The end of the Hornet era will be sad. I like both the legacy and the Super Hornet, but I am partial to the legacy Hornet (that was the aircraft that I worked on when I was in the Navy). While it will be sad when the last one is retired, it's hard to contend with the capabilities of an aircraft like the F-35.
That’s why they are stopping production in 2025. They know they screwed up with the f14. They need the extra funds to more faax when it’s available to navy.
The naval battle happening around the dogfight really makes the video more immersive tbh, kinda like the starting scene of Star Wars III. You should do more videos like this!
The Jedi Starfighters are the F-35C Lightning II and the Clones are flying the F/A-18F Murder Hornets. The Clone fighters were massive and 2 seater interceptor bombers. So closer to F-4J Phantoms or F-14s but I digress The CIS is rocking the MIG-29s fast, cheap, swarm style fighters that have exceptional handling and AWACS style networking. (Droid hive minds)
Finally a over the water air battle. Could you do one BVR with a Chinese J-20 and a F-35C naval variant to simulate a engagement over the straits of Taiwan with a Chinese shore based or future Chinese naval stealth like the J-31 against the Naval F-35C. Thanks
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In terms of looks, I'm an F/A-18C kind of guy. The more flowing lines look a little bitter, especially on the wing root extensions. That said, I find some visual aspects of the F/A-18E to be quite nice also. The trapazoidal intakes (or whatever shape that is) where you can clearly see the S-ducting for lower observability are pretty cool. I like the angles and edges design language a lot of things like the F-22 and some parts of the Super Hornet, and I do love a bit of "form follows fuction" engineering too. That said, in a contest of looks between the Hornets, for me it's the F/A-18C or go home in 2nd place.
@@HuyV That's cool and all, but Flankers aren't F/A-18s, and the specific question was which F/A-18, Legacy Hornet or Super Hornet, do people prefer? I prefer the Legacy Hornet. If we're just going for a sort of favorite looking fighter jet, I'd have to go with the F9F Panther or the F-4 Phantom probably.
I agree. Not a fan of the Super's large LEXs compared to the Hornet's. The cockpit on the E looks too small for the plane, but the two-seat F is where the Super really shines IMO.
What's interesting to see is that the R-73 seems to be a lot more deadly when it hits compared to the AIM-9X which usually gives you a chance to eject. I think the deadliness of the R-73 is actually described in the FC3 manual iirc
Aesthetic wise, I'm more with the Super Hornet, I like its parallelogram shaped intakes and bigger and rounder (compared to the more sinuous ones on the Legacy Hornet) leading edge extensions
I don't know if you'd wanna be picked up in the middle of a naval fight like that. Oh hey, that ship that's getting pummeled by enemy fire is coming to pick me up.
Since you asked, I think in the single-seat the legacy Hornet is the better looking of the two, but the F gets the family model stamp of approval. As always, great vid!
@@elijahprasad7884 But Trump will be in Putin's team 🤣 Btw. with capable pilots, both the F-22 and the F-35 will eat the F-18 and the F-16 as breakfast. Hell, even the Eurofighter and the Rafale seem to be superior to the Super Bug (according to a recent evaluation, wherd the F-35A won against Rafale, EF and F18).
Great fight! That Flanker is a big girl. Surprised it did as well as it did but GS was at the stick...I think the Legacy Hornet is a bit better looking but I'd rather go to battle in a Super Hornet.
If I'm picking 100% on looks, I'm picking the Legacy over the Super Hornet. It's the sleeker air intakes. Also, it never gets old watching HOB missiles like the 9X get kills while going sideways. :D
I love how this is in the middle of a beautiful day- with a rain storm at the deck, and a US and Russian fleet presumably, throwing missiles and anti missiles and cannon fire everywhere LOL I love the absolute chaos! And GS's handling the Naval version of the flanker!/ Here's wondering what this massive battle with GS dogfighting, would look like in a Cat 5 hurricane at night time while the fleets are duking it out below All weather interceptors, right? Lol
Evens up the score 2 - 2 "Ok that's it for today!" :P . Great video! I love how you show in your voice and your temperament when it's a hard kill. So when you say "I had to work hard for that kill", you can, as a viewer, really feel that! Loves these :)
This formula is defiantly the best, but have you thought of trying 2v2s or 3v3s? It'd be real interesting for you to make it as close to a real engagement as possible.
