metal I'd use some rust converter, throw a light coat of paint on it then a bunch of fluid film over it. If you're doing a proper repair and have all clean metal then rubberized undercoating is the best product to use, all the well rust protected oem cars use it, but quite obviously oem's apply it on brand new metal with no chance of rust, hence why they have better results than people spraying their used vehicles. The best thing about rubberized undercoating is that it seals the metal really well which makes it prevent moisture and salt from contacting the actual metal really well the impact resistance is also really good so it doesn't chip off, however it's sealing capabilities is also the worst thing about it because if any rust or moisture is trapped underneath you're done for. It's not a joke I personnaly fixed fist sized rust holes in cars that at first glance only had a 1/4in spec of rust, but after chipping the undercoating off there was a big hole.
I do exactly that but a little more... Perhaps a few more... I wash out all inner frames with a special hose I made to go into the frame holes and rinse out till its all cleared... then, after all exposed metal frame is treated and covered I treat the inside frames with WD 40's special long lasting rust neutralizer formula with another special hose, sprayer and nozzle that can get into and coat the inside... I also apply it to any exposed holes that were drilled out either from factory or bolt on applications then also the insides where my drain plugs are located and where salt from wet boots can collect on the carpet and floor pans... I would never ever use undercoating especially if it was done on humid days no matter how hot it was outside as it traps in moisture... keep it clean, keep it shielded and keep it visually seen... can't see rust under that under coating till it bubbles.. Im an RV Tech/ jeep owner/ mechanic/ auto body tech taught in both europe and Our good old USA as An Army Brat and somehow living up here in PA dealing with road salt... I perfected my method for this side of the USA and just need to share... oh, it also helps when beach fishing on the East coast... if you do these things I explained, you too will have a jeep everyone else keeps wanting to buy from you... and no, I won't sell her... lol
Thanks a ton for this. I have a solid condition xj and I wanna keep it that way. Not many places around Chicagoland that care to help me with that without charging upwards of 700$.
Hi, thanks for the video. Another tip if you don't daily drive your 4x4 , don't park in gravel or grass. Humidity rises and will affect the whole underbody and frame.
i just did this the past 2 weeks on my JK, very time consuming but we are in the perfect time for it. Made my jeep look brand new even though it’s not that old
I have used that Rust-Oleum rust reformer on my old tj a few times it works really well. I just make sure I let it sit for a day or two and then use some kind of top coat.
I use cosmoline spray on my Jeep where I can easily spray it. Fluid Film for hard to reach areas. Cosmoline doesn't spray off nearly as easy, and doesn't attract dirt like Fluid Film does. Also, I've heard that the rubberized undercoating will allow water to get under it if there is any scratch or nick in it, and accelerate rust.
My JT got the Fluid Film its first couple of days on the road. It still looks new underneath even after I'd driven through flooded areas many times here in Houston. When I traded in my JK Rubicon the dealership wanted to know how my 2012 was still in excellent condition. Top dollar trade!$$$$
Ah fluid film, good stuff! We use it on our helicopters in the coast guard. Mainly on hardware, keeps moisture and salt off of the attachment hardware.
Great video! Might I suggest to everyone, safety first! Always invest in a great pair of safety glasses and possibly a good mask. When working in tight quarters ~ like under your Jeep~ overspray goes everywhere. 👍🏻
So so true!! Once I was waiting for an eye exam and I overheard the ophthalmologist with a patient in the next room who was a car mechanic that had gotten a metal fragment in his eye. The guy was yelling in fear as the doc told him to stay very still while using a magnet to extract the metal. Then I heard the doc tell him that luckily it was a type of metal that removed easily with the magnet otherwise he would have had to attempt to pick it out of his eyeball with tweezers or possibly perform surgery. The final thing he told the mechanic was “Now promise me that next time you get under a car, you’ll wear your safety glasses!”
My 2009 JK is just starting to show some surface rust at the welds. This video will get me off my rear end and get me started fixing that problem. Great video.
I'm a huge fan of Fluid Film! Watch more videos on it to learn. I had a Ram 1500 that I did a full DIY treatment including into every hole, panel, the tailgate, everywhere. It NEVER rusted. Others of the same year were full of rust bubbles around the wheel wells only 8-9 years later but mine looked showroom new. I just bought a 2020 Rubicon and I'm preparing to give it the same treatment.
Been using fluid film for years. It's natural and contains no petroleum or corrosive ingredients. It works really well on agricultural equipment, anything painted that's sun blistered or faded as well. I even use it on my non-painted JL fenders. Spray on and wipe it off like furniture polish.
Annual application of fluid film on all visible surfaces underneath before the salt-fest; maybe every other year inside a-pillars, frame, etc. I believe it’s a good idea to avoid the urge to drive through automatic car wash during winter, since the detergents and high pressure will erase the Fluid Film. Just use a garden hose underneath when it’s above freezing. In the spring, go to town 🚿 🧼 . In the fall, repeat application. This method is preserving my ‘96 XJ in salty N. Indiana very well.
