What Are The Best BRAVE Arsenal Weapons (Tier List) | Destiny 2 Into The Light
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- Now that all of the BRAVE Arsenal weapons have been released, we decided it was time to sit down and rank them all. How do you think our tier list stacks up?
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The best weapons are the friends we made along the way
That’s right!🗣️🔥
And Hammerhead. 😂
I haven’t had the chance to log on yet, prolly will have two weeks to grind for Lina’s 😢
*throws friend at boss*
@@Filmor3442 🤣 hospital pass...
Imo, blast furnace is the best PVE Pulse rifle. The only thing holding it back? It's a Pulse rifle.
smite of merain is prob the best
Bxr is pretty nice in pve. Demo with incandescent is wonderful
Bxr ?
@@sechan436 that's what halo players call the battle rifle/pulse rifle from 30th anniversary
Gotta exclude grav lance too
As someone with 1500+ hours who doesn’t do pvp or raids that often, most these weapons are amazing to be able to get.
You can solo some raid chests
@brianeckert1532 last wish has the only solo raid chests that gives raid loot if you haven't done the raid before
As somebody who doesn't raid, being able to finally get Forbearance is nice. Shame I can't use my bazillion deepsight harmonizers on it though
You can only hold 1 harmonizer at a time. A bazillion 😂🤦🏻♂️
Why don’t you raid?
@@Sobergamer61yeah but any you haven't claimed remain in ur season pass, and any u didn't claim from previous seasons can still be claimed via a Firefox extension, I have 3 still sitting in my current season pass, and another 3 in last seasons too
@MrSuspicious0 I tried that and I was able to get old stuff I hadn't grabbed like ornaments but I went through all my old seasons and didn't see any harmonizers. Like I didn't even see them in the possible rewards for the seasons, they just weren't there. Any clue as to why?
@@Sobergamer61 It would really suck to be as inefficient as you if you are dead serious about thinking that you can only keep one harmonizer at hand at any given time.
Not so quick note about Luna’s vs Zaoli’s in PvE. As someone with over 6k kills on a max reload Luna’s with heal clip and incandescent and 22k kills on a crafted Zaoli’s bane (don’t really need to say the roll), both have their advantages and disadvantages. For example, when rocking Luna’s, in comparison to Zaoli’s it struggles to easily take care of yellow bars due to its lack of explosive payload, in most of my builds with Luna’s I run something like a recombination mountaintop or Riptide, or incinerator snap or bonk hammer, so I can chunk down yellow bars. Additionally for Zaoli’s, it has higher range due to EP and you don’t need to focus on the reload stat that much (just maybe flared mag well) because you don’t have heal clip. However, I’ve quickly fallen in love with using Luna’s for a few reasons. 1. I dislike Zaoli’s reload animation, 2. I’m a controller player, 3. Heal Clip carries harder than Datto does when player with Jez. Heal Clip is like a panic button, when I run out of resto, or I’ve messed up it activation or I’ve used by healing nade on an ally and I don’t have an sunspots up, it carries. A weapon doesn’t have to be the best in all types of PvE activities. For example, would I use Zaoli’s over Luna in Pantheon? Not a lot of the time, but in add dense sections, absolutely. If you have a crafted Zaoli’s, do you need Luna’s? No, not you don’t. If you have a Zaoli’s, should you play Onslaught till the point of brain rot (looking at you Midnight Coup), to get a godroll Luna’s, no. But if you get a Luna’s quickly or through more relaxed farming, should you use it. Yes. You have the ability to swap weapons in Destiny. No need to be a purist. I am talking from a privileged position as someone who got the godroll on the day it released, but that’s neither here nor there.
Sooo true. Exactly what i think. Why even always use the same crap? It gets boring and mindless. Switching up guns is refreshing.
I also just love demo at home origin trait
I don’t have raid weapons nor do I have the need to look for 6 people to get a chance at that weapon. So in my scenario, lunas Howl seems like a perfect substitute for my Epochal Integration.
Yeah, I still use Epochal cuz that’s the gun that finally persuaded me to get the last two patterns for Zaoli. I mean, it’s a good gun, but it’s just missing that additional thing that makes it amazing. Luna’s hits different and for those who don’t wanna raid, it’s perfect.