In terms of looks, the Super Hornet has my heart. Also, i remmeber reading that the Legacy Hornet has a slightly better T/W ratio when compared to the Super, as well as having 578 rounds of 20mm compared to the Super's 412.. But we cannot deny that Su-33's in that paintjob are equally lovely to the eyes as well! Finally, having this fight against the backdrop of a naval battle, we need more of this please!!!
The naval battle and the wx transition to rain at the deck was a nice touch for immersion. Also, for the love of God, give us Battle of the Canards: A 4-way battle royale between the SU33 Flanker-D, Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale, and JAS39 Gripen. May the best 'nard win. Also from a pure looks perspective I prefer the sleeker leading-edge extensions of the legacy hornet. Supers seem a little too chonky imo.
I like the Super Hornet better because it has better avionics and it can carry a larger payload. You should do more Super Hornet videos from known on. It will be a sad day in aviation history when the Super Hornet flies off into the sunset. But that's life. For every sun up there is a sundown.
Super Hornet has a better presence - definitely makes for more impressive display flights with the Blue Angels given the extra size and almost harkens back to the F-4 Phantom days. Legacy Hornet looks a little cleaner with the thinner strakes and also is aerodynamically cleaner and faster I believe (official top speed Mach 1.8 vs 1.6 for the Super, though I think both are pretty draggy and slow with ordnance).
F/A-18 production won't be stopped if *India* orders some but with this announcement and given the better chances the Rafale M variant has it is very highly unlikely.
I prefer the F/A-18C for single-seat and the F/A-18F for double-seat. The Super Hornet's square-shaped intakes are pretty neat, though I'm not a fan of the larger, curved LERXes.
These are the kind of fights I'd like to see you doing from both sides to see how much the pilot's skill really comes into play. These fights were all so close.
I grew up with legacy Hornets but, I really like the Super just that much more. First thing I noticed about the Super, the first time I saw one in person, was just how big the damn thing is. The air display it put on was far more impressive as well.
Super Bug & Lightning Bug all day. Purely from a beauty competition perspective our problem with the Hornet has always been that next to a Tomcat it looked like a toy, so the Hornet getting a bit beefier is nothing but a plus in our eyes. Like, you can’t get the gravitas of the carrier dorito back, but you can still get presence.
The C & D Hornets look great but the E & F Super Hornets look way better, the new LERX, the square Air intakes, the proportions... The Super Hornet truly competes with the F15JSI, the Gripen E & the F22 Raptor for the best looking Aircraft of all time.
The Super Hornet is possibly the sexiest plane flying right now. It looks the way you’d expect a fighter jet to look. I’d put the SU-27 and the F-16 as it’s equals in the looking cool department.
The legacy hornet was always one of my favorite looking aircraft. I definitely prefer it's slimmer profile to the super hornet's cobra like leading edge root extensions.
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Man U should do more fights where fighting is ongoing it’s kinda more intense 😮😮❤❤❤❤❤❤
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The end of the Hornet era will be sad. I like both the legacy and the Super Hornet, but I am partial to the legacy Hornet (that was the aircraft that I worked on when I was in the Navy). While it will be sad when the last one is retired, it's hard to contend with the capabilities of an aircraft like the F-35.
It won’t get retired too soon tho. Otherwise they would have never made the Block 70/72
It's really not hard to contend against the F-35. The Hornets still does the job and is highly usable.
I doubt it's going anywhere anytime soon. Even if it get's retired by the us, it might be picked up by an ally.
That’s why they are stopping production in 2025. They know they screwed up with the f14. They need the extra funds to more faax when it’s available to navy.
F-35 is the Great White of the sky.
The canards and paint scheme make the SU-33 a sexy beast.
The naval battle happening around the dogfight really makes the video more immersive tbh, kinda like the starting scene of Star Wars III. You should do more videos like this!
The Revenge of the Sith! The best of them all!
The Jedi Starfighters are the F-35C Lightning II and the Clones are flying the F/A-18F Murder Hornets. The Clone fighters were massive and 2 seater interceptor bombers. So closer to F-4J Phantoms or F-14s but I digress
The CIS is rocking the MIG-29s fast, cheap, swarm style fighters that have exceptional handling and AWACS style networking. (Droid hive minds)
GS, the naval battle occurring below your dog fight made it extra tense. Interesting videos as usual. Respect from Korea.