You guys are beauties. I dont even own a jeep, let alone with rust and still love watchin. Keep it up! I actually like the wrenchin vids. Haters will hate
Living up here in the salt belt hell of Canada, undercoating is a must. I use the fluid film too, and I the spring I'll hit it with a degreaser so i can work easier. I also splurged and had the dealership put a rust control module on. Keep the videos coming Ben. Nice to have a distraction from this Covid crap.
My Jeep is from the East coast I wheeled it when I was young in VA and got it muddy every weekend. I spent the next 7 years getting it all out and the rust.
The Bumble Jeep could be a rolling billboard for Rustoleum products. I think I've used them all. Still painting the outside of Bumble Jeep with Safety Yellow. Good advice for any vehicle. Well done. God bless and stay well.
i live in NE ohio and i can confirm these steps work. i use the disolver, reformer after grinding then fluid film. Coming from the west coast this was a huge thing to learn. lots of crap products out there. dont say corona on your videos
like that idea....for some odd reason I hadn't thought of just applying the FF (or Corrosion Free 3000 I have been using on my newer cars) on top of converter.... If you found ways to treat internal frame areas, I'm interested in hearing what worked for you. I'm squeezing the last life out of my commuter 07 Civic with 357,000 miles on it....rust is the only issue. Rear end of un needs immediate attention.
Thank you so much for posting this video! You explained what to do so well! I live up in Canada and my 2005 tj is getting pretty rusty and I want to try and fix the rust myself and had no idea how to start!
This is a great way to help prevent future rust. Ultimately you will have to take the really bad parts off and either wire wheel them clean or sand blast them. Then you can re-paint and add FF for those harsh winters you guys have up there.
I've had really good luck with Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer Professional for small jobs. I've also used this amazing stuff called Master Coat Permanent Rust Sealer but it's fairly toxic and a pain to work with for small projects. Eastwood has their house branded silver stuff a little cheaper than Master Coat as well. Eastwood also has a great Internal Frame Coating that seeps into cracks and doesn't wash out.
I liked your video. I would recommend painting over the rust reformer with an epoxy paint and then apply the undercoating or possibly a truck bed liner spray as it is tougher than the undercoating. Does the WD40 or Fluid Film soften the undercoating? One thing I would recommend is that if you have a fairly new vehicle and plan on keeping a vehicle for a number of years to have it totally undercoated when you first get it. Especially, if it is used in in harsh environments like the northern states where a lot of salt is used in the winter time. One other thing to rust proof is the brake and fuel lines while your are at it. Nothing worse than getting ready to leave and the brake pedal goes to the floor because of a brake line rusted through.
Really helpful!! I just bought a 2020 Gladiator that had 12K plus miles. I noticed a lot of rust in the undercarriage in certain spots. So I’ll jump on this ASAP while the weathers nice!! 😎🤙🏽🔥
Great video! I've had the CRC 06026 Heavy Duty Corrosion Inhibitor in my Amazon cart for a few months now along with a hundred other things for the Jeep.
Nice video.. rust prevention is on going with a jeep north of the manson-dixie line! I live on it..between the summer salt-air and the salt on the roads during the winter months. I use the Amsoil MP HD it’s similar to the product you are using leaves a waxy residue. I also use the Amsoil mudslinging for the plastic parts keeps them looking fresh.
Great video… tip: to get paint to ‘spray’, it’s significantly thinned down…brush on is a pain, but, you get a real coating that will actually do it’s job, where spraying takes several applications to get the same protection.
Fluid Film gets my vote! Great rig by the way! FF the entire frame, all sides and as much as you can get the inside through the holes. You will have to re-apply it each winter but its an easy job
Thanks for the tips, I will need to check out my Jeep although I fear it may be too late. I live in NY, and off a dirt road, so my 2010 JK is probably a mess under there. Now just need to find a place to help get it done, since I don't have a lift to get under there and clean.
Ben Fluid film is amazing. I ended up buying a 5 gallon bucket and a nice air sprayer. Also Dust sticks but it repels mud for the most part and cleans easy.
Great video! We're in the NorthEast - our 08 JKUR is dying from underbody rust! Before COVID-19, we planned to spend a few days with our Jeep up on a lift at work - removing rust and painting with rust converter paint and then top coating with Rustolium flat black. Massachusetts' salt use in the winter is killing our Jeep!
Our plan is remove rust as much as possible, clean with acetone, paint with Rust Reformer, paint with Rustolium, then rubberized spray undercoating. Hopefully a good plan....
@@AddictedToJeepsCom According to several comments on here, rubberized spray coatings are not recommended because apparently they trap moisture which then leads to rust.
Jaxxy J - I fully agree with you. Since my comment, I did some work on our JK - and changed my mind on using any rubberized coatings. Instead, I wire brushed the rust on the underside, then sprayed with Rustoleum Rust Converter paint, and after 100% dry, covered all painted areas with several coats of Rustoleum Bedliner black spray paint. I did this all on warm days only in the afternoon after all the morning moisture had burned off. So far, it’s looking good, but it’s an ongoing battle!