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Blast Furnace with Kinetic Tremors and Frenzy is the best pulse rifle in the game for PvE, non-exotic at least. It's almost like an Exotic as is.
frenzy is meh
Firefly is much better
@@MetalOWLD2-lt7io if you're doing strikes and patrols. Frenzy gives you 15% flat damage just for fighting enemies and max reload. You aren't gonna be proccing Firefly in GMs very often.
@@MetalOWLD2-lt7io
Depends, if you can have high uptime on frenzy (like onslaught) its very good
@patrickoakley7890🎉 I mean you'll still proc it a ton in gms, just the explosions arent very strong
One for all is x2 the damage and works with tremors 35% for 10 secs
Thank you cross for mentioning the benevolence sinergy with luna's howl, severely underrated gun for PvE
I've taken a shot every time Cross has said "enhanced perks" the last month, and now I have cirosis of the liver.
Well….you’ll have to give up your first born, your dog and your left testicle to enhance those percs😅
Mountaintop with Auto loading and recombination is a one of a kind roll and can near insta nuke a champion. Def S tier for me.
Replace autoloading with overflow. When we can enhance the perks you can have 3 in the mag for picking up any ammo pack. Nothing lives the equivalent of 4 MT shots unless it's a raid/dungeon/gm boss
@@beretta3902 fair point, currenlty running it with auto loader and recomb like OP said. But that idea might be worth looking into
@@beretta3902 also, enhanced recombination will reach full strength after 8 kills instead of 10
It’s the best damage rotation option in the game (even better than Izzy swaps)
@@di11onm1nkgaming it is not
I don’t know, I love my shiny hung jury that I pulled from the chest and it has Kinetic tremors, firefly and indomitability especially since I’m a returning player from 2017.
The issue is that the scout rifle play style has been kind of power crept into oblivion. You can still sit back and plink away at most high end PVE content, but you can also just nuke everything and save 10 minutes.
@@snottytoe6957thanks man for the insight I actually didn’t know that scouts aren’t what they use to be back in the day. What would you say are the better gun types these days if you don’t mind me asking?
that’s not a good roll plus it’s a scout rifle
@@sirjamjam101 I love it and it’s perfect for how I play personally. That’s what I really like about this game a god roll can be different for us all since we all have different styles of play.
@@John_R_Jackson_III but firefly is better in low teir content where kinetic tremors is useless and and KT is better in high teir where firefly is useless it’s just paradox of a tool that’s just meh in everything
Recluse is practically the best void smg for PvE, it has repulsor brace and a dmg perk, and a fantastic origin perk, there are not a lot of good weapon with those combinations
Forbearance with Demo is crazy, you get full grenade off of 1-2 groups of ads
I got demo wellspring
demo was nerfed this season heavily, instead of 10% on kill it scales off of your grenade recharge duration ie:
fusion nades ~7 kills
Solar nades ~17 kills
Source: Toidi
Anything above legend those ads will just laugh
@@Alckee6904 A lot of people are unaware of this change because DIM just tell you 10%.
@Alckee6904 well that's fuckin dumb.
Couldn't agree more about heal clip. I don't get the hate. Specially since the rework
I've running warlords ruin solo with a heliocentric heal clip incandescent roll and boy, I didn't even noticed I wasn't even on restoration for a while, I was just getting my healing purely from heal clip, I used a sidearm because the scorn shields were a pain, but if it wasn't for that I would've been using my luna's howl.
Yes, before that it was shit, but since the rework it's S-tier
I won't lie I rocked it before rework but that's cause I liked how it paired with worm husk
@@chrisb.2028Heliocentric with Heal Clip and Kill Clip got me a 7th Column in PvP. This thing kicks ass but it’s just all about getting the right roll.
I agree. Luna's with heal clip + incandescent has crazy synergy with solar (especially with the current artifact, its practically a baby sunshot that heals you).
recluse with desperate measures on a void contraverse hold warlock is really good. gives me the happy chemicals in my brain.
While looking at the tier list please remember the way he hyped up the guns in the lower tiers in his other videos 😂😂
The weapons in the lower tiers are still best in class
mountaintop with recombination is the best thing to come out of the brave weapons.