Finally a over the water air battle. Could you do one BVR with a Chinese J-20 and a F-35C naval variant to simulate a engagement over the straits of Taiwan with a Chinese shore based or future Chinese naval stealth like the J-31 against the Naval F-35C. Thanks
I would love to see more su33 fights. Flanker series are the sexiest of jets
F/A-18C Super Hornet? That's odd.
F/A-18E
lol ya thats my bad, fixed it.
"Clouded by the Dark Side of the Force Growling Sidewinder's vision was..."
--- Yoda ---
@@GrowlingSidewinder "those of you with a keen eye will recognize the canards".
Meanwhile 🚨📣⚠️F/A-18E⚠️📣🚨
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Our eyes are keener than Russian canards 🫡💕
Definitely prefer the looks of the super hornet over the legacy hornet.. one of the best looking fighters out there :)
In terms of looks, I'm an F/A-18C kind of guy. The more flowing lines look a little bitter, especially on the wing root extensions. That said, I find some visual aspects of the F/A-18E to be quite nice also. The trapazoidal intakes (or whatever shape that is) where you can clearly see the S-ducting for lower observability are pretty cool. I like the angles and edges design language a lot of things like the F-22 and some parts of the Super Hornet, and I do love a bit of "form follows fuction" engineering too. That said, in a contest of looks between the Hornets, for me it's the F/A-18C or go home in 2nd place.
I honestly like the Flankers the most looks-wise. They have such sleek lines flowing into each other so beautifully
Agreed, old school hornets are sexier.
@@HuyV That's cool and all, but Flankers aren't F/A-18s, and the specific question was which F/A-18, Legacy Hornet or Super Hornet, do people prefer? I prefer the Legacy Hornet. If we're just going for a sort of favorite looking fighter jet, I'd have to go with the F9F Panther or the F-4 Phantom probably.
I agree. Not a fan of the Super's large LEXs compared to the Hornet's. The cockpit on the E looks too small for the plane, but the two-seat F is where the Super really shines IMO.
- Literally falling out of the sky, burning -
"She's not flying so good!"
Yesss. The Hornet and Super Hornet are some of my favorite military aircraft, I love it when they appear on your channel.
What's interesting to see is that the R-73 seems to be a lot more deadly when it hits compared to the AIM-9X which usually gives you a chance to eject. I think the deadliness of the R-73 is actually described in the FC3 manual iirc
Everytime I watch your vids, I almost get the urge to go: "Mom, I wanna buy a $3k PC and get DCS."
Aesthetic wise, I'm more with the Super Hornet, I like its parallelogram shaped intakes and bigger and rounder (compared to the more sinuous ones on the Legacy Hornet) leading edge extensions
I don't know if you'd wanna be picked up in the middle of a naval fight like that. Oh hey, that ship that's getting pummeled by enemy fire is coming to pick me up.
Imagine ejecting into a C-RAM burst
GS: Kills the Super Hornet three times.
Me: Impressive, Very nice. Now lets see you land on the Kusnetsov.
Lol, imagine the guy who crashed the B-2.
Since you asked, I think in the single-seat the legacy Hornet is the better looking of the two, but the F gets the family model stamp of approval. As always, great vid!
The Su-33 is indeed heavier than the Su-27 because the strengthened under carriage for carrier landings
Was really cool having the naval battle going on under the fight.
It’d be good to see it more often.
The guy flying the Super Hornet has some moves
Absolutely loving the varied conditions, weather and even naval battles, much more cinematic!
The Super Hornet seems to me like the Rafale - if you only get to have one multirole airframe for your forces make it either of these.
Super Hornet and Viper are the best multirole dogfighters. Best 1 circle and 2 circle dogfighters on Team Trump's USA🏅🏅🏅
@@elijahprasad7884 But Trump will be in Putin's team 🤣
Btw. with capable pilots, both the F-22 and the F-35 will eat the F-18 and the F-16 as breakfast.
Hell, even the Eurofighter and the Rafale seem to be superior to the Super Bug (according to a recent evaluation, wherd the F-35A won against Rafale, EF and F18).
@@dreaminknight the eurofighter is like a f16 on steroids, according to someone who flew the f16 and the eurofighter
"No one's coming for me in this.."