I live in Colorado where there is next to no moisture. I've used that Rustoleum rust reformer multiple times and I can tell you that doesn't work at all. I've also used the Rustoleum Bedliner which is different from what is shown here. Don't use that. It traps moisture and will rust metal under the paint. When you go to replace you'll find rust everywhere.
I am buying a 2017 jeep jk. It has 22000 miles bit my concern it there is quite a bit of rust on the undercarriage other than that it's it really good shape. How many people look under a vehicle but I did
I have a 2015 jku and man do I have rust. I live in Minnesota and drive a lot during the winters and have wet summers. I have rust to fix forsure! My body is mostly fine but there is spots on the frame and axles are terrible towards the knuckles. I had cheap Chinese knockoff steel flares that had bad fitment and caused some rust from rubbing/awkward contact with the body and salt getting stuck between/moisture
I just had the Jk undercoated with Woolwax its suppose to be better than Fluid Film less smell and a lot more durable. We will see, And you can apply it right over the rust
I definitely need to start in on the preventing rust on my 2016 JKU. Road crews put a ton of salt down when there is ice or snow and due to freezing temperatures, it is over a week or two before I can get a good wash in at a carwash. Thank you for the tips!
Another plus to straying your undercarriage with WD40 is that mud doesn’t like to stick to it so clean up is easier. Spray down before you hit the trail.
Thaks you know i like youre Videos very much. They helping me fixing and preventing my car for damadge and and and. I love youre Videos. They have so much information in it. Im from Poland and it is nice to see what other people do to prefent the car from all kind of things. Me and my gyus are very often offroad because we have awesome tracks and also life in a smal village. So thanks again for your great videos and greetings from Poland. And by the way, we also paint the exhaust with a heat-resistant paint. So your exhaust lives longer and your performance is minimally improved.
Thank you so much for this video! Very helpful! I have a LJ and I had to remove and replace all of the seats due to seat tracking taken over by rust. The body has no rust on the under carriage and light rust spots in the floor area. Once I treat the rust per this video, my next step is to rhino line it myself. Can you suggest a particular rhino line kit? Spray or Roll-on?
Need to work on mine too, unfortunately have to wait for the weather to warm up. Until then, putting my JL hood bumpers (thanks for the idea)and putting my winch on today!!!! Finally!!! Keep the videos coming, I appreciate them!!
I grew up in Texas and now I’m living in California so I have not had to deal with a lot of rust. Just got a WJ that came from Utah to California about 7 years ago and it has a small rust hole in the left rear rocker.
Brother !!!! Awesome and super informative video. Picking up a 2006 TJ this weekend, and Im stressed out about future rust. Its basically rust free right now, and in great condition. It spent its entire life in Georgia, and was well-maintained. But......Its coming to PA. Again, great information here. I will be ordering some of these products through your links. Hopefully, it helps you out.
Hi thank you so much for the fantastic idea how to prevent rust on jeep. I had my Sahara Unlimited 2018 and I noticed some rust. Your video is very helpful. Keep up the good work..
I’ve been using Fluid Film for years here in Northern Michigan. Apply it to our vehicles about every six months. I buy it by the gallon and apply it with an automotive paint sprayer. When needed, I also use the same cleaning and rust converter/reformer that you showed in the video.
I have a bad spot that got away and didn’t even realize how bad it was until to late. 2012 JKU in the drivers side rear wheel tub lip near the fuel line. It seems to be a common JKU rust spot . Keep an eye out for it.
yep salt and dirt piles in there and actually started eating the body under the gas cap down low . around the lic .plate area inside take out the rear tail light to work in there . Im gonna seal up those voids with expand foam after reformer and paint so it dosent get in there again and eat chit up! on my 2012 rubicon 2 dr
I just used the Rust-Oleum rust reformer, paint, and undercoating on my 2004 Subaru Forester and it looks good and hopefully, it'll hold up for a good while. Thanks for the videos!
Up here in canada ihave my jeep sprayed every year with a no drip oil spray by Krown. Ive also got a 2010 f150 with 240000 kms i bought new and krown sprayed every year, and it has zero rust. The largest benifit other than no rust, no seized nuts!
@@vigilantemotors Thank you. Around the doors (bottom). This is my 6th Jeep and never had this problem. I always have them built from the manufacturer. Of course the warranty has expired the minute I paid it off.
@@ginnyleriche4021 of course the warranty expired just at the most perfect time lol. Kidding of course but I feel your pain. 6th? Favorite year/model thus far?
On the drilling rigs we used a product called OSPHO made by The Skybright Company. It's a rust reformer that comes in a jug, its a better value like the WD-40 is. there are other brands too, I found some at Home Depo that was supposed to be for concrete stain removal just look for phosforic acid.
Thanks! I’ve been trying to stay ahead of it in my 2019. My JK frame and axles rusted fast. Just ordered a wire brush for my drill. Gonna clean up my ugly spots from last winter.
Great video I like when you don’t edit the mistakes it’s actually more fun that way. 😂. I can speak for the undercoating and rust reform. They work amazing!