I’ve been using recluse with repulsor brace + desperate measures on a gyrfalcon’s build and really takes that build to the next level. Constant debuff and overshield + devour + even more nades with indomitability + constant x3 desperate measures. I run it with a witherhoard and b&s edge transit and its the perfect ad clear and dps hybrid. I’d put it high than S tier if I could
Recluse is great for lower level content but as soon as I do even a normal 50 run on onslaught you quickly feel the drop off after 10-20 waves
My midnight coup with explosive payload and opening shot has been putting in work on the new maps, definitely s tier for me. Also have a roll with firefly and one for all which has been a ton of fun in pve
Firefly and OFA is my dream roll for Midnight, closest ive gotten is a shiny with Firefly Rampage/Frenzy unfortunately.
STILL goes hard though.
@@MrCurlyHairAndFriendsoh it definitely goes dumb 🤣 excited for enhanceable traits in a few weeks so I can make it even stronger!
I have a roll with those perks and haven’t try it yet… but reading this is making me want to go in PvP and then remember why hate going into those lobbies with sweats who get made when you kill them at 48 kill streak 🤣 (the crown is mine gold medal) best feeling when you get that notice and the teabagging and hate messages
They are both the same rolls that I use 👍
I got one with accurized rounds explosive payload, zen moment, and handling master work. It's so toxic in the crucible. 😎
I actually love my encore/incandescent roll on luna.
I have the heal/incandescent roll as well and I'm honestly using encore more often
Superb content, thank you!
First minute of the video made my heart drop 😂
Can't wait for the new special sidearm to have chain reaction. That thing is gonna be an ad clear monster
I got a god rolled Recluse but I keep coming back to my Funnelweb. I like my Killing Wind/Frenzy roll. It just feels better.
I’ve got a buddy that hasn’t played since forsaken and he was most excited for hung jury. I really like Luna on mnk. Grinded out a 71 range eos/mag howl and got a we ran medal my first game with it. I haven’t gotten a we ran in a long time either.
My dilemma is I never tried Vow so I can’t craft forbearance. BUT I got the god-roll Brave version AND I got the god-roll adept version from Pantheon. Do I enhance both? Or use just one?
I grinded for all these and have different roles. I pulled an old weapon out of the vault a few days ago that I haven't used in a LONG time and it melts. Might want to take time to try those weapons you got stored in the vault but these Brave weapons may be the go-to for Final Shape.
As someone who has completions on Vow Of The Disciple but had never even had a trash roll of Forbearance never mind the god roll… Forbearance is far and away my favourite one and I’m only using Stats For All/Chain Reaction.
It’s incredible.
2:45 how about weapon surges… so if there’s a void surge and you have an ideal Falling Guillotine and Bequest… then Guillotine is close enough that the 25% surge puts it over Bequest and is worth using.
Yea many God Rolls are strong enough that they beat our surge But that’s not the case in this particular example.
Ik I'm a little late but, when they become enhanceable, can you change the 1st and 2nd column perks like if it were an adept?
Recluse with Repulsor Brace and a damage perk is amazing on my void build.
For PvP I’d say the top two are Blast Furnace and Luna’s Howl
For PvE it’s Mountaintop and Edge Transit.
For me Elsie's rifle is great in PvP, especially with keep away and kill clip.
Demo and chain reaction forbearance goes hard on my fallen sunstar warlock build
Good thing you blurred a few of those out so you don’t completely spoil the rankings
Midnight Coup and Elsie's are my favorite right now. I still need a Heal Clip/Incandescent Luna's. My Solar build currently uses Abyss Defiant.
Forbearance is an S tier because as someone who only got to run Vow like 3 times and never got one it is nice that it is available for everyone, no gatekeeping
same, done vow fully like 3 times. I wanna do it more but all my friends just wanna farm the final encounter shit gets boring after the first couple of completions.
I tried a few luna’s howl rolls but man, I just don’t feel like it’s worth it for me. I love zen moment on not forgetten and the extra range on pvp. I actually agree with this tier list.