What a chilling thought to think how many soldiers had this thought, must be terrifying.
*spinning out of control for 15 seconds, on fire, as the computer lists multiple systems failures*
"i think she's done for"
He just wants to make sure that there's absolutely no chance of recovery whatsoever before he ejects
Having the fight over a naval battle was a nice touch.
Damn russian aircraft have the best paintjobs, they always look soo beautiful
Super Hornet is definitely a sexier looking plane than the Legacy Hornet. You’ll have to do a Thunderbird vs Blue Angels dogfight!
A well fought victory for the Su-33
Dude these during a battle in the background add sooooooo much! Do that more, it makes it so much more fun to watch!
Great fight! That Flanker is a big girl. Surprised it did as well as it did but GS was at the stick...I think the Legacy Hornet is a bit better looking but I'd rather go to battle in a Super Hornet.
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Loving the flanker videos arguably my fav aircraft to see you fly especially the 27/35 😁
That Su33 in Su57 camo lookd badass
Loved the full-on naval battle below.
If I'm picking 100% on looks, I'm picking the Legacy over the Super Hornet. It's the sleeker air intakes.
Also, it never gets old watching HOB missiles like the 9X get kills while going sideways. :D
I love how this is in the middle of a beautiful day- with a rain storm at the deck, and a US and Russian fleet presumably, throwing missiles and anti missiles and cannon fire everywhere LOL
I love the absolute chaos!
And GS's handling the Naval version of the flanker!/
Here's wondering what this massive battle with GS dogfighting, would look like in a Cat 5 hurricane at night time while the fleets are duking it out below
All weather interceptors, right? Lol
Having the navy battle going on underneath was super cool man. Hugely cinematic.
This fight was so atmospheric, you should do more set piece dogfights they’re awesome
I love the Su57 coating in an Su33 naval Flanker.
F18F be my favourite, but I can’t deny the cool-factor of a single seat super hornet
Evens up the score 2 - 2 "Ok that's it for today!" :P . Great video! I love how you show in your voice and your temperament when it's a hard kill. So when you say "I had to work hard for that kill", you can, as a viewer, really feel that! Loves these :)
Explain how the F-15 flew with 1 wing on Mini Docs
Although super hornet is amazing i gotta appreciate su-27/30/33/35 being that heavy yet so maneouverable
This formula is defiantly the best, but have you thought of trying 2v2s or 3v3s? It'd be real interesting for you to make it as close to a real engagement as possible.
He did 2vs2 in the past
The latest version of the Super Hornet the F/A-18 Block III . Its a MACHINE !!!
In terms of looks, the Super Hornet has my heart. Also, i remmeber reading that the Legacy Hornet has a slightly better T/W ratio when compared to the Super, as well as having 578 rounds of 20mm compared to the Super's 412..
But we cannot deny that Su-33's in that paintjob are equally lovely to the eyes as well!
Finally, having this fight against the backdrop of a naval battle, we need more of this please!!!
The Super Hornet is one of the sexiest jets out there man
Dogfight request: Mig-19 vs Mig-21 I dont think you have ever made that fight
Su 33 looks sick
I‘d really like you to play out some combat scenarios like this naval battle, could be very interesting to see. Grate video
The naval battle and the wx transition to rain at the deck was a nice touch for immersion. Also, for the love of God, give us Battle of the Canards: A 4-way battle royale between the SU33 Flanker-D, Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale, and JAS39 Gripen. May the best 'nard win.
Also from a pure looks perspective I prefer the sleeker leading-edge extensions of the legacy hornet. Supers seem a little too chonky imo.
Seconded
Wow, that one was really fun with the naval battle going on underneath, too!
I like the Super Hornet better because it has better avionics and it can carry a larger payload.
You should do more Super Hornet videos from known on.
It will be a sad day in aviation history when the Super Hornet flies off into the sunset. But that's life. For every sun up there is a sundown.
Super Hornet has a better presence - definitely makes for more impressive display flights with the Blue Angels given the extra size and almost harkens back to the F-4 Phantom days. Legacy Hornet looks a little cleaner with the thinner strakes and also is aerodynamically cleaner and faster I believe (official top speed Mach 1.8 vs 1.6 for the Super, though I think both are pretty draggy and slow with ordnance).