You can't go wrong with fluid film, that's the shit right there i used on my 4runner 👍💪
Some of the best stuff you can buy to help protect your ride over the winter months for sure!
I use "Ospho". Very common in the Merchant Marine community. We deal with rust on the regular since we are on steel ships on saltwater. It is a constant battle. Ospho is a rust converter. Available in quart and gallon sizes at any Westmarine or boating supply store.
I'm in the maritime industry also and we use that. We also use a product called enrust. It's a rust converter as well. All you need is just a little flash rust for it to convert to a coating and it works well.
@@bayouboattrash We one more thing the guys call "600". Not sure what it's real name is. But it is a rust encapsulator. So if you are doing a job, needle gunning, sanding, or whatever, and you can't finish that day, you mix this 2 part encapsulator. Kind of like an epoxy. It hardens and turns clear. You can paint over it. But it does not kill rust. It prevents it from forming in the first place when you have to expose bare metal on a project and are worried about exposure to the elements (sea spray or what have you)
I can understand how that would work. I used to like to chip the area free of rust, enrust it to convert the rust after it flashed over, then use a product similar to dimetcote (it's like a two part zinc primer), two part epoxy primer and then top coat. I've always had favorable results working in the Gulf of Mexico like this. Of coarse we did this while we were at the dock.
I am from New England- the homeland of brutal rust. We use Fluid Film on our EMS vehicles. We can keep ambulances and fire trucks rust free for decades by keeping them clean and using Fluid Film to protect them.That stuff is THE BEST preventative measure.
May I ask, if it’s already bad rusts, what would recommend? I live in New England too
@@rileytavares4087 Once the rust is bad, the only thing to do is cut out the bad metal and replace it.
@@tetelestai1919 Roger that! I see some frames for sale online, pieces by pieces -i was wondering if those are the parts? it’s a NH car, seems like they had coated it istead of fixing it
@@rileytavares4087 What make/model vehicle are you dealing with?
@@tetelestai1919 02 wrangler x 4.0 i6, the frames are solid from the inside (the side facing the trans). I got frames still it seems
Love all your videos. Don't worry about not showing wheeling. Your service, maintenance, repair, upgrade videos are always worth watching. Very informative. Keep 'em coming. Thanks
Thank you!
Im not a big fan of wheeling videos unless its demonstrating some technical stuff.
The fluid film is great! A lot of shops will apply it for you, it can be bought in bulk and sprayed through a spray gun. That's much more cost-effective than buying the individual spray tans. I had an off road shop in RI do my '13 4Runner, it was a hundred bucks and they did everything from the floor pans down. They had different wands and nozzles, so they were able to get inside the frame rails as well.
I plan on having mine done every season. It does smell like feet, but the smell wears off in a few days
Before I had the fluid film done, I sanded ieverything down with a wire wheel on a drill, and coated it with two coats of Rust Bullet, with a top coat of Rust-Oleum from a can. I bought it used last year and it had a good amount of surface rust on the frame that I did not like. Being a Toyota, which are notorious for frames rotting out, I wanted to take care of it ASAP.
I don't think the dust sticking to it or the WD-40 is a bad thing, it just adds more of a protective shell, haha. I have a friend with a 98 4Runner that's lived its whole life in Massachusetts, he does the WD-40 coating a few times a year and it looks like brand new underneath.
I would recommend against that rubberized undercoating stuff though, all that does is trap moisture and what not underneath it. You may have more rust forming again and you won't realize it till that stuff flakes off with the metal.
on my YJ owned since new have no rust (western canada) - key to success is keep
at it, frame I drilled 2 bottom holes per frame rail about 5in pre and post skid plate, on my 04 LJ did same except I filled each rail with evapo-rust first (about 1.5L a rail- non flamable - non corrosive - environment friendly rust converter) and drove around with it in the rails for couple weeks then drilled it like YJ, rinsed out good and eastwood internal frame coated them ... on LJ also drilled rear most frame crossmember and sand ran out of it like an hour glass :)
Fluid film is great stuff. I use it on my Jeep, Waverunner, cast iron power tools etc. Lowes sells it for $9/ can. (Takes 1.5 cans for the jeep) Amazon sells it in 3 packs for a discount
I buy fluid film by the gallon, about $40-$45. I live in Pa near Lake Erie so we get tons of snow, ice and salt. I spray my vehicles end of every summer.
I bought my 86 CJ7 Renegade brand new off the lot. Within three years it was starting to rust on the quarter panels. I washed that vehicle every week and garaged it. I’m hoping my aluminum body JL last longer.
Living in Canada’s interior, the first thing I do is clean the frame and undercoat it. Works a treat
Krown rust for me
Fluid Film user in northern Canada. Yes you need to reapply every fall but my frame and axles look damn near new come spring. Project Farm even crowned it the best.
I bought an '03 TJ last fall. The frame and body are very solid, but the first thing I did was address some surface rust issues (frame, floor pans, etc.) Very pleased to find out I used EXACTLY the same products, and the same process as you did. I really enjoy your channel, and especially Cassie's channel, because I'm a TJ guy!