I don't care what anyone says, the brave forbearance with demo/wellspring is the god roll. Everyone seems to go for a demo or ambitious/chain reaction roll but the sheer utility of demo/wellspring + origin trait means you can ability spam then switch to forbearance for a few groups then you're right back to ability spam.
I like this tier list for the most part. I would probably swap recluse and hung jury though. Unless we get a void artifact. It just didn’t feel great to me
I'm been grinding for guns but the drop rate on the shinny guns are horrible on legend onslaught. Hard to find solid players that can survive wave 48 & 49. Is the completion the only way to get a shinny drop. ?
Quick question, do y’all think that Bungo will remove Bequest’s +10 impact damage? They did it with Matador, so they might do the same here. Obviously sword are niche in their usage outside of Crota, but Bequest crushes all other options aside from Eager Edge, so I’d at least keep a Frenzy plus surrounded roll of Falling just in case.
I've been using midnight coup in pve and PVP so much I still haven't even tried my Luna's howls rolls yet because I had the old ones and I miss the old mag howl and 180 rpm
Heal clip and incandescent. Must be nice. Ive counted 211 lunas drops and ive gotten my pvp rolls. But that one single roll eludes me
I got that roll & deleted it lol it’s okay but I’d rather subsistence
Forbearance demo chain reaction is too good
Only other smg that can roll with repulsor brace and destabilizing rounds. The other one u can no longer get till the next Guardian games...best combo with gyrfalcon hunters
Got a Hammerhead w/ Envious Assasin & Onslaught, i get up to 190 rounds in a clip firing at a rapid fire LMG rate. Add to that volatile rounds on a void build and it melts the map
is there away you could show the god roll traits for them? it would be nice to have this list like this while im farming
It’s hilarious how they made some raid weapons as brave weapons just to have all DLCs be free like a month later…
Yes, but they are only free until Final Shape, the ITL weapons are still available afterwards
@@realfake6669 So if a new player buys final shape they can't even use most of the abilities with prismatic? interesting...
@@thecasualsperspective You can then simply no longer use Stasis or Strang unless you buy the DLCs, Prismatic is an independent new subclass that is not connected to the other two
@@realfake6669 they should just make all the DLCs free or at the very least reduce the price and put it in with final shape
Or better yet have it so when you buy final shape you get all past DLCs
@@SepticEmpireI think the only possible one is lowered price. There’s is no way in hell they are making it all free
The hauberk exotic with repulsed brace and destabilization sounds is absolutely amazing. Constantly invisible, devour is on almost all the time, and adds are taken care of.
I have Elsie's rifle on my hunter with repulsor brace and destabilizing rounds. Don't even need to dodge or throw a smoke bomb to become invisible, now I can just kill ads to proc stylish executioner, thanks to destabilizing rounds. Free overshield is also great.
Destabalising rnds. is redundant on a gyrfalcon hunter. Its fun, but an actual dmg. perk is better by far.
@@88baldur1 I disagree. What if your dodge is charging and volatile rounds has run out? How are you going to become invisible if you can't activate your dodge to be invisible, or stylish executioner because volatile rounds isn't active? Destabilizing rounds is another way to become invisible, saving your dodge to get out of a pinch.
@@infinitedeath1384 well, i always have dodge up by the time I need it, plus all one needs is a void debuffed target to go invisible. If your build is solid, cool downs shouldnt be an issue.
@@88baldur1 Cooldowns are an issue because 100 resilience in pve is pretty much mandatory, and you can't get a high mobility stat roll with a high resilience stat roll on armour, because of how its set up. If you use armourer mod on your ghost, you have a chance of getting high resilience with a high roll in the stats below resilience. If you want a high mobility stat, you either put the mobility mod on your ghost, or say intellect or melee mod on your ghost for high rolls in those, and one of the top 3 stats, mobility, recovery or resilience. So it's quite hard to get 100 mobility and 100 resilience in the same build.
I think the master of arms perk is nerfed in to irrelevance. But the saving grace for recluse for me at least is that unique repulsor brace/frenzy combo. I love repulsor but you always have to give up a damage perk or reload perk to get it. Frenzy serves as both so it's, imo, the natural pairing for repulsor brace.
i love them all. Not the sniper because i dont play them but the rest is great.