Super is also Mach 1.8
I love Su-33 Flanker vids, man.
Such a sexy aircraft.
F/A-18 production won't be stopped if *India* orders some but with this announcement and given the better chances the Rafale M variant has it is very highly unlikely.
Super hornet looks mean as hell, I just think it needs some slightly more powerful engines. 🤷♂️
The super hornet is my favourite jet by far but the legacy still gets my love.
I've always liked that "blue" cockpits color the Russian planes are painted with. Nice video 😀
I like the added touch of a battle going on!
I love the Super Hornet. Would love to see it up against the F35
I worked on the F/A 18 Hornet GE404...Love my Hornet! But the Super Hornet is a beauty!!
The CWIS rounds flying around really added to this!
Super looks much better with the rectangular intakes.
I prefer the F/A-18C for single-seat and the F/A-18F for double-seat. The Super Hornet's square-shaped intakes are pretty neat, though I'm not a fan of the larger, curved LERXes.
I’m in love with Super Hornets
That Felon paint scheme on the 33 is 🔥
Production of F/A 18 coming to an end soon...
when it started raining during the second round, that shit went way to hard
I like the look of the smaller Hornet vs Super Hornet. But the renderings of the future replacement FA-XX look amazing.
These are the kind of fights I'd like to see you doing from both sides to see how much the pilot's skill really comes into play. These fights were all so close.
Man U should do more fights where fighting is ongoing it’s kinda more intense 😮😮❤❤❤❤❤❤
The su-30-H and the su-33 as well as the su-35 are amongst the most beautiful birds I’ve ever seen
Just curious, How long does one of these dogfight videos take to make? Keep it up GS!
As someone who already where in his videos two times, up to 1-2 full days.
2:22 was worried that the CIWS round will ricochet and hit you.
4:22 for me Super Hornet hands down, it somehow looks more complete and grown up compared to the legacy Hornet
My 2 favorite fighters, and the sea battle below was quite neat (im a NAVAIR fan)!
So this is the DCS version of BF3's "Going Hunting" mission
I would like to see the f35 vs f18 battle
Okay, I seriously had a dream 2 days ago that I saw F-18 and Su-33 dogfighting
The extra scenery was very cool
I agree about the super hornet looking better. I love that large cobra hood it has.
I grew up with legacy Hornets but, I really like the Super just that much more. First thing I noticed about the Super, the first time I saw one in person, was just how big the damn thing is. The air display it put on was far more impressive as well.
I like the look of the super hornet a little better.
Super Bug & Lightning Bug all day. Purely from a beauty competition perspective our problem with the Hornet has always been that next to a Tomcat it looked like a toy, so the Hornet getting a bit beefier is nothing but a plus in our eyes. Like, you can’t get the gravitas of the carrier dorito back, but you can still get presence.
Aside from the Raptor, the Super Hornet is the best dogfighter. Seeing what the Top Gun pilots here can do with those things is absolutely insane.
I like Star Trek LCARs computer voice in the Su-33. Reminds me of Majel Barrett as the Enterprise Computer.
Cmon Growling absolutely amazing!!
LMAO! He's looking at the sunset, and I'm pulling my nails out as these two clowns are flip-flopping around!
Good to see more Super Hornet stuff.
The C & D Hornets look great but the E & F Super Hornets look way better, the new LERX, the square Air intakes, the proportions...
The Super Hornet truly competes with the F15JSI, the Gripen E & the F22 Raptor for the best looking Aircraft of all time.
1:23 Ivan! I have the high ground!
These fox 2 fights are really thrilling.
The Super Hornet is possibly the sexiest plane flying right now. It looks the way you’d expect a fighter jet to look.
I’d put the SU-27 and the F-16 as it’s equals in the looking cool department.
BVR same jets? Sweet video, always enjoy them man.
I suppose that your round one ejection would be like what Ensign George Gay experienced during the Battle of Midway?
I would like to hear stories of specific spitfire pilots and what they remember aswell as their perspective (on the mini docs channel)
The high ground can be a very fickle thing. Just ask Anakin Skywalker.
The legacy hornet was always one of my favorite looking aircraft. I definitely prefer it's slimmer profile to the super hornet's cobra like leading edge root extensions.
The prototype that preceded the nasalized F/A-18A Hornet was dubbed the Cobra.
Amazing fight, thnx you both!!