I love your videos. I live in NW Indiana and I do allot of frame repairs. Been a auto technician for over 20 years. I would never use rubberized undercoat on any of my customers vehicles as it traps moisture. Also it's always a good idea to clean inside the frame after wheelin and eastwood makes a cool product called internal frame anti-rust for inside the frame rails kills the rust from the inside
. Keep the videos coming.
What do you recommend besides undercoating then?
@@jorgen5501 he's right about undercoating if you think there might be any traces of rust left. In that case if you got to bare metal I'd use some rust converter, throw a light coat of paint on it then a bunch of fluid film over it.
If you're doing a proper repair and have all clean metal then rubberized undercoating is the best product to use, all the well rust protected oem cars use it, but quite obviously oem's apply it on brand new metal with no chance of rust, hence why they have better results than people spraying their used vehicles.
The best thing about rubberized undercoating is that it seals the metal really well which makes it prevent moisture and salt from contacting the actual metal really well the impact resistance is also really good so it doesn't chip off, however it's sealing capabilities is also the worst thing about it because if any rust or moisture is trapped underneath you're done for.
It's not a joke I personnaly fixed fist sized rust holes in cars that at first glance only had a 1/4in spec of rust, but after chipping the undercoating off there was a big hole.
I do exactly that but a little more... Perhaps a few more... I wash out all inner frames with a special hose I made to go into the frame holes and rinse out till its all cleared... then, after all exposed metal frame is treated and covered I treat the inside frames with WD 40's special long lasting rust neutralizer formula with another special hose, sprayer and nozzle that can get into and coat the inside... I also apply it to any exposed holes that were drilled out either from factory or bolt on applications then also the insides where my drain plugs are located and where salt from wet boots can collect on the carpet and floor pans... I would never ever use undercoating especially if it was done on humid days no matter how hot it was outside as it traps in moisture... keep it clean, keep it shielded and keep it visually seen... can't see rust under that under coating till it bubbles.. Im an RV Tech/ jeep owner/ mechanic/ auto body tech taught in both europe and Our good old USA as An Army Brat and somehow living up here in PA dealing with road salt... I perfected my method for this side of the USA and just need to share... oh, it also helps when beach fishing on the East coast... if you do these things I explained, you too will have a jeep everyone else keeps wanting to buy from you... and no, I won't sell her... lol
Thanks a ton for this. I have a solid condition xj and I wanna keep it that way. Not many places around Chicagoland that care to help me with that without charging upwards of 700$.
$700? Costs about 12 a can for FF and at most you will need 2 cans and an hour on the weekend.
Rust will eventually disappear by itself though.......... sadly it will take whatever its attached to with it ;)
Hi, thanks for the video. Another tip if you don't daily drive your 4x4 , don't park in gravel or grass. Humidity rises and will affect the whole underbody and frame.
Yes, so true! My brother’s car rusted out prematurely because of years being parked on gravel driveway.
i just did this the past 2 weeks on my JK, very time consuming but we are in the perfect time for it. Made my jeep look brand new even though it’s not that old
I used Eastwood Internal Frame Coating for my TJ frame. I from Maine, so road salt is used very heavily.
You have to do this, or the rest of this process will not protect the frame from coming apart.
I have used that Rust-Oleum rust reformer on my old tj a few times it works really well. I just make sure I let it sit for a day or two and then use some kind of top coat.
I love rustoleum and fluid film. I use por15 on my jeep for the really bad areas. Had great luck with it.
I use cosmoline spray on my Jeep where I can easily spray it. Fluid Film for hard to reach areas. Cosmoline doesn't spray off nearly as easy, and doesn't attract dirt like Fluid Film does. Also, I've heard that the rubberized undercoating will allow water to get under it if there is any scratch or nick in it, and accelerate rust.
My JT got the Fluid Film its first couple of days on the road. It still looks new underneath even after I'd driven through flooded areas many times here in Houston. When I traded in my JK Rubicon the dealership wanted to know how my 2012 was still in excellent condition. Top dollar trade!$$$$
Ah fluid film, good stuff! We use it on our helicopters in the coast guard. Mainly on hardware, keeps moisture and salt off of the attachment hardware.
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@@JKGearandGadgets Yessir! Were you cg?
Not Getting Burned out on videos like this. Keep them coming keep sharing knowledge!
Thank you!
I would use fluid film all day any day of the week over that spray on undercoating !!
Yup my 16 looks new underneath because of fluid film. Worth every hard earned penny.
Right on 👍
My frame is like new because I use fluid film from november-march up here in the north east. I live in Rhode Island. The stuff works.
I do power wash in spring and check underneath if there are any surface spots I touch up with vht chassis paint works awesome for me.
To prevent rust move to Arizona, Ha Ha.
Very true!
We are saying goodbye to Indiana and moving to AZ lol 🤙🏼
JK Gear and Gadgets luckily I’m in Florida my ‘95 as I’ve been told is one of the cleanest my mechanic has ever seen!