Lunas howl is my favorite pve hand cannon right now. Heal clips slaps so hard
Recluse I feel can get bumped up a tier but only if your running a Stylish Executioner/Gyrfalcons build. I have a Repulsor Brace/Surrounded roll for my void PVE build and it does some proper work, especially when paired with Tusk of The Boar but its so dependant on that build that its just not as good for anyone else.
void titans are pretty good with recluse as well, since you get extra grenade gen (and a lot of it) off of overshields. it lets you run offensive bulwark/controlled demolition which is good given that bastion isnt very good rn
@@squib3100 that makes sense, I'm a solar titan myself when I play Titan but don't jump on that character very often so didn't know that
So how is the crafting going to work for these? Should we be hoarding 5 of each to use harms on?
There won’t be crafting for BRAVE weapons but you can enhanced them. How that works however, only until we have more info on TFS will we know these.
They might change that down the line like they did with 30th Anniversary but it’s pointless to hoard them when you can still farm BRAVE after TFS. Only thing you can’t get are the shinies.
Blast Furnace with firefly and kinetic tremors is great.
Forbearance Demo/Wellspring is mental!
So the only roll that forbearance has that's nuts that the crafted one doesn't have is wellspring demo with the orgin trait
Repulsor Brace with Destabilizing Rounds on Recluse is pretty sweet
I have not found Hammerhead to be better than commemoration in any way. What's the roll I should be looking for?
Recluse hits a bit like a wet lettuce, and I always seem to be reloading it where I don't feel I get that with the hero's burden I don't feel that. I'm playing with it at the moment.
I guess we don’t know what enhanced master of arms will be yet. It would be nice if it increased the damage versus just increasing the timer so the perk isn’t considered complete trash.
My Zaouli's has gone from lv76 to lv251 this season. I got a Heal Clip/Incandescent Luna's roll on Monday of this week and I've already got close to 900 kills on it (admittedly those are all from Onslaught so a lot of enemies, but STILL). Zaouli's is amazing, but having Heal Clip is amazinger.
I swear cross loves polarizing the audience at the start😊
Zaouli’s Bane (Harrowed) or crafted with explosive payload incandescent is phenomenal. However, y’all should really try an adept igneous hammer with heal clip, incandescent, adept big ones. I have been using both hand cannons having loads of fun with them. Also why is nobody talking about adhortative? The pulse from this season can be crafted with heal clip, incandescent as well plus the origin perk Nano-Munitions is nice.
Forbearance is worth it for the Demo/Wellspring roll with thr origin trait. Perfect for if the chain reaction nerf is actually substantial and supplies almost instant grenades.
Demo and wellspring were nerfed
Yeah everybody thinking frenzy is good😂 me over here with Kinetic tremors and one for all doing 35% more damage😂😂😂
I don't even like Hand Cannons but damn Midnight Coup feels so good
Hey even tho I kinda got the godroll on the weapons that I wanted they are not gold but you don't need the gold versions right if you want enhanced traits it's any brave weapon right anyone know
I've tried the brave weapons in pvp the other day, and it they all felt like I was tickling other guardians
hung jury has really good base stats for scouts but it just feels bad to use for me no matter what roll i use, but i feel that way with most scout rifles
Edge lord Assassin and Full court great wamage 😁
this would also be my list exept i never got forbearance from the raid really so that for me is also s tier :)
What is the song that plays at 1:20 when he really chooses the ranks?
What about deconstruct on Edge Transit?!? You get ammo back the whole time!
in what situations is midnight coup useful? i like the gun but haven't really seen a need for it.
Pvp unless you want the kinetic tremors with firefly roll
In any situation you could use a kinetic HC I guess. I know plenty that still love to use Fatebringer in PvE
Explo+OfA for high end or Firefly+Frenzy/OfA for everything else
It's simply the top kinetic slot PvE HC and solid in PvP too
Will enhanced perks be on all rolls or just the Goldies?
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@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 sick thanks
Luna howl with Incandescent/heal clip, with an auto loading/vorpal mountain top, and dragons breath is my favorite load out of the entire expansion. My titan is tanky as fuck and puts out mega boss dps while having great add clear.