... hi. Jason from Michigan here... 😭
Great video! Might I suggest to everyone, safety first! Always invest in a great pair of safety glasses and possibly a good mask. When working in tight quarters ~ like under your Jeep~ overspray goes everywhere. 👍🏻
So so true!! Once I was waiting for an eye exam and I overheard the ophthalmologist with a patient in the next room who was a car mechanic that had gotten a metal fragment in his eye. The guy was yelling in fear as the doc told him to stay very still while using a magnet to extract the metal. Then I heard the doc tell him that luckily it was a type of metal that removed easily with the magnet otherwise he would have had to attempt to pick it out of his eyeball with tweezers or possibly perform surgery. The final thing he told the mechanic was “Now promise me that next time you get under a car, you’ll wear your safety glasses!”
My 2009 JK is just starting to show some surface rust at the welds. This video will get me off my rear end and get me started fixing that problem. Great video.
I'm a huge fan of Fluid Film! Watch more videos on it to learn. I had a Ram 1500 that I did a full DIY treatment including into every hole, panel, the tailgate, everywhere. It NEVER rusted. Others of the same year were full of rust bubbles around the wheel wells only 8-9 years later but mine looked showroom new. I just bought a 2020 Rubicon and I'm preparing to give it the same treatment.
Been using fluid film for years. It's natural and contains no petroleum or corrosive ingredients. It works really well on agricultural equipment, anything painted that's sun blistered or faded as well. I even use it on my non-painted JL fenders. Spray on and wipe it off like furniture polish.
Annual application of fluid film on all visible surfaces underneath before the salt-fest; maybe every other year inside a-pillars, frame, etc. I believe it’s a good idea to avoid the urge to drive through automatic car wash during winter, since the detergents and high pressure will erase the Fluid Film. Just use a garden hose underneath when it’s above freezing.
In the spring, go to town 🚿 🧼 . In the fall, repeat application.
This method is preserving my ‘96 XJ in salty N. Indiana very well.
You guys are beauties. I dont even own a jeep, let alone with rust and still love watchin. Keep it up! I actually like the wrenchin vids. Haters will hate
I have been using fluid film on my tj for 3ish years. It works great on control arm joints, rod ends etc as well.
Living up here in the salt belt hell of Canada, undercoating is a must. I use the fluid film too, and I the spring I'll hit it with a degreaser so i can work easier. I also splurged and had the dealership put a rust control module on. Keep the videos coming Ben. Nice to have a distraction from this Covid crap.
My Jeep is from the East coast I wheeled it when I was young in VA and got it muddy every weekend. I spent the next 7 years getting it all out and the rust.
The Bumble Jeep could be a rolling billboard for Rustoleum products. I think I've used them all. Still painting the outside of Bumble Jeep with Safety Yellow.
Good advice for any vehicle. Well done. God bless and stay well.
i live in NE ohio and i can confirm these steps work. i use the disolver, reformer after grinding then fluid film. Coming from the west coast this was a huge thing to learn. lots of crap products out there. dont say corona on your videos
like that idea....for some odd reason I hadn't thought of just applying the FF (or Corrosion Free 3000 I have been using on my newer cars) on top of converter.... If you found ways to treat internal frame areas, I'm interested in hearing what worked for you. I'm squeezing the last life out of my commuter 07 Civic with 357,000 miles on it....rust is the only issue. Rear end of un needs immediate attention.
Good content for us Canadians
Thank you so much for posting this video! You explained what to do so well! I live up in Canada and my 2005 tj is getting pretty rusty and I want to try and fix the rust myself and had no idea how to start!
This is a great way to help prevent future rust. Ultimately you will have to take the really bad parts off and either wire wheel them clean or sand blast them. Then you can re-paint and add FF for those harsh winters you guys have up there.
Never get burnt out on your videos man!!!
I’ve made it a habit about to spray paint my frame once a year. Haven’t had any rust yet. (Knock on wood)
I've had really good luck with Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer Professional for small jobs. I've also used this amazing stuff called Master Coat Permanent Rust Sealer but it's fairly toxic and a pain to work with for small projects. Eastwood has their house branded silver stuff a little cheaper than Master Coat as well. Eastwood also has a great Internal Frame Coating that seeps into cracks and doesn't wash out.
This is the best channel of its kind on YT! Thanks!
Thank you for your support!
I liked your video. I would recommend painting over the rust reformer with an epoxy paint and then apply the undercoating or possibly a truck bed liner spray as it is tougher than the undercoating. Does the WD40 or Fluid Film soften the undercoating? One thing I would recommend is that if you have a fairly new vehicle and plan on keeping a vehicle for a number of years to have it totally undercoated when you first get it. Especially, if it is used in in harsh environments like the northern states where a lot of salt is used in the winter time. One other thing to rust proof is the brake and fuel lines while your are at it. Nothing worse than getting ready to leave and the brake pedal goes to the floor because of a brake line rusted through.
Buy Fluid film in the gallon can and a sprayer, way less expensive. Undercoating will trap salt once it gets a nick in it from rocks........
Not getting old watching Jeep videos. Regular television and video services seriously lack Jeep and 4x4 content.
I've been using the Rust Reformer for a few years now. I like it a lot.
Oh man FLUID FILM! that's the stuff right there!
Really helpful!! I just bought a 2020 Gladiator that had 12K plus miles. I noticed a lot of rust in the undercarriage in certain spots. So I’ll jump on this ASAP while the weathers nice!! 😎🤙🏽🔥
Great video! I've had the CRC 06026 Heavy Duty Corrosion Inhibitor in my Amazon cart for a few months now along with a hundred other things for the Jeep.
Nice video.. rust prevention is on going with a jeep north of the manson-dixie line! I live on it..between the summer salt-air and the salt on the roads during the winter months. I use the Amsoil MP HD it’s similar to the product you are using leaves a waxy residue. I also use the Amsoil mudslinging for the plastic parts keeps them looking fresh.
Great video… tip: to get paint to ‘spray’, it’s significantly thinned down…brush on is a pain, but, you get a real coating that will actually do it’s job, where spraying takes several applications to get the same protection.
I've been using fluid film all over my tj for years. Other than building up alot of dirt sand and grime, it works great
what would be the best treatement for my new Gladiator, 2023
Fluid Film gets my vote! Great rig by the way! FF the entire frame, all sides and as much as you can get the inside through the holes. You will have to re-apply it each winter but its an easy job
Great video. Rust is just one of those things that go with jeeps and wheelin.
Thanks for the tips, I will need to check out my Jeep although I fear it may be too late. I live in NY, and off a dirt road, so my 2010 JK is probably a mess under there. Now just need to find a place to help get it done, since I don't have a lift to get under there and clean.
Ben Fluid film is amazing. I ended up buying a 5 gallon bucket and a nice air sprayer. Also Dust sticks but it repels mud for the most part and cleans easy.
Great video! We're in the NorthEast - our 08 JKUR is dying from underbody rust! Before COVID-19, we planned to spend a few days with our Jeep up on a lift at work - removing rust and painting with rust converter paint and then top coating with Rustolium flat black. Massachusetts' salt use in the winter is killing our Jeep!
Our plan is remove rust as much as possible, clean with acetone, paint with Rust Reformer, paint with Rustolium, then rubberized spray undercoating. Hopefully a good plan....
@@AddictedToJeepsCom According to several comments on here, rubberized spray coatings are not recommended because apparently they trap moisture which then leads to rust.
Jaxxy J - I fully agree with you. Since my comment, I did some work on our JK - and changed my mind on using any rubberized coatings. Instead, I wire brushed the rust on the underside, then sprayed with Rustoleum Rust Converter paint, and after 100% dry, covered all painted areas with several coats of Rustoleum Bedliner black spray paint. I did this all on warm days only in the afternoon after all the morning moisture had burned off. So far, it’s looking good, but it’s an ongoing battle!
Fluids fill is great to put behind your inner finders, place like between your gas tank and the body, many really good uses for i
I live in Colorado where there is next to no moisture. I've used that Rustoleum rust reformer multiple times and I can tell you that doesn't work at all. I've also used the Rustoleum Bedliner which is different from what is shown here. Don't use that. It traps moisture and will rust metal under the paint. When you go to replace you'll find rust everywhere.
These videos are informative, keep them coming. As an auto body man your putting out correct information. 👍
I am buying a 2017 jeep jk. It has 22000 miles bit my concern it there is quite a bit of rust on the undercarriage other than that it's it really good shape. How many people look under a vehicle but I did
I have a 2015 jku and man do I have rust. I live in Minnesota and drive a lot during the winters and have wet summers. I have rust to fix forsure! My body is mostly fine but there is spots on the frame and axles are terrible towards the knuckles. I had cheap Chinese knockoff steel flares that had bad fitment and caused some rust from rubbing/awkward contact with the body and salt getting stuck between/moisture
You the best!!! Definitely couldn’t have thrown the new axle under and ignored the rust.
This video came in clutch, I am having my Dana Turdy trussed and gusseted tomorrow but I gotta clean it and remove all the paint. It is rusty as hell!
Try crown for inside the frame, comes with a nice tube sprayer
Nice work! I have some rust to fix on my 99 XJ
I just had the Jk undercoated with Woolwax its suppose to be better than Fluid Film less smell and a lot more durable. We will see, And you can apply it right over the rust
I definitely need to start in on the preventing rust on my 2016 JKU. Road crews put a ton of salt down when there is ice or snow and due to freezing temperatures, it is over a week or two before I can get a good wash in at a carwash. Thank you for the tips!
I recently used that undercoating on my jeep as well. it works great but if you make a mess its a pain to fix.
Thanks for the tips.
I park on a sprinkler, seems to do good on the mud.
Another plus to straying your undercarriage with WD40 is that mud doesn’t like to stick to it so clean up is easier. Spray down before you hit the trail.
I need to do this to my Jeep.