I actually did want Hung Jury for the fourth time. I love that gun! The vanity plate on my Warlock's sparrow reads WLHUNG
What roll you going for? I've loved this weapon since d1
@@jeffreyhansen1737 I managed to get a shiny with Tremors/Rewind and One for All/Firefly. I have a number of other rolls but Tremors with One for All is my favorite.
@@Michael-ee4uz I'm loving my firefly tremors roll
@@Michael-ee4uza surprisingly gun roll is rewind explosive payload. It’s not the strongest option but it is a nice option because you never need to reload.
Because explosive payload counts as 2 hits you refund 120% of landed shots and unlike previous never reload rolls you also get a damage boost from explosive payload
@thatguyyouhate3743 really can't go wrong with any rolls. The real enemy is my vault 💀
This list is dukie and so is midnight. GL sir.
For the new Forbearance i decided to make it different by having Demo and Wellspring
If I had a midnight with your roll it would be my favorite HC too 😆
Not going to lie Luna's howl with heal clip and incandescent has made it one of my favorite weapons to use use with mantle of battle harmony. Simply because of the extra grenade cooldown (more grenades = more explosions or healing). It hits really hard as well, now I understand the appeal of Zaoli's, it is most definitely on my checklist of crafted weapons to get (Still missing one of the deepsight's), does Zaoli hit like a truck? yes. can it get utility perks that can work for ability builds? yes. However the one thing Zaoli cannot do that Luna's howl can DIRECTLY is heal its user via heal clip and is a better overall weapon for players to chase because it can also refund melee and grenade energy intrinsically and fits into builds better than Zaoli. Both are good, but luna's only edges it out because of the utility and ease of access.
His original top three were unironically the first three I focused for.
Ngl he had me there for a second
Aztecross never disappoints in terms of having opinions that seem completely random
I stg it took me a minute to realize he was in fact trolling at the beginning 😬
Hung jury has some good roll but we have literally had hung jury 3 or 4 different versions in the past few years
I would still put hung jury above recluse from a usability perspective. They nerfed poor recluse so bad (and other smgs in pve tbh)
Foreberance with wellspring+demolition+origin. Easy ability recharge off mobs
So if you played a lot in the recent months like me the only gun worth getting is probably mountaintop and maybe midnight coup. But i still think all of these weapons are really good and a great way for non raiders to get top tier guns.
Endgame or onslaught boss fight wise I feel like Succession, Edge Transit and Falling Guillotine is S-Tier with the exact god rolls I'd say Hammerhead is up there but I'm not a person that uses killing tally or desperate measures to proc damage onto the boss
With recluse in just happy i got one with volatile and destabilizing rounds. Other than that funnelweb is just better.
Mountaintop is the best kinetic gl in the game besides witherhoard but it doesn’t use your exotic slot. Auto loading recombination or frenzy is s tier
If only I could get auto loading/ recombination to drop. I've seen every perk combo except that one. Actually, I rarely see recombination with any other perk. Always overflow, rampage, had like 8 of them. 100 mountain tops man, this is why I prefer crafting...
Slideshot Frenzy ignition Code is the best kinetic in the game
@@kassaken6521 Every god roll I've gotten has been when I've attuned to a different weapon. Attuned for edge transit? God roll luna's randomly drops lol
@danj4842 I'll try your method, cause I honestly think attunement is designed not to drop the God rolls for the weapon you want so you can stay running on that hamster wheel. Now that I think about it, I did get a demo, chain reaction shiny forbearance when trying to get edge transit lol...
@@kassaken6521 yeah I also haven’t gotten a god roll Luna while farming but I have a god roll hung jury, hammerhead, else’s, attunment is garbage they either need to make them craftable or go back to menagerie style of loot.
Why edge transit is so favourited? I personally think it's just a void Cataphract. In some way, both with Envi and BnS, strand would be the better choice, no?
As much as I like Mountaintop, I do find it a little inconsistent. It's good at what it does when it actually happens
is bait and switch getting another nerf come final shape?
How is Edge Transit the best heavy GL if Cataphract still exist??
I think the midnight coup is the second worst right next to the scout rifle. I just hate how the gun feels.
I have yet to even see a blast furnace or midnight coup with KT 😢
Cross scared me in the first part of the video.