Great video!
Thaks you know i like youre Videos very much. They helping me fixing and preventing my car for damadge and and and. I love youre Videos. They have so much information in it. Im from Poland and it is nice to see what other people do to prefent the car from all kind of things.
Me and my gyus are very often offroad because we have awesome tracks and also life in a smal village.
So thanks again for your great videos and greetings from Poland.
And by the way, we also paint the exhaust with a heat-resistant paint. So your exhaust lives longer and your performance is minimally improved.
I seen the for sale sign in front of your house on one of your videos.
I do like doing work on my jeep tj like you just performed. Good job.
There's a 2 in 1 Rostellum rust reformer I used. So far so good.
Thank you! I needed to see this right now. Been putting off the rust and don't wanna spent a bunch of money at a shop.
Thank you so much for this video! Very helpful! I have a LJ and I had to remove and replace all of the seats due to seat tracking taken over by rust. The body has no rust on the under carriage and light rust spots in the floor area. Once I treat the rust per this video, my next step is to rhino line it myself. Can you suggest a particular rhino line kit? Spray or Roll-on?
Just found your channel and am so happy! Picked up an 09 JK recently and it has some rust underneath. Need to get on prevention. Thank you!
Need to work on mine too, unfortunately have to wait for the weather to warm up. Until then, putting my JL hood bumpers (thanks for the idea)and putting my winch on today!!!! Finally!!! Keep the videos coming, I appreciate them!!
I grew up in Texas and now I’m living in California so I have not had to deal with a lot of rust. Just got a WJ that came from Utah to California about 7 years ago and it has a small rust hole in the left rear rocker.
Brother !!!! Awesome and super informative video. Picking up a 2006 TJ this weekend, and Im stressed out about future rust. Its basically rust free right now, and in great condition. It spent its entire life in Georgia, and was well-maintained. But......Its coming to PA. Again, great information here. I will be ordering some of these products through your links. Hopefully, it helps you out.
Hi thank you so much for the fantastic idea how to prevent rust on jeep. I had my Sahara Unlimited 2018 and I noticed some rust. Your video is very helpful. Keep up the good work..
I really appreciate this kind of video. Not exciting but it's very important info.
I’ve been using Fluid Film for years here in Northern Michigan. Apply it to our vehicles about every six months. I buy it by the gallon and apply it with an automotive paint sprayer. When needed, I also use the same cleaning and rust converter/reformer that you showed in the video.
Thanks for the great tips Ben.Rust is always an ongoing battle especially with older Jeep's.
I love learning something new everyday. Thanks Ben.
Always do a fresh undercoat before winter in PA. It definitely helps.
Hell yah I love fluid film worth every penny
I have a bad spot that got away and didn’t even realize how bad it was until to late. 2012 JKU in the drivers side rear wheel tub lip near the fuel line.
It seems to be a common JKU rust spot . Keep an eye out for it.
yep salt and dirt piles in there and actually started eating the body under the gas cap down low . around the lic .plate area inside take out the rear tail light to work in there . Im gonna seal up those voids with expand foam after reformer and paint so it dosent get in there again and eat chit up! on my 2012 rubicon 2 dr
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I just used the Rust-Oleum rust reformer, paint, and undercoating on my 2004 Subaru Forester and it looks good and hopefully, it'll hold up for a good while. Thanks for the videos!
Up here in canada ihave my jeep sprayed every year with a no drip oil spray by Krown. Ive also got a 2010 f150 with 240000 kms i bought new and krown sprayed every year, and it has zero rust. The largest benifit other than no rust, no seized nuts!
I have a 2018 Rubicon and am noticing corrosion which I have read is a problem with the JL wranglers. Do you have any advice?
Where are you seeing the corrosion?
@@vigilantemotors Thank you. Around the doors (bottom). This is my 6th Jeep and never had this problem. I always have them built from the manufacturer. Of course the warranty has expired the minute I paid it off.
@@ginnyleriche4021 of course the warranty expired just at the most perfect time lol. Kidding of course but I feel your pain. 6th? Favorite year/model thus far?
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Good video and dont worry about how things are going, we all want to go out and drive our jeeps but right now is not the time, keep up the videos
On the drilling rigs we used a product called OSPHO made by The Skybright Company. It's a rust reformer that comes in a jug, its a better value like the WD-40 is. there are other brands too, I found some at Home Depo that was supposed to be for concrete stain removal just look for phosforic acid.
OSPHO looks to work better than that as well, it isn't paint based, it does a chemical reaction with the iron oxide (rust)and creates Iron Phosphate.
Great video here in the northeast we have salt city in the Winter
Thanks! I’ve been trying to stay ahead of it in my 2019. My JK frame and axles rusted fast. Just ordered a wire brush for my drill. Gonna clean up my ugly spots from last winter.
Used to not be a problem here in WV but they have started using a new Road Treament for winter that is horrible on people’s cars
Great video
I like when you don’t edit the mistakes it’s actually more fun that way. 😂.
I can speak for the undercoating and rust reform. They work amazing!